We Americans are idiots. I base that comment on the fact the Senator Gravel and Kucinich were not even given a 2nd look at for the presidency. Four years later how many of you sheep can say that Obama or even Clinton was a good choice? God damnit we are fucked. Grow the fuck up and start looking at candidates on your own and turn CNN, FOX, NBC the fuck off!!
the deficit and debt are not caused by social spending. the US spends about 7% of their GDP on social spending, Canada spends 8%, Australia spends 8%. both countries have a much better fiscal situation then the America, AND they have universal AKA socialized healthcare. The first two things that should be done are cut defense/war spending and raise corporate taxes and taxes on the rich.
OMG I never seen this before, how come the mainstream does not show more of this man. I hope he run for 2012, I would vote for him and I'll do a video on youtube doing the Gravel Pit song by Wu Tang Clan
Anyone that speaks like a normal common sense person is laughed at in the mainstream. This is why people hate congress (11% approval rating) and why things are going to get a worse before they get better.
The issues are rarely as simple as they seem on the surface of things. If you want to truly understand what military industrial complex means for instance you have to go beyond Eisenhower and not get stuck in time warping. Truth is straight and it may not have been diplomatic for him to say drop dead to Bush2 here but he was being true to his knowledge and perception. About fixing govt well that is further and mote complicated. It's like any other corporate bureaucracy. Idiot-pathic.
I can get that. Conspiracy theorist drive me nuts too.
In this case, its largely an obvious reference tho- the highest corp and highest gov are symbiotically intertwined. I mean srsly, going from secretary an cabinet offices to CEO positions back an forth repeatedly? Its not a conspiracy, its obvious an in plain sight.
@thx291 Listen to what you wrote, moron. He warned us and now it is. Foilhat, no they actually read and research while you just watch the boobtube and believe what you are told, idiot. Sheeple.
@junglemike72 - Oh wow another crazed and angry Mike Gravel supporter. Yes, yes the rest of the world is just so brainwashed and you (and your foilhat CT web blogs) are just sooo brilliant.
"Sheeple" another word commonly used by the foilhat brigade...LOL.
@thx291 Answer the question, are just like the rest of you uninformed morons call names and avoid question because you have no clue. Tin foil, you wear a Dunce hat. Answer the question Stephen Hawkins!
@junglemike72 - Um...the people who run the federal reserve are appointed by the president. Is that what you wanted to know?? I really don't understand your question. But I'm glad to see that like all foilhats you're extremely angry, incoherent yet you've somehow convinced yourself that you're soo brilliant and informed...LOL!
@thx291 Um, that tells me you have know idea. And I will ask you again, is the Federal Reserve a Federal organization? And I am well informed and well researched. Your the one that cannot answer a simple question, all you had to do is scroll down and read the question. Now answer the question.
@junglemike72 - According to the US government's official web portal the Federal Reserve is a federal agency. Hence the reason it's governors are appointed by the president. But I never even brought up the Federal Reserve so I have no idea what point you're trying to make and what you're incoherently blathering about...you informed omniscient stud you.
@thx291 WRONG! It is a private central bank goof! And you had to look it up! Our Government cannot even audit it! Who were the authors of the Federal Reserve Act? Look it up! Go watch American Idol goofball.
@junglemike72 - I didn't have to look it up I just wanted to provide a valid source to refute your stupidity. Sorry, but I'll believe the official US government portal who list's the federal reserve as a federal agency as opposed to some foilhat.
Yes yes, we're all just watching "American Idol" and "Dancing with the Stars" while you and you're fellow screwballs are sooo informed about the government conspiracies that threaten our liberties. Have you thought about group therapy?
@thx291 28 U.S.C. Sect. 2671. The liability of the United States for the negligence of a Federal Reserve Bank employee depends, therefore, on whether the Bank is a federal agency under Sect. 2671. Come on Simple Simon, where is you knowledge!
@junglemike72 - I don't know any PRIVATE owned entities that have their board of governors appointed by the President of the United States. You're doing what all nutjobs do, you're taking something out of context in order to prop up your paranoid rants.
But again I have no idea what you're even blathering about because again I never even mentioned the federal reserve?? How's the new straitjacket; chafing much?
@thx291 I am a truther not a Fairytale believing idiot like you. And a combat veteran you simpleminded fool! Look what is on your channel, fag. You know more about dumb shit than the Constitution, go read it and the Patriot Act while you at it moron. Say what you will, you just been proven to be a dumbass.
@junglemike72 - Being an alleged combat veteran doesn't make you any less of a foilhat anymore than it made John McCain right on every issue. You're a paranoid nut (and an extremely angry nut at that), and like all crazy people you have somehow convinced yourself that you have a special insight into the "truth." Enjoy living in that fantasyland, I'm done humoring your psychosis.
@junglemike72 - awww, good luck with your continued delusion that you hover over the brainwashed masses and that the rest of us are too dumbdowned by the media and pop culture to understand the ominous government conspiracies that threaten our liberties. It must be quite the self esteem boost for you to have this schtick.
Unfortunately major media outlets and the DNC didn't like him so he did not get much media coverage and was forced to drop out of the debates rather early. Not enough democrats knew about him to vote for him. This happens all the time. In Russia, Putin's allies controlled many media outlets. He was never criticized, and his handpicked successor was given more air time than his opponents. Not surprisingly Medvedev won the election.
oh my god he is speaking the truth somebody stop him the American people cant handle that yet they still think that they are the greatest in the world
saying we are the greatest in the world sure is arguable..what makes greatness?..wealth, happiness, contentment?..because we sure aren't at the top of the list in the happiness and contentment department..
At least Mike got a chance to make Barack look like the jack ass he. Watch the debates, Gravel and Ron Paul spoke with substance, the rest of the candidates were spouting silly dribble.
LOl I think they would agree on a lot but onces ron paul metters "Naional health care is big wasstefull spending" Mike won't let him speak after that lol!
Gravel and Kucinich were the best debaters/speakers on the Democratic side, and yet, Democratic party members chose Obama for some reason. Do the debates even matter at all? What's the point of having the forums for the presidential candidates if the best debaters are not chosen by their own party's members?
