@anotherzombi If we're to assume your 3 identities notion, the only thing that truly matters is that having such a large and ridiculous gap between your internal and external identities makes you nothing less of an idiot.
You can be whoever you want (in potential), but that doesn't you ever will be without any genuine effort in that direction.
I seriously hope you don't think you're teaching me something or that you have a point. Stay in school so I don't have to clear your misconceptions.
@Zimx02 I'm probably not going to reply after this, mainly due to my final exams aproaching, but I honestly don't think someone is an idiot for having a gap between their internal and external identities. I mean, if a man sees himself as a first and foremost a writer but at the same time is known for drawing comics his external identity projects him as an artist. "you're trying to refute a hyperbole" I know, I was doing this on purpose. And I'm not confusing virtuous for adeptness.
@Zimx02 I know what both words mean, and in terms of changing people by being mean sure, you can change people through multiple manners, take Polpot for example, he murdered 2million people to change the economic nature of his nation, and as a result I'm sure there were a lot of people who stopped going to school or getting an education out of fear. It's a dramatic example, but the point still stands that you can change people through many ways- but that doesn't make it right.
@Zimx02 In conclusion, If you are intelligent as I believe you are, perhaps you should look up to the stars, and maybe will realise as John Keats gravestone was written "Here lies one who's name was writ in water". And maybe, just maybe you will begin to understand how insignificant argueing with people who are (in your eyes) lesser and instead find gratification as many others have- in helping those less fortunate.
@Zimx02 As I am impressed your argument has no basis in reality and as a result holds no validity nor legitimacy, further compramising the legitimacy of your entire coherently formed argument. Without a basis of reality, formed through reality based evidence you suffer a great loss of credibility- regardless of whether a small portion or large chunk of your argument has been debunked.
@anotherzombi Well my argument isn't deductive (hence it's technically invalid), but it is inductive (and a cogent argument I would sustain). Thus, deductive validity isn't really relevant. (Also, lack of legitimacy in my argument compromises the legitimacy in my argument? I would have never thought...)
I for one, don't see what's your basis to claim that my argument has no basis in reality. Reality can be perceived after all; behavior can be analyzed. Have you taken classes in logic?
@Zimx02 I haven't taken classes in logic, no. In fact Im not even quite finished highschool, but as you said grades aren't a measure of intelligence and as a result any schooling system which is based on grades would logically follow this flaw. I'll gladly punch above my own weight, I enjoy it and, if anything it only makes me smarter. I completely respect you, but at the same time I feel you don't have that same respect for people below you, and thats a major issue throughout society.
@Zimx02 "As I am impressed" your previous comment stated that no one was impressed with DarklordDragon, I am, and as a result there is no factual basis for your argument. This removes legitimacy from one portion of your argument and thus the whole thing, understand? I never said you were virtuous. In regards to the logic argument, tuche but enlightening people in an agressive manner and pointing out harmless flaws is not.
@anotherzombi I'm sorry, but you're trying to refute a hyperbole, a figure of speech. It could also be interpreted chronologically or it could be changed to "no one that matters is interested". Not all my claims are in equal ground, and this claim (not an argument, an argument is a different thing) is not part of the core of my arguments. So even if it were to hypothetically be wrong, trying to discredit my actual arguments from it would be a red herring.
@anotherzombi I didn't say you said I was virtuous. I said that I was virtuous, which was a partially facetious claim.
You seem to think that virtuous means "adept" or something, but virtuosity in philosophy is often referred to the quality of an individual to work towards a common good and possessing moral standards. In more laymen's terms, it would be implying that I a good person and I am still an asshole.
Have you even seen this guy? How can claim that extent of delusion is harmless?
@Zimx02 Modesty despite its unending, frustraiting premise, takes you to a far more closer sense of happiness as apposed to arrogance and anger in many ways what I'm trying to do is enlighten you into what I see and percieve, but I am not trying to tell you your place. You can be whoever you want to be, whoever you think you are- but when it comes down to it we have 3 identities, our internal identity (who we think we are), our external identity (Who we are) and our concience (Who we want to be)
@anotherzombi If you were to interpret "virtuosity" as "adeptness", I would say I'm pretty virtuous at being an asshole too.
So if you're taking the retard's side based on my lack of modesty, wouldn't that be completely hypocritical? I mean, did you even read the discussion? This person is not only flat-out unintelligent, uneducated, and helplessly imbecilic, but in his delusion he is unbearably pretentious, self-important, and overall tries to act like a cliched idiotic anime villain.
@anotherzombi As counter-intuitive as this may sound, you can also change people through mean manners. I have several examples of people that have changed for the better on that basis. I don't know if you're acquainted with Kierkegaard's concept of dread.
Even if this buffoon is to never change and die a delusional autistic joke, my methods served my personal purpose.
@Zimx02 Furthermore, as a philosophical man surely you must realise that a basis of reality is no basis whatsever, and that only that in which our minds choose to percieve can be the basis of anything if anything can indeed form a basis; but I digress. I myself am indeed impressed with DarklordDragon, the overiding honorability that many of his statements and indeed his entire argument proves him in many respects a greater man.
@Zimx02 Okay lets take a step back and look at this argument subjectively. Zimx02 clearly has a higher education than you DarklordDragon, dont get me wrong though, I'm not done. Haning said, the fact that an Educated person is so feverishly attacking someone whom, in their opinion is of lesser education completely contradicts the founding philosophical principles and benifits of education itself. The educated are there to protect the uneducated.
@Zimx02 Ah, good good. I see that you've once again come to a halt, submitting to losing the argument. Not to worry though, you didn't stand a chance anyway.
@DarklordDragon1 Why do you have to talk negative about retarded and autistic people? Even if retarded and autistic people are his only friends, then whats wrong with that? And why talk shit to an other person over the internet? That won't make you any better. No matter what you are. Like one "wise" man said over the internet: "It's like in the handicapped Olympics, if you win, your still handicapped"
No matter how this conversation started, but why not send messages, they can keep much more :)
@Zimx02 I find it funny how you think you're a Physicist and Logician; you're playing pretend, and it's showing in your posts. You're an outcast in society - unwanted. Also, you can look at it either way; to me, you're the one who keeps replying to me, and doing a bad job of it at that.
@Zimx02 I certainly have passed English, and with a good set of grades too. You must have been brought up in a rather poor household in order to obtain such a bad education and basic understanding of the way things work; I'm expecting your parents are selfish, non-loving alcoholics who didn't care for you when you were a child. It would explain why you've got such bad communication skills.
@Zimx02 I like the way you refer to me as a "stupid little kid" and the fact that you think you stand any chance of beating me, because you're not even close to winning. I'm neither stupid, or a little kid. Your way of so called arguing consists of merely insulting people, and telling them that they're dumb just because you know they're not. You're really coming across as jealous to me, probably because you never even had a good enough education when you were younger.
@Zimx02 Well, that's where you're wrong; nobody else in your position would do that, only you would. You're a low-life pathetic nerd who has nothing better to do with his time other than fail to argue valid points across to other people. Everything you have said is basically what I would expect from a 10 year old, and I'm absolutely clueless as to how you have still yet to grow up mentally.
@Zimx02 I missed a word out by accident, so what? You can't say you haven't done it before, because I'm certain that you have. Wikipedia articles are one of the worst things you could read to find out information, anyone could change it; we learn this very early on in life, and you obviously haven't. If you keep referring to the difference between the education levels, then it shows what kind of immature and arrogant person you are. I've never come across anyone before who's ever done that.
@Zimx02 Just because you know something, it doesn't go to say that everyone else has to/does know it also. You're clearly much older than me, and to be arguing against me by trying to insult my knowledge is righteously sad and unjustified. You seem to be always referring back to knowledge, suggesting that you are attempting to take advantage over the large level of education difference; this is quite the childish approach to this, and thus, YOU are committing a hominem fallacy.
@euma3000 I didn't imply that anywhere and that's the point. DarklordDragon was the only one to make a claim that can be interpreted as "internet interaction isn't social interaction" in his post where he tells me to socialize. It is not clear and is most likely just another misinterpretation of yours. Sticking to it without pointing it out just means you're stubborn and delusional.
Also, the problem is not being bad at English, it's being bad at logic, and none of you are any good at it.
@euma3000 I have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm assuming you're talking about your claim about social interactions (where came out of nowhere). To say I'm predictable is to have prior experience with me or at least people with me in similar situations based on an observed pattern of behavior, which is unlikely. Therefore you can't claim that I'm predictable.
Your "guessing" is ungrounded, I believe. I think you may have misread DarklordDragon1's post and thought it was mine.
Yes, I've "heard of the color gray". But when it comes to relevance vs irrelevance, there is no in-between. It's not a false-dichotomy. Not only that but you said, "slightly irrelevant", when irrelevant, by definition, means "not relevant". Thus your claim is entirely nonsensical.
And where did I ever say anything about social interaction, especially trying to say that social interaction does not happen through the internet? Point it out.
@euma3000 So you don't know what irrelevant means either. Something is either irrelevant or it's not. It's always funny when the most ludicrous of geeks tries to be condescending.
@AScrapBrainResident Oh look. The 13 year old, pathetic ugly geek that plays Sonic and gets laughed at by the girls in school says he pities me. That must surely make him feel like he's important despite the fact that he belongs to a group of autistic sonic geeks that is universally pitied.
