This game was beautiful in every aspect, the battle system was intelligent but also not difficult to master, the graphics were beautiful and actually distinguished it from generic JRPGS, and it was meaty as hell, the game had tough enemies and dungeons that weren't a single corridor. Fanboys can suck it, this was FF tactics the movie not FF12, the ratings don't lie (near perfect scores across the board), the hate on this game is purely because it isn't anime, there, I said it.
@garethmanEXE ill have to agree with you 99%. the only thing that pissed me off about this game is the rediculous grind for certain things. (getting an ice entite halcyon made me want to kill a puppy). i also hated how instead of chests with good gear being there, you ran the chance of missing things if you didn't have a guide to help you find them. honestly who the hell would stumble upon certain things.
Never could beat this guy. had everyone at max levels too. got him to critical then he just decided to live up to his name and not die. raped them all
@TheMonotonousBastard I saw video Undying VS Vaan Level 99 solo(or something like),and he finished him off before he casted Perfect Defense by using Zodiark.
4:05 - 4:51 Best part of the song. You get a little bit of the melodies from the village and overworld themes mixed in there. Reminds me of the same music direction in the last two battles in Chrono Trigger. The music will then start to feel pleasant and uplifting right before it drops down to an epic battle to the death.
Worst soundtrack in the entire series. I hate this fucking composer. He uses literally the same 3-5 instruments for EVERY track for EVERY game he composes. It's fucking annoying. And none of his tracks are forgettable. Really lame final boss theme. Blegh.
@Multifridgeman No it does not. Every track in FFXII sounds exactly the same.
Well yeah, it's your opinion, and that's totally fine, but I think it's silly to deny that most of the tracks use the same exact instruments over and over again. For every game he composes.
@dandynood I've changed my mind about the composer since I started playing XII again. Some of his tracks are WONDERFUL but this is still a mostly bad final boss theme. The only good parts are when Vayne merges with Bahamut (that part of the music) and when the harp starts playing. Other than that, no. One of the weakest tracks in FFXII.
Was playing this on a new tv & sound system. Volume was up a bit too loud, but I kept going. Absolute best FF & perfect send off to the PS2 era. Now if there was just a HDv.
@prosepokemon I agree! His themes are always so atmospheric, and are soothing yet can drive the emotions also. His sound is different from Hamauzu (who I LOVELOVELOVE) in the way that everything feels...calmer, but still just as effective.
not nearly as hard as yaizmat... yaizmat has over 10million health... its hunt is called farewell to a legend, and you no that colloseum on the place you fight the zombie dragon thing? it happens there, when all other marks have been defeated
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I love how it is sooo dramatic. Starts off with that eerie feeling then it smacks you in the face of DRAMATIC TENSION that you are going to be fighting something bigger than life. XD
It is absolutely ridiculous that Final Fantasy, of all games, would be criticized for doing something different than its prequels.
The whole thing about Final Fantasy is that it's completely different with every game, yet nearly everyone in the fanbase bashes every other FF that isn't their favorite, on the grounds that it isn't exactly the same as that specific one.
@MyotisSeraphim its not that its doing something diffrent(when in fact, it isnt, there have been games with little to no towns and all have faired very badly as towns give the player a sense of direction and rest)its just that its doing it very,very badly.in fact the newer games past 10 are just graphics, theres no content or effort.and they take just too long to finish but all of the newer games are guilty of that.
@MyotisSeraphim ive played it!!owned it! got sick to dam death of it!12 is too dam long, boring and pointless, i mean the sidequests are ok but thats not an essential part of the game.or even a needed part.sidequests and hunts are all well and good but not that useful when u actually like the one thing a videogame is supposed to be about. the dam story!which it hasnt got!they both pointless fetch quests!
@MyotisSeraphim excuse me but if you take an rpg(which might i add role playing involves the word story)
and not bother with a story, u get one gigantice fetch quest or go to here quest or fight this quest.. a story in an rpg is what makes it gameplay and makes it worth. the only exeption to this rule is puzzle based rpgs(which most have storys anyway for the hell of it) or mmorpgs.and nearly every memorable game, is remembered for its story. get your facts right before you open your keybourd.
@MyotisSeraphim excuse me but its a ROLE PLAYING game. and you cant have role playing without astory because then it would be one gigantic fetch quest or kill this quest or whatever, which is boring in 10 mins.and every memorable game is remembered for its STORY,rarely is there another factor(ill admit some are membered for music)because if there was no story involved, then ppl would be bored in 10 mins. you cant be a real gamer,or ud know this already.(mmorpgs exception to story rule)
@kawrght I've been gaming almost all of my life. I have my 'facts' straight. Just because I do not consider story to be the most important part of a video -game- means I'm not a gamer? That's utter BS. Sorry, but just because I don't conform to what you consider appreciation of the aspect in question, does not mean that I'm not a gamer. I haven't insulted you in the slightest and here you are slinging insults such as that with me. I was giving my opinion and responding to yours. That's all.
@MyotisSeraphim seriously? are you guys really bothering to argue about each others' opinions, myotisSeraphim's opinion is that gameplay is more important to a game, while kawrght's opinion is that story is important most, I personally believe that games require both to be good (with some exceptions for different types of genres). both of you guys have opinions and so does everyone else in the world. Just let everyone have their opinion then everybody will be fine and dandy.
If you ask me, a video game is a story. A sotry where you move it along. I dont give a crap what the gameplay is like. The only reason I play games is for the story.
@zingodoom That's good, I enjoy them as well, I just don't think it's the defining factor is all. I honestly can't say I'd play a game soley for the story, I'd rather read a book for that. I think that my main point is that I like it when I myself am able to determine the direction the story goes via my own gameplay actions. That way, I get the best of both- a fun game and an interesting story.
