I think this guy nail it right on the head. brady is a product of Bill Belichick system. Just look at what happen when brady went down. Matt Cassel coming in having started since HS and taking the pats to 11 wins. While Peyton Manning is carring a team that can only win 2 wins without him.
I think you could make an argument for both QB's ! They both are going to the hall of fame! Lets be real here! You are right about Tom Brady and I'm a Pats fan. If you look team up in the dictionary you will see a patriots logo. They don't care about stats and they don't care about talk. Previous players have said it's the hardest system that they have ever played in! Make no mistake If Tom Brady doesn't have a good preseason he won't play! Thats reality!
how good was that system before Tom Brady? Brady is the system. Did Bellicheck look like a genius before Brady? No he dint. Its not the system its the quaterback
@jaguarsball Not neccessarily. At leats the Patriots made the playoffs with Matt Cassel, the Colts are 0-10 right now, & will probably finish 0-16 the way they look this year. This Colts team neary went 16-0 only 2 years ago! A successfull system allows a backup to keep the ship on coarse. The 49ers had a system like this but everyone contributes their success to Montana & Young, but guys like Jeff Kemp,Elvis Grbac & Steve Bono were also very successfull when called upon. All Indy has is Peyton
u guys should look at the pats D now worst in the nfl but they still win cuz of brady the colts d is better and they are on the field alot w out manning cuz 40 year old collins suks Brady Better thats that
Tom Brady lost the Super Bowl fair and square, Manning caused his team to lose. Stats don't mean shit.....Wilt Chamberlain averaged 55 points a game in a season but is he better than Jordan? NO
This guy say's that championships is not a true measurement of how great a QB is?!! Can i say that this guy is just another fuckin idiot? Brady All Day...1 More SB and he will be the G.O.A.T!!! Sorry Joe Montana
@MrVintage16 manning has a better offense!?!?!?!?! are u stupid o yea i forgot manning has 3 potential hall of fame players to throw to, well he doesnt have marvin harrison anymore but he was a beast and now he still has wayne and dallas clark and thats not better than wes welker and rob gronkowski are u STUPID!?!?!?!?!?! rob gronkowski is good but he is not better than dallas clark but see what happens when you give brady someone to throw to (randy moss) he wins an MVP "the end" BITCH!!!!!!!!
this dude is a moron oh peyton manning could go to any team and they will be contenders ? what are you a precog lol how do you know he will succeed with any team ?
Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are also as good as their offensive line allow them to be. Neither of them is Michael Vick or Vince young who can run away from defensive lineman. They both need time to throw the ball and have both been lucky to have decent protection over the course of their careers. If you put Peyton Manning on the Panthers who give up 5 sacks a game he will struggle and they will not make the playoffs same with Tom Brady.
@ryanjagessar when u scramble like a dumb fuck then u get blitzed thats why they get sack and all that and manning and brady especially could take any team to the playoffs
how is that if payton go to another team they would go to the playoffs you got to think what if he got wr that can't catch his passes and a rb that can't run the ball good or offensive lineman that can't block and the defense
Theres a reason why Peyton Manning was rated #3 QB of All-Time. and Brady was #28 I think. lol. Peyton Has like 95% of all Passing Records, More Touchdowns, Higher Completion Percentage, Higher Accuracy, more passing yards, more 4,000 passing yard seasons, and has 4 MVPs and a SB MVP, 49 Carrer 4th Quarter Combacks. One of them was quoted "Best game of All-Time" vs. Patriots in 2009. He camback to win 35-34 from a 21 point deficit And hes gaurunteed a Hall of Fame induction and SB Ring.Go Colts
@777zippy777 Awww is the upset Pats fan mad? haha I would be too, knowing all you Pats fags ever do is go look up Manning Vids cuz I guess Tom Brady's wanna be male model ass doesnt do it for ya does he? The Colts barely lost by 3 points this year against the Colts with 9 major players injured. Nuff said. Brady is and always will be 2nd best to the Best QB Playing and 3rd best in History. Peyton Fuckin' Manning Babyy!!! Go Blueee!!!!! Super Bowls in Indy Babbyyy
@SantmyreFilms The Colts barely lost by 3 points to the Colts? Huh... I must have missed that game. Obviously you made that error because you were too busy fondling your Manning "action" dolls... hahahahaha what a homo!
@777zippy777 I ment the Pats but doesnt matter when My Favorte QB is the #1 Playing. Yours has to settle for 2nd best. Dont get mad bro. Get Manning!!!
I can always tell when I'm dealing with a semi-retarded, inbred Colts fan on here-- always the 100-word, run-on sentences with no punctuation, and the inane babbling without any response to my posts because they are clearly outmatched.
manning is better period say what you want but the reason yall say brady is better is because of the rings dont it make you better when your a true leader of your team i dont see that in brady manning has it all but the team where brady dont he has the rings the team but dont have the comanding dont have the real leadership he dont have the numbers manning has all of that including a ring the only thing manning dont have is a great team so hands down manning is better period take what you will
Ignorant nigger. You take the time to make a video and argue something you clearly have no idea about. Brady is about to win his second MVP with no name recievers this year. 3 rings, 50 TD season, never a great running back, less playing time than peyton, and all around makes smarter choices and doesnt choke in the playoffs. Haters can say 18-1, but last time i checked, nobody has done that before. He also threw the go ahead TD that game. Shout spygate all you want, smart people know th truth.
@Mavericks411991 Lol The Truth Is After Spygate Brady Hasnt Won a Superbowl And Ever Since The Giants Exposed Him In The Last Game Of There Near Perfect Season Brady Folded When Pressure Was Put On, and Not Only Should They Have Lost That Game The Giants met Them In The Superbowl And Did The Same Thing They Did There Last Meeting And Thats Pressure And Guess What He Folded Again, The Giants Have Exposed The Blue Print And Guess What the Jets Put Pressure And He Folded Once Again,Out In 1st Round
@cacamonster91st Maybe if Manning was able to actually put together more than one TD drive the entire game, the Colts might've beaten the Jets. 3&out, 3&out, 3&out, 11&out was the Colts' first 4 drives of the game. In the 2nd half? Nothing but 3 FGs. And you blame the Cromartie return? Of course you do, because you're a Manning apologist. Learn football, son. It's called a great coaching staff and great game plan. That's what the Jets did against both QBs and both teams.
@cacamonster91st And I'm not sure if Manning fans want to go around spouting off about how this is another one-and-done for Brady. OK, that's two for Brady. How many has Manning had? SEVEN. Seven one-and-dones in the playoffs, including in 2005, when they went 14-2, got the #1 seed and lost at home to the #6 seed. Sound familiar? Manning fans should know better than anyone how different the postseason is compared to the regular season.
@777zippy777 ok dude ima set it strait pats are good the colts are good BUT when you compare a QB by the championships your a idiot. if you are saying tom is better because of 3 rings your just another idiot.when you compare with rings your saying eli is as good as peyton your saying arron rodgers is as good as peyton your saying dan marino is baneth brady i guess that makes joe montana the best 4-0 at the superbowl.se what i meen you cant compare by rings you compare them by records and stats
@mudcurb1234 Uh, not quite, dude. If you compare them by just records and stats, then Favre is the GOAT. And I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but there is no fucking way that Favre is the GOAT. He's barely top 10. His many playoff failures killed his chances at being GOAT.
I don't go ONLY by rings anyway. I go by a combination of rings, stats, awards, records, etc... and right now, Montana has the best combination of all that. But to be the GOAT, you HAVE to have won multiple SBs.
@mudcurb1234 And don't even try to tell me that a QB gets records and stats all by himself anymore than a QB wins super bowls all by himself. EVERYTHING takes a team effort. Dilfer isn't better than Marino just because he won one SB, and Favre isn't better than Montana just because he has 3 MVPs and ALL the stats and ALL the records.
Comparing them only by records and stats is just as stupid as comparing them only by rings. It goes both ways.
@777zippy777 ok you dont wanna compair them by stats not records or superbowls ok lets compare them by talent. tom brady wasent good when he played for michigan and he just got lucky by getting in a team thats got great talent dont get me rong all respect to him and i wish him the best but when it comes to a QB with nothing to work with and you can still get a ring thats makes peyton better because he builds the offense from scratch where tom gets everything handed to him
@mudcurb1234 Brady "just got lucky by getting in a team thats got great talent" you say? Well let's look at that shall we...? In the Colts' last 25 games before Manning became their starter, they were 7-18. Guess what the Pats' record was in their last 25 games before Brady became the starter? You got it: 7-18.
In 2001, the Pats were coming off a 5-11 season in 2000 and NO ONE was picking them to do much more than finish 6-10 in '01. With Bledsoe, they started 0-2 and their season was over...
@mudcurb1234 ...then Brady took over and, without ANY other changes to the team from 2000 to 2001 (other than at QB), he led the Pats to 14 wins in their next 17 games, including the super bowl.
Meanwhile, Manning took over for a horrid 3-13 Colts team from 1997 and in 1998, he led them to.... 3-13. WOW! What a huge difference Manning made. FIVE years later, he won his first playoff game.
@777zippy777 where whould you brady be if he whould have got drafted by the browns he whould be a normal QB.but this is fact you take manning put him in the browns he will take that offense comand them tern the talent into great talent and the second year there playoff contenders so dont run your mouth about stats and all that shit remember this is about talent not rings and stats you dont know shit because you keep going back to stats and rings.
@mudcurb1234 LMFAO!! Yeah, I've already seen what Manning is capable of with Browns-type teams. 3-13 in '98, 6-10 in '01 and this year when he threw 11 INTs in 3 games on a depleted Colts team. But yet, I'm supposed to believe he could take the Browns to the playoffs?? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah right.
But yeah, why go by stats and FACTS, when you can just spew out your retarded, biased opinions? Duh.
@mudcurb1234 Your arguments make absolutely no sense. That would be like me arguing that Brady put up 21 points against the Jets but Manning only put up 16. So Brady's better. DUH! Yeah, take ONE game and use that as your argument. Real smart.
@777zippy777 ok now when you had the best WR in the nfl and a great offense like brady even tony romo chould win 3 superbowls and 1 of those the pats cheated who knows how far it gos back.then you got peyton manning number 1 draft pick out of tennessee and has it all except for scrambling he gets drafted by the colts in 1998. look what happens as soon as he plays that team gos from being a non winning loser franchise to wining a superbowl so dont give your shit about brady.brady is just a talk
@mudcurb1234 Yeah... the Colts went from 3-13 without Manning to winning a super bowl with him... IN NINE YEARS!! Brady took a 5-13 team and went 14-3 with them, winning a super bowl in his first year as a starter. OWNED.
