Recently we have seen this wind turbine and it is silent, finds the wind, and turns in light breezes. A truly ingenious design. We eagerly look forward to buying one - as soon as they are available. It strikes us as being the ideal model for home energy production.
@Jefferdaughter Thank you for the kind words and sentiments, truly greatly appreciated, it's nice to see that the product speaks for itself and that some folk see its value at first glance. Again thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.
Hi kylegordon, The nature of the SpiralAirfoil is slower then traditional tri blades 60/40 but the power curve is at the very least 5:l in favour of the SpiralAirfoil. We've acheived a start up speed of one mile per hour. Contigent upon just what genny we select will determine just how to slow the bird down in overwindage situations, I tend to believe if the genny is close to frying out a relay will open for five minutes and then reset til the windage dies down.
YEP and I'll bet it isn't just them big tall blades sticking up and whoppping all the time. I LOVE it. Think of this in a water stream say In the river with the current flowing through it.
Only peoblem there is the rivers up this way N.H. freeze.
@brokenbrush@brokenbrush The Bird is silent and cause of the tight weave of the blades from the front the turbine appears solid to the winged creatures, The SpiralHydrofoil is next on the list of developement. Every situation calls for a particular set up even in an ice situation. While I agree there are some pretty neat thinkers here in N.H. there are many more throughout the world, but I do understand your sentiments. We've got the Bird and the world does not see it yet, all in time.
i think i see a flaw when the thing turns around and doesn't go back...you need to put a flat board at the end so it stays pointed towards the find direction
Hi chicnpoper, The Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine turns to meet the strongest winds every time, what your seeing is small gust and then dead time, believe me she is a fine and responsive bird.
Hi jplafortune, "Why do you write " power for the common people." Because I wish to help folk with a cost effective home power source. "Patent Pending?" So we have control of events and the evolutions of the design. I do not need billions, we need a safe healthy planet, where the childrens children can continue to play, both two leggeds and the four leggeds What good is all the money if the earth is ruined. Pure greed has staved the hell outa the creation, Koyaanisqatsi is the word for today.
Hi dus777, Well, I gotta say you've got the altitude/attitude of spirit going for yah. Things are definately afoot and change is finally coming on shortly. Several potential deals are in the works, we will see who steps up to the plate and hits a home run. We will not accept just any offer but try hard to pick the right team that has the very best interest of the Earth and Humanity at heart, I do not want this to be just about the money, any one who is kewl, knows that's not where it's at.
Hi theartsychik, Thank you for the kind words, I've checked your site out and am very impressed with your gift and artistic eye. Your works are other worldly and mystical, etheral sentient beings of pure enegy light plasma, Wow! Your words of being Beautiful and functional... the best of both worlds, will be on a sign somewhere, some day. Thank you for the Gift of thought, you go Gal! Spiralairfoil
The hubby and I have been talking about using wind energy to take the place of at least part of the electric comapny. However, I don't want something on a tower, that has to be way over the height of the trees. This looks like it would be perfect for the top of the house. Is there any way I can get in on the trials?
Hi BogieBlog, The best place for enrgy production is up high, infact, the higher the better. We do intend to have house mounted setups but that would be a house on a hill. If you want to send a private message with your email and phone number that would be a good start, thak you for the consideration. spiralairfoil
Wow this is awesome! literally a breakthrough in the coolest turbines ever. looks like a pretty space efficient design and is aesthetically appealing. did you come up with this yourself? im an aspiring Renewable Energy Engineer, but that title is far off from reality. I'm amazed. how does the top part swivel?
Hi Kazooka1, Most humbly yes, although others helped me perfect it. Still a work in progress.Plastic disc were used to keep the price down. we are attempting to keep the price with in the range of common folk who want to decentralize thier power needs. I was amazed that no one in the wind discipline had come up with this approach before. I wish you well in your attemps to become an engineer, stay with it, the world needs good things to happen, step in the right direction, follow your heart.
More power then traditional tri blades of the same diameter, until independant testing is done I cannot claim that as fact, however in my heart I can clearly see the tremedous difference between the two types.
Home Energy's completely silent Energy Ball V100 (43 in diameter, 0.5 kW capacity, $3690) and V200 (78 in diameter, 2.5 kW capacity, $6900) look a bit similar. They say the 2.5 kW one can power half of an average home.
Hi VCat2006, The Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine is also silent, I'm aware of the energy ball but I believe the Spiralairfoil design is more effective at extracting power from the wind. The price for the Energy Ball seems high to me, we hope to produce a stronger bird and come in with a lower price tag to boot. Thank you
"Gotta give Dan credit, highly swept spiraling turbines are hot & formal fluidics has overlooked them. It was quite unexpected that even a crude helical screw beats betz, even exceeding the prevailing doomed pardigm of what "100%" turbine efficiency is. Here's why (i think)- " A quote from a friend.
Hi theartsychick, Thank you for the kind word, I believe just as you do in the Spiralairfoil. I don't understand why all the gals freely express just how beautiful the Spiralairfoil is and the guys stand there with thier mouth open and yet say nothing, the Gals call it art, sculptor and beautiful. it's a funny phenomena. I think you've said it best!
Hi helpmakethingsbetter, You've gotta interesting long name there! We intend to have many different arrangements, your suggestion has been contiplated as we were first comming up with the concept. Funding is the thing, when that happens look forward to some unique features comming forward, thanks for your input and have a great day!
Hi D, I made a 20" WITH TAPE TODAY, it spins well with a fan, but it wouldn't even move outside-no wind at all today- but with the fan there was no real torque. I broke up that magnet from the lawn mower motor and fixed pieces of it around the rim, then held a coil from a motorcycle mag up to it-got .08 volts max spinning by hand! I should put it on my roof and see what happens .- talk to you soon.
