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  • Exactly... Bigotry and violence is the natural product a belief in imaginary god characters, and/or religion. :O/

    Katalyzt

  • A neurological desease that does not have a cure but instead is passed on from one generation to the next. Excellent clip.

  • He did all that for 1000 virgins.

  • blind faith will cause humanity's demise

  • Sorry Im Religion before think (rolls eyes)

  • atheism is not a religion

  • Yup.. You're so right. Thanks for reminding me that all religions enjoy suicide bombing the innocent.

    You atheists are spot-on...

    Why couldn't you be productive and use this footage and a nice poem to help support the War on Terror? That'll definitely make your pointless life here on Earth worthwhile...

  • I don't need your label. I am in the natural state of man. Without belief in mythology...  you don't call me an Aastrolger.. or an aalchemist... I don't need to be called an ATheist either. I don't need a label because I am normal, intelligent, and without delusion. you need the label. You are the abnormal one.

  • I have to say, very good commercial. I'm an atheist myself, and a soldier. Let's prove the world how rationalizing and start thinking for ourselves will bring a better life to wherever atheist step a foot.

  • :( this makes me sad to see the fighting. If you're a Christian, be a Christian and love. Stop fighting start loving. Be an example not a hate/fear monger!

  • This cowardly video ends in ultimate ignorance, condemning religion because of radical Islam. Call a spade a spade. Don't be afraid.

  • @helpmetony Oh, we'll just make one with some Irish Republic Army footage instead and then you Christians can be happy.

  • @ih8makinusernames you obviously don't understand what Christianity is about.

  • i really love to see one day that people will see any religion or even atheism from the people who really practise it......

  • There are many good sides of Religion, but most people tend to go overboard with their believes and that's when shit starts hitting the fan.

  • I'd like to see this suicide bomber face when he realizes, that there is no heaven and none virgins are waiting to be fucked...

  • Wow. Very well done. We will show this at our next freethinker meeting.

  • great Video man .....some good work

  • I am an atheist yet i am happy, I am an atheist yet i find motivation to live and to thrive. I am an atheist yet i am moral. I am an atheist yet i am wise and compassionate. I am an atheist yet i have deep meaningful long lasting relationships. I am an atheist yet i do not let fear or fear of death consume me. I am an atheist yet i still have HOPE. Atheists are better off than you are. Atheists are better for the world and any community than religious people. check the GPI why dont you.

  • @GrenGoddess Thanks, thanks. This is exactly what I would like to say to all people in the world.

  • @GrenGoddess All religions teach kindness. Whether you believe in God or not. Believe in love and show it to everyone not just those who you believe are deserving of it. No one is better off than any other person. We are all children.

  • @KillerWhalenigga Well, the terrorist on the video really thought he does a good thing by klling infidels. He really sacrifies himsef here. True believer..

  • and THAT is why religious beliefs are WRONG that is why any form of worship is WRONG. that is why believing in any god or deity is WRONG. that is why every religious belief is a mental illness a neurological disease that needs a lifetime of therapy to cure so that people can get back to their lives again, and realize that the world and truth isnt bad. And that all we really need in life is one great PERSON who we can love, care for and trust and get the same back. no imaginary friend does that.

  • but i did NOT. By LIVING in the REAL WORLD i found a REAL person who was better than anything i couldve dreamed up. Being with the real person in real life is inifinitely more meaningful, blissful and wonderful than if i just stayed stuck in that deluiosn forever. REligion is a delusion, to attempt to find any meaning from fiction than you can from real people and real life is just point. Being religious and believing in god is NOT living. You are throwing your life away to live in a delusion.

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  • I really like this video...and to me it doesnt really advocate atheism so much as denouces religious indoctrination. Don't follow blindly, read, research, question, find our own answers, but any religion that demands blind obediance, advocates death and killing and condems others as completely wrong and damned is misguided and evil! and i repeat...ANY religon..

  • @zenithsage Well and you don't expect to win a lottery 10 times in a row either, do you? Because that's how I felt when I began to search and then follow the woird of God. Basically, I fell 10 times better than a any richest dudes in the world or any luckiest folks under our blue sky..

