John 3:16 and Eternally Secure Salvation

[DreamsofMajesty]

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[brainouty]

@DreamsofMajesty Um, the Greek word onoma is translated as 'name', but it means Title, Reputation, Office, Role, and only rarely means the person's personal name. You kinda need to do some more homework, k?

[DreamsofMajesty]

@brainouty

Well, seeing as you've 'done your homework' maybe you could explain why the Apostles baptized in Jesus' name throughout the Book of Acts. Are you saying that they didn't 'do their homework' either? lol

[brainouty]

@DreamsofMajesty Actually, Jesus is a Title too, equals 'God Saves'. And the baptising was merely with water, a CEREMONY OF IDENTIFICATION (Greek word baptisw, used of Hoplites graduating their 'spears' with pigs blood, a ceremony invented by Alexander the Great).

Getting wet saves no one, no matter in whose name it is. And to baptise was just a ceremony advertising the Gospel.

You really don't know anything. So I'll just walk away. Bye.

[DreamsofMajesty]

@brainouty

Actually Jesus' means YHWH is salvation or YHWH savior. A bit more specific than just 'God saves'. Furthermore, Scripture teaches that baptism is a lot more than what you seem to think it is. Its not about 'getting wet'. Its about being buried with Christ and arising to newness of life. Its a commandment to obey and a privilege, not an optional thing for show or advertising.

Mark 16:16, Romans 6:4, 1 Peter 3:21, etc.

You can be as condescending as you like. Scripture still wins.

[DreamsofMajesty]

@brainouty

BRITANICA ENCYCLOPEDIA The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son & Holy Ghost by the Catholic Church in the Second Century. – 11th Edit., Vol. 3, ppg. 365-366.

CANNEY ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION  The early church always baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus until development of the Trinity Doctrine in the Second Century.

[DreamsofMajesty]

@brainouty

HASTINGS ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION

Christian baptism was administered using the words, "in the name of Jesus." Vol. 2, pg. 377. Baptism was always in the name of Lord Jesus until time of Justin Martyr when Triune formula used. Vol. 2, pg. 389. NAME was an ancient synonym for "person." Payment was always made in the name of some person referring to ownership. Therefore one being baptized in Jesus’ name became His personal property. "Ye are Christ’s." Vol. 2, pg. 377 on Acts 2:38.2

[jacksmack77]

Great video! 

[brainouty]

@jacksmack77 glad you enjoyed it!

[tramoliter]

And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:16-17) So do we believe Jesus or not? He says keep the commandments you say...Just believe. Im off to toss a coin on this one. Do I believe the Bible or you? Ill bet you believe Sunday is the Lords day as well.

[brainouty]

@tramoliter Again you prove yourself carnal, tramoliter. When you write, 'Ill bet you believe Sunday is the Lord's day as well', you prove carnal. Were the Spirit IN you, then you'd know what my belief was. And I don't believe Sunday is the Lord's Day, because HE said EVERY day is His day.

So it's beginning to look like what started as a promising conversation between us, is really a Titus 3:10 situation. So 2Jn9-11 to you. I'll no longer reply to your posts. God will.

[tramoliter]

@brainouty you are messed up. How is "believing the bible" carnal? Jesus confirmed the new covenant by sprinkling his blood and water on the actual arc of the covenant in the new testament. Keep the commandments "he" said. How is doing what he said "carnal" ? Your doctrine has its origins in the apostate Sunday keeping church. The test commandment is still binding. Do you even know what the bible says the "test" commandment is?

[brainouty]

@brainouty TO EVERYONE ELSE: you know the Holy Spirit would always counsel that one DO HIS HOMEWORK before saying a thing. Else, one bears false witness. So the one who asserts what are another's beliefs ABSENT HOMEWORK -- as tramoliter did here -- is not at that moment, filled with the Spirit.

So do you then warn the person of his carnality? Here, I must answer a wrong 'bet'; here, I did warn. Would rather not have to say such things. But sometimes you gotta fire the gun.

