Marino IS the greatest QB in history. Hands down. He never had the running game or the defense that other QB's or teams had. Super Bowl rings do not make a great QB. Winning the Super Bowl is "a total team accomplishment". You could take Marino & put him on the 49ers Super Bowl teams of the 1980's & he'd have those 4 SB wins. Because the QB level of play does not diminish. But, would Montana be able to keep the Dolphins competitive at 8-8 or 9-7 a lot of years like Marino did?
Montana went to the Chiefs and beat the 49ers. Those stats Marino put up are slowly being beaten by great QB's in the game today and Marino won't even be in the top ten in ten years.
As being from New England, I can not disagree. This guy was simply the best QB by a country mile. No one close. Never mobile, never a running game, never a dominant D. This pained me to watch, but WOW, he could barley walk...
Indigo Warrior..."if marino played now he would be passing 100000 yards a season" so true. The successful teams nowadays (Packers, Saints, Patriots, Colts when Manning is healthy) throw the ball, have little or no running game and weak or average D. Does that describe any team you know? Sounds a lot like the Miami teams Marino played on. The league now is tailor-made for Marino. If he was playing now and had Duper, Clayton and Nat Moore you are looking at 6,000 yards and 55 touchdowns.
@IndigoWarrior12 ou are on crack not even a gayfish fan but young is garbage, Elway was the best QB Denver ever had but He's not that great, Brady lol look at his team compared to marinos, and Rogers team is the same deal put Rogers in Dolphins team and good luck with his great recievers gone, and BledSoe and Boomer over marino? your either think rings make a QB great instantly or a jets/pats/bills fan or a 15 year old who's barely been around to watch football. Football dan lol
@VanillaCookie1337 true but Manning had a mediocre defense and he was new to the league against dan marinos experience... Super Bowl wins: Manning-1/2, Marino 0/1. And The best win championships. so i guess he cant be the BEST. he was good though.
@xKINGFISH are you implying marinos defense wasn't mediocre? Colts still had a better running game scratch that put yourself in a wheel chair and you got yourself a Dolphin RB back then, feels good right?
Well they should be. You made me pull the stats. Clayton 592 receptions, 8,974 yards, 84 TD..Swann 336 receptions, 5462 yards, 51 TD. You tell me who should be in the HOF. Swann was on 4 Superbowl winning teams. Great defense, Steel Curtain, Franco Harris, Etc. Clayton's Dolphins, No running game, one of worst defenses ever so no Super Bowls. Also hs personal reputation is not very good. Bottom lineon put up if Clayton put up the same stats on the thse Steeler teams he'd be in the HOF too
Why did they click the extra point outside the hash marks? Why didn't they kick it from between the hash marks. I'm guessing that it's because they didn't want to kick it in the dirt.
Jim Plunkett, Mark Rypein, Jeff Hostelter,Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson all won as many Superbowls as Johnny U (1). Troy Aikman won 3 for God sake! Think about that the next time someone says it's all about the rings! Also the 49ers didn't exactly stop winning after Montanna left but look what happened to the Dolphins without Marino!
ummm you could put jim kelly, warren moon, or even bernie kosar on those niners teams and theyd all have multiple rings or would they? no cause they werent joe montana. marino best qb ever huh? it all comes down to rings.
I'm a huge New England fan and I love watching the current Dolphins play, But I was only about 4 years old when this video actually happened. I will say though, Marino was one of the most phenomenal QB's that ever played. Go Fins! ..and Pats ;)
It's the most important position on a football team. How is it possible it's been 10 years since Marino retired and we still have no QB? I am stick and tired of this.......
Such a great game!!! I was in NE going to school at UMass and I was talking smack to EVERYBODY!! He did em DIRTY....all I have to say is 4th and 5.......TOUCHDOWN!!!
Hands down best QB ever. What's this best PASSER ever thing? What the hell else is a QB measured by? Of course leadership too. He had that as well. I've never heard anyone say anything about being the best at handing the ball off. LOL. Being mobile is fine. And Marino was mobile where it mattered - in the pocket. Best passer ever? BEST QB EVER! PERIOD!
Wow look at the confidence in Shula on that fourth down play like it was nothing,he has so much trust and realiability in Marino that he knows he can get the job done.
Yes! What cythera said. This is probably my favorite Marino game ever. In addition to coming back from the Achilles, he had a lousy preseason. Plenty of talk that he wasn't ready and might not ever be. Weak running game, mediocre OL, so-so receivers and a porous defense, and Marino delivers.
@mikewattdisciple So so recievers in Fryar, Mcduffie and Ingram? Keith Jackson too as TE! What were they smoking saying that there? Seriously. I see the rest, but his recievers were dope.
@onblock7 He certainly never had anybody as good as Jerry Rice, Cris Carter, Michael Irvin, Andre Reed, or Sterling Sharpe to throw to. The Marks bros along with Nat Moore were very good, but these guys were extremely undersized for NFL receivers; each guy was only 5'9. Additionally, weak running games forced the Dolphins to pass constantly. While this padded Marino's stats a bit, defenses didn't really have to worry about defending against the run, and if this hadn't been the case...
@MrJack83124 Yeah they were undersized but they were really good like you said, some of those catches they made were crazy and they had speed! Marino even says he could not have done it all without them (I agree if he had those guys you mention though he would have benefitted alot). Andre Reed came on later in his career, actually at the time up until later Clayton used to have better numbers! Irving Fryar, Ingram and Mcduffie were nice though, Keith Jackson too, thats no slouch either.
@onblock7 Clayton did have better numbers than Reed, but Reed was part of a much more complete team; the Bills had a running game and didn't have to throw so much. Also, I think Reed came up bigger in big games. Also, stats aren't everything; the Marks bros have better stats than Stallworth and Swann, but Stallworth and Swann are the ones who are in the hall of fame. I do hope, though, that the Marks bros eventually make it in. It would be great to see them get inducted together.
@MrJack83124 Your points are all correct! Good post. I wish Irving Fryard had played his whole career with a Marino as well, can you imagine the numbers he would have put up? That would have been nice to see. On Swann and Stallworth agree too, Superbowls had some to do with that though (Them getting in). Paul Warfield from the 70's as well is in but only hit 1000yds once! More of a running game then. I can't imagine what they would have done in a pass happy era.
