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  • we do pick the wrong things to fight about it.......you are right!!!!

  • I understand your point and I wouldn't get into this debate about being butthurt because my hair wasn't "nappy" enough to be acknowledged at a Natural hair event. I think NikkiDior just wanted even more attention. She got it...so, she won. It burns me that Blacks will never think with a collective consciousness but instead choose to "major in minors".

  • I just wanna say, I absolutely LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE your hair. Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous!!!!!!

  • self extermination.

    folks say it aint that serious, but hate breeds hate and hate is deadly. slavery, beauty, prejudice, hate......all of it is real, all of it affects us, but we dont have to let it infect us

  • @yocampout Agreed!!!!

  • Right on girl. Excellent point. black is black. Light or dark at the end of the day we are all going to be treated the same by the white power structure. When the cops beat the hell out of someone black do you think they give a damn if it someone light or dark? NO! We spend so much time hating the hell out of each other instead of fighting where we should be. I loved your response to this. You proved to me that you have brains behind that nice hair of yours. I'm subcribing. : )

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  • @iwasborntobefly....focus on greater issues. Tell me do you see any of the black professor/scholars arguing in the fashion that took place on my fellow YTbers pages....I think not. Did anyone address how we can change people's perception etc....like I said these types of debate especially on such a forum is futile. Anyhow, have a good night.

  • @iwasborntobefly listen my point is lost on you and that is okay. I never said there should be no conversation but just not in that fashion. There is plenty of other important issues that deserves my time. You mention studies....there are studies on both side but the good hair bad hair debate accomplishes nothing in my opinion (which I am entitled to) I love my thick kinky hair and I'm not envious of the 3abc. By the way there are benefits on both sides of the coin. But like I said I tend to...

  • Amen!!!!...Thank you for taking this debate to whole other level of consciousness!!!..TOO many other things to discuss!!!...u r so right...the mindset can keep you enslaved for ever if you dont have the will to be free!...great video

  • the issue of light and dark skin is real. if you're concerned about uplifting blacks, where are your videos? i don't harbor malice toward you but this video is hypocritical in light of the content of your channel. also in jamaica/haiti the very lightest/ almost white "blacks" are the elites. period. and, many look down on the blacks and actively discriminate against them. addressing how lighter skin privileges someone is not shallow. blacks need to address this.

  • @iwasborntobefly You must be a new subbie or maybe not at all. I've made made videos on the subject matter including colorism in the island (some of which I had to take down because of copyright issues).....the difference is blacks are the minority here. Therefore the plight is significantly different. I implore you to watch all my vids before you call me a hypocrite.....I hold no malice to u as well. But I talk about much more than just hair.

  • @vanie0295 it doesn't matter that that we're the minority. the result, whether i'm in haiti, jamaica or in the u.s. can be the same. there have even been studies that show that a person's dark skin can impact things like how you are perceived in court, etc. this issue, as shallow as it seems to you, can impact employment and even your partner selection. it's as important as the one you raised because it gets to the heart of who black people are.

  • @iwasborntobefly Now having a conversation of the matter of colorism without any results is futile..... Arguing back and forth accomplishes nothing (arguing here is an understatement)

  • @vanie0295 having a conversation about anything without results can be futile. but, i'd rather have the conversation than gloss over the entire issue.

  • @iwasborntobefly Is getting a Ph.D is Math Education good enough to uplift my people. Yeah I don't go promote it a lot in my vids because it's what I do and not who I am......but yes I have worked in an urban school for over ten years trying to uplift my people.....just thought you should know.

  • @vanie0295 i think it's great you're getting a ph.d. in math education. i still think the way you dismissed the issue was wrong. i mean, i don't think a woman who is light with a very lose curl pattern confronts the same issues as someone who is dark with a very tight pattern. for me, this is an important issue.

  • Amen sista!!!! Our people need to stick together rather than bicker and fight against each other over petty things. 

  • AMEN...YOU SAID JUST WHAT I HAVE BEEN THINKING!!!

  • .....Or the teacher who is concerned about a man/woman or what she/he going to do on the weekend. Please don't get me started on the education system in the United States. We need more doctors, lawyers, engineers, and business minded individuals in our community. Push our daughters/sons toward science and technology degrees

  • People don't realize that by blacks fighting amongst themselves, 'they' no longer even have to do anything to pull them down. Why would another race need to make me feel any type of way about my hair when I got black people doing it already? They can just sit back and watch the self-destruction. I agree totally with your point.

  • Thank you for sharing. I love this so much.

  • Very, very well stated #subscribed.

  • YES!!! I AGREE WITH YOU 1000%!!!!!!!

