My point is, I have reservations about calling it torture if college students are trying it out on themselves in their free time. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it sucks.
The fact that waterboarding is even up for debate... I mean, what form of "torture" do a bunch of glib college students decide to just randomly sign up to "try out"? And you just walk away from it and go about your day. Later on they probably went to a party and got drunk and bragged about how horrible it was.
@golpher93 You're right golpher93 what they're doing is hardly considered torture because they can stop whenever they want. The real torture comes from its contant, extended use. Imagine the intense psychological panic you get from drowning and prolong that over 2 minutes. You can bet that would cause psycholgical damage especially when used many, many times. It can also cause damage to the lungs, brain damage and actual drowning. You should try it out for yourself before you talk shit.
Really? Would you last longer than these "glib college students"? It's very easy to say it's not a form of torture when you don't have to endure it. No, I don't think it's up there with hot iron pokers or tearing out finger nails, but it sure seems to be a "lesser" form of it.
@mrr1mrr1, I can tell you after being waterboarded I think that it shouldn't be used for interrogation because it just pissed me off.
You have to trick the suspects with mind games and word play especially if they aren't too bright.
You must watch 24 too much. The Jack Bauer method is cool, cheap and easy but it doesn't work. Personally, I think we need to reserve the torture methods for bigger fish AFTER they've been convicted like Bin Laden.
I think we could probably place terrorist suspects in a place where they are removed from society and taken away from their peers. I think this place is called prison. And placing someone in prison is probably more morally sound than engaging in an act the American Government convicted Japanese officers for doing in World War II. Maybe we could do that.
wow, what great research - this may just prove that an interrogation technique used on terrorist suspects might be not nice. Perhaps we need to create a nicer interrogation method - perhaps we should just ask people very nicely or explain why being a terrorist is bad so they feel really guilty and confess everything. Maybe they could look into the shocking possibility that guns can be harmful or into the rumour that falling off a motorbike at a high speed can also be detrimental to your health.
My point is, I have reservations about calling it torture if college students are trying it out on themselves in their free time. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it sucks.
golpher93 6 months ago
@golpher93 High school students cut themselves all the time, too, but would we not consider that torture? Just something to think about,
jlettuce07 3 months ago
The fact that waterboarding is even up for debate... I mean, what form of "torture" do a bunch of glib college students decide to just randomly sign up to "try out"? And you just walk away from it and go about your day. Later on they probably went to a party and got drunk and bragged about how horrible it was.
golpher93 1 year ago
@golpher93 You're right golpher93 what they're doing is hardly considered torture because they can stop whenever they want. The real torture comes from its contant, extended use. Imagine the intense psychological panic you get from drowning and prolong that over 2 minutes. You can bet that would cause psycholgical damage especially when used many, many times. It can also cause damage to the lungs, brain damage and actual drowning. You should try it out for yourself before you talk shit.
wizkeyzero 1 year ago
@golpher93
Really? Would you last longer than these "glib college students"? It's very easy to say it's not a form of torture when you don't have to endure it. No, I don't think it's up there with hot iron pokers or tearing out finger nails, but it sure seems to be a "lesser" form of it.
Ansset76 6 months ago
@mrr1mrr1, I can tell you after being waterboarded I think that it shouldn't be used for interrogation because it just pissed me off.
You have to trick the suspects with mind games and word play especially if they aren't too bright.
You must watch 24 too much. The Jack Bauer method is cool, cheap and easy but it doesn't work. Personally, I think we need to reserve the torture methods for bigger fish AFTER they've been convicted like Bin Laden.
prezjackie 2 years ago
@mrr1mmr1:
I think we could probably place terrorist suspects in a place where they are removed from society and taken away from their peers. I think this place is called prison. And placing someone in prison is probably more morally sound than engaging in an act the American Government convicted Japanese officers for doing in World War II. Maybe we could do that.
KommisarKowl 2 years ago
wow, what great research - this may just prove that an interrogation technique used on terrorist suspects might be not nice. Perhaps we need to create a nicer interrogation method - perhaps we should just ask people very nicely or explain why being a terrorist is bad so they feel really guilty and confess everything. Maybe they could look into the shocking possibility that guns can be harmful or into the rumour that falling off a motorbike at a high speed can also be detrimental to your health.
mrr1mrr1 2 years ago