So far from what I can tell: this scene is taking place between Birth by sleep and KH I. Xemnas had already banished ansem, and destroyed all of his apprentices turning them into nobodies founding Org. XIII. They are given missions to look for more members (Marluxia, Larxene etc.) and Lea and Isa have probably become nobodies aswell considering they hung around that castle. But one thing is did he ever find the other room? The one where Ven sleeps.
He's in Radiant Garden here, and we've seen nothing of them finding Ven, so I'd assume no. And, in 358, I remember a secret report from Marluxia saying there was a room they knew existed, but couldn't find, much less enter. That'd be Ven's chamber.
@axelelelelel Not Really Because if terra Lost his heart to Darkness And became one with xehanort Xehanort Might Be the Young version Instead Of the Old one Besides even if terra's heart became free where would his Heart Go if He lost his body
am I the only one who thinks an elevator with Aqua's theme would've been better.
Yes. The armor belongs to Aqua. Who should be in Kingdom Hearts 3, if she learnt how to open a coridor of darkness and got an Org XIII cloak from Ansem the wise.
yes. the cool man in the secret ending of BBS was Ansem.
And,though this is my opinion, Ansem SoD was Xehanort(old and bawld)'s side of Terranort. Xemnas is Terra's side. That is probably not true though.
@soulwolf2010 I agree. I think that when the young Xehanort went into the darkness, the "fused" parts of Terra and the old Xehanort got split up. The Heartless looks more like Xehanort and behaves a lot more like him, while Xemnas looks more like Terra and seems to have some of his memories.
At first when I saw this scene, I knew that was Aqua's armor, but I didn't know the end to BBS, so I was disgusted that he was talking to the armor like that. Now that I know the truth, it kinda makes me want to curl up in a ball and cry.
Xehanort takes over terra, aqau fights terranort and i cant really explain that part, but theres still terra in the new xehanort right? Xehanort=ansem and Xemnas
Xemnas being xehanorts(and terrra im guessing) nobody is calling the armor an freind because that was aqau'a armor. Its terra knowing this, so that would mean Terrra is a big key clue?
i dont think hes talking to Aqua i think hes really talking to Vanitas through her armor i know it sounds crazy but for some weird reason i cant shake i feel as if Vanitas is still alive somehow like some left over energy i think hes going to take over Sora and or Sora might call upon his help at sometime and help him win against someone he cant beat on his own im not sure on this yet but it makes sense
@2010gaje i said left over energy and he could still be alive within that armor and or sora then he might try to take over sora in a attempt to return and we dont know if hes really truly dead he was darkness and quoting Xehanort "Darkness Cannot Be Destroyed It Can Only Be Channeled"
@Puresupremedarknesss lols, did you read xehanort reports, vanitas is a pure negativity FROM ventus, as since ventus heart is now broken, thers like 0% his alive, i think well find out in Birth by Sleep 2 or KH3,anyway thers choices here you could guest from
i just beat the extra episode in BBS and it makes this scene pretty sad....he doesn't know why he's calling the armor his friend since he only has traces of Terra's feelings...although i do find it strange that (supposedly) the armor talks back
@losthaze Xemnas does know why... he's knows the armor belongs to Aqua! That's why he had Axel search Castle Oblivion for Ventus... but obviously only Aqua can locate his sleeping body :)
@murcielagogt81 But the Room of Awakening is something that only Aqua should know. In fact, Xemnas shouldn't even be aware that Castle Oblivion was once the LoD, because ALL of that is information that Aqua became privy to when she was granted the title of keyblade master. And the fact that Xemnas is frantically searching for the Room of Awakening to supposedly find Ven insinuates that he knows everything that Aqua knows - except how to get to the Room of Awakening. And he shouldn't.
Er... well. i kinda thought his voice was a bit different...but i cant really say why he would have Ansem's voice flashback...I kinda disregarded that...
OK, so it's Xemnas. But the MF is still Ven's Nobody in my opinion.
I'll try to refrain from randomly making guesses. ^v^'
Listen, Kingdom Hearts is a majority of hosh-panosh, and only most of it will probably be explained when Kingdom Hearts 3D comes out. For all we know, it could be MF.
BTW, if you have a MF theory, let me know. I'm interested in what mockery-of-a-bull-shit theory you'll come up with.
@xDartuzax *facepalm* I LOL when I see idiots like you making stupid conclusions and I see them a lot. Its Xemnas and when he reffered to armor as ''his friend'' he didnt mean like a friend friend. You know villains can use it in contex( call their enemies a friend but not mean it) >.> . He just ment by that '' Its been a long time, my friend'' meaning its been a long time we fought and he didn't mean actually as a friend he hates her
@kogajebe100 Not only that, but Xemnas is TECHNICALLY part Terra, so it could be referring to either meaning. Yeah, but some of these people really do have stupid theories.
@MrMasterMrDoom well....you see now terranort is still alive, ''ansem'' and ''xemnas'' are MX's heartless and nobody so I don't think they have a part of terra in them.. I'm still trying to figure where could terranort (xehanort in terra's body) be because he sure didn't look like he was in radiant garden. But I think he started looking for Land of Departure even tho he doesnt remember much And people do have stupid theories I'm just glad I basicly made a theory about bbs which was 80%true b.r.
@kogajebe100 That's why I put technically in caps. But they're not Master Xehanort's Heartless and Nobody; they're Xehanort (Terra-Xehanort)'s Heartless and Nobody. So Xemnas is technically the Nobody of the combination between Master Xehanort and Terra... Or something like that anyway... God, why do these games have to be so confusing? But they're some of the best on the planet, so that doesn't matter a bit.
@xDartuzax No offense, but you people need to get your facts straight. Mysterious Figure is not ven. It cannot be Ven as you can fight against him with Ven, Terra and Aqua. The trailer showed Aqua fighting him which threw me off too but i know you can fight him with all three because i have done it.
@TheHolyheadshot Well, strictly speaking nobody was actually fighting him. Aqua is in the realm of darkness, Terra was possessed by Xehanort and Ven lost his heart. So in reality, they never fight him. It kinda has a secret ending feel, where everybody says "Sora", when almost everybody (except Aqua) are not able to do so.
