I was listening to Calculating Infinity today. I can't believe the jazz influence behind this beast. He hardly uses blasts, which is rare for such a band, but this guy just fucking kills it. I love it.
@bentheiburg He has a book called Polyrhythmic potential that has 5 songs (including Sunshine the werewolf) fully notated in the back of it. I just got it and looking at the notation makes me want to claw my eyes out because it's such a mindfuck to see it on paper XD
this is my favorite drum line he has done, it puts a smile to my face when i hear all those polyrhythms and a frown at the same time because it discharges me from playing drums lol
the precision and feeling (groove) of chris pennie is amazing!! Guys can you go to my drum videos and give me some advice? Im just starting and i dont know how to improve other than practice :(
@mutatingfred24 Jee wiz, mutatingfred is intense as fuck. Damn guys, let's get outta here before he words us even harder.
Really though, Chris and Ben were the only two original members left, and they were having some domestic issues. They weren't on the same page any more, and things were just getting ugly. So Chris left, and got an invitation to play drums for Coheed. Why would anyone pass up that offer? It was basically either mope around at home or join Coheed... Gotta make money somehow.
@mutatingfred24 I'm not against him being in Coheed. At his status, drums are his career, and whatever he does, he does for a good reason. I just like him as a drummer no matter what he does.
@YogritMUN ALright then thats all u had to say in the first place because im with you there i like chris because he is a great drummer as we all can pretty much agree im just tired of people talking shit about him leaving dep its over and done with hes been out for a while so people just need to get over it and listen to the old dep if they love him so much
I think pennie plus coheed will be interesting.... mostly because coheed has never had a drummer of this caliber. He'll crush the songs and the guitar wanking will have to keep up with the drums for a change :P
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why...did...you...leave Dillinger, one of metal's greatest bands, for Coheed and Cambria? They're horrible! If I want cheesy prog rock I'll listen to Rush, thank you very much.
carey and pennie are both insanely good drummers but they have different styles so its kinda hard to compare. I hafta admit i was a carey fan long before i heard of pennie. BOTH ARE OUTSTANDING MUSICIANS WHO KNOW THEIR THEORY!
As a battle of recorded drum performances, Carey would win.
But I like how you compare the two, because they are in my opinion the two greatest drummers ever. Mike Portnoy can eat my balls, I like Pennie and Carey because their whole thing isn't about being flashy like Portnoy.
Ticks and Leeches? Pennie being able to handle that? Probably, but likely without the same precision on the tom groove as Carey.
They both have strengths and...barely any weaknesses as drummers.
Holy crap it's amazing how loose he stays and still has so much power. Watch his left hand. His fulcrum is pretty loose too. You can see by the gap between thumb and pointer. Damn he's good.
@MyPerfectOpiate Mollor technique disposes one to becoming fairly loose when playing. His use of mollor is incredible and a sure exemplar of the technique.
@inimicalODDITY the song he is playing on the drums is straight up jazz style playing. and i have read some interviews saying he started out as a jazz drummer.
mike portnoy isn't shit compared to any gospel chops drummer...there's a whole 'nother world of drummers out there...and vinny colauita, terry bozzio, and chris brien are way beyond him also
the only thing that i like about portnoy is all his odd time stuff, other than that his fills are so fucking lame and easy, it's not hard at all to do the kind of fills he does for the intro to "honor thy father" but everybody thinks THAT is so hard, that fill is one the most basic fills ever it's so simple....and his solo's are nothing i could play them in fact i should just learn one so i can post a video
although Gil is very good, chris is just plain awesome, he has all the aspects of an amazing drummer. i think Gil is more like Chris' apprentice as of yet. chris is so fukin good
dude look at gils version of this song live he does an absolutely amazing job, props of course to chris because he's the original person who made the song, but i think gil does a better job, not tryin to pick a fight or anything lol
i like chirs in dillinger more too he has a more cold technical feel, Gil is a lot more warm and groovy which shows in what he writes for dillinger. Hes a hell of a substitute though, definatly one of my favorite drummers
Actually Gil wrote close to nothing with the band as of yet, although yes, by the looks of his diverse drumming roots (reggae, rock, metal), we can expect groovier, perhaps less busy patterns ^^
Still Chris Pennis, for me, represents 40% of DEP up to now, and I don't think we can really measure Gil's arrival's influence in the band's music as of yet.
