Let me destroy Sam’s non-sense arguments one by one:
Falsie 2: Cont’d
Even if one accepts Sam’s wrong assertion about human life expectancy, when one include infant mortality and dying through tribal wars, human life expectancy did NOT increased much. Then there is also the question of quality of life (as in brains & thought) not just longevity years.
Again, what exactly is his point, about the supposed increase in life expectancy. What is his CONCLUSION? What is he proving?
@arraba99 In the original video he was making a case for our understanding of what is mentally healthy by comparing it to our understanding of what is physically healthy.
The point of my montage was to gather sound bites of Sam Harris where he expresses himself in a way I find fascinating and funny.
Let me destroy Sam’s non-sense arguments one by one:
Falsie 2: Cont’d
Many known Greek Philosophers lived to 90 years & some 100+. They did so in full control of their faculty. Ho many of those who live 90 and 100 today have the intellect of a Greek philosopher?
According to Genesis & Quran Noah lived 950 years. In fact there is a story about a mother being sad because her son died at the young age of about 360 years.
Neither; Just a very reasoned person with enough sophistication to NOT look at the world with black & white glasses.
I know more science than you will ever know, unless you hold a Ph.D. in it.
But, will you ever people grow up beyond your adolescence & open your minds. You JUST might learn something & in the process elevate yourself a notch above mindless animals (No insult intended) without conscience purpose in life except to eat and satisfy its instincts.
Let me destroy Sam’s non-sense arguments one by one:
Falsie 2:
Sam says: “when this statute was carved, the average human expectancy was probably 30…”
Wrong again, according to “his” evolutionary theory, earliest human (Neanderthals) lived about 30 years. So by the Greeks or Romans period (when statute was carved) life expectancy was claimed to be 38-48 years.
However based on eastern, Jewish, Arab and Persian history ancient human, lived to the age of hundreds and more.
Rats can spread 35 diseases to human (Europe Plague, killed millions). Squirrels may spread few diseases, but usually do not, because they do not live in houses.
As you can see it is not about fluffy tails. As un-profound and mindless as this falsie is, so is Sam’s logic and arguments.
As you can Sam’s arguments are based on untrue, half truths & on generating amusing “jokes” that seems to distract ignorant listeners from his nonsense arguments.
Let me destroy Sam’s non-sense arguments one by one:
Falsie 1:
Sam says: we hate Rats but we think Squirrels are cute because they have fluffy tails so ..not having fluffy tails is really a bad luck for the Rats…” He gets some mindless laughs.
Squirrels eat mostly vegetation, nuts; Rats eat anything, dead meat, grain, filth, human waste.
Squirrels live on trees, bushes; Rats live in sewers, trash, crawl spaces in houses.
If someone knocks down science without knowledge, we call him ignorant. Do not knock down Quran without knowledge. If you are atheist and claim reason; the first dictate of REASON is to know.
Do not knock it down based on Hollywood & media sound bites & the likes of Sam who admits to never reading the Quran or commentators who twist things for their own agenda.
Check all American atheist Dr. Laurence Brown (Episode 3) search for truth
Lizardoooo, the flies master thinks he descents from Lizards and it shows. Poor tortured soul, it is not easy having to live with such past. He lost faith in everything; well I might have if I think my ancestors were flies eating Lizards.
@jhall38, the Jahel thinks he descends from Chimps and it also shows. He only understands four letter words are mostly vowels (o, e, a) and the letters h & g. –Chimps speak.
I pray they both find themselves & find the truth
I am not spamming, I was responding to your ignorant and retarded argument to me. But as true of you and your ilk, when your argument is debunked, you resort to deranged attacks, cursing and show your bigotry. Your likes will go the way of the Dinosaurs and sooner than you think.
You do not have to debate Muslims, which I may be or may be not, but you do not have to be vulgar about it. Can you NOT & your ilk communicate with more than four letter words. Is this the limit of your knowledge and intelligence or you just use vulgarity to escape from reasoned and intelligent arguments. It is G-dless thugs like you that create problems in this world not Religion & certainly not Islam. I say Garbage (in brain) Garbage out (of your mouth)
I am not lecturing you, i would not wsate my time on your likes. Just behave yourself and be civilised. Islam is way above your horizon to comprehend, as it does not fit within your sound bites capacity intake. Just keep your vulgarity to yourself.
Sweden, with highest percentage of Atheists in the world has highest per capita rate of suicide in the world. There is some correlation.
topperheartramada you need some mental help & religion.
There has been two independent studies in North America that showed Religious people (regardless of which religion they fellow) are happier, more successful, healthier mentally and physically and live longer.
Well, well, well, another one just crawled from under a rock.
What is the matter, you do not like me holding a mirror to your face?
And which specie may ask you think you decent from? Monky’s?
Well, I decent from Adam and I am not afraid of mirrors.
If you are embarrassed by whom you claim as ancestors, you should STOP and think about the nonsense of it. But if you insist, you should NOT be embarrassed by your relation to them!
When he compares the burqa women and the porn magazines he made a bit of a mistake. One is the actual dress code for all women in a society. The other is a tiny magazine section in the corner of a 7-eleven.
@Direnaar Thanks for the tip. See I always buy magazines and the thing is that people who work in the shop always take them to the toilet and jerk off over the photos and then put them back on the shelf so I constantly have to scrape off the semen from the pages.
@topperheartramada I think you missed the point. Those magazines are "aspirational" to use the marketing jargon, they purportedly depict what women should aim for and their influence extends well beyond the corner of the local 7-eleven. They influence fashion preferences, courtship behaviour, aesthetic preferences and the concept of womanhood and ideas of femininity. To the extent of their readership they are successful in being influencing women.
@topperheartramada Harris' idea comes from Aristotle that what is good is the mean between two extremes. The extremes in this case are "whore"/"slut" and "nun"/"God's police"/ascetic and I think both Aristotle and Harris are correct that the ideal role for women is somewhere between these two extremes.
Sam is babbling and using Fox News style sound bites devoid substance. He plays on people's biases/fear that has been fed to them by an establishment, which has succeeded into turning generations of Americans, except small percentage, into un-thinking sink holes ready to absorb whatever Fox, CNN & Hollywood throws at them. While they are blundering the nation with bogus wars & financial scams. Sad to see America’s great potential gradually ruined by few.
@arraba99 You're trying to hit on three different topics at once here, attempting to criticize everything from America to Fox News, but you are failing to substantiate your criticism of Sam Harris with any hard evidence.
Sam (or others) point to a perceived “weakness or issue” in faith & theology, believe in G-d, G-d attributes; religion, its attributes, teachings & benefits and those who profess in them without providing substantive supporting arguments beyond some “witty” entertaining lines. Sam (others) quickly & distractingly jump from one relatively distinct topic to another as if they are one. They are not. Each has its contextual premise, assumption, arguments …etc. Cont’d
The easiest thing is to poke some (perceived or real) hole in a concept or premise, but proving it or refuting is another issue. There are three fundamental problems with Sam’s and most Atheist approach to “debate”: 1) They think they can poke “holes” & religion has to disprove them and they do not have to prove anything. E.g. If they expect religion to prove their premise of G-d existence, the same principle Atheists has to prove their opposing premise. Cont’d
If I really want to debunk most or everything he is saying, I would need several pages to say the least, but I will try if you have thestomach for it. A premise (as in theorem, in Sam’s case a sound bite) may require a line or one single statements to state, proving it, which he does not do, require pages/a book. Similarly refuting it may also require pages. And this is what I find fundamentally wrong with Sam’s approach & the ongoing dialog (on this forum). Cont’d
@arraba99 You can stop trying to blind me with your rhetoric -- loaded with wikipedia inspired vocabulary. There's no need for it at all. I read three comments of you essentially explaining that you don't agree with Harris's persuasive style of arguing. Why do you disagree with what Sam Harris is arguing and give it to me straight; 'several pages' are not needed either.