@777zippy777 lmao DUMBASS your so fucking blind did you read what i said or are you just upset because your rong.back in bradys rookie year he had what he needed to win a superbowl but manning didnt the colts one there first superbowl in 2006 sence 1971 with baltimore i dont wanna hear that crap about brady he won his first superbowl as a rookie it aint about that brady had talent around him.manning didnt and still doesent wow reggie wayne.peyton is in a loser franchise and still got a ring
@mudcurb1234 Yeah dumbfuck, because the 7-18 Patriots were SO MUCH BETTER than the 7-18 Colts. And the 2000 Pats (5-11) were SO MUCH BETTER than the 1997 Colts (3-13). Get a clue, do some research, learn something about this subject, THEN come talk to me.
@mudcurb1234 Wow. You're not too bright are you? I said it was stupid to judge QBs by ONLY stats & records. Just as stupid as it is to judge them ONLY by rings. Get your reading comprehension problems fixed before you try a debate on youtube.
@mudcurb1234 I'll take that as you conceding defeat to me. You have some of the worst debating skills I've ever seen on youtube. Your arguments make no sense and are flimsy at best, your points (or lack thereof) are hard to decipher because you obviously haven't learned how to write intelligently yet. We keep running into the same crap because I'm arguing with an uneducated inbred Colts fan- which is a common problem for me when I'm debating this subject.
@mudcurb1234 When you try to claim that Brady walked onto a super bowl-caliber team, Yeah, I'm going to pummel that retarded theory with stats and facts. Which I did. Team win-loss records are KIND OF important when considering how good the teams were. YA THINK??
And then you take your ball and run home crying with your tail between your legs. Typical inbred Colts fan. No stats or facts to back up anything you claim, just spewing out stupid, biased bullshit right out of your ass.
@mudcurb1234 LOL! And then you remove half of your comments? What a pussy. Ahhh, waste of my time anyway. You're not worthy of this debate. Go back to your figure skating, pussy. Way to man-up...
@777zippy777 dude i deleted my comments because im imbarest by you.and you must be upsest with you check every five seconds on your emails to rite me back then you go and see my other comments you need to get out of the closet.go get a life just. because i dont want to argue you gotta keep replying me qut wineing.i seen how you set your profile up you need a life is this what you do sit online all day and talk about football you must be inlove with peyton manning because you got him all over
@mudcurb1234 You're "imbarest" by me?? Dude, you should be embarrassed by your lack of intelligence and basic spelling skills. I'll keep this going as long as you keep responding. You want it to end? Then stop responding. No, I'm not in love with Manning- you are. By the way, learn how to write and spell-- it might be beneficial to you later in life.
@777zippy777 what is going on between you 2? lol yall loseing it? there both great qbs.man that dude mudcurb is going nuts hes rite on 1 thing manning is a lil better.but dang he needs to shut up.
@777zippy777 why do all you people say well brady is the best because of superbowls?you look at what brady has accomplished ya i will be the first to say hes good not lie.but when you have a team like brady they went 14-2 this year ok his team got beat by the jets the pats chouldent even put up a fight and he has a better offense then manning.and i dont wanna hear well brady is plaing with scrubs when you go 14-2 thats not playing with scrubs he just aint what yall claim him to be
@777zippy777 peyton manning and the colts went 14-2 last year he took 1 pro WR and 1 rookieWR and turned them into superbowl talent in ONE YEAR.brady cant do that brady cant take a defenseive player from iwoa and turn him into a amazing TE i dont see brady making a not so good RB and get him a superbowl.ya its a team effort but where was that team before peyton got there.the pats didnt need brady they had a good team.CASE CLOSED.
@mudcurb1234 Dude, you are an idiot. Dallas Clark was an All-American TE at Iowa (Or "Iwoa", whichever way you inbreds spell it, if that helps you). Why do you think the Colts took him in the first round? Duh. And Brady went 14-2 with 36 TDs & 4 INTs, won MVP on a team with the 25th-ranked defense, worst 3rd-down defense, 30th-ranked pass D and a bunch of rookies, no-names, undrafted FAs for receivers. Give it up, retard, you are no match for me in this debate.
@cacamonster91st Brady had the game winning drive. After spygate..the patriots lost their defense. THATS WHY THEY HAVNT WON A TITLE. WATCH "A CONVERSATION ABOUT SPYGATE" ON YOUTUBE. WATCH IT WITH AN OPEN MIND PLEASE!!!!!!
@Mavericks411991 hey ya fukn dumass the reason we stoped haven a beast ass defense is cus all our good defensive players got really old or retired so of course were not gunna have a beast defense ya fukn dumass bitch
@0609FDR Your a fucking idiot. You proved my point. We lost our defeinsive players after spygate..thats why we havent won a title. Im a pats fan, you fucking retard. you make me LOL. epic fail.
One about that is not fair about Tom Brady is that most of his playoff wins has been field goals tom brady is one of the best QB but not because his clutch wins are something that somebody else did as a team in which brady ia apart of
Of course, this video was made in November of 2009, so take that for what it's worth. SOUP OF THE DAY commentary. I guess we'll find out in a month if Brady can succeed where Manning failed.
"You can put Peyton Manning on any team in the NFL and they immediately become a playoff contender" says truthinsports. BULL. SHIT. Then explain the 2001 Colts, smart guy. Manning could barely carry the 2010 Colts to the playoffs in the 2nd worst division in the NFL! Put Manning on any one of a dozen teams that will be watching the playoffs at home this weekend and NOTHING CHANGES. We just saw in 2010 what Manning is like without all his weapons. Brady lost his weapons and made history.
@777zippy777 Brady Lost His Weapons So Now He Throws 5 Yard Completions And Screens To Midgets!?, That Potent Offense Sure Looked Good Agianst The Jets Sike! Horrible, Hmmm Pressure in Which Brady Cant Handle, It Looks To Me That Peyton Manning Had A Better Chance At Beating The Jets With Only One Legit Threat And 2 Offensive Starters Not To Mention A Tight End Who Never Had Playing Time In His Career, Without a 60 Yard Return By Cromartie It Would Be Peyton On Top Which Brady Couldnt Fulfill.
@cacamonster91st That potent Colts offense sure looked good against the Steelers in the 2005 divisional playoff... SIKE! (It's "psych", you illiterate inbred moron) Hmmm pressure in which Manning couldn't handle. And that was with Harrison, Wayne AND Clark to throw to. But at least Brady didn't throw his O-line under the bus after the Jets game like Manning did after that Steelers game.
@777zippy777 Ma Bad Didnt Know I Was Writing A College Paper With Proper Grammer, But U Know What When Its All Said And Done Peyton Will Go Down At Least Top 5 Alltime If Not The Greatest Of All Time When Brady Will Only Be Considered Top 10 Due To Not Having Comparible Numbers To Peyton So Goodluck With That, and Once Again Brady Hasnt Won A Superbowl Since Spygate Isn't That Funny, Brady As Guilty As Bill Belicheat So Dwell On Bradys Nuts When He Not In The Same League As Peyton.
@cacamonster91st Manning hasn't won a super bowl since spygate either- isn't that funny! Manning has won one super bowl in 13 years and it was against Rex Grossman. Have fun with that. Manning is also done winning anything. 11 picks in 3 games? No qb has ever been THAT bad. Manning is just proving that without his security blanket Dallas Clark, he sucks. Brady lost Moss and still threw 36 TDs and 4 INTs.
Manning threw as many pick-6s as Brady had INTs! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
@777zippy777 Funny Thing Here Is They Video Taped The Rams Walkthrough To Win There First Superbowl, Thats Worse Then Like Taking Steroids, U Know Every Play Thats Coming, Doesnt It Seem Fishy When The Eagles Lost In The Superbowl And Complained About How The Patriots Knew When Every Single Screen Pass Was Coming, Hmmm I Dont Know Seems Like A Coincidence To Me, Its Because Bill Bellicheat Was Behind It As Well As The Players Were, Im Glad The Jets Exposed There Asses With Spygate.
@cacamonster91st Doesn't matter to me- they still won. I don't give a shit how they won. This aint pee-wee or high school football, son, this is pro shit. You do what you can to get an advantage. I hope they cheat their way to 3 more SB wins! Everyone does it- don't be so naive.
@mudcurb1234 They"re Ignorant, Brady Isnt Even In The Same Breath As Peyton, If Brady Wasnt Behind A Cheating Organization And Didnt Have a Ring On His Finger He'd Be Looked At Just Like Every Other Quarterback In The League.
Man Tom Brady dose not need Randy moss or any big play receiver he knows how to use his players and doesn't turn it over. now that the colts have had injured players manning is playing not that good. its not because im a pats fan it because it true.
This dude doesn't know shit about football! Over 300 passes without any interceptions! Won 3 super bowls! 50 TDs in one season! And still crushing records! LETS KEEP IT REAL TOM BRADY IS #1 NUFF SAID!
Peyton Manning is a choker, best example is the last Super Bowl. Brady is throwing to 5'9" recvrs and rookie TE's this year.. When he had a great recvr in Moss he threw 50 TDs in one year. Brady never had a 3 headed MONSTER like Manning has had in Harrison, Wayne & Clark. And Brady doesn't play in a Dome like Mr. Manning. Manning can go shine Brady's 3 rings. NOW the argument is settled.. LOL a system QB throws 50 TDs in one season?? Really??? You're a moron.
Tom Brady never had 11 Picks in 3 games like Manning had this year. Peyton Manning's numbers in the Playoffs are terrible. Brady is the best big game QB since Montana. He's got 3 Super Bowls and he's not finished yet.
I can't believe how dumb this guy in this video is.. Either he's just bias or dumb. The "system" is the NFL and the name of the game is winning, THAT is why we play. Ask Manning if he would trade his stats for 3 rings instead of 1. Oh.. and Tom Brady is "an above average quarterback" "Throws a good ball" Dude go take a walk.. Brady is a beast on the field and leads Manning head to head.
how can you tell which one is bettter right now? To me i would wait until both of them retire and then you can compare the two. With the way tom playing right now, he might end up gettin his fourth SB ring and fifth appearances in the SB. To those, who said stats > rings, it is like compare dan marino to joe montana. You want a winner not a choker when playing the biggest game.
