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  • What would happen if you drove it completely in high range?

  • Daily driver?

  • How many I lost count

  • Just to keep it simple for those about to pick up their deuce, you can drive it just fine without ever shifting the low/high lever and the gear pattern is on a plaque affixed to the dash and it's easy to understand. The guy in the video is familiar with his truck and taking advantage of the low/high shift lever but it isn't nessecary to use it. I never do unless I'm offroading and need a lower gear range. It's easy to drive, just watch your shift pattern plaque.

  • Why no rpm shifting?

  • so if correct its low 1 - 5 then you split it shift back down to 4 then back up to 5??

  • @m35a2lover correct

  • @bigguy6100 now i'm confused?? is this what your saying? Low1-L2-L3-L4-L5....(shift transfer case to hi).... H4-H5?

  • Bought my self a 1967 m35a2 its a manual white muiltifuel.. wanted to know for braking is it the clutch and brake or just one or the other havnt drove it yet going to pick it up soon wanted to know before i attempted a few hour drive with it...i know most other stuff just could not find clearification on the brakeing

  • @numbnutsyo It drives like any other manual transmission. There is nothing special about it.

  • Do you clutch with every shift or no?

  • i like this video alot, i would to get one of these trucks when i get older, use it as the minivan! or not... lol

  • when you go into high on the transfer case it reverse the H shift pattern?

  • Any of these things come with an engine brake?

  • Reminds me of the movie duel

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  • the poster's truck is an A2, probably tops about 56mph. The A1's topped about 53, I have an A3 that hits 59, and the doggy reo gassers were lucky to hit 50, all empty on the level. Of course tire size and governor settings can change this. As for 5-Tons, they seem to run just the opposite. I have hit 63mph with 5T gassers, 58 with A1's, 56 with A2's, and barely 53 with the cummins M809-series, again, all empty on the flat. I'm sure you will run into exceptions sometimes.

  • lemme get this straight you shift to 5th then pull the 2nd speed on the transfer case then drop it to 4th then back up to 5th? or did you pull the lever to the low gear? please help me figure this out im planning on getting one and will have to drive it 450 miles back home.

  • @loneranger2005 Yep. When you pull the transfer case lever up, youre going from low range to high, then you put the transmission back in 4th and then up to 5th

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  • Yep provides 7 close-step ranges instead of the normal 5. Very handy with loads or on hills. Whenever my 6x6 trucks work upon or haul between jobsites under 40mph, my drivers are told to keep them in low range. Better for the truck, clutch, and driver, also avoids the 1st-to-2nd knuckle-banger. Over the road my drivers are allowed to use the modified split shift as displayed when hauling heavy equipment, fuel, or other heavy loads. Ours always carry much more than they are rated.

  • @loneranger2005 for your first time driving it, you will just leave the transfer case in high and drive it normal. it is not necessary to use low transfer during normal operation... have fun driving it :)

  • @radhi1203 yup I agree with you here, the split-shift trick is NOT for beginners. And surely it is not necessary for normal operation. Beginners have their hands full, they are encouraged to get to know their trucks first and get comfortably good with them. Beginners shouldn't attempt this trick unless they have prior experience with old non-synchro trucks, old duplex's, or triplex's, or at least have great understanding and an ear for how it all works. Else they will certainly BREAK something

  • @loneranger2005 in my trucks the transfer lever seems to move easier when I pop the main case into neutral before pulling transfer case into high range. That's the only thing I do different than shown here, but both ways work. The main thing to remember is to never force the transfer case into any range, the synchro pack can break. Once that breaks, better to buy another transfer case because the splines and shafts become misaligned and clash. Bought a M51 that was pre-busted. Not pretty inside

  • It kind of reminds me of Duel. It makes me want a Deuce even more! Nice video!

  • @bigguy6100 how many speeds does it have? This kinda reminds me of my dad's dodge m37 but bigger.

