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  • @adammy3 apperantly you dont know any rich people I would have to explain why he donates to charity but im pretty sure you can google it.... and btw he dosent do it because he is a nice person he does it to save his money... again google it

  • woah woah woah....80 gig flash? You have my attention if its not $300 dollars. I have a 120gb and I treat it like a damn king but the other day the hard drive just quit all of a sudden when I tried to switch songs...hasn't been dropped, spilled upon, bumbed hard or any other form of abuse. It just makes loud scratching noise and beeps now with a #5 error screen. I would gladly switch to flash if they get it! no more hard drive fails (p.s. my 120 was only 2 years old and gently used.)

  • Zune is a piece of shit. I fix computers etc for a living and this turd is unfixable. Thanks for selling me a pretty paperweight, asshole.

  • I don't care if you guys like the Zune or not.

    Thumbs up for Bill Gates!!!

  • @adammy3 ya and he wants to **** millions of ppl by letting there windows crash or notifying them they have ilegale windows

  • i think bill is so much more likeable than steve jobs eventhough apple has great products

  • You dont have to belive in your goverment to be a good american yu just have to belive in your country

  • Or u cud just say fuck it all and fucking no regrets.

  • Well i still belive that Microsoft is endorsing poberty making stuff, that demandas service packs to get fixed, and in some cases licesing other updates with a high cost value, im just saying why in earth cant they just make something good like Mac, sure Microsoft sells more, but everyone allways complains about their shitty products, mac in the oder hand sells less, but the acomplished quality in their line of production, so dont be a fucking loser, and buy a Mac

  • bill gates should suck my big anacondAN Dick, instead of making, sucking machines like the zune, and the xbox 360, well im kind of mad with the 360, because its my 5 console, and guess what it still sucks, for the zune i have one, and guess, that shit bricks sucks eve whorse than the 360, so my only guess is microsoft you better pull back together, because you suck baby chuncks

  • I have both, and they work fine.

  • yeah, my Zune HD works just fine...I love it!

  • sure ipod may be better but microsoft computers are way better than pathetic slow ass cheap apple computer.this is why Bill gate is the wealthiest man on earth. think about it.

  • i dont like apple products beside the touch thats all and the computers cost all most double hp"s and they suck

  • well maybe if you had proper grammar

    people could actually make sense of what you wrote

    apple computers do not suck (what basis is this from?)

    and where on earth do you assume HP a better branded computer?

    you fail the internet.

  • watch the zune break like the 360 lol

  • looooool that would be funny

  • The zune's gui is shit, the software is shit,

    Microsoft no longer knows the meaning of "Ease of use" or "Intuitive"...

    if you have a choice, DONT BUY A ZUNE!

  • Microsoft makes it's products for people that have a clue about technology! Apple is more after attracting the total opposite, you know the kind that are tools in society, morons basically.

    Zune is most intuitive piece of MP3 player on the market, if you can't see that then i feel sorry for you.

  • you have one thing right, "Zune is the most piece of MP3 crap player on the market"

    Your a nub

  • because i wanted to know someting about the zune

    apple wannabe

  • cause he finds it's very enjoyable and amusing to see how apple actually pwns microsoft products.

    i know pride kills, but ipod does outrun zune. no offense

  • explain how it does this and dont compare the zune to the itouch or iphone because they are mini computers the zune plays music

  • in that case it doesnt

    peace

    ps

    ipod disciples should unfuck themselves that's for sure

  • Apple wannabe

  • Haha

  • I saw the doctor the other day, he told me everything was fine.

  • You should get a life

  • Stuck up? Says the person whose practicly saying "What you give ISNT enough." In my books, thats stuck up, not to mention ungrateful.

  • Why would an iphone or a Zune 2 make any difference?

  • just read what u said, and think about it. if u still didnt see anything wrong with it, show ur self to a doctor immidietly

  • Fuck microsoft, i loved my zune, then after 2 months, it got bad sectors, wont sync, wont play, wont do fuck all.

