An Alternative To Pulling Guard When Grappling On The Knees

[jtbullfitghter]

Excellent technique...but you might want to show your students how to breakfall properly

[monacorxxx]

Ga3

[poolboyinla]

Why do so many bjj guys want to start on their knees?

[meatheadcanada]

@poolboyinla It could be many reasons! Newer students can easily get injured if they don't know what they are doing. If it's a big class there might not be much room for standing take downs. They might not have proper mats so take downs on hard mats can be quit painful ect..

[WillingToPooNvm]

will the scissor sweep work if the opponent has a knee up?

[hosmanc]

These are so nice thank you!

[CraneFistFighter]

thanks for sharing these!

[MrRkellz]

i did the scissor and butterfly sweep tonight in no gi class from knee position. worked like a charm

[ThatsMrTimex2You]

Thank you so much, the scissor sweep worked i used it today :)

[MorgunTung]

good idea!

[kamikazefighta]

very practical. I don't know why most people don't try this. If I pull guard/half guard, I like to attempt an arm drag.

[paragonx11]

For the tripod sweep, you want to have the ankle as close to your hip as possible giving your opponent no or very little room so that he doesn't kick forward and you losing his ankle. In your video you gave him more than enough room for him to kick free.

[aliphillips1]

when i started training mma i thought i was cool for like 5 years, then i had an epiphany a few weeks ago...it looks freakin gay

[josh1212121]

@aliphillips1 mma is gay? fighting is gay? no, must be you

[aliphillips1]

@josh1212121 two sweaty guys rolling around in nothing but small shorts, shoving their crotches in each other's faces? also you seem to not understand my sentence...it LOOKS gay...not that it is gay, it LOOKS gay...obviously youve taken too many punches to the head to read properly, another downside.

[josh1212121]

@aliphillips1 so trying to hurt someone by extending their joints or choking them out looks gay? how is that possible. is trying to kill someone gay too. you say it looks gay cause your only looking at what the guys are wearing and how their bodies are positioned. its like a guy in a military uniform is in front of you and you see his shoes are color yellow and you go "oh, he looks gay". mma looks gay? look at it as a whole and not just their bodies

[aliphillips1]

@josh1212121 yea i am saying that, congratulations

[l3054]

@aliphillips1 you must be pretty stupid not to notice it for 5 years and i dont think it looks gay cause noones getting fucked in the ass or having gay sex its not gay its a martial art and you seem to be very gay minded

[aliphillips1]

@l3054 i like cock

[GHRepresent]

the standing one is much better and more useful . thx

[GHRepresent]

what the use of this? i think guy get's on the bottom , work his guard and the other work top. u never start from ur knees in competition or on the streets

[karrasxk]

@GHRepresent You're never wearing a gi, no shoes, working on mats, and competing for points on the streets either... what's the use in being closed minded?

[shotocrazymonkey]

Awesomeness

[ParkourAndreyutzu]

good

[Blasfulmous]

if you were holding my gi and dropped down like that, I would go straight for an armbar.

[mrblackford672]

@Blasfulmous you should post a video because i would seriously like to see that.... seriously, i cant picture it

[nkkny1]

I'm going to sweep instead of pulling guard from now on. As a white belt we always just want to be in a good position and think of what's going on NOW as opposed to what the next few steps ahead will be. Thanks for the insight!

[Tonyklick]

00:48 if that was a competition I would just grab your left foot and push you over: takedown - 2 pts :)

[MrMZaccone]

@Tonyklick Wow! Why don't you make a video and show us that?

[renato037]

@Tonyklick the fight dont start in the ground man

sorry

[jorgemarr]

I really like your approach to teaching. I have been able to show my daughter this moves. You are very thorough in your explanations Thankyou! The large variety of moves in juijitsu allow you to choose those moves that work for you, not all of them might be for you. My daugther is the smallest in her class. knowing that she can use this sweep against her larger opponents is awsome. Again it might not work for you, but for some of us it does! Thankyou Stephan!

[RightWingCon81]

I don't get the point of this video. It's teaching you to win during a rolling seccion, great, if when you roll at school your goal is only to win and not to learn. In a comp I won't start on my knees and I won't have this option really so it's useless for a comp, or for a street fight and it doesn't really do anything to help me improve. Unless you want to just beat that dickhead in class you don;t like by tricking him.

[DrShak2009]

@RightWingCon81 And it's absolutely impossible to end up on your knees facing an opponent in a competition.

