@FormulaOneSpy you know a diesel engine doesnt have external ignition; it forces air into the cylinders where the pistons come back up and rise the pressure (from physics you remember that higher pressure=increase in temperature) and the higher temperature ignites the fuel. So the only way to increase the power output of the engine is to use turbo to force as much air in as possible. With gasoline engines there are more variables affecting so naturally aspirated engines are reasonable
It's hard to believe how far smudge pot engines have come over the years. Cummins had an Indy racer in the 50s that had a very good chance of winning the race until it's oil cooler got packed with debris and it failed. Audi had an advantage of fuel economey also, wonder how many mpg it was able to get at racing speed.
Yes "ban" diesels so we can stop advancing in automotive technology, thats the ticket. Just like they banned turbines and rotaries so nobody would even THINK of advancing in non-piston technology, banning diesel will SURELY stop the advancement of alternative fuel technology. We must ban everything but 1950s petrol piston engines. Fuck, might as well ban turbos and superchargers as well. Ban fuel injection as well, carb only! BAN IT ALL I FEAR CHANGE AND TECHNOLGICAL ADVANCEMENT!
@dojOdRiFTeR But, the reason the 787b got banned and all other rotaries is because rotaries have very,very good reliability that petrol or diesel powered race cars can not be matched.
@2t9j0bowler300 Complete BS about the 787B. There was a simple regulation change which was decided in 1989/1990 (just for recap: Mazda's won 1991). This regulation change outlawed majority of the old "C2" category cars - so much for the worldwide conspiracy theory against rotaries.
787B did have weight advantage though in 1991 - its mandated minimum weight was lower than other "C2" cars. Other teams never opposed because the 787B had not been a serious contender during the WSPC season.
@Weezing77 I remember always being told that Diesels weren't as powerful as Petrols. That when it came to sheer force, petrols always came out on top.
I started learning to drive just over a year ago in Citoren C3... but couldn't figure out what the engine was - sounded like a diesel but went like a petrol. I asked my instructor, it was a diesel alright!
@Kw12345ff your brain is crap. The diesels are so quiet that you cant hear the engine once you get passed 100. The sound you hear mostly is the wind noise. But the little wurr in the back round is the drivetrain.
I'm surprised Lemans are allowing diesel in the competition, Audi has been very consistent with it over the past few years. When Mazda put the 26B rotary in their 787B and won, the car was banned after. But then again things are changing, they're talking about bringing in E85 hybrids soon.
@sookster54 787B and/or rotaries were not banned. They were outlawed, but that's only half of the story because so was all Porsche turbo engines and everything else that wasn't naturally aspirated 3.5 litre engine. You see, the change to the ill-fated (that's what caused the downfall of World Sportscar Championship after all) 3.5 L NA engine formula for 1992 season must have been known in mid-1990 because 1991 season was already a transition year with two categories of cars.
After watching this video I think I know one of the reasons that tha diesels are so good at Le Mans...the drivers don't have to deal with the noise of a petrol engine revving it's head off at 12,000rpm for 24 hrs.I'm not sure what the Audi's rev range is bt at times you can hardly hear it at all
this is diesel power ^^ nice to see. I dirve a Audi A4 gasoline car. Think my next car gonna be a diesel :) Sorry my bad english, from sweden dont use it much. have a nice day.
When are you people going to realize that diesel engines are better than gasoline engines? What's really cool about the TDI Clean Diesel Technology from Audi and Volkswagon is that there are very few CO2emissions, better durability, more power, more torque, and better efficiency. I know everyone hates the diesels because they don't make any noise, but still diesel engines when you do hear the noise do sound really good. Like I said: Gas noise >> Diesel noise (except for trucks :lol: )
well, diesels are these days closer to the petrol engines, both of them are verry similar nowadays. alot of the technology used for petrol engines have made their way to diesel engines. a diesel engine won't last too much longer than a petrol engine these days too. but yes, they are the better one in terms of what really matters. and they are better in most ways than a petrol... but i'd STILL go for the petrol engine. for the sound, tuneability, revs, lightness and their simplicity.
@tohtorigyro Yeah that's true. When my van dies I want to get an Audi or Volkswagon that has TDI Clean Diesel Technology in it. You know how bad the economy is right? With a diesel, a lot of money can be saved on fuel and fewer CO2 emissions is good for the enviornment.
yeah, i do admit that. diesel IS the future of internal combustion engines. it is the right tech for the ic engines. albeit a little more expensive to make, and heavier components it still is the more reasonable one, but in motorsports, petrol still is the right one. but... here in finland we've got taxed diesel! meaning that i'f you own a diesel you have to pay fee of aprox. 300-600€. so for some people, diesel is actually too expensive, me included... and i love my bmw 318i -92.
Diesels are a rarity here in America. It seems like our addiction to foreign oil just won't end! With a diesel, we can reduce our dependency on foreign oil and can be one step in repairing our economic crisis.
dammit i hate diesels. they sound like shit. i hope one day someone comes in with a petrol powered engine with the type of factory backing that audi and peugeot have and kicks everyones ass. that would set a lot of things straight again. i have always really liked audi and their cars, but come on..you're gonna destroy racing doing this crap. soon every1 will bring in diesels because of damn audi introducin them in the first place and nobody is gonna show up for races anymore= no money=dead sport
Man i didn't know 2 hundred ought miles per hour looked so slow from the inside of the car! now i appreciate the sense of speed games like forza and gran turismo capture--they don't glamorize it
Man i didn't know 2 hundred ought miles per hour looked so slow from the inside of the car! now i appreciate the sense of speed games like forza and gran turismo capture--they don't glamorize it
200 miles per hour inside anything moving across land does not look slow!! forza and gran turismo DONT capture a sense of speed. gt4 did look quick in a car like this but gt5 prologue is similar to standing still at speeds well above 200 mph.
Diesel vs. petrol regs are so fucked up. 1.5 litres more capacity (than biggest turbocharged petrol allowed) and bigger restrictors.
I admire the teams and the technology, but anyone thinking Audi (and Peugeot) have been successful because of diesel's superiority is a victim of marketing.
ACO should ask themselves how many petrol manufacturers have not joined because of the advantage given to diesels.
Well, yeah. But the thing is, currently they're not making same amount of power, they're making more. Real balance is impossibility.
Basically regulations have made diesel technology superior, which without the help of regulations IS inferior in racing (unless a lot bigger emphasis is put on fuel usage, but thats not how it is now).