  • @zenithsage First rule about the meaning of God, is that God isn't a man and therefore what might be impossible in your eyes, for God it's like take a walk in the park. Do you know the world? Because you don't know even half of what you are suppose to. And what about things that you can't see or feel? What you don't know, you can't disprove. You talk like if you were God. But truth is objective, not subjective, that's how people experiencing God in so many ways yet the same promise and same God.

  • @zenithsage "Any god that is verified will be considered real, until then he is not real." Wow, you're saying it like if God owes you something. Ehm, in theory since you broke about all of Gods commandmets, God should send you far away as possible from all that is good in God's presence. But instead God gives you a chance to repent and what do you do? "God is not verified." Have you a verified brain maybe? Have you like lost your senses completely or something? remember, God is higher than you.

  • @zenithsage There is a huge difference between a rational thought of wisdom and fear, just so you know. Do I really need to explain that? Also you have a free will to do with what you've got, what's the problem? You've got a mouth, you can eat or you can talk. But yes, God chose it for you to be this way, and if you absolutely must complain, then stop living, who cares? Ohh yeah, you should be. But I forgot that it's normal to kill people, not giving them life. Makes sense to you? To me neither.

  • @zenithsage

    So if you do not choose to search the truth, you have said no to responsibility for your own life which is pretty reckless. And if you say that you don't need an imaginary being when all hell is breaking lose around you, you would wish for it not to be imaginary any longer and to come and help you out. And so you can say that the truth is only imaginary, but the problem is that that statment is neither based on the truth or any benefits for your life. Seek and you shall find.

  • @zenithsage

    You don't seem to understand that there is no middle way in life. You always must pick a side or someone will pick it for you. When you are poor, you can't just say, that you now decide not to work anymore because you don't believe in it's benefits and yet believe that you will still somehow survive. Consiquences will follow, hunger, death. Where is the future in that?

    Also, the truth can't be changed by any philosophy of man and if you search for truth you will eventually find it.

  • Loved the ending, good closing point.

  • awesome!

  • Yay I'm being discussed :D

  • Great Job! Powerful & True!

  • @Trying to be clever aye?

    Seriously, to you it's all the same.

    if it is God or the idea of God, the point stays.

    Check out 1 comment above what catguyauble is writing.

    You people just can't stand the idea of you taking the fault for all of what's going on in this world and that you should bow to the almighty being. How patreotic, isn't it? Don't get in a way of your pride, it might kill you.

  • Evolution Not Revolution!

  • This, like the other, was intricate, beautiful in its own respect. If god is real, I loathe him. I loathe him for all of the madness, the violence, the war, that he allows to pass.

  • then I guess you have that faith of rejection too. do you believe in Allah? Shiva? Vishnu? Wotan? Zeus?... no? you have a faith of rejection too. hate towards God? let me get this, according to you we hate a being we don't believe it exists (brilliant), I hate Tinkerbell then, are you kidding? so you know God? how lucky XD enlighten us please.. but don't say at any time that God is beyond our understanding and the usual bullshit, spare yourself an embarrasing contradiction XD

  • @DocStrange0123 I have faith in God. And I pray in authority that we have in Jesus and all evil spirits bow before God. Have any of you Atheists had such an experience before? I'll bet not, because you hate to search the truth. If you did, you would had found the true God. The point is, that God is true. And his powers have been demonstrated too many times to ignore it. I don't need to say that God is beyond our understanding as most people don't even understand what they do and to wich point.

  • @VadimCool what a delightful irony, "we hate to search"... lmao.. big claims require big evidence, you claim and offer none. what is the true God may I ask? let's ask a muslim or a hindu or someone else about the true god or gods and let's see what they claim. the point is that you believe that your particular version of a supreme being is true end I don't believe you, that doesn't make the super being real, get over it. Ancient writings from superstitious deser nomads are not impressive

  • @DocStrange0123 There are many ways to a lie and only one way to truth. You can pick and believe a lie, but I rather search and find the truth. There are many ancient writing, but how many of them do people actually follow and what do they get out of it once they do? True God has true positive affect on people. True God shows us true love. Where is my evidence? I don't need one. Because when you search true God and not a religion, you shall find God and God's love for you. And it's your life.

  • @VadimCool In other words, you believe 'cause you want to, period. I've heard the same exact empty speech from people that believes in other hocus pocus magical sky daddys... if you don't need avidence no wonder why you believe in this nonsense... name one aspect of your life besides religion where you wouldn't ask for evidence in order to consider if a claim is likely to be true or likely to be false, just one... this God is made up, get over it...

