It's really not hard to pick up girls. You just need to educate yourself and luckily, there's some sick guides out there. "The Game" by Neil Strauss started things off for me and most recently, I've been using the techniques from P.Box.
Here's what you need to do:
Step 1: Go to MackMethods. com
Step 2: Get the "pandoras box" program
Step 3: Use the tips and blend it in with your own twist
Picking up girls is a skill. Educate yourself and you'll laugh at how easy it is
It's really not hard to pick up girls. You just need to educate yourself and luckily, there's some sick guides out there. "The Game" by Neil Strauss started things off for me and most recently, I've been using the techniques from P.Box.
Here's what you need to do:
Step 1: Go to MackMethods. com
Step 2: Get the "pandoras box" program
Step 3: Use the tips and blend it in with your own twist
Picking up girls is a skill. Educate yourself and you'll laugh at how easy it is.
@robingill66 The best place to find wingmen is on The Attraction Forums. There's a section for Meetups, Wings, and Venues broken down by countries, states, and even cities. You'll definitely find help there! Just go to theattractionforums[dot]com
@Arenzoj The best place to find wingmen is on The Attraction Forums. There's a section for Meetups, Wings, and Venues broken down by countries, states, and even cities. You'll definitely find help there! Just go to theattractionforums[dot]com
@jaybloke100a Good question! Most guys don't realize just how important body language is, and that goes for Game and your regular life too. Unfortunately, it's nearly impossible to teach body language from a book; you have to SEE what the masters are doing. That's why Love Systems offers BEYOND WORDS: THE ART OF BODY LANGUAGE AND PHYSICAL ESCALATION, a DVD home study course. Check it out on the Love Systems[dot]com homepage - go to Products->Videos. There's nothing better on the subject!
@werbelloff You're right, that's a big logistical issue. As Savoy says, even he can't overcome logistics if they're entirely stacked against him. In your case, it will depend on where you are in the Triad Model. If you've proceeded through Attraction, Qualification, and Comfort, you can invite her. Tell her you want to show her X (something discussed in Comfort), or offer her a drink at your place.
@Gyro911 Women are NOT more concerned with looks than man. Why do think you see so many beautiful women on the arms of butt-ugly men? It's because women are attracted (subconsciously) to alpha male characteristics like power, confidence, leadership, etc.
There's only one thing, that can resume all this pua stuff into an real and functional formula to aproach and pick up. It's your humor, your confidence in yourself. Nobody can make you be one thing, that only they can. They're minds are set to be as good as they can think, not as good as you can understand, because you don't have to. But you have to understand that the humor, can make several changes in your way to pass a wholle day.
Savoy and Misery teach men how to have this logical system of doing things to women to get to X destination without much in the way of personal development or natural traits that attract and seduce. When you're well in tune with yourself you don't need to worry about XYZ model or ZXY trick. Women want direct, sincere men who open up to them. You beat the game by not playing a game in the first place.
@delizone99 Sorry, but I don't think you have a good grasp of what we do. Much of our teaching is about personal development and how to project those "natural traits that attract and seduce." It's all fine and good to tell guys to be "direct and sincere," but that's not really helpful advice to a guy who's too shy even to approach a woman, let alone carry on a conversation and generate attraction.
@tu4eva Factoring in the costs of divorce and then being right back where you started? Sounds like you'd be much better off taking a bootcamp and doing things the right way. :-)
@lovesystemstv that was an advise for the loosers, lol.. i don't need this shit.. i know how 2 pull a woman, thank you very much. But i like your scam..
It's a truly sad indictment on modern society when men have to resort paying thousands of dollars to these so called "seduction experts, PUA's, dating coaches etc, just to learn how to meet women.
@InspectorMontelbano1 It's true, our "modern society" has made meeting women very difficult for a lot of guys. Many people these days spend all their time in front of a computer and men often don't have the confidence to talk to women, let alone the skill or knowledge to be able to progress emotionally or physically. Thankfully we can help, and our thousands of satisfied students prove it. Paying thousands? More like investing in a lifetime of choice and happiness.
@lovesystemstv And what if the guy is ugly?, how on Earth are you going to teach an ugly guy how to be attractive to women, when women go by looks first? Teaching PUA to an ugly guy, is like trying to teach a 3 ft midget how to slam dunk in basket ball, guess what?, it's never going to happen.
Asking media to leave is reasonable, esp for a paid seminar. No paid-for instruction like this would let itself be filmed in entirety, but scumbag media will imply something it's not.
Mainstream media is so pathetic. They're more interested in putting their views across and imposing them than they are in conveying information professionally, neutrally and with integrity. This typical scumbag journo had a preconceived notion and set out to slam the community and its methods.
Attraction is just a skill like any other. You may develop on your own, in which case you are a natural or learn it from someone who knows how to do it, like a PUA.
The general public gets scared when they see something that hollywood told them it's "magic" become just a skill like any other.
Of course chemistry exists, but it is the least defining factor.
Hard time with the opposite sex? Go for it. Just don't let anyone make you feel bad just because you are trying to be happier.