Pescarolo was smart enough to contract a 908 HDI for Le Mans 2009 and Kolles does the same with R10's, we will see how much keeps standing of your statement after the race.
How that relates to my statement? Obviously private teams are going to be less capable than factory teams. Audi and Peugeot being the only factory teams might have oversaturated the difference to petrols but it still has little to do with the the actual engine power difference. You'd think ACO should know pretty accurately at least how much in theory the engines are making. Theres just no incentive to equalize things... well if there is such thing as "equality".
bla bla...as much as they have restricted petrol engine they have done the same with the deiel cars by reducing the fuel tank size, forcing the diesel to do more stops taking away their big advantage...there are always two sides of a medal
BTW you fool...Audi has won befor with petrol powered LMP1...yeah we are all marekting victims..
@nagmashot@nagmashot: Fuel tank size and other tweaks (restrictors) were just pathetic attempts at correcting the error that was already made. Diesel still has outright power "advantage", torque "advantage" and mileage "advantage", thanks to the regulations. Especially the torque is important in sportscars racing - its handy in traffic. Actually I even hate the phrase "the torque of the diesels", it's just twin-turbocharging really...
@nagmashot Marketing point of view, Audi's petrol year wins are now somewhat irrelevant.
Something that is really inferior, has been made superior by rules. Indeed, inferior - on a race track. The main problem is that ACO (the organizer of Le Mans) is now dictating what technology has a chance to win.
What comes to road cars, diesel is nice. But these are race cars and they have nothing to do with road cars, despide that the manufacturers' blatant PR claims.
I have to admit I understand Henri's gripes about the Audi whooping his cars' butt, but damn dude, he's a privateer going up against a manufacturer. Henri needs some resources. He tried last year with Peugeot, but that didn't work. I'm sure everyone here knows why so I won't talk about it. Maybe somebody will work with him if he asks but he's not. He's killing me in that regard. the way I look at it as is "If you can't beat them, join them."
to me, if Audi and Peugeot can do it, why can't everyone else instead of complaining that those two have the edge. If they don't like it, change with them.
@ratzinator1 Everyone else, for example Acura or Aston Martin? Acura builds luxury cars and has no diesel road cars models. Neither does Aston Martin and diesel and sportscars doesn't really make a great pair at this time. This wouldn't be an issue at all if diesel had an GENUINE ADVANTAGE, but because it doesn't have. Understand the regulations.
@FormulaOneSpy Not only are the regulations unfair, but I think that they should be banned just because of the way they sound! So much of racing for me is the way that the cars sound, and these diesels just sound like shit! They need to bring back rotary engines, and they need to bring back Group C!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@FormulaOneSpy Not to sound like im trying to "protect" audi and peugeot, don't you think that they have thought out the difference to make it as even as possible, I mean, there are huge differences between diesel and petrol. I may be wrong because im not very in to Le Mans racing, but as i said i think they have thought out the diffrences because they are proffesionals, and you don't get to work with Le Mans engineering if you are on Go-Kart stage.
@FormulaOneSpy I totally agree with you... also because a bigger engine means more weight , so it's quite difficult to balance power and weight to actually have less fuel consumption then the petrol opponents
@FormulaOneSpy Not true really, the Aston Martin DBR1-2 has a 6.0 liter engine, half a liter more displacement than the R10-15 and 908, the diesels protos get a slightly higher turbo boost pressure and restrictor, but have a smaller fuel tank and are required to be 25kg heavier 925kg vs 900kg for petrol cars.
I just think that the overwhelming torque advantage of a diesel is what makes the so effective in endurance racing, the 2011 regulations seem to cure that though.
@HekateMGO The Aston V12 is a naturally aspirated engine. Petrol and diesel and very different kind of technologies, but turbocharging is turbocharging. So, I would say instead "the overwhelming torque advantage of twin-turbocharging". You know how sporty engine a naturally aspirated diesel would be.
I'm not too hopeful about 2011 regs. I'm already waiting 2014-. Some very interesting talk about moving into a new kind philosophy; limits on total energy.
Le mans cars are much more heavy so that's why they are slower than F1 cars. TDI engines are for older citizens...Audi uses tdi in motorsport becouse major market of audi is USA where they don't like diesels. The future is DIESOTTO engine which is sum of advantages of diesel and petrol engines and it has got changeable compression. The further step is Hydrogen
This car is untouchable in GRID for PS3 haha. As soon as I saved 20 mill for it, I raced it in Le Mans once and made back half of what I paid for it haha.
but look at the technology differences in the F1 cars. they redline at 19,000 RMS and the R10's redline at 5,000. before the new cars were made for the 2009 F1 series F1 cars used to cost $7 million PER CAR just to build that doesnt take into consideration all the fuel and tires and spare parts required thats just to buy the car.when it comes to durability though, the R10 wins hands down. id like to see an F1 car do a 24 hr race without breaking down
Jesus christ there is so much bullshit on youtube comments.
An F1 car breaks down right after x races because x races is the minimum required time it has to last! That is the whole point! Haven't you heard "A perfect race car breaks down after it crosses the finish line"?
They do this because then they can extract the maximum amount of performance.
An F1 car with just a little detuning would last 24 hours no problem, and would always EAT any LeMans car.
Beautiful car no doubt about it, but where are the times of the sophisticated enginesound of the Rothmans porsches and superb drivers like stefan bellof, jackie ickx, hans stuck and derek bell????? Those were the days, and i hate the political correct boring circuit of le mans nowadays.
I wish they'd just have all onboard cameras for the next 24 hours of Nürburgring.
The first thing they could do is that the Mulsanne Straight proper is just short of the 2 kilometer mark, and the parts before and after the straight proper aren't really that long.
It is very quiet. Probably quieter than a lot of cars out there today when going flat-out. They had to add in extra shift lights into the cockpit so that they driver could get a better idea of the engine rpm's/shifting times. So by racecar standards, this is pretty much as quiet as it gets, even though you don't normally think of diesel being quiet.
and im a huge fan of ducati's, although if i were to buy one, id be more after a buell myself. although i would still love to see a turbocharged v-twin diesel cruiser hit the market :)
oddley enough, im a vw salesman, so ive driven a TDi or two, and the weak north american market versions to boot :) aside from a little roll out turbo lag, ive been extremely impressed with the new models, and am looking to buy an older one. some simple upgrades using factory parts, and many owners are getting 200hp and 300ftlbs, and still getting over 40mpg combined driving. beats fuel anyday of the week in my book :) i still dont understand the objection of diesel in an endurance race though.
also, modern diesels, when properly designed, are not the black smoke emitting monsters they used to be, by the same token the gasoline cars are not nearly as clean as some think. race cars in general are far more polluting than road cars. Diesel technology is less refined than gas, at present, but a surge in its popularity, both on the road, and in racing is leading to the kinds of progress and refinements that are making it more attractive than gasoline. things change, its the natural state.
i agree but i think that a diesel always mantains a certain character of the past...i hope in a good future for diesels (my father got one and it's good for the long distances) on the road but not in races: the problem is that audi want to make diesel good for high performance cars, R8 v12 tdi it's a proof of that, but personally i don't like it...ok the developement but, please, not on le mans...