@MrJack83124 The receivers you mentioned are all great players, but to just dismiss Clayton and Duper as not being in their class I think is wrong. I think 18,000 yards and 143 touchdowns speak for themselves.
@guyinfl99 but would you say that Marino's group of receivers were as good Montana's, Aikman's, Warner's, Young's, Bradshaw's? The only Dolphins wide receiver I would rank with the receivers I previously mentioned would be Paul Warfield.
@MrJack83124 We're gonna have to agree to disagree cause my answer is yes with the exception of Jerry Rice. Duper, Clayton, Fryer, Mcduffie vs. Stallworth / Swan, Irvin / Harper, Bruce / Holt - just pull up the stats. Don't get me wrong, I think Marino was the greatest QB ever, but to say he did it with a bunch of scrubs I do not think is correct.
@guyinfl99 I never said he did it with scrubs. I just think that he did more with receivers who weren't quite as good as some others...Stallworth and Swann are HOFers; I wonder if Clayton and Duper will ever be considered.
Inconsistant offensive line, mediocre receivers and a nonexistant tailback but Dan the Man could STILL carry the team. If he would've had a team around him like Elways and Montana, Marino would've won at least two Superbowls. It's a shame he never did because it has always left him out of the "best QB ever" debate. He may not be the best all around QB ever, but he was not dount the best passer. He had a stronger arm than Elway, Montana, Young, Favre, Manning, Brady and Warner..
Man My dad used to be INSANE when a dolphins game came on. He has calmed down alot. If Dolphins won that night, it was good dinners and lots of laughs, if they lost, well, you never really knew what happend when they lost, because you left and went to your friends house for about 8 hours.
@Dontwealldigmusic reminds me of how I wouldn't talk to anyone in my family for like a week when the Heat would lose against the knicks in the playoffs. I used to blame the losses on them and their negative energy. Thank god ive calmed down too.
@jixer009 especially our the dolphins now. Freaking hate Sparanos conservative bullshit. You can tell the way he coaches that he never played proffesionally. He always reminded me of that guy who never really got picked to play sports, so he just kinda watched.
I had the pleasure of meeting Gary Stevens (OC) on the bye week in '93. I commented that it must be hard to coach during Marino's Achille's injury. He told me "No way !!!!', that it was MUCH easier, because the QB would actually run the play that was called. Marino, he said, would ignore the coaching staff, draw up a play "in the dirt", and throw a TD pass; Marino had the BEST natural instincts for the game, he said. NO ONE can ever "toss the tater" like Danny Boy did !!! Peace:-)
So many parallels between Marino and Manning. Manning has had slow stretches with Indy like Marino had with Miami in regards to team sucess.. And like Marino, there have been times when Manning has had to carry the entire team on his back. We can "What if" this to death...but bottom line...put in the worst situation with average tools...or lets say, give the Dan a Ford to do a Chevy's job, and he'll come out on top every time due to simply pure God given QB ability. THE GREATEST EVER.
Hands down the best passer of all time. He revolutionized the way the position is played. Two examples that I know of: throwing to the outside shoulder of the WR and throwing the ball prior to the receiver making his break. (Not including the fake spike b/c it happens so rarely)
Fryar that year was a G for us! I loved him as a reciever for us! Can you imagine him his whole career here sides in NE? GOOD LORD he would be one of the best ever and near the top of the charts IN ALL CATEGORIES!
The "winning" argument is not valid. Marino is the best passer of all time, hands down. If he had Montana's supporting cast he would have won 4 super bowls too. The Dolphins never had a team that would have been better than 8-8 without Marino.
If only Marino won as much as Montana. I liked the way he expressed how much he expected to win but Montana was cool as ice. Football will never see an Elite pack of QB like the 90's again! Montana Young Elway Marino Kelly Moon Cunningham Esiason Hebert *Aikman *Favre *Bledsoe *Young guns
There will never be another Dan Marino. He IS the greatest quaterback to ever grace an NFL uniform. The lack of a superbowl ring makes people discredit him, but stats don't lie. Year after year, without a solid running back or a good secondary, Marino continued to keep the Dolphins a formidable contender, and they rarely missed the playoffs. The greatest EVER!!!
I was 10 years old when this happened and it was the first NFL game I ever watched. Amazingly it is still the single best game I have ever seen. I've been hooked on football ever since. Dan is the greatest of all time!
There is little that i miss more than watching Dan play football. I remember watching this game on base in norfolk. This game was a great shootout between dan and drew
being a dolphin fan growing up, i took for granted having marino as our QB, now all i have is memories and youtube vids. what a special era it was for us- having the greatest QB of all time! We miss ya Dan! thanks for the memories!
7Rayo13 you are so right your comment make more sense then all these fools that blame on the team and coach's for the lack of championship caliber skills.
I place blame on the team personell as well. Wayne Huizenga knows shit about football. Don Shula and anyone else involved in football operations should've pushed to sign some key FAs to get the team over the hump.
Amen! brother you sir! know your SHIT! It's really sad people like yourself have more common sense then all the ASSHOLE who think more about the seize of their WALLET then the TEAM success.
which is why my favorite baseball team is the Yankees
people can bitch and moan all they want but at least the owner puts as much money as possible into what he feels can improve the product on the field Sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt but the team at least has a chance to not only compete but to win a title. As competitive as the Dolphins were they were never gonna win a SB unless things fell in place perfectly, they never did
average O-Line (Webb & Sims were great but that's it)
barely any defense for almost his whole career (the great defensive core of Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor, Patrick Surtain & Sam Madison were all drafted from 96 - 98).
The year after Marino retired Lamar Smith rushed for over 1,000 yards, and the Dolphins lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs. do you think had Marino stayed at least one more year they would've went further?
Defence is the reason Marino never won the bowl! Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas and all the Bills owned them for years.......its a shame. The dolphins couldnt stop anyone in 20+ years.
If he had a GOOD WR core he would at least had 4 rings like JOE MONTANA, It reminds me of BARRY SANDERS no OL and yet he made a miracle when he touch the ball plus I never quit understood why they didn't when for big time names at WR position at that time for Marino.
Why did the Dolphins never get Marino a top WR after the Marks
Wayne Huizenga
the same cheap money hungry bastard that fielded two World Series champion Marlins and broke up the teams the year after.
