TV poseurs, nobody on TV has any guts anyway. Why not call Ruch Limbaugh a idiot and the rest of the GOp the brainless twits they are, in fact Id like to see the president after elected and has no more terms flip off the collective GOp and say sit and spin
@ImmortalSynn Its healthy to believe the President serves the people and does all the right things, but that's just like saying Santa really lives on the North Pole. And maybe I'm wrong, but who really replaced the mob in the middle of the 20th Century?
i hate when these stupid commentators are all like 'that is not what i was expecting' or 'bad form'. shut up! o my goodness, the ppl have the right to say whatever they want to say! bush can ruin the country but cant take a few boos? grow up. stop telling us how to react.
LOL, get real. Ron Paul doesn't have a chance in hell of winning. Why? Because too many interests on both the Left and Right would stand to lose too much power/influence/money if he does. They'd NEVER let it happen, even if it means a pyrrhic victory.
@ImmortalSynn "They'd never LET"? You underestimate the powerful force of the 99
%; or even a fraction of that if "they" were met head on by an angry national mob for interfering with the will of the mob... I wouldn't want to be one of "them" when the people came for them. Where could they hide? behind the military? How long do you think that would last. Pyrrhic victory for who?.. the 99% or the coward progressive elite? Whichever side you choose, chances are you will get yours.
"You underestimate the powerful force of the 99%"
Nope. I just understand the power of money in elections in the age of Citizens United. The 99% doesn't have it. Plain and simple
"I wouldn't want to be one of "them" when the people came for them."
One thing you apocalyptic revolutionary types always seem to forget is that NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE CARE in order to start that shit. They're more concerned with what the Real Housewives and Football picks are doing
Or, because the incumbent would be re-elected, lol.
But even if not... you just 1) prejudged the "class" of another ("He who mentions class, has none.") and 2) just mass-labeled and entire spectrum of people as "morons."
In other words, you just defeated your own argument. Congrats.
The only man who deserves what this great man didn't is Obama. I cannot believe the immaturity of these most thumbed up comments. Not at all surprising the minorities attending the event are more ecstatic than everyone else.
I was nothing more than disgusted at the complete show of disrespect here. You do not jeer the man who is arguably the leader of the free world on his last day of office, no matter their political alignment. Of course, an illustration is painted based on the peasant-class crowd attending the inauguration, who probably expect the world on a plate from politicians.
It's not disrespectful. If they physically attacked him and yelled curse words..yes. You shouldn't do that to any human being. But boo..get real. He is nothing more than a man. Not God and certainly not some omnipotent ruler. It may be disrespectful when other political leaders disrespect each other but not the public. They elected these people and have a right to show their displeasure. If you want a dictatorship go back to Feudal England where Henry the VIII would kill you for the joy of it.
Not sure of the accuracy of that one. He certainly created more total debt than any of them before him, but in nominal terms. Real finance, there's no way.
Hmm, this isn't Hannity y'know... you can't just make pathetically-blanket statements like that and expect them not to go unchallenged.
So how exactly did he do "more damage" by helping codify a budget, launching a fiscal stimulus that slowed job loss by a magnitude of thousands, and offering insurance to those who contribute most to healthcare's wildly-rising costs (i.e., those who rely on emergency rooms and public assistance). Again, how? I'd love to hear you answer.
@ImmortalSynn Gladly. In the 35 months Obama has been president, he added more than $4 trillion dollars to his debt. Bush has added $4.9 trillion in debt in his whole 96 months in office. Now you can't possibly tell me that more debt is good for the country. Obama is spending 152% more per month than his predecessor. That's definitely codifying the budget, alright. This means we have less than no money as a nation, and Obama is making it worse.
"Bush has added $4.9 trillion in debt in his whole 96 months in office."
Wrong. "Bush" added $6.47T... many of the same policies (most notably the 2003 tax cut) carrying over into Obama's term as well. Though I do now blame the Dems for that as well, by caving and extending them.
"Obama is spending 152% more per month than his predecessor"
Your numbers are way off, and again, do not account for processes started under Bush that wouldn't have just ended under Obama
Mostly because consumer spending (which accounts for nearly 70% of our domestic private spending) is still way down, due to the market meltdown and ensuing credit crunch, lower average "real term" wages, increased debt, and in general uncertainty. With consumer spending low, less hiring is occurring, and the two are combining to create a downward spiral.
And we all thought it couldn't get worse than Bush. Look at the state of the country though now, under 3 years of Obama. Holy shit...he's done more damage to this country than 100 years in a row of Bush could ever do. Obama = 1 and done.
@bbasher79 And the facts (or your facts) that corroborate your silly post are what? You are a wing nut, so I will allow your made up bull shit. However, don't throw out the used ones, come up with something new, like he throws dice behind the rose garden, you get it, be more creative. He has not started bull shit wars, political hacks/firing of US attys, outing a CIA agent, Katrina, shit like that, then I'll be right there you. (Oh, got UBL) until then stick to Harry Potter books.
Eh, you aren't exactly keepin' it classy yourself-- not to mention employing blatant (and baseless) assumption. Not much different than what you assert them to be, when ya think of it. :)
@ImmortalSynn i feel like im watching barbershop 2 and al sharpton arranged for them all to get bused to DC to boo the outgoing fake republican white man
Perfect example of how classless the liberals are. They demand respect, yet they give none. I'm not an Obama supporter and I would absolutely LOVE to boo him out of office in 2012. However, considering he's our president, I think he should be shown respect as he exits our nation's highest office. That's the difference between a conservative and a liberal.
@ImmortalSynn You think the acts of a few represent an entire group of people? That would be like me saying since the late Democrat Senator Byrd was a member of the KKK, all Democrats must be members. This is the problem with the vast majority of Democrats. You're all for being "tolerant" until it comes to someone whom doesn't agree with you, nor your agenda, then you become nasty, intolerable, and downright disrespectful. No, I'm not deluded, nor oblivious, just because I disagree with you.
"You think the acts of a few represent an entire group of people?"
Well, when those people are running for national office, and receive an overwhelming majority of their constituents' votes in order to gain their nominee status (or more so to the fact, win)--- then, welllllll..... yeah, they do.
(Could you have possibly asked a dumber question??? LOL)
"This is the problem with the vast majority of Democrats. You're all for being "tolerant" until it comes to someone whom doesn't agree with you, nor your agenda,"
Curious, why do you ASSUME that:
1) I'm a Democrat?
2) That you have even a remote clue what my "agenda" may be?
@ImmortalSynn When I asked you, "Do you think the acts of a few represent an entire group of people?" You responded with a yes. If that's the case, then I guess we can conclude that all Democrats are actually racists, considering the fact that the KKK was created by the acts of a few Democrats and that Robert Byrd, a member of the KKK, was elected to public office. So I apologize for my "dumb question," I'm glad you were able to clear up for me!
"then I guess we can conclude that all Democrats are actually racists"
Aside from your use over an overly-simplistic quantifier ("all")... you might be surprised to know that I don't disagree with you. Who knew *you* could get something right??!!
Think about it: Byrd was elected in West Virginia-- the nation's hotbed of neo-Nazi activity, housing more such groups than any Southern state. So in essence, yes he was a representative of a large, if not majority, of his constituency.