@WhiteTigerRevenge It's great that you don't need any help with women, but there are many thousands of guys out there who do. Lots of guys can't even muster the confidence to say hi to a woman, let alone attract her and go further. So be honest, when you go out and get all the women, aren't you constantly walking by and seeing guys who don't have a clue? Don't you think they might benefit from what we teach? Guys, there's nothing pathetic about getting the help you need.
@lovesystemstv The real reason many men don't have the confidence to say hi to a woman/or approach them, is because too many modern women are rude stuck up bitches, who are about as approachable as a great white shark. It's not the men who are the problem, rather the poor attitude of modern women.
@WhiteTigerRevenge I agree. I always look for advice for free. Never paid for any of it. It's a great quest "digging for gold" on the internet - which is truly what it is. My average day now is 87% in terms of happiness. Still no lays yet, but I found something much better - the ability not to give a damn. For most people it's like needing to eat food or something, and they'd probably viciously fight for their GF because they still think they "got lucky" and couldn't bear to lose her.
Why was the camera asked to leave? It does make a bad appearance to invite the media to publicize and frame what you are doing in a positive light and then ask them to leave in order to hide something.
@BertyRussell The media had free access for nearly a week with us, 24 hours a day. It's not out of line to ask them to leave during one seminar in which we shared our highest level techniques with our students. We can't give everything away!
3000 I know it's a lot of money but hey is one of the best things you can learn, I'm not saying that this is the only way to learn but is a shortcut, learning from someone with more skills is it will be a huge help. Now there are many companies who teach how to pick up girls each of them have there own methods, these my are top ones Mystery, Style, and AFC Adam.
Unfortunately many of the techniques cannot be learned over a weekend of training. Often times this takes people a much longer period of time. Little fixes are possible but complete transformation is a bit of a stretch.
@JusticeSF While you may not be able to go from a shy, introverted virgin to a master pickup artist in one weekend, there are certainly lots of things you can learn to make a huge step forward. On our bootcamps we've seen guys who have never kissed a girl before getting phone numbers, making out in clubs, and even going home with women they just met. Don't ever put off training by underestimating what it could do for you or focusing on how long your journey will take.
@lovesystemstv Anything is possible when you go out at clubs/bars/etc but most of your students will fail more often then succeed. If the expectation to the student is to get laid in the weekend of training that is not an accurate representation of what is plausible. Most will fail and few will succeed that is reality.
@JusticeSF Expectations? If a student has the expectation that he's going to get laid during his bootcamp, he didn't get that from us. Nowhere do we make that claim. Sure, it happens sometimes, but we don't guarantee it. Many guys are just looking to learn the skill set that will allow them to approach and attract women comfortably and confidently.
@JusticeSF i agree 110% you can teach a bad baseball player to become just ok but they will never be derek jetter or ted williams.....see my other post which i made just mins ago.....if you really really are gonna mis the 3k go for it....other wise it is probably best spent in the ways i mentioned.
This thinking is so sadly clueless and the way of the loser.
If you take the time to study, you will get very good results. And regardless of what level you are at as a man, you will see improvement.
Another thing, this is very fair for men to do. Women have pushup bras, plastic surgery, mini-skirts, high heels, make up, womens' advice magazines and books... This just evens out the playing field a bit.
Shit. With all this public annoucement of our underground movement of pickup artists, wil lwomen develop an Anti-game thing? And will it ruin the chances of picking up women aware of our game?
@CPenha No. I think that's the basic answer. If you're picking up chicks based purely on some canned line or other, I have no idea how you're doing it. I consider myself to follow Mystery's basic model but there aren't any tricks or whatever to pick up on.
@CPenha That's a question we hear frequently at Love Systems as we get more and more media coverage. But when it comes down to it, we're teaching guys how to be their best selves, not just a list of cheesy pickup lines. No woman is ever going to say "You’re so interesting and exciting... did you learn Love Systems?" In fact, we have an article on this very topic. Just go to the Love Systems site, head to the Dating Advice section and search "Caught." Enjoy!
I don't think it's "unfair" at all really. Because a lot of these women wouldn't give guys the time of DAY, if the guys didnt know how to approach, tease, come off confident and/or interesting. How can it be "sneaky"? Obviously, women respond to the techniques these guys are teaching/using. That's not LoveSystems fault that they've figured out what women go for.
@johntkooz ... i agree with you 100%.. you definitely know the difference .And its cool to hear intelligent men like youself who understand that. And never let your guard down with ANY woman. Thanks!
Hey ccan someone tell me whats the diffrents, from the Love system Bootcamp, and The Art of Charm Bootcamp ? or know anybody who took either one of the bootcamp
Learning how to be good with women is perfectly decent and normal thing to do. In today's fast life, where everyone is busy getting a job...most people don't have the luxury of time and opportunity to become naturally ladies men... but i think it is respectable that someone would take out some time to learn how to improve himself and be a better attractive man..
It's not about seduction, thats the first problem I have with this, it's about learning how to be social in any situation. There are many men who have small social circles and therefore don't get the respect and attention that many of them deserve. It's a completely legitimation psychological training method.
Before people make these "special reports" they should probably know the back story so they don't look like dumbasses...
As much as i absolutely and positively love these systems, i hate how mainstream its becoming. I mean it used to be like a private club and closed doors...what happened? Its great that Savoy and everyone is making money off their passion now but i always used to think of the society like the movie hitch or fight club even. The first rule is you don't talk about it.
