Fair Use and Cultural Development

[presspasstv]

Check out the Press Pass Tv Video " Fair Use for Fair Play"

[TolstoyKafkaEvsky]

Why hasn't this video been rated higher? This is COMPLETELY relevant to recent issues here, this thing should have AT LEAST 11K views!

[kenrg]

Thanks - I guess people prefer rants over art history lessons.

[pietrosammarco]

@kenrg yeah it's weird that there are any thumbs down... what's there to disagree with here? Yes, perhaps you need to make your video flashier! Just kidding

[DigitalTrucker]

@pietrosammarco It's probably from Sony or BMI

[pietrosammarco]

@kenrg yeah it's weird that there are any thumbs down... what's there to disagree with here? Yes, perhaps you need to make your video flashier! Just kidding

[FUNKMODE]

Very, very well done. If only we could rely on people to think not react.

[kenrg]

Thinking is too much trouble ;^)

[FUNKMODE]

Speakin of thinkin ... we spend a boatload (crapload, wideload - you can choose your metaphor) of time watch yours and others copyright videos in the past 48 hours. We hadn't realized that regular folks were having videos taken down for having soundtracks. We were even more surprised that something as complicated and corporate as "sync licenses" entered the conversation. I'm sure the tween dancing in their bedrooms will be all over those. They'll become the new hot thing!

[Annaconda1984]

was interesting to watch

[kenrg]

Thanks!

[citizenstand]

you are skilled in the way of fair use. i is kind of sad sometimes though. i had an idea for a painting yet before i could paint it i saw it on the cover of a new yorker! just gotta paint quicker i guess :) happy thanksgiving ken!

[kenrg]

Speed painting (and an open fax line to the copyright office) is definitely the answer. Thanks and a happy one right back at you.

[mollyarabella]

The vid's so beautiful I keep coming back every now and again for another look.

[kenrg]

Cool - Thanks!

[groovytimes]

Kenrg is the only guy Id come back to Youtube for!

What the fuck is this Audio Preview button? Man thats wierd...

[kenrg]

Kenrg? Fuck him! I wouldn't come back to YT for that idiot.

[filemen2]

I think it's so you can put in

stuff like "Mike Hunt" and "Haywood

Jablomi" and LYAO

[LadyDiWolfe]

Those are good examples (and beautiful artworks). Thank you for sharing. :)

[kenrg]

Thanks - I had fun putting it all together

[mollyarabella]

This is great vid. Thank you.

[kenrg]

Thank you!

[mollyarabella]

You're welcome.

[battim]

never see around my youtube page...people still talk about you in the comments...lol

[kenrg]

I've been a lousy 'Tuber lately, no time to watch videos some days, and only a few on others. I've got a lot of catching up to do, when my schedule permits... like, maybe after New Years...

[battim]

awesome vlog kenrrrrrrrrrrrrrrg

[kenrg]

Thank youuuuuuuuu

[Natakash1]

the burning power of Kenergy; just may be the future source of interpritive knowledge.

what would drive you to create a video on this subject? Might your motive be from another "Fair Use" presentation?

great vid; you're like a Nat Geo narrorator n.n

[kenrg]

I guess I'm just obsessed with this topic. And, maybe I wanted to see if it would be deleted ;^)

[Natakash1]

i can see why someone would be obessive of it. and i'll just ask myself; why did you want to see if it would be deleted?

[21stCenturyCat]

so, no such thing as true originality then...

[kenrg]

Nope, not at all. Your videos should stand as proof of that. ... Just Kidding!!!

[KevyNova]

Very informative and interesting. Great video!

But I am curious as to where you draw the line on song plagiarism...

[kenrg]

Thanks. As to songs, I draw the line at anything resembling "Afternoon Delight" by the Starland Vocal Band. We don't need to experience anything like that again. Ever.

[3CoolKats]

Very interesting video. I didn't really know all those well known pieces of art had predecessors of a sort. I really liked the old west MacDonalds:)

[kenrg]

Before modern copyright laws, the artists ran wild!!! ;^)

[missdivinestalls]

I'm still not letting you use those naked pics of me as your screen captures. I know they are hella hot but they are copywrited to me. Srsly ;p

[kenrg]

Don't worry, I'm not using those pix of you as screen captures - I've blown them up and have had them printed onto shower curtains. I sell them at the local swap meet for $10 each. But if you really want to push the copyright complaint, I'll split the profit with you 60/40.

[andymooseman]

Excellent video Ken & very well argued as well.

The Simpsons are always referencing other 'art' :)

[kenrg]

Thanks - I could have done an entire video just on Simpsons art references... in fact, maybe that's not a bad idea... ;^)

[andymooseman]

I look forward to seeing it. WooHoo :)

[MissTruly]

Great video, Ken. Now to apply that same thought to music...

[kenrg]

Exactly... the paintings are just to illustrate the point (no pun intended), but it goes for all the arts - even vlogging ;^)

[STC4blues]

This is an EXCELLENT piece of work, Ken. What YouTube is all about.

[kenrg]

Thank you!

[Evilspartacus]

Beyond quality. ★★★★★

[kenrg]

Now, if you go beyond, is it still quality, or is it no longer quality? ;^)

[mikma]

I really liked this video...MIKMA WAS HERE

[kenrg]

Thanks!

[OhCurt]

Wow, I never made the connection between that Simpsons moment and the Dempsey fight.

Excellent job!

[kenrg]

The Simpsons are great for art references - There are sites devoted to finding and cataloging all of them.

[blackturtleus]

Awesome presentation!!! I think that re-purposing and re-contextualizing previous works is a legitimate mode of self-expression. Thanks for putting these ideas into historical perspective!

