NH: Fed checkpoint on I-93?

[beleafer81]

Oh no! Them Canadians are here again! They must be stopped! They have been flooding our towns, buying gas, food, lodging, and spending money in our malls and other tourist areas because the dollar is near parity. Screwing up their economy to help ours. Lets annoy the hell out of them and make them wish they stayed in canada playing hockey and eating poutine. That will teach them! Then they wont come back and our economy will continue to go down the drain.

GOOD IDEA!

[SubSlaveCD]

@beleafer81 Well, give those stupid Canadians some credit. There are only 35 million people in Canada. Studies show that 27 million Canadians come to the U.S. every year. THEY DO NO EVEN SUPPORT THEIR OWN ECONOMY! Let those stupid Canucks support ours! LMAO!

[beleafer81]

@SubSlaveCD keep in mind I am canadian and my comment was sarcastic in nature. But really everyone is looking for a deal. Thats why so many of us are cross border shopping. You can save 25% on average on just about anything compared to canada. So it makes for a great vacation or weekend trip.

[SubSlaveCD]

@beleafer81 O.K....but thanks for supporting our U.S. economy anyway. You Canadians DO NOT support your own economy...but, Canada is just a suburb of the U.S.A. and Canada would not survive if it wasn't for the U.S.A..

[beleafer81]

@SubSlaveCD man are you twisted or what? Did you know canada is the top supplier of oil to USA? and your best ally in the war in afganistan? I think we would survive just fine buddy. But I think the relationship is mutual, as in we help each other.

[SubSlaveCD]

@beleafer81 Perhaps Canada is the top supplier to the USA? Did you know that the USA could take over Canada within 24 hours if it wanted to? If the USA did that, then it would be America's oil. Again, Canada is NOTHING but a suburb of the United States of America. Also, did you know that majority of Canadians will be MUSLIMS by 2040?

[beleafer81]

@SubSlaveCD Yes no doubt. you sound like a bully. I am glad your opinions dont mean shit to your government.

[SubSlaveCD]

@beleafer81 I was in Montreal last month....it's all MUSLIMS!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[beleafer81]

@SubSlaveCD Also... I buy almost everything I have here at home. If you came in my home you would see all my big ticket items like tv, computer, furniture, appliances, not to mention my cars that are bought here in canada. Not to mention that I try to buy what I can at local mom and pop businesses in my comunity. I support my local economy. One or two trips a year to the US for a bit of recreation and buying a few clothes or other smaller items helps yours too, so why complain?

[elsquibbs]

This checkpoint has been there at this time of year for at least 3 years now.

[pattijim2005]

They have it again this year. Same spot. We drove through it today.

[RamboAlowishous]

you're not funny, you're a jerkoff.  This checkpoint stuff is no joke.

[donmei]

Hibraisil,

Yes, in America, you do NOT have to show ID if requested. (unless you are driving, as a conditon of driving)

In the future, tell the officer your name and town of residence. Thats it!!!

[hibraisil]

I got stopped at one of these years ago. They said it was in conjunction with Bike week because they were looking for gang members from Canada. It rubbed me the wrong way but I didn't know it was unconstitutional. Now I do.

[cln1921]

People would be more apt to follow this movement if you didn't portry yourself as such a goof. Get serious. It's serious business.

[ccssk8er123]

ya checkpoint is still there. just got home today and passed through it. fuckin bullshit. forgot my damn camera but we stood up and politely resisted. fuck them. after i kept saying am i being detained one said "would you like to me to PHYSICALLY detain you" LOL.

[donmei]

REMEMBER. You do not have to provide ID to law enforcement.

The driver needs to provide a drivers license as a condition of operating the vehicle.

But the rest of those in the car do not have to provide ID.

[diggingforgold]

See Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada. It was a recent (2004) ruling that found that police can require you to identify yourself without it infringing your rights- but it must be done in the course of a legitimate Terry stop (meaning there must be suspicion of a crime).

However, an older (1984) ruling of Kolender v. Lawson found that police cannot compel you to identify yourself by means of ID cards or papers.

So there is a middle ground, but with a lot of gray areas.

[donmei]

The courts have interpreted that to mean telling the officer your correct name.

Again, you do NOT have to provide ID if asked. You do have to identify yourself.

Conversely, they have to identify themselves if asked.

One thing that every salesman as well as every cop knows is that he who asks the questions, controls the conversation.

Answer a cops question with a question and enjoy the show.

[pigeonshouse]

Those dudes must get pissed off when interviewing Colin Mochrie or Ryan Stiles :P

PS I do take this seriously it's just that I imagined those two doing their 'Whose line is it anyway' sketch.

[HHODork]

this method of warning people needs to come a little quicker. How can we get warnings out real time? Or close to real time? I think the pork411 is a great way to warn people but if things like road blocks are reporting on a monday and we get the word on a tuesday then we need something sooner.

If they are long term check points should a large group of free staters show up and introduce Liberty to them?

[freestatereport]

sounds like the checkpointusa idea is coming to New Hampshire.

[reynoldsair]

I didn't know you spoke a little Japanese. Now there's an idea for a video. What can people do in Japan that's legal in the states and what is legal in the states that's not legal in Japan?

[JoelMatton]

In Japan you can buy beer in vending machines, but it's pretty much impossible for a private citizen to legally own a handgun.