Obama was NOT the best speaker/debater at the Democratic party's forums/debates. Why the hell did he then win the nomination ??????????????
the problem is, is that they don't re-air, or continuously play over and over mike gravels responses, or dennis, or rons..the media beats the other candidates names into everyones brains..that's where the problem lies..unbalanced publicity
I am surprised they have not killed him like so many before him. The Zionists believe they are part of a G-dgiven law to kill whoever goes against their superbly crafted ruse of a "democracy" as we so erroneously call ourselves as well. The point is they use an individuated myth of total self-rule which is what democracy is, and they leave out the term Republic which Israel and the U.S. both piss on. A Republic is limited government checked and reined in from fascism. Fascism is what we are.
they have no need to kill him. that's why they have the media. why kill the man, when u can use the media to kill his name?..the only time they'd have to kill him, is if he started to have any relevant influence in this country..right now, he is of no threat to them, and probly never will be..right now all gravel, and kucinich and paul can do is talk..and the elite in our government know this..it's a damn shame this mans words cannot be turned into action.
I wonder if Barak Obama is a Bohemian Grover, yet. I wonder if our brave White pedophile, pervert, leaders in drag will Obama in and rewrite their bylaws. I sense Obama is not secretly queer like the brave Pale Face Brigade before him.
That's because Obama is the primeass selectee. No offense. However, Obama is a Black guy, so the politically correct avenue is covered. :) Yet, the dumbass Obama is just smart enough to pull off a cunning speech, but stupid enough to be insulated from the reasoning of a Mike Gavel. Obama is sell out, and I daresay who see who runs this country behind his back, and he full well knows it. They are: His wife and the Military Industrial Complex bitches (male types) in the Pentagon, Inc.
I like this guy a lot, even though I think he's a little weak on economics. Gravel was a very refreshing presence in the Democratic debates. He was the only one pointing out that the emperor had no clothes. For that, he has my deepest respect.
The best thing about Mike Gravel is that he can critique America's actions with conviction, he doesn't buy into the horrific danger of jingoism. I consider Jingoism, along with the misrepresentation of religion in some cases, to be the root of all evil. Closely followed by the "need" of more and more money
America's just not ready for a guy like Gravel. Maybe in 10, 20 years, they will. But Democrats still are the party of pansies in the modern era. Where are the modern-day JFKs and FDRs and Wilsons?? Now we get Carters and LBJs. Both of them were terrible presidents. LBJ got us into Vietnam, and that alone disqualifies him, and Carter was poor on security, let the Islamic Revolution happen (making Iran much worse off), and didn't get much change done.
Just watch Carter in the '80 debates with Reagan. Notice how not once does he get real mad or raise his voice. He just stands almost still and talks like some kind of drone, with little emotion or passion to back up his plans. A president should have motivation and passion and believe in what he's doing and be able to defend it! That's why the McCain popularity in this election baffles me. The guy's a 70-year-old boring geezer who talks and talks about cutting spending but spends anyway!
I agree that the candidates of today suck and Gravel is a refreshing change but JFK was a failure...(i.e. Bay of Pigs) and LBJ was responsible for getting all of JFK's ideas into circulation. Furthermore Wilson is responsible for America's current imperial idealogy(i.e. 14 points). And i guess if you like monarchies then Roosevelt was great too. Know your history...things are no different now then than the history of politics and politicians is one of hyopocrites.
Wow, this guy really doesn't know what he's talking about on some of these issues. I guess that's why the majority of Democrats don't want him. It begs the question, why is he still running?
He knows way more than Hilary and Obama, I'll tell you that. Besides, he's actually a Democrat on foreign policy. Look at Hilary's absurd rhetoric! She keeps trying to look "tough" and hawkish. She actually said the exact same thing Bush said about terrorism, at least once, during a debate. She probably wants to secretly attack Iran. "All options are on the table." What about that dumbass "3 am" ad? As if she has so much more security experience. PFFT.
Well, as much as I don't agree with Hillary, she is right, all options should be on the table. It doesn't mean she'll use them but you have to keep your mind open to anything.
Now, I have to disagree with you about Gravel's foreign policy. From what I read, including his Web site, he doesn't have any experience or held a position that deal with foreign policy.
Democrats don't want him b/c he's a true Democrat. They want a softie like Hilary, Obama and Bill Clinton. Remember Clinton? How many Republican proposals did he pass?? NAFTA, welfare "reform," DOMA, just to name a few. Democrats in America today are weak and soft, unlike the Democrats of yesteryear who actually had backbone. mike Gravel is the exception to the rule, and modern Dems can't handle that. They wanna take the easy way out through Obama or Hilary. The 2 worst get all the airtime
While, a lot of the things Gravel said doesn't such he has the backbone of the "Old Democrat." He didn't like the Missile Shield Defense system, saying "Who's going to attack us? Who are we afraid of?" Well, 9/11 should be a great reminder to us all that there are people out there who want to see America's destruction.
But you are right, today's Democrats are soft on a lot of issues. But sadly, we won't see the likes of FDR or Truman any time soon.
What, you mean the other terrorists we have either killed or arrested don't count? The terror attacks we stopped and saved countless lives don't count?
There are people out there who want to destroy America and for the life of me, I don't understand why people aren't taking this threat so seriously.
Because other than Russia or China(with a large nuclear strike) - NO state, country, or terrorist cell could harm this large, powerful, and geographically isolated nation.
Our overreaction to small criminal events(9/11) is what is going to destroy this nation - BOTH Financially(with debt) and Socially(with loss of individual liberties and freedoms).
Really? How about North Korea? Iran? Syria? And today Russia maybe our allies but who knows what tomorrow will bring?
Small criminal events? Nearly 3,000 Americans died and many more have been saved because Bush decided to fight back against terrorism. How about terrorists who were planning on blowing up the Sears Tower? Because we've fought back, it's still standing & people are alive.
Calling terrorism "small criminal events" is a deadly way of thinking.
N. Korea? - weak isolationist dictatorship - They don't scare me
Iran? - Historically ancient nation - Unagressive in their region for over 150 years - thier main resource(oil) has been stolen by other nations since 1906 - Their political leadership has been disrupted by foriegn nations since WW2 - They don't scare me
Russia/China - Have a large nuclear arsenal that could pose a serious threat to the overall well being of the US
Bush's War in Iraq = 5000+ American Soldiers Dead - 50,000+ wounded - Trillion+ Dollars - 100,000+ Iraqi civilians killed - and we pre-emptively attacked a soveriegn nation that was ZERO threat to us.