[tramoliter]

@brainouty you dont even know what "carnal" means. These video are so far off of what scripture teaches its a joke. Everyday is not the "Sabbath" You sound like a Jehovas witness with that doctrine. Faith with out works is a dead faith. Thats in the Bible. So to counter that you say Im carnal?!? that ike me saying youre"polkadot. Thats rediculous. You post videos that lead people away from "scriptual truth" Repent.

[OneJohnFiveTwelve]

@brainouty

Unfortunately I am unable to watch the video as Youtube demands that I upgrade my Adobe Flash Player (I won't because the license you have to agree to permits them to put any spyware/adware they want on your computer)

I have caught just some of the comments fllying around, and I have to point out that you cannot take a single verse and assume that from it you can understand the whole gospel without reference to the rest of the written Word of God (more...)

[OneJohnFiveTwelve]

(con't)

John 3:16 is no exception. As James 2:19 says, 'the devils also believe, and tremble'.

You said, 'there is no repentance to salvation', but Paul wrote, 'Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.' (2 Cor 7:10)

So there are two kinds of repentance; one kind that God grants (see for example 2 Tim 2:25:26) and a worldly regret (such as Judas suffered) that leads to death.

Hope this helps your undertanding.

[OneJohnFiveTwelve]

@brainouty,

Unfortunately I am unable to watch the video as Youtube demands that I upgrade my Adobe Flash Player (I won't because the license you have to agree to permits them to put any spyware/adware they want on your computer)

I have caught just some of the comments fllying around, and I have to point out that you cannot take a single verse and assume that from it you can understand the whole gospel without reference to the rest of the written Word of God (more...)

[brian9monty]

LOL!

[brian9monty]

initial salvation and faith toward final salvation. Initial salvation is not guaranteed... your faith can slip...you can fall from grace.. you can die spiritually. This is taking into account the ENTIRE bible not ignoring any of it. The way so many others do. This guy even ignores repentance unto salvation.

The bible says the way is not easy...there are conditions. Jesus said you must take up your cross. This guy has ignored more than half the bible. Im right because I believe ALL of scripture

[brian9monty]

sometimes translations from the greek and hebrew cant tell how the word is being used by the writer. believe is head or heart. you said believe is the verb. A verb is action...believing is the use.... action belief...not getting salvation....working faith!!!!

[brainouty]

No, brian. There is only ONE salvation. And CHRIST bought it, not your faith. So the amount of faith which is needed to be saved is one dot above none. At that very moment you are forever and totally saved. THAT is what John 3:16 says in the Greek.

There is no such thing as a head versus heart belief. Belief is a function of the soul, just like you can't pick up a fork without faith.

'working faith' is an oxymoron. And only morons use it.

[brainouty]

And brain, there is no repentance to salvation, Greek verb metanoew means to change your mind about CHRIST, I cover that in other videos.

There are no conditions to salvation except BELIEVE, which I also cover in the GOSPEL playlist. So you are selling a false WORKS Gospel which saves no one. Maybe you are not saved.

To be saved, ONLY believe that Jesus the Christ paid for your sins, and I'll see you in heaven!

[brainouty]

For brian, if you had the Holy Spirit in you -- and you do not -- you'd not call me a 'he'. So it's YOU who are ignoring half of Scripture, and you can't even tell gender of a person making a video, so you have no Bible perspicacity, either.

So what you say, is not valid.

[2besavedcom]

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There is a great audio there for you to listen to. You will come away asking many questions.

Blessings

Thanks Ben

[Blades265]

James 2:19-20 "You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that-- and shudder. You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless?"

James 2:24 "You see that people are justified by what they do and not by faith alone."

James 2:26 "As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead."

I think the scripture backs up its point.

But yeah, even the demons believed that Jesus was the Son of God. They even begged for mercy.