LOL, the Brits don't have squat on the Taiwanese. Their officials are lucky when they can leave the building without requiring stitches and concussion braces! lol
Good for those who 'boo'ed Bush! Where is your country now? Only deeper in debt, more mired in forgien conflict and oh yeah, the proud hosts of your new OWNER Hu Jintao! What a feat! Hu never got no dinner at the White House with Bush, guess you Dems have some info that the rest of don't know about! Bon Appetitte, don't choke on the 'humble pie', eh? Shouldn't have allowed the Falan Gung protests in public though, what is the new boss to think of that?!? Chapter 11 coming up! Go Republican 2012!
can someone please give me some examples of positive things that GWB accomplished while he was in the white house ? i look forward to hearing from someone.
@MSG685 Tax cuts for everyone, kept the country safe for 7 years following 911, has contributed significantly in the fight against AIDS around the world, especially in Africa, removed an evil dictator from power, and planted the seed of democracy in the middle east, and we can already see that seed growing in places like Egypt, Tunisia, Lybia, and many other nations in the stages of revolt against tyrannical governments. History will judge the Bush presidency, we are still to subjective.
@nicktabus1000 "Tax cuts for everyone" Not true "for 7 years following 911" Great job, too bad he missed the one that took THREE THOUSAND lives (despite plenty of prior warning). "especially in Africa" But not much at home "removed an evil dictator from power" Who proved to be no threat whatsoever to us, and CERTAINLY was not worth nearly a TRILLION dollars to do so... "that seed growing in places like Egypt" Riiiight, Bush credited for Egyptian revolution! Are you out of your mind??
Well, we were staring at the the possibility of a depression in late 2008/early 2009. That was avoided. The economy and unemployment are nowhere near what anyone would like them to be right now, no doubt, but who's to say they wouldn't be far worse had those steps not been taken?
Regardless, it's recovering at about the same pace we saw in 1983, so hopefully long term they'll have done their job. But only time can tell at this point.
Says who... you? Methinks you might be a little limited in perspective.
Ever heard how much credit Bush has gotten over the years for "keeping us safe"... despite the fact that the worst attack on our country happened under HIS watch, despite prewarning?
Ever heard how much credit Clinton gets for the '90s economy?
Ever heard how much credit Reagan gets for "ending the Cold War," when the Soviets' massive internal problems that had actually been building for decades?
@ImmortalSynn im not gonna argue, all i have to say is like him or not, bush was our president and what the demacrats did was disrespectful. he did not deserve to go out like that, and for anyone you booed him, i have no respect for you.
@DeedsResearcher your opinion is the idea of the ignorant, uninformed, and undereducated. you're one of the weak minded that's easily brainwashed by the lies of the republican party. i suppose you also support the paul ryan budget plan which will turn medicare into a voucher system, right? i'd hate to see such a great country fall into the hands of the selfish again, and it's ignorant people like yourself who will eventually succeed in letting this happen once more sometime in the future.
Love this video. I wish I had been there in person to boo the murdering SOB Bush as he finally left the White House. I was booing him from my living room in Oklahoma.
Ridiculous question. Its fallacy is to imply that they would be had the money not been spent. Though if you want a direct answer to it, then yes, that's a deal I'd take any day.
So would the rest of the general American populace. How do I know? --it's because ACTIONS speak a lot louder than words; and we as a nation have done essentially nil (other than give celebrity lip service) to combat genocide in recent years, relative to other expenditures.
1)Because one of us has to be the bigger man. And like i said, we didnt have to agree with all of his decisions, im sure a comprimise could have been made had we all talked it out like human beings rather than let political parties blind our way of thinking
2)Well, responding to the terrorist attacks from Osama bBin-Laden did, it was very unfortunate that things didnt turn out to well.
3)And whats a trillion dollers to a hundred thousand curdish lives being saved from genocide
@immortalsynn well yes, i realise there are mistakes that could have been avoided. But regardless we as americans should have shown more support rather than hostility. by support i dont mean support every one of his decisions, but the booing was just unacceptable. At the time the decisions made seemed like the right ones, and despite the many negative outcomes, some positives did happen as well.
Uh, WHY? Many felt that this man was leading us to the slaughter. Why "should" they have supported him.
"At the time the decisions made seemed like the right ones"
Um, seemed like that to WHO??
"some positives did happen as well."
And if you would've told the people that we'd spend nearly a *T*rillion producing those "positives," how many would not have then rioted in the streets?
i dont think he was the greatest president, but to be honest he did his best. so much stuff happend during his term it was overwhelming. he didnt deserve the booing though, i thought we had more integrity than that.
can someone please give me some examples of positive things that GWB accomplished while he was in the white house ? i look forward to hearing from someone.
@MSG685 Well for one, he passed a tax cut that even Obama has conceded "now is not the time to repeal" and the nations around the world had a fear of us... Don't get me wrong, I'm no Bush fan at all but to hate Bush and love Obama simply proves how big of a sheep someone truly is... The American people are tired of all these dirty politicians (Bush & Obama)
They're all full of it- we were tired of the Dems in 94, then tired of the GOP in 06, now tired of the Dems '10... Pure Stage Acts!
"that even Obama has conceded "now is not the time to repeal"
Obama's also no master of fiscal strategy either though.
"and the nations around the world had a fear of us."
Sure, but I'd say they feared our instability and disregard for international law/protocol, more than fearing anything.... sorta how the rest of the world fears about N.Korea. And that ain't exactly good company to be in.
Honestly I voted for Obama because Republicans are full of shit. Take Bush for example. Before Obama even showed his face, as a country we should have threw a party celebrating the fact that Bush will never be president again.
i love how when i read arguments about america....people bring up the founding fathers....HELLO the founding fathers supported slavery, opression of women, and racism.
I'll guarentee you that Obama will be booed too when he leaves office in 2013. Most people have long sobered up from the "Hope, Change, yes we can!" mentality.
For your guarantee to work, the opposition would actually have to come up with someone to give a compelling reason to vote for them... and unfortunately for you, that hasn't yet happened.
History shows us that if they play the "I-have-nothing-to-offer-but-at-least-I'm-not-THAT-GUY" card, they're guaranteed to lose; just like Mondale, Dole, and Kerry did, when their blase campaigns did the same primary tactic. And that's exactly where the Palin/Romney/Newt etc GOP is at right now
@ImmortalSynn I'll agree with about Romney; I don't trust him as far as I can fling a stone. Newt has his flaws too. Palin I have more hope for, but it's a reserved hope. What's important is to get real Tea Party types in office, and then have them stick to conservative principals, not sell out to the tax and spend economics that the Bush and the GOP congress of the early 2000s. We need tax cuts followed by deep spending and regulatory cuts to recover like we did in 1920-21.
"and then have them stick to conservative principals, not sell out to the tax and spend economics that the Bush and the GOP congress of the early 2000s."
Unfortunately for that idea, when has the post-Goldwater leadership on the Right actually DONE that?
We're closing in on a half-century, and have never seen them actually accomplish such, or even genuinely seem to intend to.
It annoyed me then, and annoys me still. But I think no one can deny, Bush earned that response through eight years of disastrous mismanagement of our country. Obama has not proven himself much better in that regard, but the general feedback I hear around me is that he-at least-just seems to not be up to the task, while Bush, or at least some of his staff, seemed to be intentionally lying and hurting people for their own benefit.
And yet, the best you could do was post a shill site called "Obama Hates America (sic) Constitution," with claims so ridiculously easy to disprove that a 5second Google search is all it takes. LOL, brilliant.
That's precisely the reason I didn't delete your pathetic little whine on my channel wall... so anyone reading can see the true (lack of) depth in your mental process. Enjoy. ;)
@ImmortalSynn Like I said, my time is much more valuable than to waste it arguing with a leftist PIG like you. Hun, I'll give you plenty more pages and you'll just have to swallow the alarming amount of them proving that people don't like this liberal prick in office, and your asses are going to get handed to you in November. So suck on it.