Timesobserver:
I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOURE SCARED OF!!
b/c I'm scared of ignorant warmongers like you that willing to destroy all of what America stands for to play world police
Actually, I understand a lot better than you think. And if you read my column, you will see I'm not a warmonger. Saddam was a threat because they supported terrorism but I wrote that I didn't think we should have used our military so soon.
No one thought al-Qaeda was a threat until 9/11, so I'm not going to write off Russia, China, Iran or Syria.
You say, "Saddam was a threat because they supported terrorism" although YOUR definition of support is pretty weak. By your definition; the US has supported terrorism for at least 50 years!
"No one thought al-Qaeda was a threat until 9/11" - this statement is an HUGE LIE
Please do some research into the history(pre-9/11) of these "so-called" terrorist threats!
OK, I meant the general public didn't think al-Qaeda was a threat.
And I don't know what you mean. If you read the report, it stated that Saddam did support, funded and helped terrorists groups. So I'm not sure where you think that's pretty weak.
But thank you for stopping by my blog and come again.
Do YOU believe that it's OK for the US to support terrorist groups?
(to me, "terrorist groups" always seem like a weak arguement b/c "one nation's terrorist is another nation's freedom fighter" - it's all about perspective)
How about the US overthrowing leaders of soveriegn countries?
How about US leaders not following the Constitution or their Oath of Office?
Please watch this and let me know what you think! It's Informative and easy to follow!
I don't think the U.S. should support terrorist groups, or overthrow leaders of other countries. However, it has been done in the past because the "enemy of my enemy is my friend." It's not always the best policy but sometimes it's the only one.
Now, I found the Pinky Show interesting but the U.N. has meet and discussed if the war was illegal. End of Part 1
However, the U.N. didn't enforce their own resolutions against Saddam. If they did, we would have known if Saddam had those weapons or was supporting terrorists.
Now, you can say, one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter but as far as I'm concern, anyone who attacks or plans attacks on Americans is not only a terrorist but an enemy, who should be arrested and/or killed.
To me, America is being effectively attacked from within by a handful of Bankers that are using inept politicians that seem to pander to money, power, or religion(or a combination there of) instead of to the Constitution. They're destroying the working class through inflation, they're instigating offensive preemtive wars to drive up debt(increasing the interest money), and they're doing their best to erode "the document" that best protects me from a tyrannical Gov't.
LOL Now I know I'm watching an unusual politician when he said he would tell the president to drop dead if he could have 2 minutes to speak with him. No bullshit from him!
We NEED Gravel!!! [SORRY, THE ONLY good thing about Ron Paul, is that HE TOO, believes the IRS ISN'T "FEDERAL", & should be DISMANTLED...Paul ALSO believes in UNADULTERATED CAPITALISM, which does NOT WORK!!!!! Ie. he WOULDN'T PUNISH companies/corporations (INCLUDING DRUG COMPANIES) for marketing their products(s) FALSELY, regarding SAFETY & EFFECTIVENESS!!! He ALSO has NO REAL healthcare plan that would benefit the middleclass (NOR the poor)!!! This guy was a DR.?!]
im a ron paul voter....... but gravel is amazing! he is the champion of the poeple and paul is the champion of the constitution. they are both in the intrest of us.
i don't think this guy can win because he doesn't get enough coverage.... y'know because he wouldn't be the first female/black president! I mean it would be great to have that triumph over racism/sexism, but don't go through with if you don't agree with thier policies then DON'T VOTE FOR THEM. If I were an american citizen I might be voting for this guy. Stupid american media... god damn... NA is too comfortable with bullshit.
but their solutions differ. ron paul doesnt wants the federal gov involved with anything. well, you solve health care like that, you can't fix our energy crisis like that. ron paul doesnt even begin to compare to mike gravel.
well see Ron Paul would bring our troops home,that would instantly open up mothballed bases and boost economy ..also it would bring familys back together ..less divorce,power...with the billions of aid we send overseas we could build green energy sources with ease
That was GREAT....."If you had 2 minutes to talk to the President, what would you say?"......"Drop Dead"....silence....nothing more to be said...Perfect!
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If you're grateful that those dear to you have live without fear of being drafted into unjust wars, thank Mike Gravel. His courage helped end the draft during Vietnam, and he will end the war in Iraq.
We don't need ANYTHING resembling a consolidation of power to a central nanny state, the only thing that makes us free human beings is the ability to make our own decisions and be self-reliant enough to accept the consequences of those decisions and to be given the leeway to fend for ourselves and compete in a FREE market outside the bureaucracy of governments.
Do you people just not understand that Communism and Socialism have been responsible for hundreds of MILLIONS of deaths in the 20th Century? Did you not know that the whole IDEA of communism was researched and FUNDED by capitalists?
Ron Paul and Mike Gavel exist only to fool people into believing there is still hope in the old two parties. We need a real socialist movement in this countery!
You're a moron. Socialism is a bullshit cause. Socialism is the ABSENCE of Freedom. If you want a totalitarian dictatorship, just consolidate power into a few hands like in socialism and see what you get, Sherlock. What we need is real constitutional government for a change.
huh? That's rediculus, dude, Mike Gravel IS hope. He's not pushing the Democratic agenda, he's just using the party as a means of campaigning, because he knows he's got less than 0% chance of winning as an independant.
We Americans are idiots. I base that comment on the fact the Senator Gravel and Kucinich were not even given a 2nd look at for the presidency. Four years later how many of you sheep can say that Obama or even Clinton was a good choice? God damnit we are fucked. Grow the fuck up and start looking at candidates on your own and turn CNN, FOX, NBC the fuck off!!
nuggz503 4 months ago
the deficit and debt are not caused by social spending. the US spends about 7% of their GDP on social spending, Canada spends 8%, Australia spends 8%. both countries have a much better fiscal situation then the America, AND they have universal AKA socialized healthcare. The first two things that should be done are cut defense/war spending and raise corporate taxes and taxes on the rich.
RedUnbannable 6 months ago
WTF mike and or Dennis Werent elected?
Why why why.
shaokahn23 6 months ago
Finally someone speaks a tad of the truth
kittell123 6 months ago
LOL junglemike72 sounds like a libtard who ignores everything except what his masters tell him. What a complete utter FOOL
Frozin1234 7 months ago
There ARE some good politicians out there. Why can't we as a country wake up and recognize it. We are screwed if we don't heed this guys warnings.
acousticcarnival 11 months ago
great man.
