That's no solution, for if people had fewer babies, there would be less people alive to benefit.
Even liberals say "You can't stop people from having sex." But what happens when the people misled by the rampant contraceptive pushing, wisen up and find either practical or "religious" objections to use of any means of "birth control?" And yet we still want our "unlimited" sex? Obviously, so many families are going to grow BIG.
@pronatalist I don't need to be einstein to know how to fix that problem, I think every human being knows a way , because we're not stupid. so sometimes one needs to go to the extremes, rather that then war. and I think many would agree, however there's probably a lot better ways of solving the problem ,just that people are ego and only think about themselfs. they rather want a baby and let war begin then to wait until it's calmed down alittle, or make a rule like only 2 kids / family.
It's not just people thinking of themselves, but surely parents reproduce, also for the good of their children, who can then also enjoy existing.
Birthing babies is just as proper and natural, as the beating heart, or breathing. It's a natural life process.
Parents don't need to wait until pop growth "calms" down a little, but rather, baby booms tend to be "contagious," awakening yearnings in ever more people, to procreate babies.
@pronatalist people are just gotta keep growing in population and to let it keep on happening, wont solve any problems, will probably just lead to war. because people will start taking land because they dont have enough of their own.
I'm glad you think people will keep on growing in pop. I sure hope so. I really do hope people are wise enough to reject the rampant contraceptives pushing and find their practical or "religious" objections to "birth control."
What land will they take? Underutilized land wasted on wildlife refuges and other unproductive uses? I already advocate more places with lots of people and fewer places far from lots of people. We need a denser planet to make place for all.
The common people aren't the ones who make the wars. It's now the New World Order criminal elites, who manipulate the economies against the poor, spread poverty, and then scheme to murder the poor for the "sin" of being poor.
Think about it. Most people don't want to take their neighbor's land. They just want their own little place. But evil govs deny people any claim to land, and bulldoze their shanties. Without land rights, how can they build way out of poverty?
@pronatalist I'm not pointing any fingers, and just saying that if there is a crisis then by all means, make some useful laws then to start a war because that is what is going to happen if not. isn't that obvious? if you dont have enough land for your people, there will be war and they will take land with force (war)
I thought you said that people just gotta keep on growing in pop. If so, then doesn't that suggest that pop is "out of control" or "beyond control," or at least "meant to grow" by God? I have long advocated large families worldwide, for even people in "crowded" conditions want to live and come alive and be born. So "birth control" is no solution to "overcrowding" for life is far more important than open space.
Free up land for human habitation, let pop spread freely
It is wrong to blame people for having babies, when having babies is natural, and poverty is caused by corrupt govs and their fiat paper currency dishonest money, not caused by natural large families.
Hitler was wrong. Countries don't need lebensraum (living space) to grow pop, for world pop has tripled since WW2 without adding more land. Countries instead grew denser.
We can increase numbers by allowing people live and procreate in closer proximity on global scale
Look at the evidence. Crowded conditions do not send people to war. People continue to multiply in crowded conditions, for babies were conceived on the Mayflower and in concentration camps, no matter that there was nowhere to be alone for marital relations (sex). Wars are now caused by New World Order criminal elitists, who have a clearly documented depop agenda.
3 perceptional dimensions yet to grow into: Outwards, inwards, upwards. Ample room to keep on growing.
Why isn't it more obvious, that to oppose people without sufficient cause, is wrong? If pop growth is taking hold across the planet, then let it. Sometimes nature has to take its course, but I disagree that that means something "bad" for people.
Let cities fill up with people, build more cities, let the new cities fill up, and build yet more suburbs upon suburbs, and build still more cities. People need the jobs anyway
I know the planet isn't getting any bigger, so that's a reason I have been so long harping to allow world pop to grow denser and denser. By allowing world pop density to rise, we can find, or make, ample room for everybody and their progeny, and people can go on enjoying their precious darling babies, and families can go on growing naturally, as large as ever.
Let people live most anywhere they want. Where can we put more billions? Where we always have, in between
Where can we put more billions? Where we always have, in between all the people already living.
How can parents enjoy having their precious darling babies, in a world of so many people already? Simple. There can come to be more places with lots of people and fewer places far from lots of people.
Use technology and development to make way for lots more people.