  • @DocStrange0123 As a matter of the fact I searched for evidence I think about for 2 years, then digesting them for 1 whole year after that just to be sure. And no, I couldn't get over it. because once you've seen stuff, it doesn't matter what books or people say what, as experience counts for heck of a lot more than any statement. Besides optimistic statements count also more than pessimistic.

  • @VadimCool sorry but... wtf are you talking about? because you wrote a lot and said nothing... at least nothing that could be commented.... optimistic statements count more? ?¿?¿? o.O seriously wtf are you talking about?

  • @DocStrange0123

    I'm talking about hope. About life which is clearly is about living and not dying. Atheims destroys hope for continuation of life and therefore is considered or should be considered as a threat for humanity. If we don't keep an open mind towards life and stop searching for more in life than just Atheism, then something is wrong. Atheism or God, is like comparing suicide with life. Yes we must search for truth. Then what is stopping you Atheists?

  • @VadimCool oh really? well, WHAT IF there is no continuation of life?. Religion destroys the fullness of life with this supposed afterlife if this is the only life we'll ever get therefore religion should be considered as a deterrant, right? (following your reasoning). Atheism is "without belief in a god or gods", that's all, it's just a definition of the position of an individual towards religious claims... you've clearly shown you don't know what Atheism really is/means. try again

  • @DocStrange0123

    "Well, WHAT IF there is no continuation of life? Religion destroys the fullness of life with this supposed afterlife..", you know what, I couldn't agree with you more. That's why I'm should become an Atheist so I can go and start killing people! Heck it's fun, we'll have the rush of our lives and not to mention I will feel like I'm born again and on top of the world, I'm the King baby! No? Ahh, I thought so. Then what position is it exactly? As without God I know only one, death.

  • @VadimCool nonsense, you don't get a free ride on anything juat for being an atheist, every individual take full responsability for theyr actions. If you need aninvisible sky daddy to behave in a civilised manner towards other human beings you sir have a problem not me... the more comments you make the more it's crystal clear that you have a huge missconception about atheism; learn what's anbout exactly and then come back, I have a very low tolerance level for stupid bullshit; good day.

  • @DocStrange0123

    Bullshit! What responsibility and for who? You said it yourself. (Atheism is "Without belief in a God or Gods.") Well, then is there is no higher power of a being with laws to judge man. Then the concept of Atheism goes all the way, something like "Atheism is without belief in any laws or restrictions, no limits, living to the fullest!" We make of life what we want to at that point and do what we want to, total Anarchy! We all search for something good, and it's not in Atheism.

  • @VadimCool

    If life has emerged by a random chance, then so does all meaning for life. What is there left? Certainly no love as that would be an illusion without spiritual world. And in spiritual world without God isn't going to do us much good as men are evil from inside out. Every single day. You better pray your friends and family never see what you're thinking about them. God must be real or we are screwed anyways! Do you want to take God's position? You're welcome if you can or even dare!

  • @VadimCool I don't believe in any human god (including yours) so don't preach to me Mr. holyer than thow...

  • @VadimCool Theism=belif in a god or gods. A= without. Atheism=without belif in a god or gods. Nowhere means "without any laws or restrictions". Do you have some kind of malfunction with your reading/comprehension skills or you are just thick? the only thing Atheists have in common is that we don't believe in gods or the supernatural. Atheism is not what you want it to mean, you don't have a fucking clue; I'm done, you just don't get it or don't want to, it's pointless to talk with a wall.

  • @DocStrange0123 No I see clearly what you are writing. But unless you want your writing to be meaningless, then I also see what you are saying or suggesting by removing yourself from the position of believing in afterlife, you are removing yourself from a position in life as it is. Because after-life would be the reason to not making life a hell. But no after-life? No responsibilities. And personal morals created by men. No reason to value what is without a reason, imaginary or dead, is there?