And yes, the Colts usually have a MUCH better running game than the Pats. Last year was different because they refused to call run plays, and this year is different because they're not that good at it and they refuse to call run plays. But before, they had Marshall Faulk followed by Edgerrin James, and Joseph Addai went off his first couple of years in the league.
So who's the best now? And please stop with all of that "system QB" BS for Brady. People always bring up the Matt Cassel thing, but people forget that Matt Cassel went 11-5 and missed the playoffs while having the easiest schedule in the NFL. He was in 1-4 against teams with a winning record. With the same roster, Tom Brady nearly went undefeated the year before. Undefeated to 11-5 and no playoffs. That's a drop off
at first i thought this guy was gonna come up with something smart to say.. i think that its too damn close to call personally.. tom brady fucks with defenses all game long, so does manning.. brady is more accurate. brady is better with pressure. manning is better at throwing interceptions.
Manning is average in the post season. He can dominate and put up numbers in the regular season but when it comes to the playoffs he is average. To look past Brady and his accomplishments is just bias. He is 14-4 in the playoffs with 3 Super bowls and a perfect regular season, proven he can win in the clutch. If you say championships don't make you great what does Stats. Peyton won a superbowl, but they didnt win because he played great, 1 td 2 picks. and a game ending INT in his last superbowl
oh they are playoff contenders alright thats why they always lose in the conference round. look there is one goal for every football player and thats the superbowl ring. tom brady has 3 rings he has what matters most. tom brady is tougher than manning. how?? lets see heres manning in a indoor stadium throwing good balls cuz hes indoors no weather affecting his throws. but heres brady that has to deal with wind rain snow and it affects him and he still has more rings.
I read one your comments where you said "Tom Brady is terrible in big games or pressure situations". I think his 154 passing yards in the 4th quarter against carolina in the super bowl. Truthinsports ahahhahahaha. Peyton= Greg Maddux. Tom Brady =Curt Schilling,Josh Beckett, What the hell is a "systems back" It should be system
@thetruthinsports ... i liked your video man, but, i dont agree with your point of view. I dont think one is better than the other, they are different kinds of QBs, and both are great, on Brady's side, he has won more Superbowls, and has had one of the best seasons in NFL history, better than any Manning has had, on Peyton's side, he is a QB/offensive coordinator, i mean the guy is a genius and just as good on throwing the ball as Brady. Manning also had a great system, Tom Moore and Dungy. Thnx
Manning has had nothing but superb talent...Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark. and for Rb Marshall Faulk and Joseph addai.
Brady has had who until 07...Deion Branch Troy brown and david givens. for RB cory dillion and kevin faulk just average Rb Faulk was more of a receiving Rb so that doesnt even count.
Then you make a mistake and give him Randy Moss and look what happens. Who's record did he shatter thats right. Peyton Mannings.
System? Belicheck couldnt turn The Cleveland Brown franchise around. Brady has been more efficient in the playoffs. Rings do count. I respect your opinion but you're taking away from Tom Brady's accomplishments. Manning has always had the better O-Line. How? Run Blocking which allows for a great running game which allows Peyton to run numerous play actions and fool defenses. Brady has never had that. Can't truly say that Manning could make any other franchise a playoff team.
@DpSkies Come on man be real. The colts were the worst rushing football team in the league last year and they were playing in the super bowl. Get your facts straight man. Peyton is in control of the offense. Brady was and is a part of Belichek system. Matt Cassell put up similiar numbers but he has struggled in KC. To say he couldn't do anything in Cleveland is like saying Larry Brown didn't win a title with the Clippers.
@thetruthinsports Matt Cassell did not get his team to the playoffs and he had Randy Moss. I analyzed Matt Cassell that whole year and I have to say his accuracy is no where near Brady. Cassell in the clutch, no where near Brady. Again Taking too much away from Tom Brady. Just my opinion hopefully you can respect it like i respect yours. But saying Brady is all system is false. Belicheck is great (no doubt) but i do not believe he couldve done the same with Peyton.
@thetruthinsports Matt Cassell did not bring his team to the playoffs w/ Moss. Matt Cassell is not clutch like Brady. I respect your opinion, but to say Tom Brady is an "Above Average" QB is absurd. Sure Brady does fill the stat sheet like manning but look at the Super Bowls. 158 yards passing against CAR. Do you think Bill Russell was a product of Red Auerbach system? If so, this means Wilt was the better center. Im a UNC guy but Larry Brown is one of the most overrated coaches in the NBA.
@thetruthinsports Guarantee Matt Cassell couldn't put up 158 passing yards in a fourth quarter of a super bowl. Belicheck has been praised for his defensive schemes and his defense gave up 29 points in the super bowl. Belicheck is a great coach don't get me wrong. Here's the truth. Brady is more calm in the pocket than Manning is. Brady performs better in the clutch. I think Manning's performance against the Saints prove that. Is Bill Russell a product of Red Auerbach's system?
@DpSkies Belicheck is great but he was known as defensive minded guy. Good point on that one. Not saying he's overrated but people need to give Brady the credit he deserves. It's proven that Brady performs better in the big games. It's like comparing Bill Russell to Wilt or Greg Maddux to Curt Schilling. Was Joe Montana a system back?(not saying Brady is Montana) Was Marino better than Montana? Bill Walsh ran a great system and had a great defense.
@DpSkies Peyton manning kills tom brady any day. Manning is the only player to throw a perfect game, and hes done it 3 times. Peyton has 4 nfl MVP awards. He goes to the playoffs every year with rookies and 3rd strings and no run game. The patriots are a better TEAM but peyton is the best qb ever to play the game.
You give too much credit to Bill Belicheck. He didn't do the same things with the Browns. Cmon man Tom Brady has been better in the playoffs. Give Brady Peyton's running game and O-Line. Brady has never had the running game Peyton Manning did. What makes Peyton effective is play action and the O-Line's ability in Run Blocking. You can't put Manning anywhere and consider that team a playoff team. Manning choked again.
man your fucking dumb brady is way better then peyton what is every team in the nfl trying to do win a fucking super bowl u put peyton in the big game and he falls apart u put brady in the big game and he's on the money so your telling me u would rather have a man thats gunna fall apartb in the big game cuz it dont matter how u do in reg season if u get to the super bowl and lose its for nothing so im sorry brady is better than peyton any day
@kmkjuggalo420 Look at your language man you seem to be having a problem with vocabulary. Clean up your argument. Brady is average against good defenses. The Jets keep exposing him. He was a part of a great system during those runs but the league have caught up with the Patriot schemes and Brady would be average on an average team. Manning has mastered the quarterback position. I am not a Colts or Manning fan but I know sports fool!
@thetruthinsports if he's "mastered" being a qb why still only one ring why on nfl network they even always say brady is the better qb if thats a master thats just sad
@thetruthinsports ok well im not gonna be like him and curse you out, but man i like your opinion in why pytion is the best, But! i honestly think you are just taking peytons side, If you look at records they are even they both have many records they both have many accomplishments, Rings may matter but not as much, The only reason manning is preforming better than brady lately is b/c of Brady ACL injury 2 years ago, Manning held the record for more TDs in a season and look now, Brady toped it
with 50. Alot of ppl think manning is better b/c he reads defences and changes his plays, but look at all the weapons manning has.wiht a great RB, and First round pick TE and Receivers. Brady has great Receivers as well but he doesnt have the Running back like manning that doesnt give him those options and still puts up great numbers and sometimes even more than manning. brady barely has RB he has to rely on his passing game. all im trieng to say is your a bi-est person in this arguement.
@thetruthinsports yea but they didnt win. + it was only Brady's Second year back and he was just starting to feel comfortable back in everything. Look at the difference this year, Brady and the Patriots offense have to do most of the work sense their Young Defense Manning is still performing good with a good Defense and isnt even in playoffs yet (unless they beat Jacksonville ) The Numbers this year are how they normally are with brady leading almost everything in the QB position or in second.
@XxAlmontexX to Micheal Vick, while Manning isnt in the Top 5 this year because of his Turn over ratio he has. 15 interceptions this year while Brady only has 4. Manning is a good QB when he isnt being pressured Brady knows how to handle the pressure and benefits off of it
@Tyromecatron Yes he does have you not seen the past couple of weeks, Brady has no offensive coordinator and is still making 2 or more TD with No Interceptions. COmeon man 319!!!!!!!!!!! Pass's Without throwing a Interceptions !!!! are yu kidding me! that right their just proovs he is better than Peyton and he's doing it with a bunch of Rookies who at the beginning of the season no one new their names.
@thetruthinsports Yeah the Jet's sure did expose him this year. Brady lit them up for 45 on Monday Night. Where are your comments about how Manning threw 11 picks in 3 games?? The only thing that you "settle" in your video is how bias you are. Brady is making 5'9" Deion Branch look like a pro bowl recvr. What has happened to Mr. Manning since some of his All Pro recvrs got hurt? Oh yeah he's throwing picks & struggling to make the playoffs. Get a clue before you make "settling" videos.
@kmkjuggalo420 falls apart? he is 1-1. we lost against New Orleans because they outplayed us. the onside, going for it, and reggie dropping the fourth down pass. we could have won. you need to know what you are talking about
@MrIndianapolis13 Why do you Manning fans always point to every other play in XLIV OTHER than the pick 6? Just ONCE I'd like to hear a Colts / Manning fan blame Manning for that loss or even that interception AT LEAST. Or ANY loss for that matter. Why? Because it's NEVER Peyton's fault. Please.
@kmkjuggalo420 Peyton manning kills tom brady any day. Manning is the only player to throw a perfect game, and hes done it 3 times. Peyton has 4 nfl MVP awards. He goes to the playoffs every year with rookies and 3rd strings and no run game. The patriots are a better TEAM but peyton is the best qb ever to play the game.
um last time i checked peyton had marvin harrison his whole career....and yeah if brady had moss for as long peyton had harrison then brady would of won like every year..brady is part of a system? and you cant put him on any other team! wtf r u talking about hes so much more pationate and intense like to me brady but its very close its just brady is deffinitly better
@jjalves617 Where is Marvin Harrison? He was good but he didn't make Manning. What has Manning done since Harrison has been gone? He put up the same numbers and made Reggie Wayne a household name. Brady is a system guy and the Jets have exposed him and now everyone knows he gets rattled when under pressure. Manning will go down as the best ever.