Don't worry I know I know...I think the songs where he said he had "more input" are "Dead as history", "Mouth of Ghosts" and "Horse Hunter" if I remember well. Anyways it's 6:30 AM here so I won't feel too bad if I later realize I'm wrong lol
What I meant about the 40% of DEP was that in general terms, Chris Pennie is almost half the band, not that he specifically wrote 40% of the music. He was definitely the main "component" of the band, that's what I meant to say, sorry about that.
Imagine: Chris standing calm, someone scares him "BOO!" behind his back and the guy jerks and goes through a wall... heheh.... he looks so tight, just a hinge before a nervous breakdown (yet his drumming is fluid, melodic and oh so accurate)
Sure - Clear heads are the transparent head, which give a fatter, deeper, low end thud sound, common in rock (tough they are used by many jazz drummers). Coated heads are usually white and give a rounder, thicker sound, more common in jazz (though many rock and metal drummers use them as well).
The toms and bass are usually tunes low, and the snare is pitched up, yes. Die Cast Hoops are thicker and stronger, and allow the drum to be tuned more evenly and with less overtones. Pearl is most popular for these.
thank you for posting this. i hadn't listened to Dillinger in so long and then i just started listening to Calculating Inifinity and Under the Running Board again. at the time, Pennie was one of the top drummers in the hardcore/metal scene and he was just a spring chicken right outta college.
Some of his fills sound like he loses time, then I remember he probably threw like a 9/8 measure in there or something ridiculous. I love how he plays such intricate, complicated stuff, but he maintains a groove. A lot of drummers can't groove, Pennie can. I hope he takes Coheed to a whole new level.
i like this
TheFacelessOne420 5 months ago
absolute machine
UKNOWIT88 5 months ago
the groove at 1:12 is boss
faaarrrh 6 months ago
fuck
Danalds 6 months ago
why are they get him out :(
MaroMeshuggah 7 months ago
does anyone know what sticks he uses here?
BojanglesUdon 7 months ago
@BojanglesUdon he uses vater "virgil's assault" sticks i think
huuurgh 3 months ago
@huuurgh naaah man, hes vater endorsed, and has the Chris Pennie signature "Fight Mannequins" really goood sticks actually, some of my favourites
xXCleggy755Xx 2 months ago
@xXCleggy755Xx yeah he does now eh, he used virgils ones in the past though. be keen to check out his signature sticks! :)
huuurgh 2 months ago
Badassery to the max.
IbanezLover10 8 months ago
I've seen this video over 200 times this year alone.
WhoHearsTheMadnessTV 8 months ago
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Haha, I love 2:45. He's like "just for you black metal-lovers, here's a blast beat
SheikTijl 8 months ago
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SheikTijl 8 months ago
i love how he does this in a polo lol
DrewCdrummer24 9 months ago 3
this is unreal
83dannyphantom 9 months ago
It's awesome seeing HOW this is actually played. Really takes the guess work out.
joperrot 9 months ago
@thepatrick1213 read the title buddy, called sunshine the werewolf :D
dkane411 10 months ago
What song is this????....
thepatrick1213 10 months ago
DESTROYER!
EntwinedbyVengeance 10 months ago 3
I was listening to Calculating Infinity today. I can't believe the jazz influence behind this beast. He hardly uses blasts, which is rare for such a band, but this guy just fucking kills it. I love it.
Ioserbam 10 months ago
@Ioserbam If you love Pennie you would also love Matt Halpern. Pennie told me that Halpern is actually better than he is after a show.
