the only real hope we have is to run out of dirty fuels before we poison ourselves to extinction.
you think the most powerful country in the world cares? republicans in 2011 filibustered the american senate to subsidize the most profitable companies in human history. oil companies. and they're trying to defund environmental protections simultaneously.
greed, profit, and biblical nihilism seem to have divine providence in america.
@MsGreenLight07 No, my friend, forever and a day, always, has technology far outdistanced our sociology and spirituality, . . . get a grip, Pal, . . .
@MsZeitgeist85 For me, PO occurred 5 years ago, . . . when I went full time bicycle. Since then, I've spent <$50 on fuel; and, I've made other changes.
This harum scarum presentation of PO appears not to correctly address any usable topic, say, obesity, indolence, etc.; the great problems have to do with the faulty ways in which a lazy people attempts to think.
While oil is simply a static idea, our ideas need not be static, hence, we can control. "Now, nothing which they have imagined to do
@phillipgaley I live in San Francisco and I walk 5 miles to and from work a day so I don't have to spend much on fuel.I heard that MK Hubbard who was right about predicting US Peak in 1970 said the world would peak between 2005 and 2013.Have you heard of Willits California? I have relitives there and it is a small town in Northern California that is about to be off the grid and generate its own energy. I have family there and this is supposto be one of the best areas to handle Peak Oil.
@MsZeitgeist85 For the reason that, the world is composed—not of amorphous mass of humanity, but—of individuals, what we do as individuals, is the only thing which really matters.
A woman alone, walking, I do hope that, you take proper precaution.
Because people just love to predicate—the weather, etc.—always, I grant a heavy discount to prognostications; and for an example at hand, suppose there was an invasive war here, would you suppose there to be quite a few deaths, and so much so that,
and so much so that, property prices should drop to 1/10? The PO discussions wouldn't be quite so interesting, either—would they? So, as something external, not only for war, more also, for the powers of our minds in what we can do to do something else, I believe PO to be a quite a bright red herring and fashioned out of just a few of the possible pieces which, in considerations of a larger puzzle, will be of much greater concern; in a word, it's so very much like Chicken Little's: "The sky is
@phillipgaley You don't think this is an issue even though the planet uses a billion barrles every 11 days? This is also growing as more people in India and China buy more cars.
@MsZeitgeist85 Those two puzzle pieces, seeable in the here and now, one, external—war—and one, internal—what we imagine to do, the unearthly power of creative realization; now, one from history and sociology: the Malthusian compromise, or, what people can be persuaded to do in satisfaction of Malthus' end-of-the-world starvation scenario, while still staying alive. No, Dear, learn to recognize Chicken Little, and call him such: "That sounds so much like a Chicken Little argument.".
You know how children love the hide and jump out and scarum games—that was not left behind at age 21; and it remains to be factored in. You wanna thrill of how you avoided disaster? Just look at the Fukushima situation, the while, you're sitting almost on top of the San Andreas fault, but yet, you wanna talk about PO. How 'bout if you followed common sense, or, are you just gonna sit there until the quake hits.
How 'bout if you ask yourself: "Could I be happy someplace away from the San And
@phillipgaley Yes I have though about that. There are 3 Nukes in CA and I read that the San Andres Fault couldn't sustain a quake bigger than an 8.0 the area I live is still dangerous.
I am hoping that we get enough wind and solar so we will be able to shut down these plants like Germany is trying to do now.
@MsZeitgeist85 "be able to shut down these plants"? Dear child, that's a long, long ways off—how about if you begin makin' some sense? Leave whoever is gonna collect the sunlight, to do so, . . . and wish 'em all the best; and if you still want to fret over PO, you can do that at any distance from the greater danger.
Me? Now that, I've moved away from PDX, I've become convinced of having several weeks of water and food and soap and portable cooking stove, and so forth—just makes sense, . . .
@MsZeitgeist85 As against the catastrophe which a breached nuc plant is, maybe yes, maybe no; but however that might be, for that city's record of quakes and for it's proximity to the fault line, and on account of the recent "activity" on the Ring Of Fire, those things which you make mention of, are unpersuasive so far as my sense of safety guides me—not for quakes alone, nor for war and the things which are attendant to it, e.g., economic collapse or other source of societal breakdown, . . .