The incoherent arguments from the "village atheists" has the trademark of strawman arguments. I do not see how any rational thinging person can find any substance in Harris arguments.
@Surfxeo then tour critical thinking skills are not good enough. He does proper, VERIFIABLE arguments. WLC only does "based on my experience" arguments.Go ahead and verify them. I'll save you some time, you won't be able to. You haven't read your Bible well enough.
@Direnaar I already have verified them to know that his hot air has no bases in history. I just go to the earliest and best sources to verify what Harris believe is just nonsense. It is so shallow and without rational. It is at the level simpleton and is extremely prejudiced.
Sam is a demagoge And playing as a atheist. He is inteligent, educated And at the same time ignorant and is in need Of wisdom.
Wisdom is a virtue And come from humility. Sam Harris strives with his little, limited mind to penetrate the mystery of God, dignity And destiny Of mankind And so on...
He says that there are no evidences as to the existence Of God! Let him look at the mirror And see the reflection Of God's existence in himself as well as in any creature, even in those who deny God.
@franciszek8D Are you seriously claiming wisdom comes from pondering unsolvable mysteries which you yourself make up? I would agree wisdom comes from pondering deep things, but the idea of a God is not one of them, because it is plain silly, and it does not provide any guidance whatsoever.
And claiming to have knowledge of a god is maybe the least humble thing you can do, because the only reason people are doing that is because they want to be 'special', separate from everything else.
" Yes, naturally stupid are all who are unaware of God, and who, from good things seen, have not been able to discover Him-who-is, or, by studying the works, have not recognised the Artificer. And if they have been impressed by their power and energy, let them deduce from these how much mightier is he that has formed them, since through the grandeur and beauty of the creatures we may, by analogy, contemplate their Author."
@franciszek8D Then, with respect, in order to contemplate the author it is the very LEAST you can do to try to understand the world that He has made available to you. In other words, rational, rigorous and critical investigation.
Hey Dr. Harris, when are you going to provide us with a sneering polemic against Judaism, as you have done in the case of both Christianity and Islam since, as we all know, you think that all religion is bullshit?
Oh, I forgot, Jewish fanaticism gets a free pass, being that you're a nice Jewish boy who wouldn't dream of saying anything that might call into question the prevailing myth of the Holy Chosen Pimples and the need for us all to support their blood-soaked apartheid state for Jew ONLY!
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
@will4fang Sam has more well being in his head, than but a handful of the MDs I have
consulted in my 63 years, during 40 of which, MDs enjoyed the assurance and counsel of such as myself and Sam. I am but a person who passed his ASCP boards, one test, on one day. MDs rarely perform science due to the lack of having a significant original, or imaginative thought in their heads, beyond spider man. MDs, by majority, are no more than the technicians who "practice" the science they supposedly learn.
@guysovereign Yes indeed. Lying. What an interesting subject. Deception is probably one of the MOST important pillars of survival. It goes wrong, of course, when one deceives oneself.
@guysovereign Clearly my comment was WAY over your head. You're probably another deluded dogmatist with no sense of breadth or depth and certainly no irony. You are otherwise known as a cretin. Read my comment again, and if you STILL don't get it, please don't projectile your toxic, superstitious garbage in my direction.
300 hundreds years Of persucution Of Christians from very beginning proves that Jesus was not a myth but a Real, historical person.
Moreover if people are decided to suffer And die for what they believe proves - that they were shure that what they believe is truth. Nobody dies for what he or she believes may be true or may not be true. I would never suffer for sumething what I believe is not certain.
From the very beginning Christians were persecuted. However they believed apostles And therefore they were willing to die. Over three hundreds years Of persecution is a hard, solid proof that something unusal happened in Jerusalem. Do not think that in that time people were naive so much that they believed in absurdity.
@franciszek8D "From the very beginning Christians were persecuted...Over three hundreds years Of persecution is a hard, solid proof that something unusal happened in Jerusalem."
Deuteronomy 13:6-11, 2 Chronicles 15:13, and other verses indicate that Christianity was/is a "join, or else" cult, for non-believers. A recent survey indicated that atheists are the most hated group in America(80% +/- Christian nation). Does this mean atheists are correct? I feel that persecution proves nothing.
Jesus rose from the grave! Why do so many people believe in resurrected Christ.
1. Do you think His apostles were stupid And naive. First they refused to believe. They believed after they had seen Him many times as a living person. One Of them said: "I will believe if I put my fingers into His wounds".
This certitude that Jesus really rose from the grave -
gave them courage And motivation to die for such truth. All Of them died as martyrs. Is it possible to die cruel death for what is not tru
Sam! Humility, humility because reality is much more mysterious.
The Bible was written by some people inspired by God, who lived in their time. They had limited knowledge And God nevertheless used their limited knowledge to convey some immortal ideas like the necessity Of morale, love, truth... God did not reveal them present scientific truths, it was not necessary. How did they believe God in that primitive time if He revealed them that not the Sun but the Earth rotates around the Sun. Peop
One of the reasons I respect Sam Harris is that he seems near infinitely patient when debating, as far as I have seen he has never tried to shout over an opponent never used stick men arguments or any number of ridiculous debating tricks and red herrings. Humor is a useful tool but he doesn't over do it. Sam Harris is the man
No doubt Sam Harris is a brilliant man, with a genuine theological point. However, I believe most of points are trite and only point to the lunacy of religious doctrine, and not to the existence of a higher power.
@rigby333 I agree, his arguments do not focus on disproving the existence of a broader sense God. Most of the time he is more precise in that he confront the major religions for providing a framework which (more often than most moderates like to acknowledge) functions as a basis for immoral and sometimes violent acts by extremists. I mean, in contrast he has mentioned Jainism to illustrate that religious extremism doesn't necessarily lead to violence.
@VillageAtheist, no scientist (Sam included) will say that they are trying or will try to disprove god, as it has been said one billion times it is impossible to disprove anything. What people like Sam do is show how the universe and its existence does not need a god to begin or to function.
@VillageAtheist You can't disprove god. Well, you can a bit if god is precisely defined. Sam and other high profile atheists therefore do not attempt to disprove god as they hold no burden of proof. It sufficient to only support your positive truth claim that the evidence proved by theists for their positive truth claim is insufficient for a thinking person to hold such a belief.
@8:30 Newton for the win. Probably the greatest mind in recorded history for which we have records of achievement. It can be reiterated enough how profound his contributions were. Without him, we likely would just be getting radio. That's a guess, but it is fun to think about.
@rigby333 Agreed, but as unsatisfying as it might be considering deism is a position one could have a serious debate over. The majority of people he debates are those of a specific religion. Deism in itself really doesn't effect the world massively, at least as far as I'm aware.
@nurseratchit There are other argument that could be made in regards to existence of a higher power, however. Not everyone who believes in a higher power believes in Adam and Eve and Noah's Arc and all these other ludicrous stories inside a religious text. He uses these as a crutch to make a more general attack on the existence of a God at all. However, there are arguments which could be made by a deist, which he fails to address.
@rigby333 Since when did it become his job to dispute every possible belief system people might hold? I'm not really sure what your point is. He's an atheist...he does not believe in any gods not just the Christian god. Go ahead and make your other arguments for a higher power if you wish, but don't expect atheists to be moved by it. Why do you consider it an attack to not believe in a being for whom there exists no evidence?