[brainouty]

Blades, you really need to rethink James. He's not saying what you claim. I did a whole playlist on James' exegesis in the Greek, it's color-coded with a Word doc to follow along (see video description to the first James video in the playlist).

james is talking about spiritual MATURATION, not salvation, in his letter. So your ideas and use of James are way off the mark. Easy mistake to make, when using a translation.

[Blades265]

No that is not all you have to do.

Jesus also said, "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." Matthew 7:21

Also,

"Whoever publicly acknowledges me I will also acknowledge before my Father in Heaven.

BUT whoever publicly disowns me I will disown before my Father in Heaven." - Matthew 10:32-33

[solarisgalrocks]

hey brainy - thanks a lot for referencing this, it's very helpful. What do you think about those people who accept Christ and then they fall into sin or stop believing in God and turn atheist? Can we honestly say that it is becuase they've never believed in God or have accepted him? Don't we still have the free will to choose not to follow him? It's true that most of us who fall come back, but not all of us do. What do you think?

Hope you're doing well this evening! :)

[brainouty]

solarisgalrocks, once a person believes in Christ he is forever saved, due to what CHRIST did. We can't undo what CHRIST did. We also can't undo the time we first believed in Christ. We can't turn back time.

So if one later rejects Christ, the person suffers horribly in a DIFFERENT way -- he remains spiritually retarded. I think I would prefer hell, to that. I tried to explain all this in my GOSPEL playlist, especially in the OSAS videos, which I sent you just now. :)

[solarisgalrocks]

thanks!! Youve done a lot to inform me better of this topic. Thank God for patient people like yourself who do not accuse me.Not to mention Simple475 - he knows his stuff. We talked the entire day today about this very topic. So I finally took down the OSAS video I had. But I'll admit that it was quite an experience getting insulted and being made the subject of videos as to how "stupid" I am. The experience shows me how to treat others who ask me questions. Whew, i'm really burned!!

[solarisgalrocks]

burned but relieved may I ask... do I make sense?? lol, I guess it's time for me to take a break.

God's blessings to you, Brainy!! Luv ya!!

[Laras420]

im sorry i couldnt help you with this mate, i aint that brainy LOL

I just believe, and thank God for that :-)

[brainouty]

solarisgalrocks, you always make sense. You have a knack for simplifying the profound. :)

God's blessings to you, too!

[OneJohnFiveTwelve]

Brainouty, you don't have to 'turn back time' to become an apostate and prove you never were saved.

You are in grave danger. Your 'spiritually retarded' comment comes from your imagination, not the Bible, which records Jesus as saying (yes, in red letters), 'he that endures to the end shall be saved'. Mat 24:13.

Please be very careful with your own conjectures. Be sure you have the right 'Jesus' and not the politically correct one that seduces folk and leads them to hell.

[brainouty]

@OneJohnFiveTwelve you don't know how to read very well. I NEVER SAID what you claim. You need 1John1:9 very badly. If you misread and then get on your high horse over what you IMAGINED someone else said, it means you are carnal. Bye. I will not reply again.

[pailek]

And..is that John 3:16 is a red letter?

do u know what I mean?

[brainouty]

Jesus the Christ, like many people of his day, spoke at least three languages: Aramaic at home, Greek in public discourse, and Latin when having to deal with official Roman matters.

Yes, John 3:16 is a red letter. :)

[pailek]

By the way...what is Jesus tongue?

is it Greek,hebrew,aramaic or else?

I prefer Jesus original tongue that spoke about Gospel...

Cheers..

[brainouty]

Jesus spoke the Greek you see in the video. Word for word. :)

[LOLFunny687]

yes, good video!

and wow, you speak spanish too haha.

thank you for this explanation.

this just convinces me all the more I need to learn Hebrew and Greek.

God Bless~

[Haukman66]

Well alrighty then. You learned one verse, and think you know how to be saved. Maybe you should read the rest of the bible, and see what it says about salvation. It is more than just a mental acknowledgement. Matt. 7:21 says, Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, but HE 'WHO DOES THE WILL OF THE FATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN WILL ENTER. This is Jesus speaking.

