bismillah...@glorthac!!!do u know what monotheist means u clown...we do not nd 2 talk with people like u...we don't need ur Jewish propagandist on here confusing people hu dnt knw about islam...live ur own life when u die then ull knw...christians dnt worship allah...u sure u clown..have u read the arabic bible where it says allah as god..or have u sn the passion of crist wer christ says Allahi in Aramaic.
"we emerged you as a nation of proportion and made apostle witness on you and you to bear witness on other nations" ... something of the sort is said in Quran in Surah Baqrah Second Chapter First Rukoo. So my brothers in Islam, don't get worked up over what others say about Allah SWT ... instead bear witness against them so they are accountable for what they say here. But try to reason with them in the best of manner that you can manage first.
excuse me brothers and sisters and professors and minors and all other bombastic characters there's no other god than ALLAH and no there no 365 gods and do you think that your the father of those 365 gods? just go to tell brother i know to talk more than you but islam as said when dogs barks muslims must avoid them
If you seek the knowledge of God's love, creation and power then 7129/6105195
Truth is in God's math, not words written by men to control other men. All religeons are wrong, and right, more right than wrong. The altered words from the beast (man) to control others. Much wisdom to be gained if you can solve the puzzle that God leaves us. The Mahdis is walking amoung us as is Jesus and the other phrophets, alive today through reincarnation for end of age. Sounds crazy, but its true.
Please except my apology. I don't want to take anything way from Islam, but rather add to it. If it were not for Islam I would not have the information I needed in my journey. No I am not muslim, but I admire the followers dedication to God, perhaps more than any other religeon. God... Always on your mind. I do find it perplexing though, everyone says thier messiah is coming and going to destroy each other, so who wins? Mahdis? Jesus? or the Jews messiah who has never came but is coming?
The Mahdi(a muslim) and 'Jesus'(we believe 'Jesus' was/is/will remain a MUSLIM) are going to "fight together" against the 'Dajjal'(anti-christ)...and it will be Jesus who will kill the anti-christ.
Lastly, we believe that "most" of the Jews will be the followers of the "anti-christ" and will take him as their messiah.
If you want more details please pm me, as it's very inconvient to reply like this.
Then there is the TRUTH...that Jesus is Jewish who came from the line of Isaac through whom the Father keeps his covenant. Yeshua IS the Jewish Messiah- He is the Lion of the tribe of JUDAH- he is not a muslim, nor are any of the biblical prophets. This is a huge lie propagated by Islam.
Muslim simply means one who submits to God... this is why all the prophets were muslims... did they not submit to GOD? yes ofc they did! hence they are muslims ( those that submit to God)
Jesus died and will never return. know that my dear Muslim brothers and sisters. West teaches u this, this has nothing to do with Islam. Jesus will never return ! Prophet (saws) said on Badr "If Jesus and Moses WERE ALIVE they would follow me" (graded sahih) and there is no such thing as Mahdi. we r all Mahdis ! to believe in Mahdi is against Qur'an since Allah will not change situation of a nation until they change themselves.
Don't know which ENGLISH TRANSLATION you got the "two Easts and two Wests, that Earth is flat"
The Quran says the EARTH is SPHERICAL
As for the Quran saying, "that sun sets in mud",actually says 'murky pool'..LIKE, 'we say as an expression, when at the beach..hey look at the sun-setting in the sea, isn't it so lovely'.More proof: the ARABIC word used for 'setting',implies an 'expression of speech'
LOL,I think I quoted YOUR BIBLE!Your other statements are utter nonsense
Perfect example of ignorance. But that's just your way. It's the main reason there's been so much bloodshed over religion.
You explain why the Qur'an would say that the sun sets in mud, yet ignore any explanation defending the Bible. And you know I'd be willing to accept Muslim explanation of things if it weren't for their blatant disregard for the Bible. But I can't even have a suitable conversation with you guys.
But you know what... both books were written by people, so why even defend them?
I don't have a typical Christian mentality. I would have said that the bible was infallible if I was the typical Christian. I also don't believe that there is ONE TRUE religion. That God sends people to Hell for not having the right religion. To assume such a thing is to be totally ignorant of what LOVE is. I think all religions have some good knowledge, yet all have been corrupted by men to suit their needs and wants. I also believe we are all children of God, Jesus came to show us that.
Assume someone says,I love you,but does everything that one does NOT like/want.Thus one would be like,'I do NOT need this kind of love'
The same is with God. God asked,us to do something,and you don't do,then you claim to love God,even though you disobey all the commands.This is NOT love but hypocrisy. Muslims believe ALL who do NOT follow the ONE TRUE religion of ISLAM will go to hell.If you use "children of God" as an expression I have no problems
The moon does give off the light she reflects from the sun. She gives it at night in the respective parts of the world, that is the job of the moon, so the light she gives off can be referred to as hers. There are also deeper meanings to these verses. But to simplify..pick a better translation. "...the sun will be dark when it rises; and the moon will no longer shine." Your missing the big picture here...these things won't be shining on the great day of YHWY.
This is what Muhammad observed and this is what he said. He stated what was obvious to him and to everyone else in his time who had no understanding of how the solar system works.
IslamIssue, despite all of our disagreements in our ways of viewing points in our religions I hope that this will not make us less to being friends, ok. I appreciated all the views that you have share with me and once again thank you for the little discussion we have had earlier.
The Bible do not preaches Incest. The Bible is tell us what was going on at that time. But Neither GOD Nor the Bible itself Commended (Remember that word) you to do that. U see my point my friend? Moreover, Lot was drunked by his 3 daughters.
Qur'an 83:22 "The believers will be in Delightful Bliss: On couch-like thrones, gazing, their thirst will be slaked with pure wine." Your heaven even prepares you wine (LOL). Any bar to visit? What a BIG JOKE (LOL)
"here'll be a lake of "pure wine"....the wine of heaven, that is the sweetest and one which does NOT make you drunk..."
The wine of Heaven & does not make you drunk hahaha... this makes it more like a cartoon movie to make. Boy, some imaginaries done by Muhammad (LoL). Let me ask you a question, do you think they have a bar in your heaven? Common sense right? Women, boys, wine and bars will be a perfect heaven for Muslims (LoL)
IslamIssue, Why should I be jealous or have my heart broken. I should be happy that I have a better haven and a True GOD. Allah is full of lust and we know that True GOD is not. So, Allah=Satan, cause Satan teach people to be lustful (LoL)
IslamIssue, pls make a note that your allah and the Allah worship by the Christians and Jews in Arabs and some Muslim countries are meant to be different. I thought I send you the reason in your message at your profile. I can't explain it here cause the space is just too short.
IslamIssue, I don't care for what the Jews are thinking. In fact they are the one who rejected Jesus and Crucify him, not the Arabs. I know that. But the fact that they are the CHOSEN ONES I respect that. The Bible said that GOD will have His own ways on dealing with the Jews at the Dooms Day. I respect that also. your vid on the meaning of Allah is meant for the Islamic Allah. Remember that Muhammad's family believes in pagan worships. Thus, Allah as the moon god's name is used by him too.
IslamIssue, the fact is Abdullah is a pagan worshiper and he is Muhammad's father, ok. That is why his name is Muhammad bin Abdullah. Abraham's family? Which family? oh right from the Ismail side (the ones who worship pagan)..."Prophet Abraham's family had the business of selling IDOLS(in other words they were pagans)...."
"bin" means "son of" in english, in other words Muhammad the son of Abdullah.
I have already told you, that our Prophet Muhammad's father Addullah was a pagan, and Muhammad(pbuh) himself said that his father will be in the hellfire...
By Prophet Abraham's family, I mean his father was in the business of selling idols..and we muslims also believe that Prophet Abraham's father was a pagan and used to worship idols...
IslamIssue, since you bring the issue on Quran21:33 I will tell you that this shows how wrong your Allah and Muhammad on the scientific evidence. scientifically the sun and the moon are rotating around their own axis. BUT The word here implies that the Sun and the Moon float in the sky around the Earth and not around their own axis. LOL
So bro, just because you read my translation "orbit" you said it floats around the sky...
LOL bro, I didn't say my translation was perfect...now getting to the point....
The Quran also says the sun is the CENTRE of our solar system...so it would be pretty difficult the CENTRE to be float around the sky..don't you agree??..LOL
Thus word used means its rotating in its own axis...
The Quran uses the word Yasbahoon means swimming. By bundling the Moon and the Sun together, it is clear that Muhammad thought they are alike with one being brighter than the other.Attempts such as this, to twist the apparent meaning of the words reveal the desperation of Muslims to find miracles and science in the absurdities of the Qur'an and hide its errors.
The more appropriate translation is "floating"...how is floating? SMOOTH
in other words the Quran is the Sun and Moon are floating in their axises..
Lol, bro the Quran says the Moon shines by the reflected light of the sun..
light described of the moon is 'Munir' which is borrowed light or 'Noor' which is a reflection of light....So bro, just coz you do NOT arabic your having all these problems..
Isa 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
The Bible verse says that moon shall not cause HER LIGHT to shine, meaning the moon has its own light.
More errors about the light of the moon in the Bible:
Isaiah 30:26:Moreover the light of the moon shall be AS THE light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
Thus this verse is saying the SUN and MOON have THEIR OWN LIGHT!!
Hahaha.. My dear brother the verse you quoted is nothing to do with a solar system. here you misinterpret the context of the verse. those verse is a promise of GOD for Sion. How in the world can you say it talks about the solar system (LoL).
Hahaha???LOL...read it again the LORD(GOD) is promising the people of Zion/Sion...BUT what is the LORD promising:
"26 The moon will shine like the sun, and the sunlight will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven full days, when the LORD binds up the bruises of his people and heals the wounds he inflicted"
In other words the Lord(GOD) is promising Sion that God will make the "The moon will shine like the sun...."
Which is UNTRUE.....as the moon does NOT have light of its own!!
Certainly IslamIssue, has no knowledge on the Bible and yet he tries to be boastful thinking that he know what the context mean (LOL). IslamIssue, u r out of context for trying to interpret the verse literally.