@nurseratchit Well he seems to have a very strong opinion about the end of organized religion. It seems if someone wishes to take that stand, they should address any practical argument in support of a higher power or human spirituality. I never said I find his arguments to be an attack, rather they just don't really resonate with me because they seem to be of common sense. There are other more pertinent and relevant discussions to be had.
@rigby333 actually you did say "He uses these as a crutch to make a more general attack on the existence of a God..." That's fine if it doesn't resonate with you and your dislike of common sense. Why are you even here if you don't feel the topic is pertinent? What do you consider a 'practical argument in support of a higher power?' This is not the same as human spirituality and in fact he has stated that atheists can have 'spiritual' experiences. Your arguments make no sense.
@nurseratchit I find that your lack of reading comprehension makes no sense. I VIRTUALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAYS, BUT THINK THAT HIS ARGUMENTS ARE COP OUTS! I just think that he could address the issue of a the existence of God in a more thorough fashion, rather than simply using the lunacy of religious doctrine as evidence against it. This is the last post I'm making though. The irony is that you're as blindly following Sam Harris' words as a Christian does the words of the Bible.
@rigby333 You agree with virtually everything Sam Harris says and then say that I'm the one following his every word?! All caps and rudeness do not bring any more sense to your claims. If you want to have Sam address the existence of God more thoroughly, then why not challenge him to a debate yourself? Otherwise there are numerous videos and essays you can find where he does just that. You keep saying the same thing over and over, yet bring forward nothing of substance yourself.
There is no evidence, nor sound logical justification, for the existence of a higher power, even less so for one which has any opinion on the homo sapien species. Until this changes, there is no reason for him to try to disprove anything, because it is an unfounded, unsupported and supernatural claim.
So you're right, he spends more time focusing on the violent and absurd effects of religious doctrine, because, whereas the dogma is simply myth, the followers of these cults are real.
@rigby333 I think attempting to dismiss a higher power outright would immediately pull the blinds for the more religiously devoted , forcing them to stop processing his assertions which would derail his intention. The religious are quick to cease listening lest they go to Hell for being an audience to such heresy.
@rigby333 Harris is up against Theism-or the theistic god--Not deism. He simply points out very large problems with viewing the world in that way. There are definitely higher powers--such as gamma ray bursts- or that fact that there are planets literally trillions of times larger than ours. I have no problem with people who want to believe there is a higher power of some sort--but I have a huge problem with someone who thinks theres a higher power and that it cares about, or even created us.
@pawndominance1 Well given that I believe in a higher power, I must logically believe that the higher power created us. Whether or not humans are special by the higher power's standards, or whether the higher power even has a consciousness such as that, I am not sure. I don't know if I believe in heaven or hell, but I definitely believe in a creator of the universe, and the embodiment of that creator in the universe collectively.
@rigby333 how can you look at how insignificant our planet and our galaxy is and still think theres a being that created the universe AND intended for the homo sapien species to be the focal point. How do you reconcile that contradiction?
@pawndominance1 Well that's a good question, which is primarily why I'm not entirely sure. However, to play devils advocate, let me ask you this: what kind of a God which values faith would simply walk amongst us, plain for all to see? I can't imagine a being of supreme knowledge and power to simply grace us with his presence, or even provide irrefutable evidence of his existence or nonexistence.
However, as I mentioned earlier, I don't necessarily believe humans are the focal point.
@rigby333 but thats my point--no god would value faith because even humans can see that its just not something to value. Its not courageous or selfless or helpful or anything--With your other point, I'll grant your idea that god wouldnt want his existence to be proven etc...but that doesnt explain why he would put up a bunch of clones and have morality be a multiple choice test-where your answer is more correlated to where your born than anything else. America=christ, India=Buddhism etc.
@rigby333 To go a little bit further, i believe that I'll bring up the capability of reason or rationale. I know the viewers of this video will love this, and keep in mind I do not subscribe to any religious doctrine. However, humans have been purported to be created in God's own image. I have imagined that not be in a physical sense, but rather our ability to reason. God is supposedly omniscient, thus has supreme rationale. Humans contain rationale, thus we are closest to God.
One last disclaimer however: I don't not necessarily believe human beings are special beings, or that the creator of the universe has any favor for humans. I'm not even suggesting the the creator of the universe is capable of favoring anything. I don't necessarily believe that there is a heaven and hell, or that God is omniscient or omnipotent. The only thing that I wish affirm is that I believe there is a creator of the universe.
@rigby333 how can any human appeal to the existence of a higher power (god). its completely outside our observational boundry, we dont have enough evidence to say wether god does or does not exist.
@rigby333 Does it always have to be about proving or disproving? Lighten up and enjoy Sam's wit why don't you - and stop calling his points trite, because they *all* expose the lunacy of religion, and that's a good thing.
@1cor13Godislove Madre, ActionAid International, International Relief Teams, AmeriCares, Doctors Without Borders, Partners In Health, Humanist Charities of the American Humanist Association, Direct Relief International, and the American Red Cross. These are just a FEW of the secular charities I found on a Haiti relief site.
@iliveon: Don't Ignore the facts. Look at what is done by believers in the Merciful Redeemer: A21 campaign, C2BU, Compassion Intl, World Vision, Sisters of Mercy, Samaritan's Purse, Habitat for Humanity, Rescue Missions, Teen Challenge and more. What good has come out of YOUR worldview?
@VillageAtheist I too have quite the intellectual man crush on Sam. In your description of the video you call him a neurologist. He is not a MD. He has a PhD in Neuroscience. I hate to be a sticker, but there is a difference.
@1cor13Godislove Those are examples of ALTRUISM, a behaviour trait present in humans and almost all social animals, even those that lack higher cognitive functions similar ours. Just watch Battle at Kruger to see a perfect example of this. The buffalo in the video did not have moral guidance from a deity or scripture to perform an act of altruism, rather it is ingrained in them to help those of their group in peril, even if it means facing the teeth and claws of a lion.
@1cor13Godislove. Those benefits, are not outweighed by the negativity of Christianity. Those intentions of those actions, are not charity, but to advanced the religion, so thus they are selfish, and not a charity, but more of an exchange to sell the religion of Christianity. Atheist, do charity, for charity, not to advance a religion.
@1cor13Godislove Doctors without Borders, DonorsChoose, The Nature Conservancy, Oxfam International, The SEED foundation, United Nations Children's Fund, Wheelchair Foundation, Planned Parenthood Federation of America ...
Atheists don't do good things to promote the lack of belief in a god, most are good for the sake of being good. Contrary to what is told in the bible, humans aren't inherently evil. In fact, most animals aren't. Just because people choose to do good things and attribute their gracious actions to the belief in a god, doesn't mean those same actions can't be performed for completely secular reasons.
There are good and bad people on both ends of the spectrum.
@1cor13Godislove GOD IS LOVE? Children who mock their parents will have their eyes plucked out by ravens and eaten by eagles, parents should be willing to kill their children for God, sometimes God kills children for misbehaving and my personal favourite....Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. AND YOU WORSHIP THIS SICK TWISTED DEITY AND THINK HE IS LOVE?
Not to mention greek philosphers (like Democritus, Epicurus), other important figures of this nature (Jefferson, Franklin) and just about every scientific development in history.
@1cor13Godislove I'm going to go with the hindrance of 2,000 years of being persecuted/tortured/executed, pick your flavor, depending on the period of history. I almost forgot that religion has a monopoly on good, and that people who don't believe in an almighty creator are inherently flawed morally, incapable of participating in charitable activity. I'm sure glad I have you to put me in my place.
@1cor13Godislove What you don't seem to realize is that if all knowledge of God was suddenly wiped from the world and parents had to raise their children based on assimilation with society and the principle of reciprocal altruism (The golden rule), it would happen. There are no "atheist" habitat for humanity type groups because THERE DO NOT NEED TO BE. These types of groups are capable of forming secularly, regardless of the supernatural belief systems of its members, for the good of our race.