After listening to the soundtrack of XII I'm beginning to realize that perhaps even XIII is amazing and each of the FFs are masterpieces but for different reasons. I think XII's music makes it the masterpiece :s and XIII has ridiculous design.. like the Eidolons. FF XIII had so much flashy stuff I just call it Final Ecstasy Glam Teens.
Is there a Final Fantasy that doesn't have amazing Final Battle music? FF6's Dancing Mad, FF7's One-Winged Angel, FF8's The Extreme, and FFX's Otherworld are all so memorable. Maybe FF9's (It wasn't horrible, just wasn't that memorable)
@GeminiBreaker The only ones that didn't stick with me were IV's and XIII's, but other than that I've played every one (Yes, all XI's too) and I have to agree with you that FF final boss themes are almost always amazing. Still working on XIV's (hoping I can finish what they've got while it's still free), but if it's anything like the rest of the music in the game it should be fantastic.
@GeminiBreaker FF13 and even if they are not Final Fantasy, play all of the Kingdom Hearts chapter the final battle music aren't at the level of FF, but the game is awesome
@Razorshadow73 It's your opinion and I respect that but really? The majority of KH tracks are repetitive, light-hearted Disney oriented themes which are far from epic. Only Forza de Male, Fragments of Sorrow, Mysterious Figure, and a few other KH tracks are at the top with FF music. Yoko Shimomura is a GREAT composer but I feel that the quality of her music is downgraded due to that Disney influence. I hope FFVersus13 allows her to be more consistent with her music. =/
@XxKuRoTsUbAsAxX Really, they are only repetitive in the sense that many of them use the same instruments. Actually, I just realised, I was generally talking about battle themes and such. But I still only see a Disney influence in those MEANT for Disney themes. Most of the FF tracks are nice, graceful and good for putting you to sleep (that is in both good and bad ways). But KH has lots of... Well, it's hard to explain. Hold on, I don't have enough characters remaining. I'll reply twice.
Huh, I know I haven't looked too much into this but I finally beat the game at levels 80 for 3 of my characters and allmost beat the game 100% but im pretty sure for the whoal final boss theme for me I didn't remember this theme track being played...It was more of a strange up beat harsh, idk its strange. Could somebody explain this to me? XD
Imperfect, but still great. Sure it played itself a bit, but I enjoyed the tweaking. And like any FF, grinding enough could overcome ANYTHING. Some of the characters were disproportionately characterised, and after the original creator left the ebautifully crafted plot just fell apart a bit. But it is still a very, very good game. If nothing else it had excellent production values - graphic quality, attention to detail, voice acting, and soundtrack. Apathetic, I understand, but haters?
Damn! Could this be any more epic!? Feels like this should be in a movie; During the beginning, everything is dark and the bad guy is slowly transforming into a demon and then at 1:55 , a flash, and the demon guy is standing right in front of the protagonist. Why is it I always do that?
@AvgnFanSite Close. It's actually a discussion, and he starts to transform at 1:55. In case you didn't know.
God, I'd hoped FFXII would skip the whole OWA effect. It was a bit more grown up than that I'd hoped. And very underwhelming as a fight too. Disappointed me, I adore this game.
How can someone not like this game, i mean the world Ivalice is so beautiful with all the temples and deserts, i could spend hours just walking around lol
all the final fantasy games have somthing special ff 12 was a great game and competed well against the realese of the xbox 360 i was not keen on the battle system but the story is sooo goood i love cid he must be the most insane chararacter ever
@RinoaDestiny Did you slap your brother? I would have. But, a lot of the music in Final Fantasy XII are very memorable AND hummable. I just LOVE the cerobi steppe music.
It's one of Sakimoto's best battle themes to date. That part always gets my blood pounding. It really feels like you have to fight and win without exception because if you don't, there's no second chance. At the same time, it's so heroic and epic that you know that you *will* and *can* win because you don't have a second chance. I also love how he wraps the two themes together.
I loved the bosses in this game....it took more than just a couple swings to bring it down! You actually had to strategize, time yourself, and constantly stay attuned to the ever-changing dynamics of the battle itself!
@Phoenix117UK So true. I remember fighting this boss and suddenly the music changes, and I was like "oh, crap." And I just paused the action and sat there for a second. It was epic.
@Andy345345345345 I definitely agree with giving bosses tons of health. Heck, they could have done what they did with Hell Wyrm and Tiamat, although the thing is, those battles are VERY time consuming. x_x It doesn't help that their Defense rises when they are near death either.
But, I never tried to let these things bother me too much. (This excludes Zodiark. I don't think I've ever encountered an extra boss that was such a pain to defeat >_<)
Despite the fact I had a hard time following XII's storyline, I still love it. The size and exploration of Ivalice, the detail in every location..One thing I love most about it is the soundtrack, and I will say, the final boss theme is epic. It gives me the feeling of what my characters (particularly Ashe) are fighting for, that Vayne has to be stopped no matter what.
One of my problems with the game, tho, is the invincibility bosses get.
I don't understand why people are hating this game so much. The day it came out, I wasted no time paying for mine when I had a PS2, and I don't regret playing it one bit. You could run around anywhere you wanted to, the combat system was different but easy to master. Sure, this game dealt with politics, but so what? The game's graphics were spectacular, good new gameplay wasn't so bad. The bosses and Espers were awesome. So why is everyone bitching?
@TheMonotonousBastard That would have been some badass shit if Sephiroth had that move, but FF7 would've been fuckin impossible to beat and the technology for Gigaflare Sword didn't exist yet.
i hold FF7 as the best (my opinion) but each FF brings something tothe table (except XIII ugh lol). Tactics and its remake War of the Lions (my second favorite) had an AMAZING politically oriented story and XII follows close behind (same director). Not many games have political influences, that separates 12 from the rest and I like that
@TheMonotonousBastard I will admit, FF7 is epic as hell, and second best FF I've played....Nothing tops FF6. and FFXIII....Ew...A female protagonist...That instantly turned me off the game-Hell they had a female protagonist for FF6, but the story didnt revolve around her, it revolved around the entire GINORMOUS party. I loved that game...I hope they remake it someday...<.<
I find the core battle mechanics interesting, but I don't consider this one of the better ff's. I consider myself an FF fan, but I've spent a long time gathering my critiques of it and not just "the story sucks" and "the gameplay is boring". It's true that there are conservative fans hating, but it's just as easy to conform to the anti-conformists and stick to "people hate anything new," which is a blanket statement that could also come back to attack you later
Can you fan boys shut up, you call your selfs FF fans but you don't love this?