Hi HuckleberrySlim, It's a" world in Motion" to quote Jackson Browne. Humanity is at the precipice, the illusion of the traditionals ways of seeing rightly should be challenged and new ways of seeing will come into being. It would be neat to see the World in a hundred years if we don't blow it. As long as there is a chance we should be bold and take it, not just for the humans but for all of Gia. Anything we do that is more cost effective and simpler is moving in the right direction. Thks
u must be a very intuitive person because those are my thoughts exactly! I am very hopeful that this line of thinking is making its way more and more into our everyday reality, thanks to innovations like yours! I am very hopeful. thanks for bringing a better world closer :) thats how its done, one person at a time :)
Hi HuckleberrySlim, I believe that true change will come from the bottom up, when it gets darkest the stars will come out. The top has thier heads up you know what, so the people in geneal have to lead the way, of coarse after all is said and done the so called leaders will wiggle in thier and steal the credit any way they can, it's always been so, but for a brief periods in history the tables will be turned this is when true change comes, I think the youg children are going to lead.
yeah true :) I think maybe the generation of teens and up right now is the last generation to be seekers of truth...the ones after will be "havers". by all likeliness.
Hi HuckleberrySlim, Not sure If I get your meaning, I think that the world herself will finally dictate to humanity just where its at,m and humanity will have to fall in line in order to stay on Gia, other wise humanity is the virus/cancer that kills the host. With in the young is the ability to change easily in a relative way compared to the older folk.
You said it :) thats exactly what I mean. The younger generations are always quicker to adapt to new changes, and if the earth is demanding those changes, the youth will have no problem centering their imaginations around innovation, if thats what they see as the norm when they grow and learn here. Hey, maybe you should demonstrate those things around some schools! :P Must be an empowering atmosphere to grow up in: one that values contributions! :)
Hi HuckleberrySlim, I think the bussiness world has it's head up it's butt and the program called wallstreet is a program designed to destroy planets as it exploits for sheer profit margins, by the time the system realizes what's up it way to late to turn the titantic way of thinking, outa the ashes will come a new world, the program called wallstreetthink will not survive into that new day, my beef is that humanity is taking down so very many species, and profit is the bottom line. Still
Hi HuckleberrySlim, Humanity is but one part of the whole of creation, if we don't pull it together quickly we will become extinct and all life will be minimalized towards simle organism, right now it's a call we still can make as time moves onward that choice to act will be past, as we are finding out now! The human race belongs to the Earth as a part," the Earth abides forever"
you said it. the earth saved a very special place for us as a cog in its machine, where we could do our biddings amongst ourselves and not take too much from her system or sacrifice too much to her system, she found a nice place for us where there could be balance for the totality...but we decided to step outside the natural bonds she set specially aside for us to stay inside....and we have to got back in it, before we start to die off...or get killed off...to save her. easy choice if u ask me.
Hi HuckleberrySlim, The Earth is simply overpopulated, we are taking and carving up the resorces at a fevered pitch, something has to give and a collapse is definate, there will be a die off of life in general, complex life forms including humans will perish, if we do not act in a very sensible way do to greed and averice civilization will collapse as other subsystems of Mother Nature falter and fail, the excelleration of colapse will xpotentially increase, it will take our breath away.
its scary isnt it? i dont think people are grasping the finality of it, and the togetherness of it...and the need for change and innovation. if only there was more of it going on out in the open, then it would be contagious...the example of what we need to do would be set. people arent used to turning to each other for answers, for lack of innovation. thats what really has to change. we really are in this together. its like a test from god: learn how to work together or die off.
Hi HucleberrySlim, Check out Jackson Brownes song "after the Deluge" That one song is very visionary in it's reality. Our only hope is through comminication which the innernet allows for the most part. In North America only Cuba is living with the Balance of one Earth. I'm not say'n they are all the answer but the USA at current rate of consuption is on a pace to consume six Earths, which of coarse is rediculous as we only have One Earth. Sow something has to give, desertification?
Hi Mitch, Thanks for following this thread, it's a good topic of discussion, I applaud HuckleberrySlim for pursueing the thought line out. Alls I know is I want the future generations to know that some of us heard thier voices and tried to respond now while we have time to move and act, later we will not have that time nor the ability to make the proper corrections. Green Gloss makes me sick, so many corps are using the Green Movement for the green money. In time all will be revealed
Hi andymclanza, Both are and will be employed in the final version and it will become more obvious as you'll see the taper of the wings. The design is unique and it the original, she's a real beauty as you say. I love to watch her in flight, thank you for the kind words.
Hi piestrak, What amazes me is that no one ever approached the wind in this way, when I started this whole process of developement I went to the PTO and could not find anything that was this simple concept, so forward we went, there were great days and setbacks, now it's ready and very close to production level, we are looking into grants at this time, as we've aquire the services of a good grant writer whom believes in the validity of the project. Again thank you for the kind words.
Hi WindEnergy, I've seen the Fibonacci Spiral through time but I did not know it was Fibonacci, to answer your question the Patent does involve similar properties but not specific to Fibonacci, a" fluted curve" is in the Patent. Still A Spiralairfoil could be built using his formula. I look forward to developement of many different varations on the theme. I'm very happy to get this all this far with still further to go, but I do see light reflecting off the end of a long tunnel.
Well, it has the feature that it's unique, and that someone is creating a new type of turbine design rather than just shooting others' ideas down, and it's based on a spiral wedge (screw) so it might produce a lot of torque for the surface area, and it's a great idea worth pursuing.
Plus, it's drawing negative comments from jealous competitors - that's always a good sign. WE
Hi WindEnergy, Thank you for being a rightious advocate, I'm trying to keep it all positive and constructive as it's a long uphill battle getting this littlebird off the ground. I cannot wait to get the independant testing done and results published, facts being what they are should quite those who need to shoot others down in order for themselve to feel alright. I first realize the concept from the double helix of the DNA and the quickly multiplied the binary from two to many.