@1cor13Godislove Would you like me to create a list of all the horrors that have been done in the name of religion as well? There is no doubt that religions have done many good things. However the number of evils done in the name of a god is equal to if not greater than the positive. Here is the real kicker though, the good deeds, if religion never existed, most of those (or a good number) would of happened anyway, on the flip side none of the evil would happen. better odds with no religion.
Allow me to go on: better life expectancy; the end of the Dark Ages and Inquisition; every single technological advancement. These are all products of science. I'm now tossing a lateral to the next person.
Harris is entertaining, yet this lacks substance, switches opics, ignores facts and focuses on name calling. Basic public health principles like quarantine, protective isolation, cleansing and safe food supply hae been more effective than any medication. That is all found in Leviticus. Newton, Einstein, Mother Teresa, DaVinci are among those gave credit to the Creator for any good they accomplished. Their allegiance can't be separated from their work.
@1cor13Godislove "That is all found in Leviticus" yet was not implemented until the late 19th century. "Newton, Einstein, Mother Teresa, DaVinci are among those gave credit to the Creator for any good they accomplished" please show me where Einstein, who denied the existence of a personal god and was essentially a pantheist, or perhaps a Deist, gave "credit" to "the Creator" for what he did. And mother teresa? gee, who would've thought?
@1cor13Godislove "Their allegiance can't be separated from their work" really? their faith is inextricably bound to their work? So was Hitlers faith in the Creator, as he states time and time again in Mein Kamph, insperable from his work?
I could never get into my religion when I was religious. Now that I am atheist, I can understand and relate to all of this so easily and its actually halarious to hear and find new ways to destroy my ol' religion
A good enough collection of clips of the great Sam Harris, so thank you very much. The only part where I disagree with him, is that he tends to be too conservative about sexual matters.
Sam Harris should be gassed and his families estate auctioned and the proceeds divided up amongst the victims his tribe created.
JesusHitlerForPrez 1 month ago
@JesusHitlerForPrez Why? Because he is Jewish?
writersblock26 1 month ago
@writersblock26 because he recognizes string theory.
JesusHitlerForPrez 4 weeks ago
@writersblock26 Umm...okay.
writersblock26 3 weeks ago
@JesusHitlerForPrez L-O-L
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Let me destroy Sam’s non-sense arguments one by one:
Falsie 2: Cont’d
Even if one accepts Sam’s wrong assertion about human life expectancy, when one include infant mortality and dying through tribal wars, human life expectancy did NOT increased much. Then there is also the question of quality of life (as in brains & thought) not just longevity years.
Again, what exactly is his point, about the supposed increase in life expectancy. What is his CONCLUSION? What is he proving?
arraba99 1 month ago
@arraba99 In the original video he was making a case for our understanding of what is mentally healthy by comparing it to our understanding of what is physically healthy.
The point of my montage was to gather sound bites of Sam Harris where he expresses himself in a way I find fascinating and funny.
VillageAtheist 6 days ago
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arraba99 1 month ago
Let me destroy Sam’s non-sense arguments one by one:
Falsie 2: Cont’d
Many known Greek Philosophers lived to 90 years & some 100+. They did so in full control of their faculty. Ho many of those who live 90 and 100 today have the intellect of a Greek philosopher?
According to Genesis & Quran Noah lived 950 years. In fact there is a story about a mother being sad because her son died at the young age of about 360 years.
arraba99 1 month ago
@arraba99 It's time for someone to take their meds
kissmyass682 1 month ago
@arraba99 can't tell if troll or crazy...
TheRuiner66 1 month ago
@TheRuiner66
Neither; Just a very reasoned person with enough sophistication to NOT look at the world with black & white glasses.
I know more science than you will ever know, unless you hold a Ph.D. in it.
But, will you ever people grow up beyond your adolescence & open your minds. You JUST might learn something & in the process elevate yourself a notch above mindless animals (No insult intended) without conscience purpose in life except to eat and satisfy its instincts.
Cheers
arraba99 4 weeks ago
@arraba99 as you said, "it's a story"
blindedby2monkeys 1 month ago
Let me destroy Sam’s non-sense arguments one by one:
Falsie 2:
Sam says: “when this statute was carved, the average human expectancy was probably 30…”
Wrong again, according to “his” evolutionary theory, earliest human (Neanderthals) lived about 30 years. So by the Greeks or Romans period (when statute was carved) life expectancy was claimed to be 38-48 years.
However based on eastern, Jewish, Arab and Persian history ancient human, lived to the age of hundreds and more.
arraba99 1 month ago
Rats can spread 35 diseases to human (Europe Plague, killed millions). Squirrels may spread few diseases, but usually do not, because they do not live in houses.
As you can see it is not about fluffy tails. As un-profound and mindless as this falsie is, so is Sam’s logic and arguments.
As you can Sam’s arguments are based on untrue, half truths & on generating amusing “jokes” that seems to distract ignorant listeners from his nonsense arguments.
This approach characterises his whole approach.
arraba99 1 month ago
Let me destroy Sam’s non-sense arguments one by one:
Falsie 1:
Sam says: we hate Rats but we think Squirrels are cute because they have fluffy tails so ..not having fluffy tails is really a bad luck for the Rats…” He gets some mindless laughs.
Squirrels eat mostly vegetation, nuts; Rats eat anything, dead meat, grain, filth, human waste.
Squirrels live on trees, bushes; Rats live in sewers, trash, crawl spaces in houses.
arraba99 1 month ago
Reason can not exist without knowledge
If someone knocks down science without knowledge, we call him ignorant. Do not knock down Quran without knowledge. If you are atheist and claim reason; the first dictate of REASON is to know.
Do not knock it down based on Hollywood & media sound bites & the likes of Sam who admits to never reading the Quran or commentators who twist things for their own agenda.
Check all American atheist Dr. Laurence Brown (Episode 3) search for truth
arraba99 1 month ago
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$Lizardleap & @jhall38
Lizardoooo, the flies master thinks he descents from Lizards and it shows. Poor tortured soul, it is not easy having to live with such past. He lost faith in everything; well I might have if I think my ancestors were flies eating Lizards.
@jhall38, the Jahel thinks he descends from Chimps and it also shows. He only understands four letter words are mostly vowels (o, e, a) and the letters h & g. –Chimps speak.
I pray they both find themselves & find the truth
arraba99 1 month ago
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arraba99 1 month ago
god must have been a dumbshit when he wrote the bible
phildirt3 1 month ago
@arraba99 stop spamming
topperheartramada 1 month ago
@topperheartramada
you said: stop spamming
I am not spamming, I was responding to your ignorant and retarded argument to me. But as true of you and your ilk, when your argument is debunked, you resort to deranged attacks, cursing and show your bigotry. Your likes will go the way of the Dinosaurs and sooner than you think.
arraba99 1 month ago
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arraba99 1 month ago
@arraba99 as i suspected. take your mental illness disguised as 'religion' and shove it up your ass. I don't debate muslims. It is pointless.
topperheartramada 1 month ago
@topperheartramada
You do not have to debate Muslims, which I may be or may be not, but you do not have to be vulgar about it. Can you NOT & your ilk communicate with more than four letter words. Is this the limit of your knowledge and intelligence or you just use vulgarity to escape from reasoned and intelligent arguments. It is G-dless thugs like you that create problems in this world not Religion & certainly not Islam. I say Garbage (in brain) Garbage out (of your mouth)
arraba99 1 month ago
@arraba99 That comment was so filled with utter nonsense, but I remain decided not to debate a delusional muslim.
topperheartramada 1 month ago
@topperheartramada
I am not trying to debate you, nor do I see a point in debating your likes. I stay away from people with four letter vocabulary limitations.