Give it up kid, you're nothing but a retard. Everyone but yourself knows that. Just look at your group of friends.
@euma3000 The way you worded that implied that I made a claim about nerds. Not only is your explanation as to why it is irrelevant wrong (a red herring and irrelevant from a logic point of view), but if you acknowledge it's irrelevant, why did you even bring it up? Maybe you thought you were somehow refuting the "public" point?
If you're asking me to be lenient, then do not become defensive and try to act like you're on my ground. It's easier to just acknowledge you were illogical.
@euma3000 Whatever the hell you may think "social knowledge" is is entirely irrelevant as well.
I really suggest you take some college courses in logic because of right now, you're completely incompetent in anything argument and logic related. Run along now.
@euma3000 Well to tell yourself such things is really called "delusion".
I exploit "MY so-called" stereotype nerdy online behavior? I never claimed anything about nerds.
My arguments are not based on "educated language and remarks" in lieu of legitimate reasoning. I pointed out your flaws in reasoning behind your first claim, then I pointed out several fallacies and non-sequiturs in your logic. There's nothing to suggest I'm stubborn or whatever the hell you WANT to believe I am.
@euma3000 Lol. Pseudo-psychoanalytical jargon also comes in normal sentences. It's not like people create a new language for psychoanalytical talk, you buffoon.
I don't think you understand what "public" means. Anybody can access this youtube page, and thus it is public, which is how you and I (two complete strangers) are here.
A typical fake nerd? This is too funny. Suddenly being a "nerd" is a good thing, and I'm a "fake" one now?
What makes you a moron is your lack of intelligence.
@euma3000 What is there to swallow other than you being an idiot? You came here talking out of your ass, making the same cliche claim that dumb naive 13 year old morons do. You were made aware of your idiocy, and suddenly you turned into a defensive little shit trying to attack me using platitudes in his misguided attempt to make himself look like he's not really stupid. The funny thing is that it's entirely counterproductive.
Sad truth is you're just a moronic, pathetic geek.
@euma3000 Pretending what? You obviously are pretending you have some sort of argumentative skill. Look at your laughable attempt at psychoanalytical speech. In your little defensive response, you fell for the typical "uneducated soccer-mom" folly ad hominem of claiming someone is "insecure" without a basis in retaliation to a critique or an argument. You know what actual college kids do at people that use cliches for argumentation? We laugh at you.
@euma3000 Oh look, the thirteen year old thinks he's some sort of cliche psychoanalyst now. You really enjoy talking about things you know nothing about now, do you? You retards should know that "pretending" does not account for the real thing, which was the problem to begin with.
Please try to have some sort of education or relevant knowledge before speaking in public, especially with those laughable pretenses. That way you'll avoid making yourself look stupid.
@euma3000 The imbalance differences tend to be noticeable in any level of play. A low-level Yun is still likely to beat a low-level Hakan. And I hope you prefer being called a 13 year old over being called an idiot because it's really one or the other.
@euma3000 Herp derp, but some street fighter characters are inherently better than others. Why do 13 year old kids that don't understand tier lists bother commenting like they have something new and insightful to say?
Of course, a pro hakan could beat a noob Yun. But a pro Yun is likely to beat a pro Hakan. That's just the way it is.
@Zimx02 Why do people like you bother commenting if they don't even have anything relevant to say? You seriously need to shut up and think about what you're saying before you actually post it, because quite frankly, no one gives a damn about what you have to say. All I ever see you post is completed and utter crap about people lacking in intelligence; basically, it's all you ever say, and all you can say. Do you think that you're smart or something, because I can tell you now that you're idiot.
@DarklordDragon1 You have a good point, Zim if you are reading this, Just stop trying to bring up arguments and acting like your god or something. Clearly it's YOU who isn't being intelligent. You say people are not intelligent, yet you yourself are not intelligent. I smell hypocrisy from you.... If you wanna ask how you are not being intelligent, here is my answer: You constantly reply to people and say they suck, either because of their grammar or opinion or whatever. There is my answer idiot!
@AScrapBrainResident And you. You are the absolutely most moronic youtube geek there is.
First of all, there is no correlation between "constantly replying to 'opinion'" and lack of intelligence. Just any logic professor in any university.
Oh that's right, you've never set foot in a university because all you are is some 13 year old, pathetic ugly geek that plays Sonic and gets laughed at by the girls in school. Stop pretending you can argue you drooling retard and stop chasing me around.
@Zimx02 DarklordDragon1 is right, Zim, look on your side. Do you see anyone agreeing with you? No. Everyone hates you, you're the one that is the bad one. Deal with it!
@AScrapBrainResident Hey, stupid kid, here's something you may not know. Your argument is a form of an ad populum fallacy. That, for retarded little kids such as yourself, means that the amount of people disagreeing does not imply falsehood.
Furthermore, I would like you to take a closer look to the situation. Do you see who agrees with you? Oh, it's just your victimized clique of autistic friends. In the other hand, the entire philosophy department in my school agrees with me by default.
@DarklordDragon1 Oh great, another pseudo-intellectual internet champion geek from the beclauss posse of autistic kids.
Do you even know what "relevant" means? Look up where this discussion started. Oh I get it, the little retard kid thinks he can use logic terms despite never having learned them in a class or any other qualified medium. If what I'm saying is irrelevant, how is what you're saying relevant?
I, unlike you, know what I'm talking about when I post. You're just playing pretend.
@Zimx02 Firstly, I must congratulate you if you're aiming for the "most hated YouTuber" and "non-logical points" award, because you're doing a rather stunning job of it; I'm sure you'll get there in no time. Secondly, I'm neither autistic, retarded, or, your case, just plain thick . Somehow, you've gotten it into your head that it's not possible to learn anything outside of school, or that when terms are used in a sentence they must be wrong. Everything I've said makes sense, so deal with it.
@DarklordDragon1 That is another straw man fallacy (a logical fallacy). I did not claim that you can only learn things from school and your other condition is just desperate. It just happens that your "definition" does not correlate to the definition of the academia or the language in general. Provided you supplied absolutely no substantial back-up to the claim that what I said was irrelevant when it clearly is, it evinces you do not understand the term.
@DarklordDragon1 Here's a thing, fallacies don't make sense. You've evidently committed logical fallacies. Therefore not everything you've said makes sense.
Moreover, given your constant use of fallacies, misconceptions, and other exhibitions of ignorance- complemented with your laughable ostentation- completely justifies the claim that you're an idiot (or as you may put it (plain thick). In the other hand, given that your arguments are demonstrably flawed, you have no basis to make that claim
@Zimx02 Here's the thing - YOU don't make sense. Say, did you know that the sky is actually blue, and there are other people who walk around outside and socialise? Well, I don't expect you to know much about life outside of the internet, seeing as you spend literally all of your time on your computer picking pointless arguements that you always lose. Anyhow, this thing called the "outside" is a good place to visit on a regular bases, so I advise you to take my advice.
@DarklordDragon1 That you're too stupid to understand something doesn't mean that I don't make sense because, as everyone in the philosophy department can tell you, I do. Your whole tangent in the other hand is a red herring (fallacy).
Now the moronic geek thinks he can act like he's things to do? Ever notice how I've been replying to these in intervals of an hour more or less? I'm actually going to head out to a big party tonight, so what is your ugly geek ass going to do tonight?
@Zimx02 I'd bet you that the majority of everyone here is against you, and that's solely because you're the one who's wrong here, but you fail to see that because you're judgement is being clouded by your arrogance. You ask why I thought you've been taking so long to reply, and my answer is because you're so bad at coming up with a comeback to what I've said, that it takes you ages to figure out what to say; even when you do finally come up with something, it's practically the same and amusing.
@DarklordDragon1 By saying "you're betting" means that you have no grounds. You don't realize you're committing another fallacy (this time called ad hominem). Where do you even think I'm getting these terms from? There's books written that prove you wrong. A simple google search will show you the definitions of these fallacy terms.
It's funny that you have to contrive this little imaginary world to make yourself think you can win arguments. It's not logic, it's called "wishful thinking".
@Zimx02 No, by saying "you're betting" means that I can't exactly get full proof, seeing as not everyone is going to see this and reply; instead, it suggests that I have both a good reason and a good amount of proof to believe so. I honestly don't care where you're getting these pointless terms from, so I'm not even going to bother wasting my time by searching them up. To be honest, you don't have any social logic whatsoever, and everything you say is causing you to lose these arguments.
@DarklordDragon1 Haha, "social logic". Arguments are not won through "social logic", they're won through LOGIC. The real type. These are all important logic terms that you need to know if you ever plan on being "right". It's also funny you're trying to act like you're good at socializing when you associate only friends are the autistic kids that are forced to hang out with each other because they can't socialize with anyone else.
You're obviously never going to make it through college.
@Zimx02 You don't have logic, you don't understand the whole aspect of socialising, you don't understand that you've already lost, and most importantly, you don't have a life. You don't have the slightest clue on earth as to who I am or how I act in real life, so you can stop your stupid-ass assuming and crappy insults and maybe do something useful for a change. To you, knowledge is everything, yet you still lack the other key aspects to life which are what you need learn to be successful.
Also, you didn't answer my question. What is your ugly retarded geek ass going to do tonight? Don't bring shit up if you don't plan to go through with it.
