My daddy (ufc) can kicke your daddy's (traditional) butt. You are all children. Individuals make great fighers, training methods only unlock the doors, no matter which one it is.
You nerds needa shut up, you can blabble all you want about your own opinion of taking Bruce's idea into writing and putting it into youtube to show your smart, but you guys probably aint got no experience at fighting, go try it out for yourself and comeback and prove your point.
jesus a punch is a punch and a kick is a kick... jeet kune do, karate, savate whatever it's the guy throwing it that makes it deadly... some are fast, some are hard and some are both, some are devastating.
@itsGdublan And you say it yourself Muay Thai in their stand up, so that means there is more in a fight. And thats when theres no place for muay thai. Muay Thai on the ground is like a fish on dry land fool. Also GSP is not Karate, Machida is Karate, Silva has no real stand up style, And mostly boxing is used for stand up as kicking is dangerous in MMA cuz the kick could be catched. Im not saying there aint no Muay Thai or that Muay isnt good for stand up. But its not all that. IDIOT!
@itsGdublan wahah you R really the IDIOT here. Again its MIXED MARTIAL ARTS. That means you BoX, Lowkick, Sidekick, Takedown, Wrestle, Grapple, Submit or Knock somebody out. That means for stand up you can use Muay Thai kicks, Karate Kicks or just call it a kick. Its not that those MMA fighters are Muay Thai fighters whahah You R such an idiot. Dude please, Just shut the fuck up, Cuz you R making a fool out of yourself whahaha
@itsGdublan You R the retard here. Obviously you can not discuss normal. You have no clue of Andersons skillz or martial art. You R living in a fantasy world and really dont know what your talking about. First of all Anderson is NO Muay Thai fighter and doenst use muay tha style, maybe one or two lowkicks or knees. But that does every fighter to in MMA if there is a chance. Thats why its called MMA. Second Anderson has several fights where he wins with jiu jiutsu.
I practice muay thai and some sort of jkd techniques, i think i am pretty fast and strong enoguh to deliver strong punches at good speed; However like someone said before "there is no best style", so if i find myself laying on the ground, there's no much i could do against a bjj, and because i try to do straight moves, an aikidoka possibly could read my moves... conclusion: Try to practice EVERY existing style you possibly can.
@K20civicsirturbo This is extremely effective. How can you NOt use this in real life. My JKD coach used this when sparring a black belt in karate and accidently split his eye open. It is simple trapping from a punch.
MMA in it's early forms were the testing platform for what works in the street. You KO your opponent and are ready for the next guy or you struggle with the first guy. It doesn't matter if it goes to the ground. If you don't shut down the first attacker you are facing 2 or more attackers. If you couldn't beat the first dude what makes you think you can beat him and his friends? TMA teaches you that your weak techniques will win. Life shows otherwise.
i hate when people say bull shit like, oh any fighting style is deadly depending on the user. not true at all. karate, TKD, and especially ikido are fake in all the ikido videos the "masters" just grab the students hand the student does a front flip to make it seem like he did it. when mma first started, all fighting styles entered and only the few real styles made it. muay thai, BJJ, wrestling, val tudo. no one uses kung fu as it has been proven useless countless times bruce lee is an exception
@itsGdublan actually the reason those martial arts are now obsolete is that no street fighter uses them any more. A street fighter in ancient times is a martial artist in ours. but now that no one uses martial arts that much anymore thats why and the martial arts that you named can be defeated and you are right aikido is useless but taekwondo is nothing but kickboxing and that works pretty well Not to offend you but you have to use logic before you say something
dude no thats not true. street fighters used martial arts in asia first off all and that was against other martial artists or inexperienced fighters. the reason it is obsolete is because against styles like muay thai it is useless. i dont care what time period you look at. a muay thai fighter will always beat any other style. its fact. use your logic.
@itsGdublan But Muay Thai doesn't have grappling if you get him on the ground he isn't going to do very well. Muay Thai isn't the best style because there is no best style
muay thai fighters have clinching which is sort of like grappling but there is no way you could get one on the ground any way. there is a video of some dude using bjj against a muay thai fighter and when the guy dives in to grab the muay thai fighter's legs, he gets kneed multiple times and knocked out fast and easy.
@itsGdublan Muay Thai is not enough against MMA. For one simple reason...Its only standing. And thinking Muay thai can not be taken to the ground from the clinch is very naive to say.
your very naive. this is what you said in quotes. "Muay Thai is not enough against MMA." i dont know how many kids i have to explain this simple concept to. mma is not a fighting style. it just means mixed martial arts because businesses like ufc and pride allow you to use any form of martial arts. when you find a muay thai fighter getting his ass kicked by someone using any form of grappling, send me the vid because i'd be interested to see that.
@itsGdublan 1. Yes MMA is Mixed Martial Arts meaning there are more styles involved to get the job done. Im saying nothing bad agains Muay Thai as I originally come from Muay Thai, trained by Peter Smit. You give an example Muay Thai against Jiu Jiutsu, Well that is still not MMA. MMA has nothing to do with one style. Its a sportform like JKD is for the street. About giving an example. Dude, there has been thousends of examples in the UFC, Strikeforce, Cagerage, Valetudo ect.
@itsGdublan Check out fighters like Anderson Silva, Fedor, Lyotto Machida, GSP, BJ Penn to name a few. You ll see that ONE style is not enough. You need to be all round. Stand up fighters train in grappling and Grapplers train in Stand up. Thats that! And giving you an example. This is from Pride as Pride doenst excist anymore. Check out Lyoto Machida vs. Michael McDonald , but also check out, UFC, Strikeforce, Cagerage to name a few. Do you thing!
first of all anderson silva uses muay thai and kicks everyone's ass so your proving my point, second 1 still isnt enough in ufc or any other place for mma. but muay thai vs any other style will end up with muay thai on top. plus in a street fight knowing muay thai will be the best.