Huizenga was more concerned about making money then winning a Super Bowl. as long as the Dolphins stayed competive and fans bought tickets and merchandise he was happy to keep them where they were
I said that in some of my previous posts. as for the players you mentioned except for McDuffie there werent with the Dolphins for that long. Not enough time to build chemistry when all three were gone in three years and Marino was out for a good chunk of the '94 season. also while those receivers were good they werent the gamebreaking receivers that Marino wouldve needed to win without a running game or defense
@7Rayo13 Oh no doubt he didnt have a hall of fame receiver throughout his career, which is amazing in of itself. But he did have some damn good all pros. But even with a hall of fame receiver, it wasnt going to happen without a D and a star RB. You can score 30+ points and it should be good enough to win, unless the other team scores 40+ which seemed to happen too often with those Dolphins.
@7Rayo13 A good example was that playoff game they lost in Buffalo where the final score was 44-34. It was either that, or his receivers were blanketed and his team was dared to run on them. Like in the Super Bowl against the 49ers, or the AFC Championship game against the Bills. Both those factors always seemed to drag him down. Such a damn shame. I was a huge fan.
@7Rayo13 Yes but Fryar was a pro bowler a few times and check his all time career numbers, he could be in the HOF with those numbers, he was flat out sick! He was an all pro a few times. Ingram was good as well! Keith Jackson is one of the better tight ends IMO to play the game! He had OJ as you said, but damn man he needed a D and a running game as you said, true there.
@devilcharm So Duper and Clayton were not good recievers? You just toss them out as not good now? Did you see them play? They were pro bowlers man! They were sick! Fryar was great as well! Ingram was good but not the notch they were in. How can you say he never had good recievers? Maybe not a good RB or D to get him there, but it was not the recievers, he always had the numbers and them, just not much D and RG to help him! He needed a Ronnie Brown and RICKY! Not recievers.
@onblock7 I agree. These people who are saying Duper and Clayton were bad or mediocore receivers are just ignorant....all you have to do is look at their stats. Clayton was one of the most feared and savy receivers ever. I was actually at this game and it was one of the most exciting games ever played. Marino and Bledsoe both were on fire.
Dan Marino was my all-time favorite quaterback. Dan Marino was my all-time favorite football player. He was awesome. The quick release, the laser arm, the pin point accuracy, the pocket presence, and the winner mentality all made Marino the greatest ever.
Marino had six games where he threw for 4 or more TD's, a feat tied only by Peyton Manning in '04. When Danny was on, he was like a force of nature - unstoppable.
This was Marino's first game back after missing much of the 1993 season with a ruptured Achilles tendon. There was a lot of talk that he wasn't ready to start, maybe even his time had passed. And what did he do? Only threw five TDs, plus the game-winner on 4th down. He was the best ever.
@cythera4 he would off had more touchdowns and probaly 4k more yards to his career and he only played for 17 years it took farve 19 to getto were dan was and farve playing for 20 years now
Take that gay Patriot and Tom Brady fans. The Patriots wouldn't have had to cheat if they had this guy; also they'd have more championships than anyone and would repeat every year.
Absolutely. Rule 11, Section 3, Article 1 of the NFL rule book:
"After a touchdown, the scoring team is allowed a Try. This Try is an attempt to score one or two additional points, during one scrimmage down with the spot of snap:
a) anywhere between the inbounds lines and
b) which is also two or more yards from the defensive team's goal line.
So Shula could have even backed it up a few more yards to give Stoyanovich a better kicking angle.
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. And I also believe this was the first season that the NFL allowed you to go for 2 PTS. Thats cool with the NFL Rule Book there.
Landshark was a running joke on SNL years and years ago, where Chevy Chase made fun of JAWS by knocking on the door, and when the person asked "Who is it?" He'd say...."Landshark."
A point well made. And also consider that during Dan's record-setting year, he played all but one game outdoors. Manning, who does deserve great credit, played over half of his in a controlled, indoor setting.
I'm sure you'll agree with me that football was meant to be played outdoors, amidst the elements, with no delays for rain or sleet or snow.
In other words, if you care for the playing surface with a vacuum cleaner, it's not a football field.
And Marino didnt play against guys like Mario Williams -6'-7", 300 pounds, 10 percent body fat, running a 4.7 40. The NFL is so much bigger, faster, and stronger than what it was back when Dan played. Also Marino is ranked 2nd with the least about of times sacked in his career. You know nothing.
And all those guys were the biggest players back in the day. But their size is what every player in the NFL is. Compare sizes with Taylor and Peppers.
Dude, LT (the original) was high off his ass on coke back in the day, scary stuff, it was a different league. I truly think you're mixing up linemen with linebackers.
You don't know shit! True. the NFL is much faster, but the guards are much much faster and stronger as well, so your foolish argument is lacking perspective in that regard.
It's obvious you don't know anything about the game of football, because if you did, you would realize the passing game was much harder back then, due to bump and run rules. The passing game is much more liberal now.
Cannot deny that at all. However, Parcells may have stuck around longer if he had not traded Fryar. Remember, Terry Glenn was drafted (against the 'grocery shopper's' wishes, mind you) as a go to receiver...Bledsoe would have had that in Fryar, who was still effective. Instead, he had the likes of Vincent Brisby, Ray Crittenden, Hassan Graham and Michael Timpson...those guys didn't get it done. No beef my friend...just a revisionist comment.
Marino IS the greatest QB in history. Hands down. He never had the running game or the defense that other QB's or teams had. Super Bowl rings do not make a great QB. Winning the Super Bowl is "a total team accomplishment". You could take Marino & put him on the 49ers Super Bowl teams of the 1980's & he'd have those 4 SB wins. Because the QB level of play does not diminish. But, would Montana be able to keep the Dolphins competitive at 8-8 or 9-7 a lot of years like Marino did?
MegaKAL13 3 weeks ago
I don't think so, because Montana never had the arm Marino has.
