In response to nowayoutstp4, that is true that the DA 20-CI is not always certified for spins when it's equiped with the 'Altitude compensating fuel system'. With that system, it's not only limited to spins but also for stalls (except whip stalls) and intentional side slips.
You may be right, however, I have not looked into any type other than the one I trained on and it was definitely chosen, purchased, and delivered as certified for spins for the purpose of flight training. This video was meant to be fun not a knowledge contest.
i was also told the 20 was not certed for spins, but google it, according to everything i've seen it is, the owner was probly tryin to save the ai from abuse.
Nothing has changed, you were just misinformed. The State University sponsored, FAA approved, Part 141 Certified Flight Instructor course I completed has been using DA-20's for spin training for years, as seen in the video.
He wasn't misinformed necessarily. EASA is generally stricter than the FAA, and has not certified the DA20 for spins. So in Europeland it is not permitted.
Most of them are however mine is not because something has to do with your feet getting stuck in between the rudder peddles you can still do spins but its not legal but like i said most DA20s have had this problem fixed its only the older ones
Ok: pick a visual point, note heading, power out smoothly, bleed off airspeed & pitch up quickly (but smoothly) to induce the stall (usually stop, hold, & wait don't go past ~ 15-18 deg.) When the stall is imminent (horn/buffet/feel) full rudder pressure in the direction of intended spin.
To maintain spin: hold full rudder & full aft elevator. To recover: simultaneously relax elevator and apply full rudder in opposite dir. of spin. (do not apply aileron as this will increase the inboard wing's aoa & aggravate the inside stall) once the rotation ceases & airspeed gives you control effectiveness, recover to a level flight attitude fast enough not to exceed VNE and slow enough not to impose excessive G's. Clean shorts. Yay.
Nope. You only have to recover from the full break of a stall and be FAMILIAR with spin characteristics in order to get your private, instrument, &/or commercial license (not necessarily with all, but in the sense that some are prerequisites) the spins were in training for flight instructor certification. You don't have to do them to get your license so don't let that turn you away.
This was the type I did most of my learning in. Lots of fun, never had a problem recovering from a spin, but I haven't done spins in anything else for comparison.
I've done them in a C-150, i'd say that it's a bit snappier in a 150 but I wouldn't say the characteristics are different enough that you couldn't ace one on the first or second try in the one if you were proficient in the other.
bahaha hilarious, do you know how much altitude you lost?
Ergamoose 1 year ago
not allowed to do spins in the jaa aircraft does work tho have tried :P
flyhighcharlie 2 years ago
In response to nowayoutstp4, that is true that the DA 20-CI is not always certified for spins when it's equiped with the 'Altitude compensating fuel system'. With that system, it's not only limited to spins but also for stalls (except whip stalls) and intentional side slips.
EricHache 2 years ago
You may be right, however, I have not looked into any type other than the one I trained on and it was definitely chosen, purchased, and delivered as certified for spins for the purpose of flight training. This video was meant to be fun not a knowledge contest.
sham8723 2 years ago
definatlety certed for spins. i train in one
dovidair 3 years ago
i was also told the 20 was not certed for spins, but google it, according to everything i've seen it is, the owner was probly tryin to save the ai from abuse.
nowayoutstp4 3 years ago
Utility Category.
sham8723 3 years ago
I did my PPL on the DA 20 and as far as I remember it wasn't certified for spinning. Has something changed?
a340bo737 3 years ago
Nothing has changed, you were just misinformed. The State University sponsored, FAA approved, Part 141 Certified Flight Instructor course I completed has been using DA-20's for spin training for years, as seen in the video.
In the DA-20 spins are approved.
sham8723 3 years ago
@sham8723
He wasn't misinformed necessarily. EASA is generally stricter than the FAA, and has not certified the DA20 for spins. So in Europeland it is not permitted.
Croopskate 10 months ago
non-acrobatic, except for intentional spins.
miianwilson 3 years ago
Most of them are however mine is not because something has to do with your feet getting stuck in between the rudder peddles you can still do spins but its not legal but like i said most DA20s have had this problem fixed its only the older ones
atvmaster281 3 years ago
could you post a quick synopsis of the steps to produce the spin and recovery as you employed in this vid? Would be cool to know :D
netscion 4 years ago
Ok: pick a visual point, note heading, power out smoothly, bleed off airspeed & pitch up quickly (but smoothly) to induce the stall (usually stop, hold, & wait don't go past ~ 15-18 deg.) When the stall is imminent (horn/buffet/feel) full rudder pressure in the direction of intended spin.
sham8723 4 years ago
To maintain spin: hold full rudder & full aft elevator. To recover: simultaneously relax elevator and apply full rudder in opposite dir. of spin. (do not apply aileron as this will increase the inboard wing's aoa & aggravate the inside stall) once the rotation ceases & airspeed gives you control effectiveness, recover to a level flight attitude fast enough not to exceed VNE and slow enough not to impose excessive G's. Clean shorts. Yay.
sham8723 4 years ago
I agree with your posts but I thought it was throttle to idle, level ailerons, full rudder opposite of rotation.
simplemanhere 4 years ago
Wait so if you trained to be a fixed wing aircraft pilot you need to do these scary spins?? Crap that looks scary!
miniheli 4 years ago
Nope. You only have to recover from the full break of a stall and be FAMILIAR with spin characteristics in order to get your private, instrument, &/or commercial license (not necessarily with all, but in the sense that some are prerequisites) the spins were in training for flight instructor certification. You don't have to do them to get your license so don't let that turn you away.
sham8723 4 years ago
This was the type I did most of my learning in. Lots of fun, never had a problem recovering from a spin, but I haven't done spins in anything else for comparison.
justintree3 4 years ago
I've done them in a C-150, i'd say that it's a bit snappier in a 150 but I wouldn't say the characteristics are different enough that you couldn't ace one on the first or second try in the one if you were proficient in the other.
sham8723 4 years ago
Nice job. I fly the same type, not tried to spin it yet. How easy is it to recover? any nasty traits?
stuartflys 4 years ago
I did my CFI training in one of these. they spin like a dream. easy to recover. if you let go of the controls they will recover naturally.
denalipilot 4 years ago