You are not as strong as you think, Xemnas. Being Xehanort AND Terra's Nobody has made you weak. The light in his heart and his devotion to Ven and Aqua has creating a longing for an emotional connection even if you are a Nobody.
Dude that spiral corridor scene was taken almost completely from the Temple of Bevelle in FFX! Unfortunately, they didn't take that machina elevator that took you all the way to the bottom.
i dont think hes talking to Aqua i think hes really talking to Vanitas through her armor i know it sounds crazy but for some weird reason i cant shake i feel as if Vanitas is still alive somehow like some left over energy i think hes going to take over Sora and or Sora might call upon his help at sometime and help him win against someone he cant beat on his own im not sure on this yet but it makes sense
@Shonbi xehanort took his heart and forced on terra and xehanort body faded away like instantly and terra's armor was still working and attaked him well just look it up
Isn't it funny how all the nobody's names are just their human form's name except scrambled but with an X? Example: Roxas is just Sora with an X. Xemnas is Ansem with an X.
@bankaiXzangetsu you`re rigth. i count the letters and yes, the password is ansem`s six apprentices. first xehanort, second even (vexen); third, fourth and five can be braig (xigbar), ienzo (zexion) and dilan (xaldin), and the sixth is aeleus (lexaeus).
Terra and Master Xehanort... Xehanort shoved his heart into Terra, taking him over.
And then there's Xemnas, who doesn't have neither Terra's nor Xehanort's heart. Made purely of body and soul, he still has Xehanort's ambitions but the part of Terra still in him wants to find his old friends. He knows the Chamber of Waking, where Ventus sleeps, is in Castle Oblivion, but he can't find it. The only one who can... well her armor and Keyblade lie on the floor in the Chamber of Repose.
@2RandomGirls There's something else I realized. You know how Sora and Xehanort had such unique Heartless and Nobodies?
It might be because both Sora and Xehanort had two hearts in their bodies. Sora and Ventus > Roxas, Terra and Master Xehanort > Xemnas. The Nobodies created became mixtures of the two.
@Aqua311 But then what about the Xehanort you fight at the end of KH? Whose nobody is he, or wait; is he even a nobody? But if he's not a nobody, how does his nobody, Xemnas, exist at the same time as him? I haven't bought any of the KH games since KH2, so I'm a little lost.
@2RandomGirls That Xehanort at the end of the first game, Ansem Seeker of Darkness as he calls himself, is the Heartless of Xehanort, Ansem the Wise's apprentice, who had lost his memory after a battle with Aqua. The only memory he had was his name.
When a heart is consumed by darkness, it becomes a Heartless. The body, the shell, left behind becomes a Nobody. Nobodies who had strong hearts keep their souls and their human forms, becoming members of the Organization. No more room to explain.
@Aqua311 But the Xehanort that was apprenticed to Ansem is Master Xehanort who took over Terra's heart. Well, isn't he? Because the Master and Terra fought each other over Terra's body. Once the new Xehanort's heart was consumed by darkness, he split into Ansem and Xemnas. Ansem being the ehartless and Xemnas being the nobody. And i have a question about Ventus and Sora. Didn't Ven combine with Sora when he was a kid? And wouldn't that technically mean that Ven=Roxas because Ven was inside Sora?
@TheBrendude The apprentice Xehanort lost his memory, with the exception of his name. Yes he is Terra who has been taken over by the Master but he no longer recalls anything. He also lost the ability to wield the Keyblade. As for Ven, Sora and Roxas. When Sora was born, his heart helped fill the part that Ven lost when Vanitas was created. Their hearts were connected and Sora resembles Ven as a result. Roxas looks like Ven but he's Sora's Nobody. His Keyblade, his skills, some memories.
@TheBrendude I heard that Vanitas looks like Sora because of the connection Ven's heart made with Sora. Remember that Vanitas is a part of Ven. You would have to look him up on the KH wikia to find out more.
@Legomakerx Wait!I meant to say Terra! Yeah. In the final episode when you finnish of Terranort, he seeps into darkness after Xehanort tries to eradiate Terr'as Heart with his Key. Aqua jumps in after him and has her armor carry him off to the World of light where whe then takes his place.
As for Ven, after his ending where he return to the Dive Into The Heart area after defeating Vanitas, He finds refuge in Sora's heart. And then we get Roxas.
well i believe some remote part of Terra is still in thier, either by some of his memories or by some other mean, but clearly M Xehanort is the dominate half, with Terra having an very slight influence, he may not remember specifically to whom the armor belongs to but remembers it is or was very important and familiar to him. this theory goes out the window thou if Terra truly had evil intentions then he might coexist with M Xehanort, i don't believe this thou
Okay so this is what I think. (SPOILER!!) Maybe some (if not all) of Terra's conscience lives forth in Xemnas (as undoubtedly some part of Ven lived forth in Roxas, who was the nobody of Sora - Xemnas is the Nobody of Xehanort, and both M. Xehanort and Ven entered the heart of the respective Somebodies) - why else would he talk to Aqua's armor as a friend? Also, his password is Another, which could mean it is the other person inside of him, Terra, who is coming to look after Aqua's armor. Maybe?
@Yossus well, it could be that the body that was left behind when the heartless took "terranort" 's heart that became a nobody had some memory of aqua as a friend.. but, I don't think you're right. I'm sorry, but I think it's just that he remembers when he was a somebody, that before Ansem found him he had to fight Aqua, and even if he was unconscious while aqua sent her armor to the light leaving herself behind, maybe he could have a memory of that too, which would explain how he knows about it
maybe he can't access it from the realm of darkness. the room of sleep is the reflection of the room of awakening, and if he's still looking for the room of awakening, then that must meen ther's sompthing blocking the coridor of darkness from both of them. if he could get to that room with a snap of his fingers, then that would leave the question as to why he can't just find the room of awakening that way.
hm... this is kinda confusing... i know they wouldn't reveal ventus at this time because then that would be a BIG spoiler about where Roxas came from but why not show someone stalking him behind the door? Wasnt it Xigbar?