My belief is that main stream media will forever think this idea to be sleazy. Nothing you can do about it. In that sense, this community will remain exclusive to only those who truly believe in this concept. Kojo
I think this stuff is great. I don't find it sleazy at all, I don't understand why the abc people would think it is sleazy. If I didn't get a better understanding of women and dating from guy's like David Deangelo or at SoSauve.com or anything other sites that helps guys out in the area of our lives called dating, I wouldn't of had the success in my life that I have had. I have a very beautiful gf and our relationship is good.
Good stuff, gents. Savoy did a fantastic job of setting the record straight when abc tried to paint things negatively. Props. And of course, always a pleasure to kick it with Future in Vegas.
these are some great products, whether you're looking to find that one special girl, or get laid as much as possible.. And it seems there's a misconception stating that these things turn you into an asshole guy.. Which I don't think is true, it is possible to show confidence, leadership, and "alpha-male" characteristics, without being a jerk. These products often have you sprinkle some cockiness onto your normal personality in order to show confidence.
While the PUA community is a mixed bag when it comes to turning 'normal' men into *&^holes to get as many women as they can, while on the other hand being great for bringing shy guys out of themselves to be ABLE to meet and attract nice women and learn to be good boyfriends to begin with, Love Systems is definitely more towards the 'good' side
Thank god for Nick Savoy, He's the guardian angel of the 'Seduction scene', Style's (Neil Strauss) pretty awesome too, It's not all just horny guys in college. This thing actually helps get women into relationships.
You can't argue with Success... Best in Class... Women LOVE these guys ! (Rightly so) And their students who learn to be confident and authentic in any social situation.
Maybe it's not men who need help to learn how to flirt with the opposite sex. In America, women are second to last when it comes to making the first move.
@kidjosiah Even if women start (more than it is now) to make the first move, you still need to respond in a way that is attractive or just to make your own choice in meeting women. If you don't make the first move (and therefore learn how to do it) you will be picked only by your look which won't happen for a lot of men, and on top of that there is the fact you will get burned on the starting blocks by men with better social skills.
@kidjosiah That's not true, women 90% of the time make the first move with body language. They want to be hit on but we don't catch the signals. We are the ones, for the most part, that need to make the move. Read "The Definitive Book of Body Language", it will help understand what I'm talking about and it's a great book in general for relationships.
@kidjosiah, try to understand also that men need tactics becuz women have become so fucked up materialistically and otherwise. Theyre brainwashed by images they want to emulate on tv and mas. As a result, they expect more out of a man now than women did decades ago. Its a fucked up society that men live in now. Women are all bitches.
@davidxrodriguez I agree with you on that. All this social programming has made it a lot harder than it needs to be in order to get with women. Women are too worried about what their friends will think, what their family will think, what society tells them, etc. Rather than just going for what they truly want deep down. In the end, neither man or woman wins.
@kidjosiah This is true to. A lot of young american women are known to make things harder by relying on their friends or the media to make the most intimate of personal decisions for them. As a guy, you end up having to play a game, and that game gets tiring after a while.
I'm not saying this is a uniquely American problem, I'm just pointing it out for what it is.
@Futuregohan14 .. no, its actually a uniquely american problem. Otherwise, why do guys need game to get girls in the 1st place in the USA? The mystery method was created in america becuz women have become so fucked up and materialistic that you need game. And did you know that I the ONLY type of girl that I didnt have to game were foreign chicks? If its american, watch out!!
@davidxrodriguez You need some degree of game everywhere, dude. The problem in America is that, because of the reasons you outlined, things get blown out of proportion and things get more complicated than they need to be. The bar is artificially raised here. That bar does still exist in other places, but because it isn't exaggerated there guys don't feel as stressed to meet it and can be more natural. That's why relations are easier to establish(as you have experienced).
@Futuregohan14 .. i agree with you.. but from my experience, i never had to "game" foreign chicks cuz they were really cool and natural. But dont get me wrong. I've come across some knuckle heads. But for the most part, foreign chicks are really open and arent afraid like american girls. And anyway, foriegn chicks look a million times better than american girls anyway!
@davidxrodriguez About many foreign girls having better attitudes...well, we've got nothing to argue about there so long as you use some caution.
As for americanized girls being particularly bad, well, what can you say? Women in the USA have a level of power unseen in most parts of the world, so much that it borders on privilege in some ways. Some of the americanized girls were new to it-suddenly they were given privileges they never imagined having overseas. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@davidxrodriguez There are other countries with the same issues America has. Britain, for example, is known by many PUA's to have women with a similar(though slightly less exaggerated) attitude to American women. In fact, many "Western" countries have this problem to some extent(again, with America and maybe Britain and Australia/NZ at the top).
Game is also big in places like South Korea, and a gender imbalance is creating similar problems in parts of China.
@Futuregohan14 .. as for british girls, i can understand that they do exude a similar pattern to that of american girls. But i've come across cool ones too. But overall, brits are knuckle heads too. You got to sometimes frame yourself as the man in their eyes else theyll think your weak. Interestingly enough though, korean girls are one of the easiest girls to game from my experience.