@ImmortalSynn He's been very clear about his stance on gun rights(the Second Amendment); he opposes them. He also openly pushed for and supports Cap & Trade, the government takeover of healthcare, and the stimulus bill, all of which violate the Tenth Amendment.
Not all of them. And even if he did, refer back to my point two: who cares, *he* can't do anything about it.
"all of which violate the Tenth Amendment"
Y'think so huh... so then humor us, tell us HOW.
It's one thing to repeat Fringe right talking points... let's see if you can break 'em down and explain. We'll wait, take all the google-time you need. This oughta be rich.
@ImmortalSynn I'd have to disagree with your contention that Obama has no control over wheteher or not he chooses to follow or not follow the Second and Tenth amndments. He has total power to decide which course he's going to pursue. For instance, the stimulus bill violates the Tenth Amendment. Obama brought the bill forth and pushed for it, and eventually signed it into law. No one forced him to propose or sign into law the stimulus bill, he did it on his own, happily. He could have vetoed.
"your contention that Obama has no control over wheteher or not he chooses to follow or not follow the Second and Tenth amndments."
Wouldn't I have actually had to HAVE/STATE such a position, first? LOL
"For instance, the stimulus bill violates the Tenth Amendment."
As stated in my last post to you, you can claim that all you want, but it's not going to make it true. So let's try this again, HOW does it do so? Ignore me again, and lose your ability to post here.
@ImmortalSynn I could understand threatening to remove my posting ability if I was being overly obnoxious, but in this case? I felt that I DID respond to what you asked, but I'll try again. Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution lists the powers that Congress has. The Tenth Amendment says that anything not listed as one of those powers is prohibited. Therefore the Stimulus bill, Obamacare, and Cap & Trade are all unContistutional because they violate the Tenth Amendment. I'm out of room...
I don't like being ignored if I ask someone a question.
But now I see: your rationale is so (over)simplistic that I was actually just giving you too much credit, as in "that couldn't possibly be your answer."
That said: the general broadness of Article1Sec8 alone ensures that "your" claims are going nowhere. And even then, state coercion via highway (etc) funds essentially ensure the states will go with it, despite hyperbole to the contrary.
@ImmortalSynn Honestly, about 80% of our Federal government right now violates the Tenth Amendment, very probably the highway funds too. Article I Section 8 does talk about building "post roads" for postal purposes, so that area is a little foggy. I'm pretty sure the founding fathers today would have removed that section and pushed for state control over all roads.
"Honestly, about 80% of our Federal government right now violates the Tenth Amendment,"
And 79.999% of that probably doesn't stand a chance in hell of getting repealed, barring anything short of a dissolving of the union... so why live in a fantasy world about the new stuff being magically undone by the vote-panderers that are Congress? How much luck have they had rescinding pan-national rights/grants over the last 50yrs hmmm?
@tedmccarron The 10th Amendment only reserves "powers not delegated" to the federal govt to the states; not "powers not EXPRESSLY delegated." This was a key change from Article 2 of the Articles of Confederation, which provided that states retained "every Power... which is not by this confederation EXPRESSLY delegated to the United States."
Just as the 9th Am. recognizes implied rights, the 10th Am. (& the Necessary & Proper Clause) recognizes implied (non-enumerated) federal powers.
Unfortunately for that megalomaniacal sense of self-importance... what you or I would do is sorta immaterial to this case-- considering that he was, well, cut a complete and total amount of slack.
It's a bunch of dumb people booing cause they think it's some type of sporting event, president bush left much better then the Clinton admin they cause over 100,000 dollars worth of damage including removing the w from every computer keyboard
Good lord, grow up. And instead of worrying how much another demographic knows about politics, perhaps you should study up a bit on basic percentages. Even if every minority in the USA voted in unison for Obama (which didn't happen by a longshot), it still wouldn't have been enough for him to win by the margins that he did. Not even close
So whether you want to admit it or not, the majority of ALL people in this country wanted him as our President: Red, Yellow, Black, AND WHITE
uh, "yes really"...... particularly seeing as 100% of Blacks in this country only make up 12% of the national population. Now factor in the fact that nowhere near that amount are 1) adult 2) registered voters, who 3) actually showed up at the polls; and you'll understand exactly why the fact that "90% of Blacks voting for him" would've had nil effect on anything, unless a huge number of every other kind of person, especially Whites, hadn't done the same.
@ImmortalSynn Not just 90% of voting blacks, but also well over 50% of other minority groups voted for blacks. And it doesn't matter how much of an effect they had, I wasn't claiming the results would be different, I'm just pointing to the fact that blacks voted for him merely because of his race.
"I'm just pointing to the fact that blacks voted for him merely because of his race"
I'm aware. And you're correct, many did. My question to you in all of this is: so what? What's your point in even bringing that up?
The reason I ask, is because there's also plenty of people who voted AGAINST him because of his race. And there's plenty of people who voted both for and against him who couldn't care less what color he is. So again, what's the point in your bringing that up?
Don't get me wrong, I got why you put it up there before ever saying a word to you... the manner in which you did so made it obvious that you were doing it as a defensive/coping mechanism.
And that's fine, and you have a right to do so-- but I'm just hoping that some of my questions to you here, have prompted a bit of personal insight in that regard.
Boehner is like let me get the hell out of here! Not a Bush supporter, but it was wrong to boo him, but people who do the same when Obama leaves off if his successor is a Republican.
as much as i dislike bush i sort of feel bad for him, given his lack of power against the Republican party, im sure he wouldnt be such a bad person to just get hammered and do coke with..
@ImmortalSynn No he didn't! His Presidency was over the least they could do was show some respect. Under Bush's administration, there were no more terrorist attacks in America! We were safe under Bush!
Respect is something to be EARNED, not GRANTED. Bush had done nothing to earn their respect, and plenty to lose it.
"We were safe under Bush! "
There were a grand total of zero under Bush41, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, etc etc as well: gonna give them the same credit? Ridiculous. For all you know "the terrorists" may not have even been planning to do anything else, why give credit to Bush?
@ImmortalSynn He earned our respect. He kept us safe! Under Obama's current administration there were many internal terrorist threats, possible attacks, and deaths: Forthood massacre 13 dead, possible Christmas Day Bomber could have killed a whole plane, and the botched Times Square bombing! But none under Bush (after 9/11) And you say the terrorists might not do anything else? Fool! Jihad is not just a one step process of course they would try to do other things!
Instead of repeating that over and over again, as some kind of mantra, tell us: how did he "keep us safe" when 3000 people died under his watch, after his administration received PLENTY of forewarning?
"Under Obama's current administration"
Why are you trying to bring Obama into this to defend Bush? I don't recall saying anything about no terrorism under Obama, because I'm well aware that there has been.
"And you say the terrorists might not do anything else? "
Uh no, I didn't. You said that. Stop trying to put words in my mouth to suit your point.
I said they might not have been planning anything else, for within the time frame that you're giving Bush credit for. Planning for 9/11 went as far back as Project Bojinka and later the Kenya bombings. It was years between actions. You gonna give Clinton credit for "keeping us safe" within that time frame? Get real.
Well, you're giving Bush completely unmerited credit... why not make it a free4all? LOL
Anyway, point being: at the end of the day, only a fool gives someone credit for an intangible negative.