JESUS said that, towards the end, there would be an increase in famines and earthquakes—right? And, every one senses that, something is bound to happen, the only questions remaining, being, when and how bad—right? From my present perspective, when "it" does occur, I see myself, somewhere in the vast expanse of Oklahoma, hoping that, the coastal dwellers survived; and perhaps, opening myself a bottle of sipping water—cool and clear, . . .
While, the 20 million barrels a day type arguments are mere "mass of humanity" arguments—which can sound quite OK, when you've got a half a bottle of wine, down—anyone of sound mind knows that, the only way to change anything real, is to change the thoughts which individuals broadcast—okay? Individuals, do something for your SELF—for example, me? I'd be on the next train outta Dodge—know what I'm sayin'? San Fran is beside the point; the San Andreas is the poin
@AthenasConquest Are you talking about oil used to make electricity of oil used to make fuel? Oil provides only 1% of our electricity so that isn't signifigant. Oil refinery capacity is only one of the supply problems, there was actually a refinery surplus in the 80s and 90s but many of them were shut down so companys could save money. There are many reasons there haven't been any new refinerys since 1976 but the biggest is cost.
@AthenasConquest Another thing to note is that if you are concerened about supply like I am the non conventional sources of oil like Tar Sands, Coal Liquification, Shale Oil, and Ethanol will never replace conventional oil in any combination due to Net Energy and low production.
@MsZeitgeist85 Sideline note: If one doesn't know much about 'fracking' you'll find law suit after suit in 40 different states due to poisoning of water, towns and people. I mean some 'bad ass shit' that goes into fracking procedure. Google 'your state/fracking or any state' etc. HBO Gasland is a mind blower, as people are fried, of course w/out apology, and kitchen sink water 'lights from a match'. I worked for Halliburton crooks and liars...some on my site to the left. BEST TO YA FRIEND...
@MrClaydough There is a lot more to it than that. The Gas compays hired a PR firm to discredit the movie Gasland and since then the creator Josh Fox has made a rubuttal on the Gasland website to their claims.
@MsZeitgeist85 Thanx for info. I find if one googles 'Fracking Law Suits ' Montana, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Texas, Calif....on and on, good info. So there's gas where mother nature placed it? Lets poison and pollute our Gods given gift to extract it so a handful of 'Kock Bros' type bastards get rewards as they pay lawmakers to jail poor folks and set destroyers of nature free. Fu!#$ em...I say. Best to my good friend. OWS forever!
@MrClaydough Lawsuits in California? I live here and why would they be fracking here California doesn't have any shale basins. Unless they were frack drilling by Calistoga or by Bakersfield where the oil is.
@MsZeitgeist85 Yeppers...it's there, and so are the contaminants and state legislatures introducing reg's etc. In fact Calli has plenty to read on subject matter. I just change the name of the state and theres more fraqcking, law suits and gov't involvement, as they're polluting the shit out of our water tables. I'll check new vid...thanx friend.
I challenge anyone to drive to Gillette Wyo, turn the tap on and drink it! Yum yum...hell, you can't wash your clothes in it!
@AthenasCrankguest Yeah....try drinking a nice 'warm toddy', hope it goes down nice and smoothe. Have an extra one for me moron. Just make sure it's from the well that's next to grandmas house and has the funny 'skull n bones' sign. It's okay...this girl dances kinda funny too. heh heh
@AthenasCuntswet heh heh Dumbshit didn't watch the vid. Fucking Teatard for ya....flmao at gooberette racist twit. Morons like this bitch figure Jesus will come sooner if we do stupid things but yet act holier than thou. Typical KKK racist bitch....Sorry, ususally ladies get a bit of a freer pass. Not this one. She's a stank skank. heh heh
@AthenasConquest Tell that to the people in Denmark that are doing better than we are with far less CO2 emmissions. I don't think you or UTKook even know what peak oil is. Peak Oil is not running out of oil it is running out of easy to access oil. That punk couldn't refute a ham sandwich calling itself turkey.
@MsZeitgeist85 In California we drill for oil off shore in Los Angeles,Ventura and Santa Barbara counties. On shore where ever oil is at. Than the oil is refined locally in Carson. My SUV that was made in the United States by non union workers. I'm proud my SUV is a non union product burns petroleum products.Until the wind mill car is perfected oil is the way to go.