Boastful thinking....I have given you solid proof....and all vterroe can accuse me of is BOASTFUL thinking!!
Maybe, vterroe would be better of accusing God of WRONGFUL THINKING((LOL)....
then vterroe says that I've taken the verse "out of context" which is UNTRUE....the he says that I'm trying to interpret the verse literally: I'm just say what YOUR GOD literally said in the BIBLE!!LOL
Solid proof? of What? You have given me nothing at all but your way of misinterpreting the context of the verse. Face it kid you lose the battle before it even begins. LoL
GOD is OMNIPRESENT, YES. He is everywhere. At least my GOD is. That's why I do not need a special place for my GOD to be available for me. Even those place that IslamIssue said. Thus, even at the worst places, If I come to Him and do my repentance full heartedly, He will be there to answer my pray. Thank GOD for I have the kind of GOD.
IslamIssue, you certainly try to twist the meaning of the word or is because you are ignorant of the real meaning of it. OMNIPRESENCE, is basically He has no limitation over the place He wants to be. He can be everywhere. Unlike your God, I'm sure he is very limited on to where he wants to be. Why? Cause your GOD live in Mecca in a form of an idol my friend. You see my point now LOL
IslamIssue, face the fact man that your god can't go anywhere cause he is just a stone man. An idol that lives in Mecca. OOppps, I mean which stay put in Mecca LoL.
IslamIsuue, He can do all those things because He is in a humanly body form. That is perfectly normal. But that does not make Him less GOD. Even your Quran says that He is Holy (Sura 19:19) and He cannot be touched by Satan (Bukhari 3177). Unlike your Allah, he is a Pedophile and gay (Sura 76:19) . That's is why Muhammad acted the same way as his Allah (LOL)
IslamIssue, some servants that your allah prepares for you in that "heaven". Just like those virgin angels with big eyes, etc.. to serve you there. What kind of servants that your Allah will allow you to do to them since they are there to serve you, right? SOME LUSTFUL HEAVEN you've got there.. LOL
Qur'an 55:46 "For him who lives in terror of his Lord are two Gardens containing delights: shade, two fountains flowing, fruits in pairs. Reclining on carpets lined with silk brocade, fruits hanging low. In them virginal females with averted glances (desiring none but you), underflowered by men or jinn. Is the reward of goodness aught but goodness?"
Acts 19:23-41 mentions a religion that worshipped the great goddess Artemis and her meteorite which fell down from heaven. Taking note that this religion centered around a meteorite, my question is: is it possible that this is a pagan corruption of the Black Stone and meteorite that fell at the foot of Adam and that at the time of Christ the Black Stone was actually in Ephesus Asia minor?
IslamIssue, you said that you don't worship the Black Stone or the Ka'bah? You must be joking man. let me ask you a simple question. Which direction do you do your prayer? Towards those things man..Why? It's just like a Buddhist prays towards his idol. You don't say you worship that? Then why can't you face towards something else? Maybe a tree in-front of your house. Is it, ok? What a BIG JOKE (LOL). Don't deny the fact man..
IslamIsuue, let me quote you, "We muslims "FACE" the Kaaba...because we commanded by God to do so ..." Your God as you put it COMMANDED YOU. Hahaha... so you admit that he asked you or forces you to worship him LOL.
IslaIssue, you are the one who ask me to response to your question. Now I am stating the truth and you can't bare to handle that. See who is pathetic now LoL
IslamIssue, you claim that the Angel Gabriel is the Holy Spirit who came upon Mary and caused her to conceive. My question is: If this is true, then why did Gabriel say to Mary in Luke 1:35, "the power of the Holy Spirit will come upon you" rather than "my power will come upon you"?
Angel Gabriel did NOT cause Mary to concieve...so do NOT twist and turn my words..
The "word" of God was placed in Mary..
Simple explanation: 'God says, BE ..and IT IS..'
Next, you Christians should really make of your minds which part of the Bible you want to follow...Because "Jesus" says in the BIBLE the 'Holy Spirit' can NOT come unless he leaves..
but we see the Holy Spirit...keeps on making sneak previews....
IslamIsuue, you said "The "word" of God was placed in Mary.." Good. Now I ask you, as you put it that way, The WORD OF GOD that made Mary to to Conceive, thus , isn't right if I tell you that the WORD then became Human (Jesus). And cause the WORD OF GOD is GOD alone, then that very being (Jesus) = GOD.
As for the Holy Spirit, Jesus meant to say that the Holy Spirit manifests to the people after Jesus has risen and back to Heaven only. That is being fulfilled even till now.
Worshiping at Kabah,Praying 5 x a day towards Mecca (Muhammad chose 5 of the same times the Sabeans prayed).Fasting for part of a day for an entire month.Muhammad derived some of his ideas from Eastern religions,i.e Zoroastrianism and Hinduism.These things were in existence long before Muhammad was born.The story of a flying trip through 7 heavens.The Houries of paradise.The "light" of Muhammad.Paradise with its wine, women, and song (from the Persians).The peacock story.
1st of all, Jesus was never praying towards Jerusalem (where is the scripture that says that?). As he was kneeling on the ground not to the ground (LoL). and of course GOD is OMNIPRESENT (Every where). Well except of course your Allah who built his home in the earth at Mecca (LoL). So, in other words your heaven is just an airplane ticket's away (LoL).
I didn't say the Bible says Jesus prayed facing towards Jerusalem, I said we believe this..
One of the examples that Jesus prayed like the muslims, with his forehead to the the ground: Matthew 26:39 "And he (Jesus) went a little farther,and FELL ON HIS FACE(means prostated), and prayed.." So LOL more at "Jesus"
Fasting is good. I admit that. Both spiritually and physically. But how you fast makes the difference. Fasting for part of a day for an entire month on a special month. That is a pagan belief.
Animals Sacrifice was done and ok in the early time. Do you know the message behind that? Sacrifice of the Lamb is a symbol of Jesus who was crucified on the cross.
How does the Bible being corrupted? Do you have any hard evidences or simply just imagining :-). As the Quran, it has been changed from its original for few times.
1. Caliph Uthman ordered the Qur'an collected into one volume: Hadith 709 & 507.The Qur'an had not been collected into one volume prior the third Caliph, some 25 years after Muhammad's death but Some translation was necessary to put portions of it back into the Quarish dialect.
1st,Your own scholars have admitted the Bible has been corrupted...You click on my profile and watch part 8 to see with your own eyes one of your scholars admitting to this...
Next,Unlike you Christians we Muslims memorize the Quran...
And we know that Caliph Usman ordered the Quran to be "complied" into one volume..
Next you use the word,"translation"...well sorry disappoint you..but Usman was there with the Prophet..thus he knew the "dialect" in which it was originally reveled...
1.Contrary to Muslim claims, some verses HAD NOT been memorized by everyone: Hadith 511
2.Muhammad one night, riode on a winged horse that drove him from Masjidu'lHaram to Msjidu'l Aqsa (in Jerusalem)Quran 17:1.The biggest problem with this story: Masjid'ul Aqsa "Farthest Mosque" was built after the death of Muhammad.Whoever wrote verse 17:1, was not aware that Masjid ul Aqsa did not exist during the time of Muhammad & he could not have made his trip to heaven from a place that did not exist.LOL
1.Contrary to Muslim claims, some verses HAD NOT been memorized by everyone: Hadith 511
2.Muhammad one night, rode on a winged horse that drove him from Masjidu'lHaram to Msjidu'l Aqsa (in Jerusalem)Quran 17:1.The biggest problem with this story: Masjid'ul Aqsa "Farthest Mosque" was built after the death of Muhammad.Whoever wrote verse 17:1, was not aware that Masjid ul Aqsa did not exist during the time of Muhammad & he could not have made his trip to heaven from a place that did not exist.LOL
Islamissue, you certainly do not know your Quran and don't do your research well.Let me help you then.
1. Masjidu'l Aqsa was built on the Temple Mount by the end of the 7th century.53years after Muhammad's death. This is reported in The Concise Encyclopedia of Islam, Harper & Row, 1989, p. 46 and 102.
2."Masjid' means any place of worship (sojda), that is why the prophet refers to the temple of Solomon as Masjid.
worship does NOT sojda in arabic worship can be roughly translated as ebadaah and the place you call the "temple of solomon" is "Masjid ul Aqsa". Wow bro, Harper & Row(probably Christians) are gonna teach us Islamic history.2ndly, Jerusleum was conquered within 12 years of the death of Prophet,when Umar(ra) was the Caliph and what you are referring to merely the RE-BUILDING,similarly,the Kaaba too was RE-BUILT many times after the death of the Prophet..
Bukhari V4B55N636; This hadith presents yet another problem. Masjid'ul Haram (Ka'ba) was allegedly built by Abraham. He lived about 2000 BC and the Temple of Solomon (the site of the Msjid ul'Aqsa) was built about 958-951 BC. There is a gap of about over 1040 years between the dates of the construction of the two buildings. His holiness Muhammad's mistake was a mere one thousand years.
Wow.. TOO MUCH CONTRADICTIONS IN REAL TIME LIFE. So you know which 1 is corrupted now (LOL)
2. Claims that the Qur'an was collected during Muhammad's life are contradicted by one who is alleged to have collected it. Compare with Hadith 201 of Volume 6
3. Zaid bin Thabit Al-Ansari's First Account of the Compilation of the Qur'an: Hadith 201
4. Zaid bin Thabit's Second Account of the Collection of the Qur'an: Hadith 509
7. There seems to be a conflict in the claims as to when the Qur'an was collected, and there was not a generally accepted version available: Hadith 525 & 526.
Yes, it was way before Jesus. But the Sacrifice of the lamb is done by those people in the Old Testaments including the prophets is a symbol of the coming Jesus who would be crucified on a cross for Jesus is also called the Lamb of GOD.The sacrificial of a lamb is a communion between GOD and men.