@itsGdublan Second in a streetfight Muay Thai will not help you. Maybe you can fire one low kick but a good streetfighter will close the range immidiatlly. For streetfights you have to train in streetfighting. Jeet Kune Do, Krav Maga are very good systems for the streets. They learn you hitting the groin, or dirtygrapple like clawing the face and fishhooking the mouth, Jabbing the throat or headbutting the chin.
close the range? the last thing you want to do is get close to a muay thai fighter. if you "close the range" for even a second you will be pulled into a clinch and kneed in the face, ribs, and even groan so many times you wont get up. you clearly have know nothing about fighting. go watch wwe cuz thats where your head is at.
These are good videos. I do not argue about styles- they all work in the right hands.
JKD is great for people like me who like the right jab and side kick.
But it is not the be-all end-all for everyone. People get too hung up on worshipping Bruce and on bashing MMA. I am not as good as either Lee himself or a pro MMA fighter, so I can be inspired by both.
this is a spin off from Wing Chun, i do wing chun and the moves ive seen here are all the same. I know the guy talks about leading with the strongest side, but wing chun you have no sides, you attack from the centre. JKD was just Bruce lee's name to sell it as his own in my opinion. And to all the guys who talk about MMA and that shit, wing chun Kung Fu isn't a sport like boxing, mai tai, bjj, or even karate. Its a weapon, you train to break and even kill your opponent to protect yourself.
@firebladenut i do wing chun as-well, I've been doing it for 5 weeks now and i have been taught a wing chun punch which is basically a jab that is not fully extended to generate more power and i've learnt lap sau and other defence deflections but i dont know if we have a hook or cross and i haven't learnt the trap, do u know about this?
@DaTruthsHere wiing chun doesn't use hooks, you attack an opponents centre line which gives you speed and direct forward momentum. A hook or cross is probably the slowest punch you can throw and any one who has done wing chun for even a few months can block a hook and inflict serious pain on an opponent because you can use there power against them, your sifu will be able to help you on this, ask him to show you a hook block and a counter takedown and you will see why we dont use them, :)
Totaly wrong in terms of what they are teaching, JKD is using all the essences of the styles to suit you in whatevery enviroment and situation youare in. This is teaching how you HAVE to punch, or kick etc in JKD, and not what it truly means and is.
bruce lee is called the father of mma by people in mma this cage fighter did a block that was a jkd block he said cage fighters just change it around so they can tackle their opponent to the floor.
For instance if i entered a UFC fight using Krav Maga techniques they wouldnt know how to defend themselves because they arent trained to defend from things like wrist locks, groin strikes and such..
And the people that you see in UFC are not trained in advanced martial arts such as wing chun and xinyiquan because UFC is a sport to entertain people and those martial arts are used as mostly dangerous situation protection.
@h34p Thats even debatable for MMA, but theres no way I'd want to use BJJ in a street fight. Muay Thai or Boxing and Wrestling for takedown defense would be a more street savy style. And JKD and some forms of Kung Fu have some techniques that can amplify Muay Thai and Boxing pretty well
@h34p The best Matial Art, if there is one, would be JKD, because it explores all ranges of combat, which is kicking, punching, trapping, and grappling, while Muay Thai only explores kicking, elbows, and knees, which is useless unless in close combat. BJJ, can be defeated if you know your body, and how it works.
That's why MMA is not a style, it is an amalgamation of the most effective facets of all martial arts. You seem to be under the premonition that MMA fighters do not train techniques that are intended to kill opponents. This is far from the truth. In fact, MMA schools incorporate the study of physiology and anatomy into training, but unlike traditional martial arts, we extract all the ineffective techniques and general mystique that accompanies traditional eastern martial arts.
It's easy to forget, especially in western society where people tend to want things handed to them on a plate. Few people have the deire to look deeper into their teachings and simply assume that kata and forms are to be taken at face value. Chinese martial arts were and are steeped in philosophy which is designed to encourage experimentation and thought, japanese arts are the same, the japanese term for this is bunkai.
Bruce elevated this way of thinking with Jeet Kune Do ...
cont ... but his only failure was to over estimate the western way of thinking. Us westerners look at something like JKD and want to be able to do it with as little effort and in as short a time as possible .... pssibly why there are so many McDojos out there ....I actually trained with someone who trained for 10 years on nothing but one kick, one punch andf one throw (after achieving 20 years of learning ) and he is awesome with those 3 techniques and discovered so many ways of applying them.
This technique is just about if you end up in that starting position, one punch and it'll rock them, and you can follow through with a straight blast, very effective
Depends. Something like Jeet Kune do or Wing Chun is very practical and powerful. But something like Mantis or Crane, I got to agree. Unless you are fighting someone else who does that form of kung fu, its just flashy. After all, Monks did use it primarily to stay fit.
Wing Chun is based on the crane. All of kung-fu comes from the basic 5 animal styles. The point was to learn the different elements of each animal style and combine them into something that suits you personally. All and I mean ALL oriental arts can be traced back to the original 5, even thai boxing. Jeet kune do isn't a style but a philosophy in which ALL techniques and methods may be used, the Wing Chun strikes are there because that was Lee's original style
I really don't think thats correct. Its just that everything I have seen like from Dave Insanto or from Jerry Poteet that there is a base teaching that bruce Lee directly taught them which had its own techniques, mechanics, a method. Which was kind of like a mix of Wing chun and boxing. Its not like a JKD teacher taught a mix of karate and judo and called it JKD. No there is a base form and etc.