  • You are absolutely right!!! We as black people do need to come together as a whole to fight for what's ours. Especially black women!!!! We need to stop fighting each other and "one upping" each other.

  • @queenblue86 Yes!!! Thanks hun.

  • Many inner city teachers are teaching. Just saying there are ALOT of dynamics that cause schools to fail.

  • @Godwarriorprincess I know I was one of them. But I must tell you that many aren't. We can't afford to have even one.....that's why I went back to school so I can affect the teachers and students alike.

  • I love you:) just thought id mention that!

  • @ReturningToEarth Awww thank you!

  • great vid, great points.

  • I don't know about the reparation but yes, in the black community we need to focus our energy on more important things in the black community. For instance, our youth, their education, their safety, etc. Yes, our mentality is messed up. I am so over it, especially here in America. American blacks need to get it together. They have more going for themselves then anyone else. Your point about the gun is on point.

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  • @cumensu girl we do too need to get reporation....actually we need it from more than one continent :).

  • Love your accent and energy and your hair is lovely.There are so many issues which our community shd give first priority

  • @MultiNaturals Thnaks hun!!!

  • You remind me of Nneka.

  • @cumensu Not sure who that is.

  • @vanie0295, she is a Nigerian/German singer who sings Nu soul songs. She is AmaZing!

  • @cumensu Yes, her mannerisms!

  • @nopeceun, I was thinking how she looks. I don't really know Nneka's mannerisms only her music. :)

  • @cumensu Yeah, they do actually look alike. You should watch Nneka's interviews on youtube.

  • YES!!!! AMEN!!!! U said it, ppl need to tranfer dem energy into bettering our communities and coming together. We have enough division as a people, we dont need anymore. Good video. If more of us speak out, someone will hear and maybe just maybe things will change slowly. We got comfortable and lazy as a people in my opinion. We dont stand up and come together like how they did during the Civil Rights Movement. If we can bring that mentality back, then maybe some things would change. im jst sayn

  • @migy031 The U.S. has had 3 generations of prosperity---and of course, certain groups shared less of that---but as a whole, the whole middle class got hoodwinked. Forced integreation killed the recycling of black money back into their communities and neighborhoods---creating instant ghettos, but shifted them to suburbs and large corporations like McDonalds, Ford, or Wal-Mart. And our middle class has believed a lie, only to have it unfold in front of their faces today.

  • @AnnNoire YES!!!!

  • AWESOME! It takes way too much energy to be negative for me. I would rather have that feeling of connection and move toward higher heights together with my people, instead of tearing one person down.

  • @MsRosieVelt You got it right!!!

  • Tell them the truth!

  • Scholars debate about whether Willie Lynch actually existed however, yet the psychological slavery of African American's exists.

  • @Apriluv7779 Yes! but I tell you....someone did a number on our psyche.

  • @vanie0295 YES! "They" didn't do it to us! We did it to ourselves :) Love your hair! You are gorgeous!

  • Amen

  • Girl u not lyin! As a fellow Jamaican I know the Maroons were so disruptive the british tried to KICK them out Jamaica lol! Imagine if we just REALIZED we been brainwashed to hate each other. Look at Black Wall street when the whites massacred the prosperous blacks in that town they didn't give a damn who was light and who was dark. We Berta wake up and get out of this "color matrix"

  • @polifonyann Girl a yu not lyin'!!!!

  • Yes, yes, yes, yes

  • Your so right w/ both sides having their own issues. My daughter is light-skin and I'm dark-skinned, my hair is very kinky and hers is curly... and we BOTH have to deal with ignorance and jealousy! People mentally have to get pass the distorted image of "beauty" in the media. You are right there are so many other issues that could take the space of this. I'm dealing with the educational system [or lack thereof] right now...and THAT'S something we should talk or DO something about!

  • @ShanaJaye Me too!!! I wanna slap my son's teach...I think she want me to catch a case lol.

  • Kudos love your response! @ negresspays - I have read the same letter. Basically he talked about breaking the mind and keeping the body.

  • @mklane05 I did too! not sure if he really existed but who ever wrote it white or black was trying to prove a point. Someone did a number on our psyche.

  • Thank you or this video, putting things in prespective!!

  • @CatchingPiecesOfMe You are welcome.

  • Oh my goodness - where is the loving button! Had to thumbs up this video. Love what you had to say and completly agree with you, I was thinking around the same things. Mad respect for you for saying this xx

  • @QueenChezabelle Great minds think alike :).