@davidxrodriguez Anyway, I'm only saying all of this to warn you before you start traveling and finding these women in their homelands. No place is perfect. Yes, the grass might actually be somewhat greener on the otherside, but there are weeds to. Women in different countries have their issues to, and a handful of countries are as bad as the USA. Be careful specifically where you go and, when you get there, be careful to adapt accordingly for maximum success. A little game will help you.
@Futuregohan14 .. i dont plan on traveling to meet foreign girls.. I meet plenty of them in nyc. And let me say that theyre easy to talk to, MUCH easier than america bitches. I'm not saying all foreign girls are perfect, u'll find weeds along the way, like you say. But, theyre FARRRRR better to get along with and game than american AND americanized girls. But you know whats strange but true? Americanized girls are far WORSE than american girls themselves.
@davidxrodriguez Anyway, that's cool that you don't need to travel. But if you are doing this well with these foreign girls so far right here at home, traveling might be something to consider later on in your life. If you're hitting it off with these girls here, you might end up having a mind-bogglingly good time at "the source", so to speak.
Either way, good luck and congrats on discovering the merits of the abroad. A lot of men are in the dark about it.
@Futuregohan14 .. but you know what? Alot of men are now waking up to the fact that the grass is greener on the other side. And thats going to counter-balance the frustrations of dealing with american/americanized girls.
@kidjosiah.. youre right 100%. Thats why I go for foreign girls. My advice to you: if you want a good, fine girl, get her someplace other than here. And make sure she doesnt mix with americanized or american people here. Cuz once she becomes americanized, you can kiss her goodbye. Trust me, you dont want that girl to become a pamela anderson wanna be.
@davidxrodriguez I'm glad to see other guys getting this idea for foreign girls as well. I'm 19 and can't go anywhere yet(college) but its gonna be something I seriously consider later on in life.
Another tip to remember with this(based on the research I've done on expatriating): Find a country with culture/girls you like, and stay there at least on a semi-permanent basis. Don't bring that girl back here. You will be asking for trouble.
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Guys,
It's really not hard to pick up girls. You just need to educate yourself and luckily, there's some sick guides out there. "The Game" by Neil Strauss started things off for me and most recently, I've been using the techniques from P.Box.
Here's what you need to do:
Step 1: Go to MackMethods. com
Step 2: Get the "pandoras box" program
Step 3: Use the tips and blend it in with your own twist
Picking up girls is a skill. Educate yourself and you'll laugh at how easy it is
MMArtist99 2 months ago
savoy!!!
TheMatthewabbott 2 months ago
EPIC VOICE CRACK AT 0:02
0Ddawg22 2 months ago 2
"Is this any way to treat a lady, (but more importantly) is this for real?" LOOOOL
mochopz 3 months ago
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Guys,
It's really not hard to pick up girls. You just need to educate yourself and luckily, there's some sick guides out there. "The Game" by Neil Strauss started things off for me and most recently, I've been using the techniques from P.Box.
Here's what you need to do:
Step 1: Go to MackMethods. com
Step 2: Get the "pandoras box" program
Step 3: Use the tips and blend it in with your own twist
Picking up girls is a skill. Educate yourself and you'll laugh at how easy it is.
BillTheTrainer 4 months ago
CAJUN ON 7:13 this guy is freaking cool
EVILPANDESAL 4 months ago
@werbelloff I think every female is different, so you have to gauge the individuals perspective
Rules, games, models . . . . are all very mechanical
How about developing your own perspectives that are less like generic ingredient books
ChaChinnngK 4 months ago
Anybody Live in the Vancouver area?? if ya do give me a shout well go sarge n MASTER this GAME ahaha
robingill66 5 months ago
@robingill66 The best place to find wingmen is on The Attraction Forums. There's a section for Meetups, Wings, and Venues broken down by countries, states, and even cities. You'll definitely find help there! Just go to theattractionforums[dot]com
lovesystemstv 5 months ago
@robingill66 - I live in Vancouver and know a few people.
Chaoslogic 4 months ago
6:03 - He made out with her (presumably at the club) - those who know know exactly why he didn't score.
MedullaPancreas 5 months ago
@Gyro911 Ya, anyone can have sex. This system is about finding the most attractive woman you can get. A woman who is way out of your league.
CambridgeHeights 6 months ago
RICHMOND VA PUA HERE is anybody close to me? Would you like to sarge together?
Arenzoj 6 months ago
@Arenzoj The best place to find wingmen is on The Attraction Forums. There's a section for Meetups, Wings, and Venues broken down by countries, states, and even cities. You'll definitely find help there! Just go to theattractionforums[dot]com
lovesystemstv 6 months ago
04:13 ''like in a slutty or boring way?''... men may be physically stronger, women have sharp teeth too.