  • @VadimCool this is getting boring... there is no magic, most probably this is the only life you'll ever get, most probably there is no god, most probably there's nothing after death; that doesn't mean "do what you want"... is fucking simple... if you can't understand such a simple concept as a definition of a position regarding religious claims no wonder why you believe is some bronze age fairytale... I'm not going to reply again until you at least go to wikipedia and read what Atheism is, bye

  • @DocStrange0123

    I am not talking about what Atheism is, but more what it isn't... It isn't of any of a damn importance neither to this life nor to the after-life. And clearly even you don't know what it is, then how should I? There are many things written in wiki, but that doesn't mean that there is a solid and rational reason behind it. I can say that "I retreat from believing in effort of men." Ok, and what then? Just drop dead? Wow, that helps getting... NOWHERE! There is no sense in Atheism

  • @DocStrange0123

    I And it's already evident that we don't need no more evidence than we already have in order to start searching for Intelligent Designer of the Intelligent Design. So atheism in my eyes just an excuse (without any positive outcome on the world and the reason we live by), just to not have God over us in our lives, no matter whether God is a reality or not, just as long as we don't have to believe in God. We can ignore the possibilities or we can start trying the possibilities.

  • Oh, much better! There you go! Religion accurately portrayed as the cause of hate and strife. Good stuff. How much money do you have? Can you actually get this on television? Write some prominent (wealthy) atheists maybe they can help you out. I'd love to see this on TV

  • titanic song lol

  • whens the last time an atheist started a war?

  • hahaha, it cant go on nearly as long as any other religion. its funny because you probably just googled that. i don't know if you have heard of the holocaust or not? And thats a very dumb statement for you to say Ho Chi Minh started the Vietnam war.. hahaha, it was caused by a whole domino effect of people and countries.

  • okay, gonna explain this once, an Athiest may have started those wars, but what you forget is atheism is not a religion it is not an orgaznied religion, it can not take blame for anything cause it is nothing but the lack of belieif in a god....every athiest is to his own, to do any bidding he want's.......unlike christianity which can be DIRECTLY BLAMED for one of the worst and bloodiest wars ever the "HOLY" crusade's

  • @nappyhead828828 Those guys are all totalitarian dictators, and communists.

    Totalitarian regimes always crush all opponents if they can't get them to join their agenda. The Nazis and Facists allied themselves with the Christian churches of Europe (and locked up any individual priests who refused to go along with it. The Russian Soviets were not entirely anti-religion, sections of the Orthodox Church which played along were spared, the rest were crushed.

  • @nappyhead828828 Those people did not start the wars BECAUSE they were atheists. And they are responsible for the prejudice against atheists today.

  • There was once a man named Karl Popper, which fundamented the philosophy of science. He demonstrated that communism is a religion. Mao? A religious who killed in the name of another religion. The ex-communists in Romania are now the most religious here. Coincidence? NO.

  • North Korea, you say? Ok, let's look at that country. Who is the "ethernal president" there? Yeap, you guessed it by now: it's a relligion.

  • Hang on, you think atheism is a religion? You a just like every other fucking fundie out there. Absolutely fucking retarded.

  • No. A little bit of logic wouldn't do harm.

    Communism is NOT ateism. Communism is communism. A religion. I was talking about a different thing. Confusion between different things are done by the fucking fundies :)

    Atheism is a religion as bald is a hair color and not collecting stamps is a hobby.

  • Oh right. Communism isn't a religion either, its a political ideology. The way it has been implemented has made it appear like a religion. Communism is the best thing that could ever happen to the world, its just that its near impossible to actually happen.

  • more good has come out of atheism than any other religion.

  • you make it sound like atheism is a religion

  • that other shouldnt be there

    but they are all just belief systems, some more ignorant than others.

  • @Ryanlt

    Remove the word "other" and there you go. :D

  • @Ryanlt Are you kidding me! Let's see what the Catholic Church has done in the past 2,000 years... 1) The largest charitable organization on Earth. 2) Largest education organization on Earth. 3) Created the methods of reason and the scientific method. 4) Created the college system. 5) Created the hospital system. 6) Helps more people than any other organization on Earth. Shall I go on...your theory has been disproven.

  • @objectivismisright

    Not too mention killing more people than the nazis.............

  • @OliverFist Oh yea surrrrrre, where's your proof.

  • @objectivismisright

    did i forget to tell you about how the vatican is rich through its charitIes? and how they are they're own soveriegn nation within italy's borders?