  • What do you mean after 2 months? I just got an 80 GB Zune, it doesn't just die does it?

  • to be honest mate, i was angry when i posted that comment. i dropped it from a meter about 5 times, which explains the HDD damage. if it was an ipod, it would never have survived after the first drop, take good care of ur zune, it will be fine, i assure u.

  • Okay Thanks!

  • hahahaha true that! ive droped it a few times and it works fine!

  • zune phone is goona obleterate the ipods and itouch iphone etc...

  • the only thing ur paying for the ipod is the logo! and a stupid glass touch screen come on! the zune phone will be out soon thats gonna shoot down the ipod!

  • probably the funniest thing ever.

    the thing is, first of all: why would the zunePHONE shoot down the iPOD? Not much sense... second of all: while the zunePhone may be as good as the iPhone, (maybe), hmm wonder where the idea came from. again.

  • well how about we all just shut the fuck up about gates its not like he matters any more....( for those of yew who dont know he IS retired)

  • bill gates is such an ass

    he can't explain why they did it if not for pure competition with mac.

    I saw the whole of this video and he doesn't really know about what he's talking about.

    I really want a zune 8 but it's clear to me now that bill gates didn't come up with that idea, just the money and he gets like 40% of this product

  • Can Bill Gates put his greed on the background sometimes. He torpedoes the $100-cost computer project for the disadvantaged kids. He could not help inspite of his billions. When the project leaders started discussing about Linux, Bill Gates/Microsoft made a pre-emptive announcement about the avilability of low cost version of Windows.

    For several times in he past, Bill Gates had announced that the Microsoft CEO is Balmer, not true, when money is at stake, Bill Gates hand will be there.

  • wow, he is really a cool guy and they make the most advanced products that are bug and virus free and inventive and easy to use. I love him, I love Mikrosoft, they remind me of GM! (amerikan cars are the best by the way idiots).

  • stop smoking whatever your are, because its the exact opposite, but obviously you are a troll :)

    I am a win/linux/mac user and every platform has its benefits and drawbacks. however, the fact that toyota makes more cars, does not mean that Ferrari makes shitty cars. that's the analogy between MS and Apple. both brands offer products that are good depending on INDIVIDUAL perspective. apple could dominate the laptop market if they had some marketing brains to sell their OSX for "fixed hardware"

  • zune sucks ass and it will never be an ipod killer. Macs are also better than windows, but too bad windows are selling more..

  • hey shit I wonder why windows are selling better? apple products suck. my ipod nano only lasted a year. and macs are the biggest pile of shit I have ever seen. LOL I think zune is way better since I have both(I have to keep my ipod docked just to play it)

  • Just because something sells doesn't make it better. You obviously have not used a mac and are just pulling info out of your ass; if you have, then it was probably for a day or so.

  • I use them everyday at school. and I can say they suck.

  • Free trader you tard it managed to catch up to the frickin ipod classic try catchin up to the toutch the new one not our oldest you dumbass

    !!!

  • Your Jealous! And all the ipod touch has is a touch screen and less gigabites, so yeah, Zune has already cached up with that.

  • your right man except for the touch part lol but i hate touch so yea

  • I dont know, people like me that dont need 80GB will get a 8GB device.

    But then again, I think Zune is cheaper than the iPod Touch.

    It looks cool too

  • Your kinda right about the 80gb thing, I don't even know of so many songs, but I dont really like the ipod touch, why would I want the same thing but with useless features? The features the ipod has are just to show-off, I prefer the 4/8 GB zune. The touch screen is just more money for less durability. Radio and social are much better features. The zune is also stronger than the ipod.