Due to strict regulations diesels never really run "rich" these days, but they do make awesome power anyway. The problem with diesels is that you're always running on the most powerful rpm range. Thats why you cant really make a high tuned diesel like you do with a gasolin engine. No one revs engine to 7000rpm on every gear, but in a diesel you dont have to, thats why powerful diesels would never last because people always take the maximum out of them accidentally destroying gears and tires.
It is very easy to get a lot of power out of a standard 1.9 VW diesel, but as power increases but revs dont gearbox is the one that acts as a fuse very quickly as it is stressed so much all the time.
My opinion is that diesel is good. Theres no question diesels are more efficient even when run a lot harder especially with heavy cars like they are today.
In small cars VW currently makes 1.4L gasoline engine with dual charging which looks very promising contender.
also in the event of a crash, alcohol has an invisible flame, and is easier to ignite, where diesel is more like a heavy oil, so its hard to ignite but burns yellow so you can see it. not to mention modern advances in algae diesel are promising a powerful, efficient, carbon neutral fuel both for racing and the world at large for the future. for me, it comes down to if its fast, thats all that matters, and the R10 has proven diesel is fast....faster than the competition actually.
i know advantages and disadvantages about ethanol (many race championship use this fuel btw), it's only an example to explain that different fuels affect too much (in my opinion) to the results of a race...if everyone start in the same condition the winner will be the best driver with the best strategy and not the one that have to stop less times...le mans regulations are balanced for turbo, non-turbo, supercharged, aspirates, normal engines and wankel but everyone of this engines use the same
fuel, in this way they have the same relationship between performance and consumption...i think they have to put a smaller fuel tank for diesels to reduce the advantage of smaller consumption...yes, now diesels are fast but that is not so important in an endurance race: they're really efficient and that is a good thing in an endurance race, but in a normal race i don't think they would win easily...gasoline is always faster if compared to an equal engine powered by diesel
and if you take a look to the technical specs of the R10 you will find some technical solution that a road car can't use (like the high pressure of injectors, more than the 1600 bar of a stock car or the 2.94 bar of turbos when road cars, also tuned cars, used a maximum pressure of 2.0 with gasoline and less than 1.0 in diesel engines (!)) and the big amount of torque (plus than 1100 nm) cause a lot of problems about the design of trasmission components and they have to limit it for reliability
(also the R8 diesel v12 prototype is limited to 500nm 'cause they haven't already found a trasmission strong enough)...so this no so useful for road cars, i think they have to work on bio fuel and hydrogen (i know the problem of these two fuels is the distribution bu only bmw is working on it well)...personally i don't like diesels for a lot of other reason like the vibration, the smell
the sound, the colour of the smoke (full of dark dust that clogs the lungs, bleah) and the way that it put the power down and i don't think that a diesel is so enjoyable like a gasoline sportcar...
first off, let me just say, i totally respect personal opinions, its why i prefer the sound and feel of a big block to a 2.0L import car, but others love them. Im a torque driver, i prefer the feel to a high winding hp engine. but i have to challenge your assertation that the technology in the R10 dosnt apply to a road car. i think youd be hard pressed to find a lemans engine in a road car anywhere in the world. indy racing for instance, runs strait alcohol, and extreme boost pressure as well.
i respect your opinion too, we're just talking ;- )...i'm a "torque driver" too, my bike is't a Ducati, and these bikes are famous for their torque (compared to some japanese brand) but in a car i prefer the bigger range of revs of a gasoline engine to the torque of diesel...torque of these engines is different from the torque of a big block, i don't know if you have ever drove a tdi before (i know that in usa tdi aren't really common but maybe it's only a sterotype of european people)
a road car with a le mans engine? well, i know about a le mans car that have the engine of a road car so it development can improve the production cars: Porsche GT1...exactly the same identical block of the carrera 3.2 (!) with replaced pistons, two turbos and a different exhaust system...Porsche turbo and GT2 are based on the technology of the GT1...many little particulars can be used on road car but in my opinion the R10 is structurally too complex to do the same thing...
diesel in not for motorsport...tdi have too much advantage for the fuel consumption, a victory in an endurance race is obvious with this kind of advantage...they will kill the spirit of this race...no more engines screaming on 10.000 rpm and a smell of combusted gasoline but a continuos bzzzzzzz and a lot of dark smoke from tailpipes...
well..... you still have bike racing for 10k rev limits, and as has already been seen, they are limiting the diesels to keep it competative. remember, people said the same thing about turbochargers when they first became mainstream.
imho these limitations aren't enough, there are too many differences between this two kind of engine...turbo or aspirate no matter if you use the same fuel and if you have balanced rules, but if you use another fuel like ethanol you can see a huge gap of performance or consumption like in this case...i support ethanol in motorsport because it increase the performances ( between 5 and 30 percent) but only if everyone in the race use the same fuel...
see, i would only support ethanol based on its cleaner burning nature. but its actually more harmful to produce on an environmental level, and because of its lower energy density, it would cause either a larger fuel tank to be necessary which is more dangerous in the event of a crash, or would cause more pit stops, slowing the pace of the race. diesel has the opposite effect, its causing smaller fuel tanks to be required, and reduces the need for pit stops.
El futuro son los diesel,se ha conseguido un diesel mas potente que un gasolina,osea con lo que conlleva menos paradas a boxes,pero si,lastima los sonidos.
the r8 chassi has won more races than any other lemans cahssi...ever... so what if the engine is bigger than the petrol ones. The audi r10 is still very fast.
los motores diesel son increibles, pero definitivamente no tiene ningun sonido emocionante, no me gustaria que le mans se silenciara con motores diesel
I went to the 8 hours of Silverstone cuz my dads mate works for peugeot or something - he was furious to see i was wearing a audi sport cap and shirt!