ConsumingFire39 3 months ago
reminds me of a song from perfect dark on the n64
scraggly2 11 months ago
almost perfect technique, thats why it looks effortless for him.
tlonto 1 year ago
Chris Pwnie is more like it. AMIRITE? It's because he pwns...
StonersProductions 1 year ago
@StonersProductions Not when you say it like that.
mjrupps 1 year ago
hooooollllllyyyy shit my favorite drummer of all time
rageagainst89 1 year ago
My guess is that the like button was broken, and the one guy that disliked this video just wanted to push something.
kindofawesome923 1 year ago
He's not as good as Travis Orbin? lmao I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions
arf189 1 year ago
TIGHT AS FAUCK!
skateswitch03 1 year ago
that was fuckin tight as hell
MadMaxRO9 1 year ago
Watching how effortlessly it is for him makes me strive to be a better drummer.
n0vaflar3 1 year ago
He's not as good as Travis Orbin. But he's still amazing. No doubt.
xJradDrumzx 1 year ago
Has anyone transcribed that groove starting at 0:17? kickass!
bentheiburg 1 year ago
@bentheiburg He has a book called Polyrhythmic potential that has 5 songs (including Sunshine the werewolf) fully notated in the back of it. I just got it and looking at the notation makes me want to claw my eyes out because it's such a mindfuck to see it on paper XD
Rolynpwns 1 year ago
I like this guy's style.
keypusher0 1 year ago
Forgot Thomas Pridgen, Forget Tony Royster Jr...
This guy has CHOPS.
iplaywithnoshoes 1 year ago
this is my favorite drum line he has done, it puts a smile to my face when i hear all those polyrhythms and a frown at the same time because it discharges me from playing drums lol
FTFTV1 1 year ago
Listen to Coheed's song Guns of Summer. Might be the best drumming he has ever done.
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the precision and feeling (groove) of chris pennie is amazing!! Guys can you go to my drum videos and give me some advice? Im just starting and i dont know how to improve other than practice :(
DavidChoiDrumz 1 year ago
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HA people still whining about him leaving dillinger. he came to his senses people get the fuck over it u whiny little wannabe metal head pussies
mutatingfred24 1 year ago
@mutatingfred24 Jee wiz, mutatingfred is intense as fuck. Damn guys, let's get outta here before he words us even harder.
Really though, Chris and Ben were the only two original members left, and they were having some domestic issues. They weren't on the same page any more, and things were just getting ugly. So Chris left, and got an invitation to play drums for Coheed. Why would anyone pass up that offer? It was basically either mope around at home or join Coheed... Gotta make money somehow.
YogritMUN 1 year ago
@YogritMUN yes i am princess so run along now you and your dep followers
mutatingfred24 1 year ago
@mutatingfred24 I'm not against him being in Coheed. At his status, drums are his career, and whatever he does, he does for a good reason. I just like him as a drummer no matter what he does.
YogritMUN 1 year ago
@YogritMUN ALright then thats all u had to say in the first place because im with you there i like chris because he is a great drummer as we all can pretty much agree im just tired of people talking shit about him leaving dep its over and done with hes been out for a while so people just need to get over it and listen to the old dep if they love him so much
mutatingfred24 1 year ago
I think pennie plus coheed will be interesting.... mostly because coheed has never had a drummer of this caliber. He'll crush the songs and the guitar wanking will have to keep up with the drums for a change :P
SpitFire301 1 year ago
@SpitFire301
the album's drums are amazing, wait till you hear them
iateyourbaby23 1 year ago
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why...did...you...leave Dillinger, one of metal's greatest bands, for Coheed and Cambria? They're horrible! If I want cheesy prog rock I'll listen to Rush, thank you very much.
tribestros 1 year ago
one thing pennie's drumming has taught me; hitting soft is just as important as accenting.
hugewolf666 2 years ago 25
@hugewolf666 So true dude.