We may only be talking a few more billions, but if more come, we can ADAPT to that too.
Technology is a tool, that can be used for good or bad. Certainly, to make way for growing human pops, is one of the most ideal uses for technology, and I have long thought that pop growth is a big factor in driving forward technology. So technology would seem to be among natural pop self-accomodation factors.
How long can we keep growing in size? For as long as God allows. How long can Eve's pregnant belly keep growing? If 1st pregnancy in the world, who knows?
You don't like technology? What? Are you Amish? And yet you are using a computer?
Who do you think it should be, barging into people's bedrooms, to make sure they don't procreate "too many" babies? You? Me? Gov? Gov can't be trusted to do much of anything right. "Gov governs best which governs least." Didn't Thomas Jefferson say that?
I'm not going to make any effort to convince people to have smaller families, for I like BIG families.
I don't believe humans were designed to use any method of "birth control." Why do we have such a bewildering array of nasty contraceptives? Because every method is shoddy, so they invent yet another shoddy method?
God didn't design people to use contraceptives, but to Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. I agree with encouraging families everywhere, to let their babies push out unhindered, without using any means of "birth control."
@pronatalist I don't think god created this imperfect universe, I think that's the other one who did that. I'm not religious or an atheist, im a truthist. I don't really have time to explain all that but, there's plenty of information about that out there if you're interested.
I still stick with what I've said, cause that makes alot of sense to me. However you do what you want, everyone does, even if it's crazy.
Why do we have crazy videos, calling for worldwide "birth control," when we have buildings and obelisks shaped to be phallic symbols? Seems a little inconsistent, don't you think?
The icon for the video, the overcrowded train, can be explained. It's not really a symbol of "overpop" at all, but what happens when gov hinders the economy. I heard somewhere, if private business buses were allowed to compete with gov, and charge a little more for uncrowded buses ...
, ... buses wouldn't be so crowded. I presume that could apply to trains too. If they would just run more buses and trains.
What "other one?" The devil was created by God. So why would the devil create the universe? The Bible says it is God, or Jesus, who created the world. The earth is the Lord's (Psalm 24: 1).
You are a "truthist?" Define? I haven't heard that term? Or do you mean a "truther?" Truthers say that 9-11 was an inside job, or official gov story is lie
@pronatalist truthist. just re-search about the goverment with and open mind and you'll be able to see through their lies, cause when you come that far, you start seing different versions coming from the same people of the same groups, and it's kinda hard to not see the truth then. there's so much cover-ups going on with aliens and the goverment. basic truth would be truthism(dot)com after that follow the links below and this is just the basics and it's ALOT (dont forget the links below after!)
Website is indeed crap. What? A hollow earth? Center of gravity only 400 miles down? If you were on the inside shell, "upside down," where would the gravity be? Summing up gravity from all "above shell" points by calculus, would pretty much cancel out gravity, in there was no earth "further down." Well unless they lied to us also, about the nature of gravity, and gravity diminishes even faster than the inverse square of the distance?
@pronatalist gravity can be used to bend time and space, just that the masses are completely unaware of this, because they already decided that they "know" the truth and wont accept this real raw truth, because they've been brainwashed their entire lifes to believe in lies. the so called "real world" that people calls this, is totally anti-truth.
because that's how it's all setup before we even got here. ppl are getting brainwashed right before your eyes, and amazingly most dont see it.
@pronatalist illusions is also a big part of it, to keep us in anti-truth. there's far greater things that exists than most could even imagen going on out there, truth is stranger than fiction.
Oh, come on, gov is probably hiding technology we could use right now, but gov doesn't have "technology from future aliens." Bend time and space? What is that? Star Trek "warp drive?"
World is ruled by a very small and dangerous minority, not by the voters as we are led to believe.
Other night, on Coast To Coast radio, they were talking fascinating "free energy" stuff, right around the corner. Piezo effect chips on microscopic scale - cellphones never need charging
@pronatalist yeah, ofc they are, who knows how far they've come with technology, but it's from the help of aliens that they have the advanced technolgy, the trade with em. and these aliens they are trading with are not the "good guys" really.
movies is a form of brainwashing too, so I see why I brought that up. people watch too much movies and television these days. listen to the media and accept it as truth, it's why people stay in ignorance, because they think they already know the answers.