SteveDutchy 6 months ago
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SteveDutchy 6 months ago
Hey there Lovesysytems, what kind of books do you suggest on body language?
jaybloke100a 7 months ago
@jaybloke100a Good question! Most guys don't realize just how important body language is, and that goes for Game and your regular life too. Unfortunately, it's nearly impossible to teach body language from a book; you have to SEE what the masters are doing. That's why Love Systems offers BEYOND WORDS: THE ART OF BODY LANGUAGE AND PHYSICAL ESCALATION, a DVD home study course. Check it out on the Love Systems[dot]com homepage - go to Products->Videos. There's nothing better on the subject!
lovesystemstv 7 months ago
Terry Moran is so Jealous. Wussy + Jackass
PhantasmaAsaka 7 months ago
@werbelloff You're right, that's a big logistical issue. As Savoy says, even he can't overcome logistics if they're entirely stacked against him. In your case, it will depend on where you are in the Triad Model. If you've proceeded through Attraction, Qualification, and Comfort, you can invite her. Tell her you want to show her X (something discussed in Comfort), or offer her a drink at your place.
lovesystemstv 10 months ago
The interviewer is angry cus hes not getting laid haha
MasterEBeats 10 months ago 3
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Gyro911 6 months ago
@Gyro911 Women are NOT more concerned with looks than man. Why do think you see so many beautiful women on the arms of butt-ugly men? It's because women are attracted (subconsciously) to alpha male characteristics like power, confidence, leadership, etc.
CambridgeHeights 6 months ago
There's only one thing, that can resume all this pua stuff into an real and functional formula to aproach and pick up. It's your humor, your confidence in yourself. Nobody can make you be one thing, that only they can. They're minds are set to be as good as they can think, not as good as you can understand, because you don't have to. But you have to understand that the humor, can make several changes in your way to pass a wholle day.
Foxintube 10 months ago
Savoy and Misery teach men how to have this logical system of doing things to women to get to X destination without much in the way of personal development or natural traits that attract and seduce. When you're well in tune with yourself you don't need to worry about XYZ model or ZXY trick. Women want direct, sincere men who open up to them. You beat the game by not playing a game in the first place.
delizone99 10 months ago
@delizone99 Sorry, but I don't think you have a good grasp of what we do. Much of our teaching is about personal development and how to project those "natural traits that attract and seduce." It's all fine and good to tell guys to be "direct and sincere," but that's not really helpful advice to a guy who's too shy even to approach a woman, let alone carry on a conversation and generate attraction.
lovesystemstv 10 months ago
just pay for russian bride.. its cheaper that way lol
tu4eva 10 months ago
@tu4eva Factoring in the costs of divorce and then being right back where you started? Sounds like you'd be much better off taking a bootcamp and doing things the right way. :-)
lovesystemstv 10 months ago
@lovesystemstv that was an advise for the loosers, lol.. i don't need this shit.. i know how 2 pull a woman, thank you very much. But i like your scam..
tu4eva 10 months ago
It's a truly sad indictment on modern society when men have to resort paying thousands of dollars to these so called "seduction experts, PUA's, dating coaches etc, just to learn how to meet women.
PUA stands for: PRETTY USELESS ADVICE.
InspectorMontelbano1 10 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 It's true, our "modern society" has made meeting women very difficult for a lot of guys. Many people these days spend all their time in front of a computer and men often don't have the confidence to talk to women, let alone the skill or knowledge to be able to progress emotionally or physically. Thankfully we can help, and our thousands of satisfied students prove it. Paying thousands? More like investing in a lifetime of choice and happiness.
lovesystemstv 10 months ago
@lovesystemstv And what if the guy is ugly?, how on Earth are you going to teach an ugly guy how to be attractive to women, when women go by looks first? Teaching PUA to an ugly guy, is like trying to teach a 3 ft midget how to slam dunk in basket ball, guess what?, it's never going to happen.
InspectorMontelbano1 10 months ago
Asking media to leave is reasonable, esp for a paid seminar. No paid-for instruction like this would let itself be filmed in entirety, but scumbag media will imply something it's not.
Mainstream media is so pathetic. They're more interested in putting their views across and imposing them than they are in conveying information professionally, neutrally and with integrity. This typical scumbag journo had a preconceived notion and set out to slam the community and its methods.
jkirk1626 10 months ago
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jkirk1626 10 months ago
Attraction is just a skill like any other. You may develop on your own, in which case you are a natural or learn it from someone who knows how to do it, like a PUA.
The general public gets scared when they see something that hollywood told them it's "magic" become just a skill like any other.
Of course chemistry exists, but it is the least defining factor.
Hard time with the opposite sex? Go for it. Just don't let anyone make you feel bad just because you are trying to be happier.
2horas 11 months ago
If u need to pay $3,000 to learn how to talk to a girl, that is just pathetic.
WhiteTigerRevenge 11 months ago
@WhiteTigerRevenge It's great that you don't need any help with women, but there are many thousands of guys out there who do. Lots of guys can't even muster the confidence to say hi to a woman, let alone attract her and go further. So be honest, when you go out and get all the women, aren't you constantly walking by and seeing guys who don't have a clue? Don't you think they might benefit from what we teach? Guys, there's nothing pathetic about getting the help you need.
lovesystemstv 11 months ago
@lovesystemstv ill tell you this my friend going into SALES can show you all you need to learn to have a girl eating out of the palm of your hand
anexr 10 months ago
@anexr You could be right, but what about the 90% of guys out there who aren't in sales? They need to learn too! :-)
lovesystemstv 10 months ago
@lovesystemstv The real reason many men don't have the confidence to say hi to a woman/or approach them, is because too many modern women are rude stuck up bitches, who are about as approachable as a great white shark. It's not the men who are the problem, rather the poor attitude of modern women.