I mean hell, with THAT mentality: I could hire a half-dozen Marlboro men, send 'em to the middle east for a month, and if nothing happens I can start going around saying "I kept you all safe last month!"... and some idiots out there would actually BUY it!
@ImmortalSynn Well, looking from your perspective; why boo em? He didn't actually do anything bad. He deserves clapping at least. Or at least a tone of respect!
How does failing to prevent the biggest terrorist massacre in our country's history, after TONS of warning, quality in your mind of "not doing anything bad"??
Starting two wars, worth a trillion dollars, with no purpose?
Scapegoating gays and Mexicans to achieve votes, but then doing nothing about/to/for either?
This man was incompetence made manifest. He deserves the hangman's noose, not clapping.
@ImmortalSynn Haha! There was no warning about a possible terrorist attack, if there was then airport security would have been tighter and they would not have let 10 muslim men on board. There was a purpose to go into Afghanistand and Iraq! Iraq; to finish his father's work by overthrowng Saddam. Afghanistan; Many Taliban and Al-Quadea militants were stationed there and the Afghans were glad about 9/11! You want to hang a former US President? You sick bastard. What war crimes did he oversee?
TV poseurs, nobody on TV has any guts anyway. Why not call Ruch Limbaugh a idiot and the rest of the GOp the brainless twits they are, in fact Id like to see the president after elected and has no more terms flip off the collective GOp and say sit and spin
guitargold77 3 days ago
How rude. I don't like Obama, but if he lost the election, I would not boo him when he left. He's still the president and deserves some respect.
piratesmvp 1 month ago
@piratesmvp Lol, the President is nothing more than the head leader of organized crime now.
RoonGang09 4 weeks ago
@RoonGang09
...alright, now let's see you corroborate that idiotic statement.
ImmortalSynn 4 weeks ago
@ImmortalSynn Its healthy to believe the President serves the people and does all the right things, but that's just like saying Santa really lives on the North Pole. And maybe I'm wrong, but who really replaced the mob in the middle of the 20th Century?
RoonGang09 4 weeks ago
@RoonGang09
"And maybe I'm wrong"
Hmm, if THAT ain't the understatement of the muthafuckin' century, lol.
ImmortalSynn 4 weeks ago
@ImmortalSynn Atleast I'm not bragging as if I'm totally right. Do you believe the President is all what he's suppoed to be or something?
RoonGang09 3 weeks ago
@RoonGang09
Nope. Next question?
ImmortalSynn 3 weeks ago
@ImmortalSynn Are you a smart ass?
RoonGang09 3 weeks ago
@RoonGang09
Are you blatantly oblivious to what should be obvious? lol
ImmortalSynn 3 weeks ago
i hate when these stupid commentators are all like 'that is not what i was expecting' or 'bad form'. shut up! o my goodness, the ppl have the right to say whatever they want to say! bush can ruin the country but cant take a few boos? grow up. stop telling us how to react.
djwestbrook36 1 month ago
@DavidGHayes91
LOL, get real. Ron Paul doesn't have a chance in hell of winning. Why? Because too many interests on both the Left and Right would stand to lose too much power/influence/money if he does. They'd NEVER let it happen, even if it means a pyrrhic victory.
ImmortalSynn 2 months ago
@ImmortalSynn "They'd never LET"? You underestimate the powerful force of the 99
%; or even a fraction of that if "they" were met head on by an angry national mob for interfering with the will of the mob... I wouldn't want to be one of "them" when the people came for them. Where could they hide? behind the military? How long do you think that would last. Pyrrhic victory for who?.. the 99% or the coward progressive elite? Whichever side you choose, chances are you will get yours.
GunClingingPalin 1 month ago
@GunClingingPalin
"You underestimate the powerful force of the 99%"
Nope. I just understand the power of money in elections in the age of Citizens United. The 99% doesn't have it. Plain and simple
"I wouldn't want to be one of "them" when the people came for them."
One thing you apocalyptic revolutionary types always seem to forget is that NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE CARE in order to start that shit. They're more concerned with what the Real Housewives and Football picks are doing
ImmortalSynn 1 month ago
@ImmortalSynn
We would also lose the EPA, The Department of Education, Social Security and Medicare/aid.
I, the American voter, will also never let it happen.
Get real you fucking bleary eyed Paultard.
LolCaramelz 1 month ago
@LolCaramelz
Um, are you dim, or just plain illiterate? How could I be a "Paultard" when I just said "Ron Paul doesn't have a chance in hell of winning"?
ImmortalSynn 1 month ago
Now the liberal Democrats got their panties in a wad because Moochelle was booed at a Nascar race.
truthforamerica 3 months ago
I'm not a big Bush fan but to sing "Nah Nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah. hey hey hey, good bye." C'mon people show some class.
jayNicks10 3 months ago
Did anyone else notice when they cut to the people singing they were only showing black people? Media is so deceptive
JuLew1031 4 months ago
@JuLew1031 Stop playing the fucking race card!!!!!
Marakulous43 4 months ago 2
@Marakulous43
Curious, how exactly do you feel that s/he is playing the race card?
ImmortalSynn 4 months ago
How telling. That will NOT happen next year because Republicans are not the classless morons that Democrats are.
rstryker27 5 months ago 2
@rstryker27
Or, because the incumbent would be re-elected, lol.
But even if not... you just 1) prejudged the "class" of another ("He who mentions class, has none.") and 2) just mass-labeled and entire spectrum of people as "morons."
In other words, you just defeated your own argument. Congrats.
ImmortalSynn 5 months ago
thats going happen to obama next year
collegekid805 5 months ago 5
What's shocking is that the commentators are shocked by the crowd reaction. Talk about out of touch.
fishhead06 6 months ago
The only man who deserves what this great man didn't is Obama. I cannot believe the immaturity of these most thumbed up comments. Not at all surprising the minorities attending the event are more ecstatic than everyone else.
MrSonatafragger 6 months ago
I was nothing more than disgusted at the complete show of disrespect here. You do not jeer the man who is arguably the leader of the free world on his last day of office, no matter their political alignment. Of course, an illustration is painted based on the peasant-class crowd attending the inauguration, who probably expect the world on a plate from politicians.
Heydosaurus 7 months ago
It's not disrespectful. If they physically attacked him and yelled curse words..yes. You shouldn't do that to any human being. But boo..get real. He is nothing more than a man. Not God and certainly not some omnipotent ruler. It may be disrespectful when other political leaders disrespect each other but not the public. They elected these people and have a right to show their displeasure. If you want a dictatorship go back to Feudal England where Henry the VIII would kill you for the joy of it.
whateverman181 6 months ago
bush created more debt than ALL Presidents in the history of our country combined
themeaningoflife38 8 months ago
@themeaningoflife38
Not sure of the accuracy of that one. He certainly created more total debt than any of them before him, but in nominal terms. Real finance, there's no way.
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
@ImmortalSynn Then Obama came along and did more damage in a few years passing his budget, the stimulus, and obamacare.
gcastro44 2 months ago
@gcastro44
Hmm, this isn't Hannity y'know... you can't just make pathetically-blanket statements like that and expect them not to go unchallenged.
So how exactly did he do "more damage" by helping codify a budget, launching a fiscal stimulus that slowed job loss by a magnitude of thousands, and offering insurance to those who contribute most to healthcare's wildly-rising costs (i.e., those who rely on emergency rooms and public assistance). Again, how? I'd love to hear you answer.