Those Peugeot's sound pretty quiet compared to murcialago gt and boy thats a loud car (the loudest)
but those audis sound so whimpy, its like their gliding on hybrid engines or something, i thought they were gonnna sound like loud lorries/trucks or somethin they are as quiet on tv as they are on the track
The R10 itself is great, but the engine note is really horrible... No matter how much of a fan of modern diesels I am, this is an area they just seem to not be able to shine...
Amazing what a TDI car can do.
govenmentassassin 2 weeks ago
PETROL, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT!!!!!!!!! NO DIESEL!
Helghast470 3 weeks ago
@FormulaOneSpy you know a diesel engine doesnt have external ignition; it forces air into the cylinders where the pistons come back up and rise the pressure (from physics you remember that higher pressure=increase in temperature) and the higher temperature ignites the fuel. So the only way to increase the power output of the engine is to use turbo to force as much air in as possible. With gasoline engines there are more variables affecting so naturally aspirated engines are reasonable
mikidof 3 months ago
This just proves how bad ass the Volkswagon Group is
mattmonster93 3 months ago 2
audi is the best
RealRapAndHiphp 5 months ago
It's hard to believe how far smudge pot engines have come over the years. Cummins had an Indy racer in the 50s that had a very good chance of winning the race until it's oil cooler got packed with debris and it failed. Audi had an advantage of fuel economey also, wonder how many mpg it was able to get at racing speed.
505197 6 months ago
Why dont they drive 24h. taxi? when they dont race?!
MrElgemann 7 months ago
The sound is ugly.
Sylvere13 7 months ago
@Sylvere13
Diesel
dienkonig33 7 months ago
yes, because it's a diesel
lukchy505 8 months ago
sounds very quiet... or is it?
DKRaFiQ 9 months ago
Yes "ban" diesels so we can stop advancing in automotive technology, thats the ticket. Just like they banned turbines and rotaries so nobody would even THINK of advancing in non-piston technology, banning diesel will SURELY stop the advancement of alternative fuel technology. We must ban everything but 1950s petrol piston engines. Fuck, might as well ban turbos and superchargers as well. Ban fuel injection as well, carb only! BAN IT ALL I FEAR CHANGE AND TECHNOLGICAL ADVANCEMENT!
kanaric 10 months ago 30
@kanaric rotary is stupid btw it doesn't stand a chnace in this era y uses too much fuel
dojOdRiFTeR 8 months ago
@dojOdRiFTeR But, the reason the 787b got banned and all other rotaries is because rotaries have very,very good reliability that petrol or diesel powered race cars can not be matched.
parth17870 7 months ago
@parth17870 rotaries are not relibile if something happens to the engine its done for gd
dojOdRiFTeR 7 months ago
@parth17870 The actual reason the 787B was banned was not reliability, but "an unfair weight advantage" because of the wankel rotary engines.
2t9j0bowler300 4 months ago
@2t9j0bowler300 Complete BS about the 787B. There was a simple regulation change which was decided in 1989/1990 (just for recap: Mazda's won 1991). This regulation change outlawed majority of the old "C2" category cars - so much for the worldwide conspiracy theory against rotaries.
787B did have weight advantage though in 1991 - its mandated minimum weight was lower than other "C2" cars. Other teams never opposed because the 787B had not been a serious contender during the WSPC season.
deggis4 3 months ago
@kanaric we should ban you
harshgsxr 1 month ago
race driver grid
worldmusic3 10 months ago 9
Diesel for life dudes, diesel for life.
Weezing77 11 months ago
@Weezing77 I remember always being told that Diesels weren't as powerful as Petrols. That when it came to sheer force, petrols always came out on top.
I started learning to drive just over a year ago in Citoren C3... but couldn't figure out what the engine was - sounded like a diesel but went like a petrol. I asked my instructor, it was a diesel alright!
mastermalpass 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
see my racing on C6R at le mans:
/watch?v=0poS9wNDIl0
jpzhouutube 11 months ago
i dont know about you people but i love the sound of diesel under power... when the turbo kicks in and you can just hear the power...
idk whats wrong with the american hating on diesel... like i dont get it why would u need a v8 to get to the shopping mall...
in my opinion 2 or 3 l TDI is more than enough for daily use + the diesels are more efficient and have more torque in lover revs
4one4me 11 months ago
man soooo boring zzzzzzzzzzzzz
kyberforce 1 year ago
I Would like to see a formula 1 car (2004 season) reach 400 km/h
nicolaz1357 1 year ago 2
Fantastic car.
Concorde1059 1 year ago
Diesel can be effective, but the engine's sound is pure crap.
Kw12345ff 1 year ago
@Kw12345ff your brain is crap. The diesels are so quiet that you cant hear the engine once you get passed 100. The sound you hear mostly is the wind noise. But the little wurr in the back round is the drivetrain.
GT3xM 1 year ago
I hate diesel engines...
SonyCrocket 1 year ago
heavy sound!!
DakotaMCX50 1 year ago
@DakotaMCX50 Disel
TopT432 1 year ago
@DakotaMCX50 Diesel
TopT432 1 year ago
The sound is awful
gusi80 1 year ago
Ive always found it interesting how much negative talk gets thrown at a team when they dominate.Just shows the mindset of the posters.Juvenile.
smoothie6ft3 1 year ago
Those guys' balls are most likely made of lead and granite...
LightBlueMasta 1 year ago
@LightBlueMasta even titanium, like robocop
SonyCrocket 1 year ago
Few things make two hundred MPH looks so clean and graceful. Magic and engineering.
plastik892 1 year ago 3
I'll take the sound of the Audi Turbo Diesel any day over the flatulent sound of the Honda IRL engine.
FrodothePuppet 1 year ago
diesel racecar is like a hot chick with a deep mans voice... no thx
M3LKS 1 year ago 3
I'm surprised Lemans are allowing diesel in the competition, Audi has been very consistent with it over the past few years. When Mazda put the 26B rotary in their 787B and won, the car was banned after. But then again things are changing, they're talking about bringing in E85 hybrids soon.
sookster54 1 year ago
@sookster54 787B and/or rotaries were not banned. They were outlawed, but that's only half of the story because so was all Porsche turbo engines and everything else that wasn't naturally aspirated 3.5 litre engine. You see, the change to the ill-fated (that's what caused the downfall of World Sportscar Championship after all) 3.5 L NA engine formula for 1992 season must have been known in mid-1990 because 1991 season was already a transition year with two categories of cars.
deggis4 1 year ago
this brings back bad memories from racedriver grid :(
Claymore2408 1 year ago
The cars look horrible and they sound horrible, there is nothing to see here.
idak12 1 year ago
Belle vidéo. Les Audi ont quand même un bruit de mobylette, dommage pour l'ambiance...
artichaut 1 year ago
MPH or KPH?
rbecker2007 1 year ago
audi rules :D
anoneim 1 year ago
diesels are the wave of the future for auto racing, not because of their success at the track, but because biodiesel is renewable, gasoline is not.
jdoggybizzle 1 year ago
After watching this video I think I know one of the reasons that tha diesels are so good at Le Mans...the drivers don't have to deal with the noise of a petrol engine revving it's head off at 12,000rpm for 24 hrs.I'm not sure what the Audi's rev range is bt at times you can hardly hear it at all
toeboe106 1 year ago
@toeboe106 That's a non-issue. Ever heard of earplugs?