Hi WindEnergy, I think the best things are that simple, nature wrote the rule book and sometimes we hear her, or see her ways. It is elegant, I was hoping for something beautiful and effective when I went on this journey, I've always had a problem with the big birds and thought there's gotta be a better way and I believe the Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine has great potential for the common home owner. I cannot believe no one saw this aproach before. Patent searched and said Yippee!
Hi WindEnergy, Please understand I do not believe that the Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine is a slow bird, in my testing and with out a load she turned 840 rpm in a ten mile per hour wind, coupled to a nonfarro brushless i see no problems, the other thing to note is just how well she tracks into the wind, unlike any other bird i've seen, truly. There will be aqua versions later in the Movie. Thank you.
I build commercial wind energy projects for a living. I see some distinct advantages with your design: some people think the typical three-blade turbine is too ugly for occupied urban space, this is simply beautiful; it appears to combine the best energy-capture features of a VAWT and a HAWT into a single unit; it does not appear to create shadow flicker, a major problem with HAWT's near occupied areas. This is one hell of a design! Be interesting to see a computer model of the airflow.
Hi WindEnergy, Thank you for the inspiration of kind words. I would love to provide the computer airflow model for you, I'm sure improvement would be excellerated and the design perfected, alas with out proper funding developement is slow, with funding the whole process can be accellerated. Many love the design, if you know of anyone who might be interested in coming on board with funding it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for keeping me inspired with an ata boy!
We have entered the spiral airfoil into Google's Project 10 to the 100th contest to help great ideas come to life, ideas to help the world and all in it. Google will narrow it down to the best 100 ideas submitted, and on March 17th the public will get to vote for which ideas they think are the best. If we make the cut to the top 100,
Dear sjh 132, data will be supplied when funds arrive. 98 percent of the winds is from 1 to 10 mph yet few wind turbines take advantage of this strike zone, most start up around 7 mph, so you tell me there is no advantage, hmmm! By 8 mph she cranks 12 volts dc, I care.
Power of the wind is related to the windspeed cubed! I'm not sure of the size of your turbine but looks like about 4ft dia.
Assume you are the perfect turbine:
8MPH = 16 watts.
1.6 MPH = 0.13 watts.
Realistically it's probably half that. I guess the low power is okay if you want to trickle charge a battery. Is that your intended market or do you plan to make these 100x bigger?
12V means nothing about power. How many amps or watts at that speed?
Dear Sjh7132, That's the big rub isn't it, I've taken the Spiralairfoil wind turbine as far as I can, I've been promised funding yet nothing has come through yet, when it does come through, then independant testing will be done and the results published. All sizes are being contemplated including aqua.
That's a fatuous statement - there is energy in ANY moving fluid. It's a matter of harnessing that energy. I hope you think before posting something that ignorant again.
Hi hearttobefelt, I'm sorry I did not see your posting ealier. The Video your seeing is proof of concept and not the real bird we are to offer up for sail, the problem is in funding to further the project to a completed 6 ft dia. by 10 ft. long version that will be independantly tested. thanks you for the interest.
Do we deserve the benefits of RE's unlimited potential! (averting climate change, post oil death and creating millions of jobs). I hope so... Anyways, good luck and watch out for the eddy currents (that would seem to be caused from the front).
Dear thunderbean, Thank you my Dear Friend, the journey has been a long and interesting ride, we do what we do for the future generations two legged and four legged and more. Imagine a futre where polution and it's sordid cancers and other ailments are relegated to the history books. Thanks to the Obama Folks we are given a chance to right alot of wrongs that need to go bye bye, fist the vision then the reality, the future gennerations will judge what we did and did not do. Salute, my Friend.
Dear Sonyooo3, Well this is a first, I've never heard of the Spiralairfoil described thata way - I trust that's what your talking about and not the old fart in the picture. I will include your description when explaining to others what other people think of the design. Thanks for the look and kind words.
Does this prototype produce any usable current? I'm all for, non-nuke, non-fossil, non-dam energy. I think it's going to have to be people reinventing the wheel to pull loose the cold dead fingers of the military-industrial grip.
Hi sufimjim, Yes the protype produces dc current. It's proven very difficult to break through the conventional tri blade world, but I do very much believe iin the design. The day is coming when the world will take notice of how special this particular design is. I am very much a doubting thomas and my own worse critic, but this design has stood up well and has exceeded my expectations. It's a "world in Motion" and anything is possible.
I like the design, sort of a logarithmic archimedean screw. The sun and wind hold such vast potential, lest we forget the gifts of Nicola Tesla. This idea could replace wind socks where ever they currently exist. Thank You for your reply.
Hi czarsolarhydrowind , Thanks for the comp, I guess everyone is different, but I do think yah gotta please yourself, if your happy with the bird yah got then thats a good thing. The whole key to me is to build a bird that is simply more effiecent, particularly at the low wind speeds 1, 2, 3, 4 mile an hour winds are the strike zone which is most of the time, still yet I want a bird that will function well at the other end of the scale. This bird does it. I wish you well.
Hi Krazytea8, There are numerous designs out there, time will tell just who lands where, verticals designs have flaws that horizontals designs overcome. Patents in place and funding. It's been an incredible trip just getting things this far and there is much more to be done. Keep in mind this is a wholly new type of turbine that the world has never seen before: and the Gals love it! If the Gals love it then the men folk will prolly buy it.
Looks good but there are also a ton of companies make variations on the home wind turbine. Going to have to make sure you get that patent (hopefully you have one now?) and have the capital to compete with people around the world. Search for the Helix Wind Turbine Windgeneratoren on youtube.
By the way, just a thought here, the small fan, doesn't that create turbulence and mess things up for the main fan in the back? Seems like if the main fan got the wind first hand it would be able to do more work.
There is a hotel here with two flags on the roof. THe one that catches the wind always waves. The one away from the wind just drops down. I think your turbine might be in the same situation.
Your not hearing and understanding just what I'm say'n. Work on it in your mind, there are two events happening. The first event causes a buble effect that the greater wind goes around collapsing back into to the secondary blades with a greater velocity, keep in mind that the center's hollw allowing continuous venting, the cone shape alows for the max wind to continuoisly feed from the outside inward and backward. Next!