Not loving XII means you guys are not FF fans at all. Always whining about the game, OMG BORING GAMEPLAY, OMG LAME STORY, OOOOOMMMMMGGGGG LIKE SERIOUSLY, WTH IS THIS *drag queen's voice*
My friend is a big fan of the final fantasy series and told me that this game was crap. I borrowed it for a week, and told him it was one of the best FF I've played. I took a look at his game with him, looked at his gambits....His phoenix downs were his #5 gambit...
After seeing how self-righteous, and whinny about video games they are. And after they keep hating on when Square does something different. I've come to this conclusion:
Final Fantasy fanboys/girls.....need to seriously grow a pair.
If you didn't feel anything for the characters then I think you might just hate people in general for the characters are realistic like us in the sense that they aren't demigods, they don't control the universe and the world doesn't give a shit about them, like our world. Despite that fact it doesn't stop them from pressing on and intervening when need be, like us.
@TheSirJecht I agree! Yet...isn't the whole "demi-god" non realistic feel what FF is about? This was a good attempt from Enix and it doesn't get the respect it deserves - since enix took over FF's havent been that great tbh, but over i accualy liked this game last boss was just 0.0 managed to get him into his final form then he just kapowned me lol -.- (did enix make X-2 btw?)
@miningchild: The people (or at least the big known employees) who made this game are all original Squaresoft employees who go back as far as FFI. Enix employees only work on Dragon Quest and other non FF or Square related titles. The demigod feeling is not what FF is about, it's about good vs evil, love, blah blah, etc but never about being overpowered at least for the protagonist story wise. That feeling is the villain's goal...
@miningchild: Yes you can summon a fire hell demon, get zombified and live and survive direct hits from meteors but the moment you get shot in a cut scene all of sudden nothing can be done by anyone and you die. This is why you still have hospitals and doctors in FF instead of just Hi-potions and cura, most are still regular people outside the battlefield screen.
@TheSirJecht rofl just looked over my comment (feel lil bit stupid now *scratches head*) dying ingame (rather than during cut scenes) isnt accually dying - your characters get KO'ed (knocked-out) but I do sometimes question this slight immortality - and forgive I didn't know that the same guys who worked for soft still work at enix
@miningchild: Yes I meant that immortality on the battle filed is different from cut scenes. Also it's okay many people think that Enix has ruined FF when in fact most of their employees stick with their IPs and rarely have a large role in FF games unless they were hired to company after the merge, which most who work on FF now weren't.
@chrisishot2 well i just beaten the game a few nights ago but i havent beaten the whole thing yet but im still playing theres alot of secerts in this game and im gonna try to do them so i hope i can do it soon ^_^
This Final Fantasy is an asbolutely incredible installment in the series. The depth of the story and how you could easily hypothetically relate it to the real world is astounding. That, in combination with fun, innovative gameplay and a divine soundtrack make this one amazing game.
This game was beautiful in every aspect, the battle system was intelligent but also not difficult to master, the graphics were beautiful and actually distinguished it from generic JRPGS, and it was meaty as hell, the game had tough enemies and dungeons that weren't a single corridor. Fanboys can suck it, this was FF tactics the movie not FF12, the ratings don't lie (near perfect scores across the board), the hate on this game is purely because it isn't anime, there, I said it.
garethmanEXE 2 weeks ago
@garethmanEXE ill have to agree with you 99%. the only thing that pissed me off about this game is the rediculous grind for certain things. (getting an ice entite halcyon made me want to kill a puppy). i also hated how instead of chests with good gear being there, you ran the chance of missing things if you didn't have a guide to help you find them. honestly who the hell would stumble upon certain things.
richanater99 2 weeks ago
HAHAHHAHAHAHHA
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@MyotisSeraphim I loved FFXIII *raises reinforced flame shield* Lol, To be honest I loved every FF... Except 5 >.>.
Peace1ProudCanadian 3 weeks ago
EPICEST BOSS MUSIC EVER. (For a better experience, use an a headset on max, close your eyes and Enjoy)
lucas13091996 1 month ago
「最終」って感じが伝わってくる
az0jackass 3 months ago
旋律が素晴らしい
Zeromus08 4 months ago
It's not Tournesol but Solaris.. sorry for that :x Well I really love this game and it's my favourite Final Fantasy.
madaraquoi 4 months ago
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madaraquoi 4 months ago
Vaan: Tournesol
Ashe: Zodiac Spear
Fran: Excalibur
Owned in 5 minutes
Problem Undying? :P
Schwartzdying 4 months ago
4:11 WOOT.
PinkFluffyChainsaw 5 months ago
Never could beat this guy. had everyone at max levels too. got him to critical then he just decided to live up to his name and not die. raped them all
MrCheckersmcgee 6 months ago
@MrCheckersmcgee Dude,I easly beated him on level 53.
36256564874847848487 6 months ago
@36256564874847848487 wtf! skillz much? lol.
i could only get him to critical. then his attacks started coming so fast
MrCheckersmcgee 6 months ago
@MrCheckersmcgee Just set up gambits to:
Ally=Any HP <50%-Elixir
Foe=Any-Attack
When he uses physical barrier,then change last gambit to-Foe=Any-Flare
If you still have trouble with him-just use zodiark deathblow 2-4 times.