  • Yeah, I guess you ae right

    :D

  • OMG!! UR ALL RETARDS IF U THINK WHO IS GOING TO BUY 80GB's WORTH OF STUFF!! I FILLED MINE UP IN A DAY! I HAVE LIKE 100 MOVIES AND OVER 10,000 SONGS! AND ZUNE DOEsNT SUCK. IPOD SUCKS ZUNE BALLS!@@

  • yea lol u said it all

  • ipod and zune are both peaces of big nasty crap... PERIOD

  • ARE U ALL FKING SICK MINDED? IM SERIUS I MEAN REALY THE ZUNE FKING SUCKS SOMETIMES FILES WOULD'NT SINK LIKE THE ONES FROM LIMEWIRE. O NO ONLY ZUNE SHOP WORKS BLAAAAA. i am so pissed with mine im gonna sell it and trade for an ipod because the just plane suck and have problums SINCING or as they call it. if u like zune i have nothing against u its just that how could u feal so FKING non connected to the world of music im not joking. Microsoft always ahd to coppy apple. if u agree dont get zune!

  • whoa calm down ok...listen when i got the new marketplace for zune it wouldnt let me sync my files but then if u create a playlist it works there and regularly on the main song list and also *syncing. and if u get pissed if it doesnt work they are just trying to keep ppl from stealing music

  • WHY ARE YOU IN ALL CAPITALS???? sincing lol or do you mean syncing? you dont have to use marketplace, you can put up all your own music.

  • I AGREE THE ZOON SUCK BIG TIME. IN TODAYS ECONOMY, WHO CAN AFFORD TO BUY A $200 BRICK THAT DOESN'T SYNC MUSIC AND MOVIES PROPERLY? DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND GOOGLE "ZUNE DOESNT SYNC"/ ZUNE SOFTWARE SUCKS"/ or ZUNE SUCKS!!!

  • Um, zune syncs easier than the ipod. And if you google "ipod doesn't sync ipod software sucks" then there will also be millions of results you dumbass.

  • 242.000

  • I actually have had 2 Zunes and an Ipod. Although I'm not an Ipod fan I've never had problems synching it. So refrain from the name-calling you INTERNET THUG.

  • hey if you cant use zune software then you r one of the most retarted person on the face of the earth

  • Time will tell.

  • LMFAO!!

  • sorry but i have to say this!

    STRAIGHTEN YOU NECK BILL!

  • If you really want to buy this thing just wait a bit. Microsoft always stuffs the channel way overfull so they can send out a press release saying how many they shipped, then retailers have to discount the crap out of it to get them out of the store. Microsoft reimburses them for the loss, but that doesn't get mentioned in a press release. The whole product strategy on this thing is a fraud.

  • Um, Zune is the new thing, I'm serious. I'm buying a 80 gb

  • your going to buy 80 gb of music and videos...?

    why don't you just buy an ipod, you can stuff it full with stuff.

  • Are you replying to my comment earlier? If so, then here's my response:

    I'm sick of ipods, zune and ipod cost the same, zune is obviously better...so why not?

  • well, you can fill your ipod with free stuff for one, you have multiple mods and hacks for it, it has a wide arrange of products and models, a big community for the product and its hacks. also i dont know if you can on a zune but with the ipod you can always use it as an external hard drive or manually manage it's content.

  • Oh, I see what you're saying. THe zune is new so it won't have as many (opportunities?) as the ipod. Well, I guess I will just have to try my luck...I'm ready for something new

  • ipod also has 80 gb of music and videos you dumbass, not only that, zune is new and it has already cached up with ipod.

  • and it hasn't, I don't know any one who has a zune and I also don't know where to get one if I would want to

  • Now your judging things by popularity. Unlike the ipod you wont find the zune in kb toys. Look anywhere else and you will find it.

  • your the one who's talking about catching up...

    also the zune want to make use of other people with a zune, this would work great if there were as many people with a zune as there were with an ipod but since there are so few I think it's a poor choice they took.

