Someone employed at 64 - At 60 then I can hope- openmind5050 has me singing Ol man river. That is about a year ago and since then I have been training to rid my voice of the phony Baritone quality - one full lyric basso here. But not singing f's etc all the time yet. Work on the middle and the edges will follow. Nice voices here - Luciano Neroni, Jose Mardonas, Mr Rammey of course, Ezio Pinza ans Shalapin - poor recording for these older Golden age singers unfortunately and Modesti, Siepi.
Откуда эти вольности в тексте? Это не Досифей, а какой-то папа римский, и что это за кабалистический символ вместо Православного Креста?! Не смотря на гениальность Гяурова, русскою оперу должны исполнять русские! (((
@mik1972den Вряд ли Гяуров выбирал костюм Досифею, это всё же вина постановщиков, которые к тому же увлекшись декорациями кажется немного подзабыли о музыке. Ну а на счёт русские не русские, мне кажется что даже Шаляпин бы смотрелся немножко нелепо исполняя оперу скажем на болгарском языке (хотя всё зависит от подготовки). Ну а если до спектакля допускаются певцы которые путают слова а иногда даже и ноты, то это лишнее подтверждение того что для многих постановщиков музыка не важна.
It's best to be a basso cantante if you want to sing the verdi roles. some of the russian and german roles are better suited to basses. but try singing hans sachs if you're a bass... i sang most of the verdi type roles, beethoven 9 and mahler 8 and verdi requiem and considered myself a bass/baritone or basso cantante. as i got older my voice dropped. it's mostly the color that counts unless you can't hit the notes..
That's funny. As I have gotten older my voice has risen. I am more comfortable with high F#s and Gs now, while my low Cs and Ds have become gravelly. Maybe you're still too young? I auditioned for and was cast in my first baritone role when I was 64. I sometimes call this the Domingo effect - you live long enough and you become a baritone.
Type of voices isnt about just the range but rather a tone ,colour of voice. Bryn terfel is typical baritone but with large scale, typical bass- baritone is for example Hans Hotter. Ghiaurov, Ramey , old Italian masters like Siepi they are basso cantante (nobel and lyrical tone) , Burchuladze ,Moll, Tavela they are typicall basses but with profondo skills ( more dark tone, more aliquotes and lower than other basses). But for me it dosent matter , beauty of voice is important not classification.
Many guys wonder if they are a "real" bass. A real bass is a singer who can get someone to pay him for singing a bass part. I posted a bunch of karaoke videos of famous bass arias and songs to help people like you. Try my "Im Tiefen Keller" video. If you can't sing the low Fs you are probably a baritone. If you can't sing the high Fs you probably aren't a baritone.
Agreed. I'm not sure what fach you fall into, but I'm a solid basso cantabile and have been ever since my voice changed. It's a little weird explaining to non-vocalists that I have the "highest true bass voice", though...
Basses are more likely to sing in multiple fachs. For example, women who sing Susanna seldom sing Tosca, and Rigolettos don't sing the Count. But Sam Ramey sings Colline and Mephistofele and Basilio and Sarastro. My resume say "Basso Cantate" but I sing profondo roles like Seneca and Caronte. I sing buffo roles like Bartolo and Geronimo. I sing comprimario roles like Zuniga and Simone. I also do drammatic roles like Fasolt and The Magistrate (Cardillac).
It takes time for a voice to settle into it's true range. For men it's even more difficult, as our voices don't really mature until late 20's-early 30's. The best way to determine whether you're a baritone is to find where you're voice "breaks." Men have two passagios...primo and secundo, depending where your voice switches, you might discover what your voice is telling you it is. See Richard Miller's Securing Baritone, Bass-Baritone, and Bass voices for more info.
Ich frage mich wieso ich an verdi gedacht hab^^ So ein quatsch... Aber ich kenne die russische Oper nicht wirklich... Ich versuche mich seit dem ich das gehört habe ran zu tasten^^ danke
What is a baritone-bass? Is that like a bass-baritone? The man in the yellow shirt is Nicolai Ghiaurov - a bass. Currently Bryn Terfel is the best known bass-baritone. He would not sing this.
There isn't a whole lot of difference however. A bass sings F to F. And a bass-baritone sings about G to G. So most of the time they overlap.
Well you can make whatever pronouncements you like but in opera there are no working bassses who can't sing a high F. I happen to have the Schirmer Operatic Anthology for bass on my desk this afternoon. It has 41 bass arias from about thirty operas. A few of them don't have high Fs but most do or have them elsewhere in the role. There are also a couple high Gs or G flats. There are a couple low Es and one optional low D. A bass without a top F is unemployable.