36256564874847848487 6 months ago
@36256564874847848487 he's immune to quickenings and espers : P
TheMonotonousBastard 5 months ago
@TheMonotonousBastard Are you on drugs?They deal exactly same damage as on previsious bosses in Pharos.
36256564874847848487 5 months ago
@36256564874847848487 i tested it. used quickenings and espers without the palings. each did 0 damage on all attacks
TheMonotonousBastard 5 months ago
@36256564874847848487 there's also a video of the fight where he uses zodiark
TheMonotonousBastard 5 months ago
@TheMonotonousBastard I saw video Undying VS Vaan Level 99 solo(or something like),and he finished him off before he casted Perfect Defense by using Zodiark.
36256564874847848487 5 months ago
@36256564874847848487 idk, i remember trying it. oh well im fighting him again anyways
TheMonotonousBastard 5 months ago
@TheMonotonousBastard Have fun!To me It's one of most epic final bosses in 3D FF history
36256564874847848487 5 months ago
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4:05 - 4:51 Best part of the song. You get a little bit of the melodies from the village and overworld themes mixed in there. Reminds me of the same music direction in the last two battles in Chrono Trigger. The music will then start to feel pleasant and uplifting right before it drops down to an epic battle to the death.
agetro82 6 months ago
I don't know why, but the final boss music in FFXII remind me of the final boss music in Dragon Quest 8.
Zeipu1 6 months ago
4:24 to 5:05 plays somewhere else in the game; I'm certain I've heard it before. Does anyone know where?
mortensen222 6 months ago
@mortensen222
The Mosphoran Highwaste.
BertMcracken08 6 months ago
@BertMcracken08
Thank you!
mortensen222 6 months ago
@mortensen222 It's one of the themes used a lot throughout the game. I seem to remember it playing in a town or something.
Runeless 1 month ago
Worst soundtrack in the entire series. I hate this fucking composer. He uses literally the same 3-5 instruments for EVERY track for EVERY game he composes. It's fucking annoying. And none of his tracks are forgettable. Really lame final boss theme. Blegh.
yoyoyo88665 7 months ago
@yoyoyo88665
FFXII used the most amount of instruments in any Final Fantasy game.
I think you meant that his tracks ARE forgettable, but I don't think they are.
Besides, half of this song was a buildup cutscene.
Multifridgeman 7 months ago
@Multifridgeman No it does not. Every track in FFXII sounds exactly the same.
Well yeah, it's your opinion, and that's totally fine, but I think it's silly to deny that most of the tracks use the same exact instruments over and over again. For every game he composes.
yoyoyo88665 7 months ago
@yoyoyo88665 are you kidding? its like playing techno then after that orchestra, i think thats much worst
dandynood 6 months ago
@dandynood I've changed my mind about the composer since I started playing XII again. Some of his tracks are WONDERFUL but this is still a mostly bad final boss theme. The only good parts are when Vayne merges with Bahamut (that part of the music) and when the harp starts playing. Other than that, no. One of the weakest tracks in FFXII.
yoyoyo88665 6 months ago
@yoyoyo88665 i kinda agree, i think the final boss should be more tense
dandynood 6 months ago
Was playing this on a new tv & sound system. Volume was up a bit too loud, but I kept going. Absolute best FF & perfect send off to the PS2 era. Now if there was just a HDv.
mxanbr 7 months ago
Top Reasons why I/You/We should love Hitoshi Sakimoto's music:
1.) He composed some amazing JRPG/T (T for Tactical) RPGs (FFT/FFTA,FFXII(YMMV),Tactics Ogre, etc.)
2.) He ALSO composed challenging shumps (with his buddies) (Radiant Silvergun, Gradius V, etc.)
3.) He ALSO composed scores for an anime which is loosely based on William Shakespeare's greatest plays in world history. (Romeo X Juliet)
So, you agree?
prosepokemon 7 months ago
@prosepokemon
He should do Hamlet! This is the music I think about when ever I read Hamlet!
d1p 7 months ago
@prosepokemon I agree! His themes are always so atmospheric, and are soothing yet can drive the emotions also. His sound is different from Hamauzu (who I LOVELOVELOVE) in the way that everything feels...calmer, but still just as effective.
Runeless 1 month ago
better than FFXIII's final boss track -_-
crisiscoreffv2 7 months ago
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one of the worst games ever made
fierylava12 7 months ago
@fierylava12 maybe you are the worst one..
LuckyDaysOfRaya14 7 months ago
@fierylava12 according to you, but not according to the millions of people who love the game
dandynood 6 months ago
The music and Balthier's voice acting were the best parts of this game :)
MrTaffyMann 7 months ago 6
@MrTaffyMann
He IS the leading man, after all!
Who ever doesn't like Balthier are just a bunch of haters!
ToastaToast 2 months ago
the undying of course... hehe
lukaszx5ultimate 7 months ago
the undying theme song ^^
that was very problematic ... LOL
lukaszx5ultimate 7 months ago
God I remember hearing this when I vsed the final boss. Damn that was epic.
CnCsProductions 7 months ago
no boss theme will ever compare to one winged angel
1337foxs 7 months ago
Had this track pumping on my 5.1 DD surround sound....and DAMN! :D
DjUnoSagune 8 months ago
Meh... The game was alright and the music was great, but... the license board... I get what they where trying to do, but I just really disliked it.
GamingIdiot42Neo 8 months ago
@GamingIdiot42Neo then play Final fantasy xii international zodiac job system : (L)
xSpellSingerx 7 months ago
@xSpellSingerx where can I find that? I've been curious about it but I've never had the time to browse for it.