  • is it normal for the sound of a white 464 to sooth me?

  • How hard is the clutch to push down on these things?

  • @smartepants777 Like pushing in the clutch on anything else

  • @smartepants777 Like pushing in the clutch on anything else

  • nice sound to it

  • although im not sure ive never seen one of these up close before.

  • i see its a twin stick like a brownie kind of. my dad had an old kenworth with a similar set up for low and high range gears

  • @TheRmt1000 yup it's treated like a brownie, except only 4th and 5th is used when in hi range in order to make all the gears perfectly sequencial. The trick is the same on deuces, 5-tons, and 10-tons. 10-ton's were almost impossible to upshift while in hi range starting a heavy load. By the time engine rpm slowed down enuf to catch 2nd, the load (and stiff truck), had you just about stopped again. Not good on the tranny, clutch, & knuckles. Cat D7 and M48A3 tank loads did not allow 2nd/Hi starts

  • does it go faster with a high low transfer box, or same speed?

  • @spiker84 i dont know if you ever got your answer but I will help anyway, the M35A2 will not go any faster shifting like this. When he started out it was in low transfer for no reason. To me having put many miles on these trucks, it looks as it he was just showing off. The only neccessity for driving like this is a steep hill or pulling something really heavy. Hope this helped...

  • this technique usually used under load steep terrain. Not many know this trick nor understand it nor are good at it. What's not seen here is downshift version of this half-split sequence, which is a little touchy under load, but VERY effective climbing hills. The driver here is not showing off, he's trying to show you people how it's done. With practice, a loaded deuce, 5-ton, or 10-ton will always pull ahead faster this way. Try skipping a couple gears on your bike uphill and see what happens.

  • @absoluteauthority08 Yes I know how these trucks work, and how to make them work well for you... I have put many miles on M35A2's and A3C version... The guy making the video was shifting this way cause he likes banging gears... He said so, so you are wrong, have a nice day

  • radhi1203 I was certified US Army & ARNG instructor-road tester on trucks 2.5T-10T, Com Engr & Armor, 9yrs 1970's-80's. Since I left to start construction company, we still have M35A2's carrying compressors & gens, a M49A2C fuel, some M51 dumps, a M109A3 machine shop, AND M818 tractors for our expandable parts semitrailer and lowboys for excavators, dozers, & cranes. 33 years logged in military trucks. I'm not here to dispute your opinion but to state fact found in manuals and on truck dashes.

  • ... I forgot to mention our leased M108 wrecker, an underpowered POS that never sees Hi range except in reverse. I'm supposed to be retired. I thought I was sick of army trucks after 9yrs driving, maintaining them, and training people. But I quickly wound up owning several of the buggers. The price had always been right and every day I see the advantages I have over other companies just because we have 6x6 trucks mixed in with a commercial fleet. Can get onto sites with little if any road prep

  • the poster of this video did not say he liked banging gears. Get your facts straight, you're acting like a liberal. GKDSoldier made the "banging gears" comment. The poster and I have both stated and/or implied this shift method gives best performance with heavy loads or hilly terrain. Nowhere does it say method is necessary for normal "unloaded" operation. Of course it's not necessary. All we're saying is, this is how it's done... for those who wish to learn, and not for the gear-challenged.

  • these trucks are the hot rods of the army s fleet of trucks may not be fast but fun as hell bangin gears

  • Do these have over-heating issues?

  • do you need a special license to drive a m35a2?

  • @bigguy6100 thank's for the video. Been driving my Deuce for four years and never shifted the transfer case while underway. Looks like the way to go if you are hauling a heavy load up to highway speeds. Going to get diesel tomorrow so I will give it a try.

  • Ah, brings backs memories. Spent 26 years in the Army. Retired 1998.

  • @jvolstad HOOAH

  • Just to clear this up for me.. you're using the low range in the transfer case for gears 2-5, and then using 4 and 5 again but in high range? I assume this gives you better gearing for getting up to highway speed, right?