Those are legends for GOD sake... Why your Quran supposedly your holy books cause it is the words of Allah consists these kinds of legends and fables? Why? Could it be the book is just an ordinary book that consist nothing of the word of the REAL GOD?Muhammad incorporated parts of the religion of the Sabeans into Islam (Encyclopedia off Islam (ed. Eliade), pp. 303ff.He adopted such pagan rituals as:
Islamisuue; this is what I mean. You are trying to twist the context. The scripture says that the King Nabukadnezar had a dream which then Daniel translated the meaning of his dream. A dream ...Do you know what it means? (LoL)
The discrepancy in ages is due to a copyist error. We can see that the difference in ages is 20 years. The system of number notation used by the Jews at the time of Ezra consisted of horizontal hooks that represented decades. The first symbol would equal the number 14 where the second would be 24. If one or both of the hooks were smudged or flaked off of a papyri, then the dates would be off by ten years or a factor of ten.
Do you know who actually is Imam Mahdi? That will be Jesus. Remember in your Qur'an Muhammad said that Isah (Jesus) will be the One who will comeback to the earth to give the Judgments on mankinds. Why Isah (Jesus)? Why not the LORD Himself? Or is it the same way of saying that Isah (Jesus) is the LORD Himself? Cause only The One who is not sinned can give judgments on others.
In the Quran it says that Issa will return and lead the followers of God. Before Issa appears there will be a man in charge of "true" Islam and will lead Muslims down the right path. Dajjal will also be around in human form leading the non believers (Anti-Christ). Issa will appear at the right place, at the right time and will slay dajjal. Issa will make it clear that he has returned to guide his people down the right path. Islam says Issa is a prophet and Christianity says Issa is a God.
vterroe-----Let me guess, you're "ANOTHER EXPERT" on Islam? LOL. Your own Pat Robertson himself reported there will be TWO men coming around the same time. One will be Jesus, they other he "wasn't sure of". Both wil do good things.
Prophet Muhammad told the Muslims of Imam Mahdi coming who will be a direct descendent of his bloodline. He will lead and clean up the Muslims first, THAN Jesus will come to clean up the Christians.
Your blasphemous ways will not corrupt Allah's Guidance.
Ikaa2, you do not have to guess cause I was a muslim before and had the opportunity to study what the Quran and Haddith teaches.
Anyway, the Bible says that before the Day of the Judgment or in the Anti-Christ era, two people who will be coming are Moses and Elijah. Not like you said Jesus and another person LoL. Jesus will only come later on the Judgment Day as the LORD and He will be the Supreme Judge over Mankind.
So don't twist what the Bible says just like what your Muhammad always did :-)
vterroe---only Allah knows the truths of every person. IF you were Muslim than you'd know of the Mahdi. THAN AGAIN, Muslims too are ignorant when it comes to the depths of Islamic knowledge. The fact you now fell and worship a human shows this.
RE-READ my previous post. I heard Pat Robertson say this on TV many years ago (90s) during one of his CBN shows when I was Christian. I clearly remember this b/c it made me curious. I even emailed CBN on his lecture, but never got a response back.
Ikaa2, we have to agree that how Jesus was being born in this world not through sexual intercourse but by Kalimattullah (The Word of God). Look at that. Jesus is so unique. If Adam is made frm dust. Hawa (Eve) is made from Adam's rib. We are made by the sexual relationship of our parents. But this Jesus is by the Word Of GOD. Isn't the Word of GOD is GOD Himself? 1 more thing pls read your Haddith no 3177 that clearly stated everyone will be touched by satan except Marry and her son, Jesus.
What do you mean made IMPURE? Your Quran and Haddith clearly stated how PURE and HOLY the Baby Jesus is. Thus because of Him, His "mother" -Marry -and Himself cannot be touched by Satan. Compare to your Muhammad who was touched by Satan only proves that he neither is holy nor a real prophet (LoL).
(LoL) This doe not mean it can be applied for baby Jesus. Why? Cause, Jesus was created differently. Not through the matting of two people but through the Word Of GOD (Kallimatullah). That fact is stated in your Quran. That what makes him different. He is Holy. Unlike your Muhammad.(LoL)
1st of all not only my Bible, but your Quran says that Jesus is Holy (Sura 19 verse 19).Do you know what the word HOLY means? Who can be Holy except the GODD alone. So, is Quran also trying to say that Jesus=GOD? It is your Quran that say that (LoL).
2nd, where in the Bible that God the Father calls Jesus a "Worm"? So me the scripture.
I bet your kind of people like to speak without having evidences huh? (LoL)...
Lets see, what Surah 19:19 The angel said(to Mary): "I am only a Messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a holy/righteous son."
Even though this argument never existed, since you've brought it down to this level: HOLY simply means religious/rightious...Its like me saying a particular man is very holy...
If you don't know this much/or are in a serious habit of taking "words" OUT OF CONTEXT...I have no words for you...
Islamissue, you said,"HOLY simply means religious/rightious.: (LoL) Where in the world did you get that meaning? Do u understand English? Holy means: Sacred, Worthy of Worship, Saint (American Heritage Dictionary). So pls, do not try to twist and turn your words just to justify your way of thinking. Stay with the fact! Where else in Quran that says any other prophets or people that is HOLY except JESUS. None.WHY?
IslamIsuue, You do have a serious problem on trying to translate the meaning of the context in Job 25:6. This context is simply said about the opinion of Bildad for no human is rightous in the eyes of the LORD. Nothing more. But Job answered him in Job Chapter 26-27. Read the whole things before u give your misleading comments (LoL). Typical Muslim you r a joke, just like your religion (LoL)
That is simply a person giving out his thought or opinion. What's wrong with that. Unlike Muhammad which facts shows that he is a Child Molester/ Pedophile (Tabari IX:131), Lustful & perverted (Bukhari:V4B52N211), having sexual fantasies (Bukhari:V9B87N139-40), A Racist (Bukhari:V4B52N137)and etc... (LoL)
Find out the name of the person you'll TRANSLATE as "JESUS"
Coz,they did NOT speak ENGLISH back then,but spoke HEBREW and there is NO "J"
in hebrew, so well done on the translation job,what more can we expect from christians, whose BIBLE says in one place the EARTH is FLAT,then says its a CIRCLE,and also adds its SUPPORTED BY PILLARS!
Wow!Have a nice time living on a DVD shaped earth(round and flat) supported by pillars, makes sense too coz you can't support a spherical earth by PILLARS!JOKE!
IslamIss,Quran=cartoon.The Quran says men were turned into apes because they broke the Sabbath.Ths was popular in Muhammad's day(Suras 2:65; 7:163-166)."The story of the she-camel who leapt out of a rock and became a prophet was known long be4 Muhammad"(Suras 7:73-77,85; 91:14; 54:29).In what is called the "Rip Van Winkle" story, 7 men & their animals slept for 309 years in a cave & then woke up perfectly fine(Sura 18:9-26)!Legend is found in Greek and Christian fables as well as Arabian lore.
Islamissue, my point is not whether you agree with what I have quoted to you earlier about those legends and fables but with this kind of stories do you actually think that the Quran is fit to be called the Word of GOD?
Yes, the QURAN is the ONLY "EXISTING" UNCORRUPTED WORD OF GOD!!
Simple explanation:
For example we both believe Jesus raised the dead(how he did it, is where we differ), similarly if you OR me were speaking to a atheist..we could crak our heads and still not make him believe this!!
The so called contradictions you are coming up with can NOT be verified by either YOU OR ME....
While ALL the contradictions I am coming up with can be verified by ALL OF US: MORE TO COME!!
So again, Islamissue, your really have an issue here for not understanding my simple description of the word Holy here. I strictly quoted from YOUR QURAN. Your Quran says Holy, WHY? can you answer that? Is your Quran lying when it says that? Remember that Quran is the message directly from Allah, not Muhammad.
As for Begotten, it is a past participle of beget which means to cause to exist (The American Heritage Dictionary) . What's wrong with that? LoL.
Read the Hebrew translation. Some Hebrew words are hard to be translated into other language while often they are impossible to be translated to. Anyway, you do have to agree that according to the Qur'an, 'Isa was the Messiah. He was supported by the 'Holy Spirit'. (Al-Baqarah 2:87; Al-Ma'idah 5:110) He is also referred to as the 'Word of Allah'. (An-Nisa' 4:171).
Again "vterroe", you read the translated version of the Bible in English, and you THINK you can point out mistakes...
I 'holy spirit' which is probably should be in brackets...simply means "angel Gabriel"....
I have NO problem in referring to "Jesus" as the Word of Allah...because we muslims believe that Jesus spoke in matters of religion was the 'word of Allah'...
Bro, I have a Hebrew speaking muslim as my best buddy...so please pause the psychological effects..
Ikaa2, u said,"...Muslims already believe in the Messiah, and await his return!" You are 1000% right on that word ..and await HIS RETURN. That means the Messiah was here before and now He is gone and WILL RETURN. Isn't that Messiah's name will be best to be put as JESUS. LoL
vterroe--the lack of knowledge regarding Islam falls in your court. We Muslims love Jesus (Essa correctly) MORE than you do, and await his return. He is our brother in Islam------yes he is a MUSLIM---one who submits to Allah. That is precisely what he did as did the other messengers and prophets did. He will stand in line for prayer with his fellow Muslim brothers. Perhaps you'll be alive to witness this?
Ikaa2, isn't that funny when you said that Jesus is a Muslim? Do you know when Islam was being proclaimed as a religion? Do you know when the Islamic calender starts? Hahaha.... I tell you friend, do a lot of researches then come back to me and make your statements. Otherwise, you will just making a fool out of yourself with your ignorant statements (LoL)
vterroe---for supposedly being an ex-Muslim, you are wholly ignorant of the definition of Muslim. ONE who submits to Allah's Will. YES JESUS IS A MUSLIM well b4 Islam was completed.