FormulaOneSpy 1 year ago
It's a shame diesel engines need turbochargers to perform well.
n1Erik 1 year ago
Great car, very good driver. I love 24h Le Mans.
Detention4life 1 year ago
this is diesel power ^^ nice to see. I dirve a Audi A4 gasoline car. Think my next car gonna be a diesel :) Sorry my bad english, from sweden dont use it much. have a nice day.
brillmongo 1 year ago
its all good buddy i love the diesel too!
traviscallen 1 year ago
Diesel has 30 - 40 % more energy in a given volume than gasoline.
RikterZilla 2 years ago
Why was there a caution starting at 4:39? You can see Allan wave his hand in frustration there.
OfficialNonsense 2 years ago
When are you people going to realize that diesel engines are better than gasoline engines? What's really cool about the TDI Clean Diesel Technology from Audi and Volkswagon is that there are very few CO2emissions, better durability, more power, more torque, and better efficiency. I know everyone hates the diesels because they don't make any noise, but still diesel engines when you do hear the noise do sound really good. Like I said: Gas noise >> Diesel noise (except for trucks :lol: )
ffmotorsports51 2 years ago 4
@ffmotorsports51
I sort of agree. Powerful diesels with turbos Ive driven have superb perfomance in the 40 >100mph range, and I love them.
Big but tho, they do all sound like tractors whne they arer idling : D
If they can do something about this, I cant see why most wouldnt go for diesel.
gnark1ll1us 2 years ago
well, diesels are these days closer to the petrol engines, both of them are verry similar nowadays. alot of the technology used for petrol engines have made their way to diesel engines. a diesel engine won't last too much longer than a petrol engine these days too. but yes, they are the better one in terms of what really matters. and they are better in most ways than a petrol... but i'd STILL go for the petrol engine. for the sound, tuneability, revs, lightness and their simplicity.
tohtorigyro 2 years ago
@tohtorigyro Yeah that's true. When my van dies I want to get an Audi or Volkswagon that has TDI Clean Diesel Technology in it. You know how bad the economy is right? With a diesel, a lot of money can be saved on fuel and fewer CO2 emissions is good for the enviornment.
ffmotorsports51 2 years ago
yeah, i do admit that. diesel IS the future of internal combustion engines. it is the right tech for the ic engines. albeit a little more expensive to make, and heavier components it still is the more reasonable one, but in motorsports, petrol still is the right one. but... here in finland we've got taxed diesel! meaning that i'f you own a diesel you have to pay fee of aprox. 300-600€. so for some people, diesel is actually too expensive, me included... and i love my bmw 318i -92.
tohtorigyro 2 years ago
Diesels are a rarity here in America. It seems like our addiction to foreign oil just won't end! With a diesel, we can reduce our dependency on foreign oil and can be one step in repairing our economic crisis.
ffmotorsports51 2 years ago
@ffmotorsports51
more power? more torque yes, not more horsepower though.
dtranbikesalot 2 years ago 2
diesel get out
zanolamecanica 2 years ago
dammit i hate diesels. they sound like shit. i hope one day someone comes in with a petrol powered engine with the type of factory backing that audi and peugeot have and kicks everyones ass. that would set a lot of things straight again. i have always really liked audi and their cars, but come on..you're gonna destroy racing doing this crap. soon every1 will bring in diesels because of damn audi introducin them in the first place and nobody is gonna show up for races anymore= no money=dead sport
chipattack911 2 years ago
by "nobody" i mean no spectators but i guess also manufacturers that aren't willing to deal with this diesel shit.
chipattack911 2 years ago
@chipattack911 ... crybaby
pwd3679 2 years ago
@pwd3679 yea i know man....i cry myself to sleep every night just think about it
chipattack911 2 years ago
i know this track like the back of my hand just by racing on it in Grid LOL
sourD420 2 years ago
Those cars look and sound horrible, bring back the 917 and 956
idak12 2 years ago
ディーゼルエンジンだから
Toyshige 2 years ago
なんでこんなに音が低いの？
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LeMansFreak1 2 years ago
These guys are horoes in my eyes
thepainbob666 2 years ago 39
@thepainbob666 If you meant whores you spelled it wrong..
azynkron 1 year ago
@thepainbob666
horoes LOL
y512516 1 year ago
@thepainbob666 you and the 25 ppl who gave u a thumbs up for spelling heroes wrong are my heroes
NeeKroVal 11 months ago
@NeeKroVal i know xD i was drunk when i wrote it ;D
thepainbob666 11 months ago
@thepainbob666 vote this stupid comment down
and this <<<<< one up
so that one would be voted down
amernice 11 months ago
why?
offitcock 8 months ago
Trop beau son casque :D
Maestroparisien 2 years ago
Man i didn't know 2 hundred ought miles per hour looked so slow from the inside of the car! now i appreciate the sense of speed games like forza and gran turismo capture--they don't glamorize it
tonylove16 2 years ago 4
It doesn't look slow in the car, but it does on camera
topbanana188 2 years ago 2
miles per hours lmfao dude... its km/h
smurftits 2 years ago
when you're driving, it seems fast - trust me (:
petroljunky 2 years ago
Man i didn't know 2 hundred ought miles per hour looked so slow from the inside of the car! now i appreciate the sense of speed games like forza and gran turismo capture--they don't glamorize it
tonylove16 2 years ago
200 miles per hour inside anything moving across land does not look slow!! forza and gran turismo DONT capture a sense of speed. gt4 did look quick in a car like this but gt5 prologue is similar to standing still at speeds well above 200 mph.
venomviper32 2 years ago
the sound is so evil :D 1000Nm go..
ez45 2 years ago
this time 2 weeks il be dere.cant wait.
aidanbizkitman 2 years ago
Diesel vs. petrol regs are so fucked up. 1.5 litres more capacity (than biggest turbocharged petrol allowed) and bigger restrictors.