I do understand what you're saying, perfectly. But I still think undisturbed wind can do more work than wind that has been stirred. UNLESS, if you have done a wind tunnel test and KNOW that what you're saying is actually the case.
so if you added you a solar electric panel to the area with which to provide a little electricity to a slow speed motor which would keep your wind generator constantly rotating in one direction or another you'd have a continuous output ?very nice design
Congrats. Looks like you have been studying Leonardo's notebooks. But there is no reason why it can't be an aesthetic joy and keep your beer cold. I would use colors and patterns & go for it. Please post the wattage data, etc., & issues of snow storms, hail, durability. If not done yet, is must be. And yes, we all do exist from the sun, don't we?
Hi UrsineMuscle, Actually everyone says that about Leonardo but I've never seen his notebook so I don't know what to say. The Colors and Paterns will come in when I find the Right and Proper Backer for this project, Partnerships are like marrage, one must be careful, so I'm picky. Each Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine will outperform the tradition tri blade design of equal diameter every time, hands down. The Wings are made of a nonabsorbent material that is very strong, hail is a none issue. Thanks
Hi Xiaphidian, What your seeing is a small demo model of what future version may look like. The Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine is attached to a small generator. The Diameter is four feet wide by six feet in length and powerful,since this is a prototype of the Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine the material used cost more then the production version will, I would guess I sunk 600. Thank you, Solarwind is the real answere. DB Parker
This is really wonderful. A patent is important for protecting something from predators, who could potentially steal and then hide inventions, preventing human progress. The losers do not realize, however, the power of the collective human mind. Sooner or later, other brilliant inventors find a way to overcome the theft.
Dear purloi, Thanks you for the kind words, they are greatly appreciated. The version you see is one of the earlier attemps at tweaking things around. Future versions will be built to withstand any wind conditions barring a direct hit by a tornado. The Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine is deceptively strong as she has a cabled superstructure, making her much stronger then traditional blades. The energy is extracted in a linear fashion instead of a flat plane fashion the diameters will be smaller.
Hi rap9206, This is a unique and wholly new type of Wind Turbine, not that I was after "New" as much as a more effecient design that would be cost effective to build and operate.I don't know why but all the Gals love it, they call it art and sculptor and think its beautiful, Men just look at it with thier mouths open, a interesting phenomona I've noticed over time. A funny thing.
Hi jasong19711, Thanks for the encourgement, I really believe in solar energy as a strong answer to the energy needs for a sustainable reality.Economics lends towards Solar as the only reasonable long term solution. Keep in mind that Wind is also solar just in another form.
Recently we have seen this wind turbine and it is silent, finds the wind, and turns in light breezes. A truly ingenious design. We eagerly look forward to buying one - as soon as they are available. It strikes us as being the ideal model for home energy production.
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@Jefferdaughter Thank you for the kind words and sentiments, truly greatly appreciated, it's nice to see that the product speaks for itself and that some folk see its value at first glance. Again thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.
spiralairfoil 3 months ago
davinci still alive
NitzMr88 8 months ago
Hi kylegordon, We intend to have an electronic cutout that resets itself. I see no need with breaking as she is built to fly.
spiralairfoil 11 months ago
Hi kylegordon, The nature of the SpiralAirfoil is slower then traditional tri blades 60/40 but the power curve is at the very least 5:l in favour of the SpiralAirfoil. We've acheived a start up speed of one mile per hour. Contigent upon just what genny we select will determine just how to slow the bird down in overwindage situations, I tend to believe if the genny is close to frying out a relay will open for five minutes and then reset til the windage dies down.
spiralairfoil 11 months ago
How do you handle overspeed situations? Can it be feathered and braked?
kylegordon 11 months ago
YEP and I'll bet it isn't just them big tall blades sticking up and whoppping all the time. I LOVE it. Think of this in a water stream say In the river with the current flowing through it.
Only peoblem there is the rivers up this way N.H. freeze.
Leave the free thinkers to be in N.H.
brokenbrush 1 year ago
@brokenbrush @brokenbrush The Bird is silent and cause of the tight weave of the blades from the front the turbine appears solid to the winged creatures, The SpiralHydrofoil is next on the list of developement. Every situation calls for a particular set up even in an ice situation. While I agree there are some pretty neat thinkers here in N.H. there are many more throughout the world, but I do understand your sentiments. We've got the Bird and the world does not see it yet, all in time.
spiralairfoil 1 year ago
i think i see a flaw when the thing turns around and doesn't go back...you need to put a flat board at the end so it stays pointed towards the find direction
chickenpoper 1 year ago 2
Hi chicnpoper, The Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine turns to meet the strongest winds every time, what your seeing is small gust and then dead time, believe me she is a fine and responsive bird.
spiralairfoil 1 year ago
@chickenpoper , Actually, your wrong, it does not need a tail and finds the wind wonderfully.
spiralairfoil 1 year ago
Why do you write " power for the common people. Patent Pending"?
You want to make billions with your idea -OR- you want to give power to the common people?
jplafortune 1 year ago
Hi jplafortune, "Why do you write " power for the common people." Because I wish to help folk with a cost effective home power source. "Patent Pending?" So we have control of events and the evolutions of the design. I do not need billions, we need a safe healthy planet, where the childrens children can continue to play, both two leggeds and the four leggeds What good is all the money if the earth is ruined. Pure greed has staved the hell outa the creation, Koyaanisqatsi is the word for today.
spiralairfoil 1 year ago
I was considering relocating to NH, this has me convinced it's the place to be for the innovator and the entrepreneur.