@Athenas'CON'twit Yeah we know Mz Gooberette. Some of us actually swam in that locale/part of the ocean back in 50's b4 'big biz' got to it and destroyed it. Just as the Salton Sea and the Allegeheny, the Pacific/Atlantic was so clean you could see your feet at the bottom. Again make urself a few hot toddies, go swim with the Dolphins, if you can find one but when you do....just like here....keep your mouth open will ya?
@MsZeitgeist85 I think AthenasConQuack should set her ass up to the sink, let one go, light a match, and leave her Witch Hat on her head, while she shoots around the room. Kids would get a kick out of that.
now i can do my research paper without borrowing the movie
destinychild3056 2 months ago
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MsZeitgeist85 8 months ago
this movie scared the piss out of me
Wolfboy183 9 months ago
the only real hope we have is to run out of dirty fuels before we poison ourselves to extinction.
you think the most powerful country in the world cares? republicans in 2011 filibustered the american senate to subsidize the most profitable companies in human history. oil companies. and they're trying to defund environmental protections simultaneously.
greed, profit, and biblical nihilism seem to have divine providence in america.
tomitstube 9 months ago
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Oh, good-golly-miss-molly! this presentation is so comical, . . . I just love! it, . . . thanks, YT, . . . thanks, so much, . . .
phillipgaley 11 months ago
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phillipgaley 11 months ago
We need better technology and I mean NOW!!!!
MsGreenLight07 11 months ago
@MsGreenLight07 No, my friend, forever and a day, always, has technology far outdistanced our sociology and spirituality, . . . get a grip, Pal, . . .
phillipgaley 11 months ago
Excellent upload. Valeu!
classicallady 1 year ago
woah, did anyone see that nigger in the class with a bunch of white kids? dats funny!
JUKIO01 1 year ago
Great Documentary. Thanks for posting this.
MsZeitgeist85 1 year ago
@MsZeitgeist85 Yeah, this is one of my favorites!
Thanks!
TheCognoscereNew 1 year ago
@MsZeitgeist85 For me, PO occurred 5 years ago, . . . when I went full time bicycle. Since then, I've spent <$50 on fuel; and, I've made other changes.
This harum scarum presentation of PO appears not to correctly address any usable topic, say, obesity, indolence, etc.; the great problems have to do with the faulty ways in which a lazy people attempts to think.
While oil is simply a static idea, our ideas need not be static, hence, we can control. "Now, nothing which they have imagined to do
phillipgaley 11 months ago
@phillipgaley ". . . . which they have imagined to do shall be withheld them." — The Book of Genesis, chapter 11, verse 6.
Take your pick, but to me, very many of this video's pronouncements are so funny as to be absolute screams, . . .
Have a sweet day, . . .
phillipgaley 11 months ago
@phillipgaley I live in San Francisco and I walk 5 miles to and from work a day so I don't have to spend much on fuel.I heard that MK Hubbard who was right about predicting US Peak in 1970 said the world would peak between 2005 and 2013.Have you heard of Willits California? I have relitives there and it is a small town in Northern California that is about to be off the grid and generate its own energy. I have family there and this is supposto be one of the best areas to handle Peak Oil.
MsZeitgeist85 11 months ago
@MsZeitgeist85 For the reason that, the world is composed—not of amorphous mass of humanity, but—of individuals, what we do as individuals, is the only thing which really matters.
A woman alone, walking, I do hope that, you take proper precaution.
Because people just love to predicate—the weather, etc.—always, I grant a heavy discount to prognostications; and for an example at hand, suppose there was an invasive war here, would you suppose there to be quite a few deaths, and so much so that,
phillipgaley 11 months ago
and so much so that, property prices should drop to 1/10? The PO discussions wouldn't be quite so interesting, either—would they? So, as something external, not only for war, more also, for the powers of our minds in what we can do to do something else, I believe PO to be a quite a bright red herring and fashioned out of just a few of the possible pieces which, in considerations of a larger puzzle, will be of much greater concern; in a word, it's so very much like Chicken Little's: "The sky is
phillipgaley 11 months ago
@phillipgaley You don't think this is an issue even though the planet uses a billion barrles every 11 days? This is also growing as more people in India and China buy more cars.