MegaKAL13 3 weeks ago
@MegaKAL13
Ryan Leaf and Jemarcus Russel had great arms.
jessejubilee 2 weeks ago
Montana went to the Chiefs and beat the 49ers. Those stats Marino put up are slowly being beaten by great QB's in the game today and Marino won't even be in the top ten in ten years.
jessejubilee 2 weeks ago
As being from New England, I can not disagree. This guy was simply the best QB by a country mile. No one close. Never mobile, never a running game, never a dominant D. This pained me to watch, but WOW, he could barley walk...
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Indigo Warrior..."if marino played now he would be passing 100000 yards a season" so true. The successful teams nowadays (Packers, Saints, Patriots, Colts when Manning is healthy) throw the ball, have little or no running game and weak or average D. Does that describe any team you know? Sounds a lot like the Miami teams Marino played on. The league now is tailor-made for Marino. If he was playing now and had Duper, Clayton and Nat Moore you are looking at 6,000 yards and 55 touchdowns.
hornet069 1 month ago
@IndigoWarrior12 "if marino played now he would be passing 100000 yards a season" - NFL Today
VanillaCookie1337 1 month ago
@IndigoWarrior12 ou are on crack not even a gayfish fan but young is garbage, Elway was the best QB Denver ever had but He's not that great, Brady lol look at his team compared to marinos, and Rogers team is the same deal put Rogers in Dolphins team and good luck with his great recievers gone, and BledSoe and Boomer over marino? your either think rings make a QB great instantly or a jets/pats/bills fan or a 15 year old who's barely been around to watch football. Football dan lol
VanillaCookie1337 1 month ago
If Dan Marino won a superbowl i would have twice as much respect for him...since he never did that i believe Peyton Manning is the best.
xKINGFISH 1 month ago
@xKINGFISH Manning had more weapons then marino who never had a running game to m that and marino beat him 2 out of 3 times even at the age he was
VanillaCookie1337 1 month ago
@VanillaCookie1337 true but Manning had a mediocre defense and he was new to the league against dan marinos experience... Super Bowl wins: Manning-1/2, Marino 0/1. And The best win championships. so i guess he cant be the BEST. he was good though.
xKINGFISH 1 month ago
@xKINGFISH are you implying marinos defense wasn't mediocre? Colts still had a better running game scratch that put yourself in a wheel chair and you got yourself a Dolphin RB back then, feels good right?
VanillaCookie1337 1 month ago
Wait, what season did dolphins lose every game?
therapman92 1 month ago
Irving Fryar sure does have a nice haircut.
leblanc22 1 month ago
Only with Marino would going for it on a 4th and 5 be considered a good play
serenadesilhout 2 months ago
@serenadesilhout Only with Marino would going for it on a 4th and 5....from his own 7 yard line...be considered a good play.
SCE2AUX 1 month ago
dan was the best ever
rob13447 2 months ago
@IndigoWarrior12 Boomer Esiason? HAHAHAHAHA Just stop. Favre is 10x than Esiason. but Marino 150x better as a QB than all of them.
NightmareTeeVee 2 months ago
Well they should be. You made me pull the stats. Clayton 592 receptions, 8,974 yards, 84 TD..Swann 336 receptions, 5462 yards, 51 TD. You tell me who should be in the HOF. Swann was on 4 Superbowl winning teams. Great defense, Steel Curtain, Franco Harris, Etc. Clayton's Dolphins, No running game, one of worst defenses ever so no Super Bowls. Also hs personal reputation is not very good. Bottom lineon put up if Clayton put up the same stats on the thse Steeler teams he'd be in the HOF too
guyinfl99 2 months ago
Why did they click the extra point outside the hash marks? Why didn't they kick it from between the hash marks. I'm guessing that it's because they didn't want to kick it in the dirt.
psx2514 2 months ago
Tom Brady was like 17 when this happened. Haha
182Burritos 2 months ago
If your a fan of arenaball and shootouts, then this is one of the greatest games of all time
FRSFreeStateES 2 months ago
Jim Plunkett, Mark Rypein, Jeff Hostelter,Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson all won as many Superbowls as Johnny U (1). Troy Aikman won 3 for God sake! Think about that the next time someone says it's all about the rings! Also the 49ers didn't exactly stop winning after Montanna left but look what happened to the Dolphins without Marino!
fins142 3 months ago
dan the golden age for the dolphins now we in the dark age.......:(
CydonianKnights11 3 months ago
Dan Marino, best QB ever. And he's playing against one in the top 10 best in this game. Drew Bledsoe.
connorqb17 3 months ago
ummm you could put jim kelly, warren moon, or even bernie kosar on those niners teams and theyd all have multiple rings or would they? no cause they werent joe montana. marino best qb ever huh? it all comes down to rings.
entragin99 3 months ago
I'm a huge New England fan and I love watching the current Dolphins play, But I was only about 4 years old when this video actually happened. I will say though, Marino was one of the most phenomenal QB's that ever played. Go Fins! ..and Pats ;)
cobaltandlies 4 months ago
BTW I agree 100% on the running game, no doubt about that at all that was a huge problem and all they had to do was key on DAN all game long.
onblock7 4 months ago
is that jim lampley?
croplaya 4 months ago
Henne should watch marino highlights and take notes
187MIAMIBOY 4 months ago
The ballpark we Dade County tax payers payed for. Waste of money.
rokassan 4 months ago
17 years later and the Marlins still fucks up our field early in the season. Cant wait until their ballpark is finished.
csb04d 5 months ago
@csb04d Total money wasted.
fan attendance will still be the same after the ballpark opens, nobody gives a damn about the marlins.
laughingbad 4 months ago
@laughingbad yea ur right. and it is in Overtown... fuck that shit. I dont want to be mugged
csb04d 4 months ago
Greatest QB I ever watched.
dolphinbuc 5 months ago
until we get a franchise qb we will never do any damage in the playoffs hoping we even get there. damn i miss marino!
dolphinzrwj1 5 months ago in playlist 94-95'Dan Marino MIAMI DOLPHINS 94-95 Highlights
@dolphinzrwj1 I agree. No QB no winning season,no playoffs,no Superbowl. I miss Dan just as bad as you.
rokassan 4 months ago
People fail to realize the Dan had the quickest release!
tim23tom23 5 months ago
Can we get another franchise QB already?