  • ru stupid just go to bestbuy or on the internet. damn you a lazy ass

  • so... since there isn't a bestbuy anywhere near where i am, your basicly saying that i can only obtain it by buying it on the internet? wow... thats.. weird

  • where the hell do u live where there is no bestbuy or other eletronic stor

  • well... there are electronic stores here but... I've never seen a zune @.@

  • ipods suck

    apple sucks

    zunes good

    microsoft best

  • ok i like microsoft operating systems but definetly not zunes i disagree

  • HOW ABOUT 160G? ZUNE SUCK, IPOD RULES.

  • Yaaaaaaaaaa  Ruls

  • lol its like stfu mr richass lol jk he kool micosoft ftw *ahem* ipod blows *ahem*

  • bitch u like to give me head dont u??

    stop talking shit on a better mp3 than the brick your carrying puto cock sucking bitch!!!!

    oh yeah, stop making microsoft a monopoly.

  • its funny, people actually expect this to succeed. M$ has a history of copying everything apple does, and the only reason M$ made an mp3 player was because some ipod users had a nasty habit of switching to macs. M$ is just defending its monopoly with this and trying to make another which is why its always a generation behind the ipod. the wireless sharing..Why bother? 3 days or 3 plays? its not compatible with itunes or M$ old partner playsforsure and its software/store sucks. Wake up morons!

  • finally someone who agrees with me about bill gates copying others. just take a look on the old macs and microsoft, very strange similarities. also, zune came seven years late, too bad. cant people see that the zune lost.

  • Microsoft is notorious for copying other people's products, whether it's Windows ripping off Mac OS or Zune being a blatant rip-off of Ipod or MSN search trying to be like yahoo and google.

  • mac sucks shahahahah

  • back in the day when i heard about the new zunes i was hoping they wouldn't sell the 4 and 8 gigs the same price as the ipods.......sure enough.....they do.....

  • what the hell pay some respect to ur superior Bill Gates is the king of computers:)

  • if hes the king, then Steve Jobs is God, BOW DOWN TO THE DIVINE.

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  • i like zune cause it is made by microsoft and they make halo even ipod cant compare btw i have a halo3 special edition zune

  • Im pretty sure microsoft just published halo, but a company called bungie made it. I might be wrong..

  • Yea Bungie did make it, they are a great studio. Maybe Im wrong, but the initial concept of Halo was supposed to be made and published for the Mac computers, but then oh wait....... well you know the rest dont you.

  • I like macs, but i could on;y find halo 1 for it

  • you guys are morons if you guys actually expect the zune to to be a retail success when compared to the ipod. The ipod is an industry standard and will remain so for years to come. The zune cant compare in many ways especially with its horrible online music store. have you guys ever read the software agreement? M$ has the right to update it automatically and remove features.

  • apple sucks dick

  • you suck bill gates balls

  • Hey mrperson, you're an idiot so shut up. Macs are perfectly fine for people that want something that just works and have no plans on upgrading anything, but if you want to upgrade and/or if you want to game then a mac isn't going to cut it. What people don't realize is that Windows has to be made to work with countless combinations of hardware, and it does a pretty good job. Macs work sooo well because they are made to be compatible with what they come with and nothing else.

  • Well, dipshit, the reason why you cant really upgrade a mac is because everyone on the computer industry likes the the taste of bill gates balls. Since no one else has no common since, people would rather keep on sucking than join up with Apple.

  • And the reason why you cant upgrade a mac, is because Macs suck a lot of ass and they charge you so fucking much for what?. NOTHING. 1GB Ram. Shit, even Acer laptops have more Ram than that. I will admit, Apple did a very good job with Macintosh, it is a successful OS, yet they charge you a fuckin arm and leg for a product that has nothing. That is why, all other pcs with windows are better, and upgradable. BTW, do you know what common sense is?, cause you cant even spell it.