ImmortalSynn 2 months ago
@ImmortalSynn Gladly. In the 35 months Obama has been president, he added more than $4 trillion dollars to his debt. Bush has added $4.9 trillion in debt in his whole 96 months in office. Now you can't possibly tell me that more debt is good for the country. Obama is spending 152% more per month than his predecessor. That's definitely codifying the budget, alright. This means we have less than no money as a nation, and Obama is making it worse.
gcastro44 2 months ago
@gcastro44
"Bush has added $4.9 trillion in debt in his whole 96 months in office."
Wrong. "Bush" added $6.47T... many of the same policies (most notably the 2003 tax cut) carrying over into Obama's term as well. Though I do now blame the Dems for that as well, by caving and extending them.
"Obama is spending 152% more per month than his predecessor"
Your numbers are way off, and again, do not account for processes started under Bush that wouldn't have just ended under Obama
ImmortalSynn 2 months ago
@ImmortalSynn Also, explain to me why job growth is stagnant?
gcastro44 2 months ago
@gcastro44
Mostly because consumer spending (which accounts for nearly 70% of our domestic private spending) is still way down, due to the market meltdown and ensuing credit crunch, lower average "real term" wages, increased debt, and in general uncertainty. With consumer spending low, less hiring is occurring, and the two are combining to create a downward spiral.
ImmortalSynn 2 months ago
you think you hucksters are fooling anyone? we know what you're up to..
Kane88andToews19 8 months ago
And we all thought it couldn't get worse than Bush. Look at the state of the country though now, under 3 years of Obama. Holy shit...he's done more damage to this country than 100 years in a row of Bush could ever do. Obama = 1 and done.
bbasher79 8 months ago
@bbasher79
"Holy shit...he's done more damage to this country than 100 years in a row of Bush could ever do."
I'd loveeeeeee to see you quantify and substantiate that claim. Go ahead, try. It'd be beyond amusing.
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
@bbasher79 And the facts (or your facts) that corroborate your silly post are what? You are a wing nut, so I will allow your made up bull shit. However, don't throw out the used ones, come up with something new, like he throws dice behind the rose garden, you get it, be more creative. He has not started bull shit wars, political hacks/firing of US attys, outing a CIA agent, Katrina, shit like that, then I'll be right there you. (Oh, got UBL) until then stick to Harry Potter books.
MrEatonbeaver 6 months ago
bush was a horrible man, I would love to see him hang right next to obama. down with the new world order!
Crustydraw 8 months ago
look at all the welfare-sucking degenerates i guess burger king let them off for the day what a pathetic bunch of lowlifes
Kane88andToews19 8 months ago
@Kane88andToews19
Eh, you aren't exactly keepin' it classy yourself-- not to mention employing blatant (and baseless) assumption. Not much different than what you assert them to be, when ya think of it. :)
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
@ImmortalSynn ah shutup get out of my country go to europe and suck their welfare system dry leave me and my beautiful country the fuck alone
Kane88andToews19 8 months ago
@Kane88andToews19
LOL, grow up kiddie.
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
@ImmortalSynn i feel like im watching barbershop 2 and al sharpton arranged for them all to get bused to DC to boo the outgoing fake republican white man
Kane88andToews19 8 months ago
He deserved more than a Bronx cheer for abusing the Office of the Presidency 2002-2003.
Tsnore 8 months ago 2
@Tsnore
Amen.
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
Perfect example of how classless the liberals are. They demand respect, yet they give none. I'm not an Obama supporter and I would absolutely LOVE to boo him out of office in 2012. However, considering he's our president, I think he should be shown respect as he exits our nation's highest office. That's the difference between a conservative and a liberal.
09Chance 8 months ago
@09Chance
"They demand respect, yet they give none"
Are you deluded, or just oblivious?
Sharron Angle telling raped pregnant women to "make lemonade out of a lemon situation," that's classy and respectful?
Anti-gay GOP men always caught with a penis in their mouth, that's classy and respectful?
When Republicans CHARGE a trillion $, to be repaid by future generations, so millionaires can have tax cuts NOW, that's classy and respectful?
No, those are fuck yous. Just like they're giving Bush!
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
@ImmortalSynn You think the acts of a few represent an entire group of people? That would be like me saying since the late Democrat Senator Byrd was a member of the KKK, all Democrats must be members. This is the problem with the vast majority of Democrats. You're all for being "tolerant" until it comes to someone whom doesn't agree with you, nor your agenda, then you become nasty, intolerable, and downright disrespectful. No, I'm not deluded, nor oblivious, just because I disagree with you.
09Chance 8 months ago
@09Chance
"You think the acts of a few represent an entire group of people?"
Well, when those people are running for national office, and receive an overwhelming majority of their constituents' votes in order to gain their nominee status (or more so to the fact, win)--- then, welllllll..... yeah, they do.
(Could you have possibly asked a dumber question??? LOL)
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
@09Chance
"This is the problem with the vast majority of Democrats. You're all for being "tolerant" until it comes to someone whom doesn't agree with you, nor your agenda,"
Curious, why do you ASSUME that:
1) I'm a Democrat?
2) That you have even a remote clue what my "agenda" may be?
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
@ImmortalSynn When I asked you, "Do you think the acts of a few represent an entire group of people?" You responded with a yes. If that's the case, then I guess we can conclude that all Democrats are actually racists, considering the fact that the KKK was created by the acts of a few Democrats and that Robert Byrd, a member of the KKK, was elected to public office. So I apologize for my "dumb question," I'm glad you were able to clear up for me!
09Chance 8 months ago
@09Chance
"then I guess we can conclude that all Democrats are actually racists"
Aside from your use over an overly-simplistic quantifier ("all")... you might be surprised to know that I don't disagree with you. Who knew *you* could get something right??!!
Think about it: Byrd was elected in West Virginia-- the nation's hotbed of neo-Nazi activity, housing more such groups than any Southern state. So in essence, yes he was a representative of a large, if not majority, of his constituency.
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
You're SURPRISED? Don't underestimate a disatisfied people, just look at what the english do to their elected officials...
CrankMonkey99 10 months ago
@CrankMonkey99
LOL, the Brits don't have squat on the Taiwanese. Their officials are lucky when they can leave the building without requiring stitches and concussion braces! lol
ImmortalSynn 10 months ago
@CrankMonkey99 I believe you meant 'mis-underestimate'
neilvokey 10 months ago
What is he talking about bad form? He deserved even more!
res57 10 months ago
fucking boehner returns again.
LordKaisen 10 months ago
He deserved it, every bit as much as Obama now does.
dkupke 10 months ago
No class at all. Whether you like him or not, he was our president. We voted for him as a nation. Show some respect for the office.
newcombstrohschein 11 months ago
@newcombstrohschein Do you really expect "class" from liberal democrats? I DON'T!!!
DeedsResearcher 10 months ago
@DeedsResearcher
...what's that quip again about "He who mentions another's 'class,' has none of his own".....? Just wondering.
ImmortalSynn 10 months ago
Good for those who 'boo'ed Bush! Where is your country now? Only deeper in debt, more mired in forgien conflict and oh yeah, the proud hosts of your new OWNER Hu Jintao! What a feat! Hu never got no dinner at the White House with Bush, guess you Dems have some info that the rest of don't know about! Bon Appetitte, don't choke on the 'humble pie', eh? Shouldn't have allowed the Falan Gung protests in public though, what is the new boss to think of that?!? Chapter 11 coming up! Go Republican 2012!
cockshe 1 year ago
@cockshe so your saying they shouldn't have boo'ed Bush? Wow electing Obama was never easier than before. Thanks for being a part of it.