  • @OliverFist No, the Catholic Church is rich because people donate money to the Church, and they also give a lot of it away to many charities world wide. What does the Vatican being its own country have to do with anything? Think about it, if the Church has over 1 billion followers, and about half of them give some amount of money to the Church, that's around $500 million, so yea they are going to be rich, but they give away a lot of it.

  • @objectivismisright when i google "inventors of scientific method" i get greek philosophers. when i google chatolic church i get inquisition and and only teaching nobels and monks to read. chatolic "charity" is a joke compared to secural charitys like doctors without borders and red cross. collages have existed in achent india so they did not invent it. hospital system was invented buy romans and then perfected by arabs. when medicene arived in europe chatolics hated it.

  • @gethsoftware The leading philosophers involved with the scientific method (e.g. Roger Bacon) were Roman Catholic. The Catholic Church invented the college system setting up the first universities. These "colleges" you refer to in India were only learning centers with no structure, unlike a college. Same with the hospitals, the Catholic Church created the first hospitals. The "hospitals" you refer to with the Romans were merely centers for healing, not organized and structured hospitals.

  • @objectivismisright What fellow "believers" to Roger Bacon? Kept him in jail for his choise to think freely almost till he died!

  • @Ryanlt I like your comment but atheism is not a religion, just saying

  • More "wise" words from your neighborhood "loving" christian.

  • @nappyhead828828 "quit acting as if your belief is "the truth". "

    I almost choked on the irony of that.

    Do you have any concept of how ridiculous it sounds when a religious person chastises a non-religious person for thinking their beliefs are special and the truth?

    When religious evangelists stop spreading their claims, we'll stop ours.

  • @nappyhead828828 Really? What can they have blind faith in?

  • Ow HD seems to work.

  • "Error occurred", which my best is guess is google is blocking the video.

    I am guessing after a cry from those Crazy Scientology.

  • They also say... non believers will burn for eternity.. you should kill homosexuals.. you should kill or "convert" someone not of your faith. Yes religion has some good morality... but so does philosophy and countless other books.

    If you can ignorantly believe something that is contrary to logic and reason... "Blind Faith" if you will.... then you can just as ignorantly blow yourself up in service to that faith.

  • yes but faith doesn't only cover religion.....

    i guess what im trying to say is, if the whole world was 100% atheist, there would still be people following others blindly to do whatever, there would still be people blowing themselves up,  there would still be wars, violence, discrimination, prejudice, there would still be mass murders, people killing other people thinking they will be remembered as martyrs, shall i go on??

  • But there would be much less of it. There would be less wars (most wars are based off of religion, like the current war today between the USA and terrorists), mass murders not so much, no people blowing themselves up (terrorism would be gone, since it's religion), violence maybe, discrimination... Some of the things you're naming have nothing to do with religion at all, thus are invalid.

  • no there wouldn't lol

    most wars aren't based of religion either.

    just to name a few: WWII the Japanese theatre, vietnam war, civil war, revolutionary war ( it was about taxation without representation), war of 1812, korean war, WWI, desert storm, operation iraqi freedom.

    terrorism wouldn't be gone, people just might blow themselves up, that doesnt mean they cant shoot up the place or blow it up tho. DISCRIMINATION!! LOL of course, there always has been....

  • and now for some international wars in which religion had nothing to do with: vietnam vs cambodia, vietnam vs china, cambodian civil war, war in rawanda, Falkland islands war, the cold war ( ill count this because it almost ended the world), those are just a few from the 20th century.....

    lets not forget all the drug wars and gang wars in the US, mexico, russia, and pretty much everyware....

  • yes but faith doesn't only cover religion.....

    i guess what im trying to say is, if the whole world was 100% atheist, there would still be people following others blindly to do whatever, there would still be people blowing themselves up, there would still be wars, violence, discrimination, prejudice, there would still be mass murders, people killing other people thinking they will be remembered as martyrs, shall i go on??

  • and how many churches, temples or mosques do you see around the US full of murderers and criminals??

  • plenty of pedophiles are priests and im sure many criminals still believe in god.

  • Plenty. People think that if they do things in the name of God, they will go to Heaven. This shows the ignorance in religion and theists. Some theists are tolerant and nice, though. Others? Not so much.

  • @orleyorg not homosexual are atheist. they are not bad person. they are just doing what they wanna do. it's their freedom, its their choice. as long as they dont do harm or hurt anyone.