It would make no sense because terra clearly got his body taken away from him and that was xemnas talking. He says, 'my 'friend' because thats just terra's memorys reacting to xemnas, cuz xemnas is xehanorts nobody.
@xjcandmFX You're the n00b, not knowing what I'm talking about. I'm talking about before Terranort became a Heartless. I'm talking about Terranort. Not Xemnas, not Ansem the seeker of darkness. Don't call people noobs, it's rude.
@xjcandmFX Sephiroth and Organization XIII? Sephiroth and Organization XIII are nothing. Terra's the real challenge. I'm sure you know, since you say you're no noob.
@Sephiroth991995 and dude i said ORG data battles. which are lvl 99+ and i also said XIII mushrooms. d/l pcsx2 and play KH II FM (critical mode) for yourself and see if sephiroth and ORG XIII are nothing.
And I plan on beating 'Lingering Sentiment' after I beat all the ORG XIII data battles.
@xjcandmFX OK, because I'm not in a good mood and I don't want a stupid reply, read this well. I do not know what's wrong with you, or why you call people noobs like that. You're rude. You started calling me a noob because of my opinion. It's my opinion, everyone's gotta respect someone else's opinion. You started this flame war. You say I don't play Kingdom Hearts? Prove it. Before you ask me to prove ANYTHING, I tell you that I'm in no obligation to do so, you started this. Find someone else!
xemnas pays a visit to a mysterious room known as the Chamber of Repose in an secret underground laboratory dat was bulit by xehanort and ansems apprentices after they got rid of their master but be4 they became nobodies. xemnas would often visit as if something inside helped him to remember his forgotten past and would always talk to dat armor which, along with dat keyblade, belongs to aqua, one of the keyblade apprentices from the new KH game: birth by sleep.
Yes...Terra is Xehanort, if you look at Xemnas and Terra, they look just the same except for the color different. The hair and face style. When Xehanort split into a nobody and a heartless. The heartless form was more of Xehanorts personality while Xemnas has more of Terra's. o-o did alot of researching today..man literally read and researched for hours....interesting plot and story though.
@CrazedAnimeFangirls2 Yea, he did that in bbs, thats why Ansem the Wise apprentice was named Xehanort, something happened after taking over Terra's body though it could be a theory. When Xehanort split into two you'll notice they somewhat diffuse. Also organization 3-8 or so was Ansem the Wise's apprentices except for Axel and Saix. Because Nobody still have their original memorys, Xemnas aka Terra remembers Aqua & Ventus
You're wrong and right. Terra is Xehanort. Terra's body was taken over by Xehanort but all his will power went into the armor... the same one you fight in KH2 FM Ligament Armor I think i spelled something wrong
I think Xemnas is getting his memories back as Terra, and now Terra is trying to bring his "old friend" Aqua back 8D Aaaw this is gonna be awesome in KH3!!! 8D
So Xehanort didn't have his memories when he woke up and ansem found him.
But Since Xehanort became both a heartless and a nobody.. doesn't that mean that Terra's heart body is pretty much doomed? or maybe Terras soul became Xemnas, and Master xehanort's soul became the heartless "Ansem"? and since Xemnas was so desperatly trying to create kingdom hearts to extract a heart for himself to be complete again.. could it be that it is Terra without memories who is trying to be complete again?.
i tink im the only one here who thinks that Terra ISNT mansex or ansems heartless or even Xehanort. And here why: If Terra IS Xehanort then that means hed already have to be a Nobody seeing as how Xehanort starts with an X. Plus Terra has two R's and not 1. i know tha the theories of him getting amnesia and all are there but i jst dont thnk mansex or xehnort is terra. Oh well we will have to see.
@calypso694 [SPOILER WARNING!] Xehanort is NOT a heartless, his heartless is Ansem from the KH1 game. Yes, it is Terra's body and u don' fight him in FM+, u fight the lingering sentinent, that is only his armor "possessed", not actually him. Having an X in the name does not mean one is a nobody =]
@AquaStormXIV Maybe, probably most of it was spent trying to remember who she was, i geuss he never had enough time to actually figure out where she was left. Then again the armor he has should help in remembering.
This is the most drawn-out scene ever
partydoesntend 6 days ago
So far from what I can tell: this scene is taking place between Birth by sleep and KH I. Xemnas had already banished ansem, and destroyed all of his apprentices turning them into nobodies founding Org. XIII. They are given missions to look for more members (Marluxia, Larxene etc.) and Lea and Isa have probably become nobodies aswell considering they hung around that castle. But one thing is did he ever find the other room? The one where Ven sleeps.
subject18blueknight 1 month ago
@subject18blueknight That rooms was in Castle Oblivion (aka land of Departure)
He's in Radiant Garden here, and we've seen nothing of them finding Ven, so I'd assume no. And, in 358, I remember a secret report from Marluxia saying there was a room they knew existed, but couldn't find, much less enter. That'd be Ven's chamber.
TailsSena 6 days ago
walking slow motion so you still look awsome
Fysikos12 3 months ago 5
@Fysikos12 this would be the last place I would see a tobuscus comment lol
blazinblue777 2 months ago in playlist KH Cutscenes
@blazinblue777 :P
Fysikos12 2 months ago
so....xemnas is that lonely he has to talk to aqua's armor?
venomblade891 5 months ago 4
the six passwords (left to right): Xehanort, Even, Braig, Ienzo, Dilan, Aeleus
WhoTextedMeInClass 6 months ago 4
master xehanord he is talking to aquas armor
HALOROKE 6 months ago
protothea? he puts in protothea Q_____Q
HALOROKE 6 months ago
In re:coded ending it says the xehanort can come back to his ORIGINAL self, that means terra will be freed from the possession of xehanort
axelelelelel 6 months ago
@axelelelelel Not Really Because if terra Lost his heart to Darkness And became one with xehanort Xehanort Might Be the Young version Instead Of the Old one Besides even if terra's heart became free where would his Heart Go if He lost his body
pokemonkid4446 6 months ago
cue the over dramatic star wars music
cuteandcool33 7 months ago
SPOILERS.
am I the only one who thinks an elevator with Aqua's theme would've been better.