It's the most important position on a football team. How is it possible it's been 10 years since Marino retired and we still have no QB? I am stick and tired of this.......
bio2020 5 months ago
Such a great game!!! I was in NE going to school at UMass and I was talking smack to EVERYBODY!! He did em DIRTY....all I have to say is 4th and 5.......TOUCHDOWN!!!
hoops51dwc 6 months ago
Fuck the faggot Patriots.
KellyBix87 6 months ago
Today's game would have suited him even better. Scary.
MrTHCenhanced 8 months ago
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@MrTHCenhanced Oh yeah, you are right! NO DOUBT.
onblock7 6 months ago
Hands down best QB ever. What's this best PASSER ever thing? What the hell else is a QB measured by? Of course leadership too. He had that as well. I've never heard anyone say anything about being the best at handing the ball off. LOL. Being mobile is fine. And Marino was mobile where it mattered - in the pocket. Best passer ever? BEST QB EVER! PERIOD!
zoeerashelle 8 months ago
goddamn Marino was a beast!
blake102584 9 months ago
at this point 5 people can kiss my a>s!
dumbPEPSsuck 10 months ago
@dumbPEPSsuck Those 5 people are Jets fans
Potandthekettle 8 months ago
Wow look at the confidence in Shula on that fourth down play like it was nothing,he has so much trust and realiability in Marino that he knows he can get the job done.
boskey10 11 months ago
Yes! What cythera said. This is probably my favorite Marino game ever. In addition to coming back from the Achilles, he had a lousy preseason. Plenty of talk that he wasn't ready and might not ever be. Weak running game, mediocre OL, so-so receivers and a porous defense, and Marino delivers.
mikewattdisciple 1 year ago
@mikewattdisciple So so recievers in Fryar, Mcduffie and Ingram? Keith Jackson too as TE! What were they smoking saying that there? Seriously. I see the rest, but his recievers were dope.
onblock7 6 months ago
@onblock7 he had good receivers at this point, but his receivers in his final four years or so were pretty average.
MrJack83124 5 months ago
@MrJack83124 Thats true, but Mcduffie was still pretty good spite the lack of other recievers. I agree on that last 4 years.
onblock7 5 months ago
@onblock7 He certainly never had anybody as good as Jerry Rice, Cris Carter, Michael Irvin, Andre Reed, or Sterling Sharpe to throw to. The Marks bros along with Nat Moore were very good, but these guys were extremely undersized for NFL receivers; each guy was only 5'9. Additionally, weak running games forced the Dolphins to pass constantly. While this padded Marino's stats a bit, defenses didn't really have to worry about defending against the run, and if this hadn't been the case...
MrJack83124 4 months ago
@MrJack83124 Yeah they were undersized but they were really good like you said, some of those catches they made were crazy and they had speed! Marino even says he could not have done it all without them (I agree if he had those guys you mention though he would have benefitted alot). Andre Reed came on later in his career, actually at the time up until later Clayton used to have better numbers! Irving Fryar, Ingram and Mcduffie were nice though, Keith Jackson too, thats no slouch either.
onblock7 4 months ago
@onblock7 Clayton did have better numbers than Reed, but Reed was part of a much more complete team; the Bills had a running game and didn't have to throw so much. Also, I think Reed came up bigger in big games. Also, stats aren't everything; the Marks bros have better stats than Stallworth and Swann, but Stallworth and Swann are the ones who are in the hall of fame. I do hope, though, that the Marks bros eventually make it in. It would be great to see them get inducted together.
MrJack83124 4 months ago
@MrJack83124 Your points are all correct! Good post. I wish Irving Fryard had played his whole career with a Marino as well, can you imagine the numbers he would have put up? That would have been nice to see. On Swann and Stallworth agree too, Superbowls had some to do with that though (Them getting in). Paul Warfield from the 70's as well is in but only hit 1000yds once! More of a running game then. I can't imagine what they would have done in a pass happy era.
onblock7 4 months ago
@MrJack83124 The receivers you mentioned are all great players, but to just dismiss Clayton and Duper as not being in their class I think is wrong. I think 18,000 yards and 143 touchdowns speak for themselves.
guyinfl99 3 months ago
@guyinfl99 but would you say that Marino's group of receivers were as good Montana's, Aikman's, Warner's, Young's, Bradshaw's? The only Dolphins wide receiver I would rank with the receivers I previously mentioned would be Paul Warfield.
MrJack83124 2 months ago
@MrJack83124 We're gonna have to agree to disagree cause my answer is yes with the exception of Jerry Rice. Duper, Clayton, Fryer, Mcduffie vs. Stallworth / Swan, Irvin / Harper, Bruce / Holt - just pull up the stats. Don't get me wrong, I think Marino was the greatest QB ever, but to say he did it with a bunch of scrubs I do not think is correct.
guyinfl99 2 months ago
@guyinfl99 I never said he did it with scrubs. I just think that he did more with receivers who weren't quite as good as some others...Stallworth and Swann are HOFers; I wonder if Clayton and Duper will ever be considered.
MrJack83124 2 months ago
Dan Marino was the best QB in NFL history.
reedvid 1 year ago 29
@reedvid He still is.
JesseFehr28 4 months ago
@reedvid Was? Dan Marino IS the best QB in NFL History.
xSnoMayn 3 months ago 16
@xSnoMayn Joe Montana IS its wut my dad says (im 14 so dont hate ive nver seen him play)
36firerahul 2 days ago
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Dan Marino was the best Quarterback that DIDNT win a super bowl
metsndgiantslover11 1 month ago
Inconsistant offensive line, mediocre receivers and a nonexistant tailback but Dan the Man could STILL carry the team. If he would've had a team around him like Elways and Montana, Marino would've won at least two Superbowls. It's a shame he never did because it has always left him out of the "best QB ever" debate. He may not be the best all around QB ever, but he was not dount the best passer. He had a stronger arm than Elway, Montana, Young, Favre, Manning, Brady and Warner..
SexSteakSoda 1 year ago
damn fryar has a huuggee forehead
187MIAMIBOY 1 year ago
dan the man marino go miami
chasebanner85 1 year ago
Man My dad used to be INSANE when a dolphins game came on. He has calmed down alot. If Dolphins won that night, it was good dinners and lots of laughs, if they lost, well, you never really knew what happend when they lost, because you left and went to your friends house for about 8 hours.