@thetruthinsports he is a good help and that whole cheating shit was retarted every team "cheats" or studies tapes every week! i mean im a colts fan but brady is clearly better he accomplished so much more in less time
and yes, pats fans love using the super bowl ring double standard that ONLY seems to apply to manning and brady. ...it ONLY means that brady is better than manning; not that rothlisberger is better than manning, and not that bradshaw is better than brady.
thetruthinsports, you are absolutely 100% correct.
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i agree he shouldn't be in the top ten list of best-of-all-time quarterbacks... but because of his super bowl rings and the media's every-body-loves-a-winner mentality, his name will be tossed around in that list whether it belongs there or not.
i agree with you completely... and so do 12.5 out of 15 hall-of-famer quarterbacks.
brady terrible under pressure? he had how many rings with final drives including superbowl 42. Manning proved to be better then brady under pressure by throwing that pick 6 with 3 mins left. peyton over brady lol, thats like marino over montana. Brady above avg qb omg lol....... i mean lol....
Brady: 7 TDs & 1 INT in 4 super bowls. Those are clutch Montana-like numbers. I'll take the QB that doesn't make mistakes over the Marino-Favre-Manning QB with the gaudy regular season stats that tends to throw the big pick in the biggest games. Manning is 9-9 in the 18 most important games of his life. That is not G.O.A.T. material- thats goat material.
Actually, I completely disagree with this video. Tom Brady is the superior quarterback, but not by much at all. Also, I disagree with you when you say that if you put Peyton Manning on a random team, that they will become playoff contendors, and not Tom Brady. Just because Brady has had the same coach his entire career, doesn't mean he totally relies on him. Also, Peyton Manning has had pro bowl recievers his entire career. Not Brady, he MADE Deion Branch look good. Brady can work with anyone.
Again Brady in a loss to the giants scored with 2:44 to go against the giants..While Manning with 3 min left on the on the clock throws a pick 6...So who cracks under pressure..Manning is Marino great reg season numbers but ave playoffs numbers...Manning 9-9 in the playoffs Brady 14-4 with clutch performances to be remembered...Just like Montana had thats why hes the greatest of all time Montana...
LOL brady out played manning in that game look at the numbers moron...Second Brady cracks under pressure???? In all 4 superbowl he made plays in the last 2 min of games to put his team ahead hence 2 superbowls mvps why?? Because he played excellent in the playoffs..Where it counts...
For one, brady cracks under pressure on da other hand manning is an absolute master when it comes 3 throwing against da blitz now brady does have more rings than peyton but how many championships you have doesnt measure how great of a player you are marino has no rings but he's still one of da best ever manning is also a great situational QB manning is the only QB that i kno that has went n2 the 4th qtr trailing by 17 points nd ended up winnin the game. he won that game against brady nd da pats>
Lets take a look the supposed better Qb throws a pic in the last 3 min of the game...Lets look even in the loss to the giants in the superbowl Brady threw a td with 2:44 left in the game...And the D gave of the up the TD to ELI and Plaixco...Now who cant handle pressure..I think you need to go back and take a look at some film...When it comes to clutch and playing to win the big game you take Brady...
Ur school is flawed...Now if we knew the facts you would run away my friend..Now the point of the game is to win the whole thing..And if your smart you take Brady...28 tds 15 interceptions in the playoffs..Manning 28-19 interception. Brady has 6 100+ passing games and 2 in the superbowl..Manning has 4 and none in the superbowl..
Again ur lacking the facts and your going on a eye ball assumption..When it comes to Playoffs You take Brady no doubt...And to say Brady is not a top ten qb of all time lacks serious football knowledge. Again Brady has a 14-4 record in the playoffs..Manning 9-9 with much better offensive weapons through out his career..
Now Montana let me guess is a system QB also??? The point is not to make a team a playoff contender but to make them into a championship team...Now Brady 3 rings 2superbowl mvps..Now thats a winner...With an ave offensive team.. But again I guess montana is just a system qb?? moron
@MJisKingKobesuckss Montana wasn't in this discussion. I probably know more about the game than anyone you know. I am not a Manning fan but it sounds like you have gone fanatical over Brady. Brady is terrible under pressure. Manning has more of a command of the game and he beats any defense. The super bowl was lost because of his coach going conservative before half time and not going for another score. The colts had just marched 97 yards on the Saints. Manning didn't play the whole 3rd quarter.
LOL@ this moron... Where are you now since manning choked??? And system QBS dont throw for 50tds and 8 iinterceptions..And you will never know Unless there on other teams..So your Bias and you clearly dont understand the game..
@MJisKingKobesuckss One thing I will say is you can't be all bad with your handle. I totally agree with that but football you may need to come to my school. Naw Kobe is a great player but not in the league with Jordan. We played against Jordan in High School
@thetruthinsports Lebron and kobe ... and maybe even vince for tornto are all / were in the same league as jordan...... hell.... 2 of those players sure in hell dunk better. and the other one has a way better shot.
@GMforlife90 LOL Kobe is not even a dunker bro....He does not have the athletic ability that a Jordan had or even a Lebron has right now..Being the same league means actual meaningful accomplishments...kobe was shaq sidekick for three rings...Jordan was never a sidekick in any of his rings...Hence Jordan 6 finals mvps 5 mvps 6 rings 10 scoring titles defensive player of the year award etc...None of these guys are Jordan or ever will be...Jordan=GOAT
@MJisKingKobesuckss Jordan IS the G.O.A.T. but even he needed help. What did Pippen & co win without MJ? Nothing. But what did MJ ever win without Pippen & co AND the greatest NBA coach of all-time? Nothing.
@777zippy777 You need players too win. Jordan did with it a 6'7 SF which is unheard of.Too win 6 rings as the legit leader 6 finals mvp you have to be the goat.Most players win with legit bigs about 98 percent of the time.lol pippen played terrible in the last 3 rings offensivley while a out of prime MJ carried them.I HAVE never seen one player such as kobe rely on his team more to win rings than any great player i have ever seen.Lol the guy just missed the most shots in nba finals history..
Tom Brady.......The Best QB of the Decade. No Question! Should already have 4 Super Bowls. He was not the reason the Pats lost to the Giants, he was on the sideline when that happened. The other 3 he had the ball last.......
Anyway, I hope the last Super Bowl, put the discussion to rest.
Peyton is a regular season QB period. Place any real pressure on him in a big game situation and he goes fetal. It's much easier to beat up on weak defenses during the regular season, this is why legacies are carved out with post season play & why he is overhyped and overrated. 12 years, 9-9 post season record & 1-1 in the superbowl? against Brady's 14-4 post season record with 3 superbowl victories. Cmon? get real!! blind colts fans need to take off the blue goggles
100% agreed peyton manning is the best quarterback in the game today if not ever tom brady is good but he will never be on peyton mannings level and another thing patriots fans talk shit and say the jets was an easy game for the colts to win lol the jets beat the patriots in week 2 16 to 9 so stop talking shit manning is better
I think this guy nail it right on the head. brady is a product of Bill Belichick system. Just look at what happen when brady went down. Matt Cassel coming in having started since HS and taking the pats to 11 wins. While Peyton Manning is carring a team that can only win 2 wins without him.
cwalke3408 1 month ago
I think you could make an argument for both QB's ! They both are going to the hall of fame! Lets be real here! You are right about Tom Brady and I'm a Pats fan. If you look team up in the dictionary you will see a patriots logo. They don't care about stats and they don't care about talk. Previous players have said it's the hardest system that they have ever played in! Make no mistake If Tom Brady doesn't have a good preseason he won't play! Thats reality!
Bostinlagga 2 months ago
how good was that system before Tom Brady? Brady is the system. Did Bellicheck look like a genius before Brady? No he dint. Its not the system its the quaterback
jaguarsball 4 months ago
@jaguarsball Not neccessarily. At leats the Patriots made the playoffs with Matt Cassel, the Colts are 0-10 right now, & will probably finish 0-16 the way they look this year. This Colts team neary went 16-0 only 2 years ago! A successfull system allows a backup to keep the ship on coarse. The 49ers had a system like this but everyone contributes their success to Montana & Young, but guys like Jeff Kemp,Elvis Grbac & Steve Bono were also very successfull when called upon. All Indy has is Peyton
tumonni1040 3 months ago
u guys should look at the pats D now worst in the nfl but they still win cuz of brady the colts d is better and they are on the field alot w out manning cuz 40 year old collins suks Brady Better thats that
TheMW22222 5 months ago
Tom Brady lost the Super Bowl fair and square, Manning caused his team to lose. Stats don't mean shit.....Wilt Chamberlain averaged 55 points a game in a season but is he better than Jordan? NO
DraikonZ3 5 months ago
Brady= 3 SB
Peyton=1 SB and a shit load of interceptions!!!!
This guy say's that championships is not a true measurement of how great a QB is?!! Can i say that this guy is just another fuckin idiot? Brady All Day...1 More SB and he will be the G.O.A.T!!! Sorry Joe Montana
swally1983 5 months ago
@MrVintage16 manning has a better offense!?!?!?!?! are u stupid o yea i forgot manning has 3 potential hall of fame players to throw to, well he doesnt have marvin harrison anymore but he was a beast and now he still has wayne and dallas clark and thats not better than wes welker and rob gronkowski are u STUPID!?!?!?!?!?! rob gronkowski is good but he is not better than dallas clark but see what happens when you give brady someone to throw to (randy moss) he wins an MVP "the end" BITCH!!!!!!!!
0609FDR 6 months ago
@shaq4everdominant buttt crap
Degoxen 7 months ago
@MrVintage16 yes! finnallly!!! brady looks great whe hes got 8 seconds to throw, but 1.5 not a chance.manning never has more then 4 seconds. i agreee
Degoxen 7 months ago
@shaq4everdominant how did that work in the last 4 years
TheZoom1994 8 months ago
this dude is a moron oh peyton manning could go to any team and they will be contenders ? what are you a precog lol how do you know he will succeed with any team ?
THAxTRUTH508 8 months ago
Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are also as good as their offensive line allow them to be. Neither of them is Michael Vick or Vince young who can run away from defensive lineman. They both need time to throw the ball and have both been lucky to have decent protection over the course of their careers. If you put Peyton Manning on the Panthers who give up 5 sacks a game he will struggle and they will not make the playoffs same with Tom Brady.
ryanjagessar 8 months ago
@ryanjagessar when u scramble like a dumb fuck then u get blitzed thats why they get sack and all that and manning and brady especially could take any team to the playoffs
TheMW22222 5 months ago
Easy, Peyton Manning all day!!
btez31 8 months ago
no way brady has 3 rings 50 td in 1 season most games with no interseptions!!!