Every prophet taught the basics of Islam b4 it was completed through P. Muhammad.
you are not just ignorant but a nazi brat who has no better stuff to do but to spead the false propoganda of the false prophet and convert or kill those who don't belive in the religion of the anti christ the satan mohammed
bismillah...@glorthac!!!do u know what monotheist means u clown...we do not nd 2 talk with people like u...we don't need ur Jewish propagandist on here confusing people hu dnt knw about islam...live ur own life when u die then ull knw...christians dnt worship allah...u sure u clown..have u read the arabic bible where it says allah as god..or have u sn the passion of crist wer christ says Allahi in Aramaic.
killa7mm 1 year ago
"we emerged you as a nation of proportion and made apostle witness on you and you to bear witness on other nations" ... something of the sort is said in Quran in Surah Baqrah Second Chapter First Rukoo. So my brothers in Islam, don't get worked up over what others say about Allah SWT ... instead bear witness against them so they are accountable for what they say here. But try to reason with them in the best of manner that you can manage first.
zotopec 2 years ago
1 John 2:22 "Who is the LIAR? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist - he denies the Father and the Son."
Acts10 2 years ago
That's right,
Christ = Messiah
Whoever denies Eesa, alayhi salam is the messiah has commited disbelief.
Also, Whoever thinks Eesa alayhi salam is the son of God has commited disbelief.
IslamTalks 2 years ago 73
When is he coming?
Kalepa81 2 years ago
Allah knows best, we don't know.
IslamTalks 2 years ago 35
excuse me brothers and sisters and professors and minors and all other bombastic characters there's no other god than ALLAH and no there no 365 gods and do you think that your the father of those 365 gods? just go to tell brother i know to talk more than you but islam as said when dogs barks muslims must avoid them
murshid7 2 years ago
If you seek the knowledge of God's love, creation and power then 7129/6105195
Truth is in God's math, not words written by men to control other men. All religeons are wrong, and right, more right than wrong. The altered words from the beast (man) to control others. Much wisdom to be gained if you can solve the puzzle that God leaves us. The Mahdis is walking amoung us as is Jesus and the other phrophets, alive today through reincarnation for end of age. Sounds crazy, but its true.
energyismass 4 years ago
energyismass are you even muslim...whatever is you answer...keep your erroneous beliefs to yourself!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Please except my apology. I don't want to take anything way from Islam, but rather add to it. If it were not for Islam I would not have the information I needed in my journey. No I am not muslim, but I admire the followers dedication to God, perhaps more than any other religeon. God... Always on your mind. I do find it perplexing though, everyone says thier messiah is coming and going to destroy each other, so who wins? Mahdis? Jesus? or the Jews messiah who has never came but is coming?
energyismass 4 years ago
Apoplgy accepted.
The Mahdi(a muslim) and 'Jesus'(we believe 'Jesus' was/is/will remain a MUSLIM) are going to "fight together" against the 'Dajjal'(anti-christ)...and it will be Jesus who will kill the anti-christ.
Lastly, we believe that "most" of the Jews will be the followers of the "anti-christ" and will take him as their messiah.
If you want more details please pm me, as it's very inconvient to reply like this.
IslamIssue 4 years ago 56
Then there is the TRUTH...that Jesus is Jewish who came from the line of Isaac through whom the Father keeps his covenant. Yeshua IS the Jewish Messiah- He is the Lion of the tribe of JUDAH- he is not a muslim, nor are any of the biblical prophets. This is a huge lie propagated by Islam.
dgross563 3 years ago
Muslim simply means one who submits to God... this is why all the prophets were muslims... did they not submit to GOD? yes ofc they did! hence they are muslims ( those that submit to God)
lustorlove1985 2 years ago 16
Interesting. You're not the first person I heard this from.
skipp311 4 years ago
Jesus died and will never return. know that my dear Muslim brothers and sisters. West teaches u this, this has nothing to do with Islam. Jesus will never return ! Prophet (saws) said on Badr "If Jesus and Moses WERE ALIVE they would follow me" (graded sahih) and there is no such thing as Mahdi. we r all Mahdis ! to believe in Mahdi is against Qur'an since Allah will not change situation of a nation until they change themselves.
brothermuslim1984 4 years ago
"brothermuslim1984", keep your erroneous beliefs to yourself, PM me if you want to discuss further!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
adrikna ya mehdi!!!!!
BigBeydoun21 4 years ago
Truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Surely! Falsehood is ever bound to vanish.
IslamIssue 4 years ago
The BIBLE SAYS THE MOON HAS LIGHT OF ITS "OWN"
10 The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light.The rising sun will be darkened and *THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT*.
I hope you can *SPOT* the ERROR!!LOL
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Qur'an teaches that there are two Easts and two Wests, that Earth is flat, that it's not heliocentric, that sun sets in mud ...
So let's not even go there. And if something reflects light it can be known to give off light.
Also note that the Bible says that the sun was dimmed first then the moon which would imply that the light of the moon is from the sun.
skipp311 4 years ago
skipp311,LETS GO THERE
Don't know which ENGLISH TRANSLATION you got the "two Easts and two Wests, that Earth is flat"
The Quran says the EARTH is SPHERICAL
As for the Quran saying, "that sun sets in mud",actually says 'murky pool'..LIKE, 'we say as an expression, when at the beach..hey look at the sun-setting in the sea, isn't it so lovely'.More proof: the ARABIC word used for 'setting',implies an 'expression of speech'
LOL,I think I quoted YOUR BIBLE!Your other statements are utter nonsense
IslamIssue 4 years ago 4
Perfect example of ignorance. But that's just your way. It's the main reason there's been so much bloodshed over religion.
You explain why the Qur'an would say that the sun sets in mud, yet ignore any explanation defending the Bible. And you know I'd be willing to accept Muslim explanation of things if it weren't for their blatant disregard for the Bible. But I can't even have a suitable conversation with you guys.
But you know what... both books were written by people, so why even defend them?
skipp311 4 years ago
Typical Christian mentality,
Ofcourse it was WRITTEN by men(Muslims do NOT believe GOD(in ANY form) CAME/OR WILL COME ON EARTH.
BUT muslims believe:BOTH THE QURAN AND THE BIBLE were "REVEALED" by GOD, to the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) and Prophet Jesus(pbuh)
The difference being,the Bible WAS changed by men but the Quran can NOT be changed by men.
So "skip311" like I said,truth stands out clear from falsehood,and I'll always defend the Quran,NOT because I'm "required" to but because I want to!
IslamIssue 4 years ago 6
I don't have a typical Christian mentality. I would have said that the bible was infallible if I was the typical Christian. I also don't believe that there is ONE TRUE religion. That God sends people to Hell for not having the right religion. To assume such a thing is to be totally ignorant of what LOVE is. I think all religions have some good knowledge, yet all have been corrupted by men to suit their needs and wants. I also believe we are all children of God, Jesus came to show us that.
skipp311 4 years ago
Your defination of "LOVE" is truely lacking.
Assume someone says,I love you,but does everything that one does NOT like/want.Thus one would be like,'I do NOT need this kind of love'
The same is with God. God asked,us to do something,and you don't do,then you claim to love God,even though you disobey all the commands.This is NOT love but hypocrisy. Muslims believe ALL who do NOT follow the ONE TRUE religion of ISLAM will go to hell.If you use "children of God" as an expression I have no problems
IslamIssue 4 years ago 4
Your definition of love is twisted. Someday you'll wake up and see how foolish it is.
You would send your children into endless torment for not listening to you?
Twisted
skipp311 3 years ago
It is your children who are TWISTED....IF they claim to love you YET not listen to YOU...
Totally Twisted
IslamIssue 3 years ago 20
The moon does give off the light she reflects from the sun. She gives it at night in the respective parts of the world, that is the job of the moon, so the light she gives off can be referred to as hers. There are also deeper meanings to these verses. But to simplify..pick a better translation. "...the sun will be dark when it rises; and the moon will no longer shine." Your missing the big picture here...these things won't be shining on the great day of YHWY.
dgross563 3 years ago 4
This is what Muhammad observed and this is what he said. He stated what was obvious to him and to everyone else in his time who had no understanding of how the solar system works.
vterroe 4 years ago
So given the fact that it was believed that the SUN was STATIONERY just until just recently....
But the Quran says, NO the sun is rotating around its on axis...
It proves that ONLY God could know this!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
"on" should be "own"
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIssue, despite all of our disagreements in our ways of viewing points in our religions I hope that this will not make us less to being friends, ok. I appreciated all the views that you have share with me and once again thank you for the little discussion we have had earlier.
vterroe 4 years ago
But that STILL don't change the fact..the Bible preaches INCEST!!
INCEST in the BIBLE:
THE BIBLE SAYS, LOT HAD SEX WITH HIS "DAUGHTERS" AND GAVE BIRTH TO A SON EACH!!
Wow....
Father have sex with their daughters, ACCORDING TO THE "BIBLE"..
LOL!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
The Bible do not preaches Incest. The Bible is tell us what was going on at that time. But Neither GOD Nor the Bible itself Commended (Remember that word) you to do that. U see my point my friend? Moreover, Lot was drunked by his 3 daughters.
vterroe 4 years ago
Like We say, Thou Shall not drink Alcohol!!
LOL
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Qur'an 83:22 "The believers will be in Delightful Bliss: On couch-like thrones, gazing, their thirst will be slaked with pure wine." Your heaven even prepares you wine (LOL). Any bar to visit? What a BIG JOKE (LOL)
vterroe 4 years ago
No...bro....there'll be a lake of "pure wine"....the wine of heaven, that is the sweetest and one which does NOT make you drunk...
BUT..to drink this wine....you'll have to abstain the from the wine of this earth!!
LOL...the JOKE IS ON YOU!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
"here'll be a lake of "pure wine"....the wine of heaven, that is the sweetest and one which does NOT make you drunk..."
The wine of Heaven & does not make you drunk hahaha... this makes it more like a cartoon movie to make. Boy, some imaginaries done by Muhammad (LoL). Let me ask you a question, do you think they have a bar in your heaven? Common sense right? Women, boys, wine and bars will be a perfect heaven for Muslims (LoL)
vterroe 4 years ago
I'm SORRY...did I break your heart....lol.....Christians should be jealous....because:
YOU WILL BURN IN THE HELLFIRE FOR ETERNITY!!