LordKaisen 10 months ago
LOLOLOLOL @ The crowd chanting "Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!" LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
vaibanez17 1 year ago
can someone please give me some examples of positive things that GWB accomplished while he was in the white house ? i look forward to hearing from someone.
MSG685 1 year ago 8
@MSG685 he saved our asses, educated the young, and and removed obama, i mean hussein
USMCsaveri97 10 months ago
@USMCsaveri97
...you just put Bush and education in the same reference???
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
ImmortalSynn 9 months ago
@MSG685 Tax cuts for everyone, kept the country safe for 7 years following 911, has contributed significantly in the fight against AIDS around the world, especially in Africa, removed an evil dictator from power, and planted the seed of democracy in the middle east, and we can already see that seed growing in places like Egypt, Tunisia, Lybia, and many other nations in the stages of revolt against tyrannical governments. History will judge the Bush presidency, we are still to subjective.
nicktabus1000 9 months ago
ImmortalSynn 9 months ago
@MSG685 ive got a better question, what has obama done so far?
lukeswift15 8 months ago
@lukeswift15
Signed the healthcare reform that he campaigned on.
Signed the credit card and loan reform that he campaigned on.
Signed the end of DADT that he campaigned on.
Signed the economic stimulus that he campaigned on.
Oversaw/planned/commanded the death of Bin Laden.
etc etc etc
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
@ImmortalSynn how that working for the economy?
republicanman111 8 months ago
@republicanman111
Well, we were staring at the the possibility of a depression in late 2008/early 2009. That was avoided. The economy and unemployment are nowhere near what anyone would like them to be right now, no doubt, but who's to say they wouldn't be far worse had those steps not been taken?
Regardless, it's recovering at about the same pace we saw in 1983, so hopefully long term they'll have done their job. But only time can tell at this point.
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
@ImmortalSynn do u really think obama is any better than bush, i mean yeah bush messed up but obama has taken alot of credit that wasnt do to him.
republicanman111 8 months ago
@republicanman111
"has taken alot of credit that wasnt do to him."
Show me a single US President that hasn't done PLENTY of that.... and I'll show *you* a gap in your historic memory. lol
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
@ImmortalSynn all of them do it, but they did get near the prase obama does.
republicanman111 8 months ago
@republicanman111
Says who... you? Methinks you might be a little limited in perspective.
Ever heard how much credit Bush has gotten over the years for "keeping us safe"... despite the fact that the worst attack on our country happened under HIS watch, despite prewarning?
Ever heard how much credit Clinton gets for the '90s economy?
Ever heard how much credit Reagan gets for "ending the Cold War," when the Soviets' massive internal problems that had actually been building for decades?
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
@ImmortalSynn im not gonna argue, all i have to say is like him or not, bush was our president and what the demacrats did was disrespectful. he did not deserve to go out like that, and for anyone you booed him, i have no respect for you.
republicanman111 8 months ago
@republicanman111
"he did not deserve to go out like that"
Indeed. Many would contend that he deserved far worse!
ImmortalSynn 8 months ago
Hahahahaha, and the guy we got in sucks just as much, hahahahahaha!!!!!!
Horns9 1 year ago
@Horns9 The guy we have now is the worst. Period.
DeedsResearcher 10 months ago
@DeedsResearcher
Humor us... clarify: "the worst" at what?
ImmortalSynn 10 months ago
@DeedsResearcher your opinion is the idea of the ignorant, uninformed, and undereducated. you're one of the weak minded that's easily brainwashed by the lies of the republican party. i suppose you also support the paul ryan budget plan which will turn medicare into a voucher system, right? i'd hate to see such a great country fall into the hands of the selfish again, and it's ignorant people like yourself who will eventually succeed in letting this happen once more sometime in the future.
scarface115 9 months ago
Love this video. I wish I had been there in person to boo the murdering SOB Bush as he finally left the White House. I was booing him from my living room in Oklahoma.
draceanaqueen 1 year ago
@huskerthad9 Well said. :)
historybuff5341 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn so... you want them dead and your money back? im not being critical, just trying to see where your coming from
luckybeaner777 1 year ago
@luckybeaner777
Ridiculous question. Its fallacy is to imply that they would be had the money not been spent. Though if you want a direct answer to it, then yes, that's a deal I'd take any day.
So would the rest of the general American populace. How do I know? --it's because ACTIONS speak a lot louder than words; and we as a nation have done essentially nil (other than give celebrity lip service) to combat genocide in recent years, relative to other expenditures.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn
1)Because one of us has to be the bigger man. And like i said, we didnt have to agree with all of his decisions, im sure a comprimise could have been made had we all talked it out like human beings rather than let political parties blind our way of thinking
2)Well, responding to the terrorist attacks from Osama bBin-Laden did, it was very unfortunate that things didnt turn out to well.
3)And whats a trillion dollers to a hundred thousand curdish lives being saved from genocide
luckybeaner777 1 year ago
@luckybeaner777
"And whats a trillion dollers to a hundred thousand curdish lives being saved from genocide "
Answer:
something that Americans would **NEVER** willingly pay to save, per se.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@immortalsynn well yes, i realise there are mistakes that could have been avoided. But regardless we as americans should have shown more support rather than hostility. by support i dont mean support every one of his decisions, but the booing was just unacceptable. At the time the decisions made seemed like the right ones, and despite the many negative outcomes, some positives did happen as well.
luckybeaner777 1 year ago
@luckybeaner777
"we as americans should have shown more support"
Uh, WHY? Many felt that this man was leading us to the slaughter. Why "should" they have supported him.
"At the time the decisions made seemed like the right ones"
Um, seemed like that to WHO??
"some positives did happen as well."
And if you would've told the people that we'd spend nearly a *T*rillion producing those "positives," how many would not have then rioted in the streets?
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
i dont think he was the greatest president, but to be honest he did his best. so much stuff happend during his term it was overwhelming. he didnt deserve the booing though, i thought we had more integrity than that.
luckybeaner777 1 year ago
@luckybeaner777
"but to be honest he did his best."
And many felt that his best was nowhere near good enough.
"so much stuff happend during his term it was overwhelming"
And how much of that was a result of him or his people allowing/engineering it to be that way? Who's to say.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
can someone please give me some examples of positive things that GWB accomplished while he was in the white house ? i look forward to hearing from someone.
MSG685 1 year ago
@MSG685 Well for one, he passed a tax cut that even Obama has conceded "now is not the time to repeal" and the nations around the world had a fear of us... Don't get me wrong, I'm no Bush fan at all but to hate Bush and love Obama simply proves how big of a sheep someone truly is... The American people are tired of all these dirty politicians (Bush & Obama)
They're all full of it- we were tired of the Dems in 94, then tired of the GOP in 06, now tired of the Dems '10... Pure Stage Acts!
wvutuber 1 year ago
@wvutuber
"that even Obama has conceded "now is not the time to repeal"
Obama's also no master of fiscal strategy either though.
"and the nations around the world had a fear of us."
Sure, but I'd say they feared our instability and disregard for international law/protocol, more than fearing anything.... sorta how the rest of the world fears about N.Korea. And that ain't exactly good company to be in.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
Honestly I voted for Obama because Republicans are full of shit. Take Bush for example. Before Obama even showed his face, as a country we should have threw a party celebrating the fact that Bush will never be president again.
TLJthethird 1 year ago
Bush is responsible for allot of shit in this word
Lamyae101 1 year ago
President Bush was being boo'd because he was a white Republican. WAKE-UP America!!
DarryAZ56 1 year ago
@DarryAZ56 Oh yeah, sure.