BRADY is way better!!!!!!!
SuperTravisWalker 9 months ago
how is that if payton go to another team they would go to the playoffs you got to think what if he got wr that can't catch his passes and a rb that can't run the ball good or offensive lineman that can't block and the defense
biggmaine06 9 months ago
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link0zelda123 10 months ago
Dork.
777zippy777 11 months ago
Theres a reason why Peyton Manning was rated #3 QB of All-Time. and Brady was #28 I think. lol. Peyton Has like 95% of all Passing Records, More Touchdowns, Higher Completion Percentage, Higher Accuracy, more passing yards, more 4,000 passing yard seasons, and has 4 MVPs and a SB MVP, 49 Carrer 4th Quarter Combacks. One of them was quoted "Best game of All-Time" vs. Patriots in 2009. He camback to win 35-34 from a 21 point deficit And hes gaurunteed a Hall of Fame induction and SB Ring.Go Colts
SantmyreFilms 11 months ago
@SantmyreFilms What is this, a copy-and-paste Manning lovefest?? Go fondle your Manning dolls some more if you're that bored...
777zippy777 11 months ago
@777zippy777 Awww is the upset Pats fan mad? haha I would be too, knowing all you Pats fags ever do is go look up Manning Vids cuz I guess Tom Brady's wanna be male model ass doesnt do it for ya does he? The Colts barely lost by 3 points this year against the Colts with 9 major players injured. Nuff said. Brady is and always will be 2nd best to the Best QB Playing and 3rd best in History. Peyton Fuckin' Manning Babyy!!! Go Blueee!!!!! Super Bowls in Indy Babbyyy
SantmyreFilms 11 months ago
@SantmyreFilms The Colts barely lost by 3 points to the Colts? Huh... I must have missed that game. Obviously you made that error because you were too busy fondling your Manning "action" dolls... hahahahaha what a homo!
777zippy777 11 months ago
@777zippy777 I ment the Pats but doesnt matter when My Favorte QB is the #1 Playing. Yours has to settle for 2nd best. Dont get mad bro. Get Manning!!!
SantmyreFilms 11 months ago
I can always tell when I'm dealing with a semi-retarded, inbred Colts fan on here-- always the 100-word, run-on sentences with no punctuation, and the inane babbling without any response to my posts because they are clearly outmatched.
777zippy777 1 year ago
manning is better period say what you want but the reason yall say brady is better is because of the rings dont it make you better when your a true leader of your team i dont see that in brady manning has it all but the team where brady dont he has the rings the team but dont have the comanding dont have the real leadership he dont have the numbers manning has all of that including a ring the only thing manning dont have is a great team so hands down manning is better period take what you will
mudcurb1234 1 year ago
Ignorant nigger. You take the time to make a video and argue something you clearly have no idea about. Brady is about to win his second MVP with no name recievers this year. 3 rings, 50 TD season, never a great running back, less playing time than peyton, and all around makes smarter choices and doesnt choke in the playoffs. Haters can say 18-1, but last time i checked, nobody has done that before. He also threw the go ahead TD that game. Shout spygate all you want, smart people know th truth.
Mavericks411991 1 year ago
@Mavericks411991 Lol The Truth Is After Spygate Brady Hasnt Won a Superbowl And Ever Since The Giants Exposed Him In The Last Game Of There Near Perfect Season Brady Folded When Pressure Was Put On, and Not Only Should They Have Lost That Game The Giants met Them In The Superbowl And Did The Same Thing They Did There Last Meeting And Thats Pressure And Guess What He Folded Again, The Giants Have Exposed The Blue Print And Guess What the Jets Put Pressure And He Folded Once Again,Out In 1st Round
cacamonster91st 1 year ago
@cacamonster91st Maybe if Manning was able to actually put together more than one TD drive the entire game, the Colts might've beaten the Jets. 3&out, 3&out, 3&out, 11&out was the Colts' first 4 drives of the game. In the 2nd half? Nothing but 3 FGs. And you blame the Cromartie return? Of course you do, because you're a Manning apologist. Learn football, son. It's called a great coaching staff and great game plan. That's what the Jets did against both QBs and both teams.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@cacamonster91st And I'm not sure if Manning fans want to go around spouting off about how this is another one-and-done for Brady. OK, that's two for Brady. How many has Manning had? SEVEN. Seven one-and-dones in the playoffs, including in 2005, when they went 14-2, got the #1 seed and lost at home to the #6 seed. Sound familiar? Manning fans should know better than anyone how different the postseason is compared to the regular season.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 ok dude ima set it strait pats are good the colts are good BUT when you compare a QB by the championships your a idiot. if you are saying tom is better because of 3 rings your just another idiot.when you compare with rings your saying eli is as good as peyton your saying arron rodgers is as good as peyton your saying dan marino is baneth brady i guess that makes joe montana the best 4-0 at the superbowl.se what i meen you cant compare by rings you compare them by records and stats
mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 Uh, not quite, dude. If you compare them by just records and stats, then Favre is the GOAT. And I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but there is no fucking way that Favre is the GOAT. He's barely top 10. His many playoff failures killed his chances at being GOAT.
I don't go ONLY by rings anyway. I go by a combination of rings, stats, awards, records, etc... and right now, Montana has the best combination of all that. But to be the GOAT, you HAVE to have won multiple SBs.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 And don't even try to tell me that a QB gets records and stats all by himself anymore than a QB wins super bowls all by himself. EVERYTHING takes a team effort. Dilfer isn't better than Marino just because he won one SB, and Favre isn't better than Montana just because he has 3 MVPs and ALL the stats and ALL the records.
Comparing them only by records and stats is just as stupid as comparing them only by rings. It goes both ways.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 ok you dont wanna compair them by stats not records or superbowls ok lets compare them by talent. tom brady wasent good when he played for michigan and he just got lucky by getting in a team thats got great talent dont get me rong all respect to him and i wish him the best but when it comes to a QB with nothing to work with and you can still get a ring thats makes peyton better because he builds the offense from scratch where tom gets everything handed to him
mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 Brady "just got lucky by getting in a team thats got great talent" you say? Well let's look at that shall we...? In the Colts' last 25 games before Manning became their starter, they were 7-18. Guess what the Pats' record was in their last 25 games before Brady became the starter? You got it: 7-18.
In 2001, the Pats were coming off a 5-11 season in 2000 and NO ONE was picking them to do much more than finish 6-10 in '01. With Bledsoe, they started 0-2 and their season was over...
777zippy777 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 ...then Brady took over and, without ANY other changes to the team from 2000 to 2001 (other than at QB), he led the Pats to 14 wins in their next 17 games, including the super bowl.
Meanwhile, Manning took over for a horrid 3-13 Colts team from 1997 and in 1998, he led them to.... 3-13. WOW! What a huge difference Manning made. FIVE years later, he won his first playoff game.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 where whould you brady be if he whould have got drafted by the browns he whould be a normal QB.but this is fact you take manning put him in the browns he will take that offense comand them tern the talent into great talent and the second year there playoff contenders so dont run your mouth about stats and all that shit remember this is about talent not rings and stats you dont know shit because you keep going back to stats and rings.
mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 LMFAO!! Yeah, I've already seen what Manning is capable of with Browns-type teams. 3-13 in '98, 6-10 in '01 and this year when he threw 11 INTs in 3 games on a depleted Colts team. But yet, I'm supposed to believe he could take the Browns to the playoffs?? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah right.
But yeah, why go by stats and FACTS, when you can just spew out your retarded, biased opinions? Duh.
777zippy777 1 year ago
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mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 Your arguments make absolutely no sense. That would be like me arguing that Brady put up 21 points against the Jets but Manning only put up 16. So Brady's better. DUH! Yeah, take ONE game and use that as your argument. Real smart.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 ok now when you had the best WR in the nfl and a great offense like brady even tony romo chould win 3 superbowls and 1 of those the pats cheated who knows how far it gos back.then you got peyton manning number 1 draft pick out of tennessee and has it all except for scrambling he gets drafted by the colts in 1998. look what happens as soon as he plays that team gos from being a non winning loser franchise to wining a superbowl so dont give your shit about brady.brady is just a talk
mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 Yeah... the Colts went from 3-13 without Manning to winning a super bowl with him... IN NINE YEARS!! Brady took a 5-13 team and went 14-3 with them, winning a super bowl in his first year as a starter. OWNED.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 lmao DUMBASS your so fucking blind did you read what i said or are you just upset because your rong.back in bradys rookie year he had what he needed to win a superbowl but manning didnt the colts one there first superbowl in 2006 sence 1971 with baltimore i dont wanna hear that crap about brady he won his first superbowl as a rookie it aint about that brady had talent around him.manning didnt and still doesent wow reggie wayne.peyton is in a loser franchise and still got a ring
mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 Yeah dumbfuck, because the 7-18 Patriots were SO MUCH BETTER than the 7-18 Colts. And the 2000 Pats (5-11) were SO MUCH BETTER than the 1997 Colts (3-13). Get a clue, do some research, learn something about this subject, THEN come talk to me.
777zippy777 1 year ago
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mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 Wow. You're not too bright are you? I said it was stupid to judge QBs by ONLY stats & records. Just as stupid as it is to judge them ONLY by rings. Get your reading comprehension problems fixed before you try a debate on youtube.
777zippy777 1 year ago
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mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 I'll take that as you conceding defeat to me. You have some of the worst debating skills I've ever seen on youtube. Your arguments make no sense and are flimsy at best, your points (or lack thereof) are hard to decipher because you obviously haven't learned how to write intelligently yet. We keep running into the same crap because I'm arguing with an uneducated inbred Colts fan- which is a common problem for me when I'm debating this subject.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 When you try to claim that Brady walked onto a super bowl-caliber team, Yeah, I'm going to pummel that retarded theory with stats and facts. Which I did. Team win-loss records are KIND OF important when considering how good the teams were. YA THINK??
And then you take your ball and run home crying with your tail between your legs. Typical inbred Colts fan. No stats or facts to back up anything you claim, just spewing out stupid, biased bullshit right out of your ass.
777zippy777 1 year ago
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mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 LOL! And then you remove half of your comments? What a pussy. Ahhh, waste of my time anyway. You're not worthy of this debate. Go back to your figure skating, pussy. Way to man-up...