I'd love to be involved in getting a turbine on every home.
dus777 1 year ago
Hi dus777, Well, I gotta say you've got the altitude/attitude of spirit going for yah. Things are definately afoot and change is finally coming on shortly. Several potential deals are in the works, we will see who steps up to the plate and hits a home run. We will not accept just any offer but try hard to pick the right team that has the very best interest of the Earth and Humanity at heart, I do not want this to be just about the money, any one who is kewl, knows that's not where it's at.
spiralairfoil 1 year ago
Beautiful and functional...the best of both worlds.
theartsychik 1 year ago
Hi theartsychik, Thank you for the kind words, I've checked your site out and am very impressed with your gift and artistic eye. Your works are other worldly and mystical, etheral sentient beings of pure enegy light plasma, Wow! Your words of being Beautiful and functional... the best of both worlds, will be on a sign somewhere, some day. Thank you for the Gift of thought, you go Gal! Spiralairfoil
spiralairfoil 1 year ago
Very cool!
Maiyanna 2 years ago
Hi Maiyanna, Thank you for the compliment, it gives me courage to continue onward.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
The hubby and I have been talking about using wind energy to take the place of at least part of the electric comapny. However, I don't want something on a tower, that has to be way over the height of the trees. This looks like it would be perfect for the top of the house. Is there any way I can get in on the trials?
BogieBlog 2 years ago
Hi BogieBlog, The best place for enrgy production is up high, infact, the higher the better. We do intend to have house mounted setups but that would be a house on a hill. If you want to send a private message with your email and phone number that would be a good start, thak you for the consideration. spiralairfoil
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Wow this is awesome! literally a breakthrough in the coolest turbines ever. looks like a pretty space efficient design and is aesthetically appealing. did you come up with this yourself? im an aspiring Renewable Energy Engineer, but that title is far off from reality. I'm amazed. how does the top part swivel?
kazooka1 2 years ago
Hi Kazooka1, Most humbly yes, although others helped me perfect it. Still a work in progress.Plastic disc were used to keep the price down. we are attempting to keep the price with in the range of common folk who want to decentralize thier power needs. I was amazed that no one in the wind discipline had come up with this approach before. I wish you well in your attemps to become an engineer, stay with it, the world needs good things to happen, step in the right direction, follow your heart.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
How much power does this generate?
VCat2006 2 years ago
Howdy VCat2006,
More power then traditional tri blades of the same diameter, until independant testing is done I cannot claim that as fact, however in my heart I can clearly see the tremedous difference between the two types.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Home Energy's completely silent Energy Ball V100 (43 in diameter, 0.5 kW capacity, $3690) and V200 (78 in diameter, 2.5 kW capacity, $6900) look a bit similar. They say the 2.5 kW one can power half of an average home.
VCat2006 2 years ago
Hi VCat2006, The Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine is also silent, I'm aware of the energy ball but I believe the Spiralairfoil design is more effective at extracting power from the wind. The price for the Energy Ball seems high to me, we hope to produce a stronger bird and come in with a lower price tag to boot. Thank you
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
"Gotta give Dan credit, highly swept spiraling turbines are hot & formal fluidics has overlooked them. It was quite unexpected that even a crude helical screw beats betz, even exceeding the prevailing doomed pardigm of what "100%" turbine efficiency is. Here's why (i think)- " A quote from a friend.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Beautiful!
theartsychik 2 years ago
Hi theartsychick, Thank you for the kind word, I believe just as you do in the Spiralairfoil. I don't understand why all the gals freely express just how beautiful the Spiralairfoil is and the guys stand there with thier mouth open and yet say nothing, the Gals call it art, sculptor and beautiful. it's a funny phenomena. I think you've said it best!
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
fantastic.
keep inventing green alternatives people.
KeVlarTheMighty 2 years ago
I noticed how much light is there is, you should try to put solar panels as the blades. They have some that are bendable now.
helpmakethingsbetter 2 years ago
Hi helpmakethingsbetter, You've gotta interesting long name there! We intend to have many different arrangements, your suggestion has been contiplated as we were first comming up with the concept. Funding is the thing, when that happens look forward to some unique features comming forward, thanks for your input and have a great day!
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Hi D, I made a 20" WITH TAPE TODAY, it spins well with a fan, but it wouldn't even move outside-no wind at all today- but with the fan there was no real torque. I broke up that magnet from the lawn mower motor and fixed pieces of it around the rim, then held a coil from a motorcycle mag up to it-got .08 volts max spinning by hand! I should put it on my roof and see what happens .- talk to you soon.
nothwoods1 2 years ago
Hi D-man, stop by the shop, I have a windmill idea to try-your favorite mechanic
nothwoods1 2 years ago
smart. its about time the myth of the gigantic windmill being the only kind of wind energy cultivator gets laid to rest.
HuckleberrySlim 2 years ago
Hi HuckleberrySlim, It's a" world in Motion" to quote Jackson Browne. Humanity is at the precipice, the illusion of the traditionals ways of seeing rightly should be challenged and new ways of seeing will come into being. It would be neat to see the World in a hundred years if we don't blow it. As long as there is a chance we should be bold and take it, not just for the humans but for all of Gia. Anything we do that is more cost effective and simpler is moving in the right direction. Thks
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
u must be a very intuitive person because those are my thoughts exactly! I am very hopeful that this line of thinking is making its way more and more into our everyday reality, thanks to innovations like yours! I am very hopeful. thanks for bringing a better world closer :) thats how its done, one person at a time :)
HuckleberrySlim 2 years ago
Hi HuckleberrySlim, I believe that true change will come from the bottom up, when it gets darkest the stars will come out. The top has thier heads up you know what, so the people in geneal have to lead the way, of coarse after all is said and done the so called leaders will wiggle in thier and steal the credit any way they can, it's always been so, but for a brief periods in history the tables will be turned this is when true change comes, I think the youg children are going to lead.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
yeah true :) I think maybe the generation of teens and up right now is the last generation to be seekers of truth...the ones after will be "havers". by all likeliness.