I am just trying to inject some civilised behaviour in your primitive adolescent exchanges. Get it.
arraba99 1 month ago
@arraba99 I will not be lectured about adolescent attitudes by someone who believes in the colossal insanity of islam.
topperheartramada 1 month ago
@topperheartramada
I am not lecturing you, i would not wsate my time on your likes. Just behave yourself and be civilised. Islam is way above your horizon to comprehend, as it does not fit within your sound bites capacity intake. Just keep your vulgarity to yourself.
arraba99 1 month ago
@topperheartramada
Speaking of mental illness.
Sweden, with highest percentage of Atheists in the world has highest per capita rate of suicide in the world. There is some correlation.
topperheartramada you need some mental help & religion.
There has been two independent studies in North America that showed Religious people (regardless of which religion they fellow) are happier, more successful, healthier mentally and physically and live longer.
The conclusion is obvious.
arraba99 1 month ago
@arraba99 bullshit get a clue delusional moron
phildirt3 1 month ago
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@phildirt3
Well, well, well, another one just crawled from under a rock.
What is the matter, you do not like me holding a mirror to your face?
And which specie may ask you think you decent from? Monky’s?
Well, I decent from Adam and I am not afraid of mirrors.
If you are embarrassed by whom you claim as ancestors, you should STOP and think about the nonsense of it. But if you insist, you should NOT be embarrassed by your relation to them!
arraba99 1 month ago
when I see him with the white background I always wonder whether he had a nose job...
myrelative 1 month ago
Wow, Wolpe has bought some Acme™ X-raygoggles! He can see through people!
Kewl!
sonykroket 1 month ago
When he compares the burqa women and the porn magazines he made a bit of a mistake. One is the actual dress code for all women in a society. The other is a tiny magazine section in the corner of a 7-eleven.
topperheartramada 2 months ago
@topperheartramada porn is over 10% of the internet. Forget magazines, you can have free HD porn streams on thousands of sites. It's just as valid.
Direnaar 2 months ago
@Direnaar Thanks for the tip. See I always buy magazines and the thing is that people who work in the shop always take them to the toilet and jerk off over the photos and then put them back on the shelf so I constantly have to scrape off the semen from the pages.
topperheartramada 1 month ago
@topperheartramada That is pretty sick :S
Direnaar 1 month ago
@topperheartramada I think you missed the point. Those magazines are "aspirational" to use the marketing jargon, they purportedly depict what women should aim for and their influence extends well beyond the corner of the local 7-eleven. They influence fashion preferences, courtship behaviour, aesthetic preferences and the concept of womanhood and ideas of femininity. To the extent of their readership they are successful in being influencing women.
PiotrThePrimate 1 month ago
@topperheartramada Harris' idea comes from Aristotle that what is good is the mean between two extremes. The extremes in this case are "whore"/"slut" and "nun"/"God's police"/ascetic and I think both Aristotle and Harris are correct that the ideal role for women is somewhere between these two extremes.
PiotrThePrimate 1 month ago
@PiotrThePrimate I think I'm an extremist when it comes to women:)
topperheartramada 1 month ago
@topperheartramada
Sam is babbling and using Fox News style sound bites devoid substance. He plays on people's biases/fear that has been fed to them by an establishment, which has succeeded into turning generations of Americans, except small percentage, into un-thinking sink holes ready to absorb whatever Fox, CNN & Hollywood throws at them. While they are blundering the nation with bogus wars & financial scams. Sad to see America’s great potential gradually ruined by few.
arraba99 1 month ago
@arraba99 i am guessing you are a muslim.
topperheartramada 1 month ago
@topperheartramada
you said " i am guessing you are a muslim."
I may or may not be, what is your point, please.
arraba99 1 month ago
@arraba99 You're trying to hit on three different topics at once here, attempting to criticize everything from America to Fox News, but you are failing to substantiate your criticism of Sam Harris with any hard evidence.
Muffinmanv2 1 month ago
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arraba99 1 month ago
@Muffinmanv2
Sam (or others) point to a perceived “weakness or issue” in faith & theology, believe in G-d, G-d attributes; religion, its attributes, teachings & benefits and those who profess in them without providing substantive supporting arguments beyond some “witty” entertaining lines. Sam (others) quickly & distractingly jump from one relatively distinct topic to another as if they are one. They are not. Each has its contextual premise, assumption, arguments …etc. Cont’d
arraba99 1 month ago
@Muffinmanv2
The easiest thing is to poke some (perceived or real) hole in a concept or premise, but proving it or refuting is another issue. There are three fundamental problems with Sam’s and most Atheist approach to “debate”: 1) They think they can poke “holes” & religion has to disprove them and they do not have to prove anything. E.g. If they expect religion to prove their premise of G-d existence, the same principle Atheists has to prove their opposing premise. Cont’d
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@Muffinmanv2
If I really want to debunk most or everything he is saying, I would need several pages to say the least, but I will try if you have thestomach for it. A premise (as in theorem, in Sam’s case a sound bite) may require a line or one single statements to state, proving it, which he does not do, require pages/a book. Similarly refuting it may also require pages. And this is what I find fundamentally wrong with Sam’s approach & the ongoing dialog (on this forum). Cont’d
arraba99 1 month ago
@arraba99 You can stop trying to blind me with your rhetoric -- loaded with wikipedia inspired vocabulary. There's no need for it at all. I read three comments of you essentially explaining that you don't agree with Harris's persuasive style of arguing. Why do you disagree with what Sam Harris is arguing and give it to me straight; 'several pages' are not needed either.
Muffinmanv2 1 month ago
No, really though, if you don't like this video you may want to see a psychiatrist.
BER2ERKER 2 months ago
All I can say is... fuckin' Sam fuckin' Harris SON!
BER2ERKER 2 months ago
This video will need an update due to his brilliance in the WLC debate.
FunkyWhitePimp 2 months ago 5
@FunkyWhitePimp Do you have a link for that? :)
AxeHomeless 2 months ago
@AxeHomeless Type ''The God Debate II: WIlliam Lane Craig vs. Sam Harris''. YouTube has a video of the whole debate lasting just over 2 hours.
FunkyWhitePimp 2 months ago
@FunkyWhitePimp Straight to my watchlist, thanks, brother :)
AxeHomeless 2 months ago
4:45
samcarr6 2 months ago
The incoherent arguments from the "village atheists" has the trademark of strawman arguments. I do not see how any rational thinging person can find any substance in Harris arguments.
Surfxeo 2 months ago
@Surfxeo then tour critical thinking skills are not good enough. He does proper, VERIFIABLE arguments. WLC only does "based on my experience" arguments.Go ahead and verify them. I'll save you some time, you won't be able to. You haven't read your Bible well enough.
Direnaar 2 months ago
@Direnaar I already have verified them to know that his hot air has no bases in history. I just go to the earliest and best sources to verify what Harris believe is just nonsense. It is so shallow and without rational. It is at the level simpleton and is extremely prejudiced.
Surfxeo 1 month ago
@Surfxeo
Agree. that is what I thought.
arraba99 1 month ago
I LOVE HIM.
dancer8164 3 months ago
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guysovereign 3 months ago
One can believe in God (Yahweh) if he likes, but please... don't use the Bible as your basis for belief. It just doesn't work.
DrTorture28 3 months ago
Awesome!
caporalchef4 3 months ago
While I agree with all the points, I can't help but feel that they are diminished , by the fact that they are snippets of the full speeches.