If you study JKD and have a karate background that karate background is incorporated into your JKD, the same with judo or aikido ... even though there is quite a bit of aikido principle in JKD anyway. Whatever you already know you bring to the table. JKD was designed to be ever evolving but built on the irimi principles (entering/interception) The inherent strikes of JKD are simply what HE used and taught because they were what he knew. JKD is based entirely on principle,
u have obviously never been in an altercation... muay thai does not train in adrenal response. as soon as adrenalin kicks in ur motor skills become very basic n limited. i do traditional wing chun n take it from someone who has been in several fights. once a simple yet effective technique is trained into ur muscle memory, u react without thinking
i just think all these traps etc wudnt work in a real life fight with an oppenent with flailing arms etc..it look good in demo with an oppenent who stands still but wud never be useful for real..im king fu guys can handle themseleves..i tried wing chun for over a year and hated it cuase it felt so unnnatural..so i gave it up for muay thai and never looked back..wwe wrestling is the best martial arts though imo ;)
there is no speculation anymore the UFC has cleared up what martial arts are good in real fight and what arent .the funny thing is the most important thing to know doesn't involve any puching ,kicking its called wrestling not hulk hogan style real wrestling also tia boxing and ju jittsu seem to be the best forms of training and yes simple technics do help they just look more sloppy in a real fight and they are less oviuos becuase your hiding your actions unlike when teaching them
UFC has rules......Real Fighting does not. Arts like Kung Fu, Karate, Ikido have moves that could kill anybody if done. Striking to the eyes, biting, ripping ears off, ripping off and destroying the testicles. These are nowhere to be found in organized sports and for obvious reasons. If it were a fight to the death fights would be over in seconds, not rounds. Every art is deadly in the right person's hands.
spoken like a true gentlemen. Seems like everytime there is a JKD video someone has to try to tear it down with their "MMA IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING IN THE WORLD!"@Rjackman84
@Rjackman84 rectification karatee and kung fu are combat sports which have competition. Ikido too those are all combat arts not saying that they re not effectif but you need a good amount of time to train in them and start really young. The one who is the most effectif around the world and easiest is Krav Maga
@Rjackman84 dude its really annoying how people think mma is the top fighting and self defense style and have no idea how deadly silat, krav maga, kali , and kung fu are
@asianboi1004 - MMA represents all martial-arts. Anderson Silva was training with Steven Seagal before his fight with Chael Sonnen. But Anderson Silva did not get a chance to use any Aikido. Cung Le, has a background in Sanda but also BJJ and Muay-Thai. Any art can be deadly but effective is the question. A Muay-Thai Lumpinee rated fighter can crush an unconditioned fighters skull with a single strike. MMA way of training is top because it prepares you against anything.
@asianboi1004 - Do some research on the roots of Krav Maga which I have a high respect for is essentially MMA. But its too tame for me its more for your average citizen. Not enough sparring in most classes. The roots of modern K-maga began in Czechoslovakia in the 1930's with Imi Lichtenfeld, an expert in boxing and wrestling.
Traditional Asian arts such as Wing Chun/Tsun and other styles are dieing. Even the Shaolin in this clip knows it and modernized his art to adapt.
@iApna i take mma so i think and i think i can judge whatever i want seriously people think mma is the shit just because its on t.v and majority of people use it thats only because america moves on seeing is believing they really should be more open-minded and yeah i do submission grappling too in mma and yes we use all sorts of submissions arm triangles, triangle choke, rear naked choke. doesnt mean we cant be beat by a karate or silat artist.
@asianboi1004 - For sure, no doubt. The karate guy might have years of experience. I'm a MMA practitioner myself although better at Muay-Thai. My bro who is Thai practitioner split an MMA's fighters skull last year and fight was stopped in the first round. The MMA fighter tried to weave/bob and got caught with a Thai kick. His opponent forgot my bros was a Thai fighter for 15 years but new to MMA who has only "some" BJJ experience. Weaving/bobbing not very helpful against knees/Kicks.
@asianboi1004 - People like you judge MMA based on what they see on TV. Fighters are training off season and on season. In my last BJJ class we were practicing chokes, cutting off the blood supply to the brain to put our opponent to sleep. The instructor quickly showed how to change the choke into breaking the opponents neck if needed.
Here is a clip that gives you a basic overview of how an MMA fighter sees his opponent and trains.
let me speak or type my mind.. First of, MMA is good i mean alrighty... but in streets, with 4 or 3 guys, you can't really take on them.. point is, MMA is just for one on one basis unlike martial arts.. PURE martial arts such as AIKIDO, KARATE, etc..So I do think MMA is better without MA. Because there is no art there. just pure kicking punching and shooting.. mind me, shooting a Martial artist, for instance, a silat or FMA it's a no no..no can do M's.but I'm not against MMA.it's just pure brute
@Daredamunuga Its not the style its the person who is doing it...Any style can be effective if you train to make it effective...as Bruce Lee said " Absorb what is usefull " Learn to use what works for you
@Rjackman84 Actually, real fights do have rules of sorts. Laws of physics for one. Human biology could be another. But then these should still be considered variables because, for example, a crew mate on a spacestation might start going nuts and you get in a fight but the laws of gravity won't apply. Or you may put someone in an armbar and pop their elbow out but the person just pops it back in again because they're so double jointed. But for practical reasons we teach these as constants.
@Rjackman84 Referees are there to protect the fighters, if there were no referees or rules MMA fighters would use those dirty moves as well. Just look at Bas Rutten's bar fight videos.
In jeet kune do martial art , its teach you what you should not do,you can do anything you want but its does not teach what you should do, this video should explain the way what the real jeet kune do explain.A lot of peoples out there learn a bit of jeet kune do stuff and claim themself a jkd expert.They don know enough yet what jkd is all about, its a very deep art as Bruce Lee have study ''TAO'' a very deep meaning which have study in china for more than 1,000 years ago.
@Rjackman84 I know its a year ago but.. Since "UFC" Is not a fighting style, your entire point is invalid for one. If you are talking about the style of "MMA" MMA, has moves that could kill, hence the rules in UFC and other event holding companies and no, not every art is deadly in the right persons hand. I can prove you wrong on that easy.
@RainboColour I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just curious how you would prove, "... not every art is deadly in the right person's hands."
The referees in the UFC are there by law to make sure fights are in compliance with the unified rules of MMA and to make sure fighters don't take unnecessary damage.