Yes. The armor belongs to Aqua. Who should be in Kingdom Hearts 3, if she learnt how to open a coridor of darkness and got an Org XIII cloak from Ansem the wise.
yes. the cool man in the secret ending of BBS was Ansem.
And,though this is my opinion, Ansem SoD was Xehanort(old and bawld)'s side of Terranort. Xemnas is Terra's side. That is probably not true though.
soulwolf2010 7 months ago
@soulwolf2010 I agree. I think that when the young Xehanort went into the darkness, the "fused" parts of Terra and the old Xehanort got split up. The Heartless looks more like Xehanort and behaves a lot more like him, while Xemnas looks more like Terra and seems to have some of his memories.
MsBluelithium 5 months ago
I wonder... Why does this one have voices...? In my KHIIFM it doesn't... D:
TehSephirothSpirit 7 months ago
At first when I saw this scene, I knew that was Aqua's armor, but I didn't know the end to BBS, so I was disgusted that he was talking to the armor like that. Now that I know the truth, it kinda makes me want to curl up in a ball and cry.
ikilledmufasa1014 7 months ago
Xehanort takes over terra, aqau fights terranort and i cant really explain that part, but theres still terra in the new xehanort right? Xehanort=ansem and Xemnas
Xemnas being xehanorts(and terrra im guessing) nobody is calling the armor an freind because that was aqau'a armor. Its terra knowing this, so that would mean Terrra is a big key clue?
Kironic102 7 months ago
hmmm wheres Xigbar, he did said he followed Xemnas here
TheRandomnessx7 8 months ago
i dont think hes talking to Aqua i think hes really talking to Vanitas through her armor i know it sounds crazy but for some weird reason i cant shake i feel as if Vanitas is still alive somehow like some left over energy i think hes going to take over Sora and or Sora might call upon his help at sometime and help him win against someone he cant beat on his own im not sure on this yet but it makes sense
Puresupremedarknesss 8 months ago
@Puresupremedarknesss that made 0 sense why would Xehanort be talking with Vanitas if Vanitas rejoined with Ven and Ven's heart is with Sora.
Remember Xehanort used to be a master so maybe he said that because of his old title.
What you said made not even a little sense not to sound rude.
Vanitas will not comeback he is defeated and his spirit was defeated as well.
2010gaje 8 months ago
@2010gaje i said left over energy and he could still be alive within that armor and or sora then he might try to take over sora in a attempt to return and we dont know if hes really truly dead he was darkness and quoting Xehanort "Darkness Cannot Be Destroyed It Can Only Be Channeled"
Puresupremedarknesss 8 months ago
@Puresupremedarknesss lols, did you read xehanort reports, vanitas is a pure negativity FROM ventus, as since ventus heart is now broken, thers like 0% his alive, i think well find out in Birth by Sleep 2 or KH3,anyway thers choices here you could guest from
1. ansem the wise
2.Xehanort
3.Terra
4.Aqua
1 of these is what he ment
animegamesbiggestfan 7 months ago
T_T Aqua. . . .
FreedomSoarsTheSky 10 months ago
i just beat the extra episode in BBS and it makes this scene pretty sad....he doesn't know why he's calling the armor his friend since he only has traces of Terra's feelings...although i do find it strange that (supposedly) the armor talks back
losthaze 11 months ago
@losthaze Xemnas does know why... he's knows the armor belongs to Aqua! That's why he had Axel search Castle Oblivion for Ventus... but obviously only Aqua can locate his sleeping body :)
murcielagogt81 9 months ago
@murcielagogt81 But the Room of Awakening is something that only Aqua should know. In fact, Xemnas shouldn't even be aware that Castle Oblivion was once the LoD, because ALL of that is information that Aqua became privy to when she was granted the title of keyblade master. And the fact that Xemnas is frantically searching for the Room of Awakening to supposedly find Ven insinuates that he knows everything that Aqua knows - except how to get to the Room of Awakening. And he shouldn't.
singerinwhite 9 months ago
@singerinwhite The thing is you're right... maybe in BbS vol.2 we'll find out how Xemnas became aware that Castle Oblivion is Land of Departure!
murcielagogt81 9 months ago
lol!!! next we get to see him cut his grass and paint his house!!! seriously do they have to show him walking for that long!?
losthaze 11 months ago
i love how with all these games the story is starting to come together more.
Vyoletpanda96 11 months ago
8 ppl r pissed because they dont know the passwords to this ( id they dont )
puresupremedarkness 1 year ago
'cause elevators are for noobs...
apocaly21 1 year ago
Er... well. i kinda thought his voice was a bit different...but i cant really say why he would have Ansem's voice flashback...I kinda disregarded that...
OK, so it's Xemnas. But the MF is still Ven's Nobody in my opinion.
I'll try to refrain from randomly making guesses. ^v^'
xDartuzax 1 year ago
Listen, Kingdom Hearts is a majority of hosh-panosh, and only most of it will probably be explained when Kingdom Hearts 3D comes out. For all we know, it could be MF.
BTW, if you have a MF theory, let me know. I'm interested in what mockery-of-a-bull-shit theory you'll come up with.
Got it memorized? >.<
xDartuzax 1 year ago
@xDartuzax Then why is his voice the same as Xemnas' and why is he hearing Ansem's flashback voice even though he never met him?
deadeye415 1 year ago
This isn't Xemnas or Ansem the wise.
It's the mysterious figure.
Who is Ven's Nobody. (Go to a KH13 MF forum to see my explanation)
That's why he called Aqua's armour "friend".
xDartuzax 1 year ago
@xDartuzax *facepalm* I LOL when I see idiots like you making stupid conclusions and I see them a lot. Its Xemnas and when he reffered to armor as ''his friend'' he didnt mean like a friend friend. You know villains can use it in contex( call their enemies a friend but not mean it) >.> . He just ment by that '' Its been a long time, my friend'' meaning its been a long time we fought and he didn't mean actually as a friend he hates her
kogajebe100 1 year ago
@kogajebe100 Not only that, but Xemnas is TECHNICALLY part Terra, so it could be referring to either meaning. Yeah, but some of these people really do have stupid theories.