So go worship your God, THAT EVEN YOU AGREE..
SHITS...PISSES....PRAYS...
LOL!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIssue, Why should I be jealous or have my heart broken. I should be happy that I have a better haven and a True GOD. Allah is full of lust and we know that True GOD is not. So, Allah=Satan, cause Satan teach people to be lustful (LoL)
vterroe 4 years ago
The you must, have a very good reason reason why, every muslim is asked to say, "I seek refuge from Satan, before reading the Quran."
((LOL!!))
Your pathetic little arguements...just show the way you think....LOL
IslamIssue 4 years ago
And ya, more than 20 million Coptic, arabic speaking CHRISTIANS translate "God" to "Allah", in their arabic BIBLES!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIssue, pls make a note that your allah and the Allah worship by the Christians and Jews in Arabs and some Muslim countries are meant to be different. I thought I send you the reason in your message at your profile. I can't explain it here cause the space is just too short.
vterroe 4 years ago
Bro,
You seriously don't understand english do you....
I said "translate"..I did NOT say...we believe in the "SAME GOD"...
And ya..by the way..the JEWS claim to NOT believe in the same God as you, Christians.
Proof: Go to my Profile, and see the video, "meaning of Allah"
Infact the "JEWS" believe that Jesus was a bastard child, and Mary was impregnated by the carpenters....
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIssue, I don't care for what the Jews are thinking. In fact they are the one who rejected Jesus and Crucify him, not the Arabs. I know that. But the fact that they are the CHOSEN ONES I respect that. The Bible said that GOD will have His own ways on dealing with the Jews at the Dooms Day. I respect that also. your vid on the meaning of Allah is meant for the Islamic Allah. Remember that Muhammad's family believes in pagan worships. Thus, Allah as the moon god's name is used by him too.
vterroe 4 years ago
The difference between you and me..is that you believe the Jews:"ARE the CHOSEN ONES"..
We believe that they WERE the chosen ones...
Next we both agree, the Jews betrayed Jesus, you believe Jesus was crucifed, we do NOT.
Lastly,Prophet Abraham's family had the business of selling IDOLS(in other words they were pagans)....
Therefore, what your family was does NOT prove ANYTHING!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIssue, the fact is Abdullah is a pagan worshiper and he is Muhammad's father, ok. That is why his name is Muhammad bin Abdullah. Abraham's family? Which family? oh right from the Ismail side (the ones who worship pagan)..."Prophet Abraham's family had the business of selling IDOLS(in other words they were pagans)...."
vterroe 4 years ago
"bin" means "son of" in english, in other words Muhammad the son of Abdullah.
I have already told you, that our Prophet Muhammad's father Addullah was a pagan, and Muhammad(pbuh) himself said that his father will be in the hellfire...
By Prophet Abraham's family, I mean his father was in the business of selling idols..and we muslims also believe that Prophet Abraham's father was a pagan and used to worship idols...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Quran21:33:"And it is Allah who has created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit floating."
So vterroe, your moon God arguement NEVER existed!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIssue, since you bring the issue on Quran21:33 I will tell you that this shows how wrong your Allah and Muhammad on the scientific evidence. scientifically the sun and the moon are rotating around their own axis. BUT The word here implies that the Sun and the Moon float in the sky around the Earth and not around their own axis. LOL
vterroe 4 years ago
I said, "each in an orbit floating"
So bro, just because you read my translation "orbit" you said it floats around the sky...
LOL bro, I didn't say my translation was perfect...now getting to the point....
The Quran also says the sun is the CENTRE of our solar system...so it would be pretty difficult the CENTRE to be float around the sky..don't you agree??..LOL
Thus word used means its rotating in its own axis...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
CENTRE should be CENTER
IslamIssue 4 years ago
The Quran uses the word Yasbahoon means swimming. By bundling the Moon and the Sun together, it is clear that Muhammad thought they are alike with one being brighter than the other.Attempts such as this, to twist the apparent meaning of the words reveal the desperation of Muslims to find miracles and science in the absurdities of the Qur'an and hide its errors.
vterroe 4 years ago
The more appropriate translation is "floating"...how is floating? SMOOTH
in other words the Quran is the Sun and Moon are floating in their axises..
Lol, bro the Quran says the Moon shines by the reflected light of the sun..
light described of the moon is 'Munir' which is borrowed light or 'Noor' which is a reflection of light....So bro, just coz you do NOT arabic your having all these problems..
Thus the QURAN IS 100% correct as usual....
IslamIssue 4 years ago
The light of the moon in the Bible:
Isa 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
The Bible verse says that moon shall not cause HER LIGHT to shine, meaning the moon has its own light.
IslamIssue 4 years ago
More errors about the light of the moon in the Bible:
Isaiah 30:26:Moreover the light of the moon shall be AS THE light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
Thus this verse is saying the SUN and MOON have THEIR OWN LIGHT!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Hahaha.. My dear brother the verse you quoted is nothing to do with a solar system. here you misinterpret the context of the verse. those verse is a promise of GOD for Sion. How in the world can you say it talks about the solar system (LoL).
vterroe 4 years ago
Hahaha???LOL...read it again the LORD(GOD) is promising the people of Zion/Sion...BUT what is the LORD promising:
"26 The moon will shine like the sun, and the sunlight will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven full days, when the LORD binds up the bruises of his people and heals the wounds he inflicted"
In other words the Lord(GOD) is promising Sion that God will make the "The moon will shine like the sun...."
Which is UNTRUE.....as the moon does NOT have light of its own!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Certainly IslamIssue, has no knowledge on the Bible and yet he tries to be boastful thinking that he know what the context mean (LOL). IslamIssue, u r out of context for trying to interpret the verse literally.
vterroe 4 years ago
Boastful thinking....I have given you solid proof....and all vterroe can accuse me of is BOASTFUL thinking!!
Maybe, vterroe would be better of accusing God of WRONGFUL THINKING((LOL)....
then vterroe says that I've taken the verse "out of context" which is UNTRUE....the he says that I'm trying to interpret the verse literally: I'm just say what YOUR GOD literally said in the BIBLE!!LOL
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Solid proof? of What? You have given me nothing at all but your way of misinterpreting the context of the verse. Face it kid you lose the battle before it even begins. LoL
vterroe 4 years ago
I may be a "kid"...but you peak like a foolish old blind man....I lose the battle:JOKE..
I freaking annihilated you, Mr.CIA..LOL
Your just making FOOL of YOURSELF by "PRETENDING TO BE *BLIND*!!
Please explain Isaiah 13:10:
10 The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light.The rising sun will be darkened and *THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT*.
This CLEARLY SHOWS THE ERRORS IN THE BIBLE!!
LOL!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Isaiah 13: A Prophecy Against Babylon
Please explain Isaiah 13:10:
10 The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light.The rising sun will be darkened and THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT.
This CLEARLY SHOWS THE ERRORS IN THE BIBLE!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
INCEST in the BIBLE:
THE BIBLE SAYS, LOT HAD SEX WITH HIS "DAUGHTERS" AND GAVE BIRTH TO A SON EACH!!
Wow....Fathers have sex with their daughters, ACCORDING TO THE "BIBLE"...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Next, the Christian...ducks my questions about "HIS" comment 'ofcourse God is OMNIPRESENT(EVERYWHERE)....
So this Christian is sacred to answer why he believe "HIS God" is "IN SHIT"..."IN THE BROTHEL"..."IN THE SEWER"...
HE ALWAYS refuses to respond to my comment, LOT HAD SEX WITH HIS DAUGHTERS, ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE...
Instead, he tries to "guide" me away...by posting more questions....
IS HE SACRED....THE WORD OF GOD HAS "INCEST" in it!!
Or that "his" GOD IS IN SHIT??
IslamIssue 4 years ago
GOD is OMNIPRESENT, YES. He is everywhere. At least my GOD is. That's why I do not need a special place for my GOD to be available for me. Even those place that IslamIssue said. Thus, even at the worst places, If I come to Him and do my repentance full heartedly, He will be there to answer my pray. Thank GOD for I have the kind of GOD.
vterroe 4 years ago
Thank you, for proving my point....
Your beliefs are just like the pagan Hindus who believe that GOD IS EVERYWHERE...
That means GOD IS IN "EVERY ATOM"...
IN THE SWINE....IN EVERY MOLECULE OF SHIT...
need I say more...
THAT MEAN GOD IS "IN THE RAPIST"...
IN OTHER WORDS "GOD RAPES"...
AND COMMITS ALL OTHER CRIMES!!
Thank GOD I do NOT believe in such a GOD!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIssue, you certainly try to twist the meaning of the word or is because you are ignorant of the real meaning of it. OMNIPRESENCE, is basically He has no limitation over the place He wants to be. He can be everywhere. Unlike your God, I'm sure he is very limited on to where he wants to be. Why? Cause your GOD live in Mecca in a form of an idol my friend. You see my point now LOL
vterroe 4 years ago
Now the Christian says,
OMNIPRESENT means, his GOD from time to time POSSESSES STUFF...and goes on vactions on earth....
WELL GUESS WHAT??
Our God....does NOT LIVE IN OR VISIT what he CREATED for his CREATION!!
LOL...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIssue, face the fact man that your god can't go anywhere cause he is just a stone man. An idol that lives in Mecca. OOppps, I mean which stay put in Mecca LoL.
vterroe 4 years ago
JOKER...
I'm telling you what we believe and don't belive..
But ofcourse your free to think as you will
YOU believe in YOUR 'SON GOD Jesus'...that used to shit and piss...
IMAGINE A GOD shitting and pissing!!
LOL!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIsuue, He can do all those things because He is in a humanly body form. That is perfectly normal. But that does not make Him less GOD. Even your Quran says that He is Holy (Sura 19:19) and He cannot be touched by Satan (Bukhari 3177). Unlike your Allah, he is a Pedophile and gay (Sura 76:19) . That's is why Muhammad acted the same way as his Allah (LOL)
vterroe 4 years ago
"HE AGREES": "GOD CAN SHIT"..."GOD CAN PISS"!!