@beclauss Sure. I'll do it as long as we can have a voice chat so me and I can invite a couple of friends (that probably won't participate) so we can laugh at your uneducated dumb asses and your high-pitched squeaky voices. Everything that had to be said has been said, and your stupid friend has demonstrated here, you've just decided to ignore logic and bark back as a mere primitive defense mechanism.
@DarklordDragon1 Says the moronic, uneducated internet geek from the autistic posse.
@Zimx02 You couldn't insult someone if your life depended on it, so stop with your pathetic and pointless nonsense. You think I'm a kid? Think again, you worthless low-life form.
@DarklordDragon1 Says the kid that is trying to use cliches as insults. "Pathetic pointless nonsense" "worthless low-life form". Where do you take your diction? Some laughably pretentious bad anime?
@DarklordDragon1 Listen, you're nothing. You have no education, you're unintelligent, and you're nothing but a sad joke to everyone around you. What in the world made you think your voice is valuable? You never received any relevant education and you know it. You choose to ignore the fallacies you're committing on a basis of ignorance, which puts you in the status of "retard" to anyone with an education.
@DarklordDragon1 The only thing keeping you talking is your desire to be special, just like every other unimportant delusional moronic geek like you out there. Arguing with you is like having a 9 year old trying to argue about physics with me with absolutely nothing to back himself up but his unwarranted self-importance.
@DarklordDragon1 You're an imbecile, and you're going to die an imbecile. Nothing will change that unless you come to terms with your idiocy, but you won't because of that geek ego of yours likes to think he's some sort of special kid like those cliche cartoon characters he likes.
Reality is another, and you can't choose what reality is. Keep telling yourself otherwise. Keep pretending that you can argue with scholars, but just do so quietly to your own where no one will shoot you down, geek.
@Zimx02 You can't even use "unintelligent" against me, because I know I've had a good education and have obtained good grades, so you're completely wrong about that, as you always are with your immature comments. You don't understand the meaning of the term "idiot", "unintelligent", "un-educated" or "stupid", because you're using them against someone you know has a lot more common sense than you and can do much, much better than you could have ever done.
@DarklordDragon1 Wow, you're dumber than I thought. Going to middleschool and getting As doesn't make you either intelligent or educated. The term "uneducated" refers to specific subjects. Therefore, if you like to argue about physics without having knowledge in physics, that makes you uneducated.
Here's the thing, you and I BOTH know you've never taken a single course in logic. Therefore you are uneducated in logic. Coincidentally, you're oblivious to all the fallacies you're committing.
@Zimx02 Going to middle school and getting As does make you intelligent and educated, and it doesn't take a genius to know that. If you were stupid, then you'd be getting Es and Us, meaning you haven't been educated well enough; your points are both invalid and absolutely outrageously stupid. The term "uneducated" does not refer to specific subjects, but however, means that you're not having a good education. You make me laugh, because you're the one who doesn't have any logic at all here...
@DarklordDragon1 It's funny you claim I don't have "logic" when you just keep using logic terms incorrectly. The term "valid" and "invalid" refer to qualifiers of deductive logic, thus you can't claim the specific arguments I presented are valid or invalid under the bases provided. Further proving you're uneducated.
@Zimx02 Holy crap! Can you please actually just write LOGICAL instead of LOGIC?! It is so frustrating when you take a simple use of basic termanology and repeatedly screw it up!!!!! LOGIC is the THING the IDEA the PHILOSOPHY, Logical is the term used to apply that idea, philosophy or thing to other things! Key terms are not the THING. you don't have Politics terms you have Political terms, you don't have Law terms you have Legal terms.
@anotherzombi Oh lol. There's actually still stuff going on in here?
Yeah, 'logic' is the concept. "Logical" is the qualifier. I just intended to make a distinction between terms that refer to the concept rather than terms that are qualified by the concept, however inappropriate it may be, similar to how people say "physics terms", not "physical terms". "Physical science terms" would be the proper way to say it, but it's okay to be short in youtube, right?
@DarklordDragon1 Furthermore, what makes you "stupid", "unintelligent", and an "idiot" is your lack of relevant knowledge (relevant is a key word), incompetence in reasoning, and your foolish pretenses.
Grades in school aren't a measure of "intelligence", but they are a reflection of the degree of satisfaction of academic tasks. Intelligence could facilitate the completion of these tasks, but it _effort_ is the main component to obtain grades in school.
@DarklordDragon1 Therefore, any "dumb" person could obtain good grades in school with the sufficient amount of effort, especially basic primary and secondary education. Your misconception about the correlation between intelligence and achievement in school only demonstrates your lack of comprehension, further reinforcing my claim that you're uneducated and unintelligent using adequate deductive and inductive reasoning.
@Zimx02 Being intelligent means to show a high level of knowledge, and in order to be obtaining As in exams, you need to be intelligent. You can easily gain intelligence by putting effort in, yes, and thus means that even a dumb person could advance through to getting good grades. How on earth do you think people become smart in the first place? They put effort in, revise, and get the work done to the best of their ability. Everything you're saying just goes to show that you have no understandin
@DarklordDragon1 That is a very cute and oversimplified misconception of what consists as "intelligence". A dumb person can get good grades and never necessarily become "intelligent". There's no mutual correlation between intelligence and grades. If you were sick during an exam and got an F and failed doesn't suddenly make you a moron. Why do you think it's called "academic achievement" and not "intelligence level"? It's just a measure of satisfaction any of your teachers can tell you that.
@Zimx02 You couldn't even explain what intelligence is any better than what I have done so. If you were sick during an exam, you wouldn't get an F, you would merely retake it. If I was the stupidest person on earth, I would be getting the lowest grades; if I was the smartest person on earth, I would be getting the highest grades. Point proved. I don't expect you've gotten any awards in your entire life time if all you do is try to push other people down in society as if to make them feel stupid.
@DarklordDragon1 You obviously don't understand how hypothetical statements work. By ignoring the reasoning in my hypothetical claim and instead attempting to circumvent the hypothetical situation, you've effectively committed the fallacy of "missing the point", which is that there's no direct correlation between good grades and intelligence.
If you were somehow unable to make it to the exam (regardless the condition) and got an F (in college you can't retake tests) that doesn't make you dumber
@DarklordDragon1 There's also no such thing as "common sense" in logic. That is a term that philistines like you to skew in order to give themselves false credentials. You've only demonstrated lack of logic and knowledge in this discussion, so there's really nothing that suggests that someone as painfully ignorant as you can do any better than me (someone established as competent in the field). Given your proved lack of education and yours is observably just another case of wishful thinking.
@Zimx02 I never said anything about common sense in logic, I was just on about it in general; by this, I mean that all your points should just... not be there, especially if you had any common sense at all. I have not got a lack of education at all, and I have demonstrated that within my exams, proving you to be completely wrong. If I lacked in education, I wouldn't be beating you with every reply I make, because I'm absolutely sure that you're making stuff up, trying to make yourself seem smart
@DarklordDragon1 That's the thing, you're not beating me in any reply, you're just making ignorant claims and you want to believe you're right because you don't know any better. It's just like a kid trying to debate about physics against someone with a Ph.D. The kid doesn't have any understanding about physics other than his preconceived oversimplified notions, yet he's lead to believe that he's winning the debate he promptly replies his misconceptions and does not understand the doctor.
@Zimx02 No, definitely not. I know that I'm beating you because I, for one, actually know that I'm talking about. You just make your childish little remarks, thinking that they're proving a point, when you're actually embarrassing yourself in front of everyone.
@DarklordDragon1 Conversely, a person could hypothetically be very intelligent, yet put absolutely no effort in school, and therefore obtain Fs and Es in his grades. Despite his poor academic performance, he could understand the content of the classes far better than any of his classmates. This situation is very rare however. That is why psychologists and teachers all claim that "intelligence" is separate from academic achievement. Just ask any of your teachers, seriously.
@DarklordDragon1 Also, I'm a philosophy major (philosophy is heavily based on logic), so I think I know what I'm talking about. As evident by your ignorance of many of the terms I've used, it is clear that it is YOU who doesn't know or understand what I'm talking about. I should also mention that I've gotten As in all of my logic courses (whereas other people that I relate to your form of thinking have been struggling with the courses). You're severely out of your league.
@Zimx02 You don't have a clue as to the ways in which I think, so I wouldn't even bother going there, because I know you're just going to be wrong again. You, my boy, are socially dead. (Though it would actually be even better if you were physically dead too).
@DarklordDragon1 I do have a clue to the ways you think are, and as you've clearly demonstrated here it is "full of misconceptions, oversimplified, delusional and fallacious reasoning". You haven't even tried to excuse the fallacies you've committed (which I've pointed out), instead you ignore them and pretend they aren't there.
@DarklordDragon1 Socially dead? I spent the entire weekend with friends and attended a large party. I know what this is though. Your litte geek ass doesn't know anything and therefore in order to comfort himself and in attempt to make himself better he brings up something irrelevant. This, is called a red herring fallacy. Social life is irrelevant to logic as it is irrelevant to math and physics.
@DarklordDragon1 Besides, who are you to talk, little geek kid? Do you seriously consider socializing with your other autistic geek sonic teenage friends that of an achievement?
There's nothing for you to do here. You're just an uneducated kid that is trying to be special. You think you're proving something, but it's entirely counterproductive. You're just telling yourself otherwise because you're unable to handle the truth of your incompetence. If you don't understand logic, don't argue.