NZTritium 3 months ago
fuck predictive text... time*
buktomsin 3 months ago
dumbfucks.... Sam Harris debates Jews all the timber its in this fucking highlight reel!
buktomsin 3 months ago
Sam is a demagoge And playing as a atheist. He is inteligent, educated And at the same time ignorant and is in need Of wisdom.
Wisdom is a virtue And come from humility. Sam Harris strives with his little, limited mind to penetrate the mystery of God, dignity And destiny Of mankind And so on...
He says that there are no evidences as to the existence Of God! Let him look at the mirror And see the reflection Of God's existence in himself as well as in any creature, even in those who deny God.
franciszek8D 3 months ago
@franciszek8D u should really go and see a shrink.
theant8899 3 months ago
@franciszek8D Are you seriously claiming wisdom comes from pondering unsolvable mysteries which you yourself make up? I would agree wisdom comes from pondering deep things, but the idea of a God is not one of them, because it is plain silly, and it does not provide any guidance whatsoever.
And claiming to have knowledge of a god is maybe the least humble thing you can do, because the only reason people are doing that is because they want to be 'special', separate from everything else.
Superslemmet 3 months ago
@franciszek8D You don't need a shrink, you need an education in grammar.
Falexxx 3 months ago
Sam The Man. A one-punch heavy-weight with religious ignorance in his sights.
Go Sam.
USERNAMEfieldempty 3 months ago 14
" Yes, naturally stupid are all who are unaware of God, and who, from good things seen, have not been able to discover Him-who-is, or, by studying the works, have not recognised the Artificer. And if they have been impressed by their power and energy, let them deduce from these how much mightier is he that has formed them, since through the grandeur and beauty of the creatures we may, by analogy, contemplate their Author."
From book Of Wisdom
franciszek8D 3 months ago
@franciszek8D Then, with respect, in order to contemplate the author it is the very LEAST you can do to try to understand the world that He has made available to you. In other words, rational, rigorous and critical investigation.
ritchloui 3 months ago
When I look at you I see you might be Elvis....bwahahaha. 4:50-7:00 comedy gold.
lyndaek99 4 months ago
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Hey Dr. Harris, when are you going to provide us with a sneering polemic against Judaism, as you have done in the case of both Christianity and Islam since, as we all know, you think that all religion is bullshit?
Oh, I forgot, Jewish fanaticism gets a free pass, being that you're a nice Jewish boy who wouldn't dream of saying anything that might call into question the prevailing myth of the Holy Chosen Pimples and the need for us all to support their blood-soaked apartheid state for Jew ONLY!
djs259 4 months ago
That Elvis bit is a brilliant comeback!
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lightandbeautiful 5 months ago
Sam Harris is a nueroscientist. Not a neurologist.
will4fang 5 months ago 26
@will4fang Sam has more well being in his head, than but a handful of the MDs I have
consulted in my 63 years, during 40 of which, MDs enjoyed the assurance and counsel of such as myself and Sam. I am but a person who passed his ASCP boards, one test, on one day. MDs rarely perform science due to the lack of having a significant original, or imaginative thought in their heads, beyond spider man. MDs, by majority, are no more than the technicians who "practice" the science they supposedly learn.
somthinjustaintright 1 month ago
He is a prolific writer. I am looking forward to his next book about lying.
guysovereign 5 months ago
@guysovereign Yes indeed. Lying. What an interesting subject. Deception is probably one of the MOST important pillars of survival. It goes wrong, of course, when one deceives oneself.
ritchloui 3 months ago
@ritchloui
You're an idiot.
guysovereign 3 months ago
@guysovereign Clearly my comment was WAY over your head. You're probably another deluded dogmatist with no sense of breadth or depth and certainly no irony. You are otherwise known as a cretin. Read my comment again, and if you STILL don't get it, please don't projectile your toxic, superstitious garbage in my direction.
ritchloui 3 months ago
You atheist should throw God a 'Thanks' every so often. Without Him you guys wouldn't have anything worthwhile to complain about.
johhnycarlos 5 months ago
The second one was epic.
iowntwocats 5 months ago
The Elvis bit was delightful.
madjimms 5 months ago
Tehnubzor!
300 hundreds years Of persucution Of Christians from very beginning proves that Jesus was not a myth but a Real, historical person.
Moreover if people are decided to suffer And die for what they believe proves - that they were shure that what they believe is truth. Nobody dies for what he or she believes may be true or may not be true. I would never suffer for sumething what I believe is not certain.
franciszek8D 6 months ago
I NEED as shirt that says, "I am the TED BUNDY of String Theory".
TheLockon00 6 months ago
Man! How can we prove spiritual realities? How much or what is the mass Of the truth? Love or justice, goodness?
God is Spirit then He is beyond materiał qualities we are dealing with in Physical world.
We can have some proofs and similarities. from our own spirituality but they are not for those who want to prove as scientists tendencje to prove.
That is why we need faith.
franciszek8D 6 months ago
From the very beginning Christians were persecuted. However they believed apostles And therefore they were willing to die. Over three hundreds years Of persecution is a hard, solid proof that something unusal happened in Jerusalem. Do not think that in that time people were naive so much that they believed in absurdity.
franciszek8D 6 months ago
@franciszek8D "From the very beginning Christians were persecuted...Over three hundreds years Of persecution is a hard, solid proof that something unusal happened in Jerusalem."
Deuteronomy 13:6-11, 2 Chronicles 15:13, and other verses indicate that Christianity was/is a "join, or else" cult, for non-believers. A recent survey indicated that atheists are the most hated group in America(80% +/- Christian nation). Does this mean atheists are correct? I feel that persecution proves nothing.
tehnubzor 6 months ago
@tehnubzor Christians were persecuted for 300 years. Atheists were persecuted for the following 1700.
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@RejechtedGaming If you're a freethinker, I'm on your team. My first sentence was an excerpt I was rebutting. Sorry if I wasn't clear. ~_^
tehnubzor 5 months ago
Jesus rose from the grave! Why do so many people believe in resurrected Christ.
1. Do you think His apostles were stupid And naive. First they refused to believe. They believed after they had seen Him many times as a living person. One Of them said: "I will believe if I put my fingers into His wounds".
This certitude that Jesus really rose from the grave -
gave them courage And motivation to die for such truth. All Of them died as martyrs. Is it possible to die cruel death for what is not tru
franciszek8D 6 months ago
Sam! Humility, humility because reality is much more mysterious.
The Bible was written by some people inspired by God, who lived in their time. They had limited knowledge And God nevertheless used their limited knowledge to convey some immortal ideas like the necessity Of morale, love, truth... God did not reveal them present scientific truths, it was not necessary. How did they believe God in that primitive time if He revealed them that not the Sun but the Earth rotates around the Sun. Peop
franciszek8D 6 months ago
One of the reasons I respect Sam Harris is that he seems near infinitely patient when debating, as far as I have seen he has never tried to shout over an opponent never used stick men arguments or any number of ridiculous debating tricks and red herrings. Humor is a useful tool but he doesn't over do it. Sam Harris is the man
mrgejwaites 7 months ago
No doubt Sam Harris is a brilliant man, with a genuine theological point. However, I believe most of points are trite and only point to the lunacy of religious doctrine, and not to the existence of a higher power.
rigby333 7 months ago
@rigby333 I agree, his arguments do not focus on disproving the existence of a broader sense God. Most of the time he is more precise in that he confront the major religions for providing a framework which (more often than most moderates like to acknowledge) functions as a basis for immoral and sometimes violent acts by extremists. I mean, in contrast he has mentioned Jainism to illustrate that religious extremism doesn't necessarily lead to violence.