"vterroe: He can do all those things"
Perhaps this joker, forgot his, "Lord's Prayer"..."THY" will be done....NOT "MY" will OR "OUR" will..
OR why "Jesus" FELL ON HIS FACE AND PRAYED...
IMAGINE "A GOD" PRAYING TO "A GOD"...LOL
I have already explained Surah 19:19, can't these christians READ!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Now lets see what Surah 76:19 says:
"And round about the spring Salsabil will be servant boys of everlasting youth. If you see them, you would think them scattered pearls."
Basically this ayah(verse) is saying in Paradise, there will be IMMORTAL SERVANT BOYS, that look like scattered pearls...
How this CHRISTIAN comes up with the GAY comment is beyond a sane person's reason...LOL
BUT YA....
THE BIBLE SAYS, LOT HAD SEX WITH HIS DAUGHTERS..."INCEST".....
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Hahaha...can you see that verse is actually is a promise by your Allah to give fresh male youths for Muslim men. That is so SICK! LoL
vterroe 4 years ago
vterrore....
Do you understand the meaning of "SERVANT"!!
SERVANT means, someone(male/female) who works for you...
Now..I did NOT know you CHRISTIANS...HAVE SEX WITH ALL YOUR MALE SERVANTS...
LOL, It just shows your demented personality...THIS IS "SICK"!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIssue, some servants that your allah prepares for you in that "heaven". Just like those virgin angels with big eyes, etc.. to serve you there. What kind of servants that your Allah will allow you to do to them since they are there to serve you, right? SOME LUSTFUL HEAVEN you've got there.. LOL
vterroe 4 years ago
vterroe,
Ya bro...thanks for informing..newaz, goning by your present state...It seems you'll be spending eternity in the HELLFIRE...
Newaz bro,I'll pray for you..my job is to inform you of the truth...its up to you to accept or reject it...bye..bye....
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Qur'an 55:46 "For him who lives in terror of his Lord are two Gardens containing delights: shade, two fountains flowing, fruits in pairs. Reclining on carpets lined with silk brocade, fruits hanging low. In them virginal females with averted glances (desiring none but you), underflowered by men or jinn. Is the reward of goodness aught but goodness?"
Some Heaven (LoL)
vterroe 4 years ago
Ya, some Heaven....YEA!!
Too bad for you...your gonna miss the fun....
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Hahahaha... IslamIssue, admits that the Islamic heaven and his Allah are nothing but a lustful place to live, rules by a lustful god (LoL)
vterroe 4 years ago
I admit that Heaven will be brilliant, as described in the Quran.
I admit that God has no sons or daughters, I admit God can NOT be begotten.
I admit that God is NOT omnipresent.
I ADMIT,going by your present state YOU WILL BURN IN THE HELLFIRE FOR ETERNITY!!
And thanks for reminding me what a nice I'll have in Heaven..really appreciate it
So you too Have a nice time BURNING in HELL FOR ETERNITY...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Acts 19:23-41 mentions a religion that worshipped the great goddess Artemis and her meteorite which fell down from heaven. Taking note that this religion centered around a meteorite, my question is: is it possible that this is a pagan corruption of the Black Stone and meteorite that fell at the foot of Adam and that at the time of Christ the Black Stone was actually in Ephesus Asia minor?
vterroe 4 years ago
First of all, NO muslim worships the Black Stone...and Islam is not centered around meteorites....
And we muslims do NOT believe the now, black stone to be a meteorite..
Next, we muslims believe that the "black stone", is from Heaven, and was originally white...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIssue, you said that you don't worship the Black Stone or the Ka'bah? You must be joking man. let me ask you a simple question. Which direction do you do your prayer? Towards those things man..Why? It's just like a Buddhist prays towards his idol. You don't say you worship that? Then why can't you face towards something else? Maybe a tree in-front of your house. Is it, ok? What a BIG JOKE (LOL). Don't deny the fact man..
vterroe 4 years ago
The Christian now..refuses to reply to comment and poses another comment...
GET this clear...NO muslim worships the Black Stone OR the Kaaba...
IF any "muslim" told you this, tell him I said he is an APOSTATE..
We muslims "FACE" the Kaaba...because we commanded by God to do so, because this SYMBLOZIES UNITY and ONE method of prayer..
AND because we do NOT believe GOD is EVERYWHERE!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIsuue, let me quote you, "We muslims "FACE" the Kaaba...because we commanded by God to do so ..." Your God as you put it COMMANDED YOU. Hahaha... so you admit that he asked you or forces you to worship him LOL.
vterroe 4 years ago
LOL...your situation is pathetic...you can't come up with something else but this....
BYE...BYE...CHRISTIAN....
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslaIssue, you are the one who ask me to response to your question. Now I am stating the truth and you can't bare to handle that. See who is pathetic now LoL
vterroe 4 years ago
IslamIssue, you claim that the Angel Gabriel is the Holy Spirit who came upon Mary and caused her to conceive. My question is: If this is true, then why did Gabriel say to Mary in Luke 1:35, "the power of the Holy Spirit will come upon you" rather than "my power will come upon you"?
vterroe 4 years ago
Angel Gabriel did NOT cause Mary to concieve...so do NOT twist and turn my words..
The "word" of God was placed in Mary..
Simple explanation: 'God says, BE ..and IT IS..'
Next, you Christians should really make of your minds which part of the Bible you want to follow...Because "Jesus" says in the BIBLE the 'Holy Spirit' can NOT come unless he leaves..
but we see the Holy Spirit...keeps on making sneak previews....
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIsuue, you said "The "word" of God was placed in Mary.." Good. Now I ask you, as you put it that way, The WORD OF GOD that made Mary to to Conceive, thus , isn't right if I tell you that the WORD then became Human (Jesus). And cause the WORD OF GOD is GOD alone, then that very being (Jesus) = GOD.
As for the Holy Spirit, Jesus meant to say that the Holy Spirit manifests to the people after Jesus has risen and back to Heaven only. That is being fulfilled even till now.
vterroe 4 years ago
I explained to YOU what I mean by the "word" of God: Simple explanation: 'God says, BE ..and IT IS..'
Any person can see I mean the WILL of God...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIsuee, the Will of GOD is not the same as the WORD of GOD. Don't try to twist the meaning. Hei.., we are speaking English, ok. Not Indian.. LOL
vterroe 4 years ago
INCEST IN THE BIBLE:
Genesis19: 30 to 38:
Lot's two daughters have sex with him(their father) and give birth to a son each....
And the Christians call it "the word of God"!!
LOL
IslamIssue 4 years ago
INCEST IN THE BIBLE:
Genesis 19:30 to 36:
Lot's two daughters have SEX with THEIR FATHER
and give birth to a son each!!
And the Christians call it the "word of God"...LOL
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Worshiping at Kabah,Praying 5 x a day towards Mecca (Muhammad chose 5 of the same times the Sabeans prayed).Fasting for part of a day for an entire month.Muhammad derived some of his ideas from Eastern religions,i.e Zoroastrianism and Hinduism.These things were in existence long before Muhammad was born.The story of a flying trip through 7 heavens.The Houries of paradise.The "light" of Muhammad.Paradise with its wine, women, and song (from the Persians).The peacock story.
vterroe 4 years ago
"Jesus" used to fast too(accord. to the Bible)
and how did Jesus(Your God) pray(accd. 2 Bible)??
By prostating to the ground..Next, we believe that Jesus prostated towards Jerusaleum(as commanded by God back then)...
Our Proof: Jesus would NOT just be prostating everywhere....because that would mean "GOD IS EVERYWHERE"...which is a pagan belief...
We Sacrifice animals: In honour of the sacrifice Abraham was about to make..this was also done by Cain and Able..
IslamIssue 4 years ago
1st of all, Jesus was never praying towards Jerusalem (where is the scripture that says that?). As he was kneeling on the ground not to the ground (LoL). and of course GOD is OMNIPRESENT (Every where). Well except of course your Allah who built his home in the earth at Mecca (LoL). So, in other words your heaven is just an airplane ticket's away (LoL).
vterroe 4 years ago
I didn't say the Bible says Jesus prayed facing towards Jerusalem, I said we believe this..
One of the examples that Jesus prayed like the muslims, with his forehead to the the ground: Matthew 26:39 "And he (Jesus) went a little farther,and FELL ON HIS FACE(means prostated), and prayed.." So LOL more at "Jesus"
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Next,the Kaaba is NOT the House of Allah.
It is a house commanded to be built by Allah, we muslims believe it was first built by Prophet Abraham.
Allah is on his throne ABOVE the seven heavens....
And heaven is not a aeroplane ticket away...
Next, YOU have condemned YOURSELF by saying God is "OMNIPRESENT(EVERYWHERE)"....
That means according to you, God is:
"IN THE GARBAGE"..."IN THE SEWER"..."IN THE BROTHEL"..."IN SHIT"...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Fasting is good. I admit that. Both spiritually and physically. But how you fast makes the difference. Fasting for part of a day for an entire month on a special month. That is a pagan belief.
Animals Sacrifice was done and ok in the early time. Do you know the message behind that? Sacrifice of the Lamb is a symbol of Jesus who was crucified on the cross.
vterroe 4 years ago
We can argue forever about fasting and sacrifice.....
And "message" behind it...
Like I said, we believe Prophet Abraham(pbuh)
taught Arabs God's message...but over time they corrupted it...
The only reply I have for you is, we were commanded by God to do it and we do it....
IslamIssue 4 years ago
How does the Bible being corrupted? Do you have any hard evidences or simply just imagining :-). As the Quran, it has been changed from its original for few times.
1. Caliph Uthman ordered the Qur'an collected into one volume: Hadith 709 & 507.The Qur'an had not been collected into one volume prior the third Caliph, some 25 years after Muhammad's death but Some translation was necessary to put portions of it back into the Quarish dialect.
vterroe 4 years ago
1st,Your own scholars have admitted the Bible has been corrupted...You click on my profile and watch part 8 to see with your own eyes one of your scholars admitting to this...