  • @unowhtidc4554 you are correct in your assumption and observation. With loads and/or on hills, this method makes full use of all the available sequential ranges, except redundant 1st gear.

  • @bigguy6100 Other than 4th, is that a regular H-pattern shift? I am curious about the shift pattern, since I'm considering purchasing one of these trucks. Great video by the way. Keep em coming for us Deuce fans!

  • @theduke502 it is other than 4th and 5th being backward. its an l-l-l pattern mostly. top left is reverse, pulled down to low (not usually used) up to top middle for 2nd, down to 3rd, over to bottom right for 4th and up to 5th

  • @bigguy6100 Very interesting! Thank you sir. Take care!

  • @theduke502 its different lol like this:

    R 2 5

    1  3 4

  • @CopeCowboy0267 Ah, I think I understand a little bit better. Thanks for the info :)

  • the truck wasn't meant to be shifted that way. he has it put in all wheel drive when that lever by his leg is down. it uses a lower range. he's using 2nd thru 5th in the lower range and then bringing the all wheel drive lever back up to the normal higher range. then shifting from 4th to 5th. he's only using 4th and 5th of the normal shifting.

  • @luckyran3 Actually, you dont know what youre talking about. All wheel drive is selected by a toggle in the instrument panel, not by the lever on the floor. The lever is for the low high transfer box. It has nothing to do with the 4 wheel drive system.

  • @luckyran3 Low range doesn't put these in AWD. In older trks, the front axle engages only when transfer case sprag detects slippage. It works in Hi & Lo ranges. Newer 2-1/2s have Air-shift front axle, Hi & Lo. AND the trk is geared to be shifted that way. LOOK at the DATA PLATE on dash that gives speed-to-gear ratios. Bigguy is using this vietnam-era trick we US Army MTOC-diploma drivers used under load. The sequence seen here is the best use of gears with heavy load. Same sequence on 5-10tons

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  • It's so nice to see someone on here who knows the old-school shift trick. This technique avoids the big 3rd-4th Hi-range jump, and will accelerate truck beyond those not doing so. I've passed other loaded 6x6's on steep hills by half-splitting the 4th-5th Hi/Lo ranges, while the other trucks went to a crawl on hills cuz they jumped down into 3rd Hi, not understanding the gear/speed ranges. This video and comments expose the real military-schooled drivers from the OJT's & wannabe's. 64C20-88M30

  • @luckyran3 Wow, your a complete moron....... You have never been in a deuce have you....

  • 0 to 55 in one minute =)

  • @JWallsID6999 0-55 in infinity with a reo or gmc :)

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  • do you have to double clutch it?

  • @JackD314 No, its synchronized

  • @JackD314 as bigguy said, plus the transfer case is also synchronized. Double-clutching obviously can make downshifts and also transfer shifts go easier and will cause less wear on the synchros, but it's not necessary

  • Since its a multifuel engine can it run on anything? 87 octane? 100LL? Diesel?

  • its designed to normally run on diesel which is what i run, but yes it will run on 87, they placard against 100LL, but kerosene, regular gas, used motor oil, cooking oil etc is all fine.

  • are you towing? Or just no power?

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  • Who insured you? What type of vehicle did you tell them it was?

  • My normal insurance company (Farm Bureau) insured it. I told them what it was and how much it weighed. They didnt know what I was talking about so they just called it a flatbed truck. They had to create a new policy due to its weight, but its around $100 every 6 months to insure.

  • does this have a cummins 12 valve?

  • White LDT-465 Multifuel

  • multifuel or cummins?

  • so the truck has 7 gears? or hows the gear system cuz u passerd from second to fourth right?