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 dude i deleted my comments because im imbarest by you.and you must be upsest with you check every five seconds on your emails to rite me back then you go and see my other comments you need to get out of the closet.go get a life just. because i dont want to argue you gotta keep replying me qut wineing.i seen how you set your profile up you need a life is this what you do sit online all day and talk about football you must be inlove with peyton manning because you got him all over
mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 You're "imbarest" by me?? Dude, you should be embarrassed by your lack of intelligence and basic spelling skills. I'll keep this going as long as you keep responding. You want it to end? Then stop responding. No, I'm not in love with Manning- you are. By the way, learn how to write and spell-- it might be beneficial to you later in life.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 what is going on between you 2? lol yall loseing it? there both great qbs
JW1990able 1 year ago
@777zippy777 what is going on between you 2? lol yall loseing it? there both great qbs.man that dude mudcurb is going nuts hes rite on 1 thing manning is a lil better.but dang he needs to shut up.
JW1990able 1 year ago
@777zippy777 why do all you people say well brady is the best because of superbowls?you look at what brady has accomplished ya i will be the first to say hes good not lie.but when you have a team like brady they went 14-2 this year ok his team got beat by the jets the pats chouldent even put up a fight and he has a better offense then manning.and i dont wanna hear well brady is plaing with scrubs when you go 14-2 thats not playing with scrubs he just aint what yall claim him to be
mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@777zippy777 peyton manning and the colts went 14-2 last year he took 1 pro WR and 1 rookieWR and turned them into superbowl talent in ONE YEAR.brady cant do that brady cant take a defenseive player from iwoa and turn him into a amazing TE i dont see brady making a not so good RB and get him a superbowl.ya its a team effort but where was that team before peyton got there.the pats didnt need brady they had a good team.CASE CLOSED.
mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 Dude, you are an idiot. Dallas Clark was an All-American TE at Iowa (Or "Iwoa", whichever way you inbreds spell it, if that helps you). Why do you think the Colts took him in the first round? Duh. And Brady went 14-2 with 36 TDs & 4 INTs, won MVP on a team with the 25th-ranked defense, worst 3rd-down defense, 30th-ranked pass D and a bunch of rookies, no-names, undrafted FAs for receivers. Give it up, retard, you are no match for me in this debate.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@cacamonster91st Brady had the game winning drive. After spygate..the patriots lost their defense. THATS WHY THEY HAVNT WON A TITLE. WATCH "A CONVERSATION ABOUT SPYGATE" ON YOUTUBE. WATCH IT WITH AN OPEN MIND PLEASE!!!!!!
Mavericks411991 1 year ago
@Mavericks411991 hey ya fukn dumass the reason we stoped haven a beast ass defense is cus all our good defensive players got really old or retired so of course were not gunna have a beast defense ya fukn dumass bitch
0609FDR 1 year ago
@0609FDR Your a fucking idiot. You proved my point. We lost our defeinsive players after spygate..thats why we havent won a title. Im a pats fan, you fucking retard. you make me LOL. epic fail.
Mavericks411991 1 year ago
Well the jets just prove that the pats are not the best team, and tom brady is not the best qb
TheMinnie45 1 year ago
dude thats not true at all
aar792 1 year ago
its tom brady dude 3 superbowl rings peyton has a ring to so im not saying he sucks i like peyton but u know its tom
football0909ify 1 year ago
One about that is not fair about Tom Brady is that most of his playoff wins has been field goals tom brady is one of the best QB but not because his clutch wins are something that somebody else did as a team in which brady ia apart of
trose45212 1 year ago
Of course, this video was made in November of 2009, so take that for what it's worth. SOUP OF THE DAY commentary. I guess we'll find out in a month if Brady can succeed where Manning failed.
777zippy777 1 year ago
"You can put Peyton Manning on any team in the NFL and they immediately become a playoff contender" says truthinsports. BULL. SHIT. Then explain the 2001 Colts, smart guy. Manning could barely carry the 2010 Colts to the playoffs in the 2nd worst division in the NFL! Put Manning on any one of a dozen teams that will be watching the playoffs at home this weekend and NOTHING CHANGES. We just saw in 2010 what Manning is like without all his weapons. Brady lost his weapons and made history.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 Brady Lost His Weapons So Now He Throws 5 Yard Completions And Screens To Midgets!?, That Potent Offense Sure Looked Good Agianst The Jets Sike! Horrible, Hmmm Pressure in Which Brady Cant Handle, It Looks To Me That Peyton Manning Had A Better Chance At Beating The Jets With Only One Legit Threat And 2 Offensive Starters Not To Mention A Tight End Who Never Had Playing Time In His Career, Without a 60 Yard Return By Cromartie It Would Be Peyton On Top Which Brady Couldnt Fulfill.
cacamonster91st 1 year ago
@cacamonster91st That potent Colts offense sure looked good against the Steelers in the 2005 divisional playoff... SIKE! (It's "psych", you illiterate inbred moron) Hmmm pressure in which Manning couldn't handle. And that was with Harrison, Wayne AND Clark to throw to. But at least Brady didn't throw his O-line under the bus after the Jets game like Manning did after that Steelers game.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 Ma Bad Didnt Know I Was Writing A College Paper With Proper Grammer, But U Know What When Its All Said And Done Peyton Will Go Down At Least Top 5 Alltime If Not The Greatest Of All Time When Brady Will Only Be Considered Top 10 Due To Not Having Comparible Numbers To Peyton So Goodluck With That, and Once Again Brady Hasnt Won A Superbowl Since Spygate Isn't That Funny, Brady As Guilty As Bill Belicheat So Dwell On Bradys Nuts When He Not In The Same League As Peyton.
cacamonster91st 1 year ago
@cacamonster91st Manning hasn't won a super bowl since spygate either- isn't that funny! Manning has won one super bowl in 13 years and it was against Rex Grossman. Have fun with that. Manning is also done winning anything. 11 picks in 3 games? No qb has ever been THAT bad. Manning is just proving that without his security blanket Dallas Clark, he sucks. Brady lost Moss and still threw 36 TDs and 4 INTs.
Manning threw as many pick-6s as Brady had INTs! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 Funny Thing Here Is They Video Taped The Rams Walkthrough To Win There First Superbowl, Thats Worse Then Like Taking Steroids, U Know Every Play Thats Coming, Doesnt It Seem Fishy When The Eagles Lost In The Superbowl And Complained About How The Patriots Knew When Every Single Screen Pass Was Coming, Hmmm I Dont Know Seems Like A Coincidence To Me, Its Because Bill Bellicheat Was Behind It As Well As The Players Were, Im Glad The Jets Exposed There Asses With Spygate.
cacamonster91st 1 year ago
@cacamonster91st Doesn't matter to me- they still won. I don't give a shit how they won. This aint pee-wee or high school football, son, this is pro shit. You do what you can to get an advantage. I hope they cheat their way to 3 more SB wins! Everyone does it- don't be so naive.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@cacamonster91st HELLYEAH lol
mudcurb1234 1 year ago
@mudcurb1234 They"re Ignorant, Brady Isnt Even In The Same Breath As Peyton, If Brady Wasnt Behind A Cheating Organization And Didnt Have a Ring On His Finger He'd Be Looked At Just Like Every Other Quarterback In The League.
cacamonster91st 1 year ago
Man Tom Brady dose not need Randy moss or any big play receiver he knows how to use his players and doesn't turn it over. now that the colts have had injured players manning is playing not that good. its not because im a pats fan it because it true.
RamSRT10owner 1 year ago
This dude doesn't know shit about football! Over 300 passes without any interceptions! Won 3 super bowls! 50 TDs in one season! And still crushing records! LETS KEEP IT REAL TOM BRADY IS #1 NUFF SAID!
jcjjcc 1 year ago
Peyton Manning is a choker, best example is the last Super Bowl. Brady is throwing to 5'9" recvrs and rookie TE's this year.. When he had a great recvr in Moss he threw 50 TDs in one year. Brady never had a 3 headed MONSTER like Manning has had in Harrison, Wayne & Clark. And Brady doesn't play in a Dome like Mr. Manning. Manning can go shine Brady's 3 rings. NOW the argument is settled.. LOL a system QB throws 50 TDs in one season?? Really??? You're a moron.
espdemon 1 year ago
Tom Brady never had 11 Picks in 3 games like Manning had this year. Peyton Manning's numbers in the Playoffs are terrible. Brady is the best big game QB since Montana. He's got 3 Super Bowls and he's not finished yet.
espdemon 1 year ago
I can't believe how dumb this guy in this video is.. Either he's just bias or dumb. The "system" is the NFL and the name of the game is winning, THAT is why we play. Ask Manning if he would trade his stats for 3 rings instead of 1. Oh.. and Tom Brady is "an above average quarterback" "Throws a good ball" Dude go take a walk.. Brady is a beast on the field and leads Manning head to head.
espdemon 1 year ago
how can you tell which one is bettter right now? To me i would wait until both of them retire and then you can compare the two. With the way tom playing right now, he might end up gettin his fourth SB ring and fifth appearances in the SB. To those, who said stats > rings, it is like compare dan marino to joe montana. You want a winner not a choker when playing the biggest game.