MrMasterMrDoom 10 months ago
@MrMasterMrDoom well....you see now terranort is still alive, ''ansem'' and ''xemnas'' are MX's heartless and nobody so I don't think they have a part of terra in them.. I'm still trying to figure where could terranort (xehanort in terra's body) be because he sure didn't look like he was in radiant garden. But I think he started looking for Land of Departure even tho he doesnt remember much And people do have stupid theories I'm just glad I basicly made a theory about bbs which was 80%true b.r.
kogajebe100 10 months ago
@kogajebe100 That's why I put technically in caps. But they're not Master Xehanort's Heartless and Nobody; they're Xehanort (Terra-Xehanort)'s Heartless and Nobody. So Xemnas is technically the Nobody of the combination between Master Xehanort and Terra... Or something like that anyway... God, why do these games have to be so confusing? But they're some of the best on the planet, so that doesn't matter a bit.
MrMasterMrDoom 10 months ago
@xDartuzax No offense, but you people need to get your facts straight. Mysterious Figure is not ven. It cannot be Ven as you can fight against him with Ven, Terra and Aqua. The trailer showed Aqua fighting him which threw me off too but i know you can fight him with all three because i have done it.
TheHolyheadshot 1 year ago
@TheHolyheadshot Well, strictly speaking nobody was actually fighting him. Aqua is in the realm of darkness, Terra was possessed by Xehanort and Ven lost his heart. So in reality, they never fight him. It kinda has a secret ending feel, where everybody says "Sora", when almost everybody (except Aqua) are not able to do so.
Kingdom Hearts is way to complex... =_='
xDartuzax 1 year ago
You are not as strong as you think, Xemnas. Being Xehanort AND Terra's Nobody has made you weak. The light in his heart and his devotion to Ven and Aqua has creating a longing for an emotional connection even if you are a Nobody.
FreedomSoarsTheSky 1 year ago
Dude that spiral corridor scene was taken almost completely from the Temple of Bevelle in FFX! Unfortunately, they didn't take that machina elevator that took you all the way to the bottom.
zodiacdragoon 1 year ago
at 20 seconds the Disc that never was
prollenskate 1 year ago 4
i dont think hes talking to Aqua i think hes really talking to Vanitas through her armor i know it sounds crazy but for some weird reason i cant shake i feel as if Vanitas is still alive somehow like some left over energy i think hes going to take over Sora and or Sora might call upon his help at sometime and help him win against someone he cant beat on his own im not sure on this yet but it makes sense
puresupremedarkness 1 year ago
Where is ventus???? I thought aqua laid him on that exact same chair??
onewingedstar101 1 year ago
@onewingedstar101 He was placed in a chair in Castle Oblivion, not Twilight Town.
TrueTubePoops 1 year ago
So if Xehanort took over Terra, where the crap did his body go? His armour?
Shonbi 1 year ago
@Shonbi xehanort took his heart and forced on terra and xehanort body faded away like instantly and terra's armor was still working and attaked him well just look it up
damax1243 1 year ago
@Shonbi and xehanort is xemnes
roxaskm 1 year ago
Isn't it funny how all the nobody's names are just their human form's name except scrambled but with an X? Example: Roxas is just Sora with an X. Xemnas is Ansem with an X.
TheBrendude 1 year ago
Ohhh, man, sends shivers down my spine after playing BBS.
Also begs to question which part of Xemnas' consciousness was dominant, Master Xehanort's or Terra's. :3
ShadowIncarnate6 1 year ago
@ShadowIncarnate6 I believe that Xemnas is pretty much a mixture of the Master and Terra, just like how Roxas is a mix of Ven and Sora.
Sora and Xehanort both had two hearts in their bodies when they became Heartless and Nobodies. That must be why they were so unique.
Aqua311 1 year ago
A... Aqua...
xJsW116x 1 year ago 17
hm the six passwords do they mean ansem's six apprentices?
bankaiXzangetsu 1 year ago
@bankaiXzangetsu you`re rigth. i count the letters and yes, the password is ansem`s six apprentices. first xehanort, second even (vexen); third, fourth and five can be braig (xigbar), ienzo (zexion) and dilan (xaldin), and the sixth is aeleus (lexaeus).
eduardoguerrero28 1 year ago
Terra and Master Xehanort... Xehanort shoved his heart into Terra, taking him over.
And then there's Xemnas, who doesn't have neither Terra's nor Xehanort's heart. Made purely of body and soul, he still has Xehanort's ambitions but the part of Terra still in him wants to find his old friends. He knows the Chamber of Waking, where Ventus sleeps, is in Castle Oblivion, but he can't find it. The only one who can... well her armor and Keyblade lie on the floor in the Chamber of Repose.
Aqua311 1 year ago
@Aqua311 Oh, so that's how it goes! Thanks for clearing it all up. I've been really confused. I think I get it now. :P
2RandomGirls 1 year ago
@2RandomGirls There's something else I realized. You know how Sora and Xehanort had such unique Heartless and Nobodies?
It might be because both Sora and Xehanort had two hearts in their bodies. Sora and Ventus > Roxas, Terra and Master Xehanort > Xemnas. The Nobodies created became mixtures of the two.
Aqua311 1 year ago
@Aqua311 But then what about the Xehanort you fight at the end of KH? Whose nobody is he, or wait; is he even a nobody? But if he's not a nobody, how does his nobody, Xemnas, exist at the same time as him? I haven't bought any of the KH games since KH2, so I'm a little lost.
2RandomGirls 1 year ago
@2RandomGirls That Xehanort at the end of the first game, Ansem Seeker of Darkness as he calls himself, is the Heartless of Xehanort, Ansem the Wise's apprentice, who had lost his memory after a battle with Aqua. The only memory he had was his name.
When a heart is consumed by darkness, it becomes a Heartless. The body, the shell, left behind becomes a Nobody. Nobodies who had strong hearts keep their souls and their human forms, becoming members of the Organization. No more room to explain.