@pronatalist oh, I didn't know that "coast to coast radio". however we do have telepathic abilties that needs to be awakened, then we wouldnt need a phone. and we'd be free to commuicate with anyone anywhere, even on the astral planes with the speed of thought.
human beings aren't really that smart actually, since alot of animals already communicate with telepathy as collective conciousness, just that humans need to bring this out in the open and find someone who can teach it.
Imagine cars that run continuously for 6 months, on a replaceable component that cost $30.
Powers that be, do not want us having "free energy" without cost, unmetered, because it levels the playing field. Without them manufacturing phony scarcity, how do they stay in control?
I long suspected such technology IS possible, but how much it has been invented and explored, is still not well known to public. So how are they planning to shut it down? Too many people know?
@pronatalist check this one out with bob lazar and his car: watch?v=LOGgUe72XHI
not sure really, re-search it. my eyes are starting to shut down and seing things cloudy, it's 00:43 here and I gotta sleep now, but it was nice talking to you :), to be continued later if you want.
Imagine the poor, being able to drive for as far as they want, without having to buy fuel. Think that might change things? Come to think of it, could that be a reason evil politicians have been toying with idea of taxing us by GPS mile in addition to fuel taxes?
It's not alien technology. Some of the technology is probably coming from fallen angels, demons, helping evil people to invent ever more ways to kill people.
@pronatalist fast answer here, since your comment just popped up when I finished mine. ever thought, that aliens are angels and demons, it's a possibility, shouldn't let your physical eyes tell you what's beneath.
I told you "Coast to Coast," because you probably can find a podcast website, if you want to hear it.
What evidence is there of telepathy? If so, that's after the resurrection, some spiritual thing. What I suspect people may have that's now dormant, is a "compass" in their brain. Don't animals navigate by built-in compass, and probably memory too? People didn't long have great maps and GPS, so people may have been able to "sense" direction a whole lot better in past
@pronatalist lol popped up agian ok, but now I really gotta go after this ^^.
well, once you've experianced psychic abilities, you won't doubt it anymore.
learn-psychic-powers(dot)com is a nice little site to start with, to get some understanding on how it works, just small part, try astral projecting and clairvoyance to begin with and psyhic self-defense for incoming negative emotions/thoughts and other forms of energys.
Okay, I just watched your video link. Interesting. I have usually scoffed at hydrogen, because it's not an ideal fuel, we can't drill for it, nor store it easily. And it's usually presented as an alternative to the oil drilling we so much need. But if enough technical issues are solved, then it could be a real answer to foreign oil monopoly and our own unwillingness to liberate our own oil resource.
Most "running my car on hydrogen device" videos are crap.
One of the reasons why "green" or "renewable" energy of solar, is such crap, is because not only is solar too expensive, but it can't produce the energy when it is needed, and storing the energy has been near impossible.
A daydream, but because I am not an engineer nor a tinkerer, how can I possibly build it? What if your harder-working-in-summer solar panels, worked all summer, working whenever the sun shines, manufacturing propane for winter when there's less sun?
What can't you run on propane? Heat, air conditioning, camper refrigerator. Even generators can run on propane.
I figure you'd need more fuel oil, for your oil furnace, or more propane, during the winter when it's so cold. The ant in the children's fable, worked hard all summer to get ready for winter, while the lazy grasshopper played. Why can't a machine work for you throughout summer?
Propane is merely hydrocarbons. Hydrogen from water. Carbon, from where? Air?
So what's the missing component to artificially synthesize propane? How about ENERGY. If we have all summer to fill that big propane tank, to last all winter, then the solar panels might actually have time to gather enough energy to do the work, and the machine "sleeps" at night and on cloudy days, due to lack of input energy. The weaknesses of the 2 technologies, combine to form a useful strength. Providing handy storage for variable energy gathering from nature.
@pronatalist oh and if you wanna keep talking send me a private message instead as answer :) will be easier to follow up, then to make 20 comments in a row :) since amount of letters are so limited here. have a nice day, I'll talk to you later I guess then :)
TV watching just sucks the intelligence out of you. People watch too passively, making TV all the easier, a communist brainwashing tool. Proper way to watch TV, is don't watch too much, and be more selective what you watch. Don't watch passively, but talk to the TV, argue with it, call it a liar, because it is a liar. News gets more and more outrageous, people who seek truth and pay attention, know sometimes when story is too bizarre to happened as they claim.