VillageAtheist 7 months ago 12
@VillageAtheist, no scientist (Sam included) will say that they are trying or will try to disprove god, as it has been said one billion times it is impossible to disprove anything. What people like Sam do is show how the universe and its existence does not need a god to begin or to function.
bazzymushpea123 6 months ago
@VillageAtheist You can't disprove god. Well, you can a bit if god is precisely defined. Sam and other high profile atheists therefore do not attempt to disprove god as they hold no burden of proof. It sufficient to only support your positive truth claim that the evidence proved by theists for their positive truth claim is insufficient for a thinking person to hold such a belief.
MrShysterme 3 months ago
@8:30 Newton for the win. Probably the greatest mind in recorded history for which we have records of achievement. It can be reiterated enough how profound his contributions were. Without him, we likely would just be getting radio. That's a guess, but it is fun to think about.
MrShysterme 3 months ago
@rigby333 Agreed, but as unsatisfying as it might be considering deism is a position one could have a serious debate over. The majority of people he debates are those of a specific religion. Deism in itself really doesn't effect the world massively, at least as far as I'm aware.
mrgejwaites 7 months ago
@rigby333 You must've missed something. Sam Harris is an atheist, so yes he does point out the ridiculousness of religion quite lucidly.
nurseratchit 7 months ago
@nurseratchit There are other argument that could be made in regards to existence of a higher power, however. Not everyone who believes in a higher power believes in Adam and Eve and Noah's Arc and all these other ludicrous stories inside a religious text. He uses these as a crutch to make a more general attack on the existence of a God at all. However, there are arguments which could be made by a deist, which he fails to address.
rigby333 7 months ago
@rigby333 Since when did it become his job to dispute every possible belief system people might hold? I'm not really sure what your point is. He's an atheist...he does not believe in any gods not just the Christian god. Go ahead and make your other arguments for a higher power if you wish, but don't expect atheists to be moved by it. Why do you consider it an attack to not believe in a being for whom there exists no evidence?
nurseratchit 7 months ago
@nurseratchit Well he seems to have a very strong opinion about the end of organized religion. It seems if someone wishes to take that stand, they should address any practical argument in support of a higher power or human spirituality. I never said I find his arguments to be an attack, rather they just don't really resonate with me because they seem to be of common sense. There are other more pertinent and relevant discussions to be had.
rigby333 7 months ago
@rigby333 actually you did say "He uses these as a crutch to make a more general attack on the existence of a God..." That's fine if it doesn't resonate with you and your dislike of common sense. Why are you even here if you don't feel the topic is pertinent? What do you consider a 'practical argument in support of a higher power?' This is not the same as human spirituality and in fact he has stated that atheists can have 'spiritual' experiences. Your arguments make no sense.
nurseratchit 7 months ago
@nurseratchit I find that your lack of reading comprehension makes no sense. I VIRTUALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAYS, BUT THINK THAT HIS ARGUMENTS ARE COP OUTS! I just think that he could address the issue of a the existence of God in a more thorough fashion, rather than simply using the lunacy of religious doctrine as evidence against it. This is the last post I'm making though. The irony is that you're as blindly following Sam Harris' words as a Christian does the words of the Bible.
rigby333 7 months ago
@rigby333 You agree with virtually everything Sam Harris says and then say that I'm the one following his every word?! All caps and rudeness do not bring any more sense to your claims. If you want to have Sam address the existence of God more thoroughly, then why not challenge him to a debate yourself? Otherwise there are numerous videos and essays you can find where he does just that. You keep saying the same thing over and over, yet bring forward nothing of substance yourself.
nurseratchit 7 months ago
@rigby333
There is no evidence, nor sound logical justification, for the existence of a higher power, even less so for one which has any opinion on the homo sapien species. Until this changes, there is no reason for him to try to disprove anything, because it is an unfounded, unsupported and supernatural claim.
So you're right, he spends more time focusing on the violent and absurd effects of religious doctrine, because, whereas the dogma is simply myth, the followers of these cults are real.
leftovers0 7 months ago
@rigby333 I think attempting to dismiss a higher power outright would immediately pull the blinds for the more religiously devoted , forcing them to stop processing his assertions which would derail his intention. The religious are quick to cease listening lest they go to Hell for being an audience to such heresy.
I believe his method has good reasoning.
niltomega 6 months ago
@rigby333 Harris is up against Theism-or the theistic god--Not deism. He simply points out very large problems with viewing the world in that way. There are definitely higher powers--such as gamma ray bursts- or that fact that there are planets literally trillions of times larger than ours. I have no problem with people who want to believe there is a higher power of some sort--but I have a huge problem with someone who thinks theres a higher power and that it cares about, or even created us.
pawndominance1 6 months ago
@pawndominance1 Well given that I believe in a higher power, I must logically believe that the higher power created us. Whether or not humans are special by the higher power's standards, or whether the higher power even has a consciousness such as that, I am not sure. I don't know if I believe in heaven or hell, but I definitely believe in a creator of the universe, and the embodiment of that creator in the universe collectively.
rigby333 6 months ago
@rigby333 how can you look at how insignificant our planet and our galaxy is and still think theres a being that created the universe AND intended for the homo sapien species to be the focal point. How do you reconcile that contradiction?
pawndominance1 6 months ago
@pawndominance1 Well that's a good question, which is primarily why I'm not entirely sure. However, to play devils advocate, let me ask you this: what kind of a God which values faith would simply walk amongst us, plain for all to see? I can't imagine a being of supreme knowledge and power to simply grace us with his presence, or even provide irrefutable evidence of his existence or nonexistence.
However, as I mentioned earlier, I don't necessarily believe humans are the focal point.
rigby333 6 months ago
@rigby333 but thats my point--no god would value faith because even humans can see that its just not something to value. Its not courageous or selfless or helpful or anything--With your other point, I'll grant your idea that god wouldnt want his existence to be proven etc...but that doesnt explain why he would put up a bunch of clones and have morality be a multiple choice test-where your answer is more correlated to where your born than anything else. America=christ, India=Buddhism etc.
pawndominance1 6 months ago
@rigby333 To go a little bit further, i believe that I'll bring up the capability of reason or rationale. I know the viewers of this video will love this, and keep in mind I do not subscribe to any religious doctrine. However, humans have been purported to be created in God's own image. I have imagined that not be in a physical sense, but rather our ability to reason. God is supposedly omniscient, thus has supreme rationale. Humans contain rationale, thus we are closest to God.
rigby333 6 months ago
One last disclaimer however: I don't not necessarily believe human beings are special beings, or that the creator of the universe has any favor for humans. I'm not even suggesting the the creator of the universe is capable of favoring anything. I don't necessarily believe that there is a heaven and hell, or that God is omniscient or omnipotent. The only thing that I wish affirm is that I believe there is a creator of the universe.
rigby333 6 months ago
@rigby333 how can any human appeal to the existence of a higher power (god). its completely outside our observational boundry, we dont have enough evidence to say wether god does or does not exist.
gigabowser8000 5 months ago
@rigby333 You need to keep listening and reading then, but how do you expect him to disprove a "god?"
hockey91ninjawarrior 4 months ago
@rigby333 I don't think Sam Harris wants talks to people about Agnosticism, he wants to talk about the things we know as a species right now.
Krooksbane 4 months ago
@rigby333 Does it always have to be about proving or disproving? Lighten up and enjoy Sam's wit why don't you - and stop calling his points trite, because they *all* expose the lunacy of religion, and that's a good thing.
hznfrst 4 months ago
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MrShysterme 3 months ago
sam harris is funny as well as being a very intelligent understander of nature.
kalalaud 7 months ago
@1cor13Godislove Madre, ActionAid International, International Relief Teams, AmeriCares, Doctors Without Borders, Partners In Health, Humanist Charities of the American Humanist Association, Direct Relief International, and the American Red Cross. These are just a FEW of the secular charities I found on a Haiti relief site.
revelwoodie 7 months ago
Wow. This is so good. Everything he says a child knows instinctively. I'm sharing this with everyone I know
MISTERASMODEUS 7 months ago
What a hero.