I second that. I've also been in a few fights and I can honestly say that muscle memory is really what you train for. Blink of the eye reflexes. I do wish I took wing chun though. I would have been much faster with my grapples.
theres an old speed trick to grind your teeth in and out really fast so it sounds like an action movie punch, then match the speed. but honestly jeet kune do is like wing chun only more room between the fighters. this stuff looks good though im thankful he posts these videos its nice to watch.
the ideal of hitting a training sack is so that your fist becomes stronger. that's the idea of the shaolin monks. find a a bag or sack, throw some gravel or tiny crushed up rocks in there, and start punching for about an hour or so. monks do it for 2hours+, but for starters, i'd try 20-30 minutes a day, then work my way up. and a bit more advice, drink PLENTY of water before you start this workout.
Buy those weights you can grip on. Hold it and start punching... Buy 1 kg for a start. The next one you should get is 3kg once you gotten used to it. Then 5kg then to 10kg. Standard push-ups works too. But then you need to do it quick and fast. Just becareful not to hurt your wrist and elbows. Consider that a warning. Doing it fast sometimes can overwork your joints.
i have started punching with dumbels of 10kg now, but i think even more critical to speed is training your explosiveness by running in short bursts and quickly changing direction, and training the foot and hip work in a punching bag
i have those too but i have only found in 2kg wrist weighs, and when you punch the weight tries to slide out of you hand hitting your wrist bone and rips the arm hair too unless you have long sleeves, it's not so comfortable for punching i found
guy makes a point. i just want to see them have a pak da combo with boxing, or muay thai..yeeaahh ..thatd be interesting. i kno you could do it.. but thatd be interesting yo see.. and you say pak sao is too close to narrow.. you dont talk like that in a fight... its flowing.. you dont say o i messed up or let me correct that hen your fighting or sparring.. either you've practiced it correctly.. perfect your stance.. so it shows in your fighting. you underestimate the character..
Stance is to open and the Pak Sao dosen't clase enough to actually stop a low kick to the groin. On a good note suddenly your punching eliptically and from a vertical fist position what's all that about! And your Pak is not too telegraphic, however you have yet to master Non-intention, your too motor-set.
No your right it's not it's showing quite badly how to close and immobilise, without any forwards energy or compression.Nor has he defeated the opponent's defence as the opponent rear Pak's, he would have to continue to compound trap to do that.
Sigh... he was demonstrating one portion of what would otherwise be a compound technique. In a fight, you don't aim to trap and start doing chi sao with your opponent, you aim to score and finish. You are hardly limited to continue making a compound trap.
Martial artists are a fucking joke
KevTokes703 5 days ago
Packsaoudah is Cantonese for literally, "Smack Hand and Strike" I'm Cantonese that is how I know.
TheCheungo 1 month ago
does anyone else recignize this technique from Enter the Dragon? Bruce Lee used it three times when he fought Bob Wall and killed him.
cheesemonkey1990 2 months ago
:23 unless you clench...
You should have your opponent stand in an orthodox stance for training vids, because most people are right handed and don't know JKD. Just a thought.
Nice technique though.
T1meW4st3d 4 months ago
BE MY TEACHER !!!!
enzym456 7 months ago
My daddy (ufc) can kicke your daddy's (traditional) butt. You are all children. Individuals make great fighers, training methods only unlock the doors, no matter which one it is.
deDqq2Hu 7 months ago
how can i get all video related to this?
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parwezMS 7 months ago in playlist Jeet Kune Do 2
You nerds needa shut up, you can blabble all you want about your own opinion of taking Bruce's idea into writing and putting it into youtube to show your smart, but you guys probably aint got no experience at fighting, go try it out for yourself and comeback and prove your point.
NoobfromANYWHERE1 10 months ago
@theawakener7 Do you have any survey chart that proves otherwise? Or one that proves that Jeet Kune Do is more effective? No.
ARandomCanadian 10 months ago
@theawakener7 Funny how MMA fighters beat the crap out of any other fighters in a street fight.
ARandomCanadian 10 months ago
jesus a punch is a punch and a kick is a kick... jeet kune do, karate, savate whatever it's the guy throwing it that makes it deadly... some are fast, some are hard and some are both, some are devastating.
Zofirael 11 months ago
@itsGdublan You R really so dumb that you dont understand what its all about whahahah you useless fuck!
minasz 1 year ago
@itsGdublan And you say it yourself Muay Thai in their stand up, so that means there is more in a fight. And thats when theres no place for muay thai. Muay Thai on the ground is like a fish on dry land fool. Also GSP is not Karate, Machida is Karate, Silva has no real stand up style, And mostly boxing is used for stand up as kicking is dangerous in MMA cuz the kick could be catched. Im not saying there aint no Muay Thai or that Muay isnt good for stand up. But its not all that. IDIOT!
minasz 1 year ago
@itsGdublan wahah you R really the IDIOT here. Again its MIXED MARTIAL ARTS. That means you BoX, Lowkick, Sidekick, Takedown, Wrestle, Grapple, Submit or Knock somebody out. That means for stand up you can use Muay Thai kicks, Karate Kicks or just call it a kick. Its not that those MMA fighters are Muay Thai fighters whahah You R such an idiot. Dude please, Just shut the fuck up, Cuz you R making a fool out of yourself whahaha
minasz 1 year ago
@itsGdublan You R the retard here. Obviously you can not discuss normal. You have no clue of Andersons skillz or martial art. You R living in a fantasy world and really dont know what your talking about. First of all Anderson is NO Muay Thai fighter and doenst use muay tha style, maybe one or two lowkicks or knees. But that does every fighter to in MMA if there is a chance. Thats why its called MMA. Second Anderson has several fights where he wins with jiu jiutsu.
minasz 1 year ago
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I practice muay thai and some sort of jkd techniques, i think i am pretty fast and strong enoguh to deliver strong punches at good speed; However like someone said before "there is no best style", so if i find myself laying on the ground, there's no much i could do against a bjj, and because i try to do straight moves, an aikidoka possibly could read my moves... conclusion: Try to practice EVERY existing style you possibly can.