  • @orleyorg Would it be acceptable to keep the nonviolent religions? Buddhism,Taoism, and Confucianism ?

  • @Winterwolf00 You forgot Pastafarianism.

  • @Killicon93 Ah yes of course.

  • @nappyhead828828

    bull shit.

  • That is for YOUR religion, perhaps. But for the Islamic faith, it's different.

  • really?

    and how many Muslims do you know?

    everybody can "jihad" but only the musluims faith puts it in their holy book.

    the true meaning of jihad is defending yourself, and family against oppression. if someone is attacking you, your family, or everything you've ever known, thats the only time you may fight.

    when the koran gets translated to english, it looses alot of meaning, and sometimes the words get a lil bit twisted.

    one more thing, what makes you think i'm religious? cause im not

  • Quite a few, actually.

    Also, I doubt you're a Muslim. You shouldn't be talking about it like that if you're not one. I'm wondering how many friends of yours are Muslim...

    And I considered you were religious because often Theists talk like you do. I'm an Atheist, but I do try to protect the smarttheists and increditheists, though not theism (I hate religion).

  • im not a muslium but about 20 of my friends are and i live right next to 2 churches and 1 mosque.

    why dont you sit down with a bunch of muslims, in fact go to your local mosque, and ask them what jiahd means and is all about...

  • @nappyhead828828 You can take all the bible versus you wont but it doesnt prove anything. Your damn sacred book has been changed so many times and refurnished to suit the leaders and modern world, and con artists also known as priests. Seriously open you eyes. Use your mind not a book.

  • So is the video trying to say that the 1% of religious extremist are the reason that religion is bad? do they forget that the other 99% of religious people HATE that 1% who are extremist.

    blind faith CAN lead to bad things. BUT when some says "faith" they automatically think- religion.

    you can have blind faith in many things that would lead to destruction way before religion. such as a movement, communist, capitalism, socialism, or a country...

  • No - it's saying believing things for which there is no evidence can have very real effects on the world.

    The reason 99% of believers may hate the 1% of extremists is that it exposes their bad thinking. No one can prove the extremists wrong, just as the other 99%.

  • Brilliant use of a Scientology video commercials.

    Full of visual irony and I love it. Subbed and faved.

  • Amateur? Well you wouldn't know it, that's amazing. How did you make this, it's great. Well done.

  • its funny how people take their religion so seriously , they get mad when someone else threatens there way of thought and will try to convert them aggressively or peacefully. They say they have answers but cant prove anything. They don't realize how mediocre their religion sounds but still pass it on as fact. Its like if someone truly believed in Santa or the easter bunny

    and took them seriously and attacked anyone who didn't not believe in their existence

  • So by the grace of God I have learned the superior method of learning the knowledge of all things, that is by learning their nature, their essence, instead of the details. This is the essence of wisdom, to learn through the essence of things to avoid going into the details, thus refraining from eating the forbidden fruit of curiosity for the sake of experiencing the hard way to learn the truth. Blind faith is safer than no faith, knowing the essence of the evidence for faith protects from evil.

  • "I have learned the superior method of learning the knowledge of all things" - By abandoning all means of investigation, logic, reason, evidence, scientific process & simply replacing them with three little words.... God did it. Nice job pal! Good luck learning anything by that avenue. Let me know when you drop out of school, assuming you haven't already.

    The essence of wisdom is to avoid going into the details? WTF? Very funny!

    "Blind faith is safer than no faith" Obviously not champ ;)

  • You just spent over an hour and a half writing those messages..... Well, that does makes me feel much better about wasting 15 minutes. ;)

  • As science and technology has advanced, the power of evil has also grown, and parallel to this growth of evil is the growth of the collection of evidence for proving all the stories in the holy scriptures to be true and the scientific aspects of all of the laws of God. The culmination of the growth of science and technology will end in human society stepping "backward" from the cliff to preserve the essence of its existence that has been severely destroyed by the obsession for details.

  • Can you hear yourself? Computers are the pinnacle of modern science & technology, yet here you are using one to state that theyre responsible for the growth of evil. I knew you were a ignorant hypocrite but this is just ridiculous!

    Science and technology is responsible for every single facet of our modern society which you take for granted each & every day, it's what brought our race out of the darkness and it's the only means we have to one day ensure the indefinite survival of the species.