  • cmon, almost all entry level Acers use the old Intel GMA 950 chipset still. and anyone who uses a mac no longer needs to deal with that 2 decade old crap people call BIOS. PCs have something called legacy thats holding them back from actually innovating and making good products and Apple always is one of the first to adopt new technology when it comes out. USB, WIFI, and Bluetooth. people pay to have this stuff first

  • Oh the mac has nothing? Im pretty sure the mac pro can have 32GB of ram and the last time i checked, Macs werent a piece of crap. Oh and tell me, what normal person that uses a computer for normal uses upgrades it except for mabey the ram/hard drive? The only people I see who do that are nerds and geeks who can't afford a new computer every few years.

  • Yea um... last time I checked, People were not that retarded as to upgrade a Mac to have 32GB of Ram for $9100.00. Normal people like me who have to pay bills and pay for other necessities like gas, insurance, etc. wouldnt buy it cause we dont spend that much on a god damn computer (Or for this matter, on a damn upgrade, to which the computer already costs $2900.00).

  • your retarded, macs don't cost more, granted you can't buy a shitty budget mac, like you can PCs. but if you were to get a PC with all the same specs it would cost about the same.

  • Wait a minute. I havent been on this thread for 2.5 months, and this mrperson fag is still on here criticizing the Zune and Microsoft. Jesus Christ man, do you have a life, or is it all on Steve Jobs's Nuts. Lets get one thing straight right now. Tell me in 5 sentences or less, why I would buy a iMac, that costs 1500 Bucks, and comes with crappy components, when I can buy a Quad-Core @2.6GHz, 3GB Ram, 1TB(1000 GB)Hard Drive, Nvidia 8800GTS DX10 Graphics card with a 22" LCD Screen for $1400?

  • Oh I don't know, MAYBE BECASE ITS A WHOLE FUCKING LOT BETTER! Why, don't you go shove a broom up your fat ass, and choke and bill gates balls. Why the hell can't you get over yourself! Yeah, Macs cost more than a common crappy pc. Porsches cost more than ford, it's all in the quality and the operating system asshole.

  • You really don't get it, do you? Yes crashes can result from human error, in fact, most of the time it IS human error, but loopholes in coding can result in instability. Things such as memory loss from starting an application, then closing it immediately before it opens, is a bug in the programming. This happens all the time in software of any kind, called a bug, and the process of fixing them is called debugging.

  • Listen, I express my opinion so strongly because I grew up with windows all of my life. Just recently I have switched to Mac, and have had ABSOLUTELY zero of the problems I once encountered. Unless you are not bill gates ass toy, or you have never used Macintosh, then you should take your own dick out of your mouth.

  • Wow, I believe my IQ just dropped a few points just from trying to understand your logic. Apple, in time, WILL begin to take over market share in time. As Microsoft fails to innovate, people will want something "fresh" and new, something better. OS X is one of the easiest operating systems on the planet. I grew up with winblows, and it took me about 10 minutes to learn OS X, I personally think that Macintosh is MUCH easier.

  • Oh, and I work for a local computer hardware business and deal with computers every day, so my computer's crashing was not my fault. So you can take your stupidity somewhere else.

  • They did a really good job on the new zunes - the hardware that is. The software... well, the software itself made me return my new Zune 80. Try it. You'll see why.

  • looks like Zune Zucked

  • I am impressed with Bill. He didn't make up anything, although he may have dramatized a few points. I think this is why it's such a short video. Microsoft simpily doesn't know how (or want) to deliver a sucessful, appealing music player. Something that looks good at first but ties you to a subscription (like about all cellphones for example), and turns out to have less features than promised, doesn't make an appealing product.

  • The very last frame of this video pretty much sums up Bill Gates and Microsoft.

  • the zune is 5 years late.

  • fuck you bill gates sientist have came to the conculsion that if bill gates found a 20 dollar bill on the street its not worth his time to pick it up

  • he would pick it up and then give it to a poor kid. he's a philantropist. and he spends most of his money and time to charities nowadays. just cause he's rich doesn't make him cold.

