Prof. Keith Moore دكتور كيث مور و علم الأجنة فى القرأن Part 2

[drm7mod1]

"From Nutfah HE created him, then set him his destiny" Surah 80 Verse 19 Nutfah in Arabic language literally means a small part of fluid or a drop.Its actual meaning idiomatically includes male and female gametes and part of the surrounding fluid. Allah said FROM Nutfah ,the word FROM like when you say (take a pencil from one's pocket) From indicates taking a smaller thing from a bigger containing thing , So When Allah Says From Nutfah that means a smaller part of That Nutfah is involved "sperm"

[drm7mod1]

@Stop spamming You are trying to ensure that the Qur'an was faulty by saying that man is created from sperms not semen and it differs so much , actually semen contains sperms and seminal fluid .. when someone goes to the andrology doctor and the doctor asks him To make a " SEMEN ANALYSIS " as he wants to see some info about the semen's Content > count , motility , abnormal shapes of the " SPERMS " that already present In semen .. its accepted That Semen normally Contains Sperms .

[shelatelsomalie2]

he lies* questions*

srry ^^

and btw if u read about science and quraan u will b happy to have the chance to believe in such a book ;),. quran is from allah and the door 2 islam is still opened

[StopSpamming1]

@shelatelsomalie2

} "read about science and quraan"

This an oxymoron.

[StopSpamming1]

World expert? Moore? What makes you say this?

He is reading a script prepared by al Zindani. Moore knows nothing about the Koran or the description in Islamic texts, so these are not his thoughts. He confirms this in later editions of his book "The Developing Human", published after the 3rd edition, which contains the "Islamic Additions" by the same al Zindani.

[shelatelsomalie2]

@StopSpamming1 yes u know and he doesnt,.. u just dont wanna admit that quraan is the book of god,.. even him didnt want to admit when he first met zandani,.. then after he tudied wt zndani said andagreed "there is a translated copy of quraan" without zandani he wont know about quran,.. so zandani showed him the way only and he couldn't dissagree after a long conversation he took some time 2 study quran and he made up his mind

[StopSpamming1]

@shelatelsomalie2

Sure, I don't care one iota. If you insist, the Koran is the book of god. But it is wrong and has huge inaccuracies, errors, misconceptions, vague statements and factual mistakes.

That is why I prefer taking it as a book written by humans - but I actually don't care how it was written, as long as it is the truth.

And embryology in the Koran is either a vague sign or is to be taken as accurate and scientific. If the latter then it is false. And Moore is a liar.

[shelatelsomalie2]

@StopSpamming1 so u want it to be accurate lol,. if quran mention every thing about it then it will be embryology book not quran and if it was written by human then u should ask ur self this Q

how come nobody could write anything like quran while quran came when ppl were famous for poetry and they couldn't even write a single verse !! the prophet (SAW) didn't know how to write

speakin of mistakes u should read this book "The Bible, The Qur'an and Science" by Maurice Bucaille (hes not a muslim)

[StopSpamming1]

@shelatelsomalie2

So if something is wrong, why mention it?

If the Koran is all about religion, spirituality and religion - why mention embryology at all?

Or mountains as pegs? Barriers between seas? Lightning? Wind?

The book you mention is a joke! It is so funny, I laugh so hard. Bucaille is a twit. And a liar. And a fraud. And was very rich. Paid by Muslims for his lies.

[shelatelsomalie2]

@StopSpamming1

u should read the book if u didn't,.. plus if hes a liar then why did he learn arabic,. and where did he lie

and the answer 2 ur question is " to show these who don't believe in islam that quran is the book of allah not to teach only embryology,. salam alikum plus the door to islam is still opened for u brother ;)

[StopSpamming1]

@shelatelsomalie2

Which book? Koran? Done. Moore's? Done.

Why do you believe he learnt Arabic?

He lied by saying that an embryo resembles a leech. He lied by saying that reproduction follows 3 stages. Everything in this video on the Koranic sentences is a lie.

Can you prove that anything in the Koran on embryology is correct - without using Moore or the other people in this single video? Try it. It will maybe open your eyes.