DarthSalva 1 year ago
how do you expect to use this in real life? who punches like that smh
K20civicsirturbo 1 year ago
@K20civicsirturbo This is extremely effective. How can you NOt use this in real life. My JKD coach used this when sparring a black belt in karate and accidently split his eye open. It is simple trapping from a punch.
kyanzar 1 year ago
MMA in it's early forms were the testing platform for what works in the street. You KO your opponent and are ready for the next guy or you struggle with the first guy. It doesn't matter if it goes to the ground. If you don't shut down the first attacker you are facing 2 or more attackers. If you couldn't beat the first dude what makes you think you can beat him and his friends? TMA teaches you that your weak techniques will win. Life shows otherwise.
JKBBMF 1 year ago
i hate when people say bull shit like, oh any fighting style is deadly depending on the user. not true at all. karate, TKD, and especially ikido are fake in all the ikido videos the "masters" just grab the students hand the student does a front flip to make it seem like he did it. when mma first started, all fighting styles entered and only the few real styles made it. muay thai, BJJ, wrestling, val tudo. no one uses kung fu as it has been proven useless countless times bruce lee is an exception
itsGdublan 1 year ago
@itsGdublan actually the reason those martial arts are now obsolete is that no street fighter uses them any more. A street fighter in ancient times is a martial artist in ours. but now that no one uses martial arts that much anymore thats why and the martial arts that you named can be defeated and you are right aikido is useless but taekwondo is nothing but kickboxing and that works pretty well Not to offend you but you have to use logic before you say something
Nikolas100o10oao 1 year ago
dude no thats not true. street fighters used martial arts in asia first off all and that was against other martial artists or inexperienced fighters. the reason it is obsolete is because against styles like muay thai it is useless. i dont care what time period you look at. a muay thai fighter will always beat any other style. its fact. use your logic.
itsGdublan 1 year ago
@itsGdublan But Muay Thai doesn't have grappling if you get him on the ground he isn't going to do very well. Muay Thai isn't the best style because there is no best style
Nikolas100o10oao 1 year ago
muay thai fighters have clinching which is sort of like grappling but there is no way you could get one on the ground any way. there is a video of some dude using bjj against a muay thai fighter and when the guy dives in to grab the muay thai fighter's legs, he gets kneed multiple times and knocked out fast and easy.
itsGdublan 1 year ago
@itsGdublan Muay Thai is not enough against MMA. For one simple reason...Its only standing. And thinking Muay thai can not be taken to the ground from the clinch is very naive to say.
minasz 1 year ago
your very naive. this is what you said in quotes. "Muay Thai is not enough against MMA." i dont know how many kids i have to explain this simple concept to. mma is not a fighting style. it just means mixed martial arts because businesses like ufc and pride allow you to use any form of martial arts. when you find a muay thai fighter getting his ass kicked by someone using any form of grappling, send me the vid because i'd be interested to see that.
itsGdublan 1 year ago
@itsGdublan 1. Yes MMA is Mixed Martial Arts meaning there are more styles involved to get the job done. Im saying nothing bad agains Muay Thai as I originally come from Muay Thai, trained by Peter Smit. You give an example Muay Thai against Jiu Jiutsu, Well that is still not MMA. MMA has nothing to do with one style. Its a sportform like JKD is for the street. About giving an example. Dude, there has been thousends of examples in the UFC, Strikeforce, Cagerage, Valetudo ect.
minasz 1 year ago
@itsGdublan Check out fighters like Anderson Silva, Fedor, Lyotto Machida, GSP, BJ Penn to name a few. You ll see that ONE style is not enough. You need to be all round. Stand up fighters train in grappling and Grapplers train in Stand up. Thats that! And giving you an example. This is from Pride as Pride doenst excist anymore. Check out Lyoto Machida vs. Michael McDonald , but also check out, UFC, Strikeforce, Cagerage to name a few. Do you thing!
minasz 1 year ago
first of all anderson silva uses muay thai and kicks everyone's ass so your proving my point, second 1 still isnt enough in ufc or any other place for mma. but muay thai vs any other style will end up with muay thai on top. plus in a street fight knowing muay thai will be the best.
itsGdublan 1 year ago
@itsGdublan Second in a streetfight Muay Thai will not help you. Maybe you can fire one low kick but a good streetfighter will close the range immidiatlly. For streetfights you have to train in streetfighting. Jeet Kune Do, Krav Maga are very good systems for the streets. They learn you hitting the groin, or dirtygrapple like clawing the face and fishhooking the mouth, Jabbing the throat or headbutting the chin.
minasz 1 year ago
close the range? the last thing you want to do is get close to a muay thai fighter. if you "close the range" for even a second you will be pulled into a clinch and kneed in the face, ribs, and even groan so many times you wont get up. you clearly have know nothing about fighting. go watch wwe cuz thats where your head is at.
itsGdublan 1 year ago
These are good videos. I do not argue about styles- they all work in the right hands.
JKD is great for people like me who like the right jab and side kick.
But it is not the be-all end-all for everyone. People get too hung up on worshipping Bruce and on bashing MMA. I am not as good as either Lee himself or a pro MMA fighter, so I can be inspired by both.
mmns1979ns 1 year ago
this is a spin off from Wing Chun, i do wing chun and the moves ive seen here are all the same. I know the guy talks about leading with the strongest side, but wing chun you have no sides, you attack from the centre. JKD was just Bruce lee's name to sell it as his own in my opinion. And to all the guys who talk about MMA and that shit, wing chun Kung Fu isn't a sport like boxing, mai tai, bjj, or even karate. Its a weapon, you train to break and even kill your opponent to protect yourself.
firebladenut 1 year ago
@firebladenut i do wing chun as-well, I've been doing it for 5 weeks now and i have been taught a wing chun punch which is basically a jab that is not fully extended to generate more power and i've learnt lap sau and other defence deflections but i dont know if we have a hook or cross and i haven't learnt the trap, do u know about this?