@Zimx02 I'm tired, you bore me with your make-belief life. Go back to your worthless studies and stop trying to win an argument with a person that you don't stand a chance against.
@DarklordDragon1 Says the uneducated kid without a logic education that thinks he can argue with a logic student. Go back to your role-playing geek friends, retard.
@DarklordDragon1 If you have an education in logic, howcome you keep using logic terms such as "validity", "coherence", and "relevance" incorrectly? Why do you keep committing the same logical fallacies such as red herrings (ignoratio elenchi), straw mans, and ad hominems? If you have an education in logic, howcome you DON'T EVEN KNOW what these mean despite being taught in all introductory courses?
There's an obvious discrepancy between your claims and reality, and it's just funny.
@Zimx02 In no case have I used those terms incorrectly; you just don't want to admit that I'm correct, because as I've said before, you're just an arrogant, self-centred, heartless, lesser being. I've seen your channel, and I've also seen the many comments that reflect you negatively because of who you are; nobody likes you. You clearly don't understand that people have, and do, prove you wrong, yet you still believe everything you say is somehow more important and right than what anyoneelsesays
@DarklordDragon1 An ad hominem is not a rebuttal. Good job at proving me right.
I'm also glad you willingly associate yourself to the morons in my comments section. They're an inaccurate representation of the population, by the way. They're all morons like you. You're obviously neither a scientist nor a logician.
@Zimx02 I never proved you right, so stop acting like such a dink to try and annoy me, because it's not working. There's only one moron here, and that's you; if you want, I could get a full list of people who agree with me on that.
Also, no, I'm not a scientist, and I wouldn't want to waste my time by being one, so just keep quiet. I'm quite happy for you to waste your life away by thinking you're making a difference to the world, when the only difference you are making is a bad one to yourself
@DarklordDragon1 You seem to think there is some sort of "universal standard" of education and intelligence. The term "uneducated" is mostly used as a _relative_ term. IE, completing a basic education requirement (middleschool) _does_ give you a degree of education, but it does not make you adequately educated in a field. To put this in a way, you ( a middleschool student) are uneducated relative to me (a university physics and philosophy double major), especially in my fields.
@Zimx02 I'm not a middle-school student, but you sure do seem to fit the position, what with all your poorly constructed arguments and childish attitude towards this whole thing.
You... take philosophy? Oh goodness, I hope you know that you've practically failed it already. Oooh, but wait, you're also a "double major", I'm so intimidated. (That was sarcasm by the way, so don't take it too seriously). You cannot form coherent arguments, so you may as well just give up.
@DarklordDragon1 Coherent arguments is part of basic deductive logic, and I passed that with flying colors. I don't even think you know what a coherent argument is.
Again, please stop talking about things you know nothing about. It's like having a little christian kid think he's smarter than Richard Dawkins.
@DarklordDragon1 Oh, and for your question without a question mark... or
"Do you think that you're smart or something[,] because I can tell you now that you're [an] idiot."
Oh sure, thanks. I certainly trust the misinformed opinion of the autistic defensive kid that uses terms he doesn't understand, uses straw man fallacies, and tries to act condescending with broken English.
@rasne100 It's MOSTLY about the player, but given that all characters are different, one must inherently be better than the other one at something. It just happens that Hakan has the least advantages and the worst match-ups.
Why are both the top-rated comments from the same guy who sounds like an absolute imbecile? I mean, don't get me wrong, I understand his meaning and I overall agree (low-tier lovers should be modest and accepting, and not try to talk like they're gods if they can win with them, same in any game) but seriously, this guy sounds like a massive douche I wanna disagree with just to spite him.
@yaotzin44 dont tell that to the "Expert" players they will call you a scrub. Apparently spamming hadoukens and dragon punches is pro. Maybe pro but it sure is boring to watch.
Hakan is weak, but i mean, i play hakan some times, he is cool, interesting gameplay, but all his special moves are unsafe,also his super, to avoid it, just crouch.
And, IMO the reason why some hakans can win alot of matches is, like, ALMOST NOBODY uses Hakan, and even if its weak, knowing some little tricks of hakan, you can win a match becaus the other guy dosent know how to deal with it, lol
Anyone know what they said before this? I get the impression they were talking about which characters are strong, anyone know if they had this convo and if so, who they mentioned?
They only fear Hakan, i used him many times and he´s VERY effective against Street Fighter noobs i mean shoto players, because if Hakan makes his oil shower and the fireballs go throught him the "pro´s" have to fight without fireballs. And then their ass get kicked by hakan. That shows that these players are WEAK just WEAK. I played 3 weeks ago Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD remix, and there was a player who plays only Zangief or Hawk. Guess what he was a pro without ryu, ken or sagay.
Oh jeeze, top Japanese players agree that Hakan is the "hardest character to use", and everyone thinks this is somehow controversial. If you like Hakan, just use him and prove he's a viable character, don't listen to all these punks saying high-level Hakans are a myth.
@BloodSportA2 his not hard to use he just has no good combos or good anti airs and etc so you can only stay good with him you can be a tourney player with him
@yaktr12 He's a gimmick grappler. He doesn't really have any big links, and his anti-air game mostly revolves around using his move-able focus (when oiled) and his oil dive (of course spacing that is tricky). Hakan is a hard character to use right now because the fight doesn't even start until he oils up, and yet the oil doesn't even stack. When the arcade patch comes to console, I expect we will see a lot more, regardless of Zell445Return's opinions.
Hakan's a unique character, but he's damn good in the right hands. There's B+ people who main Hakan and an evo player as well. He's not just for casual players. He's just very different, so a lot of people don't really try him out.
I actually have great trouble against Hakan. Mostly because I can't react quickly enough to his oil slide to block it. Also, once he gets ultra 2, no more jump ins. Anyone have tips for stopping oil slide?
ALL characters have their advantages and disadvantages...hakan can be good if you know the combos, matchups, priorities, etc...you just gotta learn how to use him effectively
Mago is sexy no homo
metallicat67 3 months ago
@anotherzombi If we're to assume your 3 identities notion, the only thing that truly matters is that having such a large and ridiculous gap between your internal and external identities makes you nothing less of an idiot.
You can be whoever you want (in potential), but that doesn't you ever will be without any genuine effort in that direction.
I seriously hope you don't think you're teaching me something or that you have a point. Stay in school so I don't have to clear your misconceptions.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I'm probably not going to reply after this, mainly due to my final exams aproaching, but I honestly don't think someone is an idiot for having a gap between their internal and external identities. I mean, if a man sees himself as a first and foremost a writer but at the same time is known for drawing comics his external identity projects him as an artist. "you're trying to refute a hyperbole" I know, I was doing this on purpose. And I'm not confusing virtuous for adeptness.
anotherzombi 5 months ago
@anotherzombi If you know you're falling for a hyperbole, why do you even try to make an argument?
I also said a ridiculous gap between internal and external, aka being delusional.
Well, that doesn't necessarily make me wrong either.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I know what both words mean, and in terms of changing people by being mean sure, you can change people through multiple manners, take Polpot for example, he murdered 2million people to change the economic nature of his nation, and as a result I'm sure there were a lot of people who stopped going to school or getting an education out of fear. It's a dramatic example, but the point still stands that you can change people through many ways- but that doesn't make it right.
anotherzombi 5 months ago
@Zimx02 In conclusion, If you are intelligent as I believe you are, perhaps you should look up to the stars, and maybe will realise as John Keats gravestone was written "Here lies one who's name was writ in water". And maybe, just maybe you will begin to understand how insignificant argueing with people who are (in your eyes) lesser and instead find gratification as many others have- in helping those less fortunate.
anotherzombi 5 months ago
@anotherzombi Enlightening and letting people know their place is helping them. I'm both virtuous and an asshole. How about that?
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 As I am impressed your argument has no basis in reality and as a result holds no validity nor legitimacy, further compramising the legitimacy of your entire coherently formed argument. Without a basis of reality, formed through reality based evidence you suffer a great loss of credibility- regardless of whether a small portion or large chunk of your argument has been debunked.
anotherzombi 5 months ago
@anotherzombi Well my argument isn't deductive (hence it's technically invalid), but it is inductive (and a cogent argument I would sustain). Thus, deductive validity isn't really relevant. (Also, lack of legitimacy in my argument compromises the legitimacy in my argument? I would have never thought...)
I for one, don't see what's your basis to claim that my argument has no basis in reality. Reality can be perceived after all; behavior can be analyzed. Have you taken classes in logic?
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I haven't taken classes in logic, no. In fact Im not even quite finished highschool, but as you said grades aren't a measure of intelligence and as a result any schooling system which is based on grades would logically follow this flaw. I'll gladly punch above my own weight, I enjoy it and, if anything it only makes me smarter. I completely respect you, but at the same time I feel you don't have that same respect for people below you, and thats a major issue throughout society.
anotherzombi 5 months ago
@Zimx02 "As I am impressed" your previous comment stated that no one was impressed with DarklordDragon, I am, and as a result there is no factual basis for your argument. This removes legitimacy from one portion of your argument and thus the whole thing, understand? I never said you were virtuous. In regards to the logic argument, tuche but enlightening people in an agressive manner and pointing out harmless flaws is not.
anotherzombi 5 months ago
@anotherzombi I'm sorry, but you're trying to refute a hyperbole, a figure of speech. It could also be interpreted chronologically or it could be changed to "no one that matters is interested". Not all my claims are in equal ground, and this claim (not an argument, an argument is a different thing) is not part of the core of my arguments. So even if it were to hypothetically be wrong, trying to discredit my actual arguments from it would be a red herring.