@pronatalist Kill your god, kill your tv :) I don't know where remember that line from but I think it was from a song, it is true, I agree with you, people watch movies and see aliens for an example and suddenly they dont think aliens cant be real, cause they same em in a movie.
Oh, I believe a lot of the conspiracy theories, but they need stories and evidence that make sense, not just some old legend false religion crap.
The human moon landings were probably faked. Look at the documentaries and see the classic signs of gov coverup.
Gov may already have "free energy" and flying saucers they are hiding from us. And then they crush our economy under runaway taxes and "environmental" regulations, when they are hiding the better technologies?
@pronatalist truthism is not a religion, it's just truth, it doesn't have a name really. it's just what it is.
yeah I do agre the moon landing looked very faked.
they do have space travelling vehicles they've had that since around 1970's if I remember it correctly.
don't look at the government as friends, they keep this from us, that makes them the opposite of friends. they dont care about us, so dont expect to get anything from them, gotta use your own mind and re-search, and never quit.
Many problems with the moon landing account, can be easily explained away. Flag blowing in wind, is due to momentum of the flag placement, without air to dampen movement, or so claimed Mythbusters. They also did "footprint" experiment in vacuum" with dust similar to moon dust. Water moisture is not needed to hold footprint.
But they did not have 6-foot lead shield against Van Allen belt radiation. Moon temperature extremes would have destroyed camera film.
Problems were found with the lighting of the set, and shadows that go in different directions.
Why is the astronaut so well lit up, in the shadow of the lunar lander? Maybe that can be explained, by light reflected from moon surface, which would not reflect at the right angle, to light up shadows on the moon's surface.
Political expediency explains landing fakery motive. JFK may truly not have known, that scientists were nowhere near prepared to send people to moon
@pronatalist I think there's actually a video here on youtube about the faked moonlanding so, I think I saw it here before, must of been a year ago atleast but I think it's still up.
Watch some of the great videos about HAARP and chem-trails (Chemtrails What in the world are they spraying?), then tell me how many "natural disasters," bad weather, and "acts of God" might actually be man's mischief or "false flags" or acts of war against other countries? What are they doing to our (GMO) food?
Watched a video about the Great Deluge (Noah's Ark), got ideas they had more technology than we have been told, and maybe man cracked earth, released waters?
@pronatalist user "humanswin" got some nice videos that I think you might be interested in, unless I've mentioned that last time. I myself am a truthist and I agree with every bit of what truthism(dot)com explain when it comes to where we are and who we are. there's links below that too, that leads you to more information, if you're interested in reading about it ofcourse.
I can't prove that theory. Just put some pieces of the puzzle together, and the picture that emerges, may differ strangely from the revised his-story propaganda that we have been taught all our lives.
So maybe such a major "act of God," wasn't done by God, but God knew it was coming, let it happened, and warned well-in-advance his faithful followers, Noah and his family?
Don't just read about Noah in Genesis. The account in the Book of Jasher is so much more vivid.
One of the dangers of "Coast To Coast," is that they talk too much about aliens, and UFO crap. But it's worth listening to, because they are into all that weird crap, they get into conspiracy theory stuff too, which is well worth hearing. Often very good experts and authors, who say things that deviate from the official lies of gov.
Psychic and similar topics, are pretty much forbidden in the Bible, so dabbling in the occult could be a dangerous snare. Seek truth.
@pronatalist yeah, I agree I can sit for hours and listen to people discuss about aliens and ufos, aspecially hidden technology from the masses and aliens, doesn't get much more interesting than that. I never listend to "coast to coast" so I do not know, I'll have to look that one up today when I get home from work, if I remember it. psychic abilities are natrual, it's the negative energy that can be used for evil like mind control. however you can use it to make people feel good as well.
@pronatalist oh and I do believe the spirit is energy and emotions power the energy, the stronger the emotion the more powerful spirit. however you might not agree on this, but we're really just exchanging knowledge so, even though my english is alittle rusty :) I hope you manage ^^. after all we're not in grammar class ^^. you wrote so much now that I won't even have time to reply to all of it right now. but it's interesting what you had to say about "propane" It sounds correct to me.