MINMICHELE67 1 year ago
i love how when i read arguments about america....people bring up the founding fathers....HELLO the founding fathers supported slavery, opression of women, and racism.
420simpson 1 year ago
Are they saying 'boo' or are they saying 'boourns?'
AGentertainment 1 year ago
One of the best days of the 21st century.
garzj019 1 year ago 11
Patrioct act? FBI has infinite power to enslave any one they perceive as a terrorist.
The Federal Reserve, a private bank, slowly crippling the dollar and enslaving U.S citizens in debt.
North American Union to destroy the U.S constitution, its independence and its soverignty.
Why do people boo? Because the American people are slowly waking up to the truth.
Question 9/11
schlager1983cfh 1 year ago
Obama's sheep have spoken.
christian1600 1 year ago
na na na na hey hey hey goodbye!!!!! lol
garbageday99 1 year ago
the comments on this video are too long! hers a short one
24forpresident 1 year ago
1-20-13 THE END OF AN ERROR
mikegunnut 1 year ago
I'll guarentee you that Obama will be booed too when he leaves office in 2013. Most people have long sobered up from the "Hope, Change, yes we can!" mentality.
tedmccarron 1 year ago
@tedmccarron
For your guarantee to work, the opposition would actually have to come up with someone to give a compelling reason to vote for them... and unfortunately for you, that hasn't yet happened.
History shows us that if they play the "I-have-nothing-to-offer-but-at-least-I'm-not-THAT-GUY" card, they're guaranteed to lose; just like Mondale, Dole, and Kerry did, when their blase campaigns did the same primary tactic. And that's exactly where the Palin/Romney/Newt etc GOP is at right now
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn I'll agree with about Romney; I don't trust him as far as I can fling a stone. Newt has his flaws too. Palin I have more hope for, but it's a reserved hope. What's important is to get real Tea Party types in office, and then have them stick to conservative principals, not sell out to the tax and spend economics that the Bush and the GOP congress of the early 2000s. We need tax cuts followed by deep spending and regulatory cuts to recover like we did in 1920-21.
tedmccarron 1 year ago
@tedmccarron
"and then have them stick to conservative principals, not sell out to the tax and spend economics that the Bush and the GOP congress of the early 2000s."
Unfortunately for that idea, when has the post-Goldwater leadership on the Right actually DONE that?
We're closing in on a half-century, and have never seen them actually accomplish such, or even genuinely seem to intend to.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
It annoyed me then, and annoys me still. But I think no one can deny, Bush earned that response through eight years of disastrous mismanagement of our country. Obama has not proven himself much better in that regard, but the general feedback I hear around me is that he-at least-just seems to not be up to the task, while Bush, or at least some of his staff, seemed to be intentionally lying and hurting people for their own benefit.
dkupke 1 year ago
Bush may have gutted the constitution, but this asswipe treats it as if it never existed.
rockergirl83 1 year ago
@rockergirl83
Really? How... give us some examples.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn I can't put links on here, so I'll send you a message.
rockergirl83 1 year ago
@rockergirl83
And yet, the best you could do was post a shill site called "Obama Hates America (sic) Constitution," with claims so ridiculously easy to disprove that a 5second Google search is all it takes. LOL, brilliant.
That's precisely the reason I didn't delete your pathetic little whine on my channel wall... so anyone reading can see the true (lack of) depth in your mental process. Enjoy. ;)
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn Like I said, my time is much more valuable than to waste it arguing with a leftist PIG like you. Hun, I'll give you plenty more pages and you'll just have to swallow the alarming amount of them proving that people don't like this liberal prick in office, and your asses are going to get handed to you in November. So suck on it.
rockergirl83 1 year ago
@rockergirl83
"Like I said"
You can SAY that a thousand more times, but..........
"my time is much more valuable than to waste it arguing with a leftist PIG like you."
..........actions speak a lot louder than words, and in the event that you're too dimwitted to realize it: you're still doing just that. Idiot. lol
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@rockergirl83 Obama has no regard for the Second and Tenth Amendments.
tedmccarron 1 year ago
@tedmccarron
1) you don't know that, nor probably have anything to back it up other than 2nd-person hearsay
2) even if it were true, who cares... ain't squat he could do about either of them.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn He's been very clear about his stance on gun rights(the Second Amendment); he opposes them. He also openly pushed for and supports Cap & Trade, the government takeover of healthcare, and the stimulus bill, all of which violate the Tenth Amendment.
tedmccarron 1 year ago
@tedmccarron
"he opposes them."
Not all of them. And even if he did, refer back to my point two: who cares, *he* can't do anything about it.
"all of which violate the Tenth Amendment"
Y'think so huh... so then humor us, tell us HOW.
It's one thing to repeat Fringe right talking points... let's see if you can break 'em down and explain. We'll wait, take all the google-time you need. This oughta be rich.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn I'd have to disagree with your contention that Obama has no control over wheteher or not he chooses to follow or not follow the Second and Tenth amndments. He has total power to decide which course he's going to pursue. For instance, the stimulus bill violates the Tenth Amendment. Obama brought the bill forth and pushed for it, and eventually signed it into law. No one forced him to propose or sign into law the stimulus bill, he did it on his own, happily. He could have vetoed.
tedmccarron 1 year ago
@tedmccarron
"your contention that Obama has no control over wheteher or not he chooses to follow or not follow the Second and Tenth amndments."
Wouldn't I have actually had to HAVE/STATE such a position, first? LOL
"For instance, the stimulus bill violates the Tenth Amendment."
As stated in my last post to you, you can claim that all you want, but it's not going to make it true. So let's try this again, HOW does it do so? Ignore me again, and lose your ability to post here.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn I could understand threatening to remove my posting ability if I was being overly obnoxious, but in this case? I felt that I DID respond to what you asked, but I'll try again. Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution lists the powers that Congress has. The Tenth Amendment says that anything not listed as one of those powers is prohibited. Therefore the Stimulus bill, Obamacare, and Cap & Trade are all unContistutional because they violate the Tenth Amendment. I'm out of room...
tedmccarron 1 year ago
@tedmccarron
"but in this case?"
I don't like being ignored if I ask someone a question.
But now I see: your rationale is so (over)simplistic that I was actually just giving you too much credit, as in "that couldn't possibly be your answer."
That said: the general broadness of Article1Sec8 alone ensures that "your" claims are going nowhere. And even then, state coercion via highway (etc) funds essentially ensure the states will go with it, despite hyperbole to the contrary.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn Honestly, about 80% of our Federal government right now violates the Tenth Amendment, very probably the highway funds too. Article I Section 8 does talk about building "post roads" for postal purposes, so that area is a little foggy. I'm pretty sure the founding fathers today would have removed that section and pushed for state control over all roads.
tedmccarron 1 year ago
@tedmccarron
"Honestly, about 80% of our Federal government right now violates the Tenth Amendment,"
And 79.999% of that probably doesn't stand a chance in hell of getting repealed, barring anything short of a dissolving of the union... so why live in a fantasy world about the new stuff being magically undone by the vote-panderers that are Congress? How much luck have they had rescinding pan-national rights/grants over the last 50yrs hmmm?
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@tedmccarron The 10th Amendment only reserves "powers not delegated" to the federal govt to the states; not "powers not EXPRESSLY delegated." This was a key change from Article 2 of the Articles of Confederation, which provided that states retained "every Power... which is not by this confederation EXPRESSLY delegated to the United States."
Just as the 9th Am. recognizes implied rights, the 10th Am. (& the Necessary & Proper Clause) recognizes implied (non-enumerated) federal powers.