Your notions are logically fallacious.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@anotherzombi I didn't say you said I was virtuous. I said that I was virtuous, which was a partially facetious claim.
You seem to think that virtuous means "adept" or something, but virtuosity in philosophy is often referred to the quality of an individual to work towards a common good and possessing moral standards. In more laymen's terms, it would be implying that I a good person and I am still an asshole.
Have you even seen this guy? How can claim that extent of delusion is harmless?
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 Modesty despite its unending, frustraiting premise, takes you to a far more closer sense of happiness as apposed to arrogance and anger in many ways what I'm trying to do is enlighten you into what I see and percieve, but I am not trying to tell you your place. You can be whoever you want to be, whoever you think you are- but when it comes down to it we have 3 identities, our internal identity (who we think we are), our external identity (Who we are) and our concience (Who we want to be)
anotherzombi 5 months ago
@anotherzombi If you were to interpret "virtuosity" as "adeptness", I would say I'm pretty virtuous at being an asshole too.
So if you're taking the retard's side based on my lack of modesty, wouldn't that be completely hypocritical? I mean, did you even read the discussion? This person is not only flat-out unintelligent, uneducated, and helplessly imbecilic, but in his delusion he is unbearably pretentious, self-important, and overall tries to act like a cliched idiotic anime villain.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@anotherzombi As counter-intuitive as this may sound, you can also change people through mean manners. I have several examples of people that have changed for the better on that basis. I don't know if you're acquainted with Kierkegaard's concept of dread.
Even if this buffoon is to never change and die a delusional autistic joke, my methods served my personal purpose.
Zimx02 5 months ago
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Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 Furthermore, as a philosophical man surely you must realise that a basis of reality is no basis whatsever, and that only that in which our minds choose to percieve can be the basis of anything if anything can indeed form a basis; but I digress. I myself am indeed impressed with DarklordDragon, the overiding honorability that many of his statements and indeed his entire argument proves him in many respects a greater man.
anotherzombi 5 months ago
@Zimx02 Okay lets take a step back and look at this argument subjectively. Zimx02 clearly has a higher education than you DarklordDragon, dont get me wrong though, I'm not done. Haning said, the fact that an Educated person is so feverishly attacking someone whom, in their opinion is of lesser education completely contradicts the founding philosophical principles and benifits of education itself. The educated are there to protect the uneducated.
anotherzombi 5 months ago
Read the whole thing, absolutely hilarious.
Psyneku 5 months ago
Woah big argument here........
beclauss 5 months ago
@Zimx02 Ah, good good. I see that you've once again come to a halt, submitting to losing the argument. Not to worry though, you didn't stand a chance anyway.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Why do you have to talk negative about retarded and autistic people? Even if retarded and autistic people are his only friends, then whats wrong with that? And why talk shit to an other person over the internet? That won't make you any better. No matter what you are. Like one "wise" man said over the internet: "It's like in the handicapped Olympics, if you win, your still handicapped"
No matter how this conversation started, but why not send messages, they can keep much more :)
joinmebowser9000 5 months ago
@joinmebowser9000 I'm pretty sure you're addressing the wrong person here. Zimx02 was the one who was talking down to those with mental disabilities.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Actually I think he is replying to Zim I think, judging by the comment, be might've made a mistake
beclauss 5 months ago
@beclauss I know, which is why I said I thought he was speaking the wrong person.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I find it funny how you think you're a Physicist and Logician; you're playing pretend, and it's showing in your posts. You're an outcast in society - unwanted. Also, you can look at it either way; to me, you're the one who keeps replying to me, and doing a bad job of it at that.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I certainly have passed English, and with a good set of grades too. You must have been brought up in a rather poor household in order to obtain such a bad education and basic understanding of the way things work; I'm expecting your parents are selfish, non-loving alcoholics who didn't care for you when you were a child. It would explain why you've got such bad communication skills.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I like the way you refer to me as a "stupid little kid" and the fact that you think you stand any chance of beating me, because you're not even close to winning. I'm neither stupid, or a little kid. Your way of so called arguing consists of merely insulting people, and telling them that they're dumb just because you know they're not. You're really coming across as jealous to me, probably because you never even had a good enough education when you were younger.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@Zimx02 Well, that's where you're wrong; nobody else in your position would do that, only you would. You're a low-life pathetic nerd who has nothing better to do with his time other than fail to argue valid points across to other people. Everything you have said is basically what I would expect from a 10 year old, and I'm absolutely clueless as to how you have still yet to grow up mentally.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I missed a word out by accident, so what? You can't say you haven't done it before, because I'm certain that you have. Wikipedia articles are one of the worst things you could read to find out information, anyone could change it; we learn this very early on in life, and you obviously haven't. If you keep referring to the difference between the education levels, then it shows what kind of immature and arrogant person you are. I've never come across anyone before who's ever done that.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@Zimx02 Just because you know something, it doesn't go to say that everyone else has to/does know it also. You're clearly much older than me, and to be arguing against me by trying to insult my knowledge is righteously sad and unjustified. You seem to be always referring back to knowledge, suggesting that you are attempting to take advantage over the large level of education difference; this is quite the childish approach to this, and thus, YOU are committing a hominem fallacy.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@euma3000 I didn't imply that anywhere and that's the point. DarklordDragon was the only one to make a claim that can be interpreted as "internet interaction isn't social interaction" in his post where he tells me to socialize. It is not clear and is most likely just another misinterpretation of yours. Sticking to it without pointing it out just means you're stubborn and delusional.
Also, the problem is not being bad at English, it's being bad at logic, and none of you are any good at it.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 I have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm assuming you're talking about your claim about social interactions (where came out of nowhere). To say I'm predictable is to have prior experience with me or at least people with me in similar situations based on an observed pattern of behavior, which is unlikely. Therefore you can't claim that I'm predictable.
Your "guessing" is ungrounded, I believe. I think you may have misread DarklordDragon1's post and thought it was mine.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 What misconception have I demonstrated?
Yes, I've "heard of the color gray". But when it comes to relevance vs irrelevance, there is no in-between. It's not a false-dichotomy. Not only that but you said, "slightly irrelevant", when irrelevant, by definition, means "not relevant". Thus your claim is entirely nonsensical.
And where did I ever say anything about social interaction, especially trying to say that social interaction does not happen through the internet? Point it out.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 So you don't know what irrelevant means either. Something is either irrelevant or it's not. It's always funny when the most ludicrous of geeks tries to be condescending.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 ALOT of people (me included) pity him
AScrapBrainResident 6 months ago
@AScrapBrainResident Oh look. The 13 year old, pathetic ugly geek that plays Sonic and gets laughed at by the girls in school says he pities me. That must surely make him feel like he's important despite the fact that he belongs to a group of autistic sonic geeks that is universally pitied.
Give it up kid, you're nothing but a retard. Everyone but yourself knows that. Just look at your group of friends.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 The way you worded that implied that I made a claim about nerds. Not only is your explanation as to why it is irrelevant wrong (a red herring and irrelevant from a logic point of view), but if you acknowledge it's irrelevant, why did you even bring it up? Maybe you thought you were somehow refuting the "public" point?
If you're asking me to be lenient, then do not become defensive and try to act like you're on my ground. It's easier to just acknowledge you were illogical.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 I feel your pain, I've dealt with zim on another video as well, but I'm not bringing it up
beclauss 6 months ago
@euma3000 Whatever the hell you may think "social knowledge" is is entirely irrelevant as well.
I really suggest you take some college courses in logic because of right now, you're completely incompetent in anything argument and logic related. Run along now.
Zimx02 6 months ago
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beclauss 6 months ago
@euma3000 Well to tell yourself such things is really called "delusion".
I exploit "MY so-called" stereotype nerdy online behavior? I never claimed anything about nerds.
My arguments are not based on "educated language and remarks" in lieu of legitimate reasoning. I pointed out your flaws in reasoning behind your first claim, then I pointed out several fallacies and non-sequiturs in your logic. There's nothing to suggest I'm stubborn or whatever the hell you WANT to believe I am.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 Lol. Pseudo-psychoanalytical jargon also comes in normal sentences. It's not like people create a new language for psychoanalytical talk, you buffoon.
I don't think you understand what "public" means. Anybody can access this youtube page, and thus it is public, which is how you and I (two complete strangers) are here.
A typical fake nerd? This is too funny. Suddenly being a "nerd" is a good thing, and I'm a "fake" one now?
What makes you a moron is your lack of intelligence.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 What is there to swallow other than you being an idiot? You came here talking out of your ass, making the same cliche claim that dumb naive 13 year old morons do. You were made aware of your idiocy, and suddenly you turned into a defensive little shit trying to attack me using platitudes in his misguided attempt to make himself look like he's not really stupid. The funny thing is that it's entirely counterproductive.