POKETPAIR 11 months ago
This man needs to run again
larlar210 1 year ago
OMG I never seen this before, how come the mainstream does not show more of this man. I hope he run for 2012, I would vote for him and I'll do a video on youtube doing the Gravel Pit song by Wu Tang Clan
oneeyedboxer 1 year ago
ron paul on steroids
AnarchyRules17 1 year ago
Anyone that speaks like a normal common sense person is laughed at in the mainstream. This is why people hate congress (11% approval rating) and why things are going to get a worse before they get better.
masterpangloss 1 year ago
Finally an American politician that speaks real sense.
TVfreakje1 1 year ago 3
amen sir!
Jsworld1980 1 year ago
Ron Paul and Mike Gravel!! Only ones to talk about real issues
RageAgainstNWO 1 year ago 2
The issues are rarely as simple as they seem on the surface of things. If you want to truly understand what military industrial complex means for instance you have to go beyond Eisenhower and not get stuck in time warping. Truth is straight and it may not have been diplomatic for him to say drop dead to Bush2 here but he was being true to his knowledge and perception. About fixing govt well that is further and mote complicated. It's like any other corporate bureaucracy. Idiot-pathic.
SuddenSparkles 1 year ago
How did grassroots fail this man? where the fuck were we america?
2012 is gonna be our generations choice (provided we get there), lets for once, do the right thing, the real thing.
scarletletterman84 2 years ago 4
I love this guy. <3
Haruka19 2 years ago 4
American people dont seem to want to hear the truth,they prefer to be lied to, and its plain sad,Mike Gravel is a great American
x4167 2 years ago 4
Man, I totally would have voted for this guy too. He doesn't lie! :D
XxFrightfulxX 2 years ago 2
this guy speak true
vlibert 2 years ago
Whenever someone says "military industrial complex" I tend to tune them out.
thx291 2 years ago
why?
scarletletterman84 2 years ago
Because usually when someone quotes Eisenhower's "military industrial complex" phrase it's in furtherance of pushing some foilhat conspiracy theory.
thx291 2 years ago
@thx291
I can get that. Conspiracy theorist drive me nuts too.
In this case, its largely an obvious reference tho- the highest corp and highest gov are symbiotically intertwined. I mean srsly, going from secretary an cabinet offices to CEO positions back an forth repeatedly? Its not a conspiracy, its obvious an in plain sight.
scarletletterman84 2 years ago 4
@thx291 Listen to what you wrote, moron. He warned us and now it is. Foilhat, no they actually read and research while you just watch the boobtube and believe what you are told, idiot. Sheeple.
junglemike72 1 year ago
@junglemike72 - Oh wow another crazed and angry Mike Gravel supporter. Yes, yes the rest of the world is just so brainwashed and you (and your foilhat CT web blogs) are just sooo brilliant.
"Sheeple" another word commonly used by the foilhat brigade...LOL.
thx291 1 year ago
@thx291 O.K jackass is the Federal Reserve Federal? Answer the question Slingblade.
junglemike72 1 year ago
@junglemike72 - Awww, he's all angry now...lol. I never even mentioned the federal reserve?? I guess they're low on medication in the asylum.
thx291 1 year ago
@thx291 Answer the question, are just like the rest of you uninformed morons call names and avoid question because you have no clue. Tin foil, you wear a Dunce hat. Answer the question Stephen Hawkins!
junglemike72 1 year ago
@junglemike72 - Um...the people who run the federal reserve are appointed by the president. Is that what you wanted to know?? I really don't understand your question. But I'm glad to see that like all foilhats you're extremely angry, incoherent yet you've somehow convinced yourself that you're soo brilliant and informed...LOL!
thx291 1 year ago
@thx291 Um, that tells me you have know idea. And I will ask you again, is the Federal Reserve a Federal organization? And I am well informed and well researched. Your the one that cannot answer a simple question, all you had to do is scroll down and read the question. Now answer the question.
junglemike72 1 year ago
@junglemike72 - According to the US government's official web portal the Federal Reserve is a federal agency. Hence the reason it's governors are appointed by the president. But I never even brought up the Federal Reserve so I have no idea what point you're trying to make and what you're incoherently blathering about...you informed omniscient stud you.
thx291 1 year ago
@thx291 WRONG! It is a private central bank goof! And you had to look it up! Our Government cannot even audit it! Who were the authors of the Federal Reserve Act? Look it up! Go watch American Idol goofball.
junglemike72 1 year ago
@junglemike72 - I didn't have to look it up I just wanted to provide a valid source to refute your stupidity. Sorry, but I'll believe the official US government portal who list's the federal reserve as a federal agency as opposed to some foilhat.
Yes yes, we're all just watching "American Idol" and "Dancing with the Stars" while you and you're fellow screwballs are sooo informed about the government conspiracies that threaten our liberties. Have you thought about group therapy?
thx291 1 year ago
@thx291 Lewis v. United States, 680 F.2d 1239 (1982)John L. Lewis, Plaintiff/Appellant,v.United States of America, Defendant/Appellee.
No. 80-5905 United States Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit.Submitted March 2, 1982.
Decided April 19, 1982.As Amended June 24, 1982. Court ruled Federal Reserve is a Private owned Entity. Want more, you easily lead idiot.
junglemike72 1 year ago
@thx291 28 U.S.C. Sect. 2671. The liability of the United States for the negligence of a Federal Reserve Bank employee depends, therefore, on whether the Bank is a federal agency under Sect. 2671. Come on Simple Simon, where is you knowledge!
junglemike72 1 year ago
@junglemike72 - I don't know any PRIVATE owned entities that have their board of governors appointed by the President of the United States. You're doing what all nutjobs do, you're taking something out of context in order to prop up your paranoid rants.