DragonsKing91 1 year ago
And yes, the Colts usually have a MUCH better running game than the Pats. Last year was different because they refused to call run plays, and this year is different because they're not that good at it and they refuse to call run plays. But before, they had Marshall Faulk followed by Edgerrin James, and Joseph Addai went off his first couple of years in the league.
cwebking45 1 year ago
So who's the best now? And please stop with all of that "system QB" BS for Brady. People always bring up the Matt Cassel thing, but people forget that Matt Cassel went 11-5 and missed the playoffs while having the easiest schedule in the NFL. He was in 1-4 against teams with a winning record. With the same roster, Tom Brady nearly went undefeated the year before. Undefeated to 11-5 and no playoffs. That's a drop off
cwebking45 1 year ago
at first i thought this guy was gonna come up with something smart to say.. i think that its too damn close to call personally.. tom brady fucks with defenses all game long, so does manning.. brady is more accurate. brady is better with pressure. manning is better at throwing interceptions.
soonermagic24 1 year ago
brady
BIGSKYGAMBLER 1 year ago
i couldnt have said it better myself
timmis250 1 year ago
Manning is average in the post season. He can dominate and put up numbers in the regular season but when it comes to the playoffs he is average. To look past Brady and his accomplishments is just bias. He is 14-4 in the playoffs with 3 Super bowls and a perfect regular season, proven he can win in the clutch. If you say championships don't make you great what does Stats. Peyton won a superbowl, but they didnt win because he played great, 1 td 2 picks. and a game ending INT in his last superbowl
febulamc 1 year ago
I prefer Manning..Brady reminds me of a guy who would put cameras in the other teams locker just to get ahead
brightestcrayons 1 year ago
oh they are playoff contenders alright thats why they always lose in the conference round. look there is one goal for every football player and thats the superbowl ring. tom brady has 3 rings he has what matters most. tom brady is tougher than manning. how?? lets see heres manning in a indoor stadium throwing good balls cuz hes indoors no weather affecting his throws. but heres brady that has to deal with wind rain snow and it affects him and he still has more rings.
raidernation80 1 year ago
I read one your comments where you said "Tom Brady is terrible in big games or pressure situations". I think his 154 passing yards in the 4th quarter against carolina in the super bowl. Truthinsports ahahhahahaha. Peyton= Greg Maddux. Tom Brady =Curt Schilling,Josh Beckett, What the hell is a "systems back" It should be system
theerraticone 1 year ago
@thetruthinsports ... i liked your video man, but, i dont agree with your point of view. I dont think one is better than the other, they are different kinds of QBs, and both are great, on Brady's side, he has won more Superbowls, and has had one of the best seasons in NFL history, better than any Manning has had, on Peyton's side, he is a QB/offensive coordinator, i mean the guy is a genius and just as good on throwing the ball as Brady. Manning also had a great system, Tom Moore and Dungy. Thnx
MrPrimu 1 year ago
I laugh at you. You know nothing.
From rookie till now
Manning has had nothing but superb talent...Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark. and for Rb Marshall Faulk and Joseph addai.
Brady has had who until 07...Deion Branch Troy brown and david givens. for RB cory dillion and kevin faulk just average Rb Faulk was more of a receiving Rb so that doesnt even count.
Then you make a mistake and give him Randy Moss and look what happens. Who's record did he shatter thats right. Peyton Mannings.
taynels03 1 year ago
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taynels03 1 year ago
System? Belicheck couldnt turn The Cleveland Brown franchise around. Brady has been more efficient in the playoffs. Rings do count. I respect your opinion but you're taking away from Tom Brady's accomplishments. Manning has always had the better O-Line. How? Run Blocking which allows for a great running game which allows Peyton to run numerous play actions and fool defenses. Brady has never had that. Can't truly say that Manning could make any other franchise a playoff team.
DpSkies 1 year ago
@DpSkies Come on man be real. The colts were the worst rushing football team in the league last year and they were playing in the super bowl. Get your facts straight man. Peyton is in control of the offense. Brady was and is a part of Belichek system. Matt Cassell put up similiar numbers but he has struggled in KC. To say he couldn't do anything in Cleveland is like saying Larry Brown didn't win a title with the Clippers.
thetruthinsports 1 year ago
@thetruthinsports Matt Cassell did not get his team to the playoffs and he had Randy Moss. I analyzed Matt Cassell that whole year and I have to say his accuracy is no where near Brady. Cassell in the clutch, no where near Brady. Again Taking too much away from Tom Brady. Just my opinion hopefully you can respect it like i respect yours. But saying Brady is all system is false. Belicheck is great (no doubt) but i do not believe he couldve done the same with Peyton.
DpSkies 1 year ago
@thetruthinsports Matt Cassell did not bring his team to the playoffs w/ Moss. Matt Cassell is not clutch like Brady. I respect your opinion, but to say Tom Brady is an "Above Average" QB is absurd. Sure Brady does fill the stat sheet like manning but look at the Super Bowls. 158 yards passing against CAR. Do you think Bill Russell was a product of Red Auerbach system? If so, this means Wilt was the better center. Im a UNC guy but Larry Brown is one of the most overrated coaches in the NBA.
DpSkies 1 year ago
@thetruthinsports Guarantee Matt Cassell couldn't put up 158 passing yards in a fourth quarter of a super bowl. Belicheck has been praised for his defensive schemes and his defense gave up 29 points in the super bowl. Belicheck is a great coach don't get me wrong. Here's the truth. Brady is more calm in the pocket than Manning is. Brady performs better in the clutch. I think Manning's performance against the Saints prove that. Is Bill Russell a product of Red Auerbach's system?
DpSkies 1 year ago
@DpSkies Belicheck is great but he was known as defensive minded guy. Good point on that one. Not saying he's overrated but people need to give Brady the credit he deserves. It's proven that Brady performs better in the big games. It's like comparing Bill Russell to Wilt or Greg Maddux to Curt Schilling. Was Joe Montana a system back?(not saying Brady is Montana) Was Marino better than Montana? Bill Walsh ran a great system and had a great defense.
theerraticone 1 year ago
This guy is stupid. everyone knows tom brady is the best. the pats are way better in the 2011 season. the pats are 9-2. the colts 6-4.
TheKoifish30 1 year ago
@TheKoifish30
so this guy is stupid for having an opinion.
tsingh1654 9 months ago
@TheKoifish30 lol
TheZoom1994 8 months ago
@DpSkies Peyton manning kills tom brady any day. Manning is the only player to throw a perfect game, and hes done it 3 times. Peyton has 4 nfl MVP awards. He goes to the playoffs every year with rookies and 3rd strings and no run game. The patriots are a better TEAM but peyton is the best qb ever to play the game.
Tyromecatron 1 year ago
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link0zelda123 1 year ago
You give too much credit to Bill Belicheck. He didn't do the same things with the Browns. Cmon man Tom Brady has been better in the playoffs. Give Brady Peyton's running game and O-Line. Brady has never had the running game Peyton Manning did. What makes Peyton effective is play action and the O-Line's ability in Run Blocking. You can't put Manning anywhere and consider that team a playoff team. Manning choked again.
DpSkies 1 year ago
man your fucking dumb brady is way better then peyton what is every team in the nfl trying to do win a fucking super bowl u put peyton in the big game and he falls apart u put brady in the big game and he's on the money so your telling me u would rather have a man thats gunna fall apartb in the big game cuz it dont matter how u do in reg season if u get to the super bowl and lose its for nothing so im sorry brady is better than peyton any day
kmkjuggalo420 1 year ago 4
@kmkjuggalo420 Look at your language man you seem to be having a problem with vocabulary. Clean up your argument. Brady is average against good defenses. The Jets keep exposing him. He was a part of a great system during those runs but the league have caught up with the Patriot schemes and Brady would be average on an average team. Manning has mastered the quarterback position. I am not a Colts or Manning fan but I know sports fool!
thetruthinsports 1 year ago
@thetruthinsports if he's "mastered" being a qb why still only one ring why on nfl network they even always say brady is the better qb if thats a master thats just sad
kmkjuggalo420 1 year ago
@thetruthinsports ok well im not gonna be like him and curse you out, but man i like your opinion in why pytion is the best, But! i honestly think you are just taking peytons side, If you look at records they are even they both have many records they both have many accomplishments, Rings may matter but not as much, The only reason manning is preforming better than brady lately is b/c of Brady ACL injury 2 years ago, Manning held the record for more TDs in a season and look now, Brady toped it
XxAlmontexX 1 year ago
with 50. Alot of ppl think manning is better b/c he reads defences and changes his plays, but look at all the weapons manning has.wiht a great RB, and First round pick TE and Receivers. Brady has great Receivers as well but he doesnt have the Running back like manning that doesnt give him those options and still puts up great numbers and sometimes even more than manning. brady barely has RB he has to rely on his passing game. all im trieng to say is your a bi-est person in this arguement.
XxAlmontexX 1 year ago
@XxAlmontexX The Colts went to the superbowl last year and they were 29th in rushing. Come on man get your facts straight.
thetruthinsports 1 year ago
@thetruthinsports yea but they didnt win. + it was only Brady's Second year back and he was just starting to feel comfortable back in everything. Look at the difference this year, Brady and the Patriots offense have to do most of the work sense their Young Defense Manning is still performing good with a good Defense and isnt even in playoffs yet (unless they beat Jacksonville ) The Numbers this year are how they normally are with brady leading almost everything in the QB position or in second.
XxAlmontexX 1 year ago
@XxAlmontexX to Micheal Vick, while Manning isnt in the Top 5 this year because of his Turn over ratio he has. 15 interceptions this year while Brady only has 4. Manning is a good QB when he isnt being pressured Brady knows how to handle the pressure and benefits off of it
XxAlmontexX 1 year ago
@XxAlmontexX Manning has no run game to back him up
Tyromecatron 1 year ago
@Tyromecatron Yes he does have you not seen the past couple of weeks, Brady has no offensive coordinator and is still making 2 or more TD with No Interceptions. COmeon man 319!!!!!!!!!!! Pass's Without throwing a Interceptions !!!! are yu kidding me! that right their just proovs he is better than Peyton and he's doing it with a bunch of Rookies who at the beginning of the season no one new their names.
XxAlmontexX 1 year ago
brady is better than Manning Even NFl.com saids it .
XxAlmontexX 1 year ago
@thetruthinsports Yeah the Jet's sure did expose him this year. Brady lit them up for 45 on Monday Night. Where are your comments about how Manning threw 11 picks in 3 games?? The only thing that you "settle" in your video is how bias you are. Brady is making 5'9" Deion Branch look like a pro bowl recvr. What has happened to Mr. Manning since some of his All Pro recvrs got hurt? Oh yeah he's throwing picks & struggling to make the playoffs. Get a clue before you make "settling" videos.
espdemon 1 year ago 6
@kmkjuggalo420 OWNED
troyterry2445 1 year ago
@kmkjuggalo420 falls apart? he is 1-1. we lost against New Orleans because they outplayed us. the onside, going for it, and reggie dropping the fourth down pass. we could have won. you need to know what you are talking about
MrIndianapolis13 1 year ago
@MrIndianapolis13 Why do you Manning fans always point to every other play in XLIV OTHER than the pick 6? Just ONCE I'd like to hear a Colts / Manning fan blame Manning for that loss or even that interception AT LEAST. Or ANY loss for that matter. Why? Because it's NEVER Peyton's fault. Please.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 i blame him completely. get a life fag
MrIndianapolis13 1 year ago
@MrIndianapolis13 hahaha eat shit, douchebag.