[HandsomeStranger1963]

oh but jesus christ was also a revolutionairy. and as the writers of the hiram key clearly state the name Jesus barrabas translate to Jesus The Son of the Father.

ie

Bar= The Son.

Abbas= The Father.

and he did not call himself anything but Jesus Barabbas. granted that Jesus was a fairly common name.

[brainouty]

NO, Christ was not a revolutionary. He didn't counsel throwing down governments. And your comments about Barabbas are way off. Mahmoud Abbas means Praised of the Father, too. So the 'scholarship' about Barabbas is pitifully bad. Not worth discussing.

[brainouty]

Handsome Stranger, I added a comment explaining further the 'pitiful' statement, but it's not showing up now in Youtube. Will repost it after some hours, if it doesn't show up.

[brainouty]

Handsome Stranger, I still don't see my missing post to you. It had two points:

1. Muslim bad Bible scholarship is legendary, trying to claim Muhammed is in Deut 18:18 and Canticles 5:16. The student of Talmud, laughs.

2. So students of Talmud should not make that same kind of error, in talking about Bar-Abbas.

I'm pro-Israel. No excuse for anti-semitism just because the leaders and people at the time Christ was here, condemned Him. WE ALL are that guilty.

Hope this reply, posts!

[HandsomeStranger1963]

as you have said yourself many of the Koine language words are missinterpreted and the authors of the hiram key also say that.

Firstly they say that the Name Jesus was removed from the original translation of mathew 27:16 and then they claim that the word "OR" was added to Mathew 27:17. They claim this was done by men who were working towards there own agenda.I gave up on my Orthodox religion some time ago as it wasrun by proud pompouse men who do not have a problem with addinggeograpic names

[HandsomeStranger1963]

continued from above... adding geographic political names to that of the church. this is the kind of pride that the bible damns. as i truly believe that this is wrong. it is also wrong to have denominations as no denomination could or would exist without Pride.

Masonry is looking to be the best aletrnative.

[HandsomeStranger1963]

these statements in no way are meant to lessen anyones faith. as it in no way lessened mine.

it just may be a way to stop the ridiculouse way most people blame the jewish people for his crucifiction by the romans enforcing roman laws.

[brainouty]

Well, Barabbas was a revolutionary and a murderer, no matter what he called himself.  Text in Bible makes that plain. As for blaming the Jews, that idea is also invalid, for ALL OF US are to blame. That's a running theme in the New Testament, try reading it threaded thickly in Romans (who were all puffed up with anti-semitism).

[HandsomeStranger1963]

I have recently read the "Hiram Key" by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas and entered Koine in the box your page came up.

I am very interested in your views of the Authors observations in the Book of Mathew and particularly verses ...

27:16 and at that time they had a notorious prisoner Barabbas

27:17 Therefore, when they had gathered together, Pilate said to them, "Whom do you want me to release to you? Barrabas OR Jesus who is called Christ?"

[HandsomeStranger1963]

According to Knght and Lomas.

Barabbas when translated from the contempary language tyhat was used meant,

Bar= The Son

Abbas=The Father.

and they also state that the word "OR" in 27:17 was not in the original book of Mathew but was added later by people with there own agenda.

P.S. they also said that the original book of Mathew 27:16 gave Barabbas' name as Jesus Barabbas. are you able to varify or disprove these statements?

I have tried to get answers from Ministerdavid here on UTube

[HandsomeStranger1963]

so with the above in mind verse 27:17 becomes...

Therefore, when they had gathered together, Pilate said to them, "Whom do you want me to release to you? The son of the father Jesus who is called christ?"

So the Jewish mob were not asking for the "Murderer" Barabbas to be released but Jesus himself.

The Jewish people have suffered a great deal for this added word "OR"

Minister David can varify there claims better than I.