InspectorMontelbano1 10 months ago
@WhiteTigerRevenge I agree. I always look for advice for free. Never paid for any of it. It's a great quest "digging for gold" on the internet - which is truly what it is. My average day now is 87% in terms of happiness. Still no lays yet, but I found something much better - the ability not to give a damn. For most people it's like needing to eat food or something, and they'd probably viciously fight for their GF because they still think they "got lucky" and couldn't bear to lose her.
LyriMetacurl 11 months ago
Why was the camera asked to leave? It does make a bad appearance to invite the media to publicize and frame what you are doing in a positive light and then ask them to leave in order to hide something.
BertyRussell 11 months ago
@BertyRussell The media had free access for nearly a week with us, 24 hours a day. It's not out of line to ask them to leave during one seminar in which we shared our highest level techniques with our students. We can't give everything away!
lovesystemstv 11 months ago 2
BOOTY CAMP
rangeallovr 11 months ago 5
3000 I know it's a lot of money but hey is one of the best things you can learn, I'm not saying that this is the only way to learn but is a shortcut, learning from someone with more skills is it will be a huge help. Now there are many companies who teach how to pick up girls each of them have there own methods, these my are top ones Mystery, Style, and AFC Adam.
Nagatorinnegan26 11 months ago
Unfortunately many of the techniques cannot be learned over a weekend of training. Often times this takes people a much longer period of time. Little fixes are possible but complete transformation is a bit of a stretch.
JusticeSF 1 year ago
@JusticeSF While you may not be able to go from a shy, introverted virgin to a master pickup artist in one weekend, there are certainly lots of things you can learn to make a huge step forward. On our bootcamps we've seen guys who have never kissed a girl before getting phone numbers, making out in clubs, and even going home with women they just met. Don't ever put off training by underestimating what it could do for you or focusing on how long your journey will take.
lovesystemstv 1 year ago
@lovesystemstv Anything is possible when you go out at clubs/bars/etc but most of your students will fail more often then succeed. If the expectation to the student is to get laid in the weekend of training that is not an accurate representation of what is plausible. Most will fail and few will succeed that is reality.
JusticeSF 11 months ago
@JusticeSF Expectations? If a student has the expectation that he's going to get laid during his bootcamp, he didn't get that from us. Nowhere do we make that claim. Sure, it happens sometimes, but we don't guarantee it. Many guys are just looking to learn the skill set that will allow them to approach and attract women comfortably and confidently.
lovesystemstv 11 months ago
@JusticeSF i agree 110% you can teach a bad baseball player to become just ok but they will never be derek jetter or ted williams.....see my other post which i made just mins ago.....if you really really are gonna mis the 3k go for it....other wise it is probably best spent in the ways i mentioned.
renduke 6 months ago
U better have the money or the looks ... noting else matters.
mba2ceo 1 year ago
@mba2ceo
This thinking is so sadly clueless and the way of the loser.
If you take the time to study, you will get very good results. And regardless of what level you are at as a man, you will see improvement.
Another thing, this is very fair for men to do. Women have pushup bras, plastic surgery, mini-skirts, high heels, make up, womens' advice magazines and books... This just evens out the playing field a bit.
Sojujinn 11 months ago
$3000 !!, i can used that and enroll in college for a year
Jevan2010 1 year ago 6
@Jevan2010 and college chicks rule hehe
Checkmylifts 1 year ago
Can't believe I quit standing in line to the venue that night! Crap, how could I miss that!
Tarantay 1 year ago
theres only one way to describe this. jealousy. the only people who hate are the ones who cant do it
XxUPGMATAHASHIxX 1 year ago 3
Shit. With all this public annoucement of our underground movement of pickup artists, wil lwomen develop an Anti-game thing? And will it ruin the chances of picking up women aware of our game?
CPenha 1 year ago
@CPenha No. I think that's the basic answer. If you're picking up chicks based purely on some canned line or other, I have no idea how you're doing it. I consider myself to follow Mystery's basic model but there aren't any tricks or whatever to pick up on.
ASFX07 1 year ago
@CPenha That's a question we hear frequently at Love Systems as we get more and more media coverage. But when it comes down to it, we're teaching guys how to be their best selves, not just a list of cheesy pickup lines. No woman is ever going to say "You’re so interesting and exciting... did you learn Love Systems?" In fact, we have an article on this very topic. Just go to the Love Systems site, head to the Dating Advice section and search "Caught." Enjoy!
lovesystemstv 1 year ago 2
I don't think it's "unfair" at all really. Because a lot of these women wouldn't give guys the time of DAY, if the guys didnt know how to approach, tease, come off confident and/or interesting. How can it be "sneaky"? Obviously, women respond to the techniques these guys are teaching/using. That's not LoveSystems fault that they've figured out what women go for.
And whoah! Cajun @ 7:14 too.