[sirinferno]

On the flip side, it's pretty much impossible for a 'normal' person to come into a situation where you might need a handgun.

[JoelMatton]

I find that hard to believe. I'm sure burglary, rape, beatings and so on happen in Japan, and any other country in the world, often enough to warrant wanting to own a gun.

[sirinferno]

they're far rarer than in most other countries. japan in one of the few countries where i'd think that an increase in gun ownership would in fact be detrimental.

[diggingforgold]

Until, of course, they find their leader is a tyrant and they have no means to mount a resistance. Except perhaps sticks and stones.

The primary reason for our second amendment wasn't for hunters or personal protection. It was to keep the government under the will of "we the People". I think a lot of gun owners are hesitant to give this reason for the preservation of their right for fear that people will think they are terrorists or something. But it's the truth.

[sirinferno]

whilst it's very romantic to apply these notions of revolution to 1st world countries, it's really isn't applicable to japanese culture.

[RidleyReport]

ni hong go hah nah she mahs sin lol

[Liftidly]

what's that mean?

[reynoldsair]

日本語は話しませんーnihongo ha hanashimasen - (I) don't/won't speak Japanese.

That's an interesting question, though. What if Japanese were suddenly allowed to own guns? It seems like a reasonable argument that gun related violence would increase. Two years ago the mayor of Nagasaki was gunned down by yakuza (Japanese mob). I mention because in my four years here in Japan it's the only time I remember hearing about anyone being shot in Japan.

[reynoldsair]

Japanese seem to be much less violent than Americans. You don't walk through East Kansas City at 2:00AM. But you can walk through any part of Japan at any time and feel completely secure. Of course, violent crimes do happen but nowhere near the frequency as viewed on American nightly news. There must be some deep philosophical, cultural difference.

[RidleyReport]

Another call came in tonight 7pm 5/23 saturday....

Confirming there is still a checkpoint...the caller says it's mile marker 95, which may or may not be the same spot. Both callers are apparently people unknown to me. Which means the movement is still spreading with some haste.

[cycimian]

Papers Pleasze? With all the Lers and Nerz in Goverment rings a hint of Evil all over again.

[803honda]

the "patriot act" allows them to set up "security checkpoints" so many miles within the US border and coastline

[Pafoofnik1]

I've heard this "Patriot Act" reasoning but no one has ever been able to back it up with a cite to a specific law.

Have you seen the actual statute that allows checkpoints? If so, I'd sure like to see it.

[803honda]

I havent seen it myself. that things over 1000 pages. not many folks got time to read it.

[Pafoofnik1]

So it;s probable then that the Patriot Act does not have a law allowing security checkpoints. If it did, then someone probably would have cited it by now.

[NHCheckpointguy]

Pafoofnik1, it wasn't a security checkpoint it was an immigration checkpoint. They get the authority to set up checkpoints for Immigration purposes from a decision made by the Supreme Court. "United States V. Martinez-Fuerte." It was heard in 1976. Look it up on Wikipedia.

[Pafoofnik1]

I am familiar with Fuerte. The point I was making is that some people drag out the Patriot Act as a reason for lots of government actions; Actions that the Act doesn't even address.

BTW: Fuerte only covers permanent checkpoints. According to the description, this is a temporary checkpoint. Fuerte explicitly states that its decisions ONLY cover permanent checkpoints.

[NHCheckpointguy]

"Permanent or fixed" is the way it is listed. The "tactical immigration checkpoints" such as the one on I-93 are considered "fixed" checkpoints.

[callieland]

and btw, i am a former marine, clean cut and neatly attired. the reason for the search is manufactured at the whim of the officer. i have noticed a pattern where the older cops seem to think its stupid to hassle people for no reason as i can tell by facial expression and body language, however the younger cops LOVE this un-constitutional violation and often attempt to escalate and bait me. sad, stupid and un-american.

[callieland]

i do this for all of us.

[callieland]

every single one of you needs to pay the temporary price to resist these warrantless checkpoints and warrantless vehicle searches. in the last 3 months i have been pulled over thrice for minor traffic infractions and it ALWAYS evolves into a request to search my vehicle. i ALWAYS politely decline. where i live this will complicate your life because the cops will then summon the drug dog. i will be cuffed and placed in the back of a squad car for an hour waiting for k-9 arrival while cops chat.

[harryogre]

well said.

More people need to politly resist.

[Pafoofnik1]

If they have to call for a dog, then law enforcement generally cannot detain you for longer than it takes to conduct a traffic stop without a search. While there is no hard rule, courts generally consider that to be around 20 minutes.

But you have to start the timer by asking if you are "being detained". If not, then it may be held that you agreed to the long wait.

[SubSlaveCD]

@callieland WOW! Really? Just read your post. Hmmmmm.....So, do you think this is the kinds of "freedoms" are U.S. troops are fighting and dying for overseas? LMAO!

[JosiahsBackpack]

Border patrol in NH. Wow! Didn't know that many Canadians were seeking into American.

Could it possibly be to get us use to random stop and searches?

[SimpleDan76]

Exactly what it's about.

[lehman]

look up "Constitution Free Zone"

[harryogre]

Stinking Canadians commin' down here takin' all our roofin' jobs!

Speakin' French and what-not!

8~)