DaTruthsHere 1 year ago
@DaTruthsHere wiing chun doesn't use hooks, you attack an opponents centre line which gives you speed and direct forward momentum. A hook or cross is probably the slowest punch you can throw and any one who has done wing chun for even a few months can block a hook and inflict serious pain on an opponent because you can use there power against them, your sifu will be able to help you on this, ask him to show you a hook block and a counter takedown and you will see why we dont use them, :)
firebladenut 1 year ago
@firebladenut Mai tais are cocktails.
ayso78 1 year ago
@MrJudo15 THANK YOU! All my friends that take BJJ don't seem to get that point, and MMA nowadays is starting to get overrated.
BASSFZz 1 year ago
Totaly wrong in terms of what they are teaching, JKD is using all the essences of the styles to suit you in whatevery enviroment and situation youare in. This is teaching how you HAVE to punch, or kick etc in JKD, and not what it truly means and is.
vishifishi01 1 year ago
bruce lee is called the father of mma by people in mma this cage fighter did a block that was a jkd block he said cage fighters just change it around so they can tackle their opponent to the floor.
jinkazamalovnat 1 year ago
@jinkazamalovnat I know what you're talking about. Technically there's not really blocks in JKD, but yeah, Bruce is the father of MMA
BASSFZz 1 year ago
I also believe certain takedowns are illegal as some Ninjutsu takedowns would be greatly more effective and so much more simple than BJJ techniques
Super3n1gma 2 years ago
For instance if i entered a UFC fight using Krav Maga techniques they wouldnt know how to defend themselves because they arent trained to defend from things like wrist locks, groin strikes and such..
Super3n1gma 2 years ago
And the people that you see in UFC are not trained in advanced martial arts such as wing chun and xinyiquan because UFC is a sport to entertain people and those martial arts are used as mostly dangerous situation protection.
Super3n1gma 2 years ago
There is no best style every style has a flaw. its best to have no style at all. as awakener said. Use no way as way and No style as style.
Super3n1gma 2 years ago
"best martial art" is Muay Thai mixed with BJJ - it showed alot of times that this combo cant be defeated, or just be defeated by pros.
h34p 2 years ago
@h34p Thats even debatable for MMA, but theres no way I'd want to use BJJ in a street fight. Muay Thai or Boxing and Wrestling for takedown defense would be a more street savy style. And JKD and some forms of Kung Fu have some techniques that can amplify Muay Thai and Boxing pretty well
DonMack279 2 years ago
@h34p The best Matial Art, if there is one, would be JKD, because it explores all ranges of combat, which is kicking, punching, trapping, and grappling, while Muay Thai only explores kicking, elbows, and knees, which is useless unless in close combat. BJJ, can be defeated if you know your body, and how it works.
BASSFZz 1 year ago
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h34p 1 year ago
@h34p What?
BASSFZz 1 year ago
he should train with wing chun masters like ip chun..
azn1980 2 years ago
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RebelWrestler45 2 years ago
That's why MMA is not a style, it is an amalgamation of the most effective facets of all martial arts. You seem to be under the premonition that MMA fighters do not train techniques that are intended to kill opponents. This is far from the truth. In fact, MMA schools incorporate the study of physiology and anatomy into training, but unlike traditional martial arts, we extract all the ineffective techniques and general mystique that accompanies traditional eastern martial arts.
RebelWrestler45 2 years ago
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In real life,this doesnt work!Sorry dude
MARKRICK32 2 years ago
i applaude you sir/maddame it's refreshing to see others have not forgotten this
Azeralas 2 years ago
It's easy to forget, especially in western society where people tend to want things handed to them on a plate. Few people have the deire to look deeper into their teachings and simply assume that kata and forms are to be taken at face value. Chinese martial arts were and are steeped in philosophy which is designed to encourage experimentation and thought, japanese arts are the same, the japanese term for this is bunkai.
Bruce elevated this way of thinking with Jeet Kune Do ...
aikifan77 2 years ago
cont ... but his only failure was to over estimate the western way of thinking. Us westerners look at something like JKD and want to be able to do it with as little effort and in as short a time as possible .... pssibly why there are so many McDojos out there ....I actually trained with someone who trained for 10 years on nothing but one kick, one punch andf one throw (after achieving 20 years of learning ) and he is awesome with those 3 techniques and discovered so many ways of applying them.
aikifan77 2 years ago
simonmarshall1
u sound like an unenlighten "kung fu guy"
agressive street fighter may flail wildly but they can be stop hit by 1 effective punch
there isn't any muay thai or wing chun is U as the way(your confident, speed & skill)
i personally don't see any problem on his demo to be apply in real life is only whether U can execute it successfully
ebizs 2 years ago
This technique is just about if you end up in that starting position, one punch and it'll rock them, and you can follow through with a straight blast, very effective
Colinthegoblin 2 years ago
compared to kick boxing and muay thia kung fu techniques are weak..very flashy but not very usabke in real ife
simonmarshall1 2 years ago
Depends. Something like Jeet Kune do or Wing Chun is very practical and powerful. But something like Mantis or Crane, I got to agree. Unless you are fighting someone else who does that form of kung fu, its just flashy. After all, Monks did use it primarily to stay fit.
BushidoBudo9000 2 years ago
Wing Chun is based on the crane. All of kung-fu comes from the basic 5 animal styles. The point was to learn the different elements of each animal style and combine them into something that suits you personally. All and I mean ALL oriental arts can be traced back to the original 5, even thai boxing. Jeet kune do isn't a style but a philosophy in which ALL techniques and methods may be used, the Wing Chun strikes are there because that was Lee's original style
aikifan77 2 years ago
I really don't think thats correct. Its just that everything I have seen like from Dave Insanto or from Jerry Poteet that there is a base teaching that bruce Lee directly taught them which had its own techniques, mechanics, a method. Which was kind of like a mix of Wing chun and boxing. Its not like a JKD teacher taught a mix of karate and judo and called it JKD. No there is a base form and etc.