  • Sorry, typo, I don't know what happen between these 2 vlogers and 2 b honest I don't want 2 know. I grew up in the Caribbean and I can say that in Europe u still find pockets of people with the same slave mentality. I remember a few years back reading a letter written by Willie Lynch a slave master, written in 1712 I think, explaining to other slave owners "how to make a good slave ". I was amazed and saddened because I realise that even though slavery was abolished some of us are still affecte

  • @negresspays I got you :). Yes I too read the letter...it was not apparently clear to me if there was actually ever such a name named willie lynch (lynching hmmm)....someone could have wrote it to prove the point that we did do a number done on our psyche.

  • I am not awar

  • Seriously, there's a reason why Filipinos and some Asians groups with a history of come to the U.S. & starting businesses so easily. There were loopholes & forms of reparations by U.S. involvement in those nations. Everyone wants to speak about HARD WORK. Hard work my #ss.  When a generations earlier, Europeans were criticizing work ethics of Asian groups--outside of rice patty cultures. Centuries of enslaved African hard work without reparation trumps anything other ethnic group complaint.

  • @AnnNoire Girl you are telling the truth but sooo many people are clueless.

  • Right on, sista! We are cut from the same cloth! Girl, the Indians, Filipinos, Japanese & others got forms of reparations. Yes, the Haitian Rebellion & Maroons inspired social movements in the U.S.! Even Harriet Tubman spoke about the possibility of freeing other slaves, if they KNEW they were free! You are speaking my language. My stance is on food, sustainability & bringing a sustainable life to urban communities, and all of it is tied to the betterment of our people! Love you for this!

  • Thank you for bringing a higher purpose to this issue. I find that "lesser issues" get more attention, but the true horrible root is ignored. That's why I always dismiss the "natural nazi insults" topic, because nobody puts that kind of energy in the centuries of programmed self-hate. Seriously, you're right! Oprah has her Master Class, but my God! Why can't we have something like that for our kids! And for Occupy Wall Street, I believe there needs to be a Food Movement of that sort! A must!

  • I clicked this video to watch your message, but I'm 1000% distracted by your hair! You're one of my hair inspirations, because you grow your hair out loud! Ahhhhhhhh! I can't wait to get that hair!

  • but you made some good points that i was burning to expand on. the vid will be up today no editing

  • @TheNaprika Girl u did not need any editing....thanks for adding another level headed response.

  • Vanie you have moved me to do a video response in my bed clothes. i cldnt wait to put my side of this arguement down it was burnin! i cldnt read all the comments on those vids as i kno some ppl jump on the volitile and i dont like to see tht

  • Nope. You're not the only one. When I saw some response videos and comments, one of my thoughts was that massa couldn't have done a better job. SMH

  • @trini467 Great minds think alike.

  • Tell them sistah!! We argue over the wrong things!!

  • well said. I didn't even bother to chime in on this issue. I'm more concerned with next year's presidential election and what's going on with lay offs at the school board I work for. I mean I love to talk about hair as a hobby and I do stand up for people when others are done wrong, like when I was called Nappy by my supervisor but I know when to take a backseat to some things that really don't have nothing to do with nothing.

  • @tastiredbone Girl I'm gonna have to volunteer again next year....don't know what good it will do in Ga though.

  • @vanie0295 Yeah, I really pray that he get's elected again and I pray that we can get a democratic congress as well so we can get some of these laws passed and help the people that need help. I'm getting so frustrated with these Tea Party people I can just slap them, lol

  • I really feel this video! Why do people want to have the same arguement over and over about a issue that will gain you nothing? There is way more to life.

  • GREAT response Vanie.... Couldn't have been said any better... I pray that people hear the message! I felt the same way... Her first video I expressed my sadness at the negative interaction.... when I saw that there was 2 more videos from her.. I was SO confused.... I couldn't believe how it all got turned to the negative, dark side... God bless us all! Lets get together and LOVE and SUPPORT one another!

  • @ab82510 Yes!!!!!

  • I'm so happy you decided to respond not many peoples minds are open & aware, so hopefully when they see this video it'll strike a nerve in them. Luvyo Videos always!!

  • I concur with you!!!! I've been saying this forever!!!! I was aware that the Jewish community received reparation but I didn't know Native Americans did. We could be focusing rebuilding urban cities, better teachers, keeping kids from following the wrong crowds... I mean there are a millions issues we can direct our attention to!!!! It's just goes to show that blacks have their minds set on the wrong things and we definitely have a long ways to go. I'm so happy you decided to respond not many

  • @Sugarie4eva YES!!!!

  • AMEN!!!! Vanie say it again.

  • Real talk!

  • your accent came out, lol. I can tell you are passionate about this topic, thanks for sharing

  • U BETTER SAY IT OMG...

  • my thoughts exactly!!!! great vid sis

  • Love this!! TRUTH!!  We need it!!!!