HuckleberrySlim 2 years ago
Hi HuckleberrySlim, Not sure If I get your meaning, I think that the world herself will finally dictate to humanity just where its at,m and humanity will have to fall in line in order to stay on Gia, other wise humanity is the virus/cancer that kills the host. With in the young is the ability to change easily in a relative way compared to the older folk.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
You said it :) thats exactly what I mean. The younger generations are always quicker to adapt to new changes, and if the earth is demanding those changes, the youth will have no problem centering their imaginations around innovation, if thats what they see as the norm when they grow and learn here. Hey, maybe you should demonstrate those things around some schools! :P Must be an empowering atmosphere to grow up in: one that values contributions! :)
HuckleberrySlim 2 years ago
Hi HuckleberrySlim, I think the bussiness world has it's head up it's butt and the program called wallstreet is a program designed to destroy planets as it exploits for sheer profit margins, by the time the system realizes what's up it way to late to turn the titantic way of thinking, outa the ashes will come a new world, the program called wallstreetthink will not survive into that new day, my beef is that humanity is taking down so very many species, and profit is the bottom line. Still
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
ps. this earth is our stage, our island. we should honor it!
HuckleberrySlim 2 years ago
Hi HuckleberrySlim, Humanity is but one part of the whole of creation, if we don't pull it together quickly we will become extinct and all life will be minimalized towards simle organism, right now it's a call we still can make as time moves onward that choice to act will be past, as we are finding out now! The human race belongs to the Earth as a part," the Earth abides forever"
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
you said it. the earth saved a very special place for us as a cog in its machine, where we could do our biddings amongst ourselves and not take too much from her system or sacrifice too much to her system, she found a nice place for us where there could be balance for the totality...but we decided to step outside the natural bonds she set specially aside for us to stay inside....and we have to got back in it, before we start to die off...or get killed off...to save her. easy choice if u ask me.
HuckleberrySlim 2 years ago
Hi HuckleberrySlim, The Earth is simply overpopulated, we are taking and carving up the resorces at a fevered pitch, something has to give and a collapse is definate, there will be a die off of life in general, complex life forms including humans will perish, if we do not act in a very sensible way do to greed and averice civilization will collapse as other subsystems of Mother Nature falter and fail, the excelleration of colapse will xpotentially increase, it will take our breath away.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
its scary isnt it? i dont think people are grasping the finality of it, and the togetherness of it...and the need for change and innovation. if only there was more of it going on out in the open, then it would be contagious...the example of what we need to do would be set. people arent used to turning to each other for answers, for lack of innovation. thats what really has to change. we really are in this together. its like a test from god: learn how to work together or die off.
HuckleberrySlim 2 years ago
Hi HucleberrySlim, Check out Jackson Brownes song "after the Deluge" That one song is very visionary in it's reality. Our only hope is through comminication which the innernet allows for the most part. In North America only Cuba is living with the Balance of one Earth. I'm not say'n they are all the answer but the USA at current rate of consuption is on a pace to consume six Earths, which of coarse is rediculous as we only have One Earth. Sow something has to give, desertification?
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
"I believe that true change will come from the bottom up, when it gets darkest the stars will come out." - Spiralairfoil
Well said.
Mitch
Techstuf 2 years ago
Hi Mitch, Thanks for following this thread, it's a good topic of discussion, I applaud HuckleberrySlim for pursueing the thought line out. Alls I know is I want the future generations to know that some of us heard thier voices and tried to respond now while we have time to move and act, later we will not have that time nor the ability to make the proper corrections. Green Gloss makes me sick, so many corps are using the Green Movement for the green money. In time all will be revealed
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Hi!
It is a really uncommon design!
and also a beautiful one ^^
A question ( if you can answer )
Does it use drag,lift, or both ?
Thanks
andymclanza 2 years ago
Hi andymclanza, Both are and will be employed in the final version and it will become more obvious as you'll see the taper of the wings. The design is unique and it the original, she's a real beauty as you say. I love to watch her in flight, thank you for the kind words.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
this is awesome. its like it screws into the wind
piestrak 2 years ago
Hi piestrak, What amazes me is that no one ever approached the wind in this way, when I started this whole process of developement I went to the PTO and could not find anything that was this simple concept, so forward we went, there were great days and setbacks, now it's ready and very close to production level, we are looking into grants at this time, as we've aquire the services of a good grant writer whom believes in the validity of the project. Again thank you for the kind words.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Is this shape based on the mathematical Fibonacci Series so often found in nature?
WindEnergy 2 years ago
Hi WindEnergy, I've seen the Fibonacci Spiral through time but I did not know it was Fibonacci, to answer your question the Patent does involve similar properties but not specific to Fibonacci, a" fluted curve" is in the Patent. Still A Spiralairfoil could be built using his formula. I look forward to developement of many different varations on the theme. I'm very happy to get this all this far with still further to go, but I do see light reflecting off the end of a long tunnel.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Well, it has the feature that it's unique, and that someone is creating a new type of turbine design rather than just shooting others' ideas down, and it's based on a spiral wedge (screw) so it might produce a lot of torque for the surface area, and it's a great idea worth pursuing.
Plus, it's drawing negative comments from jealous competitors - that's always a good sign. WE
WindEnergy 2 years ago
Hi WindEnergy, Thank you for being a rightious advocate, I'm trying to keep it all positive and constructive as it's a long uphill battle getting this littlebird off the ground. I cannot wait to get the independant testing done and results published, facts being what they are should quite those who need to shoot others down in order for themselve to feel alright. I first realize the concept from the double helix of the DNA and the quickly multiplied the binary from two to many.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
The more I look at this, the more simple and elegant it seems. Kind of ticks me off that I didn't think of it.
Of course, I didn't think up the spoon, either, and that's simple and elegant too.
WindEnergy 2 years ago
Hi WindEnergy, I think the best things are that simple, nature wrote the rule book and sometimes we hear her, or see her ways. It is elegant, I was hoping for something beautiful and effective when I went on this journey, I've always had a problem with the big birds and thought there's gotta be a better way and I believe the Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine has great potential for the common home owner. I cannot believe no one saw this aproach before. Patent searched and said Yippee!