MsZeitgeist85 11 months ago
@MsZeitgeist85 Those two puzzle pieces, seeable in the here and now, one, external—war—and one, internal—what we imagine to do, the unearthly power of creative realization; now, one from history and sociology: the Malthusian compromise, or, what people can be persuaded to do in satisfaction of Malthus' end-of-the-world starvation scenario, while still staying alive. No, Dear, learn to recognize Chicken Little, and call him such: "That sounds so much like a Chicken Little argument.".
phillipgaley 11 months ago
You know how children love the hide and jump out and scarum games—that was not left behind at age 21; and it remains to be factored in. You wanna thrill of how you avoided disaster? Just look at the Fukushima situation, the while, you're sitting almost on top of the San Andreas fault, but yet, you wanna talk about PO. How 'bout if you followed common sense, or, are you just gonna sit there until the quake hits.
How 'bout if you ask yourself: "Could I be happy someplace away from the San And
phillipgaley 11 months ago
@phillipgaley Yes I have though about that. There are 3 Nukes in CA and I read that the San Andres Fault couldn't sustain a quake bigger than an 8.0 the area I live is still dangerous.
I am hoping that we get enough wind and solar so we will be able to shut down these plants like Germany is trying to do now.
MsZeitgeist85 11 months ago
@MsZeitgeist85 "be able to shut down these plants"? Dear child, that's a long, long ways off—how about if you begin makin' some sense? Leave whoever is gonna collect the sunlight, to do so, . . . and wish 'em all the best; and if you still want to fret over PO, you can do that at any distance from the greater danger.
Me? Now that, I've moved away from PDX, I've become convinced of having several weeks of water and food and soap and portable cooking stove, and so forth—just makes sense, . . .
phillipgaley 11 months ago
@phillipgaley We have 3500 MW of wind energy and another 4000 being built. That is enough for 3 nuclear plants.
MsZeitgeist85 11 months ago
@MsZeitgeist85 As against the catastrophe which a breached nuc plant is, maybe yes, maybe no; but however that might be, for that city's record of quakes and for it's proximity to the fault line, and on account of the recent "activity" on the Ring Of Fire, those things which you make mention of, are unpersuasive so far as my sense of safety guides me—not for quakes alone, nor for war and the things which are attendant to it, e.g., economic collapse or other source of societal breakdown, . . .
phillipgaley 11 months ago
JESUS said that, towards the end, there would be an increase in famines and earthquakes—right? And, every one senses that, something is bound to happen, the only questions remaining, being, when and how bad—right? From my present perspective, when "it" does occur, I see myself, somewhere in the vast expanse of Oklahoma, hoping that, the coastal dwellers survived; and perhaps, opening myself a bottle of sipping water—cool and clear, . . .
phillipgaley 11 months ago
from the San Andreas fault?".
While, the 20 million barrels a day type arguments are mere "mass of humanity" arguments—which can sound quite OK, when you've got a half a bottle of wine, down—anyone of sound mind knows that, the only way to change anything real, is to change the thoughts which individuals broadcast—okay? Individuals, do something for your SELF—for example, me? I'd be on the next train outta Dodge—know what I'm sayin'? San Fran is beside the point; the San Andreas is the poin
phillipgaley 11 months ago
@MsZeitgeist85 We have a supply problem.Oil looks safer than Japanese nuclear power. We need more refinery's that would create jobs
AthenasConquest 10 months ago
@AthenasConquest Are you talking about oil used to make electricity of oil used to make fuel? Oil provides only 1% of our electricity so that isn't signifigant. Oil refinery capacity is only one of the supply problems, there was actually a refinery surplus in the 80s and 90s but many of them were shut down so companys could save money. There are many reasons there haven't been any new refinerys since 1976 but the biggest is cost.
MsZeitgeist85 9 months ago
@MsZeitgeist85 The electric cars get power from coal. Toyota's pries is a coal powered car.
AthenasConquest 4 months ago
@AthenasConquest Another thing to note is that if you are concerened about supply like I am the non conventional sources of oil like Tar Sands, Coal Liquification, Shale Oil, and Ethanol will never replace conventional oil in any combination due to Net Energy and low production.
MsZeitgeist85 9 months ago
@MsZeitgeist85 Sideline note: If one doesn't know much about 'fracking' you'll find law suit after suit in 40 different states due to poisoning of water, towns and people. I mean some 'bad ass shit' that goes into fracking procedure. Google 'your state/fracking or any state' etc. HBO Gasland is a mind blower, as people are fried, of course w/out apology, and kitchen sink water 'lights from a match'. I worked for Halliburton crooks and liars...some on my site to the left. BEST TO YA FRIEND...