AboveAllNations 1 year ago
Reporter bitch commenting that it was bad form shows who owns the press. Bush gutted our constitution and broke our bank. Thanks you little prick.
holajim 1 year ago
@holajim
Get a clue, lol. The one who said that was Chris Matthews, who is in no way/form/fashion a Bush supporter.
And the thing is, he's right-- it *is* bad form. But then again, Bush deserved it. Cut the dude some slack.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn I cut no traitor to our Republic any slack. You can if you like.
holajim 1 year ago
@holajim
Unfortunately for that megalomaniacal sense of self-importance... what you or I would do is sorta immaterial to this case-- considering that he was, well, cut a complete and total amount of slack.
Sad, yes. But that's the reality of our Republic.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
you deserve that walk to shame, you faggots, now go back to texas, get back on that bottle and just DIE!
surnamematt 1 year ago
Bush was so happy at start :D
BobixXxBJ 1 year ago
It's a bunch of dumb people booing cause they think it's some type of sporting event, president bush left much better then the Clinton admin they cause over 100,000 dollars worth of damage including removing the w from every computer keyboard
TheKentuckykid9513 1 year ago
All those stupid niggers don't know shit about politics. We already know why the voted for Obama.
freakylocz14 1 year ago
@freakylocz14
Good lord, grow up. And instead of worrying how much another demographic knows about politics, perhaps you should study up a bit on basic percentages. Even if every minority in the USA voted in unison for Obama (which didn't happen by a longshot), it still wouldn't have been enough for him to win by the margins that he did. Not even close
So whether you want to admit it or not, the majority of ALL people in this country wanted him as our President: Red, Yellow, Black, AND WHITE
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn Really, when 90% of blacks voted for him. And the figure's for Kerry were at least 10-15% less in 2004.
freakylocz14 1 year ago
@freakylocz14
uh, "yes really"...... particularly seeing as 100% of Blacks in this country only make up 12% of the national population. Now factor in the fact that nowhere near that amount are 1) adult 2) registered voters, who 3) actually showed up at the polls; and you'll understand exactly why the fact that "90% of Blacks voting for him" would've had nil effect on anything, unless a huge number of every other kind of person, especially Whites, hadn't done the same.
Get it now?
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn Not just 90% of voting blacks, but also well over 50% of other minority groups voted for blacks. And it doesn't matter how much of an effect they had, I wasn't claiming the results would be different, I'm just pointing to the fact that blacks voted for him merely because of his race.
freakylocz14 1 year ago
@freakylocz14
"I'm just pointing to the fact that blacks voted for him merely because of his race"
I'm aware. And you're correct, many did. My question to you in all of this is: so what? What's your point in even bringing that up?
The reason I ask, is because there's also plenty of people who voted AGAINST him because of his race. And there's plenty of people who voted both for and against him who couldn't care less what color he is. So again, what's the point in your bringing that up?
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn Becuase people defend those who voted for him because of his race while criticizing those who did not vote for him based on his race.
freakylocz14 1 year ago
@freakylocz14
Who here was doing that though?
Don't get me wrong, I got why you put it up there before ever saying a word to you... the manner in which you did so made it obvious that you were doing it as a defensive/coping mechanism.
And that's fine, and you have a right to do so-- but I'm just hoping that some of my questions to you here, have prompted a bit of personal insight in that regard.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@freakylocz14 Yeah and at the same time people didnt vote for him because of his race. Also he won cause thousands of younger whites voted for him...
DarPower1 1 year ago
Boehner is like let me get the hell out of here! Not a Bush supporter, but it was wrong to boo him, but people who do the same when Obama leaves off if his successor is a Republican.
CoolScoobydoo 1 year ago
he has shoes thrown at him, he done nothing but bad, that is the appropriate way to go
jehaddrubi 1 year ago
If i think about bush i think about war, lies and inside jobs
Lamyae101 1 year ago
as much as i dislike bush i sort of feel bad for him, given his lack of power against the Republican party, im sure he wouldnt be such a bad person to just get hammered and do coke with..
bobrec3GTI 1 year ago
I feel bad for Bush. He doesn't deserve this treatment.
XtreemMetalMan 1 year ago
@XtreemMetalMan
Indeed, he deserved far worse.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn No he didn't! His Presidency was over the least they could do was show some respect. Under Bush's administration, there were no more terrorist attacks in America! We were safe under Bush!
XtreemMetalMan 1 year ago
@XtreemMetalMan
"the least they could do was show some respect. "
Respect is something to be EARNED, not GRANTED. Bush had done nothing to earn their respect, and plenty to lose it.
"We were safe under Bush! "
There were a grand total of zero under Bush41, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, etc etc as well: gonna give them the same credit? Ridiculous. For all you know "the terrorists" may not have even been planning to do anything else, why give credit to Bush?
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn He earned our respect. He kept us safe! Under Obama's current administration there were many internal terrorist threats, possible attacks, and deaths: Forthood massacre 13 dead, possible Christmas Day Bomber could have killed a whole plane, and the botched Times Square bombing! But none under Bush (after 9/11) And you say the terrorists might not do anything else? Fool! Jihad is not just a one step process of course they would try to do other things!
XtreemMetalMan 1 year ago
@XtreemMetalMan
"He kept us safe!"
Instead of repeating that over and over again, as some kind of mantra, tell us: how did he "keep us safe" when 3000 people died under his watch, after his administration received PLENTY of forewarning?
"Under Obama's current administration"
Why are you trying to bring Obama into this to defend Bush? I don't recall saying anything about no terrorism under Obama, because I'm well aware that there has been.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@XtreemMetalMan
"And you say the terrorists might not do anything else? "
Uh no, I didn't. You said that. Stop trying to put words in my mouth to suit your point.
I said they might not have been planning anything else, for within the time frame that you're giving Bush credit for. Planning for 9/11 went as far back as Project Bojinka and later the Kenya bombings. It was years between actions. You gonna give Clinton credit for "keeping us safe" within that time frame? Get real.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn Why would I give Clinton credit?
XtreemMetalMan 1 year ago
@XtreemMetalMan
Well, you're giving Bush completely unmerited credit... why not make it a free4all? LOL
Anyway, point being: at the end of the day, only a fool gives someone credit for an intangible negative.
I mean hell, with THAT mentality: I could hire a half-dozen Marlboro men, send 'em to the middle east for a month, and if nothing happens I can start going around saying "I kept you all safe last month!"... and some idiots out there would actually BUY it!
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn Well, looking from your perspective; why boo em? He didn't actually do anything bad. He deserves clapping at least. Or at least a tone of respect!
XtreemMetalMan 1 year ago
@XtreemMetalMan
How does failing to prevent the biggest terrorist massacre in our country's history, after TONS of warning, quality in your mind of "not doing anything bad"??
Starting two wars, worth a trillion dollars, with no purpose?
Scapegoating gays and Mexicans to achieve votes, but then doing nothing about/to/for either?
This man was incompetence made manifest. He deserves the hangman's noose, not clapping.
ImmortalSynn 1 year ago
@ImmortalSynn Haha! There was no warning about a possible terrorist attack, if there was then airport security would have been tighter and they would not have let 10 muslim men on board. There was a purpose to go into Afghanistand and Iraq! Iraq; to finish his father's work by overthrowng Saddam. Afghanistan; Many Taliban and Al-Quadea militants were stationed there and the Afghans were glad about 9/11! You want to hang a former US President? You sick bastard. What war crimes did he oversee?
XtreemMetalMan 1 year ago