TrueTalkTV 1 year ago
@johntkooz ... i agree with you 100%.. you definitely know the difference .And its cool to hear intelligent men like youself who understand that. And never let your guard down with ANY woman. Thanks!
davidxrodriguez 1 year ago
Hey ccan someone tell me whats the diffrents, from the Love system Bootcamp, and The Art of Charm Bootcamp ? or know anybody who took either one of the bootcamp
midwestguy12 1 year ago
Learning how to be good with women is perfectly decent and normal thing to do. In today's fast life, where everyone is busy getting a job...most people don't have the luxury of time and opportunity to become naturally ladies men... but i think it is respectable that someone would take out some time to learn how to improve himself and be a better attractive man..
rsaini1 1 year ago
"Is this any way to treat a lady? More importantly Is this for real?" Host
LMAO
mochopz 1 year ago
heeeey guys can you say me ..... what is the song's name in the video ..... it looks like a latin music
saiyanbushi 1 year ago
It's not about seduction, thats the first problem I have with this, it's about learning how to be social in any situation. There are many men who have small social circles and therefore don't get the respect and attention that many of them deserve. It's a completely legitimation psychological training method.
Before people make these "special reports" they should probably know the back story so they don't look like dumbasses...
GodOfMedia 1 year ago
As much as i absolutely and positively love these systems, i hate how mainstream its becoming. I mean it used to be like a private club and closed doors...what happened? Its great that Savoy and everyone is making money off their passion now but i always used to think of the society like the movie hitch or fight club even. The first rule is you don't talk about it.
Baugh34 1 year ago 3
@Baugh34 I totally agree bro, it was nice when it was quite an exclusive club
ernest1337wong 1 year ago
My belief is that main stream media will forever think this idea to be sleazy. Nothing you can do about it. In that sense, this community will remain exclusive to only those who truly believe in this concept. Kojo
jojoesimpson 1 year ago
Savoy FTW!! Exactly if they didn't work they wouldn't teach it :-)
markanthonyGQ 1 year ago
I think this stuff is great. I don't find it sleazy at all, I don't understand why the abc people would think it is sleazy. If I didn't get a better understanding of women and dating from guy's like David Deangelo or at SoSauve.com or anything other sites that helps guys out in the area of our lives called dating, I wouldn't of had the success in my life that I have had. I have a very beautiful gf and our relationship is good.
bkm79 1 year ago
Love systems is where its at! Its hella Helpful!
lotusdedart 1 year ago
great! this kind of social interaction course is what is missing from normal public schools.
Everyone is high school should have strong social skills and able to make friends and make lasting relationships.
Splurgendii 1 year ago
here are the secrets:
Confidence
Social butterfly
body language and
physical escalation <--this is the key to making her feel comfortable
jindagreatlee 1 year ago
Ya know say what you want, positive or negative, that guy almost had sex on a vending machine.
TheMelonColony 1 year ago
Good stuff, gents. Savoy did a fantastic job of setting the record straight when abc tried to paint things negatively. Props. And of course, always a pleasure to kick it with Future in Vegas.
djfujiyama 1 year ago 3
these are some great products, whether you're looking to find that one special girl, or get laid as much as possible.. And it seems there's a misconception stating that these things turn you into an asshole guy.. Which I don't think is true, it is possible to show confidence, leadership, and "alpha-male" characteristics, without being a jerk. These products often have you sprinkle some cockiness onto your normal personality in order to show confidence.
Pasc9 1 year ago 2
While the PUA community is a mixed bag when it comes to turning 'normal' men into *&^holes to get as many women as they can, while on the other hand being great for bringing shy guys out of themselves to be ABLE to meet and attract nice women and learn to be good boyfriends to begin with, Love Systems is definitely more towards the 'good' side
TurielD 1 year ago
Thank god for Nick Savoy, He's the guardian angel of the 'Seduction scene', Style's (Neil Strauss) pretty awesome too, It's not all just horny guys in college. This thing actually helps get women into relationships.
Goth3m3 1 year ago
I studied the mystery method, and have read the Love system material, and it definitely works.
Goth3m3 1 year ago
Nick Savoy has been defending Love Systems for years! Bravo! You made an excellent case!
Dynamox5 1 year ago
nice to see braddock is alive,
rgeeezie 1 year ago
You can't argue with Success... Best in Class... Women LOVE these guys ! (Rightly so) And their students who learn to be confident and authentic in any social situation.
LoveFreedomHonor 1 year ago 2
Nick Savoy is a hero.
RichBond75 1 year ago
Maybe it's not men who need help to learn how to flirt with the opposite sex. In America, women are second to last when it comes to making the first move.
kidjosiah 1 year ago 17
@kidjosiah Even if women start (more than it is now) to make the first move, you still need to respond in a way that is attractive or just to make your own choice in meeting women. If you don't make the first move (and therefore learn how to do it) you will be picked only by your look which won't happen for a lot of men, and on top of that there is the fact you will get burned on the starting blocks by men with better social skills.
acken2 1 year ago 21
@kidjosiah That's not true, women 90% of the time make the first move with body language. They want to be hit on but we don't catch the signals. We are the ones, for the most part, that need to make the move. Read "The Definitive Book of Body Language", it will help understand what I'm talking about and it's a great book in general for relationships.
anikinippon 1 year ago
@kidjosiah, try to understand also that men need tactics becuz women have become so fucked up materialistically and otherwise. Theyre brainwashed by images they want to emulate on tv and mas. As a result, they expect more out of a man now than women did decades ago. Its a fucked up society that men live in now. Women are all bitches.
davidxrodriguez 1 year ago 2
@davidxrodriguez I agree with you on that. All this social programming has made it a lot harder than it needs to be in order to get with women. Women are too worried about what their friends will think, what their family will think, what society tells them, etc. Rather than just going for what they truly want deep down. In the end, neither man or woman wins.
kidjosiah 1 year ago
@kidjosiah This is true to. A lot of young american women are known to make things harder by relying on their friends or the media to make the most intimate of personal decisions for them. As a guy, you end up having to play a game, and that game gets tiring after a while.