VJelectro 9 months ago
dudes got the touch
RedOnChrome 2 years ago
i love that part at @ 1:12 !
sick drumming
dnm25 2 years ago
i'm soooooo pissed that this fucker left DEP!
cdewd 2 years ago 10
this is fucking sick drumming. i love this part of the song
simon5863 2 years ago
I am obssessed with this video for a couple of years now. Go join a real band Pennie, I miss you!
ElBastardoAlmeida 2 years ago
the ghost noting on the snare and ride here are serious bitches to learn
damn you pennie and your godlike drumming
:D
dkane411 2 years ago
Holy blast, batman @ 2:45
ANONtkakes 2 years ago
carey and pennie are both insanely good drummers but they have different styles so its kinda hard to compare. I hafta admit i was a carey fan long before i heard of pennie. BOTH ARE OUTSTANDING MUSICIANS WHO KNOW THEIR THEORY!
DrMaximumChill 2 years ago
@DrMaximumChill ohhh yes his moeller is ridiculouslly tight
i wonder how he actually managesto write his songs though :P
dkane411 2 years ago
In response to matbell: Psh! Pennie. All the way.
pushherinthesnow 2 years ago
DESTROYER!
Gravemaker90 2 years ago
On the spot, Pennie.
As a battle of recorded drum performances, Carey would win.
But I like how you compare the two, because they are in my opinion the two greatest drummers ever. Mike Portnoy can eat my balls, I like Pennie and Carey because their whole thing isn't about being flashy like Portnoy.
Ticks and Leeches? Pennie being able to handle that? Probably, but likely without the same precision on the tom groove as Carey.
They both have strengths and...barely any weaknesses as drummers.
killershears 2 years ago 4
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Very well said man, i agree completely
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Crustyblendr 2 years ago
his one handed rolls are rediculous
Andross026 2 years ago
Holy crap it's amazing how loose he stays and still has so much power. Watch his left hand. His fulcrum is pretty loose too. You can see by the gap between thumb and pointer. Damn he's good.
MyPerfectOpiate 2 years ago
The key of power IS to stay loose all the time. =)
prep909 2 years ago
@MyPerfectOpiate Mollor technique disposes one to becoming fairly loose when playing. His use of mollor is incredible and a sure exemplar of the technique.
Rholoff 2 years ago
Good lord Chris Pennie is the shit!!
DrMaximumChill 2 years ago
its not fair this guy gets all the tallent
lookwhatidid 2 years ago
god i still cant believe him. amazing
maki718 2 years ago
chris pennie is a legend
rawkenday 2 years ago 4
Gnarkillian
nai400 2 years ago
watching the fallout fly back up...
mattisalive 2 years ago
that blast at 2:45 is ggrrrgnarlified
skateswitch03 2 years ago 2
One of the most technical drummers of all time.
theSyringe 2 years ago 37
@theSyringe you get this from this video? i see this stuff in drum solos by almost every drummer. cookie cutter chops that most drummers learn.
Necronaut 1 year ago
@Necronaut What, doubles?
Colerosity 1 year ago
@Colerosity that to
Necronaut 1 year ago
@theSyringe well hes a jazz drummer what do you expect if your a jazz drummer or bassist you an amazing metal musician
freetweak 1 year ago
@freetweak Jazz drummer? Why do you consider him a "Jazz drummer". He's just a good all-around drummer.
inimicalODDITY 1 year ago
@inimicalODDITY the way he plays.
freetweak 1 year ago
@freetweak care to elaborate? I'm just curious
inimicalODDITY 1 year ago
@inimicalODDITY the song he is playing on the drums is straight up jazz style playing. and i have read some interviews saying he started out as a jazz drummer.