Dontwealldigmusic 1 year ago
@Dontwealldigmusic reminds me of how I wouldn't talk to anyone in my family for like a week when the Heat would lose against the knicks in the playoffs. I used to blame the losses on them and their negative energy. Thank god ive calmed down too.
jam714 9 months ago
I LOVE IT BACK WHEN TEAMS HAD BALLS AND ACTUALLY WENT FOR IT ON 3RD AND 5! FOOTBALLS GOTTEN SOFT EVERYONE PLAYS IT SAFE!
jixer009 1 year ago
@jixer009 especially our the dolphins now. Freaking hate Sparanos conservative bullshit. You can tell the way he coaches that he never played proffesionally. He always reminded me of that guy who never really got picked to play sports, so he just kinda watched.
Dontwealldigmusic 1 year ago
I had the pleasure of meeting Gary Stevens (OC) on the bye week in '93. I commented that it must be hard to coach during Marino's Achille's injury. He told me "No way !!!!', that it was MUCH easier, because the QB would actually run the play that was called. Marino, he said, would ignore the coaching staff, draw up a play "in the dirt", and throw a TD pass; Marino had the BEST natural instincts for the game, he said. NO ONE can ever "toss the tater" like Danny Boy did !!! Peace:-)
binnyman 1 year ago
Its crazy to know that my curret high school football coach played in this game for the patriots...
407Derek 1 year ago
So many parallels between Marino and Manning. Manning has had slow stretches with Indy like Marino had with Miami in regards to team sucess.. And like Marino, there have been times when Manning has had to carry the entire team on his back. We can "What if" this to death...but bottom line...put in the worst situation with average tools...or lets say, give the Dan a Ford to do a Chevy's job, and he'll come out on top every time due to simply pure God given QB ability. THE GREATEST EVER.
newt30nc 1 year ago
Hands down the best passer of all time. He revolutionized the way the position is played. Two examples that I know of: throwing to the outside shoulder of the WR and throwing the ball prior to the receiver making his break. (Not including the fake spike b/c it happens so rarely)
jgp1476 1 year ago
@lvnv2009 Why don't everyone ask peyton manning who his idle and hero is?? You just got through looking at him.
bigmrclean 1 year ago
what a passer, best pure passer of all time, the way the ball comes out of his hands is magic! go dolphins!
italstallion06 1 year ago 2
Fryar that year was a G for us! I loved him as a reciever for us! Can you imagine him his whole career here sides in NE? GOOD LORD he would be one of the best ever and near the top of the charts IN ALL CATEGORIES!
onblock7 1 year ago
Oh how I miss those Dan the Man Comeback Days.
My stomach was always in happy knots. Those Fins games were never over until we saw zero on the clock.
FINS WIN IN 2010:D
IngridBergmanRocked 1 year ago
The "winning" argument is not valid. Marino is the best passer of all time, hands down. If he had Montana's supporting cast he would have won 4 super bowls too. The Dolphins never had a team that would have been better than 8-8 without Marino.
blackhawksfan2525 1 year ago
Cosmictalk 1 year ago
There will never be another Dan Marino. He IS the greatest quaterback to ever grace an NFL uniform. The lack of a superbowl ring makes people discredit him, but stats don't lie. Year after year, without a solid running back or a good secondary, Marino continued to keep the Dolphins a formidable contender, and they rarely missed the playoffs. The greatest EVER!!!
humbleapprentice 1 year ago
thats not gary guyton is it ?!?!? no way in hell
apolllos7 1 year ago
I was 10 years old when this happened and it was the first NFL game I ever watched. Amazingly it is still the single best game I have ever seen. I've been hooked on football ever since. Dan is the greatest of all time!
lacesoutdany 1 year ago
Weather wise, that was such a crappy day. Stilli went home happy cause the Dolphins got the W. Great game!!!
IsraelDecoy 1 year ago
That decision to throw to Fryar on 4th down took guts. Marino saw it and decided.
backyardbread 1 year ago
There is little that i miss more than watching Dan play football. I remember watching this game on base in norfolk. This game was a great shootout between dan and drew
68stanger21 1 year ago
MARINO WAS FEARLESS! ALOT OF QB'S WOULD BE AFRAID OF THAT, BUT MAN HE LAID THAT THING IN THERE SO GOOD, IT ALMOST LOOKED FAKE
Zeiler316 1 year ago 2
I hope this season pennington isnt the starter QB i like Henne
prchoward 1 year ago
@prchoward Dude, where have you been? This is Henne's team. Sparano already said he's the starter this season.
Potandthekettle 1 year ago
and unlike favre he only played 17 seasons. NOT 20
Jcerna88 1 year ago
being a dolphin fan growing up, i took for granted having marino as our QB, now all i have is memories and youtube vids. what a special era it was for us- having the greatest QB of all time! We miss ya Dan! thanks for the memories!
carlosZ1981 1 year ago 2
A truly legendary performance by the greatest QB in NFL history. Bar none.
jwcork 1 year ago
wow dan marino is a very good quaterback
alexwise41 1 year ago
Absolutely: a team sport. Put Marino on the 49ers with that defense and Jerry Rice, he picks up 5 rings.
Gtarist62 1 year ago 4
epic drive
idIethreat 1 year ago
Elway somehow pulled it off. Almost Dan in 1994 and 1990 but Dan was the best. It is a team sport
MrWwefuturechamp 1 year ago
7Rayo13 you are so right your comment make more sense then all these fools that blame on the team and coach's for the lack of championship caliber skills.
devilcharm 1 year ago
I place blame on the team personell as well. Wayne Huizenga knows shit about football. Don Shula and anyone else involved in football operations should've pushed to sign some key FAs to get the team over the hump.
7Rayo13 1 year ago 2
Amen! brother you sir! know your SHIT! It's really sad people like yourself have more common sense then all the ASSHOLE who think more about the seize of their WALLET then the TEAM success.
devilcharm 1 year ago
@devilcharm
which is why my favorite baseball team is the Yankees
people can bitch and moan all they want but at least the owner puts as much money as possible into what he feels can improve the product on the field Sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt but the team at least has a chance to not only compete but to win a title. As competitive as the Dolphins were they were never gonna win a SB unless things fell in place perfectly, they never did
7Rayo13 1 year ago
dude did u know we could of had earl campbell hershall walker ! tony dorset we said fucking no to all of them
joeyjuke23 2 years ago
No, the only reason Marino didn't get a SB is because we had no running game whatsoever.