But again I have no idea what you're even blathering about because again I never even mentioned the federal reserve?? How's the new straitjacket; chafing much?
thx291 1 year ago
@junglemike72 - I see from your channel that you're also a 9/11 "truther" wackjob as well. That explains a lot. Get some help/meds.
thx291 1 year ago
@thx291 I am a truther not a Fairytale believing idiot like you. And a combat veteran you simpleminded fool! Look what is on your channel, fag. You know more about dumb shit than the Constitution, go read it and the Patriot Act while you at it moron. Say what you will, you just been proven to be a dumbass.
junglemike72 1 year ago
@junglemike72 - Being an alleged combat veteran doesn't make you any less of a foilhat anymore than it made John McCain right on every issue. You're a paranoid nut (and an extremely angry nut at that), and like all crazy people you have somehow convinced yourself that you have a special insight into the "truth." Enjoy living in that fantasyland, I'm done humoring your psychosis.
thx291 1 year ago
@thx291 Your done being shown up jackass.
junglemike72 1 year ago
@junglemike72 - awww, good luck with your continued delusion that you hover over the brainwashed masses and that the rest of us are too dumbdowned by the media and pop culture to understand the ominous government conspiracies that threaten our liberties. It must be quite the self esteem boost for you to have this schtick.
thx291 1 year ago
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@thx291 You are a dumbass.
Youtubbemain 4 months ago
Why? The relationship between the government, the military and the arms industry is of critical importance don't you think?
BloggerMusicMan 1 year ago
I supported him in the primaries.
ChaoticSouls 2 years ago
Holy shit America, why didn't you vote for this man? The rest of the world would love you. For once.
jamtlanning 2 years ago 5
Unfortunately major media outlets and the DNC didn't like him so he did not get much media coverage and was forced to drop out of the debates rather early. Not enough democrats knew about him to vote for him. This happens all the time. In Russia, Putin's allies controlled many media outlets. He was never criticized, and his handpicked successor was given more air time than his opponents. Not surprisingly Medvedev won the election.
NoEoAoRo 2 years ago
does that mean you're being sarcastic about your overt sarcasm? because i don't think everyone needs crack pipes?
you're irresponsible.
boogieshoeses 2 years ago
HIS MOTHER FUCKIN 6 MINS OF SHINE.. >=O Kucinich, Gravel '08
k1zzl3 2 years ago
"if you had 2 minutes with the president what would you say?"
"drop dead."
Gravel rocks.
LethalResistanz 2 years ago 2
drop dead.
classic
curlyfry1106 2 years ago
He speaks the truth...
Valor85 2 years ago
Finally!
Haruka19 2 years ago
oh my god he is speaking the truth somebody stop him the American people cant handle that yet they still think that they are the greatest in the world
gogitasan 2 years ago 8
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We are the greatest in the world and don't fucking forget it. It's just our public servants can't get real jobs, so they go into politics.
urikon 2 years ago
saying we are the greatest in the world sure is arguable..what makes greatness?..wealth, happiness, contentment?..because we sure aren't at the top of the list in the happiness and contentment department..
itzahazylife 2 years ago 2
At least Mike got a chance to make Barack look like the jack ass he. Watch the debates, Gravel and Ron Paul spoke with substance, the rest of the candidates were spouting silly dribble.
UShistoryX2 2 years ago 5
God I wish Gravel stood a chance... fuck the American people suck.
AbstractAsshole 2 years ago 49
Well the American Media and the two parties are more to blame here. He was kicked out of the debates and he recieved hardly any media coverage.
NoEoAoRo 2 years ago 3
yeah that's also true, but really the people need to fucking wise up instead of picking between two puppets as usual
AbstractAsshole 2 years ago
I would follow that man to hell and back.
boxant 2 years ago 10
ron paul president mike gravel vise president what a team!!!
depecheddurand 3 years ago 39
I'd like to see him debating with Ron Paul. It would be awesome :)
danielzopola 3 years ago 10
LOl I think they would agree on a lot but onces ron paul metters "Naional health care is big wasstefull spending" Mike won't let him speak after that lol!
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago 2
I like Mike!
FarahWonderland7 3 years ago 2
Gravel and Kucinich were the best debaters/speakers on the Democratic side, and yet, Democratic party members chose Obama for some reason. Do the debates even matter at all? What's the point of having the forums for the presidential candidates if the best debaters are not chosen by their own party's members?
Obama was NOT the best speaker/debater at the Democratic party's forums/debates. Why the hell did he then win the nomination ??????????????
RonPaul2008dotcomluv 3 years ago 7
the problem is, is that they don't re-air, or continuously play over and over mike gravels responses, or dennis, or rons..the media beats the other candidates names into everyones brains..that's where the problem lies..unbalanced publicity
itzahazylife 3 years ago 2
I am surprised they have not killed him like so many before him. The Zionists believe they are part of a G-dgiven law to kill whoever goes against their superbly crafted ruse of a "democracy" as we so erroneously call ourselves as well. The point is they use an individuated myth of total self-rule which is what democracy is, and they leave out the term Republic which Israel and the U.S. both piss on. A Republic is limited government checked and reined in from fascism. Fascism is what we are.
distressed7 3 years ago
they have no need to kill him. that's why they have the media. why kill the man, when u can use the media to kill his name?..the only time they'd have to kill him, is if he started to have any relevant influence in this country..right now, he is of no threat to them, and probly never will be..right now all gravel, and kucinich and paul can do is talk..and the elite in our government know this..it's a damn shame this mans words cannot be turned into action.
itzahazylife 3 years ago 3
I wonder if Barak Obama is a Bohemian Grover, yet. I wonder if our brave White pedophile, pervert, leaders in drag will Obama in and rewrite their bylaws. I sense Obama is not secretly queer like the brave Pale Face Brigade before him.
distressed7 3 years ago
Vote Nader/Gonzalez!
dstorey36532 3 years ago
I still cannot believe that Democrats chose Obama instead of experienced veteran politician Gravel.
RonPaul2008dotcomluv 3 years ago 2
Have you seen Manufacturing Consent?
AnnRKey 3 years ago
No.
RonPaul2008dotcomluv 3 years ago
How about now? Its on YouTube and Google.
AnnRKey 3 years ago
That's because Obama is the primeass selectee. No offense. However, Obama is a Black guy, so the politically correct avenue is covered. :) Yet, the dumbass Obama is just smart enough to pull off a cunning speech, but stupid enough to be insulated from the reasoning of a Mike Gavel. Obama is sell out, and I daresay who see who runs this country behind his back, and he full well knows it. They are: His wife and the Military Industrial Complex bitches (male types) in the Pentagon, Inc.
distressed7 3 years ago
if you like what gravel wants to do, vote nader.
atleast nader isn't a capitalist
dkroller92 3 years ago
@ 5:02 LOL!