Sad truth is you're just a moronic, pathetic geek.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 Pretending what? You obviously are pretending you have some sort of argumentative skill. Look at your laughable attempt at psychoanalytical speech. In your little defensive response, you fell for the typical "uneducated soccer-mom" folly ad hominem of claiming someone is "insecure" without a basis in retaliation to a critique or an argument. You know what actual college kids do at people that use cliches for argumentation? We laugh at you.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 Oh look, the thirteen year old thinks he's some sort of cliche psychoanalyst now. You really enjoy talking about things you know nothing about now, do you? You retards should know that "pretending" does not account for the real thing, which was the problem to begin with.
Please try to have some sort of education or relevant knowledge before speaking in public, especially with those laughable pretenses. That way you'll avoid making yourself look stupid.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 The imbalance differences tend to be noticeable in any level of play. A low-level Yun is still likely to beat a low-level Hakan. And I hope you prefer being called a 13 year old over being called an idiot because it's really one or the other.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@euma3000 Herp derp, but some street fighter characters are inherently better than others. Why do 13 year old kids that don't understand tier lists bother commenting like they have something new and insightful to say?
Of course, a pro hakan could beat a noob Yun. But a pro Yun is likely to beat a pro Hakan. That's just the way it is.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 Why do people like you bother commenting if they don't even have anything relevant to say? You seriously need to shut up and think about what you're saying before you actually post it, because quite frankly, no one gives a damn about what you have to say. All I ever see you post is completed and utter crap about people lacking in intelligence; basically, it's all you ever say, and all you can say. Do you think that you're smart or something, because I can tell you now that you're idiot.
DarklordDragon1 6 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 You have a good point, Zim if you are reading this, Just stop trying to bring up arguments and acting like your god or something. Clearly it's YOU who isn't being intelligent. You say people are not intelligent, yet you yourself are not intelligent. I smell hypocrisy from you.... If you wanna ask how you are not being intelligent, here is my answer: You constantly reply to people and say they suck, either because of their grammar or opinion or whatever. There is my answer idiot!
AScrapBrainResident 6 months ago
@AScrapBrainResident And you. You are the absolutely most moronic youtube geek there is.
First of all, there is no correlation between "constantly replying to 'opinion'" and lack of intelligence. Just any logic professor in any university.
Oh that's right, you've never set foot in a university because all you are is some 13 year old, pathetic ugly geek that plays Sonic and gets laughed at by the girls in school. Stop pretending you can argue you drooling retard and stop chasing me around.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 DarklordDragon1 is right, Zim, look on your side. Do you see anyone agreeing with you? No. Everyone hates you, you're the one that is the bad one. Deal with it!
AScrapBrainResident 6 months ago
@AScrapBrainResident Hey, stupid kid, here's something you may not know. Your argument is a form of an ad populum fallacy. That, for retarded little kids such as yourself, means that the amount of people disagreeing does not imply falsehood.
Furthermore, I would like you to take a closer look to the situation. Do you see who agrees with you? Oh, it's just your victimized clique of autistic friends. In the other hand, the entire philosophy department in my school agrees with me by default.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Oh great, another pseudo-intellectual internet champion geek from the beclauss posse of autistic kids.
Do you even know what "relevant" means? Look up where this discussion started. Oh I get it, the little retard kid thinks he can use logic terms despite never having learned them in a class or any other qualified medium. If what I'm saying is irrelevant, how is what you're saying relevant?
I, unlike you, know what I'm talking about when I post. You're just playing pretend.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 Firstly, I must congratulate you if you're aiming for the "most hated YouTuber" and "non-logical points" award, because you're doing a rather stunning job of it; I'm sure you'll get there in no time. Secondly, I'm neither autistic, retarded, or, your case, just plain thick . Somehow, you've gotten it into your head that it's not possible to learn anything outside of school, or that when terms are used in a sentence they must be wrong. Everything I've said makes sense, so deal with it.
DarklordDragon1 6 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 That is another straw man fallacy (a logical fallacy). I did not claim that you can only learn things from school and your other condition is just desperate. It just happens that your "definition" does not correlate to the definition of the academia or the language in general. Provided you supplied absolutely no substantial back-up to the claim that what I said was irrelevant when it clearly is, it evinces you do not understand the term.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 when it clearly is relevant*
Zimx02 6 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Here's a thing, fallacies don't make sense. You've evidently committed logical fallacies. Therefore not everything you've said makes sense.
Moreover, given your constant use of fallacies, misconceptions, and other exhibitions of ignorance- complemented with your laughable ostentation- completely justifies the claim that you're an idiot (or as you may put it (plain thick). In the other hand, given that your arguments are demonstrably flawed, you have no basis to make that claim
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 Here's the thing - YOU don't make sense. Say, did you know that the sky is actually blue, and there are other people who walk around outside and socialise? Well, I don't expect you to know much about life outside of the internet, seeing as you spend literally all of your time on your computer picking pointless arguements that you always lose. Anyhow, this thing called the "outside" is a good place to visit on a regular bases, so I advise you to take my advice.
DarklordDragon1 6 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 That you're too stupid to understand something doesn't mean that I don't make sense because, as everyone in the philosophy department can tell you, I do. Your whole tangent in the other hand is a red herring (fallacy).
Now the moronic geek thinks he can act like he's things to do? Ever notice how I've been replying to these in intervals of an hour more or less? I'm actually going to head out to a big party tonight, so what is your ugly geek ass going to do tonight?
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 I'd bet you that the majority of everyone here is against you, and that's solely because you're the one who's wrong here, but you fail to see that because you're judgement is being clouded by your arrogance. You ask why I thought you've been taking so long to reply, and my answer is because you're so bad at coming up with a comeback to what I've said, that it takes you ages to figure out what to say; even when you do finally come up with something, it's practically the same and amusing.
DarklordDragon1 6 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 By saying "you're betting" means that you have no grounds. You don't realize you're committing another fallacy (this time called ad hominem). Where do you even think I'm getting these terms from? There's books written that prove you wrong. A simple google search will show you the definitions of these fallacy terms.
It's funny that you have to contrive this little imaginary world to make yourself think you can win arguments. It's not logic, it's called "wishful thinking".
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 No, by saying "you're betting" means that I can't exactly get full proof, seeing as not everyone is going to see this and reply; instead, it suggests that I have both a good reason and a good amount of proof to believe so. I honestly don't care where you're getting these pointless terms from, so I'm not even going to bother wasting my time by searching them up. To be honest, you don't have any social logic whatsoever, and everything you say is causing you to lose these arguments.
DarklordDragon1 6 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Haha, "social logic". Arguments are not won through "social logic", they're won through LOGIC. The real type. These are all important logic terms that you need to know if you ever plan on being "right". It's also funny you're trying to act like you're good at socializing when you associate only friends are the autistic kids that are forced to hang out with each other because they can't socialize with anyone else.
You're obviously never going to make it through college.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 You don't have logic, you don't understand the whole aspect of socialising, you don't understand that you've already lost, and most importantly, you don't have a life. You don't have the slightest clue on earth as to who I am or how I act in real life, so you can stop your stupid-ass assuming and crappy insults and maybe do something useful for a change. To you, knowledge is everything, yet you still lack the other key aspects to life which are what you need learn to be successful.
DarklordDragon1 6 months ago
Also, you didn't answer my question. What is your ugly retarded geek ass going to do tonight? Don't bring shit up if you don't plan to go through with it.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 What do I plan on doing tonight? Hmm, let me think about that for a moment... Right, I know now; I'll be sleeping.
DarklordDragon1 6 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Then go to bed you geeky little kid. Nobody needs you awake.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 I'm not a little kid, and I'm certainly not a geek. Plus, I can go to sleep when I like, so you can just be quiet.
DarklordDragon1 6 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Whether you're a geek or not is not up to you to decide, little geek.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 Pfft, petty little insults like that are what make you look like such an outcast in society.
DarklordDragon1 6 months ago
@Zimx02 Look at ur PM, we wanna have a chat on Skype!
beclauss 6 months ago
@beclauss Sure. I'll do it as long as we can have a voice chat so me and I can invite a couple of friends (that probably won't participate) so we can laugh at your uneducated dumb asses and your high-pitched squeaky voices. Everything that had to be said has been said, and your stupid friend has demonstrated here, you've just decided to ignore logic and bark back as a mere primitive defense mechanism.
@DarklordDragon1 Says the moronic, uneducated internet geek from the autistic posse.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 You couldn't insult someone if your life depended on it, so stop with your pathetic and pointless nonsense. You think I'm a kid? Think again, you worthless low-life form.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Says the kid that is trying to use cliches as insults. "Pathetic pointless nonsense" "worthless low-life form". Where do you take your diction? Some laughably pretentious bad anime?
Zimx02 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Listen, you're nothing. You have no education, you're unintelligent, and you're nothing but a sad joke to everyone around you. What in the world made you think your voice is valuable? You never received any relevant education and you know it. You choose to ignore the fallacies you're committing on a basis of ignorance, which puts you in the status of "retard" to anyone with an education.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 The only thing keeping you talking is your desire to be special, just like every other unimportant delusional moronic geek like you out there. Arguing with you is like having a 9 year old trying to argue about physics with me with absolutely nothing to back himself up but his unwarranted self-importance.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 You're an imbecile, and you're going to die an imbecile. Nothing will change that unless you come to terms with your idiocy, but you won't because of that geek ego of yours likes to think he's some sort of special kid like those cliche cartoon characters he likes.