GamingIdiot42Neo 7 months ago
@GamingIdiot42Neo idk i live in argentina and i buy it in random place and in english.
xSpellSingerx 7 months ago
1:31
Komikmaker 8 months ago
2:10
wolfy1255 8 months ago
This fight was easy but annoying because he had perfect defense for so long
VegeXP 8 months ago
not nearly as hard as yaizmat... yaizmat has over 10million health... its hunt is called farewell to a legend, and you no that colloseum on the place you fight the zombie dragon thing? it happens there, when all other marks have been defeated
909thelegend909 8 months ago
@909thelegend909 its actually over 50 million hp
dandynood 7 months ago
Vayne Solidor, AKA Bahamut. epic.
GEISTCAKE 8 months ago
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ProjectEDENlog 8 months ago
I love how it is sooo dramatic. Starts off with that eerie feeling then it smacks you in the face of DRAMATIC TENSION that you are going to be fighting something bigger than life. XD
NodakJo2010 9 months ago
Hitoshi Sakimoto is amazing!
NATGOLEON 9 months ago
It is absolutely ridiculous that Final Fantasy, of all games, would be criticized for doing something different than its prequels.
The whole thing about Final Fantasy is that it's completely different with every game, yet nearly everyone in the fanbase bashes every other FF that isn't their favorite, on the grounds that it isn't exactly the same as that specific one.
MyotisSeraphim 9 months ago 17
@MyotisSeraphim its not that its doing something diffrent(when in fact, it isnt, there have been games with little to no towns and all have faired very badly as towns give the player a sense of direction and rest)its just that its doing it very,very badly.in fact the newer games past 10 are just graphics, theres no content or effort.and they take just too long to finish but all of the newer games are guilty of that.
kawrght 8 months ago
@kawrght
That isn't really true. With all the stuff in XI, being online, there's plenty of content.
XII has tons of hunts and sidequests and has a lot of things to find if you only go out and look for yourself.
And XIII is commonly viewed as easy by those that haven't gotten very far or don't try out the different paradigm combinations against certain foes.
MyotisSeraphim 8 months ago
@MyotisSeraphim ive played it!!owned it! got sick to dam death of it!12 is too dam long, boring and pointless, i mean the sidequests are ok but thats not an essential part of the game.or even a needed part.sidequests and hunts are all well and good but not that useful when u actually like the one thing a videogame is supposed to be about. the dam story!which it hasnt got!they both pointless fetch quests!
kawrght 8 months ago
@kawrght Excuse me? The one thing a videogame is supposed to be about is GAMEPLAY, not story.
I think you're confusing games with novels, which are an excellent choice of entertainment, but not the same thing.
MyotisSeraphim 8 months ago
@MyotisSeraphim excuse me but if you take an rpg(which might i add role playing involves the word story)
and not bother with a story, u get one gigantice fetch quest or go to here quest or fight this quest.. a story in an rpg is what makes it gameplay and makes it worth. the only exeption to this rule is puzzle based rpgs(which most have storys anyway for the hell of it) or mmorpgs.and nearly every memorable game, is remembered for its story. get your facts right before you open your keybourd.
kawrght 8 months ago
@MyotisSeraphim excuse me but its a ROLE PLAYING game. and you cant have role playing without astory because then it would be one gigantic fetch quest or kill this quest or whatever, which is boring in 10 mins.and every memorable game is remembered for its STORY,rarely is there another factor(ill admit some are membered for music)because if there was no story involved, then ppl would be bored in 10 mins. you cant be a real gamer,or ud know this already.(mmorpgs exception to story rule)
kawrght 8 months ago
@kawrght I've been gaming almost all of my life. I have my 'facts' straight. Just because I do not consider story to be the most important part of a video -game- means I'm not a gamer? That's utter BS. Sorry, but just because I don't conform to what you consider appreciation of the aspect in question, does not mean that I'm not a gamer. I haven't insulted you in the slightest and here you are slinging insults such as that with me. I was giving my opinion and responding to yours. That's all.
MyotisSeraphim 8 months ago
@MyotisSeraphim seriously? are you guys really bothering to argue about each others' opinions, myotisSeraphim's opinion is that gameplay is more important to a game, while kawrght's opinion is that story is important most, I personally believe that games require both to be good (with some exceptions for different types of genres). both of you guys have opinions and so does everyone else in the world. Just let everyone have their opinion then everybody will be fine and dandy.
GamingIdiot42Neo 8 months ago
@GamingIdiot42Neo I agree with you, they are both important indeed.
I just don't like being insulted, in this case someone that doesn't even know me claiming I'm not a gamer because I enjoy playing games.
MyotisSeraphim 8 months ago
@MyotisSeraphim
If you ask me, a video game is a story. A sotry where you move it along. I dont give a crap what the gameplay is like. The only reason I play games is for the story.
zingodoom 5 months ago
@zingodoom That's good, I enjoy them as well, I just don't think it's the defining factor is all. I honestly can't say I'd play a game soley for the story, I'd rather read a book for that. I think that my main point is that I like it when I myself am able to determine the direction the story goes via my own gameplay actions. That way, I get the best of both- a fun game and an interesting story.
MyotisSeraphim 5 months ago
@MyotisSeraphim EXACTLY!! and this is actually my first (and favorite) final fantasy.
DWNmetalman777 4 months ago
Well, if there's one thing that hasn't changed about the Final Fantasy games, it's the amazing music.
Deminaku 9 months ago
After listening to the soundtrack of XII I'm beginning to realize that perhaps even XIII is amazing and each of the FFs are masterpieces but for different reasons. I think XII's music makes it the masterpiece :s and XIII has ridiculous design.. like the Eidolons. FF XIII had so much flashy stuff I just call it Final Ecstasy Glam Teens.
salasvalor01 10 months ago 10
I love ffx and i always will there the best games ever created and ive finished everyone and i love every aspect off ffx
WArrIor2k10 11 months ago
This will be in Duodecim it won't be remixed along with The Dalmascan Estersand + Golmore Jungle
-least that's what Final Fantasy Wiki is saying
Aquiosis 11 months ago
Dear Square-Enix, please do not remix this song in Dissidia 012!