Next,Unlike you Christians we Muslims memorize the Quran...
And we know that Caliph Usman ordered the Quran to be "complied" into one volume..
Next you use the word,"translation"...well sorry disappoint you..but Usman was there with the Prophet..thus he knew the "dialect" in which it was originally reveled...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
1.Contrary to Muslim claims, some verses HAD NOT been memorized by everyone: Hadith 511
2.Muhammad one night, riode on a winged horse that drove him from Masjidu'lHaram to Msjidu'l Aqsa (in Jerusalem)Quran 17:1.The biggest problem with this story: Masjid'ul Aqsa "Farthest Mosque" was built after the death of Muhammad.Whoever wrote verse 17:1, was not aware that Masjid ul Aqsa did not exist during the time of Muhammad & he could not have made his trip to heaven from a place that did not exist.LOL
vterroe 4 years ago
1.Contrary to Muslim claims, some verses HAD NOT been memorized by everyone: Hadith 511
2.Muhammad one night, rode on a winged horse that drove him from Masjidu'lHaram to Msjidu'l Aqsa (in Jerusalem)Quran 17:1.The biggest problem with this story: Masjid'ul Aqsa "Farthest Mosque" was built after the death of Muhammad.Whoever wrote verse 17:1, was not aware that Masjid ul Aqsa did not exist during the time of Muhammad & he could not have made his trip to heaven from a place that did not exist.LOL
vterroe 4 years ago
1. Perhaps you should read that again, it was memorized by Abi Khuzaima Al-Ansari.
2. Masjid'ul Aqsa was built by Prophet Dawood(pbuh) and was renovated and expanded by Prophet Solomon(pbuh)....so yes sweet heart it did exist..LOL
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Islamissue, you certainly do not know your Quran and don't do your research well.Let me help you then.
1. Masjidu'l Aqsa was built on the Temple Mount by the end of the 7th century.53years after Muhammad's death. This is reported in The Concise Encyclopedia of Islam, Harper & Row, 1989, p. 46 and 102.
2."Masjid' means any place of worship (sojda), that is why the prophet refers to the temple of Solomon as Masjid.
vterroe 4 years ago
Its like you don't do your research well,
worship does NOT sojda in arabic worship can be roughly translated as ebadaah and the place you call the "temple of solomon" is "Masjid ul Aqsa". Wow bro, Harper & Row(probably Christians) are gonna teach us Islamic history.2ndly, Jerusleum was conquered within 12 years of the death of Prophet,when Umar(ra) was the Caliph and what you are referring to merely the RE-BUILDING,similarly,the Kaaba too was RE-BUILT many times after the death of the Prophet..
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Bukhari V4B55N636; This hadith presents yet another problem. Masjid'ul Haram (Ka'ba) was allegedly built by Abraham. He lived about 2000 BC and the Temple of Solomon (the site of the Msjid ul'Aqsa) was built about 958-951 BC. There is a gap of about over 1040 years between the dates of the construction of the two buildings. His holiness Muhammad's mistake was a mere one thousand years.
Wow.. TOO MUCH CONTRADICTIONS IN REAL TIME LIFE. So you know which 1 is corrupted now (LOL)
vterroe 4 years ago
bro,
Masjid'ul Haram is NOT the Kaaba...
So get your facts right....
The Kaaba is NOT a Masjid(mosque).....
Need I say more....(LOL)
IslamIssue 4 years ago
2. Claims that the Qur'an was collected during Muhammad's life are contradicted by one who is alleged to have collected it. Compare with Hadith 201 of Volume 6
3. Zaid bin Thabit Al-Ansari's First Account of the Compilation of the Qur'an: Hadith 201
4. Zaid bin Thabit's Second Account of the Collection of the Qur'an: Hadith 509
7. There seems to be a conflict in the claims as to when the Qur'an was collected, and there was not a generally accepted version available: Hadith 525 & 526.
vterroe 4 years ago
i beg ti differ the sacrafice of the lamb was way before prophet jesus peace be upon him his virgin mother and all of his TRUE followers
wantpeace777 4 years ago
Yes, it was way before Jesus. But the Sacrifice of the lamb is done by those people in the Old Testaments including the prophets is a symbol of the coming Jesus who would be crucified on a cross for Jesus is also called the Lamb of GOD.The sacrificial of a lamb is a communion between GOD and men.
vterroe 4 years ago
Those are legends for GOD sake... Why your Quran supposedly your holy books cause it is the words of Allah consists these kinds of legends and fables? Why? Could it be the book is just an ordinary book that consist nothing of the word of the REAL GOD?Muhammad incorporated parts of the religion of the Sabeans into Islam (Encyclopedia off Islam (ed. Eliade), pp. 303ff.He adopted such pagan rituals as:
vterroe 4 years ago
I do NOT think this sounds like a LEGEND:
BIBLE: EARTH IS FLAT!
Daniel 4:10-11 In Daniel, the king "..there was a tree in the midst of the earth and its height was great"
"The tree grew large and became strong
And its height reached to the sky,
And it was visible to the end of the whole earth"
This is ONLY possible WHEN the Earth is: "FLAT"
A sufficiently tall tree would be visible from the earth's farthest bounds, but this is IMPOSSIBLE on a spherical earth!!
I HOPE you got the point!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Islamisuue; this is what I mean. You are trying to twist the context. The scripture says that the King Nabukadnezar had a dream which then Daniel translated the meaning of his dream. A dream ...Do you know what it means? (LoL)
vterroe 4 years ago
One of the MANY ERRORS IN THE BIBLE:
Ahaziah's father Jehoram died at age 40 (2 Chronicles 21:20)
2 Chronicles 22:2—"Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign...."
So the Father Jehoram is 2 years YOUNGER than his SON!!!!!
Bible: Word of God??
Hahaha!!
It can NOT even be the word of crazy Hollywood Director!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
The discrepancy in ages is due to a copyist error. We can see that the difference in ages is 20 years. The system of number notation used by the Jews at the time of Ezra consisted of horizontal hooks that represented decades. The first symbol would equal the number 14 where the second would be 24. If one or both of the hooks were smudged or flaked off of a papyri, then the dates would be off by ten years or a factor of ten.
vterroe 4 years ago
Do you know who actually is Imam Mahdi? That will be Jesus. Remember in your Qur'an Muhammad said that Isah (Jesus) will be the One who will comeback to the earth to give the Judgments on mankinds. Why Isah (Jesus)? Why not the LORD Himself? Or is it the same way of saying that Isah (Jesus) is the LORD Himself? Cause only The One who is not sinned can give judgments on others.
vterroe 4 years ago
In the Quran it says that Issa will return and lead the followers of God. Before Issa appears there will be a man in charge of "true" Islam and will lead Muslims down the right path. Dajjal will also be around in human form leading the non believers (Anti-Christ). Issa will appear at the right place, at the right time and will slay dajjal. Issa will make it clear that he has returned to guide his people down the right path. Islam says Issa is a prophet and Christianity says Issa is a God.
nazm01 4 years ago
vterroe-----Let me guess, you're "ANOTHER EXPERT" on Islam? LOL. Your own Pat Robertson himself reported there will be TWO men coming around the same time. One will be Jesus, they other he "wasn't sure of". Both wil do good things.
Prophet Muhammad told the Muslims of Imam Mahdi coming who will be a direct descendent of his bloodline. He will lead and clean up the Muslims first, THAN Jesus will come to clean up the Christians.
Your blasphemous ways will not corrupt Allah's Guidance.
lkaa2 4 years ago
Ikaa2, you do not have to guess cause I was a muslim before and had the opportunity to study what the Quran and Haddith teaches.
Anyway, the Bible says that before the Day of the Judgment or in the Anti-Christ era, two people who will be coming are Moses and Elijah. Not like you said Jesus and another person LoL. Jesus will only come later on the Judgment Day as the LORD and He will be the Supreme Judge over Mankind.
So don't twist what the Bible says just like what your Muhammad always did :-)
vterroe 4 years ago
vterroe---only Allah knows the truths of every person. IF you were Muslim than you'd know of the Mahdi. THAN AGAIN, Muslims too are ignorant when it comes to the depths of Islamic knowledge. The fact you now fell and worship a human shows this.
RE-READ my previous post. I heard Pat Robertson say this on TV many years ago (90s) during one of his CBN shows when I was Christian. I clearly remember this b/c it made me curious. I even emailed CBN on his lecture, but never got a response back.
lkaa2 4 years ago
Ikaa2, we have to agree that how Jesus was being born in this world not through sexual intercourse but by Kalimattullah (The Word of God). Look at that. Jesus is so unique. If Adam is made frm dust. Hawa (Eve) is made from Adam's rib. We are made by the sexual relationship of our parents. But this Jesus is by the Word Of GOD. Isn't the Word of GOD is GOD Himself? 1 more thing pls read your Haddith no 3177 that clearly stated everyone will be touched by satan except Marry and her son, Jesus.
vterroe 4 years ago
Funny how "YOUR GOD"....made his mother IMPURE for 40 days!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
What do you mean made IMPURE? Your Quran and Haddith clearly stated how PURE and HOLY the Baby Jesus is. Thus because of Him, His "mother" -Marry -and Himself cannot be touched by Satan. Compare to your Muhammad who was touched by Satan only proves that he neither is holy nor a real prophet (LoL).
vterroe 4 years ago
Your loling just symbolizes your arrogance...
As IMPURE, YOUR Bible says all women will be IMPURE for 40 DAYS after GIVING BIRTH TO A MALE CHILD and 80 DAYS for GIVING BIRTH TO A FEMALE:
Leviticus 12:1-4
Apparently, your "Man God" forgot to tell the PEOPLE "from his own mouth:"I'm God, worship me"
KHALAS!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
(LoL) This doe not mean it can be applied for baby Jesus. Why? Cause, Jesus was created differently. Not through the matting of two people but through the Word Of GOD (Kallimatullah). That fact is stated in your Quran. That what makes him different. He is Holy. Unlike your Muhammad.(LoL)
vterroe 4 years ago
Your right about the not matting part, even though your Bible says he's "begotten"...