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Bitch is nothing compared to Mike Portnoy
GenericInsect1979 2 years ago
mike portnoy isn't shit compared to any gospel chops drummer...there's a whole 'nother world of drummers out there...and vinny colauita, terry bozzio, and chris brien are way beyond him also
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But as it stands, Mike Portnoy is better than this guy
GenericInsect1979 2 years ago
the only thing that i like about portnoy is all his odd time stuff, other than that his fills are so fucking lame and easy, it's not hard at all to do the kind of fills he does for the intro to "honor thy father" but everybody thinks THAT is so hard, that fill is one the most basic fills ever it's so simple....and his solo's are nothing i could play them in fact i should just learn one so i can post a video
xxxslayerxxx666 2 years ago
you're cool.
nai400 2 years ago
At least Pennie's work sounds good.
mynameisfez1 2 years ago
well go masturbate while watching him play cheezy shitty prog drum beats while standing up behind the kit which is all he does
xpidgeonx 2 years ago 3
I want to crawl inside his brain
tua25544 2 years ago
soon after, i'll want to crawl inside yours.
KnoffMan 2 years ago 4
that fucking blast beat...
oiamthelordo 2 years ago
Talk about chewing gum and walking at the same time...
odnalro712 2 years ago
lmao
BasicCable2113 2 years ago
thats how he keeps count... When I think of it before playing thats what I do
ThinkmanSAm 2 years ago
2:46
douggyfrreshh 2 years ago
Fuck, he is an animal!
jakethefist 2 years ago
he's a GOD
TheMattiEscapePLan 2 years ago
i love how hes chewing gum the whole time haha
scootbp93 2 years ago
blast beat at 2:46 is so intoxicating
Gcontroller 3 years ago 2
fucking brutal I love this shit
Derekid414 3 years ago 2
0:15 i looove that groove!! i incorporate stuff like that into alot of the playing i do lately because of this :D
Xymox321 3 years ago 3
I love this part its so catchy if your a drummer
jumborat12 3 years ago 3
To be honest i didn't think his solo was that impressive but the sunshine the werewolf part was good!
str84ever 3 years ago
this guy has AMAZING chops...
NYGSD 3 years ago 4
although Gil is very good, chris is just plain awesome, he has all the aspects of an amazing drummer. i think Gil is more like Chris' apprentice as of yet. chris is so fukin good
simondv66 3 years ago
dude look at gils version of this song live he does an absolutely amazing job, props of course to chris because he's the original person who made the song, but i think gil does a better job, not tryin to pick a fight or anything lol
Fleeman81 3 years ago
oh no you didn't
LeperAffinity 3 years ago 3
amazing coordination. just amazing.
otc92 3 years ago 3
I don't even play the drums, but I can't stop watching these videos. Chris is amazing.
krappie 3 years ago 29
what hihats are those
Drummerman02 3 years ago 2
lol
It's so wierd to see how low he has his cymbals.
DEATHxLOGIC 3 years ago
thats how i have mine, and i find it MUCH easier than high up cymbals. when they're low, its just a flick of the wrist.
YogritMUN 3 years ago 4
you have a point,
When they put them really high like travis barker it's just weird.
DEATHxLOGIC 3 years ago 4
is it just me, or is he wound up tighter than a spring. In any case, the energy was amazing in that performance!
tehgermangirl 3 years ago
i would rather have chris in DEP then Gil ,but it is what it is.
sircambo 3 years ago
i like chirs in dillinger more too he has a more cold technical feel, Gil is a lot more warm and groovy which shows in what he writes for dillinger. Hes a hell of a substitute though, definatly one of my favorite drummers
WillWatson23 3 years ago 3
Actually Gil wrote close to nothing with the band as of yet, although yes, by the looks of his diverse drumming roots (reggae, rock, metal), we can expect groovier, perhaps less busy patterns ^^
Still Chris Pennis, for me, represents 40% of DEP up to now, and I don't think we can really measure Gil's arrival's influence in the band's music as of yet.
thibaut007 3 years ago
I know most of the record wasn't written by him, but there are songs
He explains it all in his MD interview
WillWatson23 3 years ago
Don't worry I know I know...I think the songs where he said he had "more input" are "Dead as history", "Mouth of Ghosts" and "Horse Hunter" if I remember well. Anyways it's 6:30 AM here so I won't feel too bad if I later realize I'm wrong lol
What I meant about the 40% of DEP was that in general terms, Chris Pennie is almost half the band, not that he specifically wrote 40% of the music. He was definitely the main "component" of the band, that's what I meant to say, sorry about that.