BushidoBudo9000 2 years ago
If you study JKD and have a karate background that karate background is incorporated into your JKD, the same with judo or aikido ... even though there is quite a bit of aikido principle in JKD anyway. Whatever you already know you bring to the table. JKD was designed to be ever evolving but built on the irimi principles (entering/interception) The inherent strikes of JKD are simply what HE used and taught because they were what he knew. JKD is based entirely on principle,
aikifan77 2 years ago
u have obviously never been in an altercation... muay thai does not train in adrenal response. as soon as adrenalin kicks in ur motor skills become very basic n limited. i do traditional wing chun n take it from someone who has been in several fights. once a simple yet effective technique is trained into ur muscle memory, u react without thinking
NAMELESSWARRi0R 2 years ago
i just think all these traps etc wudnt work in a real life fight with an oppenent with flailing arms etc..it look good in demo with an oppenent who stands still but wud never be useful for real..im king fu guys can handle themseleves..i tried wing chun for over a year and hated it cuase it felt so unnnatural..so i gave it up for muay thai and never looked back..wwe wrestling is the best martial arts though imo ;)
simonmarshall1 2 years ago
there is no speculation anymore the UFC has cleared up what martial arts are good in real fight and what arent .the funny thing is the most important thing to know doesn't involve any puching ,kicking its called wrestling not hulk hogan style real wrestling also tia boxing and ju jittsu seem to be the best forms of training and yes simple technics do help they just look more sloppy in a real fight and they are less oviuos becuase your hiding your actions unlike when teaching them
zdogy1 2 years ago
UFC has rules......Real Fighting does not. Arts like Kung Fu, Karate, Ikido have moves that could kill anybody if done. Striking to the eyes, biting, ripping ears off, ripping off and destroying the testicles. These are nowhere to be found in organized sports and for obvious reasons. If it were a fight to the death fights would be over in seconds, not rounds. Every art is deadly in the right person's hands.
Rjackman84 2 years ago 37
@Rjackman84 you mean bullshido, not aikido, yes?
Jitkyundou 1 year ago
spoken like a true gentlemen. Seems like everytime there is a JKD video someone has to try to tear it down with their "MMA IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING IN THE WORLD!"@Rjackman84
pushdarock30 1 year ago
@Rjackman84 they dont work look at lyoto machida
CrunkKid911 1 year ago
@Rjackman84 plus all that is pussy stuff 2 do
CrunkKid911 1 year ago
@Rjackman84 rectification karatee and kung fu are combat sports which have competition. Ikido too those are all combat arts not saying that they re not effectif but you need a good amount of time to train in them and start really young. The one who is the most effectif around the world and easiest is Krav Maga
darkmacry 1 year ago
@Rjackman84 ohh please i got the deadliest martial art of them all its called gunsandammo
boxingisbest 1 year ago
@Rjackman84 dude its really annoying how people think mma is the top fighting and self defense style and have no idea how deadly silat, krav maga, kali , and kung fu are
asianboi1004 1 year ago
@asianboi1004 - MMA represents all martial-arts. Anderson Silva was training with Steven Seagal before his fight with Chael Sonnen. But Anderson Silva did not get a chance to use any Aikido. Cung Le, has a background in Sanda but also BJJ and Muay-Thai. Any art can be deadly but effective is the question. A Muay-Thai Lumpinee rated fighter can crush an unconditioned fighters skull with a single strike. MMA way of training is top because it prepares you against anything.
iApna 1 year ago
@asianboi1004 - Do some research on the roots of Krav Maga which I have a high respect for is essentially MMA. But its too tame for me its more for your average citizen. Not enough sparring in most classes. The roots of modern K-maga began in Czechoslovakia in the 1930's with Imi Lichtenfeld, an expert in boxing and wrestling.
Traditional Asian arts such as Wing Chun/Tsun and other styles are dieing. Even the Shaolin in this clip knows it and modernized his art to adapt.
/watch?v=LeP_AcmIzqU
iApna 1 year ago
@iApna i take mma so i think and i think i can judge whatever i want seriously people think mma is the shit just because its on t.v and majority of people use it thats only because america moves on seeing is believing they really should be more open-minded and yeah i do submission grappling too in mma and yes we use all sorts of submissions arm triangles, triangle choke, rear naked choke. doesnt mean we cant be beat by a karate or silat artist.
asianboi1004 1 year ago
@asianboi1004 - For sure, no doubt. The karate guy might have years of experience. I'm a MMA practitioner myself although better at Muay-Thai. My bro who is Thai practitioner split an MMA's fighters skull last year and fight was stopped in the first round. The MMA fighter tried to weave/bob and got caught with a Thai kick. His opponent forgot my bros was a Thai fighter for 15 years but new to MMA who has only "some" BJJ experience. Weaving/bobbing not very helpful against knees/Kicks.
iApna 1 year ago
@asianboi1004 - People like you judge MMA based on what they see on TV. Fighters are training off season and on season. In my last BJJ class we were practicing chokes, cutting off the blood supply to the brain to put our opponent to sleep. The instructor quickly showed how to change the choke into breaking the opponents neck if needed.
Here is a clip that gives you a basic overview of how an MMA fighter sees his opponent and trains.
/watch?v=-zA1Xt5N0pE
iApna 1 year ago
let me speak or type my mind.. First of, MMA is good i mean alrighty... but in streets, with 4 or 3 guys, you can't really take on them.. point is, MMA is just for one on one basis unlike martial arts.. PURE martial arts such as AIKIDO, KARATE, etc..So I do think MMA is better without MA. Because there is no art there. just pure kicking punching and shooting.. mind me, shooting a Martial artist, for instance, a silat or FMA it's a no no..no can do M's.but I'm not against MMA.it's just pure brute
Daredamunuga 1 year ago
@Daredamunuga Its not the style its the person who is doing it...Any style can be effective if you train to make it effective...as Bruce Lee said " Absorb what is usefull " Learn to use what works for you
mrmab19 1 year ago
@Rjackman84 Actually, real fights do have rules of sorts. Laws of physics for one. Human biology could be another. But then these should still be considered variables because, for example, a crew mate on a spacestation might start going nuts and you get in a fight but the laws of gravity won't apply. Or you may put someone in an armbar and pop their elbow out but the person just pops it back in again because they're so double jointed. But for practical reasons we teach these as constants.