RonPaul2008dotcomluv 3 years ago
I like this guy a lot, even though I think he's a little weak on economics. Gravel was a very refreshing presence in the Democratic debates. He was the only one pointing out that the emperor had no clothes. For that, he has my deepest respect.
CauseAndEffectPost 3 years ago 2
this man deserves the key to hell over anyone else trying to obtain it..thats for sure
DChappelle27 3 years ago
THIS man, is why I hate Ron Paul.
Ron Paul was just a distraction they dangled in front of us. FUCK Alex Jones, and his Digg mafia.
BlackRabbit2264 3 years ago
The best thing about Mike Gravel is that he can critique America's actions with conviction, he doesn't buy into the horrific danger of jingoism. I consider Jingoism, along with the misrepresentation of religion in some cases, to be the root of all evil. Closely followed by the "need" of more and more money
jampt1989 3 years ago 6
I might even consider mike is god
greatest man alive
TheStoicAgnostic 3 years ago 3
OBAMA, CLINTON AND McCAIN ALL TO COWARDLY TO FACE MIKE GRAVEL IN ANY PUBLIC DEBATE FORM.
I CHALLENGE ALL OF THEM TO SHOW THE CHARACTER OF A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FACE MIKE GRAVEL AND LET AMERICA SEE ''A REAL DEBATE ''.
johndownunder 3 years ago 3
Mike's got real solutions the people that aren't giving him the respect the deserves are all cowards.
oldhacks 3 years ago 3
ILL TELL YOU WHAT...
I sure as hell am ready for a man like GRAVEL!
HughieGphiladelphia 3 years ago
ILL TELL YOU WHAT...
I sure as hell am ready for a man like GRAVEL!
HughieGphiladelphia 3 years ago
America's just not ready for a guy like Gravel. Maybe in 10, 20 years, they will. But Democrats still are the party of pansies in the modern era. Where are the modern-day JFKs and FDRs and Wilsons?? Now we get Carters and LBJs. Both of them were terrible presidents. LBJ got us into Vietnam, and that alone disqualifies him, and Carter was poor on security, let the Islamic Revolution happen (making Iran much worse off), and didn't get much change done.
Whoo69 3 years ago
Just watch Carter in the '80 debates with Reagan. Notice how not once does he get real mad or raise his voice. He just stands almost still and talks like some kind of drone, with little emotion or passion to back up his plans. A president should have motivation and passion and believe in what he's doing and be able to defend it! That's why the McCain popularity in this election baffles me. The guy's a 70-year-old boring geezer who talks and talks about cutting spending but spends anyway!
Whoo69 3 years ago
I agree that the candidates of today suck and Gravel is a refreshing change but JFK was a failure...(i.e. Bay of Pigs) and LBJ was responsible for getting all of JFK's ideas into circulation. Furthermore Wilson is responsible for America's current imperial idealogy(i.e. 14 points). And i guess if you like monarchies then Roosevelt was great too. Know your history...things are no different now then than the history of politics and politicians is one of hyopocrites.
masochisto 3 years ago
Wow, this guy really doesn't know what he's talking about on some of these issues. I guess that's why the majority of Democrats don't want him. It begs the question, why is he still running?
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Timesobserver 3 years ago
He knows way more than Hilary and Obama, I'll tell you that. Besides, he's actually a Democrat on foreign policy. Look at Hilary's absurd rhetoric! She keeps trying to look "tough" and hawkish. She actually said the exact same thing Bush said about terrorism, at least once, during a debate. She probably wants to secretly attack Iran. "All options are on the table." What about that dumbass "3 am" ad? As if she has so much more security experience. PFFT.
Whoo69 3 years ago
Well, as much as I don't agree with Hillary, she is right, all options should be on the table. It doesn't mean she'll use them but you have to keep your mind open to anything.
Now, I have to disagree with you about Gravel's foreign policy. From what I read, including his Web site, he doesn't have any experience or held a position that deal with foreign policy.
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Timesobserver 3 years ago
Democrats don't want him b/c he's a true Democrat. They want a softie like Hilary, Obama and Bill Clinton. Remember Clinton? How many Republican proposals did he pass?? NAFTA, welfare "reform," DOMA, just to name a few. Democrats in America today are weak and soft, unlike the Democrats of yesteryear who actually had backbone. mike Gravel is the exception to the rule, and modern Dems can't handle that. They wanna take the easy way out through Obama or Hilary. The 2 worst get all the airtime
Whoo69 3 years ago 2
While, a lot of the things Gravel said doesn't such he has the backbone of the "Old Democrat." He didn't like the Missile Shield Defense system, saying "Who's going to attack us? Who are we afraid of?" Well, 9/11 should be a great reminder to us all that there are people out there who want to see America's destruction.
But you are right, today's Democrats are soft on a lot of issues. But sadly, we won't see the likes of FDR or Truman any time soon.
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Timesobserver 3 years ago
Hmmm, let's see......
19 Guys with boxcutters
VS.
500+ Billion dollar
Missle Defense System
Yup......It reminds me why we are currently 9+ Trillion Dollars in debt - Stupidity and Fear
frzngds 3 years ago
What, you mean the other terrorists we have either killed or arrested don't count? The terror attacks we stopped and saved countless lives don't count?
There are people out there who want to destroy America and for the life of me, I don't understand why people aren't taking this threat so seriously.
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Timesobserver 3 years ago
Because other than Russia or China(with a large nuclear strike) - NO state, country, or terrorist cell could harm this large, powerful, and geographically isolated nation.
Our overreaction to small criminal events(9/11) is what is going to destroy this nation - BOTH Financially(with debt) and Socially(with loss of individual liberties and freedoms).
frzngds 3 years ago
Really? How about North Korea? Iran? Syria? And today Russia maybe our allies but who knows what tomorrow will bring?
Small criminal events? Nearly 3,000 Americans died and many more have been saved because Bush decided to fight back against terrorism. How about terrorists who were planning on blowing up the Sears Tower? Because we've fought back, it's still standing & people are alive.
Calling terrorism "small criminal events" is a deadly way of thinking.