B2thelastoise 11 months ago
Is there a Final Fantasy that doesn't have amazing Final Battle music? FF6's Dancing Mad, FF7's One-Winged Angel, FF8's The Extreme, and FFX's Otherworld are all so memorable. Maybe FF9's (It wasn't horrible, just wasn't that memorable)
GeminiBreaker 11 months ago
@GeminiBreaker The only ones that didn't stick with me were IV's and XIII's, but other than that I've played every one (Yes, all XI's too) and I have to agree with you that FF final boss themes are almost always amazing. Still working on XIV's (hoping I can finish what they've got while it's still free), but if it's anything like the rest of the music in the game it should be fantastic.
thebirthdaybomb 11 months ago
@GeminiBreaker
To me Born Anew (FF13) was really awesome!
XGiftedGamerX 11 months ago
@GeminiBreaker FF13 and even if they are not Final Fantasy, play all of the Kingdom Hearts chapter the final battle music aren't at the level of FF, but the game is awesome
strhal1990 11 months ago
@strhal1990 in my opinion, KH tracks are far better than FF, though Square Enix has this awesome ability to choose epic music for their top games ;)
Razorshadow73 10 months ago
@Razorshadow73 It's your opinion and I respect that but really? The majority of KH tracks are repetitive, light-hearted Disney oriented themes which are far from epic. Only Forza de Male, Fragments of Sorrow, Mysterious Figure, and a few other KH tracks are at the top with FF music. Yoko Shimomura is a GREAT composer but I feel that the quality of her music is downgraded due to that Disney influence. I hope FFVersus13 allows her to be more consistent with her music. =/
XxKuRoTsUbAsAxX 10 months ago
@XxKuRoTsUbAsAxX Really, they are only repetitive in the sense that many of them use the same instruments. Actually, I just realised, I was generally talking about battle themes and such. But I still only see a Disney influence in those MEANT for Disney themes. Most of the FF tracks are nice, graceful and good for putting you to sleep (that is in both good and bad ways). But KH has lots of... Well, it's hard to explain. Hold on, I don't have enough characters remaining. I'll reply twice.
Razorshadow73 10 months ago
@Razorshadow73 Haha if you're going to send me a long message, just pm me. :)
XxKuRoTsUbAsAxX 10 months ago
@XxKuRoTsUbAsAxX lol, ok
Razorshadow73 10 months ago
4:17-4:51 IS SO EPIC i could listen to it all day!
TheLoveGames202 11 months ago
Best final boss song right there. Nuf' said
GadKing 11 months ago
In my opinion one of the best songs composed in a Final Fantasy game. The build up is amazing!
B2thelastoise 11 months ago
I think I lost some of my hearing. I remember 1:55 and 1:58 being higher. Gah! What do I do?
gigante1593 1 year ago
vayne must be in dissidia 012!!!!
villains are geting out numbered....
drigan12345 1 year ago 2
i plan to make a map on halo reach that is based on the undying(not really. more like inspired), so if anyone wants me to give details, let me know.
nerfhunterseph 1 year ago
I blast this shit when I roll up in the hood.
TheKetsuban 1 year ago
@TheKetsuban hahahahahahaha
aznmetalmunkey 1 year ago
Vayne was a complete bitch in the last bit because all you needed to do was defend yourself untill his supershield was gone.
And his Overlimit Terraflare and Gigasword was a right pain in the ass aswell.
ProfessorLuke17 1 year ago
AWSOME AND ORGASMIC...
XDDDDD
mermelao88 1 year ago
Damn i love 4:17-4:50
ImLikeEpic 1 year ago
THE BEST THEME IN ALL FFXII WAS THIS ONE!!! :D
YAIZMATASAN 1 year ago 3
Huh, I know I haven't looked too much into this but I finally beat the game at levels 80 for 3 of my characters and allmost beat the game 100% but im pretty sure for the whoal final boss theme for me I didn't remember this theme track being played...It was more of a strange up beat harsh, idk its strange. Could somebody explain this to me? XD
Kingshadowclock 1 year ago
suikoden 2,ffvii,ffx,ffxii,persona 3 and 4 have the best music for me
kevoist 1 year ago
@kevoist FFIX and Mana Kehmia: Alchemist of al-revis OST is good too.... Dragon Quest 8 sound great for the intrumental but im a bit disapointed...
RedMetaria 1 year ago
Imperfect, but still great. Sure it played itself a bit, but I enjoyed the tweaking. And like any FF, grinding enough could overcome ANYTHING. Some of the characters were disproportionately characterised, and after the original creator left the ebautifully crafted plot just fell apart a bit. But it is still a very, very good game. If nothing else it had excellent production values - graphic quality, attention to detail, voice acting, and soundtrack. Apathetic, I understand, but haters?
Schemilix 1 year ago
As it turns out, Penelo was the most important character in any FF game!! Who knew?
yodaman676 1 year ago 2
バブルチェーンをつけてあとはひたすら攻撃＆回復。
アルテマソードだったかな？あれには注意。ガンピット設定しとけば寝ながらでも勝てる。武器＆防具はバーフォンハイムのもので十分。
rnbqw057 1 year ago 7
@rnbqw057 アルテマソードを持ってなかった,でも３年前ごろこのゲームを遊んだ。昔の事ｗ
NickAura 1 year ago 5
@rnbqw057 また覚えた、源氏の小手とマサムネを持った。本当に強い兼用
あなたは？
NickAura 1 year ago 7
Damn! Could this be any more epic!? Feels like this should be in a movie; During the beginning, everything is dark and the bad guy is slowly transforming into a demon and then at 1:55 , a flash, and the demon guy is standing right in front of the protagonist. Why is it I always do that?
AvgnFanSite 1 year ago
@AvgnFanSite Close. It's actually a discussion, and he starts to transform at 1:55. In case you didn't know.