[Proverbs8]

Brainouty my sister, I love you as my sister in Christ. I was stating that most of the early church fathers rejected the eternal security doctrine as heresy. I do think that you need to examine your attitudes though. There only so many times you can attempt to use theological maneuvering to discredit clear scripture. For example. What do you do with 1 Timothy 4:1? concerning those that will abandon the faith? You have to have the faith before you can abandon it.

[brainouty]

You don't love me, you don't love the Word, you love your ego, and I'm done with you. Too many CARNAL Christians are like you, and that's why people reject God. You all lie against the Bible and then claim the one REPEATING it is inventing theology. Basta. Don't write to me again.

[brainouty]

The one abandoning the faith is you. And you will find that out at the Bema. Meanwhile, those FEW who see through your fake humility will see God and learn His Word absent your twisting lies. And they will be rewarded at the Bema, made kings - and you lot will be peasants in their kingdoms, very HAPPY to have made it despite your lifelong lies, 1Cor3.

[Haukman66]

Proverbs8, I just have to add to your comment, 1 Timothy 4:1 talks about 'faith', but there is more than one kind of faith. it doesnt say they had 'saving faith'. I know you do not believe in eternal security, but this particular passage does not say they had 'saving faith'. Just something to think about. God Bless.

[Proverbs8]

Haukman66. I appreciate your comments, but the FOCUS of all NT scripture is on "The Faith". I doubt that anyone could make the stretch you have just made in claiming it was some other kind of faith. The lengths one will go to to make their doctrine fit is beyond understanding. When Paul speaks of the faith, which do you think he is referring to? Why would he or "the Spirit" care about anyone abandoning some other faith? Can you tell me about the non-saving faith in Jesus?

[Haukman66]

"Fall away" is the source of the eng. word "apostacize", and refers to someone moving away from an original position,These are professing, or nominal christians who associate with those who truly believe the gospel but defect after believing lies and deception, revealing their true nature as unconverted. 1John 2:19- They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us, but they went out, so that it would be shown they are not of us.

[Proverbs8]

Bro Haukman66. Do you see the leap and presumptions you are making? You divinely know that they were "nominal Christians who associate with those who truly believe the gospel"? Show me where it says that in this verse. If their original position was "lost" how have they moved from the original position? You and others like you continually try force your doctrine into the scriptures and it forces you to make presumptions.

[Haukman66]

Proverbs8, I dont think I did, I just quoted other scripture, to explain my point. If they fell away, as in 1Tim. 4:1, then we have to ask why? 1John 2:19 gives us kind of an answer, does it not? You have to take scripture as a whole, not just one verse. Otherwise, it would seem, they contradict themselves, and we know that is not true. There are plenty of scripture to support, that many "professing" christians, will not enter into heaven. Matt. 7:21 is just one of the many.

[Proverbs8]

You most certainly did make presumptions. You were not there and you do not know the spiritual conditions of those people. You assume to know it, because it MUST fit your doctrine. You also did not answer my question. If their orignal position was lost, how did they move from that? Read all of my discourse with our sister Brainouty and if you want to email and discuss more, I will be glad to. I have to get busy now. Talk later. God Bless You brother!! P8

[Haukman66]

Proverbs8, God bless you, but I dont want to get into a scripture match with you. You obviously do not believe in eternal security, so, I dont know what I can say to help you, except quote the word. After already noting the presence of false teachers at Ephesus(1:3-7,18-20), and countering some of their erroneus teaching with positive instruction,Chaps 2,3, Paul deals directly with the false teachers in 4:1.

[Haukman66]

Proverbs8, Hebrews 10;38-39 is another passage, that talks about apostasy, and true "faith" -verse 38 But my righteous one shall live by faith; and if he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him. verse39- But "we"(true believers), are not of those who shrink back to destruction, but of those who have faith to the preserving of the soul.

[Proverbs8]

Here is a quote from Origen (c.225 A.D.)

"Certain ones of those (heretics) who hold different opinions misuse these passages. They essentially destroy free will by introducing ruined natures incapable of salvation and by introducing others as being saved in such a way that they cannot be lost." This one paragraph addresses Calvinism and eternal security before we knew them by those names. I have 5 pages of such quotes from the ante-Nicene fathers.