I admire the teams and the technology, but anyone thinking Audi (and Peugeot) have been successful because of diesel's superiority is a victim of marketing.
ACO should ask themselves how many petrol manufacturers have not joined because of the advantage given to diesels.
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago 37
I thought diesels require a larger displacement to produce same amount of power?
op3l 2 years ago
Well, yeah. But the thing is, currently they're not making same amount of power, they're making more. Real balance is impossibility.
Basically regulations have made diesel technology superior, which without the help of regulations IS inferior in racing (unless a lot bigger emphasis is put on fuel usage, but thats not how it is now).
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago
Pescarolo was smart enough to contract a 908 HDI for Le Mans 2009 and Kolles does the same with R10's, we will see how much keeps standing of your statement after the race.
Orvieta 2 years ago
How that relates to my statement? Obviously private teams are going to be less capable than factory teams. Audi and Peugeot being the only factory teams might have oversaturated the difference to petrols but it still has little to do with the the actual engine power difference. You'd think ACO should know pretty accurately at least how much in theory the engines are making. Theres just no incentive to equalize things... well if there is such thing as "equality".
FormulaOneSpy 2 years ago 2
Agree. This is an example of a two tier championship
babylon2233 2 years ago 3
I think it would be more fair with the capacity difference but the restrictors should be the same size.
MrSiraff 2 years ago 2
@FormulaOneSpy
bla bla...as much as they have restricted petrol engine they have done the same with the deiel cars by reducing the fuel tank size, forcing the diesel to do more stops taking away their big advantage...there are always two sides of a medal
BTW you fool...Audi has won befor with petrol powered LMP1...yeah we are all marekting victims..
nagmashot 1 year ago
@nagmashot @nagmashot: Fuel tank size and other tweaks (restrictors) were just pathetic attempts at correcting the error that was already made. Diesel still has outright power "advantage", torque "advantage" and mileage "advantage", thanks to the regulations. Especially the torque is important in sportscars racing - its handy in traffic. Actually I even hate the phrase "the torque of the diesels", it's just twin-turbocharging really...
FormulaOneSpy 1 year ago
@nagmashot Marketing point of view, Audi's petrol year wins are now somewhat irrelevant.
Something that is really inferior, has been made superior by rules. Indeed, inferior - on a race track. The main problem is that ACO (the organizer of Le Mans) is now dictating what technology has a chance to win.
What comes to road cars, diesel is nice. But these are race cars and they have nothing to do with road cars, despide that the manufacturers' blatant PR claims.
FormulaOneSpy 1 year ago
@FormulaOneSpy
I have to admit I understand Henri's gripes about the Audi whooping his cars' butt, but damn dude, he's a privateer going up against a manufacturer. Henri needs some resources. He tried last year with Peugeot, but that didn't work. I'm sure everyone here knows why so I won't talk about it. Maybe somebody will work with him if he asks but he's not. He's killing me in that regard. the way I look at it as is "If you can't beat them, join them."
ratzinator1 1 year ago
@ratzinator1
let me rephrase line 2 and 3 actually
he (Henri Pescarolo) is a privateer going up against "2" manufacturers; oops
ratzinator1 1 year ago
@ratzinator1 I'm not talking about Pescarolo. Biggest petrol threats has been the Lola-Aston Martins.
FormulaOneSpy 1 year ago
@FormulaOneSpy
to me, if Audi and Peugeot can do it, why can't everyone else instead of complaining that those two have the edge. If they don't like it, change with them.
ratzinator1 1 year ago
@ratzinator1 Everyone else, for example Acura or Aston Martin? Acura builds luxury cars and has no diesel road cars models. Neither does Aston Martin and diesel and sportscars doesn't really make a great pair at this time. This wouldn't be an issue at all if diesel had an GENUINE ADVANTAGE, but because it doesn't have. Understand the regulations.
FormulaOneSpy 1 year ago
@FormulaOneSpy Not only are the regulations unfair, but I think that they should be banned just because of the way they sound! So much of racing for me is the way that the cars sound, and these diesels just sound like shit! They need to bring back rotary engines, and they need to bring back Group C!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
supratt2jzgte 1 year ago
@FormulaOneSpy Not to sound like im trying to "protect" audi and peugeot, don't you think that they have thought out the difference to make it as even as possible, I mean, there are huge differences between diesel and petrol. I may be wrong because im not very in to Le Mans racing, but as i said i think they have thought out the diffrences because they are proffesionals, and you don't get to work with Le Mans engineering if you are on Go-Kart stage.
Lurkzz 1 year ago
@FormulaOneSpy I totally agree with you... also because a bigger engine means more weight , so it's quite difficult to balance power and weight to actually have less fuel consumption then the petrol opponents
theanswer00 1 year ago
@FormulaOneSpy Not true really, the Aston Martin DBR1-2 has a 6.0 liter engine, half a liter more displacement than the R10-15 and 908, the diesels protos get a slightly higher turbo boost pressure and restrictor, but have a smaller fuel tank and are required to be 25kg heavier 925kg vs 900kg for petrol cars.
I just think that the overwhelming torque advantage of a diesel is what makes the so effective in endurance racing, the 2011 regulations seem to cure that though.
HekateMGO 1 year ago
@HekateMGO The Aston V12 is a naturally aspirated engine. Petrol and diesel and very different kind of technologies, but turbocharging is turbocharging. So, I would say instead "the overwhelming torque advantage of twin-turbocharging". You know how sporty engine a naturally aspirated diesel would be.
I'm not too hopeful about 2011 regs. I'm already waiting 2014-. Some very interesting talk about moving into a new kind philosophy; limits on total energy.
FormulaOneSpy 1 year ago
@FormulaOneSpy At least Porsche is coming back in 2014. There's rumors that Ferrari might come back and GM might make a Le Mans prototype as well.
NicksCorvetteMan 5 months ago
sound suck
elio1098 2 years ago 7
Le mans cars are much more heavy so that's why they are slower than F1 cars. TDI engines are for older citizens...Audi uses tdi in motorsport becouse major market of audi is USA where they don't like diesels. The future is DIESOTTO engine which is sum of advantages of diesel and petrol engines and it has got changeable compression. The further step is Hydrogen
acsznycel 2 years ago
Diesel............... the future
davida41200 2 years ago
This car is untouchable in GRID for PS3 haha. As soon as I saved 20 mill for it, I raced it in Le Mans once and made back half of what I paid for it haha.