777zippy777 1 year ago
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@kmkjuggalo420 Peyton manning kills tom brady any day. Manning is the only player to throw a perfect game, and hes done it 3 times. Peyton has 4 nfl MVP awards. He goes to the playoffs every year with rookies and 3rd strings and no run game. The patriots are a better TEAM but peyton is the best qb ever to play the game.
Tyromecatron 1 year ago
this guy knows what he is talking about this is what iv been trying to tell everybody about my colts and you made good points on brady as well
hotstylesboi 1 year ago
um last time i checked peyton had marvin harrison his whole career....and yeah if brady had moss for as long peyton had harrison then brady would of won like every year..brady is part of a system? and you cant put him on any other team! wtf r u talking about hes so much more pationate and intense like to me brady but its very close its just brady is deffinitly better
jjalves617 1 year ago
@jjalves617 Where is Marvin Harrison? He was good but he didn't make Manning. What has Manning done since Harrison has been gone? He put up the same numbers and made Reggie Wayne a household name. Brady is a system guy and the Jets have exposed him and now everyone knows he gets rattled when under pressure. Manning will go down as the best ever.
thetruthinsports 1 year ago
@thetruthinsports he is a good help and that whole cheating shit was retarted every team "cheats" or studies tapes every week! i mean im a colts fan but brady is clearly better he accomplished so much more in less time
jjalves617 1 year ago
This is pathetic. You're a moron.
xMonsterRyanx 1 year ago
@xMonsterRyanx It's the truth fool! Anyone who knows football would agree with me and not homer Pats fans
thetruthinsports 1 year ago
Peyton is Better...he dont need to ....CHEAT !
CowboysAndColtsFan 1 year ago
and yes, pats fans love using the super bowl ring double standard that ONLY seems to apply to manning and brady. ...it ONLY means that brady is better than manning; not that rothlisberger is better than manning, and not that bradshaw is better than brady.
resesmilk2 1 year ago
yes brady is part of a system.... remember how well matt cassel played when brady got injured? yea, and then he goes to the chiefs... and.... yea.
resesmilk2 1 year ago
thetruthinsports, you are absolutely 100% correct.
subscribed.
i agree he shouldn't be in the top ten list of best-of-all-time quarterbacks... but because of his super bowl rings and the media's every-body-loves-a-winner mentality, his name will be tossed around in that list whether it belongs there or not.
i agree with you completely... and so do 12.5 out of 15 hall-of-famer quarterbacks.
because we aren't football pseudo intellectuals.
resesmilk2 1 year ago
@resesmilk2 Good point
thetruthinsports 1 year ago
brady terrible under pressure? he had how many rings with final drives including superbowl 42. Manning proved to be better then brady under pressure by throwing that pick 6 with 3 mins left. peyton over brady lol, thats like marino over montana. Brady above avg qb omg lol....... i mean lol....
FortMinorsBiggestFan 1 year ago
Brady: 7 TDs & 1 INT in 4 super bowls. Those are clutch Montana-like numbers. I'll take the QB that doesn't make mistakes over the Marino-Favre-Manning QB with the gaudy regular season stats that tends to throw the big pick in the biggest games. Manning is 9-9 in the 18 most important games of his life. That is not G.O.A.T. material- thats goat material.
777zippy777 1 year ago
Actually, I completely disagree with this video. Tom Brady is the superior quarterback, but not by much at all. Also, I disagree with you when you say that if you put Peyton Manning on a random team, that they will become playoff contendors, and not Tom Brady. Just because Brady has had the same coach his entire career, doesn't mean he totally relies on him. Also, Peyton Manning has had pro bowl recievers his entire career. Not Brady, he MADE Deion Branch look good. Brady can work with anyone.
sk8india90 1 year ago
good points manning is definently the better quarterback.....GO COLTS!!!!
choochoopm 1 year ago
Peyton still had that one game against the pats were he finally went to the Superbowl and won
11crazyfreak11 2 years ago
Again Brady in a loss to the giants scored with 2:44 to go against the giants..While Manning with 3 min left on the on the clock throws a pick 6...So who cracks under pressure..Manning is Marino great reg season numbers but ave playoffs numbers...Manning 9-9 in the playoffs Brady 14-4 with clutch performances to be remembered...Just like Montana had thats why hes the greatest of all time Montana...
MJisKingKobesuckss 2 years ago
LOL brady out played manning in that game look at the numbers moron...Second Brady cracks under pressure???? In all 4 superbowl he made plays in the last 2 min of games to put his team ahead hence 2 superbowls mvps why?? Because he played excellent in the playoffs..Where it counts...
MJisKingKobesuckss 2 years ago
The numbers were similar and the pats are sturggling to get back to the superbowl while the colts might go next year again.
11crazyfreak11 2 years ago
For one, brady cracks under pressure on da other hand manning is an absolute master when it comes 3 throwing against da blitz now brady does have more rings than peyton but how many championships you have doesnt measure how great of a player you are marino has no rings but he's still one of da best ever manning is also a great situational QB manning is the only QB that i kno that has went n2 the 4th qtr trailing by 17 points nd ended up winnin the game. he won that game against brady nd da pats>
mrravimc 2 years ago
Lets take a look the supposed better Qb throws a pic in the last 3 min of the game...Lets look even in the loss to the giants in the superbowl Brady threw a td with 2:44 left in the game...And the D gave of the up the TD to ELI and Plaixco...Now who cant handle pressure..I think you need to go back and take a look at some film...When it comes to clutch and playing to win the big game you take Brady...
MJisKingKobesuckss 2 years ago
Ur school is flawed...Now if we knew the facts you would run away my friend..Now the point of the game is to win the whole thing..And if your smart you take Brady...28 tds 15 interceptions in the playoffs..Manning 28-19 interception. Brady has 6 100+ passing games and 2 in the superbowl..Manning has 4 and none in the superbowl..
MJisKingKobesuckss 2 years ago
Again ur lacking the facts and your going on a eye ball assumption..When it comes to Playoffs You take Brady no doubt...And to say Brady is not a top ten qb of all time lacks serious football knowledge. Again Brady has a 14-4 record in the playoffs..Manning 9-9 with much better offensive weapons through out his career..
MJisKingKobesuckss 2 years ago
Now Montana let me guess is a system QB also??? The point is not to make a team a playoff contender but to make them into a championship team...Now Brady 3 rings 2superbowl mvps..Now thats a winner...With an ave offensive team.. But again I guess montana is just a system qb?? moron
MJisKingKobesuckss 2 years ago
@MJisKingKobesuckss Montana wasn't in this discussion. I probably know more about the game than anyone you know. I am not a Manning fan but it sounds like you have gone fanatical over Brady. Brady is terrible under pressure. Manning has more of a command of the game and he beats any defense. The super bowl was lost because of his coach going conservative before half time and not going for another score. The colts had just marched 97 yards on the Saints. Manning didn't play the whole 3rd quarter.
thetruthinsports 2 years ago
Bill was 38-44 without Brady remember that..
LOL@ this moron... Where are you now since manning choked??? And system QBS dont throw for 50tds and 8 iinterceptions..And you will never know Unless there on other teams..So your Bias and you clearly dont understand the game..
MJisKingKobesuckss 2 years ago
@MJisKingKobesuckss One thing I will say is you can't be all bad with your handle. I totally agree with that but football you may need to come to my school. Naw Kobe is a great player but not in the league with Jordan. We played against Jordan in High School
thetruthinsports 2 years ago
@thetruthinsports Lebron and kobe ... and maybe even vince for tornto are all / were in the same league as jordan...... hell.... 2 of those players sure in hell dunk better. and the other one has a way better shot.
GMforlife90 1 year ago
@GMforlife90 LOL Kobe is not even a dunker bro....He does not have the athletic ability that a Jordan had or even a Lebron has right now..Being the same league means actual meaningful accomplishments...kobe was shaq sidekick for three rings...Jordan was never a sidekick in any of his rings...Hence Jordan 6 finals mvps 5 mvps 6 rings 10 scoring titles defensive player of the year award etc...None of these guys are Jordan or ever will be...Jordan=GOAT
MJisKingKobesuckss 1 year ago
@MJisKingKobesuckss Jordan IS the G.O.A.T. but even he needed help. What did Pippen & co win without MJ? Nothing. But what did MJ ever win without Pippen & co AND the greatest NBA coach of all-time? Nothing.
777zippy777 1 year ago
@777zippy777 You need players too win. Jordan did with it a 6'7 SF which is unheard of.Too win 6 rings as the legit leader 6 finals mvp you have to be the goat.Most players win with legit bigs about 98 percent of the time.lol pippen played terrible in the last 3 rings offensivley while a out of prime MJ carried them.I HAVE never seen one player such as kobe rely on his team more to win rings than any great player i have ever seen.Lol the guy just missed the most shots in nba finals history..
MJisKingKobesuckss 1 year ago
@MJisKingKobesuckss if manning choked then brady choked and died this playoffs LOL
GMforlife90 1 year ago
@5Deep09
HELL YA
VarsityWrestler13 2 years ago
Tennesse titans?????WTF....Brady is on New England and Mannings on Indiannapolis
VarsityWrestler13 2 years ago
Tom Brady.......The Best QB of the Decade. No Question! Should already have 4 Super Bowls. He was not the reason the Pats lost to the Giants, he was on the sideline when that happened. The other 3 he had the ball last.......
Anyway, I hope the last Super Bowl, put the discussion to rest.
charger109 2 years ago
Peyton is a regular season QB period. Place any real pressure on him in a big game situation and he goes fetal. It's much easier to beat up on weak defenses during the regular season, this is why legacies are carved out with post season play & why he is overhyped and overrated. 12 years, 9-9 post season record & 1-1 in the superbowl? against Brady's 14-4 post season record with 3 superbowl victories. Cmon? get real!! blind colts fans need to take off the blue goggles
tsmith77772 2 years ago
100% agreed peyton manning is the best quarterback in the game today if not ever tom brady is good but he will never be on peyton mannings level and another thing patriots fans talk shit and say the jets was an easy game for the colts to win lol the jets beat the patriots in week 2 16 to 9 so stop talking shit manning is better
kmoney29 2 years ago
stfu u dont kno what u talkin about Tom Brady is way better
xandersonx94 2 years ago
Every word you said in this video I agree with and you explained it very well too.
JohnEko 2 years ago
Well put my brotha
Denvervol4life 2 years ago