  • i rember plowin snow in these when i was a teenager...the shift pattern used to confuse me though... it wasnt normal

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  • @gasjocker19 confusing? Almost every 5-speed overdrive tranny in the nation has 5th-OD shifted forward and then there are trucks having 5th-Direct trannies, where 5th is pulled to the rear. I served during a transitional era when both gas and diesel trucks, tanks, and APC's were commonly used together. Drivers had to know the differences. Common mishaps were fuels getting mixed up and the different 5th gear locations. You can see some really weird shift patterns at an antique truck show

  • very nice. ive always wonderd how it was with these. i dont even want to imagine the double clutching ones . and why dont you have a higher lever for the hi/low?

  • The high low is to the transfer case, its like in a Jeep so its a little lever that comes through the floor

  • do you double clutch your? the ones i ran you had to

  • nah i dont double clutch. this truck is synchroed

  • What was that thing you pulled up at :24?

  • That is the hi/low shifter for the transfer case. I started off in low range and pulled it up for high

  • Oh okay, Thanks for the fact!

  • Two more questions, do you have to push the clutch in while you transfer it? And where's the parking brake?

  • Yes, you do. I clutch for every gear and the transfer case. The parking brake is on the floor on the left side of the seat, between the seat frame and the door. Its just a lever you pull up, since its not a true air system, just air assist hydraulic (gets it around DOT air brake rules)

  • Oh okay, thanks. I thought the high/low lever was for the parking brake first time I looked in one.

  • @bigguy6100 Why?

    I have driven only one Deuce owned by a friend and it drove fine in high. So what is the advantage of shifting from low to high if you're unloaded or not pulling a trailer?

  • Because I can

  • Hahaha! Okay...just asking.

  • @nashi55 it has no real advantage when you're empty except on the most steepest of hills. I think bigguy6100 intended this to be a training or awareness video. There are some people on YT that use their trucks for work hauling pretty big stuff. If they haven't already looked at the speed-to-gear ratio plate on the dash and come up with this gear-shifting sequence on their own, then they can see it right here on YT and learn something that will be useful to their particular situation

  • @absoluteauthority08 Okay - I'm sure these multi fuels have a narrow powerband, so I can see how it would be useful to maximize the power/torque it produces. Plus it would be fun.

  • Good video....................

  • that thing sounds great. better than our international dt466 trucks.

  • is that a cummins sweet truck

  • Thanks, actually its a White

  • Do u have to have CDL's

  • Nope, no CDL, its just under the weight limit.

  • I'm curious, where's the starter on that thing?

  • The starter button, or the actual starter itself in the engine compartment?

  • How do you start the engine?

  • Ive got a kill switch mounted on the truck that uses a key (this wasnt original). You turn the accessory switch to on, then press the start button, the red button ad the bottom of the instrument panel, by the steering column

  • Thanks.

  • thats not a cummins under the hood is it? i know it sounds like one but i think i remeber hearing somewhere it was a waukesha or hercules diesel or something along those lines.

  • Its a White LTD-465. Some had Hercules, Continental or Whites.

  • i didnt think it was a cummins.

  • same engine design, different vendors

  • awesome! thanks for sharing this

  • What did u pull on the floor?

  • Transfer case shifter. It was in low, and once I shifted through the gears in low range, I pulled it up to high range.

  • I always wondered if semis had highs and lows since they have more gears than pickups.

  • Semi's have different ranges, though I dont think its through a transfer case, though i may be mistaken. This high and low is the transfer case that drives the front axle when its locked in 10 wheel drive. It has high and low, the same as most transfer cases for a jeep or pickup.

  • actually a semi does have high and low gears its all controlled by a switch on the shifter arm which is connected to the transmission 10 speeds has 5 low and 5 high and so forth and so on as i learned in the truck driving school i went to trust me its fun shiting gears in a semi but its not like a regular manual transmission its built tougher than the regular truck ones

  • Thanks Love the sound of those old dueces.

  • I was wondering about that. when i first started watching the video, I though, " man, that thing is really pulling hard through those gears if he is already in 5th, oh there goes the transfer case lever." hahaha

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