WhiteStallion99 2 years ago
no chance to F1. straights and curves F1 are huge faster. 280-290 km/h takes F1 much shorter than here 250
karkass4 2 years ago
but look at the technology differences in the F1 cars. they redline at 19,000 RMS and the R10's redline at 5,000. before the new cars were made for the 2009 F1 series F1 cars used to cost $7 million PER CAR just to build that doesnt take into consideration all the fuel and tires and spare parts required thats just to buy the car.when it comes to durability though, the R10 wins hands down. id like to see an F1 car do a 24 hr race without breaking down
birnside32 2 years ago
Jesus christ there is so much bullshit on youtube comments.
An F1 car breaks down right after x races because x races is the minimum required time it has to last! That is the whole point! Haven't you heard "A perfect race car breaks down after it crosses the finish line"?
They do this because then they can extract the maximum amount of performance.
An F1 car with just a little detuning would last 24 hours no problem, and would always EAT any LeMans car.
posixoptions 2 years ago
F1 car would literally melt in a 24 hour-race...it's just not built for that.
some of the parts on a F1 can reach upto 1000 degrees c.
Vaskalaze 2 years ago
The car is good but the sound is bulshit,they must make better sound on that car.
toniiii9 2 years ago
its diesel and low end torque without high RPMs. the redline is 5,000 RPMs so thats why it is so quiet
birnside32 2 years ago
UNGODLY silent. Just awesome.
wasabij 2 years ago
TDI power!
Davidik50 2 years ago 3
like music to my ears.
winstonerr 2 years ago
The sound is reminiscent of the early 30's Auto Union race cars, only with mufflers on them.
jdoggybizzle 2 years ago
is there any full race broadcast in the world?
fran812 2 years ago
Beautiful car no doubt about it, but where are the times of the sophisticated enginesound of the Rothmans porsches and superb drivers like stefan bellof, jackie ickx, hans stuck and derek bell????? Those were the days, and i hate the political correct boring circuit of le mans nowadays.
miauw777 2 years ago 2
I wish they'd just have all onboard cameras for the next 24 hours of Nürburgring.
The first thing they could do is that the Mulsanne Straight proper is just short of the 2 kilometer mark, and the parts before and after the straight proper aren't really that long.
OfficialNonsense 2 years ago
A ver que pasa si al resto le ponen un par de turbitos solpando a 4 kilos, ya vereis donde va estar el tdi.
fernandohermida1 2 years ago
Is this as loud as a Civic with a fartcan muffler quiet, or "My God, is there a muffler installed on this car" quiet?
OfficialNonsense 2 years ago
It is very quiet. Probably quieter than a lot of cars out there today when going flat-out. They had to add in extra shift lights into the cockpit so that they driver could get a better idea of the engine rpm's/shifting times. So by racecar standards, this is pretty much as quiet as it gets, even though you don't normally think of diesel being quiet.
redbull89123 2 years ago
and im a huge fan of ducati's, although if i were to buy one, id be more after a buell myself. although i would still love to see a turbocharged v-twin diesel cruiser hit the market :)
Biggriz86 2 years ago
oddley enough, im a vw salesman, so ive driven a TDi or two, and the weak north american market versions to boot :) aside from a little roll out turbo lag, ive been extremely impressed with the new models, and am looking to buy an older one. some simple upgrades using factory parts, and many owners are getting 200hp and 300ftlbs, and still getting over 40mpg combined driving. beats fuel anyday of the week in my book :) i still dont understand the objection of diesel in an endurance race though.
Biggriz86 2 years ago
also, modern diesels, when properly designed, are not the black smoke emitting monsters they used to be, by the same token the gasoline cars are not nearly as clean as some think. race cars in general are far more polluting than road cars. Diesel technology is less refined than gas, at present, but a surge in its popularity, both on the road, and in racing is leading to the kinds of progress and refinements that are making it more attractive than gasoline. things change, its the natural state.
Biggriz86 3 years ago
i agree but i think that a diesel always mantains a certain character of the past...i hope in a good future for diesels (my father got one and it's good for the long distances) on the road but not in races: the problem is that audi want to make diesel good for high performance cars, R8 v12 tdi it's a proof of that, but personally i don't like it...ok the developement but, please, not on le mans...
blk8911 2 years ago
Due to strict regulations diesels never really run "rich" these days, but they do make awesome power anyway. The problem with diesels is that you're always running on the most powerful rpm range. Thats why you cant really make a high tuned diesel like you do with a gasolin engine. No one revs engine to 7000rpm on every gear, but in a diesel you dont have to, thats why powerful diesels would never last because people always take the maximum out of them accidentally destroying gears and tires.
mondayfool 2 years ago
It is very easy to get a lot of power out of a standard 1.9 VW diesel, but as power increases but revs dont gearbox is the one that acts as a fuse very quickly as it is stressed so much all the time.
My opinion is that diesel is good. Theres no question diesels are more efficient even when run a lot harder especially with heavy cars like they are today.
In small cars VW currently makes 1.4L gasoline engine with dual charging which looks very promising contender.
mondayfool 2 years ago
that's another reason why i hate them in competitions
blk8911 2 years ago
also in the event of a crash, alcohol has an invisible flame, and is easier to ignite, where diesel is more like a heavy oil, so its hard to ignite but burns yellow so you can see it. not to mention modern advances in algae diesel are promising a powerful, efficient, carbon neutral fuel both for racing and the world at large for the future. for me, it comes down to if its fast, thats all that matters, and the R10 has proven diesel is fast....faster than the competition actually.
Biggriz86 3 years ago
i know advantages and disadvantages about ethanol (many race championship use this fuel btw), it's only an example to explain that different fuels affect too much (in my opinion) to the results of a race...if everyone start in the same condition the winner will be the best driver with the best strategy and not the one that have to stop less times...le mans regulations are balanced for turbo, non-turbo, supercharged, aspirates, normal engines and wankel but everyone of this engines use the same
blk8911 3 years ago
fuel, in this way they have the same relationship between performance and consumption...i think they have to put a smaller fuel tank for diesels to reduce the advantage of smaller consumption...yes, now diesels are fast but that is not so important in an endurance race: they're really efficient and that is a good thing in an endurance race, but in a normal race i don't think they would win easily...gasoline is always faster if compared to an equal engine powered by diesel
blk8911 3 years ago
and if you take a look to the technical specs of the R10 you will find some technical solution that a road car can't use (like the high pressure of injectors, more than the 1600 bar of a stock car or the 2.94 bar of turbos when road cars, also tuned cars, used a maximum pressure of 2.0 with gasoline and less than 1.0 in diesel engines (!)) and the big amount of torque (plus than 1100 nm) cause a lot of problems about the design of trasmission components and they have to limit it for reliability
blk8911 3 years ago
(also the R8 diesel v12 prototype is limited to 500nm 'cause they haven't already found a trasmission strong enough)...so this no so useful for road cars, i think they have to work on bio fuel and hydrogen (i know the problem of these two fuels is the distribution bu only bmw is working on it well)...personally i don't like diesels for a lot of other reason like the vibration, the smell
blk8911 3 years ago
the sound, the colour of the smoke (full of dark dust that clogs the lungs, bleah) and the way that it put the power down and i don't think that a diesel is so enjoyable like a gasoline sportcar...