GonnaCsonkaYa000 2 years ago
no running game
average O-Line (Webb & Sims were great but that's it)
barely any defense for almost his whole career (the great defensive core of Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor, Patrick Surtain & Sam Madison were all drafted from 96 - 98).
The year after Marino retired Lamar Smith rushed for over 1,000 yards, and the Dolphins lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs. do you think had Marino stayed at least one more year they would've went further?
7Rayo13 1 year ago
Defence is the reason Marino never won the bowl! Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas and all the Bills owned them for years.......its a shame. The dolphins couldnt stop anyone in 20+ years.
splitopennmelt 2 years ago
best ever.
carlosZ1981 2 years ago 2
Ahhhh the good old days bledsoe was the reason why I became a patriots fan I was 13 at the time :)
1980hansolo 2 years ago
If he had a GOOD WR core he would at least had 4 rings like JOE MONTANA, It reminds me of BARRY SANDERS no OL and yet he made a miracle when he touch the ball plus I never quit understood why they didn't when for big time names at WR position at that time for Marino.
devilcharm 2 years ago
i now imagine sanders in a dolphin uniform
wc470 2 years ago
It wasn't just WRs. It was defense too. I don't recall his defense being that good when the Marks were doin their thing.
Jubel06 2 years ago
Why did the Dolphins never get Marino a top WR after the Marks
Wayne Huizenga
the same cheap money hungry bastard that fielded two World Series champion Marlins and broke up the teams the year after.
Huizenga was more concerned about making money then winning a Super Bowl. as long as the Dolphins stayed competive and fans bought tickets and merchandise he was happy to keep them where they were
7Rayo13 1 year ago
@7Rayo13 Dude, Marino had players like Irving Fryar, Ingram, Keith Jackson, and McDuffie. What they needed was a RUNNING BACK, and a good DEFENSE.
Potandthekettle 1 year ago
@Potandthekettle
I said that in some of my previous posts. as for the players you mentioned except for McDuffie there werent with the Dolphins for that long. Not enough time to build chemistry when all three were gone in three years and Marino was out for a good chunk of the '94 season. also while those receivers were good they werent the gamebreaking receivers that Marino wouldve needed to win without a running game or defense
7Rayo13 1 year ago
@7Rayo13 Oh no doubt he didnt have a hall of fame receiver throughout his career, which is amazing in of itself. But he did have some damn good all pros. But even with a hall of fame receiver, it wasnt going to happen without a D and a star RB. You can score 30+ points and it should be good enough to win, unless the other team scores 40+ which seemed to happen too often with those Dolphins.
Potandthekettle 1 year ago
@7Rayo13 A good example was that playoff game they lost in Buffalo where the final score was 44-34. It was either that, or his receivers were blanketed and his team was dared to run on them. Like in the Super Bowl against the 49ers, or the AFC Championship game against the Bills. Both those factors always seemed to drag him down. Such a damn shame. I was a huge fan.
Potandthekettle 1 year ago
@7Rayo13 Yes but Fryar was a pro bowler a few times and check his all time career numbers, he could be in the HOF with those numbers, he was flat out sick! He was an all pro a few times. Ingram was good as well! Keith Jackson is one of the better tight ends IMO to play the game! He had OJ as you said, but damn man he needed a D and a running game as you said, true there.
onblock7 6 months ago
@devilcharm So Duper and Clayton were not good recievers? You just toss them out as not good now? Did you see them play? They were pro bowlers man! They were sick! Fryar was great as well! Ingram was good but not the notch they were in. How can you say he never had good recievers? Maybe not a good RB or D to get him there, but it was not the recievers, he always had the numbers and them, just not much D and RG to help him! He needed a Ronnie Brown and RICKY! Not recievers.
onblock7 6 months ago
@onblock7 I agree. These people who are saying Duper and Clayton were bad or mediocore receivers are just ignorant....all you have to do is look at their stats. Clayton was one of the most feared and savy receivers ever. I was actually at this game and it was one of the most exciting games ever played. Marino and Bledsoe both were on fire.
guyinfl99 3 months ago
Did someone say Irving Fryer? Ugh....
egillanded 2 years ago
Dan Marino was my all-time favorite quaterback. Dan Marino was my all-time favorite football player. He was awesome. The quick release, the laser arm, the pin point accuracy, the pocket presence, and the winner mentality all made Marino the greatest ever.
cvjucla3 2 years ago 3
Dan the Man is back again.
ErikS1975FreeState 2 years ago 2
Best QB & pure passer the NFL has ever seen. Damn, I miss that guy!....Simply the best, Dan Marino.
jcee194 2 years ago 2
I miss him so bad
chaseryan31 2 years ago 2
He might be the best QB of all time because he is the best at throwing the ball of all time.
courtneyfriel 2 years ago
He's back.
FrsBigeasy 2 years ago
miss these days! get us a big play WR and i think we might see the aerial assault in miami again!
italstallion06 2 years ago
Marino had six games where he threw for 4 or more TD's, a feat tied only by Peyton Manning in '04. When Danny was on, he was like a force of nature - unstoppable.
Rolandzebub 2 years ago
I am okay seeing Peyton break his records, but not Favre that selfish overrated shit. I keep praying his arm breaks some day.
tubeyouguy1984 2 years ago 3
i agree best QB of all time
MrElijahSpark 2 years ago
Dan Marino is the best quarterback of all time he will kill anyone in his way
1999kaco 2 years ago 3
Marino was the best passing quarterback of alltime!!!!! THE KING!!!
redhead5150 2 years ago 54
those r some madden all pro numbers right there, 473 yds 5 tds!!!
shazzar756 2 years ago 2
Imagine having the G.O.A.T. on your fantasy team, lol. MARINO IS GOD!!!
BigScary529 2 years ago
WoW Irving Fryar 4 catches 201 yds 3 Tds. Thats efficient.
poker2face 2 years ago
That's Mutant Leauge Football numbers.
bjchit 2 years ago
It's funny to see Parcells on our team now.
flashlightbrown 2 years ago
I was really young during this era, but why was the extra point kicked outside the hash marks?