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Timesobserver 3 years ago
N. Korea? - weak isolationist dictatorship - They don't scare me
Iran? - Historically ancient nation - Unagressive in their region for over 150 years - thier main resource(oil) has been stolen by other nations since 1906 - Their political leadership has been disrupted by foriegn nations since WW2 - They don't scare me
Syria? No threat at all
(cont)
frzngds 3 years ago
Russia/China - Have a large nuclear arsenal that could pose a serious threat to the overall well being of the US
Bush's War in Iraq = 5000+ American Soldiers Dead - 50,000+ wounded - Trillion+ Dollars - 100,000+ Iraqi civilians killed - and we pre-emptively attacked a soveriegn nation that was ZERO threat to us.
Timesobserver:
I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOURE SCARED OF!!
b/c I'm scared of ignorant warmongers like you that willing to destroy all of what America stands for to play world police
frzngds 3 years ago 2
Actually, I understand a lot better than you think. And if you read my column, you will see I'm not a warmonger. Saddam was a threat because they supported terrorism but I wrote that I didn't think we should have used our military so soon.
No one thought al-Qaeda was a threat until 9/11, so I'm not going to write off Russia, China, Iran or Syria.
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Timesobserver 3 years ago
I have read your blog -
You say, "Saddam was a threat because they supported terrorism" although YOUR definition of support is pretty weak. By your definition; the US has supported terrorism for at least 50 years!
"No one thought al-Qaeda was a threat until 9/11" - this statement is an HUGE LIE
Please do some research into the history(pre-9/11) of these "so-called" terrorist threats!
frzngds 3 years ago
OK, I meant the general public didn't think al-Qaeda was a threat.
And I don't know what you mean. If you read the report, it stated that Saddam did support, funded and helped terrorists groups. So I'm not sure where you think that's pretty weak.
But thank you for stopping by my blog and come again.
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Timesobserver 3 years ago
Timesobserver:
Do YOU believe that it's OK for the US to support terrorist groups?
(to me, "terrorist groups" always seem like a weak arguement b/c "one nation's terrorist is another nation's freedom fighter" - it's all about perspective)
How about the US overthrowing leaders of soveriegn countries?
How about US leaders not following the Constitution or their Oath of Office?
Please watch this and let me know what you think! It's Informative and easy to follow!
v=1Khut8xbXK8
frzngds 3 years ago
I don't think the U.S. should support terrorist groups, or overthrow leaders of other countries. However, it has been done in the past because the "enemy of my enemy is my friend." It's not always the best policy but sometimes it's the only one.
Now, I found the Pinky Show interesting but the U.N. has meet and discussed if the war was illegal. End of Part 1
Timesobserver 3 years ago
Part 2
However, the U.N. didn't enforce their own resolutions against Saddam. If they did, we would have known if Saddam had those weapons or was supporting terrorists.
Now, you can say, one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter but as far as I'm concern, anyone who attacks or plans attacks on Americans is not only a terrorist but an enemy, who should be arrested and/or killed.
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Timesobserver 3 years ago
"anyone who attacks or plans attacks on Americans is not only a terrorist but an enemy, who should be arrested and/or killed"
What is your definition of "attacks"?
frzngds 3 years ago
To me, America is being effectively attacked from within by a handful of Bankers that are using inept politicians that seem to pander to money, power, or religion(or a combination there of) instead of to the Constitution. They're destroying the working class through inflation, they're instigating offensive preemtive wars to drive up debt(increasing the interest money), and they're doing their best to erode "the document" that best protects me from a tyrannical Gov't.
frzngds 3 years ago 2
To me, the FED is more dangerous to America than any little totalitarian counrty 10,000 miles away.
frzngds 3 years ago 2
That's why we can elect leaders or we can push for better laws or enforce the ones we have to protect the people.
However, if someone were to turn America into Saddam's Iraq, you better believe I'll fight to the death to protect this great country.
Timesobserver 3 years ago
Come on, what type of stupid question is that? What better example of terror attacks can I give than 9/11?
Timesobserver 3 years ago
Mike Gravel is Jesus in disguise! I love this man!
BtroffBlnd 3 years ago
LOL Now I know I'm watching an unusual politician when he said he would tell the president to drop dead if he could have 2 minutes to speak with him. No bullshit from him!
ScaperSteph 3 years ago 4
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igspal 4 years ago
Ps. Oh yeah, Paul has just ONE other thing in common w/Gravel...they BOTH want to bring the troops home!
igspal 4 years ago
We NEED Gravel!!! [SORRY, THE ONLY good thing about Ron Paul, is that HE TOO, believes the IRS ISN'T "FEDERAL", & should be DISMANTLED...Paul ALSO believes in UNADULTERATED CAPITALISM, which does NOT WORK!!!!! Ie. he WOULDN'T PUNISH companies/corporations (INCLUDING DRUG COMPANIES) for marketing their products(s) FALSELY, regarding SAFETY & EFFECTIVENESS!!! He ALSO has NO REAL healthcare plan that would benefit the middleclass (NOR the poor)!!! This guy was a DR.?!]
igspal 4 years ago 2
Let's continue spreading the word. We need this guy as a president.
dimethicone5 4 years ago 5
i should have given money to gravel...we all should have given money to gravel.
Quiteness 4 years ago 2
This man is my hero.
LittleRachael 4 years ago 5
im a ron paul voter....... but gravel is amazing! he is the champion of the poeple and paul is the champion of the constitution. they are both in the intrest of us.
sic840 4 years ago
Gravel Kucinich Paul Nader -
The truth is powerful.
ryanshaunkelly 4 years ago
i don't think this guy can win because he doesn't get enough coverage.... y'know because he wouldn't be the first female/black president! I mean it would be great to have that triumph over racism/sexism, but don't go through with if you don't agree with thier policies then DON'T VOTE FOR THEM. If I were an american citizen I might be voting for this guy. Stupid american media... god damn... NA is too comfortable with bullshit.
bigalisme 4 years ago
"I'm voting Gravel no matter what."
Same here, why would I vote for one of those other plastic candidates! Why are we BRAINWASHED in America?
AhhCulo 4 years ago 5
I'm voting Gravel no matter what.
BlitzerSephiroth 4 years ago 3
Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, and Dennis Kucinich need to work together.
DrWillyWildcat 4 years ago
I have a feeling that Kucinich and Gravel hate each other
Maaguaa 4 years ago
they shouldnt
DrWillyWildcat 4 years ago
Gravel has resentment against Kucinich for not mentioning his name in Kucinich's complaint for being excluded in the debate...