[RightWingCon81]

@DrShak2009 I see you've never competed. Impossible? NO! Unlikely? YES! This is clearly a bunch of moves designed to beat guys at the school, that is of no use to me other than an ego boost. Show how to do a takedown, or how to pull guard from standing, something that can be used, I have never been knee to knee with another guy in a comp, have you?

[buffbode]

@RightWingCon81 I think you fail to see what they are talking about. When you are scrambling, you are knee to knee. If I throw you and you are getting up off the ground, your knee will touch the ground before you stand up. So yeah I see knee to knee a lot during competition when scrambling.

[RightWingCon81]

@buffbode If you throw me and I'm getting up on my knees you will most likly be on YOUR feet. Also, I could always stand up in base, which is how you're supposed to get up. Let's say you CAN use this in a competition. I'm not saying it won't come up at all, but how often do you think it will come up? Not very often, he says it in the begining, that this is for sparing, I don't want to be the fastest guy on MY mat, I want to be the guy with the medal.

[MrCroMega]

@RightWingCon81 When you are in the gym though it's silly when everyone just pulls guard... I actually wish he showed a few more takedowns from the knees.

[RightWingCon81]

@MrCroMega I don't think it's silly. Pulling guard helps you to develope a good guard. I have an excellent guard and I'm a big guy who's short. I have an awesome guard because I almost always pull guard. I just don' see the need to learn to take someone down from the knees that way. I can understand learning a low single from the knees or a double from the knees, you can and do end up their a lot (turle from a failed takedown) but this is just trash.

[MrCroMega]

@RightWingCon81 Yeah I can see what you mean but it's nice to have options and variety when rolling.

[DrShak2009]

@DrShak2009 I agree that it is probably unlikely. Not that its relevant, but I have competed before. I don't know how many times you have, but I imagine all the times you have doesn't compensate for all the possible situations that could arrise in a competitive match. In any case, it actually covers techniques for while standing, if you watched the whole video. Also, this is not his only video, so i fail to understand your complaint.

[dreamcastII]

thanks for the effort in making this video

[DrSandoKhan]

Simply Great!

[ShinkaTV]

Thanks Stephan - I'm going to adapt that just a bit, and do it off of a failed throw (from the student), or an inept takedown (from the student's opponent) - I like to "teach for concrete" so these would be more "oops" techniques, but still very great. I love your ideas Stephan, thanks again!

[sjonesbjj87]

is bjj better than boxing?

[poopalover]

@sjonesbjj87 yes

[BootyBot]

@sjonesbjj87 every martial art has its merits. theres no "better" martial art. knowing some ground game is pretty important though if you compete in mma or get into a fight.

[DriftingJohnny]

I 100% agree with pulling sweeps.

[aswtx75]

i pull the butterfly sweep from the knees 75% of the time. it works really well on big new guys cuz they come charging in giving you the added element of momentum for the sweep. plus they have no idea how to deal with the butterfly guard and if they do then you know this is a guy with experience. my favorite opening move.

[Khomradeigor]

Anyone knows what the scissor sweep is called in Judo?

[4c00h]

Just do it in randori when they ask what its called refer them to bjj ;)

[brottarnacke]

Sweeps from the guard aren't official techniques in Judo, therefore they have no formal names. Official ground techniques in Judo are pin holds, joint locks and chokes. When I practised Judo we did learn guard sweeps of course, but I don't remember calling them by special names. Same goes for turnover techniques (techniques for forcing a turtling opponent onto his back). Pretty different from say 10th planet jiu jitsu, where every little move needs a cool name :-D. Judo is old school like that.

[ph33ric]

watch eddie bravo on the evolution of bjj and the Ego.

[khopskins]

oh yeah eddie bravo he knows everything these days huh only

[ph33ric]

he understands that battling from your knees for the top position in training is a waste of time. training takedowns, good, training guard pass/prevention, good. wreasting from your knees for some crazy knee takedown that will never come up in r/l or in comp. WASTE OF TIME.

[khopskins]

and you needed someone to tell you that? thats what this video is about too actually it does a better job because it tells you some alternatives and btw sometimes you do end up on your knees with both guys still looking for top position. nothing against you i just dont like the cult following bravo is accumulating on youtube he has some good stuff but hes hardly what people make him out to be

[mikemedal]

who are u a blackbelt under??

[krupple]

Innocuous. Thanks!

[Ippondo]

He has some very good training dvd's!!

[99smite]

Thanks Stephan!! Great information, great newsletters and great videos...

What would be the best way to get in contact with you when having questions on topics on your newsletter? Just hit the reply button and hack in my question??