89cushing 7 months ago
@Grands1am lol dewd hahahahahahhahahahaha!!!
buktomsin 8 months ago
5:45 "Don't make me a washer-woman"
Typically magnanimous of the religious man
grands1am 8 months ago
7:49 and 7:57: NINJA!!!!
SoggyPoridge 8 months ago
What event is @1:50 at?
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One Book to rule them all,
One Book to burn them,
One Book to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them.
Jayjon81 8 months ago
@iliveon: Don't Ignore the facts. Look at what is done by believers in the Merciful Redeemer: A21 campaign, C2BU, Compassion Intl, World Vision, Sisters of Mercy, Samaritan's Purse, Habitat for Humanity, Rescue Missions, Teen Challenge and more. What good has come out of YOUR worldview?
1cor13Godislove 8 months ago
@1cor13Godislove Secularism and Naturalism FTW!
VillageAtheist 8 months ago 7
@VillageAtheist I too have quite the intellectual man crush on Sam. In your description of the video you call him a neurologist. He is not a MD. He has a PhD in Neuroscience. I hate to be a sticker, but there is a difference.
Yours in FSM, Dan.
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@1cor13Godislove don't forget all the charity Hamas and Hezbollah engage in (they do quite a bit). See the problem? good.
BillKiernan 8 months ago
@1cor13Godislove Those are examples of ALTRUISM, a behaviour trait present in humans and almost all social animals, even those that lack higher cognitive functions similar ours. Just watch Battle at Kruger to see a perfect example of this. The buffalo in the video did not have moral guidance from a deity or scripture to perform an act of altruism, rather it is ingrained in them to help those of their group in peril, even if it means facing the teeth and claws of a lion.
SoggyPoridge 8 months ago
@1cor13Godislove. Those benefits, are not outweighed by the negativity of Christianity. Those intentions of those actions, are not charity, but to advanced the religion, so thus they are selfish, and not a charity, but more of an exchange to sell the religion of Christianity. Atheist, do charity, for charity, not to advance a religion.
KevZen2000 8 months ago
@1cor13Godislove Modern medicine
tybolini2 8 months ago
@1cor13Godislove Doctors without Borders, DonorsChoose, The Nature Conservancy, Oxfam International, The SEED foundation, United Nations Children's Fund, Wheelchair Foundation, Planned Parenthood Federation of America ...
HrvRoy 8 months ago
@1cor13Godislove
Chalking up the good vs bad deeds of each group is to completely ignore the actual issues.
Atheism / "your world view" as you put it simply means looking at holy texts and their claims and finding them to be insufficient.
Your US vs THEM mentality is the REAL ISSUE. Even modern atheists have this problem.
Assaultpredator 8 months ago
@1cor13Godislove
Atheists don't do good things to promote the lack of belief in a god, most are good for the sake of being good. Contrary to what is told in the bible, humans aren't inherently evil. In fact, most animals aren't. Just because people choose to do good things and attribute their gracious actions to the belief in a god, doesn't mean those same actions can't be performed for completely secular reasons.
There are good and bad people on both ends of the spectrum.
jiminysocks 8 months ago
@1cor13Godislove GOD IS LOVE? Children who mock their parents will have their eyes plucked out by ravens and eaten by eagles, parents should be willing to kill their children for God, sometimes God kills children for misbehaving and my personal favourite....Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. AND YOU WORSHIP THIS SICK TWISTED DEITY AND THINK HE IS LOVE?
MusicStudyMan 7 months ago
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@1cor13Godislove The United States, for one.
Not to mention greek philosphers (like Democritus, Epicurus), other important figures of this nature (Jefferson, Franklin) and just about every scientific development in history.
There's more, I'm just feeling lazy.
Galardenta 7 months ago
@1cor13Godislove The Enlightenment, the United States of America, humanism, and charity without god holding their sandwich hostage.
ciaochowbella 7 months ago
@1cor13Godislove I'm going to go with the hindrance of 2,000 years of being persecuted/tortured/executed, pick your flavor, depending on the period of history. I almost forgot that religion has a monopoly on good, and that people who don't believe in an almighty creator are inherently flawed morally, incapable of participating in charitable activity. I'm sure glad I have you to put me in my place.
RejechtedGaming 5 months ago in playlist Sam Harris - Best Bits
@1cor13Godislove What you don't seem to realize is that if all knowledge of God was suddenly wiped from the world and parents had to raise their children based on assimilation with society and the principle of reciprocal altruism (The golden rule), it would happen. There are no "atheist" habitat for humanity type groups because THERE DO NOT NEED TO BE. These types of groups are capable of forming secularly, regardless of the supernatural belief systems of its members, for the good of our race.
RejechtedGaming 5 months ago in playlist Sam Harris - Best Bits
@1cor13Godislove Would you like me to create a list of all the horrors that have been done in the name of religion as well? There is no doubt that religions have done many good things. However the number of evils done in the name of a god is equal to if not greater than the positive. Here is the real kicker though, the good deeds, if religion never existed, most of those (or a good number) would of happened anyway, on the flip side none of the evil would happen. better odds with no religion.
blahblahreadabook 4 months ago
@1cor13Godislove
Medecins Sans Frontiers immediately springs to mind.
Oh, then there's democracy, medicine, physics, chemistry, engineering.
I could go on. Do you need me to?
brightonduder 4 months ago
Allow me to go on: better life expectancy; the end of the Dark Ages and Inquisition; every single technological advancement. These are all products of science. I'm now tossing a lateral to the next person.
AtheistinFundyLand 4 months ago
Harris is entertaining, yet this lacks substance, switches opics, ignores facts and focuses on name calling. Basic public health principles like quarantine, protective isolation, cleansing and safe food supply hae been more effective than any medication. That is all found in Leviticus. Newton, Einstein, Mother Teresa, DaVinci are among those gave credit to the Creator for any good they accomplished. Their allegiance can't be separated from their work.
1cor13Godislove 8 months ago
@1cor13Godislove "That is all found in Leviticus" yet was not implemented until the late 19th century. "Newton, Einstein, Mother Teresa, DaVinci are among those gave credit to the Creator for any good they accomplished" please show me where Einstein, who denied the existence of a personal god and was essentially a pantheist, or perhaps a Deist, gave "credit" to "the Creator" for what he did. And mother teresa? gee, who would've thought?
BillKiernan 8 months ago
@1cor13Godislove "Their allegiance can't be separated from their work" really? their faith is inextricably bound to their work? So was Hitlers faith in the Creator, as he states time and time again in Mein Kamph, insperable from his work?
BillKiernan 8 months ago
As to the starving children God wants us to solve the problem, you and me!
What do we do to make the world better?
God is not responsible for our laziness, negligence, wrong doing. We are gifted with free will. Let us use it for our own and others benefit.
franciszek8D 8 months ago
I could never get into my religion when I was religious. Now that I am atheist, I can understand and relate to all of this so easily and its actually halarious to hear and find new ways to destroy my ol' religion
iliveon 8 months ago
A good enough collection of clips of the great Sam Harris, so thank you very much. The only part where I disagree with him, is that he tends to be too conservative about sexual matters.
erosmangr74 9 months ago
7 people ARE Ted Bundy.
mcadamsdj 9 months ago
i really like the way he thought but then i saw how he was fooled about 911 and couldnt think and find the truth
i don't believe idiotic claims without evidence
mHalfLife 10 months ago
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mHalfLife 10 months ago
Thanks fort his nice compilation , great video.
zauii89 10 months ago