@winnipoo1 I'm a bass. roughly three octave range: G2-G4 give or take depending how I project. I'm not a professional, that's just my range. My tessitura stops maybe around middle C, though (C4). However, this is not what I sing. It's what I can sing, but in reality, most basses rarely touch, as Agorante said, the low D or E, and the range is always far more than an octave.
What's funny about this is that the tenor (who's a got a very good voice) is probably a spinto, but he sounds sooo much smaller next to the other guys.
please somebody tell me the name of the priest and also the play PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Opera is so fascinating to me. It's literally hearing the soul speak. Vocal styles rise and fall but I believe Opera is singing in it's most pure state.
I heard Burchuladze at the Ekaterinburg Opera House once. His voice was so rich and resonant it rose up through the seat and I felt like I was having my guts massaged, and that was sitting in the back row of the gods.
Burchladze is a very nice guy too. I went on a double date with two Georgian girls who insisted that we go back stage and meet him. They invited him to out for drinks with us. He declined but was very polite and charming.
Thanks for posting this...yes, Khovanschina is a bit of a mess, but what a glorious one. There's some thrilling choral music, a helluva mezzo role, and they all burn up in the end...a great night in the opera house, especially when done with the conviction that these singers evince.
Sure. This is from the Vienna Opera DVD. The easiest way to get it is to sign up for NetFlix. There is a free period. Get this DVD. Watch it and cancel. Or better yet don't cancel. There are a lot of opera DVDs on NetFlix.
Beautiful!
JackYoony 4 months ago
WOW!!! What a passage from 3.08 to 4.10 !!!
What's the name of this opera??
07rabo1 4 months ago
@07rabo1 The name is Khovanshchina :)
bibimir 2 months ago
Someone employed at 64 - At 60 then I can hope- openmind5050 has me singing Ol man river. That is about a year ago and since then I have been training to rid my voice of the phony Baritone quality - one full lyric basso here. But not singing f's etc all the time yet. Work on the middle and the edges will follow. Nice voices here - Luciano Neroni, Jose Mardonas, Mr Rammey of course, Ezio Pinza ans Shalapin - poor recording for these older Golden age singers unfortunately and Modesti, Siepi.
openmind5050 5 months ago
Lol at all the vocal range experts
xOEHLALA 6 months ago
Forgive me if it's a stupid question, but who's the guy in green? He's obviously not a bass, but man, he sings amazing as well!
SinisterSkip 7 months ago
That was amazing
mrboombasticx 9 months ago
The basses are Nicolai Ghiaurov e Paata Burchuladze, but I don't know the tenor althoug the beautiful voice.
calwal2010 1 year ago
@calwal2010 The tenor is YURI MARUSIN
sparafucile2 11 months ago
Dos bajos extraordinarios, pero el tenor es buenísimo !!!!
sparafucile2 1 year ago
who is the tenor ?
sparafucile2 1 year ago
Откуда эти вольности в тексте? Это не Досифей, а какой-то папа римский, и что это за кабалистический символ вместо Православного Креста?! Не смотря на гениальность Гяурова, русскою оперу должны исполнять русские! (((
mik1972den 1 year ago
@mik1972den Вряд ли Гяуров выбирал костюм Досифею, это всё же вина постановщиков, которые к тому же увлекшись декорациями кажется немного подзабыли о музыке. Ну а на счёт русские не русские, мне кажется что даже Шаляпин бы смотрелся немножко нелепо исполняя оперу скажем на болгарском языке (хотя всё зависит от подготовки). Ну а если до спектакля допускаются певцы которые путают слова а иногда даже и ноты, то это лишнее подтверждение того что для многих постановщиков музыка не важна.
TheCantator 1 year ago
@TheCantator Согласен с Вами полностью.
mik1972den 1 year ago
The basses do a good job, but that tenor steals the show!
saintsaens21 1 year ago
Russian opera, my first time here!
starbreez3 1 year ago
It's best to be a basso cantante if you want to sing the verdi roles. some of the russian and german roles are better suited to basses. but try singing hans sachs if you're a bass... i sang most of the verdi type roles, beethoven 9 and mahler 8 and verdi requiem and considered myself a bass/baritone or basso cantante. as i got older my voice dropped. it's mostly the color that counts unless you can't hit the notes..
operacaster 1 year ago
@operacaster
That's funny. As I have gotten older my voice has risen. I am more comfortable with high F#s and Gs now, while my low Cs and Ds have become gravelly. Maybe you're still too young? I auditioned for and was cast in my first baritone role when I was 64. I sometimes call this the Domingo effect - you live long enough and you become a baritone.