[brainouty]

So you would prefer to listen to the heretic Origen, who believed in REINCARNATION, than listen to the Bible. So you are as bad as the Calvinists who listen to Calvin rather than the Bible. Fine. Enjoy yourself. I prefer Bible, and it disagrees with both sides. Eternal Security is what GOD did, very clear from waht CHRIST says, not what you or anyone else say or do. Good bye.

[Proverbs8]

One last thing. Did you know that the ante-Nicene fathers (early church fathers) called the doctrine of eternal security heresy? Today you are called a heretic if you don't believe it! None of the early church fathers believed the eternal security doctrine. NONE!

[Proverbs8]

Rom 11:19-22

19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in." 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.

NIV

[brainouty]

Yes, Proverbs 8, and did you bother to notice the CONTEXT? You will lose your CROWN -- has nothing to do with salvation. Context begins at the last half of Romans 5, and is re-emphasized in Romans 12:1-3 as how you live MATURELY -- or you don't get the reward. It's NOT TALKING ABOUT SALVATION but about KINGSHIP. Sorry, I have to yell at you because you don't read very well.

[Proverbs8]

Secondly, please if you want a discussion, stop insulting me. You don't make a good case for yourself that way. What about 1 Tim 4:1? How can you abandon the faith and follow demons and still be saved? Oh, I am sure you will find a way to make it fit somehow. God's dealings with man have always been conditional from Genesis to revelation. Israel was "cut off" because of unbelief. Watch my new video called The Dancers. It is how I feel about your doctrines.

[Haukman66]

Amen Proverbs8. Brainouty, is a very proud person, and needs to be humbled. Keep the faith.

[Proverbs8]

I will not go on debating you endlessly. I can't make God's word any clearer than it is.

If you think "cut off" means losing a crown, you are trying to make God's word say something different than what it does. Look, how it's conditional here in Romans 11:22! "provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you will also be cut off". Conditional salvation. Its called abiding in Christ. People don't "lose" salvation, they choose to leave it.

[Proverbs8]

1 Tim 4:1

4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

James 5:19-20

19 My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

NIV

[brainouty]

Truly, Proverbs8, since you forsake God you are worse off than if you were never saved, for look how you cannot read Bible. So you cannot tell that Romans 10:10 is MISTRANSLATED, and Romans 10:10 should read "confess BECAUSE of salvation". Meaning, you COULD NOT SAY IT if you weren't already saved.

But then the mistranslators of Romans 10:10 foresook God after being saved, too. So they are spiritually retarded, worse than if they never were saved. Like, you.

[brainouty]

As for the dog vomit passage in Peter, that's what you're doing, returning to the vomit of works. Parallel passage which alludes to Peter is in Hebrews 6, where the RETARDED SAVED BELIEVERS were returning to the Mosaic Law. So like them you are becoming spiritually retarded, which is worse than if you were never saved. But you ARE saved, for you BELIEVED in Christ, so now GROW UP in Christ, 2Pet3:18. Use 1Jn1:9 & THEN you can read Bible, if you also get under a pastor who properly teaches it.

[brainouty]

See also John 10, especially verse 28. NO ONE CAN CANCEL GOD'S WORK IN CHRIST ON THE CROSS. It's sheer arrogance (or retardation) to claim some post-salvation sin GOD FOREKNEW could cancel your salvation. See how silly that is? You will see how silly, if you use 1Jn1:9. Retards never 'get' grace, James 4.

[Proverbs8]

2 Peter 2:20-21

20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.

[Proverbs8]

Rom 10:9-10

9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved

[Victorina32]

Yes, I absolutely will!

Vicky

[Victorina32]

Yes, I believe this is correct!

Victorina

[brainouty]

Thank you, Victorina. If people know it's BELIEVE ONLY to be saved, then they will be saved. Many Christians don't know that. You'll tell them, won't you? :) THANK YOU.