2Jax 11 months ago
@Rjackman84 Referees are there to protect the fighters, if there were no referees or rules MMA fighters would use those dirty moves as well. Just look at Bas Rutten's bar fight videos.
ARandomCanadian 10 months ago
In jeet kune do martial art , its teach you what you should not do,you can do anything you want but its does not teach what you should do, this video should explain the way what the real jeet kune do explain.A lot of peoples out there learn a bit of jeet kune do stuff and claim themself a jkd expert.They don know enough yet what jkd is all about, its a very deep art as Bruce Lee have study ''TAO'' a very deep meaning which have study in china for more than 1,000 years ago.
vincent7125 10 months ago
@Rjackman84 I know its a year ago but.. Since "UFC" Is not a fighting style, your entire point is invalid for one. If you are talking about the style of "MMA" MMA, has moves that could kill, hence the rules in UFC and other event holding companies and no, not every art is deadly in the right persons hand. I can prove you wrong on that easy.
RainboColour 8 months ago
@RainboColour I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just curious how you would prove, "... not every art is deadly in the right person's hands."
The referees in the UFC are there by law to make sure fights are in compliance with the unified rules of MMA and to make sure fighters don't take unnecessary damage.
xjxm 3 months ago
how would you apply this technique against boxers
azn1980 2 years ago
I second that. I've also been in a few fights and I can honestly say that muscle memory is really what you train for. Blink of the eye reflexes. I do wish I took wing chun though. I would have been much faster with my grapples.
0Sphere0 2 years ago
es la linea de bruce lee_peru
mellacartavio 2 years ago
Бред ... Один удар показал и все пропёрлись, смешной народ ..
evgeniylee 2 years ago
on tibe virubil kak zadrota !
Fjedja 2 years ago
мы мудак я занимаюсь винг чун я дам пизды обоим
evgeniylee 2 years ago
jobnulsja? wing chun huinja posravneniju s JKD!
Fjedja 2 years ago
theres an old speed trick to grind your teeth in and out really fast so it sounds like an action movie punch, then match the speed. but honestly jeet kune do is like wing chun only more room between the fighters. this stuff looks good though im thankful he posts these videos its nice to watch.
bowerybaker 3 years ago
sounds kinda dumb but how do you train that it doesnt hurt your fist when you hit something like a training sack? thanks
markusWeid 3 years ago
the ideal of hitting a training sack is so that your fist becomes stronger. that's the idea of the shaolin monks. find a a bag or sack, throw some gravel or tiny crushed up rocks in there, and start punching for about an hour or so. monks do it for 2hours+, but for starters, i'd try 20-30 minutes a day, then work my way up. and a bit more advice, drink PLENTY of water before you start this workout.
WrestlingNFunny 2 years ago
dont u need to improve ur speed got any tips?
ninjabuuhda 3 years ago
Buy those weights you can grip on. Hold it and start punching... Buy 1 kg for a start. The next one you should get is 3kg once you gotten used to it. Then 5kg then to 10kg. Standard push-ups works too. But then you need to do it quick and fast. Just becareful not to hurt your wrist and elbows. Consider that a warning. Doing it fast sometimes can overwork your joints.
AhShaun 3 years ago 4
i have started punching with dumbels of 10kg now, but i think even more critical to speed is training your explosiveness by running in short bursts and quickly changing direction, and training the foot and hip work in a punching bag
mazdaplz 3 years ago
You can get special wrist weights that you dont have to hold up, theyre real handy.
martiallaw09 2 years ago
i have those too but i have only found in 2kg wrist weighs, and when you punch the weight tries to slide out of you hand hitting your wrist bone and rips the arm hair too unless you have long sleeves, it's not so comfortable for punching i found
mazdaplz 2 years ago
Why is this advanced jeet kune do, i learnt this in my second lesson, witch was today, and i have no previous martial art training.
But you should be careful practicing cause i got punched in the face and eye lol
TheBigG08 3 years ago
You answered your own question. Nicely done...
Put some ice on that thing!!!
JKDLIFER 3 years ago 3
guy makes a point. i just want to see them have a pak da combo with boxing, or muay thai..yeeaahh ..thatd be interesting. i kno you could do it.. but thatd be interesting yo see.. and you say pak sao is too close to narrow.. you dont talk like that in a fight... its flowing.. you dont say o i messed up or let me correct that hen your fighting or sparring.. either you've practiced it correctly.. perfect your stance.. so it shows in your fighting. you underestimate the character..
walking1way 3 years ago
Stance is to open and the Pak Sao dosen't clase enough to actually stop a low kick to the groin. On a good note suddenly your punching eliptically and from a vertical fist position what's all that about! And your Pak is not too telegraphic, however you have yet to master Non-intention, your too motor-set.
JunFanJimi 3 years ago
It's just showing how to do it. It doesn't HAVE to be right, just close enough.
FaytSaratome 3 years ago
What!! HAVE YOU LISTENED TO YOUR VERY OWN WORDS FaytSaratome? Lets remind you.
"It's just showing how to do it. It doesn't HAVE to be right, just close enough".
Just exactly how do you show how to do something no right!? Let me know.
JunFanJimi 3 years ago
. . .-_- Because you're suppose to make up your own style really.
FaytSaratome 3 years ago
Doh!!
JunFanJimi 3 years ago
ALSO this isn't showing how to do a STANCE now is it?
FaytSaratome 3 years ago
No your right it's not it's showing quite badly how to close and immobilise, without any forwards energy or compression.Nor has he defeated the opponent's defence as the opponent rear Pak's, he would have to continue to compound trap to do that.
JunFanJimi 3 years ago
Sigh... he was demonstrating one portion of what would otherwise be a compound technique. In a fight, you don't aim to trap and start doing chi sao with your opponent, you aim to score and finish. You are hardly limited to continue making a compound trap.
TruthWielder 2 years ago
Bruce Lee is cool.
sean77741111 3 years ago