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Hi WindEnergy, Please understand I do not believe that the Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine is a slow bird, in my testing and with out a load she turned 840 rpm in a ten mile per hour wind, coupled to a nonfarro brushless i see no problems, the other thing to note is just how well she tracks into the wind, unlike any other bird i've seen, truly. There will be aqua versions later in the Movie. Thank you.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
I build commercial wind energy projects for a living. I see some distinct advantages with your design: some people think the typical three-blade turbine is too ugly for occupied urban space, this is simply beautiful; it appears to combine the best energy-capture features of a VAWT and a HAWT into a single unit; it does not appear to create shadow flicker, a major problem with HAWT's near occupied areas. This is one hell of a design! Be interesting to see a computer model of the airflow.
WE
WindEnergy 2 years ago
Hi WindEnergy, Thank you for the inspiration of kind words. I would love to provide the computer airflow model for you, I'm sure improvement would be excellerated and the design perfected, alas with out proper funding developement is slow, with funding the whole process can be accellerated. Many love the design, if you know of anyone who might be interested in coming on board with funding it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for keeping me inspired with an ata boy!
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
keep up the good work.
jasong19711 2 years ago
Thanks jasong19711, At this point looking into the possibilty of inflatable pole/tower. Have a great day!
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
We have entered the spiral airfoil into Google's Project 10 to the 100th contest to help great ideas come to life, ideas to help the world and all in it. Google will narrow it down to the best 100 ideas submitted, and on March 17th the public will get to vote for which ideas they think are the best. If we make the cut to the top 100,
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Interesting looking, and bird safe.
Can you support your "more power than normal 3 bladed designs" claim with some data?
There is no significant power in a 1.6MPH wind, so who cares if it starts or not?
sjh7132 2 years ago
Dear sjh 132, data will be supplied when funds arrive. 98 percent of the winds is from 1 to 10 mph yet few wind turbines take advantage of this strike zone, most start up around 7 mph, so you tell me there is no advantage, hmmm! By 8 mph she cranks 12 volts dc, I care.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Power of the wind is related to the windspeed cubed! I'm not sure of the size of your turbine but looks like about 4ft dia.
Assume you are the perfect turbine:
8MPH = 16 watts.
1.6 MPH = 0.13 watts.
Realistically it's probably half that. I guess the low power is okay if you want to trickle charge a battery. Is that your intended market or do you plan to make these 100x bigger?
12V means nothing about power. How many amps or watts at that speed?
Don't expect much funding without data.
sjh7132 2 years ago
Dear Sjh7132, That's the big rub isn't it, I've taken the Spiralairfoil wind turbine as far as I can, I've been promised funding yet nothing has come through yet, when it does come through, then independant testing will be done and the results published. All sizes are being contemplated including aqua.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
That's a fatuous statement - there is energy in ANY moving fluid. It's a matter of harnessing that energy. I hope you think before posting something that ignorant again.
WindEnergy 2 years ago
nice . should be higher torque than some other designs
do you have figures on power generated vs wind speed ?
hearttobefelt 2 years ago
Hi hearttobefelt, I'm sorry I did not see your posting ealier. The Video your seeing is proof of concept and not the real bird we are to offer up for sail, the problem is in funding to further the project to a completed 6 ft dia. by 10 ft. long version that will be independantly tested. thanks you for the interest.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Do we deserve the benefits of RE's unlimited potential! (averting climate change, post oil death and creating millions of jobs). I hope so... Anyways, good luck and watch out for the eddy currents (that would seem to be caused from the front).
fireofenergy 2 years ago
Dear fireofenergy, not really sure just what your talking about, once I thought I was quite clever, now I know that just aint so.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
very inpressef start speed 1.6 wow!
DeanC993 2 years ago
is this thig even hooked to a generator? it looks pretty n all spinning in the wind, but...
bmed19 3 years ago
Hi bmed19, If you read earlier post on this youtube site you'd see that question has been asked and answered. Have a great day.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
May God bless you for your efforts to make our world a better place to grow to heaven.
thunderbean 3 years ago
Dear thunderbean, Thank you my Dear Friend, the journey has been a long and interesting ride, we do what we do for the future generations two legged and four legged and more. Imagine a futre where polution and it's sordid cancers and other ailments are relegated to the history books. Thanks to the Obama Folks we are given a chance to right alot of wrongs that need to go bye bye, fist the vision then the reality, the future gennerations will judge what we did and did not do. Salute, my Friend.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
nice and sexy....
Sonyoooo3 3 years ago 4
Dear Sonyooo3, Well this is a first, I've never heard of the Spiralairfoil described thata way - I trust that's what your talking about and not the old fart in the picture. I will include your description when explaining to others what other people think of the design. Thanks for the look and kind words.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
Does this prototype produce any usable current? I'm all for, non-nuke, non-fossil, non-dam energy. I think it's going to have to be people reinventing the wheel to pull loose the cold dead fingers of the military-industrial grip.
sufizmjim 3 years ago
Hi sufimjim, Yes the protype produces dc current. It's proven very difficult to break through the conventional tri blade world, but I do very much believe iin the design. The day is coming when the world will take notice of how special this particular design is. I am very much a doubting thomas and my own worse critic, but this design has stood up well and has exceeded my expectations. It's a "world in Motion" and anything is possible.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
I like the design, sort of a logarithmic archimedean screw. The sun and wind hold such vast potential, lest we forget the gifts of Nicola Tesla. This idea could replace wind socks where ever they currently exist. Thank You for your reply.
sufizmjim 3 years ago
I like it, it's apealing to the eye. maybe my neibors would like mine more if it looked more natural and not so much like an air plane proppeller!