[theenot]

loose salvation? what about heb 10 26 .after knowledge of salvation and continues in willingful sin remains no more salvation.. whats up with that..then? and the part where even fall onto yer knees with bitter tears wont even help even from that point all that remains is a certain onlooking to a firey indignation that will devour the adversaries? so what about that stuff? is it meaning somethin other than? will the answer scratch these itching ears? should i then beware? gimme a take..pleeez

[brainouty]

theenot, in Chapter 10 writer sets up a PARALLELISM between being saved to heaven, and being saved from the upcoming destruction in Jerusalem, which was foretold since 712BC by Isaiah. They knew all about the timing. So "salvation" in 10:26 means physical salvation during life down here. See also Hebrews 2, where that parallelism was first set up, and then is threaded throughout the letter. It's a common theme in the OT, which is why the writer uses it, based on Leviticus 26 and Deut 28.

[GodBlessDevonRose742]

that's so not true

[brainouty]

What's not true, GodBlessDevonRose? Someone marked your comment as spam. I marked it as "NOT spam", so hopefully in a day or two it will show up again. Free speech rules, here.

[BroManz22]

poeple always look for a shortcut.

[GreenChancellor]

Salvation is not running an obstacle course and hoping you will end up standing up someday when the judgment comes. God has made salvation so simple that the smallest child who understands right from wrong can accept it and be saved. God has made salvation so easy that anybody who knows he is a sinner and knows that by faith he can receive Christ as Saviour, can be saved.

[GreenChancellor]

If one of YOUR children got lost, you would make it easy for him to come back. You would search everywhere. You would be the aggressor. You would be more anxious, or at least as anxious, for him to come home as he would be to return home.

Our Glorious Creator has made salvation so simple most men have trouble understanding the simplicity of it.

The thief simply said, "Lord, remember me when Thou comest into Thy kingdom." Jesus said, "Today shalt thou be with Me in paradise."

[icecoldmanly]

For god so loved the world he gave his one and only son, that whoever believe in him shall not perish but have eternal life

John 3:16 NIV

God is so forgiving.

[brainouty]

He sure is, icecoldmanly. Someone marked your comment as "spam", and I marked it as "Not Spam", hope it shows up. Guess someone resents the fact you note so well -- that we can't add any of our over-valued works to Christ's Perfect Work on the Cross. :)

[brainouty]

Thanks for your videos, byefigleaves. I enjoy them much. :)

[devonrose742]

And yes, I agree, once saved ALWAYS saved.

If you KNOW God and have a relationship with him, you will NEVER in your right mind turn back. Those Christians who claim "they were once Christians," well, they were never genuinely saved! (Stewart had a good article on this)

[brainouty]

OOps, devon, looks like you and I gotta fight a little bit. Greek is unequivocable, that once you believe in Christ you cannot lose your salvation. So even if you later disbelieve, it doesn't change anything. Calvinists claim that if you later disbelieve you were never saved, but Bible never says that.

[brainouty]

Which makes sense: where do you draw the line? Is is a bigger sin to later disavow Christ, or to sin WHILE believing in Him? Is it a bigger sin if your girlfriend rejects you for another guy, but pleads she loves you but SLEEPS with someone else?

[devonrose742]

But they never knew Christ to BEGIN with correct? So if they never truly BELIEVED God, then... They are toast!

[brainouty]

Well, devon, I'm not able to tell if someone ever believed in Christ or not. I'd have to be God to know that. :)

[devonrose742]

I like "begotten son" rather than "uniquely born."

And there are different ways to "believe" are there not? Some people only know Christ through religion.

I always would tell people, if requirements were added, how would a crippled person on their deathbed turn to Christ if they need to be baptised, or someone who hasn't the physical ability to do the requirements people talk about. The thief on the cross was saved by his BELIEF, no catholic priest was there to forgive him.