ShawdowRaptor 2 years ago
So it was not on the dirt....easier to kick in grass
IWORKATa711 2 years ago
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so it's on the grass. u can't kick on dirt u idiot
SourPatch97 2 years ago
Actually you can kick on dirt... but ok. It must have been the preference not too.
ShawdowRaptor 2 years ago
it is obviouslly harder to kick on dirt though
SourPatch97 2 years ago
This was Marino's first game back after missing much of the 1993 season with a ruptured Achilles tendon. There was a lot of talk that he wasn't ready to start, maybe even his time had passed. And what did he do? Only threw five TDs, plus the game-winner on 4th down. He was the best ever.
cythera4 2 years ago 22
Funny thing, he started the first preseason game that year. His first pass was a long touchdown.
SCE2AUX 2 years ago
@cythera4 he would off had more touchdowns and probaly 4k more yards to his career and he only played for 17 years it took farve 19 to getto were dan was and farve playing for 20 years now
7SEVEN7SEVEN7SEVEN7 1 year ago
Oh baby no one else would even take that chance.
jezzfan33 2 years ago
God I miss those days
terrymill 2 years ago 2
I was at this game a few days before I pcs'd to Germany. Best game ever!
Cydonia 2 years ago
Miller looks like Welker....
Phaktor1 2 years ago
Dan the MAN!
bucallen2009 2 years ago
Take that gay Patriot and Tom Brady fans. The Patriots wouldn't have had to cheat if they had this guy; also they'd have more championships than anyone and would repeat every year.
jezzfan33 2 years ago
#80 is like 'its not me its god' - NO its Marino bitch.
Diocletian09 2 years ago
Marino is God.
bjchit 2 years ago
Were the Dolphins allowed to move the PAT to the hashmarks? I didn;t know there was a rule allowing that.
JZ2001JC 2 years ago
Absolutely. Rule 11, Section 3, Article 1 of the NFL rule book:
"After a touchdown, the scoring team is allowed a Try. This Try is an attempt to score one or two additional points, during one scrimmage down with the spot of snap:
a) anywhere between the inbounds lines and
b) which is also two or more yards from the defensive team's goal line.
So Shula could have even backed it up a few more yards to give Stoyanovich a better kicking angle.
untexan 2 years ago
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. And I also believe this was the first season that the NFL allowed you to go for 2 PTS. Thats cool with the NFL Rule Book there.
JZ2001JC 2 years ago
Parcells pacing the sidelines and thinking to himself, "I will run the Miami Dolphins one day, oh yeah - I will run this team one day!! LOL
dlms1963 2 years ago
Landshark was a running joke on SNL years and years ago, where Chevy Chase made fun of JAWS by knocking on the door, and when the person asked "Who is it?" He'd say...."Landshark."
TH
oceantracks 2 years ago
Ahh... back when QB's didn't wear skirts. If Dan had all the QB rules back then like today, Manning wouldn't even come close to breaking any of em.
azeron112 2 years ago 3
A point well made. And also consider that during Dan's record-setting year, he played all but one game outdoors. Manning, who does deserve great credit, played over half of his in a controlled, indoor setting.
I'm sure you'll agree with me that football was meant to be played outdoors, amidst the elements, with no delays for rain or sleet or snow.
In other words, if you care for the playing surface with a vacuum cleaner, it's not a football field.
FloridaFormula5 2 years ago
And Marino didnt play against guys like Mario Williams -6'-7", 300 pounds, 10 percent body fat, running a 4.7 40. The NFL is so much bigger, faster, and stronger than what it was back when Dan played. Also Marino is ranked 2nd with the least about of times sacked in his career. You know nothing.
cellmeplz 2 years ago
Yeah, there were no dominant pass rushers back in the horse-and-buggy days.
Sigh.
ccie12933 2 years ago
I guess Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Bruce Smith, etc. were all 120 lb. feathers who couldn't tackle?
cpcomedy06 2 years ago 2
And all those guys were the biggest players back in the day. But their size is what every player in the NFL is. Compare sizes with Taylor and Peppers.
cellmeplz 2 years ago
Dude, LT (the original) was high off his ass on coke back in the day, scary stuff, it was a different league. I truly think you're mixing up linemen with linebackers.
cpcomedy06 2 years ago
Cellmeplz-
You don't know shit! True. the NFL is much faster, but the guards are much much faster and stronger as well, so your foolish argument is lacking perspective in that regard.
It's obvious you don't know anything about the game of football, because if you did, you would realize the passing game was much harder back then, due to bump and run rules. The passing game is much more liberal now.
So, it would seem YOU KNOW NOTHING! Deal with it.
danolson68 2 years ago
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And back in the day the defense didnt show as many looks as they do now. WR's are also faster and taller than they were. So you dont know shit.
cellmeplz 2 years ago
Wrong again. Are you retarded?
danolson68 2 years ago
cause there wasnt creative ways to cheat the drug tests back then.... all these guys now are roided up
gamblerig 2 years ago
Dude the whole 1970's steelers team was on steroids.
cellmeplz 2 years ago
Quick sidenote...Parcells traded Fryar to the Fins for a lowly 4th rounder a year before....he tortured the Patriots in 93 and in 94.
Phaktor1 2 years ago
and then brought them to the superbowl in '96 and made them what they are now
mjbanka17 2 years ago
Cannot deny that at all. However, Parcells may have stuck around longer if he had not traded Fryar. Remember, Terry Glenn was drafted (against the 'grocery shopper's' wishes, mind you) as a go to receiver...Bledsoe would have had that in Fryar, who was still effective. Instead, he had the likes of Vincent Brisby, Ray Crittenden, Hassan Graham and Michael Timpson...those guys didn't get it done. No beef my friend...just a revisionist comment.
Phaktor1 2 years ago
Go Steelers im glad the fins beat the pats
Here We Go Steelers!
PittsburghSteelersTS 2 years ago
A terrible one at that. All hail the man, dan marino!
combatt84 2 years ago 2
Man I wish you had that whole game. I remember that was a hell of a shootout between Marino and Bledsoe.
bigchiefblake 2 years ago
You just know that on that 4 and 6th Dan was thinking, "Fuck it, I'm Dan Marino, we're going for the win, RIGHT NOW!"
bjchit 2 years ago 5