MrClaydough 4 months ago
@MrClaydough There is a lot more to it than that. The Gas compays hired a PR firm to discredit the movie Gasland and since then the creator Josh Fox has made a rubuttal on the Gasland website to their claims.
France and Australia have recently ban fracking.
MsZeitgeist85 3 months ago
@MsZeitgeist85 Thanx for info. I find if one googles 'Fracking Law Suits ' Montana, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Texas, Calif....on and on, good info. So there's gas where mother nature placed it? Lets poison and pollute our Gods given gift to extract it so a handful of 'Kock Bros' type bastards get rewards as they pay lawmakers to jail poor folks and set destroyers of nature free. Fu!#$ em...I say. Best to my good friend. OWS forever!
MrClaydough 3 months ago
@MrClaydough Lawsuits in California? I live here and why would they be fracking here California doesn't have any shale basins. Unless they were frack drilling by Calistoga or by Bakersfield where the oil is.
This is new to me.
MsZeitgeist85 3 months ago
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@MsZeitgeist85 Yeppers...it's there, and so are the contaminants and state legislatures introducing reg's etc. In fact Calli has plenty to read on subject matter. I just change the name of the state and theres more fraqcking, law suits and gov't involvement, as they're polluting the shit out of our water tables. I'll check new vid...thanx friend.
I challenge anyone to drive to Gillette Wyo, turn the tap on and drink it! Yum yum...hell, you can't wash your clothes in it!
MrClaydough 3 months ago
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@MrClaydough [fracking]
MrClaydough 3 months ago
@MrClaydough I just sent you another interesting doc on the oil companys.
MsZeitgeist85 3 months ago
@MrClaydough North Dakota escaped Hussein's economic Obamaville by fracking unemployment less than 5%
AthenasConquest 1 month ago
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@AthenasCrankguest Yeah....try drinking a nice 'warm toddy', hope it goes down nice and smoothe. Have an extra one for me moron. Just make sure it's from the well that's next to grandmas house and has the funny 'skull n bones' sign. It's okay...this girl dances kinda funny too. heh heh
MrClaydough 1 month ago
@AthenasConquest Gas fracking it is so good that Australia and France outlawed it because they don't like flammable tap water.
MsZeitgeist85 1 month ago
@AthenasCuntswet heh heh Dumbshit didn't watch the vid. Fucking Teatard for ya....flmao at gooberette racist twit. Morons like this bitch figure Jesus will come sooner if we do stupid things but yet act holier than thou. Typical KKK racist bitch....Sorry, ususally ladies get a bit of a freer pass. Not this one. She's a stank skank. heh heh
MrClaydough 4 months ago
@MsZeitgeist85 What a glorious time we live in. Burning oil sure beats a beast pulling your rickshaw.
AthenasConquest 1 month ago
@AthenasConquest Tell that to the people in Denmark that are doing better than we are with far less CO2 emmissions. I don't think you or UTKook even know what peak oil is. Peak Oil is not running out of oil it is running out of easy to access oil. That punk couldn't refute a ham sandwich calling itself turkey.
MsZeitgeist85 1 month ago
@MsZeitgeist85 In California we drill for oil off shore in Los Angeles,Ventura and Santa Barbara counties. On shore where ever oil is at. Than the oil is refined locally in Carson. My SUV that was made in the United States by non union workers. I'm proud my SUV is a non union product burns petroleum products.Until the wind mill car is perfected oil is the way to go.
AthenasConquest 1 month ago
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@Athenas'CON'twit Yeah we know Mz Gooberette. Some of us actually swam in that locale/part of the ocean back in 50's b4 'big biz' got to it and destroyed it. Just as the Salton Sea and the Allegeheny, the Pacific/Atlantic was so clean you could see your feet at the bottom. Again make urself a few hot toddies, go swim with the Dolphins, if you can find one but when you do....just like here....keep your mouth open will ya?
MrClaydough 1 month ago
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@MsZeitgeist85 I think AthenasConQuack should set her ass up to the sink, let one go, light a match, and leave her Witch Hat on her head, while she shoots around the room. Kids would get a kick out of that.
MrClaydough 1 month ago
truely one of the best documentaries i've ever seen
anttresor 1 year ago
@anttresor thanks. I think this is the one of my best posts here. Gretings from Brasil! : )
TheCognoscereNew 1 year ago