Aqua311 1 year ago
@Aqua311 But the Xehanort that was apprenticed to Ansem is Master Xehanort who took over Terra's heart. Well, isn't he? Because the Master and Terra fought each other over Terra's body. Once the new Xehanort's heart was consumed by darkness, he split into Ansem and Xemnas. Ansem being the ehartless and Xemnas being the nobody. And i have a question about Ventus and Sora. Didn't Ven combine with Sora when he was a kid? And wouldn't that technically mean that Ven=Roxas because Ven was inside Sora?
TheBrendude 1 year ago
@TheBrendude The apprentice Xehanort lost his memory, with the exception of his name. Yes he is Terra who has been taken over by the Master but he no longer recalls anything. He also lost the ability to wield the Keyblade. As for Ven, Sora and Roxas. When Sora was born, his heart helped fill the part that Ven lost when Vanitas was created. Their hearts were connected and Sora resembles Ven as a result. Roxas looks like Ven but he's Sora's Nobody. His Keyblade, his skills, some memories.
Aqua311 1 year ago
@Aqua311 And Vanitas looked like Sora at the time because Vanitas looked like whatever Ven's heart did? Or.....idk :S
TheBrendude 1 year ago
@TheBrendude I heard that Vanitas looks like Sora because of the connection Ven's heart made with Sora. Remember that Vanitas is a part of Ven. You would have to look him up on the KH wikia to find out more.
Aqua311 1 year ago
who's armor was that, aqua maybe?
Legomakerx 1 year ago
@Legomakerx That IS Aqua. Or at least... What's left of her...
RCDeschene 1 year ago
@RCDeschene how did she end up that way
Legomakerx 1 year ago
@Legomakerx All I'll say is that She cast herself into the darkness to protect Ven...
RCDeschene 1 year ago
@RCDeschene so then what? what becomes of Ven?
Legomakerx 1 year ago
@Legomakerx Wait!I meant to say Terra! Yeah. In the final episode when you finnish of Terranort, he seeps into darkness after Xehanort tries to eradiate Terr'as Heart with his Key. Aqua jumps in after him and has her armor carry him off to the World of light where whe then takes his place.
As for Ven, after his ending where he return to the Dive Into The Heart area after defeating Vanitas, He finds refuge in Sora's heart. And then we get Roxas.
RCDeschene 1 year ago
im wondering why he sits there to look at her armor
trey1177 1 year ago
well i believe some remote part of Terra is still in thier, either by some of his memories or by some other mean, but clearly M Xehanort is the dominate half, with Terra having an very slight influence, he may not remember specifically to whom the armor belongs to but remembers it is or was very important and familiar to him. this theory goes out the window thou if Terra truly had evil intentions then he might coexist with M Xehanort, i don't believe this thou
coorocrow 1 year ago
That is creepy..
Itachimangekyo 1 year ago
Okay so this is what I think. (SPOILER!!) Maybe some (if not all) of Terra's conscience lives forth in Xemnas (as undoubtedly some part of Ven lived forth in Roxas, who was the nobody of Sora - Xemnas is the Nobody of Xehanort, and both M. Xehanort and Ven entered the heart of the respective Somebodies) - why else would he talk to Aqua's armor as a friend? Also, his password is Another, which could mean it is the other person inside of him, Terra, who is coming to look after Aqua's armor. Maybe?
Yossus 1 year ago
@Yossus well, it could be that the body that was left behind when the heartless took "terranort" 's heart that became a nobody had some memory of aqua as a friend.. but, I don't think you're right. I'm sorry, but I think it's just that he remembers when he was a somebody, that before Ansem found him he had to fight Aqua, and even if he was unconscious while aqua sent her armor to the light leaving herself behind, maybe he could have a memory of that too, which would explain how he knows about it
kokoroyer 1 year ago
The largest keys in the world.
totlyepic 1 year ago
@totlyepic Men like Ansem the Wise with large hands need large keys. :p
HikaruIrving 1 year ago
AQUA?!?!?! :O
AdamTensei 1 year ago
Why the hell cant he just open a portal?
Sorsx 1 year ago 28
@Sorsx Are you kidding? Xemnas needs a kewl walk!
HikaruIrving 1 year ago
@Sorsx hahaha great comment!
psicobot 1 year ago
@Sorsx
maybe he can't access it from the realm of darkness. the room of sleep is the reflection of the room of awakening, and if he's still looking for the room of awakening, then that must meen ther's sompthing blocking the coridor of darkness from both of them. if he could get to that room with a snap of his fingers, then that would leave the question as to why he can't just find the room of awakening that way.
DelfinoDude 11 months ago
@Sorsx Because there's no one around to appreciate the coolness of it. :3
VoidLeaderEternal 5 months ago
So has anyone actually found the chamber of awakening? Is Ven's body still in there? o.o
Soooooooooooonicable 1 year ago
@Soooooooooooonicable more importantly, is ven's body still intact? Is it young or old?
thedarkenedwanderer 1 year ago
@thedarkenedwanderer Probably the same age. The kingdom hearts universe is weird like that.
Soooooooooooonicable 1 year ago
i completed khbbs yestaday is xehanort terra
fabianmorrison 1 year ago
@fabianmorrison "Xehanort" with the long white hair is Master Xehanort inside of Terra. He releases his heart and it enters terra's body.
Chaz6993X 1 year ago
hm... this is kinda confusing... i know they wouldn't reveal ventus at this time because then that would be a BIG spoiler about where Roxas came from but why not show someone stalking him behind the door? Wasnt it Xigbar?
921sora 1 year ago
KH nerds FTW :D
vanessaandmariely 1 year ago
Reaction to this:
OMFG.
Moonheart788 1 year ago
*spoilers for some*
Umm well Xemnas IS Terra which is why he calls Aqua's armor a friend and why he is looking for the Chamber if Wakening, because Ventus is in there.
EchoKamelot 1 year ago
@EchoKamelot LMAO! wow. you know nothing of kingdom hearts, n00b xD
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
He needs a hover car or something...freaking walks to much man -_-
blackw16 1 year ago
I understand why there are people who cut this cutscene xD
kinodeSplatReplace 1 year ago
Just keep walking, just keep walking, just keep walking, walking, walking, what do we do? We walk, walk, walk ooooo i love to waaaalk!
eyescoldlemonade 1 year ago
i hope my brain doesnt explode from trying to understand the whole storyline of kingdom hearts XD
lolziareanasiandude 1 year ago
Aqua! OMG Terra's back! (?)