thibaut007 3 years ago
yamaha absolute maple custom all the way
AlasRobotMonkey0931 3 years ago
Mapex Pro-M
inkvita 3 years ago
Imagine: Chris standing calm, someone scares him "BOO!" behind his back and the guy jerks and goes through a wall... heheh.... he looks so tight, just a hinge before a nervous breakdown (yet his drumming is fluid, melodic and oh so accurate)
panayiotis131 3 years ago
Man you make no sense, but Chris Pennie has the the trippiest tech feel to his drumming. I love it
WillWatson23 3 years ago 5
does anyone know the difference from coated heads and clear ones???
animejeelal 3 years ago
Sure - Clear heads are the transparent head, which give a fatter, deeper, low end thud sound, common in rock (tough they are used by many jazz drummers). Coated heads are usually white and give a rounder, thicker sound, more common in jazz (though many rock and metal drummers use them as well).
tambian89 3 years ago
hmm well a lot of alternative bands like saosin, paramore, underoath etc. use coated heads o_o
animejeelal 3 years ago
Yeah. It all depends on the type of sound you want.
tambian89 3 years ago
ok :] and also one other thing they tune their base drums, toms real low and snares real high right? and what do die cast hoops do???
animejeelal 3 years ago
The toms and bass are usually tunes low, and the snare is pitched up, yes. Die Cast Hoops are thicker and stronger, and allow the drum to be tuned more evenly and with less overtones. Pearl is most popular for these.
tambian89 3 years ago
awesomeeeeeeeeeee :D
thank you!
oh and one more thing im sorry:[ do custom drums suck? lol
animejeelal 3 years ago
custom drums are usually better since you can pick your sound out in the finest of details. But, they're much more expensive.
tambian89 3 years ago
thank you:]
i love you
animejeelal 3 years ago
no prob man. Drums are my life.
tambian89 3 years ago
dude it pisses me off so much coheed does not deserve this freakin visionary
or am I the only one here who thinks coheed is junk and doesn't have half the snare room pennie needs
Metaknight666 3 years ago
agreed.
fullmetaljoker 3 years ago
totally
dep is where pennie belongs
animejeelal 3 years ago
so clean...one of my favorite drummers
DrJuice1 3 years ago
transitions.
thats what makes music heavy, and chris is the king of transitioning between different styles, times, and tempos.
Sotall5 3 years ago
I love youtube
borishog 4 years ago 14
thats the fucking business!!
TheMuffinDance1 4 years ago
wow
richnfg 4 years ago
thank you for posting this. i hadn't listened to Dillinger in so long and then i just started listening to Calculating Inifinity and Under the Running Board again. at the time, Pennie was one of the top drummers in the hardcore/metal scene and he was just a spring chicken right outta college.
DrJuice1 4 years ago
Some of his fills sound like he loses time, then I remember he probably threw like a 9/8 measure in there or something ridiculous. I love how he plays such intricate, complicated stuff, but he maintains a groove. A lot of drummers can't groove, Pennie can. I hope he takes Coheed to a whole new level.
pow3rtr1p 4 years ago 3
hes in coheed and cambria now??
Goddrum 4 years ago
haha your a bit late man.
sandoness 4 years ago
this guy is insane
ystein3000 4 years ago
I can't get over his drumming.
The ultimate is tasty.
cocoabononohead 4 years ago
i love the first beat he plays the ghost notes make it sound so amazing <333
jewburgarr 4 years ago
great stuff
KoRnStAr 4 years ago
that's weird, I've been searching chris pennie for awhile and this only came up after searching in google. Great drummer though!
ajrembert 4 years ago
First!!
spazemunky 4 years ago