  • Sounds like things that definitely run through my mind also. If you have satellite radio, listen to the POWER on XM channel 169. Nothing but putting action into those same thoughts. Walk good....

  • @155linden I wish I did have satelite radio! My girl Randi Rose is on there too (I'm into politics)

  • wow, very touching, and u r so educated, I would love to have a friend like u!

  • It's nice to hear that you are pro black. You are one of the very few hair vloggers on Youtube that I know that are. All the other are very individualistic aka I got mine get yours, instead of thinking or caring about the community.

  • Love ur energy

  • This is a great response. So much energy that could be channeled elsewhere. By the way, your hair is hot! :)

  • @DejaVu807 LOL thanks hun!

  • All I have to say is we have come a long way and obviously much further to go, when issues like this arise....read what I said on Lubella's video girl. Thanks for doing this vid Vanie, you are right on all accounts.......gotta go study I'm out. :)

  • @splinta24 u betta go study splinta....don't do like me.....that abstract algebra test kicked my butt and mi a mek yt vids lol.

  • I wish there was a love button!

  • @pjb31apb awwww thanks hun!

  • I don't know what's going on but I would like to say that the color of our skin and the texture of our hair and even the history of a people does not necessarily bind us together. In my opinion, all conversations are warrantied including arguments..disagreements etc... I'm just saying♥

  • @StormyHair Very true!!! I just think it should be constructive...but curse back and forth on....achieves nothing.

  • Perfect!

  • PREACH VANIE!!!! This is the BEST VIDEO RESPONSE I have seen on this subject!!! You are the REAL DEAL!!!

  • @lilallnatural1 lol mi a di real deal.....thanks hun.

  • Thanks for posting this Vanie :-) I hope Nikki doesn't regret starting this conversation. I think it's been a big elephant in the room. I totally agree with you in regards to the vicious comments. But the main thing is we're talking about it. Of course there will be a minority of people who are irrational & who hate you...just because. Or jealous/envious....just because. Like you have no control over the fact that i'm envious that your BIG BEAUTIFUL HAIR barely fits in the screen!

  • @LuBellaCoils Girl you made me burst out in a much needed laughter. I really hope she doesn't.....those were her experience.....and really it could have sparked a convrsation that could have healed deep wounds for so many. But what did we do.....take the road traveled by so many before ua...a road to nowhere.

  • As a teacher, I just want to say that the educational system is where it is because a lot of our people forgot that education begins and ends at home not in the classroom. Vids are put out there to be commented on, and so they were. Although I do agree with you that the comments are a waste of our time as black community.

  • @Summerbeeuty Awww a fellow educator :). I would have loved to see intelligent comments on this topic but what did get.....pure ignorance in general,

  • @vanie0295 Off topic, how long have you been natural. Love the big Lion hair!!! Fab

  • @Summerbeeuty lol Four years this week! check out my four year anniversary vid :).

  • issues as well - even when we disagree. If this is not the case, why have a youtube natural hair community at all...?

  • Hey girl! I started not to respond to this vid, cause I'm bout wore out on this topic. But as u know, I'm always interested in what u have to say. So here we go - Why is it ok to talk about hair when we are all in agreement, yet when we are in disagreement, we shud be talking about more important issues other than hair? I cud be wrong, but I think we can talk about hair and other important

  • @maximuslyricusHey hun! I agree is the discourse was such where people could agree to disagree...or just communicate in such a manner where we can get to the root of the colorism issue for the betterment of blacks in general. But what I witness in the comment section is just plain ole shameful.

  • @vanie0295 Ok- I agree with u 100 on that. In fact, I only read a small percentage of the comments because I didn't have time to read more, and I sensed that they were probably not as fruitful as one wud hope for. By the way - I failed to mention that your hair is just devine! Luv luv luv it!!!!

  • off topic but I love when ur accent comes out lol not tryna b weird

  • Great video. I agree. It's much bigger then hair. A young mother in my city had to call the fire department on her child's school, because her child's kindergarten classroom had 50 kids in it, and school administrators refuse to do anything about it. Of course it made the news, but I did not see the kind of outrage that the situation warranted, yet we fight about hair?

  • @TheNaturalmystery WHAT 50 STUDENTS!!!!! This should not be allowed in the United States of America SMH.

  • Very well said vanie I agree. I didnt even attempt to comment on none of the vids I saw related to this mess......pointless to much other stuff for us to worry about in this world then HAIR and the NATURAL HAIR COMMUNITY...

  • @natural4life37 True!

  • Amen Sistah... when Bob seh Free yuhself from mental slavery dem neva listen... I dont even want to get into it... but damn yuh hit the nail on the head.. #thatisall

  • @30something007 Girl Last year I made a response to a vid and burst out into that song lol...almost did here lol.

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