Maaguaa 4 years ago
yeah,this guy is too honest
bryn86 4 years ago
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gravel = ron paul wannabe.
jtotheoe 4 years ago
kiss my ass
esp1metal 4 years ago 7
nah gravel and ron paul are from the same tree.They actually have solutions to our problems ..
YadaYadaguy 4 years ago 2
but their solutions differ. ron paul doesnt wants the federal gov involved with anything. well, you solve health care like that, you can't fix our energy crisis like that. ron paul doesnt even begin to compare to mike gravel.
viper002060 4 years ago
well see Ron Paul would bring our troops home,that would instantly open up mothballed bases and boost economy ..also it would bring familys back together ..less divorce,power...with the billions of aid we send overseas we could build green energy sources with ease
YadaYadaguy 4 years ago
true but the government needs to be able to regulate that, otherwise industries will be able to pollute all they want.
btw, i had a typo in my other response. - .....you don't solve health care.....
viper002060 4 years ago
Someday, someday soon, Mike, I hope your policies can become reality. I really do.
Thank you for getting your voice out here. You're a hero.
trotskysbeard 4 years ago 7
Nice vid.
Gravel for President !!!Peace.
ChannelMikeG 4 years ago 5
He speaks truth and has knowledge,however these are considered offensive currently.Bush was installed in 2001(electronic voting scam). Peace
vetul 4 years ago 4
The ideal ticket, and solution to fix the fascist mess that is the America of the new millennium:
Gravel & Kucinich
AgentCozmo 4 years ago 5
That was GREAT....."If you had 2 minutes to talk to the President, what would you say?"......"Drop Dead"....silence....nothing more to be said...Perfect!
CBrianChapman 4 years ago 4
lol i know that was great
dawg098 4 years ago 2
LOL. "If you had two minutes to talk to the President of the United States what would you say to him?"
Gravel says "drop dead"
Classic
usapresidentialpoll 4 years ago 2
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joecitizan 4 years ago 2
mike gravel is honest. he speaks his mind. I think?
JweezyT7 4 years ago 2
gravel/kucinich '08
hgm005 4 years ago 5
Gravel and Kucinich in 2008!
cowdude 4 years ago 5
Colbert gravel kucinich paul nader perot carter [conyers?rangel?] united for truth elicit fear smear blacklist.
The people know too much,
democracy rising democracy now.
Rage against the machine.
Honesty compassion intelligence guts.
No more extortion blackmail bribery division.
Divided we fall.
ryanshaunkelly 4 years ago 3
I am a Ron Paul supporter but I love Gravel also.
LawrenciumTradera 4 years ago 2
Gravel has nothing to do with Paul
obm1412 4 years ago 6
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ron paul nuff said
JinX 4 years ago
that is the most truthfull sentance about ron paul i've seen.
"Ron Paul nuff said" you wont be able to read or write if ron is elected because he is going to take away education.
nuff said
waveoflight 4 years ago 3
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uterfan 4 years ago
We have to start a major Write in campaign for Mike Gravel! A really organized campaign, advocating writing his name in on the presidential ballot Nov 2008, because he realistically isnt going to win the dem nomination.
iversonall3 4 years ago
Drop dead LMFAO!
FuckDogma 4 years ago 7
Make sure to donate to Mike Gravel's campaign on Tuesday October 30th to protest his exclusion from the Democratic debate and fire up his campaign! Pass the word along to anyone who believes that truly real and honest voices are vital to an open democracy!
If you're grateful that those dear to you have live without fear of being drafted into unjust wars, thank Mike Gravel. His courage helped end the draft during Vietnam, and he will end the war in Iraq.
PeaceCzar 4 years ago 3
Sweet! I have "stopped and think"ed about five times in the last six minutes. I love this guy!
CampHazzard 4 years ago 2
this is a great mike gravel video!
GRAVEL 08!!
johncantees 4 years ago 4
Cheers for Mike
RockSteD99 4 years ago 2
We don't need ANYTHING resembling a consolidation of power to a central nanny state, the only thing that makes us free human beings is the ability to make our own decisions and be self-reliant enough to accept the consequences of those decisions and to be given the leeway to fend for ourselves and compete in a FREE market outside the bureaucracy of governments.
electrictoothsyndrom 4 years ago 2
Do you people just not understand that Communism and Socialism have been responsible for hundreds of MILLIONS of deaths in the 20th Century? Did you not know that the whole IDEA of communism was researched and FUNDED by capitalists?
electrictoothsyndrom 4 years ago
No, because that is bullshit, electrictooth.
Gravel 08! Viva la revolution! Glory to the proletariat!
MrBubbles95 4 years ago
I like Mike!
jonnystranger 4 years ago
YA BASTA!
Decipi91 4 years ago
don't you people get it
fuck Ron Paul
fuck Mike Gavel
Someone needs to run in the Socialist party
and turn this country around
Democrats and Republicans put us where we are
why depend on them to turn us back?
Decipi91 4 years ago
correction "Gravel"
Decipi91 4 years ago
You truly have no idea what you're talking about if you think Gravel is a democrat per usual.
I challenge you to watch the debates, read his plans, and INFORM and EMPOWER yourself.
thawkth 4 years ago 3
well truly you make inferences. I never said Gravel was "per usual."
Also, I've watched every debate.
Read some of his plans.
And visited numerous sites that are pro Gravel and anti Gravel, I try to do it with most of the candidates.
Through my research I came to the conclusion that all this country needs is a little Socialism and a little Communism to make it ALL BETTER =D
Decipi91 4 years ago
Ron Paul and Mike Gavel exist only to fool people into believing there is still hope in the old two parties. We need a real socialist movement in this countery!
RedCeltic 4 years ago
ill drink to that
Decipi91 4 years ago
You're a moron. Socialism is a bullshit cause. Socialism is the ABSENCE of Freedom. If you want a totalitarian dictatorship, just consolidate power into a few hands like in socialism and see what you get, Sherlock. What we need is real constitutional government for a change.
electrictoothsyndrom 4 years ago
huh? That's rediculus, dude, Mike Gravel IS hope. He's not pushing the Democratic agenda, he's just using the party as a means of campaigning, because he knows he's got less than 0% chance of winning as an independant.
JorickHorn 4 years ago 2
My ideal ticket: Ron Paul and Mike Gravel.
DanOliRam 4 years ago