With best regards from Germany

[vonmises6]

i pulled the scissor sweep in class tonight! hi five kesting

[kingtwenty20]

@vonmises6 dont focus on that too much as its not a legal move in most comps, but i love them too, but dont put too much effort into them:)

[poisonphish666]

@vonmises6 scissor sweep is lame! learn a real sweep

[adam6433]

@poisonphish666 dont be a dick man. congrates to vonmises6

[BootyBot]

@poisonphish666 theres no point in using fancy ass sweeps if you can execute a basic one with extreme efficiency. Renzo Gracie always brought that up.

[Sheggzz]

@vonmises6 any advanced guys will just just over the left leg and pass the guard

[SifuEli]

Excellent information. Your details and ideas are top notch. I always enjoy watching your channel.

[dildq]

i cant say enoguh good things about his material, really helpful

[karelin275]

but wrestlers also train top, bottom and neutral positions separately as well depending on their objectives.

[fightfromthetop]

thanks for all the material stephan.

[hillerm]

In my opinion, starting sparring matches from the knees is the only part of BJJ training that doesn't make sense. Unless you are limited in space, you should always start standing.

Just like you can't learn to swim on dry land, you can't develop a well rounded game with takedowns by starting on your knees.

[jiujitsuphd]

the purpose is to avoid injury... alot of injuries happen from standing

[Ilikepeaches1]

lots of jiu jitsu guys say that, but its not as bad as they think. Wrestlers never start from there knees unless they are doing situational training.

[jiujitsuphd]

wrestlers usually dont train with different sizes of opponent, and their goal is not to submit someone but to make sure their back sits flat on the mat....bjj guys dont have this mentality and I would take the takedown points and work from any position... modifying a single or double leg takedown, and even some judo throws to accommodate this changes the movements and the landings, altering the physical nature of the takedown and the possibility of injury

[Ilikepeaches1]

i think the point is that starting with both people standing up is more of a realistic situation, both for fighting and sport jiu jitsu since you begin standing. Many jiu jitsu guys have poor takedowns, starting from there feet will help this. Getting injured from takedowns is quite rare. I dont see it as intriscally more dangerous then submissions.

[judojok]

thats why i do both judo and jiujitsu. =p

[buffbode]

@jiujitsuphd work on falling, go do some judo. Injuries happen from standing when you don't work on standing and are not used to taking throws but instead focus only on takedowns, jumping guard and falling on your back.

[Ilikepeaches1]

youre right hillerm, it makes no sense.

[karelin275]

Another point is that you can waste alot of training time working for takedowns. Positional training is important ie..working from standing, sidemount, halfguard..etc. But I also agree takedowns must be incorporated in a well rounded game with sparring starting from standing as well as the other positions.

[shobukarafuda95]

we start from the knees to emphasize ground game cause thats where we would be most of the time. well, for most people actually.

for the record, this is my younger brother's acc, just saying haha

[Dudongo86]

Exactly and most of the academies have limited space so if people start from the knees is safer and everybody can train. PD: I fell over a little kid once doing Tachiwaza in Judo because we were too many, he never came back.

[TextAndViolence]

nice video! i really needed something like this. for the tripod sweep your foot should be behind his ankle, not his knee. i got this detail from a four-stipe black belt from brazil. i think it's because it's easier for opponent to control your knee and step out of.

[sce05]

Great technique. I used it today and worked on three different guys.

[brujeria18]

nice teaching and technique thanks for posting.

[hugeo8]

those sweeps r stupid... keep it simple, the more complicated, the more time it takes to do, and the less attention you r payin to the opponent.

[Indoballer]

what's so complicated about that sweep?

[FuckDownedKids]

The Scissor Sweep is honestly the simplest sweep I can think of...

[IscariotsAngel]

scissor sweep, the butterfly sweep and the push sweep (those are the names I've heard them called) are some of the most basic sweeps in BJJ.

But this is missing the point anyway. What's being taught here is more of a principle- when pulling guard just go straight into a sweep and use the momentum of the pull to help you. You can apply that principle to whatever sweep you like even if these don't suit your fancy.

[hillerm]

ROFL hugeo8!!! You don't know anything about BJJ do you? Those are really basic sweeps.

[BadasspussykillB]

Great vid Stephan, thanks a lot. Also nice to see that Justin got his blue belt. C U guys soon i hope

Bertel

[Fabyfakid]

I started training recently, and this really helps out. Thanks!

[captklim]

thanks for the emails and videos. Great for progressing our BJJ game.

[gazn92]

Nice video mate. Thanks for demonstrating in gi and no-gi :)