[kenrg]

Thank you - Now we'll see how this video gets re-purposed by others...

[glennpw]

Nice job - I will show this in my entertainment law class this week.

[kenrg]

Cool! Thanks!

[PappyStu]

Funny how I only hear Attorneys or Bureaucrats worry about infringement as a rule... It has been my experience that artists rarely view other artists as competition...

Well watched my old Friend

[kenrg]

Very true - I didn't even mention Picasso, who was the most notorious "borrower" of 20th century art. Quoting another artist in a new work is just a continuation of the conversation - kinda like vlogging...

[cyberfreak77]

*****!

[kenrg]

Thank you!

[brignoni68]

Very cool, Ken! Thank you.

[kenrg]

Thanks!

[LiberalViewer]

5 stars and added to favorites!

I'm always up for a video advocating for fair use and your video makes a good point about the positive effect fair use has on a culture. Of course, fair use is a species of free speech and free speech almost inevitably increases the vitality of the communication to which it is applied.

Thanks for making and uploading this video :-)

[kenrg]

Thank you! On this subject a positive rating from you really means a lot.

[hellorodney]

FIVE STARS,,,,thanks

[kenrg]

Thank you, sir!

[ralfonzo83]

*tears in my eyes*

[kenrg]

Sorry, I was just cutting onions for dinner.

[crawleykakes]

Hey can I use this ?

[kenrg]

You may certainly base a new original work on this, borrowing liberally. I wonder how this would sound as a blues...

[ournationalspace]

well made argument

[kenrg]

Thanks - But who's arguing with me?

[liz1060]

Right on, Ken! I can't call myself an artist but I've been a crafter almost my entire life.  Without building on and borrowing from all the different skills, styles and designs crafts pretty much wouldn't exist. In fact, isn't the whole civilized world built on the work of those before us?

[kenrg]

"... isn't the whole civilized world built on the work of those before us?" - That's pretty much the case. There hasn't been an original idea for at least 3,500 years.

[garouHH]

I wish I had the artistic vision to create a video based on this one. :)

[kenrg]

Give it a try! I promise not to sue you.

[thizizliz]

That was a really good explanation as well as a fun look at a lot of great works. Cool. Funny how times have changed, eh?

[kenrg]

Thanks - It was fun to make, as well (how many times do you get to include Van Gogh and Homer Simpson in the same three minute vlog?)

[ajdpadbury]

Very, VERY interesting, Ken! I wonder when the first ever case of "Suing for breach of copyright" was ever recorded?:)

[kenrg]

Very good question! I'll have to look into that!

[SanieClaws]

Thanks for making this video. You're cool.

[kenrg]

Thanks. I do what I can ;^)

[NorCalCorsello]

Fantastic! I really like this video! The problem is that the Art world has largely been swallowed by the Entertainment industry. Since the Entertainment industry is strictly a business, and driven by the dollar, their primary concern is for protecting their property rather than being concerned with the development of culture and art. A long time mantra of mine, "Art should be free." Now by this, I mean the sharing of art, I understand materials need to be paid for.

[kenrg]

Thanks - True, that the current DMCA wars are not at all about art, but the copyright issues and laws behind them are the same. Art wants to be free; artists need money for the liquor store.

[yellowlabrador]

beautiful video. An essay in pictures. An elog?

[kenrg]

Essay vlog? Evlog about art... evalog? The evolution of vlogging... evolog? Oh, forget it. It's just a video ;^)

[anakin1814]

And the rest of the YT videos out there are devologs?

[kenrg]

Are we not vloggers? We are devo!

[anakin1814]

Devoluvlogging?

[anakin1814]

Amazing work Ken! I have to check my art history books about the Bass Ale and Rock 'Em Sock Robot references, but otherwise your points are dead on! Imagine trying to hind those influences and what effect that would have on future generations. It's a shame our media companies of today still can't grasp or understand the importance of this in a Web 2.0 world. Great, great work. (Love the Bass Ale thing! LOL)

[kenrg]

Thanks - I kinda figured you might like this one ... and it was a complete accident that the Bass Ale label made the thumbnail for this, really!

[Bigpineapple]

that was really impressive! You have a good voice over....voice(couldn't think of anything to say!) as well, you ever thought about going into voice over work?

[kenrg]

I did do college radio about 100 years ago, but never seriously went after any voice work. Personally, I hate my voice (as most people do), and think it's gotten worse in recent years.

[garouHH]

Sorry to disappoint you, you'd make a great storytelling uncle. Well, voice-wise at least, with you I'd always be afraid that the children would suddenly run to their parents screaming. :)

[kenrg]

I'll have you know that I rarely terrify my nephews... except when I'm driving.

[lisasimpson]

This was freaking awesome!

[kenrg]

Well, thanks!

[EddyBergman]

That was an interesting point you made.

[kenrg]

Think Viacom will find it interesting? ;^)

[EddyBergman]

Haha, we'll have to wait and see. =]

[bohogirl1]

very well put and i enjoyed the visuals.

[kenrg]

Thanks - I had fun choosing which paintings to use to illustrate the point.

[Pookieftw]

That was an excellent account of historical and modern "fair use". Surprisingly I had never thought about it from an art perspective. Well done.

[kenrg]

Thanks - And back then, nobody sued each other for stealing their ideas. No DMCA notices for Van Gogh...

[freitasex]

Great video

[kenrg]

Thanks!

[samszeman]

some great artwork there and great vid , i especially like the picture at 1:43

[kenrg]

Yeah, that's Russel Brutsche - he's a local artist in Santa Cruz. Each year at "open studios" I look forward to seeing his latest work.