God, I'd hoped FFXII would skip the whole OWA effect. It was a bit more grown up than that I'd hoped. And very underwhelming as a fight too. Disappointed me, I adore this game.
Schemilix 1 year ago
@Schemilix I wasn't talking about the game, I was saying how it would be awesome if this were in a movie and that happened.
AvgnFanSite 1 year ago
@AvgnFanSite Ah my mistake. Would you like me to delete the comment?
Schemilix 1 year ago
@Schemilix Your choice.
AvgnFanSite 1 year ago
How can someone not like this game, i mean the world Ivalice is so beautiful with all the temples and deserts, i could spend hours just walking around lol
xblaze900x 1 year ago
all the final fantasy games have somthing special ff 12 was a great game and competed well against the realese of the xbox 360 i was not keen on the battle system but the story is sooo goood i love cid he must be the most insane chararacter ever
xeonaught10 1 year ago
ff12 best ff forever
kili202 1 year ago
I must say, the song really does become epic at 4:10 at that point i finally realized how F****** epic this game actually is.
sondrelk 1 year ago 2
I believe one of the most epic tracks in the history of video games begins at 0:00.
MrDarkthorne 1 year ago 41
@RinoaDestiny Did you slap your brother? I would have. But, a lot of the music in Final Fantasy XII are very memorable AND hummable. I just LOVE the cerobi steppe music.
GiantBulbasaur 1 year ago
This song actually makes me cry because it's so fucking beautiful.
pathsounds 1 year ago
This battle theme needs to be in Dissidia Duodecim! =D
XenonVincent7 1 year ago
Final Fantasy fan here, this is a great game...put simply folks.
So what If it doesn't carry on FF tradition or contain glimpses of original square enix games? It's really great, I love it!
tekken3y0sh1m1tsu1 1 year ago
@Strife56
It's one of Sakimoto's best battle themes to date. That part always gets my blood pounding. It really feels like you have to fight and win without exception because if you don't, there's no second chance. At the same time, it's so heroic and epic that you know that you *will* and *can* win because you don't have a second chance. I also love how he wraps the two themes together.
RinoaDestiny 1 year ago
I loved the bosses in this game....it took more than just a couple swings to bring it down! You actually had to strategize, time yourself, and constantly stay attuned to the ever-changing dynamics of the battle itself!
EricB042389 1 year ago
FF12 was great, its just the story line was a bit boring... Funnest boss to fight on the game is the Hell Wyrm for sure.
GoLesly64 1 year ago
This tracks pretty average at first, then it just kicks your ass after 4:10
Phoenix117UK 1 year ago 39
@Phoenix117UK agreed!
NickAura 1 year ago 5
@Phoenix117UK Actually I think after the 1:35 is when the music starts reving the engine.
Dudevampy 1 year ago
@Phoenix117UK Thats because everything before that was used in the cut scene before it XD.
Superlightningblade 1 year ago
@Phoenix117UK So true. I remember fighting this boss and suddenly the music changes, and I was like "oh, crap." And I just paused the action and sat there for a second. It was epic.
joshofstl 10 months ago
@Andy345345345345 I definitely agree with giving bosses tons of health. Heck, they could have done what they did with Hell Wyrm and Tiamat, although the thing is, those battles are VERY time consuming. x_x It doesn't help that their Defense rises when they are near death either.
But, I never tried to let these things bother me too much. (This excludes Zodiark. I don't think I've ever encountered an extra boss that was such a pain to defeat >_<)
mokechan 1 year ago
@mokechan HARDCORE GAMERS THESE DAYS!!!!!
dandynood 1 year ago
Despite the fact I had a hard time following XII's storyline, I still love it. The size and exploration of Ivalice, the detail in every location..One thing I love most about it is the soundtrack, and I will say, the final boss theme is epic. It gives me the feeling of what my characters (particularly Ashe) are fighting for, that Vayne has to be stopped no matter what.
One of my problems with the game, tho, is the invincibility bosses get.
mokechan 1 year ago
I don't understand why people are hating this game so much. The day it came out, I wasted no time paying for mine when I had a PS2, and I don't regret playing it one bit. You could run around anywhere you wanted to, the combat system was different but easy to master. Sure, this game dealt with politics, but so what? The game's graphics were spectacular, good new gameplay wasn't so bad. The bosses and Espers were awesome. So why is everyone bitching?
Dudevampy 1 year ago
@Dudevampy they're mad because no other boss has an attack called gigaflare sword. i even wish sephy had that
TheMonotonousBastard 1 year ago
@TheMonotonousBastard That would have been some badass shit if Sephiroth had that move, but FF7 would've been fuckin impossible to beat and the technology for Gigaflare Sword didn't exist yet.
Dudevampy 1 year ago
its ok but not final boss worthy
awjb3 1 year ago
@awjb3 not final boss worthy my asa
dandynood 1 year ago
@awjb3 MY ASS LA
dandynood 1 year ago
i hold FF7 as the best (my opinion) but each FF brings something tothe table (except XIII ugh lol). Tactics and its remake War of the Lions (my second favorite) had an AMAZING politically oriented story and XII follows close behind (same director). Not many games have political influences, that separates 12 from the rest and I like that
TheMonotonousBastard 1 year ago
@TheMonotonousBastard I will admit, FF7 is epic as hell, and second best FF I've played....Nothing tops FF6. and FFXIII....Ew...A female protagonist...That instantly turned me off the game-Hell they had a female protagonist for FF6, but the story didnt revolve around her, it revolved around the entire GINORMOUS party. I loved that game...I hope they remake it someday...<.<
AlucardHellsing97 1 year ago
@AlucardHellsing97 i dont see why having a female protagonist should turn you off. the reason terra is likeable is because she's well written
TheMonotonousBastard 1 year ago 2
The storyline in ff12 was probably the worst of any final fantasy game but I really enjoyed the gameplay and the music as always :D
Cloudproud21 1 year ago
Game is solid. Every characters have a direct use to the story. And they all are interesting to use and play with. I love this game. It was-
No.