  • woot someone like me

  • you should know, bill gates is apparently the largest shareholder of apple. and they won't be making itouches anymore cause they can't get flash memory past 16gb.

  • hey bill could you please please please expand the marketplace to europe plz plz plz plz plz :)

  • i still dont know why MS doesnt release it in australia.

  • mmm. real mature.

  • Thank you! I hate when people say stupid stuff like that! And I don't know why it's not realeased internationally either.

  • I'm in Canada and am getting a Zune. Unfortunately, since it hasn't been released here yet either, you can't even get podcasts through Zune Marketplace, even though they're free! Stupid Zune Pass...suck it!

  • The Zune is a fantastic device, no matter what anyone says. The new interface is loaded with features that competitors such as th iPod doesn't have, and the Zune has just as sleek of a look. The reason that iPod is surviving is because it is a veteran on the market. The Zune will catch on, and the iPod may find itself (finally)defeated.

  • i don't understand you...i mean ok, ipod is everywhere, but unlike microsofts stuffs, you cant denie it's quality, i mean i got the first i pod, so now it's what maybe 4 or 5 years, and even if it fell on the ground pretty hard, has been in terrible condition, it still work perfectly well...so i don't see the point of "i pod surviving on the market", it's really a good device!

  • The original ipod was a very good device, even though they did steal the zen's patented interface. I still dont see why creative hasnt pressed chrages. But the new ipod classic is just dumb. I have used ipods for a while, but i am tired of their monopoly on mp3 players. The zune is, in my opinion, just a better product. it is refreshing to see a worthy competitor on the market.

  • O_O maybe Apple ipod and Microsoft zune could work together to creat something better then both ipod and zune! then we won have to fight about which is better :D!

  • zunes=gay ipods pwn any piece of shit that tries to compete with it including the zunes ipods will always be the best

  • right...yeah no.

    It may not have a 'ultra-trendy name'

    But it's better...

    ipods suck. I owned one, i tried it, i was paying for it later. Less then a year, it broke, treated it like gold.

    Apple used to be the best, quality slipped.

  • same, ipod videos break just after the warranty runs out :@

    i wanna get a zune and an archos if possible.

  • im sticking with apple, because i know its very reliable

  • I don't hate Zune, I don't hate Microsoft, But I do hate Bill Gates with a passion lol :P cuz hes so freaking rich!!! annoying.

  • I'm not saying I hate the Zune, but iPods already do all that...

    That's something Microsoft doesn't seem to get.

  • the zune was the first with sharing and wireless syncing.

  • I suppose, but wireless syncing...

    There really is no need for it. Some people may want it, I admit, but it'd be stupid to make it the Zune2's main focal point.

  • widerangledotcom, you can't really call this "sharing". It's a joke, not sharing.

  • no, its sharing. you can share photos normally (perhaps video too?) its only music that you cant fully. and its fair enough, otherwise only one person would have to buy the song and everybody with a zune in their area could have it.

  • widerangledotcom, fair?! What are you talking about?! What fair in not allowing to sharing non-DRMed files?! I can give an example of ridiculous fact, that I can't share my own records, but leaving it alone, even prevention of sharing pirated song is not acceptable. It is no up to f*cking Microsoft decide what to do with my own files.

  • yes. i can just see the music industry glorifying microsoft for allowing you to share music no-strings-attached. you can buy DRM-free music off the Zune services, can you not? therefore why they have the three days/three plays. i know its not the best you cant share your own stuff - but most people dont make their own music, they listen to it.

  • ...And I really don't care about photos, because I use music player to share _photos_. And I'm not saying zune is necessary a bad music player (just mediocre) but this sharing feature (that do was able to make it above average) it totally crippled and useless.

  • its more of a media player than a music player - so yes, i can see a lot of people sharing photos. im not sure what the restrictions are on videos though. plus, you can pull down music off a network. so, the wi-fi features are a great reason to get it.