Agorante 1 year ago 5
@Agorante same here...
valarangel 1 year ago
Type of voices isnt about just the range but rather a tone ,colour of voice. Bryn terfel is typical baritone but with large scale, typical bass- baritone is for example Hans Hotter. Ghiaurov, Ramey , old Italian masters like Siepi they are basso cantante (nobel and lyrical tone) , Burchuladze ,Moll, Tavela they are typicall basses but with profondo skills ( more dark tone, more aliquotes and lower than other basses). But for me it dosent matter , beauty of voice is important not classification.
sarastro87 1 year ago
I tihnk I'm a mix between baritone and bass. Or is that possible?
imadey0utube 1 year ago
@imadey0utube
Many guys wonder if they are a "real" bass. A real bass is a singer who can get someone to pay him for singing a bass part. I posted a bunch of karaoke videos of famous bass arias and songs to help people like you. Try my "Im Tiefen Keller" video. If you can't sing the low Fs you are probably a baritone. If you can't sing the high Fs you probably aren't a baritone.
Agorante 1 year ago
@Agorante-
Agreed. I'm not sure what fach you fall into, but I'm a solid basso cantabile and have been ever since my voice changed. It's a little weird explaining to non-vocalists that I have the "highest true bass voice", though...
Jpmadore1 1 year ago
@Jpmadore1
Basses are more likely to sing in multiple fachs. For example, women who sing Susanna seldom sing Tosca, and Rigolettos don't sing the Count. But Sam Ramey sings Colline and Mephistofele and Basilio and Sarastro. My resume say "Basso Cantate" but I sing profondo roles like Seneca and Caronte. I sing buffo roles like Bartolo and Geronimo. I sing comprimario roles like Zuniga and Simone. I also do drammatic roles like Fasolt and The Magistrate (Cardillac).
Agorante 1 year ago
@imadey0utube
It takes time for a voice to settle into it's true range. For men it's even more difficult, as our voices don't really mature until late 20's-early 30's. The best way to determine whether you're a baritone is to find where you're voice "breaks." Men have two passagios...primo and secundo, depending where your voice switches, you might discover what your voice is telling you it is. See Richard Miller's Securing Baritone, Bass-Baritone, and Bass voices for more info.
Guyonastage 1 year ago
Das ist "Khowantschina" von russischen Komponisten Modest Mussorgski.
Szene zwischen den Mönch Dosifej (Paata Burchuladze, Bass in Schwarz), Fürsten Golizyn (Tenor) und Khowanskij (Nikolaj Gjaurov).
Genialnyj 2 years ago
Ich frage mich wieso ich an verdi gedacht hab^^ So ein quatsch... Aber ich kenne die russische Oper nicht wirklich... Ich versuche mich seit dem ich das gehört habe ran zu tasten^^ danke
winnipoo1 2 years ago
der golizyn ist Juri Marusin.
hubertus1997 2 years ago
Impressionnant, splendide !!!
Merci Agorante !
Francesca
francesca7564 2 years ago
ist das nicht paata burchuladze, der mit dem kreuz auf der brust?
hackihacki 2 years ago
ich denke ja, ich glaube zu wissen ja^^ Weißt du aus welcher oper das ist? Einer von Verdi vielleicht?
winnipoo1 2 years ago
Wich Opera is this one???
Ernecio06 2 years ago
Is the man with the yellow top a baritone-bass?
INNER7HAPPINESS 2 years ago
What is a baritone-bass? Is that like a bass-baritone? The man in the yellow shirt is Nicolai Ghiaurov - a bass. Currently Bryn Terfel is the best known bass-baritone. He would not sing this.
There isn't a whole lot of difference however. A bass sings F to F. And a bass-baritone sings about G to G. So most of the time they overlap.
Agorante 2 years ago
ok thanks, : ) and yeah bass-baritone is what i meant.... its cool to see and listen
to two basses singing together....
And whats tessitura of the reverend?
I'm really amazed about his timbre
and his potency *---*!!
INNER7HAPPINESS 2 years ago
the reverend is the famous georgian bass Paata Burchuladze
alexandre3494 2 years ago
Thanks man! I allready searched/listened to him, he's great O:!