  • On the path of accepting the signs of God and keeping them in constant remembrance instead of rejecting or forgetting them I was rewarded with more and more signs like in "the Celestine Prophecy". This led me to discover how science is continually verifying things in the holy scriptures that some skeptics believe is not possible.

  • Also, be sure to take into consideration the scientific processes and discoveries that are constantly proving your holy scriptures wrong; need I supply examples? It's very strange that god created the evolution don't you think? The entire foundation that your particular religion sits upon is creationism does it not? Tell me, when exactly did science verify that 6000 year old Dinosaurs were saved from a global flood by being pushed onto a on a giant wooden arc? Talking snakes? Very entertaining!

  • So I have actually witnessed and experienced the signs of God after becoming an atheist. So I know for a fact that God and his angels exist and that Satan and his demonic spirits are very real. We all witness and experience signs of God in our life in one way or another, but many of us reject them or forget them, which leads us to fall into the trap of atheism. Thus it is understandable why those who reject the signs of God will be punished severely.

  • "So I know for a fact that God and his angels exist" - So then you don't actually believe, no belief nor faith is required if it's a fact. Please, provide that evidence so I too can be saved. Oh, let me guess. The evidence exists only in your mind right? Very convenient! ;) Tell me...

    What exactly were these "signs"?

    Which God in particular, is a fact?

    What's exactly is my punishment?

    How did you first become an Atheist?

    I guarantee that none of your

    answers are going to match up.

  • Nasher, I am going to stop arguing with you now. I see you are trapped in the circle of the close-mindedness that all atheists as well as all religious fanatics (extremists) have in common. The key to break from the cycle is to just humbly seek the truth, even if it goes against all that you have ever believed in, even if it goes against the ideology of your peer group. Truly thinking independently is the path to enlightenment, especially going out alone into nature to seek the signs of God.

  • Independent enquiry isnt compatible with religion, not now nor has it ever been. A religion is defined & differentiated from others by its belief system, rules, doctrine & that which it expects from its adherents. Those rules & boundaries exist because they are the means by which the specific faith declares it's purpose. For an adherent to think independently would negate their religion, rendering It either irrelevant or meaningless. Be you a fundamentalist or a hypocrite? It's one or the other

  • "humbly seek the truth, even if it goes against all that you have ever believed in, even if it goes against the ideology of your peer group"

    We do. That is the scientific method. Go where the evidence leads, no matter how inconvenient.

    A bit of a far cry from Christianity, wouldn't you say?

  • Nasher, after researching about James Randi, I understand even more clearer how atheists delude themselves by trying so hard to stay away from anything that would conflict with their conviction. It is for this reason that no one can show atheists the light until atheists help themselves first by at least having faith. Whereas those who believe in God are not afraid of researching all things, atheists are afraid of researching the holy scriptures, for the key to all wisdom is "hidden" in them.

  • Faith mean "belief in that which has no evidence". Why is faith good? I see it as a mark of stupidity.

  • You're a very backwards individual User. The attacks you make against Atheism are complete role reversals. Very funny!

    "atheists delude themselves by trying so hard to stay away from anything that would conflict with their conviction. Those who believe in God are not afraid of researching all things, atheists are afraid of researching the holy scriptures"

    You didn't answer my question. What do you think would happen to modern society if everyone was religious....?

  • "You typed "You didn't answer my question. What do you think would happen to modern society if everyone was religious....?"

    It would not suffice to give a concise answer to this question, for then you would ask many questions to clarify the concise answer, this would waste so much time and space. Can I respond to your questions through personal message? By the way I used to be an atheist too and a miltant one I used to try to persuade strangers in public, but then I received the signs of God...

  • Youre not able to give me a concise answer to my very simple question because it would take up too much "time & space", yet youve just posted four very detailed comments concerning the other few words that ive spoken... strange! Please stop cowering & answer the damn question. I suspect that youre aware that the only way for you to do so would be to contradict yourself. You would think that during your time as a militant Atheist you would have learned the importance of not trapping yourself.

  • "We can not live with integrity without faith"

    Correction, you cannot live with integrity without faith. Yet myself & those like me have no need for any merit of faith in a fictional character as to make well informed, logical & moral choices in day to day life. The fact that you do expresses not only your ignorance, but your inability to think independently & make decisions without the constant scare tactics & threats posed by your religious beliefs. I doubt you were ever an Atheist....