czarsolarhydrowind 2 years ago
Hi czarsolarhydrowind , Thanks for the comp, I guess everyone is different, but I do think yah gotta please yourself, if your happy with the bird yah got then thats a good thing. The whole key to me is to build a bird that is simply more effiecent, particularly at the low wind speeds 1, 2, 3, 4 mile an hour winds are the strike zone which is most of the time, still yet I want a bird that will function well at the other end of the scale. This bird does it. I wish you well.
spiralairfoil 2 years ago
Hi Krazytea8, There are numerous designs out there, time will tell just who lands where, verticals designs have flaws that horizontals designs overcome. Patents in place and funding. It's been an incredible trip just getting things this far and there is much more to be done. Keep in mind this is a wholly new type of turbine that the world has never seen before: and the Gals love it! If the Gals love it then the men folk will prolly buy it.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
Looks good but there are also a ton of companies make variations on the home wind turbine. Going to have to make sure you get that patent (hopefully you have one now?) and have the capital to compete with people around the world. Search for the Helix Wind Turbine Windgeneratoren on youtube.
KrazyTea8 3 years ago
By the way, just a thought here, the small fan, doesn't that create turbulence and mess things up for the main fan in the back? Seems like if the main fan got the wind first hand it would be able to do more work.
There is a hotel here with two flags on the roof. THe one that catches the wind always waves. The one away from the wind just drops down. I think your turbine might be in the same situation.
disndat11 3 years ago
Actually the wind that goes through the first set of blades causes more wind to pillow around and then quickly back into the second set of blades.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
I have to disagree with you on that one. I think wind without turbulence can do more work than wind that has been stirred.
disndat11 3 years ago
Your not hearing and understanding just what I'm say'n. Work on it in your mind, there are two events happening. The first event causes a buble effect that the greater wind goes around collapsing back into to the secondary blades with a greater velocity, keep in mind that the center's hollw allowing continuous venting, the cone shape alows for the max wind to continuoisly feed from the outside inward and backward. Next!
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
I do understand what you're saying, perfectly. But I still think undisturbed wind can do more work than wind that has been stirred. UNLESS, if you have done a wind tunnel test and KNOW that what you're saying is actually the case.
Next! (-:
disndat11 3 years ago
Wind Tunnel testing is done.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
What an absolutely beautiful design! Very inspiring..
Just curious, what is the fan material??
Greetings from Iran
disndat11 3 years ago
Well, thanks for the kind words, seems as if many people want to know the answer to that very question right now; how's Vijay?
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
Aah, you're dodging the question I see. LOL
Don't blame you!
Who's Vijay?
disndat11 3 years ago
Some bearded dude is trying to steal it!
transdrole 3 years ago
It's o k I gave'm permission.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
so if you added you a solar electric panel to the area with which to provide a little electricity to a slow speed motor which would keep your wind generator constantly rotating in one direction or another you'd have a continuous output ?very nice design
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countrygirllol 3 years ago
Congrats. Looks like you have been studying Leonardo's notebooks. But there is no reason why it can't be an aesthetic joy and keep your beer cold. I would use colors and patterns & go for it. Please post the wattage data, etc., & issues of snow storms, hail, durability. If not done yet, is must be. And yes, we all do exist from the sun, don't we?
UrsineMuscle 3 years ago
Hi UrsineMuscle, Actually everyone says that about Leonardo but I've never seen his notebook so I don't know what to say. The Colors and Paterns will come in when I find the Right and Proper Backer for this project, Partnerships are like marrage, one must be careful, so I'm picky. Each Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine will outperform the tradition tri blade design of equal diameter every time, hands down. The Wings are made of a nonabsorbent material that is very strong, hail is a none issue. Thanks
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
I have a few questions on this one.
Is this rigged to a turbine?
And if it is, how much is the output in watts?
How large is the diameter?
And what was the total cost of materials?
Anyways looking really good. I see a great future for both wind an solar power.
Xiaphidian 3 years ago
Hi Xiaphidian, What your seeing is a small demo model of what future version may look like. The Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine is attached to a small generator. The Diameter is four feet wide by six feet in length and powerful,since this is a prototype of the Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine the material used cost more then the production version will, I would guess I sunk 600. Thank you, Solarwind is the real answere. DB Parker
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
This is really wonderful. A patent is important for protecting something from predators, who could potentially steal and then hide inventions, preventing human progress. The losers do not realize, however, the power of the collective human mind. Sooner or later, other brilliant inventors find a way to overcome the theft.
I wish you great success with your ideas.
DanielSaceano 3 years ago
Dear Daniel Saceano, Thank you for the kind comps.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
Beautiful and functional, a kind of art meets science. I love it! What kind of wind gusts is it able to withstand?
purloi 3 years ago
Invester Welcomed
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
Dear purloi, Thanks you for the kind words, they are greatly appreciated. The version you see is one of the earlier attemps at tweaking things around. Future versions will be built to withstand any wind conditions barring a direct hit by a tornado. The Spiralairfoil Wind Turbine is deceptively strong as she has a cabled superstructure, making her much stronger then traditional blades. The energy is extracted in a linear fashion instead of a flat plane fashion the diameters will be smaller.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
Freaking GORGEOUS!
rap9206 3 years ago
Hi rap9206, This is a unique and wholly new type of Wind Turbine, not that I was after "New" as much as a more effecient design that would be cost effective to build and operate.I don't know why but all the Gals love it, they call it art and sculptor and think its beautiful, Men just look at it with thier mouths open, a interesting phenomona I've noticed over time. A funny thing.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
Good luck with it! I hope more & more people realize the benefits of wind/solar energy!
jasong19711 3 years ago
Hi jasong19711, Thanks for the encourgement, I really believe in solar energy as a strong answer to the energy needs for a sustainable reality.Economics lends towards Solar as the only reasonable long term solution. Keep in mind that Wind is also solar just in another form.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
power to the ppl and patent pending dont go together.
Leibensborn 3 years ago
That's some pretty narrow thinking you got going on there, good luck with that.
spiralairfoil 3 years ago
Patent pending
spiralairfoil 3 years ago