[BaldFury1]

John 3:16 has been perverted for a very long time. Just like Zionism and the Noahide.

None of the above are God's will. However...reading all of John chapter 3 is a great help...

as always,jumping from one chapter verse to another chapter verse will help if you want to be confused in any text.

[brainouty]

God must be paid for sin. He is Holy. Christ is the Messiah, paying for sin, so that is why ONLY if you believe He did that, are you saved. And you only need believe ONCE to be forever saved, the Greek text is so clear you can't miss it unless you flunk first-year kindergarten Greek, or want to lie.

[BaldFury1]

You should read the WHOLE chapter

John 3:19 and this is the condemnation,that light is come into the world,and men loved darkness rather than light,because there deeds were evil. :20 for everyone that DOETH evil hateth the light,neither cometh to the light,lest his deeds should be reproved.

[brainouty]

BaldFury, I read Bible in Hebrew and Greek, and know John 3 rather well. Suggest you take your own advice. Usually when people can't read Bible well it's because they don't like what they read. So you need to talk with God about this, and I'll not reply to you further.

[Haukman66]

Dude, you need to quit spreading your lies. You need not "only believe" to be saved. James 2: 19-20 blows your theory out of the water. James 1:19-27. Read it. If you are saying, you have done exegesis, in other videos, then state it here. You are telling people all they have to do is 'believe' to be saved, and that is not right.

[Jasper50]

Wow. I have not heard that verse explained like that before. Thank you for explaining the Greek tense-matching rule in Greek grammar that shows salvation is eternally secure. Some would refer to a verse in the Bible that says. Unless ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Isn't repentance a very natural occurance in the event of salvationn? The Bible does not say that Zaccheous repented but it does say that he would give 4x back to those he cheated, and half to the poor.

[brainouty]

Thank you, Jasper: my pastor went over the exegesis of John 3:16 for weeks, even made charts. When a pastor teaches from the God-breathed original languages, you see what it REALLY says, and you wonder why others have such odd ideas like you must repent of sins, name them aloud (because Romans 10:10 is mistranslated), get wet, walk an aisle, "accept" (really means to welcome, Greek verb dechomai or lambanw), invite, make Christ Lord (is that arrogant or what?), etc. What, they can't read?

[brainouty]

Nice point you made about Zaccheus -- I hadn't thought of that. "Repent", you'll notice, NEVER SAYS that it's about repenting of sin. Greek verb metanoeo means to CHANGE YOUR MIND -- specifically, about Christ, which the Mark Gospel addresses. And the sin issue is answered in John 16:9 -- "concerning sin, BECAUSE THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN ME."

So anywhere else you see "repent" re Gospel, it means change your mind about IT and about Christ, has nothing to do with your sins.

[Jasper50]

Wow you are teaching me. I'm eating it all up. It's such a blessing. I have a feeling that I was taught this before but now I'm ready for it. Thank you.

[brainouty]

Thank you Jasper, but it's not me teaching. I just pass on what I learn. Teaching belongs to whomever God has personally gifted to you as a pastor, and the Holy Spirit is your Mentor (lit. Parakletos, Mentor's title, famously used in John 14:16-17).

I just demonstrate what BIBLE says, which ability I received from being under my own pastor (who taught from the original-language MSS), and from breathing 1Jn1:9 to get the Spirit's Brains (no real learning goes on in a state of sin unconfessed).

[heltonlms]

Absolutely amazzzing video!!!

dearest Brainouty..WOW!!!!

May the flame of the Holy Spirit always shine upon your beautiful heart!!

PS..i loved to hear this video in Espanhol!!

YHWH alawys bless you..

[brainouty]

Beloved helton, I didn't know you had commented until today, and you commented 3 weeks ago! Youtube must have had a glitch or something! Thank you for your support! I would have also said John 3:16 in Brazilian Portuguese, but my Rio friend says it sounds too Spanish, except when I'm singing Joao Gilberto songs. :) So if you say it, I'll put it in the video -- or, make one yourself!