  • "I have the answers to every single question"

    Strange, you've yet to answer even one that Ive asked, but you've done a very good job of avoiding them. Youre full of shit, not answers pal.

  • you're impossible. empiricism and religion is something you can never combine nor connect. God is a figment of a person's imagination set to be used as his coping mechanism to life's hardships.

  • i believe in God and he isn't a coping mechanism for me. nor is he for my religious friends. i can see how religion can be for some. but don't judge every religious person that way, cause its simply not true. i believe God is the creator of the universe, and if anything more, it is up for debate.

    so don't just label people who believe in God, just as weak people who need a coping mechanism.

  • User100606, you are a waste of space

  • orleyorg, that was epic. Insurgent swordfish!

  • nasher, Social Darwinism is a major part of the atheist worldview, though it might not fit with the ideology of a few individual atheists. Some people earnestly seek the truth and are patient and open minded, while others maintain strong convictions and thus are blind to truths and facts that are not compatible with their convictions. Atheism is seriously retarded due to the fact that spiritual phenomena does exist and is unexplainable by natural science. Research about occult science. Peace.

  • Not a single atheist I have ever met has been for Social Darwinism. There was never any atheist ideology except that of the individuals. The belief that there probably isn't a God is the only thing implied by atheism. Nothing else.

    If you have any scrap of evidence for the supernatural, take it up with James Randi. He has a $1million prize for anyone who can prove the existence of anything supernatural. So far, not a single person has managed to win it.

  • Keep up the good work champ ;)

  • Thankyou very much :)

  • What exactly are you trying to accomplish by speaking negatively of Atheism User100606? What do you think would happen to modern society if non-theism didn't exist & religion was subsequently left to consume our species? Without those whom have the ability to think independently wed be spiraling out of control much like we had been for thousands of years before reason, logic & science pulled us from the darkness. Religion is the way backwards, the way forwards obtained only in its absence.

  • How can one argue with you when you have such an arrogant user name, you chose a phrase instead of a user name. You said "without those whom have the ability to think independently we'd be spiraling out of control much like we had been for thousands of years before reason, logic & science pulled us from the darkness." This is the belief statement of the Illuminati, the one eyed anti-Christ, the Beast. Open your mind to reality, the ability to think independently has always existed.

  • You say that to think that logic and science are good is a mark of the "anti-Christ". The anti-Christ does not exist. However, if the anti-Christ thinks that logic and science are good, then he doesn't sound like that bad a person to me.

    The ability to think independently may have always existed, but those who actually do are a relatively few and far between.

  • Nasher, you and other atheists are like little children that just want attention by trying to act as if you are not able to comprehend the higher plane of spiritual consciousness. Truly you are just destroying yourself and limiting yourself. You try to be deliberately provocative by twisting around statements to cause more and more lengthening of petty arguments over misinterpretation of details rather than focusing on substance. Focusing on details gets one into confusion, focus on the essence.

  • We pretend not to comprehend the higher plane of spiritual consciousness? We contend that there is no evidence for a higher plane and therefore no need to believe it is there. If there is no evidence, it means there is no interaction between it and the real world, and therefore is worthless anyway.

  • Do you know what my name means? An Epoch is a noteworthy period of time. Reason; an underlying fact or cause that provides logical sense for a premise or occurrence. The day that religion dies is the moment that the Epoch of Reason begins. For many such as myself; it already has. Yet we're still waiting for the absent minded such as yourself to catch up. I find it somewhat ironic and comedic that you, a theist whom believes in fairy tales would tell me to open my mind to reality. Grow up kid ;)

  • Also committing suicide to prevent the enemy from capturing one is a rule of the neo-Nazi atheist ideology. This explains why Hitler as well as the Columbine high school shooters ended their lives in the way they did after killing many innocent people for the sake of the atheist world view. The Columbine high school shooters had a diary with plans of flying commercial airliners into New York City buildings, this is also mentioned in the neo-Nazi book titled "The Turner Diaries".

  • There is no "Neo-Nazi atheist ideology". You forget that you are trying to tell me what I believe, when I know full well that you are talking rubbish.

    The Columbine Massacre was done in the name of the disgusting, reprehensible, eugenically-inspired idea of Social Darwinism. Not atheism.

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