INNER7HAPPINESS 2 years ago
@Agorante A bass sings about e - e, and a bass - baritone from f -f and a baritone from g - g
winnipoo1 1 year ago
@winnipoo1
Well you can make whatever pronouncements you like but in opera there are no working bassses who can't sing a high F. I happen to have the Schirmer Operatic Anthology for bass on my desk this afternoon. It has 41 bass arias from about thirty operas. A few of them don't have high Fs but most do or have them elsewhere in the role. There are also a couple high Gs or G flats. There are a couple low Es and one optional low D. A bass without a top F is unemployable.
Agorante 1 year ago 4
@winnipoo1 I'm a bass. roughly three octave range: G2-G4 give or take depending how I project. I'm not a professional, that's just my range. My tessitura stops maybe around middle C, though (C4). However, this is not what I sing. It's what I can sing, but in reality, most basses rarely touch, as Agorante said, the low D or E, and the range is always far more than an octave.
Nightschism 1 year ago
Does anybody has lyrics of this part? please!!
MarkBernes 2 years ago
Who is the tenor????
DalilaCarmen 2 years ago
He's the one with the high voice.
Agorante 2 years ago
Nice, haha
RickZwart 2 years ago
I know that he is a guy with a HIGH voice.I was asking about his NAME:))))))A very good tenor he is...
DalilaCarmen 2 years ago
Tenor - Yuri Marusin!
Astinokiko 2 years ago
ROFL!
tantricsurfer 2 years ago
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Astinokiko 2 years ago
What's funny about this is that the tenor (who's a got a very good voice) is probably a spinto, but he sounds sooo much smaller next to the other guys.
leadoffeohippus 2 years ago
Восхитительно! очень красиво!! что за опера, не подскажете?...
VenenVipera 2 years ago
"ХОВАНЩИНА" МУСОРГСКОГО
DalilaCarmen 2 years ago
Wow! The basses are great but the tenor holds his own too. Who is he?
Ochen' Prikrasno! Spasibo!
gyorgy11 2 years ago
thanks for the answer. I have one more question, how did you get this video, I really liked it but I dont know how to get it
FredGuitar89 2 years ago
This is an excerpt from a DVD I rented from NetFlix.
Agorante 2 years ago
please somebody tell me the name of the priest and also the play PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
FredGuitar89 2 years ago
Paata Bucheladze. Khovanshina
Agorante 2 years ago
In a way this scene is unfair to Ghiaurov. He was near the end of his career when this was recorded and Burcheladze was near the beginning of his.
Agorante 2 years ago
the first is Ghiaurov and the best..one of the best!!!
poupounakis 2 years ago
Is this Ghiaurov there?
theodor28uzunov 2 years ago 3
Opera is so fascinating to me. It's literally hearing the soul speak. Vocal styles rise and fall but I believe Opera is singing in it's most pure state.
XxValkyrxX 2 years ago 2
3:15 - 4:10 is concentrated awesome in music form.
MrNietzschesMustache 2 years ago 3
i love that part is amazing
tebiano 2 years ago
I heard Burchuladze at the Ekaterinburg Opera House once. His voice was so rich and resonant it rose up through the seat and I felt like I was having my guts massaged, and that was sitting in the back row of the gods.
sorbino9 3 years ago
Burchladze is a very nice guy too. I went on a double date with two Georgian girls who insisted that we go back stage and meet him. They invited him to out for drinks with us. He declined but was very polite and charming.
Agorante 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this...yes, Khovanschina is a bit of a mess, but what a glorious one. There's some thrilling choral music, a helluva mezzo role, and they all burn up in the end...a great night in the opera house, especially when done with the conviction that these singers evince.
RVP57 3 years ago
Now wait... Khovansky isn't evil. He's a power player, just like everyone else in the opera. Galitsky is a far more malevolent character, IMO.
BorisGodunov 3 years ago
I bow to your expertise.
Agorante 3 years ago
It isn't that strong, apparently since the character's name is Golitsin, not Galitsky (who is a character in Borodin's Prince Igor). Oops. :)
BorisGodunov 3 years ago
Great clip - thank you for posting.
Does the whole video exist?
Imogenn 3 years ago
Sure. This is from the Vienna Opera DVD. The easiest way to get it is to sign up for NetFlix. There is a free period. Get this DVD. Watch it and cancel. Or better yet don't cancel. There are a lot of opera DVDs on NetFlix.
Agorante 3 years ago