It IS epic.
CanadianDong 1 year ago
The Undying uses GigaOmegaTetragravitronian-HydropneumonomaticFlarePulsarBlade Mk.II
Rygith 1 year ago
I find the core battle mechanics interesting, but I don't consider this one of the better ff's. I consider myself an FF fan, but I've spent a long time gathering my critiques of it and not just "the story sucks" and "the gameplay is boring". It's true that there are conservative fans hating, but it's just as easy to conform to the anti-conformists and stick to "people hate anything new," which is a blanket statement that could also come back to attack you later
Rodlikespants 1 year ago
Can you fan boys shut up, you call your selfs FF fans but you don't love this?
Not loving XII means you guys are not FF fans at all. Always whining about the game, OMG BORING GAMEPLAY, OMG LAME STORY, OOOOOMMMMMGGGGG LIKE SERIOUSLY, WTH IS THIS *drag queen's voice*
dandynood 1 year ago
such an epic song....while the pic is of a man's crotch....
losthaze 1 year ago
@losthaze it's not just any man's crotch, its JUDGE GABRANTH's CROTCH!! HIS CROTCH!!
HakoneDrift 9 months ago 2
My friend is a big fan of the final fantasy series and told me that this game was crap. I borrowed it for a week, and told him it was one of the best FF I've played. I took a look at his game with him, looked at his gambits....His phoenix downs were his #5 gambit...
smithcm14 1 year ago
I hate to say this, but it's true.
After seeing how self-righteous, and whinny about video games they are. And after they keep hating on when Square does something different. I've come to this conclusion:
Final Fantasy fanboys/girls.....need to seriously grow a pair.
omegasoldier382 1 year ago 8
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@omegasoldier382 Truer words were never spoken.
themanofthepast 1 year ago
@omegasoldier382
Fanboys ruin everything, not just final fantasy
People hated FF XIII while i loved it :P
DragonElf01 1 year ago
it's a remix of dancing mad from ff6
welcometobadboy 1 year ago
this is so genius!
xxxGandhixxx 1 year ago
meh ....still doesnt beat the stuff square soft came up with
alxzanki 1 year ago
m...must... waste... 130 hours...to....complete this game.. once again... beyond the storyline....AHHHHH*runs to hook up ps2*
killer109536 1 year ago 3
If you didn't feel anything for the characters then I think you might just hate people in general for the characters are realistic like us in the sense that they aren't demigods, they don't control the universe and the world doesn't give a shit about them, like our world. Despite that fact it doesn't stop them from pressing on and intervening when need be, like us.
TheSirJecht 1 year ago
@TheSirJecht
They also don't have rabbit ears and a ghetto booty. Like me.
strikerk 1 year ago
@TheSirJecht I agree! Yet...isn't the whole "demi-god" non realistic feel what FF is about? This was a good attempt from Enix and it doesn't get the respect it deserves - since enix took over FF's havent been that great tbh, but over i accualy liked this game last boss was just 0.0 managed to get him into his final form then he just kapowned me lol -.- (did enix make X-2 btw?)
miningchild 1 year ago
@miningchild: The people (or at least the big known employees) who made this game are all original Squaresoft employees who go back as far as FFI. Enix employees only work on Dragon Quest and other non FF or Square related titles. The demigod feeling is not what FF is about, it's about good vs evil, love, blah blah, etc but never about being overpowered at least for the protagonist story wise. That feeling is the villain's goal...
TheSirJecht 1 year ago
@miningchild: Yes you can summon a fire hell demon, get zombified and live and survive direct hits from meteors but the moment you get shot in a cut scene all of sudden nothing can be done by anyone and you die. This is why you still have hospitals and doctors in FF instead of just Hi-potions and cura, most are still regular people outside the battlefield screen.
TheSirJecht 1 year ago
@TheSirJecht rofl just looked over my comment (feel lil bit stupid now *scratches head*) dying ingame (rather than during cut scenes) isnt accually dying - your characters get KO'ed (knocked-out) but I do sometimes question this slight immortality - and forgive I didn't know that the same guys who worked for soft still work at enix
miningchild 1 year ago
@miningchild: Yes I meant that immortality on the battle filed is different from cut scenes. Also it's okay many people think that Enix has ruined FF when in fact most of their employees stick with their IPs and rarely have a large role in FF games unless they were hired to company after the merge, which most who work on FF now weren't.
TheSirJecht 1 year ago
@Strife56 Wanna be my friend -.- xD
nrtoking4729 1 year ago
@chrisishot2 well i just beaten the game a few nights ago but i havent beaten the whole thing yet but im still playing theres alot of secerts in this game and im gonna try to do them so i hope i can do it soon ^_^
massdestruction46 1 year ago
thumbs up if you beat this whole game :)
chrisishot2 1 year ago 3
@chrisishot2 i beat it (: so easyyy :D
xilovemyjdm 1 year ago
@Strife56
It is, this masterpiece has a lot of content, the general composition is very, very rich. I want an arrange version of this.
DynaDash 1 year ago
This Final Fantasy is an asbolutely incredible installment in the series. The depth of the story and how you could easily hypothetically relate it to the real world is astounding. That, in combination with fun, innovative gameplay and a divine soundtrack make this one amazing game.
This song is quite simply magnificent.
MrDarkthorne 1 year ago
@Stellarcirclefive LOL ture ture :P
knightpnyou 1 year ago
@Strife56 sends chills up and down my spine when it hits that mark..
fatboy10121 1 year ago
why is ths pic zoomed in on the dude's crouch LOL
knightpnyou 1 year ago
@knightpnyou Because we all love staring at Gabranth's junk :D
Stellarcirclefive 1 year ago