BUT the last I remembered YOUR God, "Jesus" was BORN the SAME WAY everyone else back then was born from a woman....
We muslims too believe this...
So do NOT twist and turn, muslim beliefs to fit YOUR understanding....
As for "Jesus" being "holy" YOUR "God the Father" calls HIM[Jesus] a "WORM" in YOUR Bible...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
1st of all not only my Bible, but your Quran says that Jesus is Holy (Sura 19 verse 19).Do you know what the word HOLY means? Who can be Holy except the GODD alone. So, is Quran also trying to say that Jesus=GOD? It is your Quran that say that (LoL).
2nd, where in the Bible that God the Father calls Jesus a "Worm"? So me the scripture.
I bet your kind of people like to speak without having evidences huh? (LoL)...
vterroe 4 years ago
Lets see, what Surah 19:19 The angel said(to Mary): "I am only a Messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a holy/righteous son."
Even though this argument never existed, since you've brought it down to this level: HOLY simply means religious/rightious...Its like me saying a particular man is very holy...
If you don't know this much/or are in a serious habit of taking "words" OUT OF CONTEXT...I have no words for you...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Islamissue, you said,"HOLY simply means religious/rightious.: (LoL) Where in the world did you get that meaning? Do u understand English? Holy means: Sacred, Worthy of Worship, Saint (American Heritage Dictionary). So pls, do not try to twist and turn your words just to justify your way of thinking. Stay with the fact! Where else in Quran that says any other prophets or people that is HOLY except JESUS. None.WHY?
vterroe 4 years ago
Do do you understand arabic???
The word YOU translated as "holy"....in ARABIC simply means "rightious"....
But I'm sorry...what more can I expect from Christians who TRANSLATE THE "NAMES OF PEOPLE"!!
So bro, your simply making a fool of your self arguing with me about "HOLY"!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Book of Job, 25:6:"How much less is man, who is but a maggot- and the Son of Man, who is only a worm."
"JESUS" is reffered to as the "SON OF MAN" in YOUR Bible 83 times, and as the son of God 13 times...
So YOUR Bible is calling YOU and ME "MAGGOTS" and calling "JESUS" "A WORM"....
And people like us: MUSLIMS, do NOT twist and turn and take "RANDOM TRANSLATED WORDS" out of sentences unlike you...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIsuue, You do have a serious problem on trying to translate the meaning of the context in Job 25:6. This context is simply said about the opinion of Bildad for no human is rightous in the eyes of the LORD. Nothing more. But Job answered him in Job Chapter 26-27. Read the whole things before u give your misleading comments (LoL). Typical Muslim you r a joke, just like your religion (LoL)
vterroe 4 years ago
Ya, thats what YOUR Bible is made up of, "opinions" and "according to".....
Some calling us maggots....some calling "Jesus" a worm..
IslamIssue 4 years ago
That is simply a person giving out his thought or opinion. What's wrong with that. Unlike Muhammad which facts shows that he is a Child Molester/ Pedophile (Tabari IX:131), Lustful & perverted (Bukhari:V4B52N211), having sexual fantasies (Bukhari:V9B87N139-40), A Racist (Bukhari:V4B52N137)and etc... (LoL)
vterroe 4 years ago
Find out the name of the person you'll TRANSLATE as "JESUS"
Coz,they did NOT speak ENGLISH back then,but spoke HEBREW and there is NO "J"
in hebrew, so well done on the translation job,what more can we expect from christians, whose BIBLE says in one place the EARTH is FLAT,then says its a CIRCLE,and also adds its SUPPORTED BY PILLARS!
Wow!Have a nice time living on a DVD shaped earth(round and flat) supported by pillars, makes sense too coz you can't support a spherical earth by PILLARS!JOKE!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
IslamIss,Quran=cartoon.The Quran says men were turned into apes because they broke the Sabbath.Ths was popular in Muhammad's day(Suras 2:65; 7:163-166)."The story of the she-camel who leapt out of a rock and became a prophet was known long be4 Muhammad"(Suras 7:73-77,85; 91:14; 54:29).In what is called the "Rip Van Winkle" story, 7 men & their animals slept for 309 years in a cave & then woke up perfectly fine(Sura 18:9-26)!Legend is found in Greek and Christian fables as well as Arabian lore.
vterroe 4 years ago
Yes, I aggree with you God turned men into apes..So I agree with your quotes "Surahs 2:65; 7:163-166"
Next 'vterrore' the, 'camel who leapt out of a rock of the rock and REMAINED A CAMEL..
So nice work INVENTING the "became a prophet" part
Next, you quote 91:14 but you FORGOT to read 91:13??Should I explain more..lol
Next you quote, 54.29:well guess what:
In arabic we have male and female for camels too...and the word used here is for a FEMALE CAMEL...so we know they killed a female camel!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Islamissue, my point is not whether you agree with what I have quoted to you earlier about those legends and fables but with this kind of stories do you actually think that the Quran is fit to be called the Word of GOD?
vterroe 4 years ago
Yes, the QURAN is the ONLY "EXISTING" UNCORRUPTED WORD OF GOD!!
Simple explanation:
For example we both believe Jesus raised the dead(how he did it, is where we differ), similarly if you OR me were speaking to a atheist..we could crak our heads and still not make him believe this!!
The so called contradictions you are coming up with can NOT be verified by either YOU OR ME....
While ALL the contradictions I am coming up with can be verified by ALL OF US: MORE TO COME!!
Need I explain more...
IslamIssue 4 years ago
So again, Islamissue, your really have an issue here for not understanding my simple description of the word Holy here. I strictly quoted from YOUR QURAN. Your Quran says Holy, WHY? can you answer that? Is your Quran lying when it says that? Remember that Quran is the message directly from Allah, not Muhammad.
As for Begotten, it is a past participle of beget which means to cause to exist (The American Heritage Dictionary) . What's wrong with that? LoL.
vterroe 4 years ago
BEGET/BEGOTTEN means:
Etymology: Middle English begeten, alteration of beyeten, from Old English bigietan -- more at GET
1 : to PROCREATE as the father : SIRE
2 : to produce especially as an effect or outgrowth
NOW, lets see the thesaurus entry for BEGET:
Synonyms FATHER, breed, get, procreate, progenerate, sire
Synonyms PROCREATE 1, bear, breed, generate, multiply, produce, propagate, reproduce
[Britinaca]
In other words, to BEGET is an ANIMAL/HUMAN act of having SEX!!
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Read the Hebrew translation. Some Hebrew words are hard to be translated into other language while often they are impossible to be translated to. Anyway, you do have to agree that according to the Qur'an, 'Isa was the Messiah. He was supported by the 'Holy Spirit'. (Al-Baqarah 2:87; Al-Ma'idah 5:110) He is also referred to as the 'Word of Allah'. (An-Nisa' 4:171).
vterroe 4 years ago
Again "vterroe", you read the translated version of the Bible in English, and you THINK you can point out mistakes...
I 'holy spirit' which is probably should be in brackets...simply means "angel Gabriel"....
I have NO problem in referring to "Jesus" as the Word of Allah...because we muslims believe that Jesus spoke in matters of religion was the 'word of Allah'...
Bro, I have a Hebrew speaking muslim as my best buddy...so please pause the psychological effects..
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Bible should be Quran
IslamIssue 4 years ago
Don't believe in mahdi, believe in Messiah
12343590 4 years ago
Don't believe in mahdi, believe in Messiah
12343590 4 years ago
1234-----Muslims already believe in the Messiah, and await his return!
lkaa2 4 years ago
Ikaa2, u said,"...Muslims already believe in the Messiah, and await his return!" You are 1000% right on that word ..and await HIS RETURN. That means the Messiah was here before and now He is gone and WILL RETURN. Isn't that Messiah's name will be best to be put as JESUS. LoL
vterroe 4 years ago
vterroe--the lack of knowledge regarding Islam falls in your court. We Muslims love Jesus (Essa correctly) MORE than you do, and await his return. He is our brother in Islam------yes he is a MUSLIM---one who submits to Allah. That is precisely what he did as did the other messengers and prophets did. He will stand in line for prayer with his fellow Muslim brothers. Perhaps you'll be alive to witness this?
lkaa2 4 years ago
Ikaa2, isn't that funny when you said that Jesus is a Muslim? Do you know when Islam was being proclaimed as a religion? Do you know when the Islamic calender starts? Hahaha.... I tell you friend, do a lot of researches then come back to me and make your statements. Otherwise, you will just making a fool out of yourself with your ignorant statements (LoL)
vterroe 4 years ago
vterroe---for supposedly being an ex-Muslim, you are wholly ignorant of the definition of Muslim. ONE who submits to Allah's Will. YES JESUS IS A MUSLIM well b4 Islam was completed.
Every prophet taught the basics of Islam b4 it was completed through P. Muhammad.
Allah is a Witness to your failure vterroe.
lkaa2 4 years ago
Typical muslim.. you're a joke, just like your religion. LoL
vterroe 4 years ago
atririshi
You must have been born on a highway cuz thats where most accidents happen.
1111111555555 4 years ago
you are a bastard born out when your mother was fucked by a wolf and the wolf was no other that american soldiers who fuck muslim women.
you are all terrorists and puedophlies just like your prophet
atririshi 4 years ago
all bull shit, your allha is a puedophile and your prophet and founder is criminal murderer
atririshi 4 years ago
atririshi----you are profoundly foolish. Allah is our Creator. Prophet Muhammad was nowhere near a criminal nor a murder. Go learn.
lkaa2 4 years ago
you are not just ignorant but a nazi brat who has no better stuff to do but to spead the false propoganda of the false prophet and convert or kill those who don't belive in the religion of the anti christ the satan mohammed
atririshi 4 years ago
atririshi-----LOL. You are yet another "expert" on Islam.
God is our Witness to your foolery.
lkaa2 4 years ago 4