Sephiroth991995 1 year ago
@Sephiroth991995 What would make you think that?
It would make no sense because terra clearly got his body taken away from him and that was xemnas talking. He says, 'my 'friend' because thats just terra's memorys reacting to xemnas, cuz xemnas is xehanorts nobody.
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX Well... Terra's soul was too strong, so Xehanort got a split personality after he took Terra's body.
Sephiroth991995 1 year ago
@Sephiroth991995 well duh, and its not a split personality, n00b.
Ansem the seeker of darkness became his heartless, Xemnas his nobody.
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX You're the n00b, not knowing what I'm talking about. I'm talking about before Terranort became a Heartless. I'm talking about Terranort. Not Xemnas, not Ansem the seeker of darkness. Don't call people noobs, it's rude.
Sephiroth991995 1 year ago
@Sephiroth991995 lmao, n00b, its terra-Xehanort. Not terranort xDDD
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX Again, you're the n00b, not knowing that Terranort is a short name for Terra-Xehanort. Get lost.
Sephiroth991995 1 year ago
@Sephiroth991995 ahah please. Maybe for you, but for people who actually know anything about kingdom hearts its terra-xehanort.
Just go to the kingdom hearts wiki.
I went just to check, and there is nothing that says terranort is short for terra-xehanort. :p
n00b.
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX Because Terranort is a fan made name ._.
Sephiroth991995 1 year ago
@Sephiroth991995 exactly, fan made. or... self made probably. Which is why any KH fan wouldnt know what your taking about.
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX Really? Try searching Terranort on YouTube.
Sephiroth991995 1 year ago
@Sephiroth991995 And trust me dude, I'm no n00b when its comes to Kingdom Hearts. Try beating KH II sephiroth at lvl 46 proud mode.
Also try getting beating all XIII mushrooms and ORG XIII data battles (second time) in KH II Final Mix.
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX Sephiroth and Organization XIII? Sephiroth and Organization XIII are nothing. Terra's the real challenge. I'm sure you know, since you say you're no noob.
Sephiroth991995 1 year ago
@Sephiroth991995 and dude i said ORG data battles. which are lvl 99+ and i also said XIII mushrooms. d/l pcsx2 and play KH II FM (critical mode) for yourself and see if sephiroth and ORG XIII are nothing.
And I plan on beating 'Lingering Sentiment' after I beat all the ORG XIII data battles.
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX I already have played KH FMIX in Critical Mode and completed it 99%. The only thing that remains is to go lvl 99 :P
Sephiroth991995 1 year ago
@Sephiroth991995 well thats cool.
I found getting to level 99 in KH2FM a bitch..
Here's what got me to level 99 in under 2 hours and i started this trick at lvl 60.
You need the exp boost ability
so when your HP drops to 25% monsters thats give like 900 exp will then give you 1200 exp.
Also have the Gullwing keyplade equipped.
So then your gonna get another exp boost, and if youve done everything i told you the nobodys in the world that never was will give you 1800 exp.
the small ones 900
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX Congrats, then.
Sephiroth991995 1 year ago
@Sephiroth991995 okay i was just trying to hook you up man.
But i guess you dont cate because obviously your really not playing.
You just want everyone to think you are.
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX care*
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX Eh, I am playing and my videos are proof, but I reached lvl 99 already :P that's why I don't care :P
Sephiroth991995 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX OK, because I'm not in a good mood and I don't want a stupid reply, read this well. I do not know what's wrong with you, or why you call people noobs like that. You're rude. You started calling me a noob because of my opinion. It's my opinion, everyone's gotta respect someone else's opinion. You started this flame war. You say I don't play Kingdom Hearts? Prove it. Before you ask me to prove ANYTHING, I tell you that I'm in no obligation to do so, you started this. Find someone else!
Sephiroth991995 1 year ago
@xjcandmFX You're a n00b until you beat KHIIFM+ on critical mode. Proud mode means nothing.
AHigherPlane 1 year ago
@AHigherPlane Wtf cant you read?
I clearly stated in the comment i posted about 2 weeks ago that I was in the process of beating KH IIFM on critical mode...
Moron.
Read the recent posts before you go calling someone a N00b.
xjcandmFX 1 year ago
I know that's either Terra or Aqua.
mrserjmalakian 1 year ago
@mrserjmalakian
its aqua. that was her keyblade looks like.
The1Spunk 1 year ago
I know a lot have posted this.. but...
Could you explian in a more organized way please?:
The armor looks like the pre-last boss you fight in the game (KHII)
Is it the same? os does it have anything to do one to another?
bakarichard 1 year ago
@bakarichard heres the scenario:
xemnas pays a visit to a mysterious room known as the Chamber of Repose in an secret underground laboratory dat was bulit by xehanort and ansems apprentices after they got rid of their master but be4 they became nobodies. xemnas would often visit as if something inside helped him to remember his forgotten past and would always talk to dat armor which, along with dat keyblade, belongs to aqua, one of the keyblade apprentices from the new KH game: birth by sleep.
alpha92613 1 year ago
@bakarichard
theres three people with armor. :P
The1Spunk 1 year ago
Eurgh. Did they really have to show him walking all the way down?
sephylafudge 1 year ago 37
@sephylafudge fo real, and all calmly at dat!
alpha92613 1 year ago
@sephylafudge
Seriously, you can't wait that long? XD
Jitsuadlan 1 year ago
Yes...Terra is Xehanort, if you look at Xemnas and Terra, they look just the same except for the color different. The hair and face style. When Xehanort split into a nobody and a heartless. The heartless form was more of Xehanorts personality while Xemnas has more of Terra's. o-o did alot of researching today..man literally read and researched for hours....interesting plot and story though.
kaseysaechao 1 year ago
@kaseysaechao Acutally, I read that Xehanrot too over Terras body afer getting rid of his human self.