I'm not saying this is a uniquely American problem, I'm just pointing it out for what it is.
Futuregohan14 1 year ago
@Futuregohan14 .. no, its actually a uniquely american problem. Otherwise, why do guys need game to get girls in the 1st place in the USA? The mystery method was created in america becuz women have become so fucked up and materialistic that you need game. And did you know that I the ONLY type of girl that I didnt have to game were foreign chicks? If its american, watch out!!
davidxrodriguez 1 year ago
@davidxrodriguez You need some degree of game everywhere, dude. The problem in America is that, because of the reasons you outlined, things get blown out of proportion and things get more complicated than they need to be. The bar is artificially raised here. That bar does still exist in other places, but because it isn't exaggerated there guys don't feel as stressed to meet it and can be more natural. That's why relations are easier to establish(as you have experienced).
Futuregohan14 1 year ago
@Futuregohan14 .. i agree with you.. but from my experience, i never had to "game" foreign chicks cuz they were really cool and natural. But dont get me wrong. I've come across some knuckle heads. But for the most part, foreign chicks are really open and arent afraid like american girls. And anyway, foriegn chicks look a million times better than american girls anyway!
davidxrodriguez 1 year ago
@davidxrodriguez About many foreign girls having better attitudes...well, we've got nothing to argue about there so long as you use some caution.
As for americanized girls being particularly bad, well, what can you say? Women in the USA have a level of power unseen in most parts of the world, so much that it borders on privilege in some ways. Some of the americanized girls were new to it-suddenly they were given privileges they never imagined having overseas. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Futuregohan14 1 year ago
@davidxrodriguez There are other countries with the same issues America has. Britain, for example, is known by many PUA's to have women with a similar(though slightly less exaggerated) attitude to American women. In fact, many "Western" countries have this problem to some extent(again, with America and maybe Britain and Australia/NZ at the top).
Game is also big in places like South Korea, and a gender imbalance is creating similar problems in parts of China.
Futuregohan14 1 year ago
@Futuregohan14 .. as for british girls, i can understand that they do exude a similar pattern to that of american girls. But i've come across cool ones too. But overall, brits are knuckle heads too. You got to sometimes frame yourself as the man in their eyes else theyll think your weak. Interestingly enough though, korean girls are one of the easiest girls to game from my experience.
davidxrodriguez 1 year ago
@davidxrodriguez Anyway, I'm only saying all of this to warn you before you start traveling and finding these women in their homelands. No place is perfect. Yes, the grass might actually be somewhat greener on the otherside, but there are weeds to. Women in different countries have their issues to, and a handful of countries are as bad as the USA. Be careful specifically where you go and, when you get there, be careful to adapt accordingly for maximum success. A little game will help you.
Futuregohan14 1 year ago
@Futuregohan14 .. i dont plan on traveling to meet foreign girls.. I meet plenty of them in nyc. And let me say that theyre easy to talk to, MUCH easier than america bitches. I'm not saying all foreign girls are perfect, u'll find weeds along the way, like you say. But, theyre FARRRRR better to get along with and game than american AND americanized girls. But you know whats strange but true? Americanized girls are far WORSE than american girls themselves.
davidxrodriguez 1 year ago
@davidxrodriguez Anyway, that's cool that you don't need to travel. But if you are doing this well with these foreign girls so far right here at home, traveling might be something to consider later on in your life. If you're hitting it off with these girls here, you might end up having a mind-bogglingly good time at "the source", so to speak.
Either way, good luck and congrats on discovering the merits of the abroad. A lot of men are in the dark about it.
Futuregohan14 1 year ago
@Futuregohan14 .. but you know what? Alot of men are now waking up to the fact that the grass is greener on the other side. And thats going to counter-balance the frustrations of dealing with american/americanized girls.
davidxrodriguez 1 year ago
@kidjosiah.. youre right 100%. Thats why I go for foreign girls. My advice to you: if you want a good, fine girl, get her someplace other than here. And make sure she doesnt mix with americanized or american people here. Cuz once she becomes americanized, you can kiss her goodbye. Trust me, you dont want that girl to become a pamela anderson wanna be.
davidxrodriguez 1 year ago
@davidxrodriguez I'm glad to see other guys getting this idea for foreign girls as well. I'm 19 and can't go anywhere yet(college) but its gonna be something I seriously consider later on in life.
Another tip to remember with this(based on the research I've done on expatriating): Find a country with culture/girls you like, and stay there at least on a semi-permanent basis. Don't bring that girl back here. You will be asking for trouble.
Futuregohan14 1 year ago