Reality is another, and you can't choose what reality is. Keep telling yourself otherwise. Keep pretending that you can argue with scholars, but just do so quietly to your own where no one will shoot you down, geek.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 You can't even use "unintelligent" against me, because I know I've had a good education and have obtained good grades, so you're completely wrong about that, as you always are with your immature comments. You don't understand the meaning of the term "idiot", "unintelligent", "un-educated" or "stupid", because you're using them against someone you know has a lot more common sense than you and can do much, much better than you could have ever done.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Wow, you're dumber than I thought. Going to middleschool and getting As doesn't make you either intelligent or educated. The term "uneducated" refers to specific subjects. Therefore, if you like to argue about physics without having knowledge in physics, that makes you uneducated.
Here's the thing, you and I BOTH know you've never taken a single course in logic. Therefore you are uneducated in logic. Coincidentally, you're oblivious to all the fallacies you're committing.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 Going to middle school and getting As does make you intelligent and educated, and it doesn't take a genius to know that. If you were stupid, then you'd be getting Es and Us, meaning you haven't been educated well enough; your points are both invalid and absolutely outrageously stupid. The term "uneducated" does not refer to specific subjects, but however, means that you're not having a good education. You make me laugh, because you're the one who doesn't have any logic at all here...
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 It's funny you claim I don't have "logic" when you just keep using logic terms incorrectly. The term "valid" and "invalid" refer to qualifiers of deductive logic, thus you can't claim the specific arguments I presented are valid or invalid under the bases provided. Further proving you're uneducated.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 Holy crap! Can you please actually just write LOGICAL instead of LOGIC?! It is so frustrating when you take a simple use of basic termanology and repeatedly screw it up!!!!! LOGIC is the THING the IDEA the PHILOSOPHY, Logical is the term used to apply that idea, philosophy or thing to other things! Key terms are not the THING. you don't have Politics terms you have Political terms, you don't have Law terms you have Legal terms.
anotherzombi 5 months ago
@anotherzombi Oh lol. There's actually still stuff going on in here?
Yeah, 'logic' is the concept. "Logical" is the qualifier. I just intended to make a distinction between terms that refer to the concept rather than terms that are qualified by the concept, however inappropriate it may be, similar to how people say "physics terms", not "physical terms". "Physical science terms" would be the proper way to say it, but it's okay to be short in youtube, right?
Zimx02 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Furthermore, what makes you "stupid", "unintelligent", and an "idiot" is your lack of relevant knowledge (relevant is a key word), incompetence in reasoning, and your foolish pretenses.
Grades in school aren't a measure of "intelligence", but they are a reflection of the degree of satisfaction of academic tasks. Intelligence could facilitate the completion of these tasks, but it _effort_ is the main component to obtain grades in school.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Therefore, any "dumb" person could obtain good grades in school with the sufficient amount of effort, especially basic primary and secondary education. Your misconception about the correlation between intelligence and achievement in school only demonstrates your lack of comprehension, further reinforcing my claim that you're uneducated and unintelligent using adequate deductive and inductive reasoning.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 Being intelligent means to show a high level of knowledge, and in order to be obtaining As in exams, you need to be intelligent. You can easily gain intelligence by putting effort in, yes, and thus means that even a dumb person could advance through to getting good grades. How on earth do you think people become smart in the first place? They put effort in, revise, and get the work done to the best of their ability. Everything you're saying just goes to show that you have no understandin
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 That is a very cute and oversimplified misconception of what consists as "intelligence". A dumb person can get good grades and never necessarily become "intelligent". There's no mutual correlation between intelligence and grades. If you were sick during an exam and got an F and failed doesn't suddenly make you a moron. Why do you think it's called "academic achievement" and not "intelligence level"? It's just a measure of satisfaction any of your teachers can tell you that.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 You couldn't even explain what intelligence is any better than what I have done so. If you were sick during an exam, you wouldn't get an F, you would merely retake it. If I was the stupidest person on earth, I would be getting the lowest grades; if I was the smartest person on earth, I would be getting the highest grades. Point proved. I don't expect you've gotten any awards in your entire life time if all you do is try to push other people down in society as if to make them feel stupid.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 You obviously don't understand how hypothetical statements work. By ignoring the reasoning in my hypothetical claim and instead attempting to circumvent the hypothetical situation, you've effectively committed the fallacy of "missing the point", which is that there's no direct correlation between good grades and intelligence.
If you were somehow unable to make it to the exam (regardless the condition) and got an F (in college you can't retake tests) that doesn't make you dumber
Zimx02 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 There's also no such thing as "common sense" in logic. That is a term that philistines like you to skew in order to give themselves false credentials. You've only demonstrated lack of logic and knowledge in this discussion, so there's really nothing that suggests that someone as painfully ignorant as you can do any better than me (someone established as competent in the field). Given your proved lack of education and yours is observably just another case of wishful thinking.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I never said anything about common sense in logic, I was just on about it in general; by this, I mean that all your points should just... not be there, especially if you had any common sense at all. I have not got a lack of education at all, and I have demonstrated that within my exams, proving you to be completely wrong. If I lacked in education, I wouldn't be beating you with every reply I make, because I'm absolutely sure that you're making stuff up, trying to make yourself seem smart
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 That's the thing, you're not beating me in any reply, you're just making ignorant claims and you want to believe you're right because you don't know any better. It's just like a kid trying to debate about physics against someone with a Ph.D. The kid doesn't have any understanding about physics other than his preconceived oversimplified notions, yet he's lead to believe that he's winning the debate he promptly replies his misconceptions and does not understand the doctor.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 No, definitely not. I know that I'm beating you because I, for one, actually know that I'm talking about. You just make your childish little remarks, thinking that they're proving a point, when you're actually embarrassing yourself in front of everyone.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Conversely, a person could hypothetically be very intelligent, yet put absolutely no effort in school, and therefore obtain Fs and Es in his grades. Despite his poor academic performance, he could understand the content of the classes far better than any of his classmates. This situation is very rare however. That is why psychologists and teachers all claim that "intelligence" is separate from academic achievement. Just ask any of your teachers, seriously.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Also, I'm a philosophy major (philosophy is heavily based on logic), so I think I know what I'm talking about. As evident by your ignorance of many of the terms I've used, it is clear that it is YOU who doesn't know or understand what I'm talking about. I should also mention that I've gotten As in all of my logic courses (whereas other people that I relate to your form of thinking have been struggling with the courses). You're severely out of your league.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 You don't have a clue as to the ways in which I think, so I wouldn't even bother going there, because I know you're just going to be wrong again. You, my boy, are socially dead. (Though it would actually be even better if you were physically dead too).
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 I do have a clue to the ways you think are, and as you've clearly demonstrated here it is "full of misconceptions, oversimplified, delusional and fallacious reasoning". You haven't even tried to excuse the fallacies you've committed (which I've pointed out), instead you ignore them and pretend they aren't there.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Socially dead? I spent the entire weekend with friends and attended a large party. I know what this is though. Your litte geek ass doesn't know anything and therefore in order to comfort himself and in attempt to make himself better he brings up something irrelevant. This, is called a red herring fallacy. Social life is irrelevant to logic as it is irrelevant to math and physics.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Besides, who are you to talk, little geek kid? Do you seriously consider socializing with your other autistic geek sonic teenage friends that of an achievement?
There's nothing for you to do here. You're just an uneducated kid that is trying to be special. You think you're proving something, but it's entirely counterproductive. You're just telling yourself otherwise because you're unable to handle the truth of your incompetence. If you don't understand logic, don't argue.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I'm tired, you bore me with your make-belief life. Go back to your worthless studies and stop trying to win an argument with a person that you don't stand a chance against.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Says the uneducated kid without a logic education that thinks he can argue with a logic student. Go back to your role-playing geek friends, retard.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I'm educated, I have education in logic, I can argue with you all I want, and I'm not a geek. Oh, I've just proven you wrong... four times!
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 If you have an education in logic, howcome you keep using logic terms such as "validity", "coherence", and "relevance" incorrectly? Why do you keep committing the same logical fallacies such as red herrings (ignoratio elenchi), straw mans, and ad hominems? If you have an education in logic, howcome you DON'T EVEN KNOW what these mean despite being taught in all introductory courses?
There's an obvious discrepancy between your claims and reality, and it's just funny.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 In no case have I used those terms incorrectly; you just don't want to admit that I'm correct, because as I've said before, you're just an arrogant, self-centred, heartless, lesser being. I've seen your channel, and I've also seen the many comments that reflect you negatively because of who you are; nobody likes you. You clearly don't understand that people have, and do, prove you wrong, yet you still believe everything you say is somehow more important and right than what anyoneelsesays
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 An ad hominem is not a rebuttal. Good job at proving me right.
I'm also glad you willingly associate yourself to the morons in my comments section. They're an inaccurate representation of the population, by the way. They're all morons like you. You're obviously neither a scientist nor a logician.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I never proved you right, so stop acting like such a dink to try and annoy me, because it's not working. There's only one moron here, and that's you; if you want, I could get a full list of people who agree with me on that.