CrazedAnimeFangirls2 1 year ago
@CrazedAnimeFangirls2 Yea, he did that in bbs, thats why Ansem the Wise apprentice was named Xehanort, something happened after taking over Terra's body though it could be a theory. When Xehanort split into two you'll notice they somewhat diffuse. Also organization 3-8 or so was Ansem the Wise's apprentices except for Axel and Saix. Because Nobody still have their original memorys, Xemnas aka Terra remembers Aqua & Ventus
kaseysaechao 1 year ago
@kaseysaechao *SPOILERS ALERT* Lol
You're wrong and right. Terra is Xehanort. Terra's body was taken over by Xehanort but all his will power went into the armor... the same one you fight in KH2 FM Ligament Armor I think i spelled something wrong
LuiGiIsPro 1 year ago
i wonder who that person is in that coat. hmmm.
HaLfDeAdKeyblader 1 year ago
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rashyboy 1 year ago
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rashyboy 1 year ago
Why didn't he just float down there?
NYTROXZ 1 year ago 14
@NYTROXZ ikr! since he thinks hes so cool why didnt he just fly or something....stupid suspense... -.-
rasengan4311 1 year ago
@NYTROXZ WALKING SLOWLY IS FOR THE COOL.
Shonbi 1 year ago 45
I think Xemnas is getting his memories back as Terra, and now Terra is trying to bring his "old friend" Aqua back 8D Aaaw this is gonna be awesome in KH3!!! 8D
rockdude483 1 year ago
*realization* Ahh I get it. :O
*spoiler for some xP* That's Aqua's armor and Xemnas is speaking as Terra. (ref: "my friend")
Kinda weird though because in the ending when Sora asked Xemnas if he remembered his past Xemnas said unfortunately he doesn't. :/
It's still confusing. Dx It's unfair that they only have this in Japan, because this is really some nifty information.
charlottejazmine 1 year ago
I rememebr first seeing this and going O_Owow XD lol one of my fave parts in finel mix 2^^
Alightwithin09 1 year ago
who is, "my freind"? terra?
mutzmax1 1 year ago
that sounds a lot like xehanorts voice
Shp00N 1 year ago
Could the passwords be the original 6?
the first one = 8 chars (Xehanort?)
second = 4 chars (Even?)
third to fifth = 5 chars (Dilan, Braig, Ienzo?)
sixth = 6 chars (Aleaus?)
Although why is it in that order....?
I'd be freaked out if I had to walk down those stairs .. o.o
chiaP3 1 year ago
They have an awsome house O_O
shikagirl198 1 year ago
Aqua NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lol
ArceusMaster50 1 year ago
@ArceusMaster50 he didnt die, at the end of birth by sleep she uses her armor to get him back to safety
Shp00N 1 year ago
i think xemnas is a part of terra and ansem is a part of master xehanort ..
eisenboi06 1 year ago
for anyone wanting to know BBS comes out 09/07/2010 in the USA
khoathkeeper13 1 year ago
it really bugs me how we need kh3 so badly to figure out the story
Every new Kingdom hearts game leaves us with as many new questions as new answeres
Novasingularity 1 year ago
So Xehanort didn't have his memories when he woke up and ansem found him.
But Since Xehanort became both a heartless and a nobody.. doesn't that mean that Terra's heart body is pretty much doomed? or maybe Terras soul became Xemnas, and Master xehanort's soul became the heartless "Ansem"? and since Xemnas was so desperatly trying to create kingdom hearts to extract a heart for himself to be complete again.. could it be that it is Terra without memories who is trying to be complete again?.
Novasingularity 1 year ago
@Novasingularity Haha you're getting itttt ;D
XxKasumiChouxX 1 year ago
@XxKasumiChouxX lol, i'm tryin ^^'
Novasingularity 1 year ago
DUDE. BBS made this SO clear. For once i'm actually glad I spoiled the whole thing for myself.....
TheOriginalEmoEmu1 1 year ago
oh plus u fight terra in FM+ anyways as a secret boss soooo idk NO SPOILERS IF YOUVE PLAYED THE JAP VERSION
calypso694 1 year ago
i tink im the only one here who thinks that Terra ISNT mansex or ansems heartless or even Xehanort. And here why: If Terra IS Xehanort then that means hed already have to be a Nobody seeing as how Xehanort starts with an X. Plus Terra has two R's and not 1. i know tha the theories of him getting amnesia and all are there but i jst dont thnk mansex or xehnort is terra. Oh well we will have to see.
calypso694 1 year ago
@calypso694 do you not know what happens in bbs?
AliceCullen10 1 year ago
@AliceCullen10 not a clue, planning to keep it that way until it releases in the USA and i beat it.
calypso694 1 year ago
@calypso694 oh well lets just say you'll be very suprised. :)
AliceCullen10 1 year ago
@calypso694 [SPOILER WARNING!] Xehanort is NOT a heartless, his heartless is Ansem from the KH1 game. Yes, it is Terra's body and u don' fight him in FM+, u fight the lingering sentinent, that is only his armor "possessed", not actually him. Having an X in the name does not mean one is a nobody =]
SqualssLeon 1 year ago
@SqualssLeon but does that armor thats in this scien belong to terra?
mutzmax1 1 year ago
@mutzmax1 that's aqua's armor. terra's is the secret boss, the lingering sentiment ;)
SqualssLeon 1 year ago
This explains a LOT about Birth By Sleep
LuvzKingdomHearts81 1 year ago
i wonder if Xemnas ever spent any part of his time looking for Aqua.
AquaStormXIV 1 year ago 28
@AquaStormXIV i know aqua looked for terra. (remember the secret cutscene with her and DiZ? it took place ten years after kh2.)
rikoxasora 1 year ago
@AquaStormXIV
he might of i mean look at how much free time he had in 358/2days. i think he did something eles besides sit on his fat ass all day.
pieman173 1 year ago 3
@AquaStormXIV Maybe, probably most of it was spent trying to remember who she was, i geuss he never had enough time to actually figure out where she was left. Then again the armor he has should help in remembering.
jekal5M 1 year ago