blk8911 3 years ago
first off, let me just say, i totally respect personal opinions, its why i prefer the sound and feel of a big block to a 2.0L import car, but others love them. Im a torque driver, i prefer the feel to a high winding hp engine. but i have to challenge your assertation that the technology in the R10 dosnt apply to a road car. i think youd be hard pressed to find a lemans engine in a road car anywhere in the world. indy racing for instance, runs strait alcohol, and extreme boost pressure as well.
Biggriz86 3 years ago
i respect your opinion too, we're just talking ;- )...i'm a "torque driver" too, my bike is't a Ducati, and these bikes are famous for their torque (compared to some japanese brand) but in a car i prefer the bigger range of revs of a gasoline engine to the torque of diesel...torque of these engines is different from the torque of a big block, i don't know if you have ever drove a tdi before (i know that in usa tdi aren't really common but maybe it's only a sterotype of european people)
blk8911 2 years ago
a road car with a le mans engine? well, i know about a le mans car that have the engine of a road car so it development can improve the production cars: Porsche GT1...exactly the same identical block of the carrera 3.2 (!) with replaced pistons, two turbos and a different exhaust system...Porsche turbo and GT2 are based on the technology of the GT1...many little particulars can be used on road car but in my opinion the R10 is structurally too complex to do the same thing...
blk8911 2 years ago
diesel in not for motorsport...tdi have too much advantage for the fuel consumption, a victory in an endurance race is obvious with this kind of advantage...they will kill the spirit of this race...no more engines screaming on 10.000 rpm and a smell of combusted gasoline but a continuos bzzzzzzz and a lot of dark smoke from tailpipes...
blk8911 3 years ago
well..... you still have bike racing for 10k rev limits, and as has already been seen, they are limiting the diesels to keep it competative. remember, people said the same thing about turbochargers when they first became mainstream.
Biggriz86 3 years ago
imho these limitations aren't enough, there are too many differences between this two kind of engine...turbo or aspirate no matter if you use the same fuel and if you have balanced rules, but if you use another fuel like ethanol you can see a huge gap of performance or consumption like in this case...i support ethanol in motorsport because it increase the performances ( between 5 and 30 percent) but only if everyone in the race use the same fuel...
blk8911 3 years ago
see, i would only support ethanol based on its cleaner burning nature. but its actually more harmful to produce on an environmental level, and because of its lower energy density, it would cause either a larger fuel tank to be necessary which is more dangerous in the event of a crash, or would cause more pit stops, slowing the pace of the race. diesel has the opposite effect, its causing smaller fuel tanks to be required, and reduces the need for pit stops.
Biggriz86 3 years ago
El futuro son los diesel,se ha conseguido un diesel mas potente que un gasolina,osea con lo que conlleva menos paradas a boxes,pero si,lastima los sonidos.
delfinea 3 years ago
yeah.. nice race =D
klan13 3 years ago
to compaire, the engine of Audi R10 is more quite that the engine of R8. I think Audi is the better team in LMP class
ViniciusLimaRS 3 years ago
What sort of revvs are these audi tdi's doing?
3ridetec 3 years ago
the r8 chassi has won more races than any other lemans cahssi...ever... so what if the engine is bigger than the petrol ones. The audi r10 is still very fast.
badbob91 3 years ago
los motores diesel son increibles, pero definitivamente no tiene ningun sonido emocionante, no me gustaria que le mans se silenciara con motores diesel
sebastianlyonpower 3 years ago
Simplemente TDI POWER
Alejandroider540 3 years ago
TDI POWER!
sausagenmuff 3 years ago
we want to see the final chicane not his helmet! but other then that its very interesting.
AceKarterReloaded 3 years ago
i cant wait for the R15 to come out at Sebring
f1guy17 3 years ago
Torque rulez
szikvizes 3 years ago
Audi R10 is engineering genius.
13WhiteFang37 3 years ago 4
I went to the 8 hours of Silverstone cuz my dads mate works for peugeot or something - he was furious to see i was wearing a audi sport cap and shirt!
Those Peugeot's sound pretty quiet compared to murcialago gt and boy thats a loud car (the loudest)
but those audis sound so whimpy, its like their gliding on hybrid engines or something, i thought they were gonnna sound like loud lorries/trucks or somethin they are as quiet on tv as they are on the track
R.I.P Panoz (the loudest of loud!)
damiannerd 3 years ago
What a lousy track layout. They destroyed the soul of the track. Watch the 1977 onboard video here on YouTube. Much better layout.
TSi99999 3 years ago
they put 2 chicanes in.... haha
gino800 3 years ago
Derek Bell's InCar 956 is my vote for the True Lemans course. OnBoard with a car clocked at 246MPH during the 1983 race.
Twin540i 3 years ago 3
The R10 itself is great, but the engine note is really horrible... No matter how much of a fan of modern diesels I am, this is an area they just seem to not be able to shine...
capellialexandre 3 years ago
They dont make those cars to sound the best.
They are made to win. And the R10 is on of the, if not the best lmp1 car there is. With its diesel engine it has achieved it all.
bennndik 3 years ago
what channel is this on?
Bsatt 3 years ago
Audi Power !
Philmen 3 years ago
Audi are going to build new car to beat Peugeot!
the R8 has less Torque and Power!
LeMansMotorsport 3 years ago
I drive faster and better than this.
(in Race Driver: GRID)
Poisonseed 3 years ago
I have GRID too. Pretty easy tho. I wish it was more realistic.
zaction 3 years ago
and?
bennndik 3 years ago
and? I'm better.
Poisonseed 3 years ago
Apart from the new diesel power, what other differences are there between the R10 and R8?
slungbungdungclung 3 years ago
r10 is a race car, r8 is a sportscar.
pinkelpinkel 3 years ago