Also, no, I'm not a scientist, and I wouldn't want to waste my time by being one, so just keep quiet. I'm quite happy for you to waste your life away by thinking you're making a difference to the world, when the only difference you are making is a bad one to yourself
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
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@DarklordDragon1 shut up you fucking idiot.
podeistakenistakenis 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 You seem to think there is some sort of "universal standard" of education and intelligence. The term "uneducated" is mostly used as a _relative_ term. IE, completing a basic education requirement (middleschool) _does_ give you a degree of education, but it does not make you adequately educated in a field. To put this in a way, you ( a middleschool student) are uneducated relative to me (a university physics and philosophy double major), especially in my fields.
Zimx02 5 months ago
@Zimx02 I'm not a middle-school student, but you sure do seem to fit the position, what with all your poorly constructed arguments and childish attitude towards this whole thing.
You... take philosophy? Oh goodness, I hope you know that you've practically failed it already. Oooh, but wait, you're also a "double major", I'm so intimidated. (That was sarcasm by the way, so don't take it too seriously). You cannot form coherent arguments, so you may as well just give up.
DarklordDragon1 5 months ago
@DarklordDragon1 Coherent arguments is part of basic deductive logic, and I passed that with flying colors. I don't even think you know what a coherent argument is.
Again, please stop talking about things you know nothing about. It's like having a little christian kid think he's smarter than Richard Dawkins.
Zimx02 5 months ago
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@DarklordDragon1 Oh, and for your question without a question mark... or
"Do you think that you're smart or something[,] because I can tell you now that you're [an] idiot."
Oh sure, thanks. I certainly trust the misinformed opinion of the autistic defensive kid that uses terms he doesn't understand, uses straw man fallacies, and tries to act condescending with broken English.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@itzAcosta which makes winning with hakan oh so worth it!
gardan06 6 months ago
Why should anybody go bitch about people thinking they're the worst, everyone got an opinion :) And I like hakan because of his:
Blue...hair?,
Red skin,
Cooking Oil,
Wife,
House,
Children,
Action Figures,
Mind...
joinmebowser9000 6 months ago
Hakan is weakest character?? HAHAHA Wildcat815 is beating almost everyone with Hakan.
rasne100 6 months ago
@rasne100 That just means that Wilcat815 is really good, not that Hakan is not the weakest. Hakan is the weakest character.
Zimx02 6 months ago
@Zimx02 NO! it means it's all about player.
rasne100 6 months ago
@rasne100 It's MOSTLY about the player, but given that all characters are different, one must inherently be better than the other one at something. It just happens that Hakan has the least advantages and the worst match-ups.
Zimx02 6 months ago
Why are both the top-rated comments from the same guy who sounds like an absolute imbecile? I mean, don't get me wrong, I understand his meaning and I overall agree (low-tier lovers should be modest and accepting, and not try to talk like they're gods if they can win with them, same in any game) but seriously, this guy sounds like a massive douche I wanna disagree with just to spite him.
koopakape 7 months ago 2
Nononononononononono his children will feast on your soul
llooyydd1997 8 months ago
But Hakan's wife is hot! Take that!
calveras86 8 months ago 4
Hakan sucks. >:)
soundscaper18 10 months ago
WUT NOW DAN IS NOT THE WORST CHARACTER IN THE GAME.
LegendaryMasterAZ 10 months ago
Hakan seriously sucks. Oil really? that's nasty. Sorry to say Hakan lovers but....RYU, KEN, AND AKUMA +GOUKEN ARE THE BEST
SonyDroid 10 months ago
@SonyDroid Dragon punch dick riders also suck, spam players
yaotzin44 10 months ago
@yaotzin44 Huh?
SonyDroid 10 months ago
@yaotzin44 dont tell that to the "Expert" players they will call you a scrub. Apparently spamming hadoukens and dragon punches is pro. Maybe pro but it sure is boring to watch.
terran236 9 months ago
@SonyDroid Ryu is cool, the rest are clones with slight modifications to their moves.
terran236 9 months ago
hakan ananızı siker ona göre
MrUltimaton 10 months ago
I wonder what was Daigo thinking when wildcat defeated his Ryu with Hakan
zzzzzz522002 11 months ago
@zzzzzz522002 That he wasn't familiar with the match-up. Doesn't change the fact that Hakan sucks.
gangster301 10 months ago
@zzzzzz522002
the same thing justing wong felt when he got beat by gamerbee's adon
judgmentdragon3000 10 months ago
suck hakans cock
HakeroTurkishBoy 1 year ago
yürü git lan. canpon piçi
proffubu2006 1 year ago
so much rage over a fictional video game character...
jstealth89 1 year ago
wildcat beat daigo
I mean, I'm just saying.
TheTaiyakiGuy 1 year ago
Oh well. I will agree with Daigo and Mago
Hakan is weak, but i mean, i play hakan some times, he is cool, interesting gameplay, but all his special moves are unsafe,also his super, to avoid it, just crouch.
And, IMO the reason why some hakans can win alot of matches is, like, ALMOST NOBODY uses Hakan, and even if its weak, knowing some little tricks of hakan, you can win a match becaus the other guy dosent know how to deal with it, lol
but, Yeah, Hakan is weak, sadly...
Bl3ckDark 1 year ago 6
they couldn,t decided between hakan and an martial arts clown as the last new character
sukashii84 1 year ago
that,s why daigo lose against hakan (wildcat815)
sukashii84 1 year ago
incorrect hakan is very good if u know how to use well , nfi players being interviewd
initialbilliard 1 year ago
Anyone know what they said before this? I get the impression they were talking about which characters are strong, anyone know if they had this convo and if so, who they mentioned?
gxcad 1 year ago
i'll just leave this here
watch?v=ER_W3NY7I20
macr85 1 year ago
with the new dlc coming up there going to patch hakan
yaktr12 1 year ago
They only fear Hakan, i used him many times and he´s VERY effective against Street Fighter noobs i mean shoto players, because if Hakan makes his oil shower and the fireballs go throught him the "pro´s" have to fight without fireballs. And then their ass get kicked by hakan. That shows that these players are WEAK just WEAK. I played 3 weeks ago Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD remix, and there was a player who plays only Zangief or Hawk. Guess what he was a pro without ryu, ken or sagay.
killersheaven82 1 year ago
I use Gen. Do you hate me?
toomanygoats 1 year ago
Oh jeeze, top Japanese players agree that Hakan is the "hardest character to use", and everyone thinks this is somehow controversial. If you like Hakan, just use him and prove he's a viable character, don't listen to all these punks saying high-level Hakans are a myth.
BloodSportA2 1 year ago
@BloodSportA2 his not hard to use he just has no good combos or good anti airs and etc so you can only stay good with him you can be a tourney player with him
yaktr12 1 year ago
@yaktr12 He's a gimmick grappler. He doesn't really have any big links, and his anti-air game mostly revolves around using his move-able focus (when oiled) and his oil dive (of course spacing that is tricky). Hakan is a hard character to use right now because the fight doesn't even start until he oils up, and yet the oil doesn't even stack. When the arcade patch comes to console, I expect we will see a lot more, regardless of Zell445Return's opinions.
BloodSportA2 1 year ago
Thumbs up you look at the comments on a youtube video and theres always an argument going on
P3RFCT1NSAN1TY 1 year ago
SSF4 TIER
1st: Chun-li and E.Honda -- 3rd: Dictator -- 4th: Guile -- 5th: Boxer -- 6th: Cammy -- 7th: Ryu -- 8th: Abel, Rufus, Sagat, and Seth -- 12th: Dhalsim, Akuma, and Fei Long -- 15th: Rose -- 16th: Blanka -- 17th: Ken and Zangief -- 19th: DeeJay -- 20th: Adon -- 21st: Ibuki and Vega -- 23rd: Cody, C.Viper and Fuerte -- 26th: Dudley -- 27th: Gouken -- 28th: T.Hawk -- 29th: Juri -- 30th: Sakura -- 31st: Guy -- 32nd: Gen -- 33rd: Dan -- 34th: Hakan -- 35th: Makoto
Source: Eventhubs (July '10)
buddhasknowbest 1 year ago
hakan's gay lover is hugo, thats why hakan carries oil because everytime he sees hugo he has to lube up for hugos massive meat pipe
xquickstrykex 1 year ago
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Does it matter what pros say anymore? J.Wong lost against an Adon player and he said that Adon is shit.
LastRambo341 1 year ago
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@LastRambo341 because jwong is fat und looks like rufus, thumps up
Valorios 1 year ago
Hakan's a unique character, but he's damn good in the right hands. There's B+ people who main Hakan and an evo player as well. He's not just for casual players. He's just very different, so a lot of people don't really try him out.
bmilsk99 1 year ago
I actually have great trouble against Hakan. Mostly because I can't react quickly enough to his oil slide to block it. Also, once he gets ultra 2, no more jump ins. Anyone have tips for stopping oil slide?
FlyThruDAir 1 year ago
Man i really thought they would say Makoto is the Weakest Character
I mean i love her but She really has a Hard Time against Ryu and Guile and Sagat
Zappafan1980 1 year ago
ALL characters have their advantages and disadvantages...hakan can be good if you know the combos, matchups, priorities, etc...you just gotta learn how to use him effectively
jdogg0908 1 year ago
this made me lol, i like the way they said Hakan at the same time
WarriorsAnonymous08 1 year ago
lol at u people if diago thinks the charcter is bad its more than bad its goota be a pretty bad chacrters
DrPepperPope 1 year ago
@0xkeNzo Thank u for translatin the japanese videos. I really wanted to know what are they discussing in those shows...
MrRyuMaster 1 year ago