  • what is up with all the ipod fanboys.

    seriously if you hate the zune soo much

    then why the hell are you looking up zune

    videos on youtube. most of these people

    defend the ipod because the idiots already

    bought it and its too late. too bad they'll

    never shut up and realize that the zune has

    better technology in it. im not saying the ipod is bad its just the zune is much better

  • Still, fad or not, people talk about the ipod touch(and other ipods) not the zune. most people want a stylish music devise that is practical, easy to use, dosen't get viruses, and is not made by a power hungry monopoly. whether or not any of the few MS Fanboys out there like it or not, ipod wins. DEAL WITH IT.

  • whoa. what the hell. note: the ipod has had a virus, the zune has not. im not saying the 'ipod wins' or 'zune wins', just saying that the zune is a brilliant media device.

  • i love my fukkin ipod touch the zune 2 is pretty neet or neat... i will recommed the zune 2 people who like listen 2 both music or radio station awesome products

  • I work in a electronics store. Once you tell people what the Zune actually does and show them one out of the box, they're quick to buy one over the iPod. iPod is a fad and like every fad it will fade away. Zune will be standing in its place. Give it a few more years. It really is a better piece of hardware.

  • i completely. but i myself also worked in an electronic shop. yes the ipod/iphone is a fad that will be around for a while until people see something "cooler" the original zune was horrible (slow wireless downloads, unresponsive if you had it for a while...i guess it wares out quickly)

    the new zune however is pretty solid, thin and a nice sleek design to it. people will eventually get out of ipods and go into something else...its inevitable

  • I don't work in an electronics shop but I say that people will think the Ipod is a fad until people see something "better" and more affordable. When everybody in the US know about the Zune they'll wanna buy one. I have a few friends that have a Zune and they like it but I also know alot of people who think its an Ipod, what retards! Tell your customers about the Zune! Let America know that theres a better choice!

  • Oh and I'm not the person who gave you a thumbs down.

  • Why? Because the iPod fad says it does?

  • Why can't people see that the Zune has better features and style than an Ipod? You can't even apply a picture into your background so your Ipod stays boring and dull. Zune's got radio, wireless sharing, a customizable background, even a 1.8, 3, or 3.2in. widescreen display!

  • i updated my zune on nov 13 and it has 10 min. battery life? y

  • The Zune rules, plain and simple. It's the rising underdog.

    Remember the old Xbox VS PS2. Who won who lost?

    Xbox (the underdog) won.

    The Zune is still young. Give it time.

  • off topic:

    XBOX won? have you even seen the sales of PS2 vs Xbox?!

  • Yeah, half of them are in junkyards and the other half in 3rd world countries.

    Xbox was the better product.

  • look, I'm not going to argue with a fanboy, so let's say your right...

    however, i do think your comment on the zune is right, or at least sort of (i would have structured it with less simplisim.)

  • Definitly MSFT is going to make steve jobs swet a bit, and i think Zune 3 is where MSFT is going to get the attention needed to make a hit at Ipod and their Isheeps...

    too bad this will become another PS2vsXbox/PS3vsXbox360/MacvsPC battle

    only getting worse by the confussion fanboys make.

    at the end is all about your style, there no "number 1" only options.

  • well, the ps2 was out for - was it three, four maybe? years.

  • i meant - the PS2 was out for three or so years before the xbox, so that might explain its sales.

  • Bill gates actually looks as if he thinks this is a farce as he's describing features. They are just making this product because they can. They dont care about it, and are dumping so much money into it... because they can. No other compatny would waste this much on a product that is probably going to fail. They just wanted to show the world they could make one too... but as usual... five years after Apple.

  • gamefan101 ok the new ipods suck wow they have a fm radio now the zune started with it now that apple is being pressured in the music world

    I dont get that at all. That is so funny. The Zune is such a cheap copy of an ipod. Not to mention, that Vista is already 5 years behing os X 10,5 (leopard) You should really take a look at a nice OS.