[shelatelsomalie2]

@shelatelsomalie2 if u read his book u will know why i believe that he did,.

well i'm a medical student and my mother lang. is arabic and i'm goin to study embryology next semester,.. so i know arabic and i know what he's talkin about HOW ABOUT YOU ?

well u cant say hes wrong when he said that and that's it,.. say why ? u need to prove ur point not me!,.

and yes can u also prove,.. well i dont know wts the point from not showing u wt our ppl achieved,. salam

[StopSpamming1]

@shelatelsomalie2

} "if u read his book u will know why i believe that he did"

What are you talking about?

If you are studying medicine, are you studying Islamic medicine or general medicine? Do you differentiate?

If you are Arabic speaking, do you see nutfah or alaqa or mudgah as precise medical descriptions? Do you recognise the stages as representing reality?

Why are spermatozoon, ovum, fertilisation, zygote, blastocyst missing in the Koran if it seriously describes embryology?

[shelatelsomalie2]

@StopSpamming1

well i'm talkin about his Arabic skill in his books that many ppl who studied Arabic were like"wow!"how come Arabic isn't his mother lang.

well i'm studying clinical medicine which is based on wt muslim scientists discovered,. ebn sena,.. abu bakr al razy,. ebn al nfees (so islamic medicine is also clinical medicine),.

yes i do,.. if u came up with one name it doesn't mean that the other name doesn't work to describe the idea,. like when u said general (not clinial)salam

[StopSpamming1]

@shelatelsomalie2

I see you did not research this.

It was not Moore who massacred his 3rd edition, but an Arabic Muslim: al Zindani.

Oh dear. Does this mean infidels have 7 intestines? Of course not, but where do you draw the line?

The names you mention don't tell me anything - unless you are talking about Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi 1000 years ago. Are you sure there are Muslim scientists today?

Come on, nutfah is semen, not sperm or ovum. You MUST know the difference.

[shelatelsomalie2]

@StopSpamming1 7 intestines ? where are u goin with this ? ya i told u that al zindani told him and the guy denied just like u ! then he changed his mind,.. its like u did a research and u dont know about quraan then u know about it so u change ur mind

dont tell me anything <(well its a fact so i said it) plus the names are real and read how the effected on medicine ;) yes there are if u look :),. Ahmed zwel as an exmaple

who said that ? semen means mani in arabic,. salam :)

[StopSpamming1]

@shelatelsomalie2

Easy: give me 4 million $ and I will also change my mind.

Yes, they affected medicine 1000 years ago.

Is Islamic medicine different from Canadian medicine?

What is required for fertilisation: semen or sperm?

[shelatelsomalie2]

@StopSpamming1

give me 4 million $ and I will also change my mind. << prove it,.. its easy to claim

and where are u goin with these question,. is like if i cant answer then hes lies ?!

cause i really got the answer but i see that there is no point from this exam,.

once again clinical medicine is islamic medicine ;),.

[StopSpamming1]

@shelatelsomalie2

Sure. Give me $4m and watch me.

I asked you the same question 852 times yet you never answer. No, I don't ask trick questions. The point is that anyone remotely interested in anatomy would know that semen alone is insufficient for fertilisation. It requires sperm. Which is not mentioned in the Koran. Humans have interpreted semen in the Koran to mean sperm and ovum and zygote, but the Koran does not mention it.

That's where I was going. Showing that the Koran is faulty.

[AZZZZZZZZ800]

Quran is not a book to explaining the science or mathematics or physics or anything like that,..no no no

because, the main goal of the Qur'an is not to teaching people sciences, but to teaching people that behind all that,a one God his name is "Allah".

moreover,he ordered us to search at this great universe and learn its secrets .. because it make us more faith in him.

[StopSpamming1]

@AZZZZZZZZ800

I agree with you 100%

That's why I criticise the people so much who try to artificially put something there that is not, damaging the reputation of all Muslims.

[ThirdPharaoh]

@StopSpamming1 When did we learn about the ovum and zygote? Imagine it was mentioned in the Quran 1400 years ago to illiterate Arabs, how would they react? The question is: Is there any semen without sperms?

[ThirdPharaoh]

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