No, spirit is not simply energy. Computers have energy, but no spirit.
God breathed life into Adam, and he became a living soul. He didn't receive a soul, but he was a living soul.
Babies don't "receive" a soul, on some magic day long after their conception. No, I think right from moment of conception, the soul "energy" or whatever you want to call it, SPREADS. This could be profound reason for Onan, or for all people, to not spill their seed, but let life happen!
I don't consider myself "better" than my children, so I should not create obstacles to their conception. Of course, I would expect for children to do their chores, especially in "uncontrolled" natural large families, and help the parents out to run the family for the good of all. I want my children to know just how much they are wanted, in knowing that their parents do not practice any form of "birth control," because more children are always welcome,should God allow
Did you get my PM to you? But the pop issue, I wish to discuss in public, so that anybody can read, or jump in and say something, if they have anything to contribute.
I don't advocate that people procreate willy-nilly, giving it no thought, nor being careless. Obviously, the natural human reproduction is a potent mighty force of nature, able even to change the ecology of the planet. But used wisely and morally, and using technology for denser pops, it's a GOOD force
People just don't seem to understand that human pop growth is self-sustaining. Most all jobs somehow alter nature to better support more people, for most all productive jobs serve people in some way. That's a practical reason I do not believe in either imposing pop "control" upon people, nor use of any means of "birth control." World pop has grown so "huge," because that's what it was DESIGNED to do
We should respect our reproductive rhythms,by letting babies happen
@pronatalist oh and, you can always build boats and put em in the see, how long can we keep growing in size? not long, am I the only realizing this as something completely obvious.
We're not running out of space for people. We have plenty of space and resources. We just need to learn how to better organize the race and share. Which is entirely impossible without world domination by a GOOD power. Our race is too greedy and will not be aloud to move on to start travel. We have already lost the chances.
the indians dont want to ear us about not having kidfs or condoms, dumb fucks their economy will always go down, more people less food less jobs in medium size country, they are fucke and not even a first class world country, they simply dont give shit
people of the poor countries who have 6 and 7 children each couple are obviously at fault and totally insane unsustainable stuff, no matter what people say. India and China alone (not together) have more population than europe and america together. Bangla desh has more population than russia and is like 1000 times smaller. Cmon, just get real
Humans have right and ought to be encouraged to enjoy, the full natural birthrate unrestrained. Nobody is to blame for pop growing so "huge," for it is the nature of people, and of nature, to spread (human) life into most every niche available. The 7th child is worth just as much, is just as precious, as the 1st child. Many people find great and compelling reasons to reject all forms of "birth control," and definitely we should never impose pop "control" upon people. Let babies come!
@pronatalist you are stupid and so is your username.
In a limited world, we can't fucking grow the poupulation in unlimited numbers. FACT. The overpopulation will be the main problem of our planet in this upcoming century. Not enough food or resources for everyone
Oh yes we can allow "huge" human pops to grow naturally in "unlimited" numbers. Families can remain large even in today's populous world.
How can parents enjoy having their precious darling babies, in a world of so many people alive already? Isn't it obvious? Grow denser. Simply let world pop density rise along with our natural increase. Then everybody and their progeny can still all fit. Where can we put more billions? Where we always have. In between all the people already living.
Why do you mock my username? Did you really think that in today's populous world of they claim, 7 billion, nobody could possibly still be naturally pronatalist? Of course there's still people who agree with and welcome the natural spread of human life unhindered.
What could be more NATURAL than the natural increase of humanity?
There can simply come to be more places with lots of people, and fewer places far from lots of people.
Plenty of food, resources, but NWO tries to end that
So is India and China also similarly "stupid" for letting their pops grow naturally so "huge?" I think not, because more and more people would be glad to live. Having highly populated and dense countries, is doing their part to help the human race spread and the planet to hold more people than ever
What was stupid is the NWO pop "control" creeps who think such a mighty "force of nature" that human reproductions is perhaps fast becoming, can or should be "controlled." Let us grow wild
Even if you and I didn't have any children, wouldn't the other billions of people still naturally procreate? So pop would still grow. A more pronatalist attitude helps insure that rather than squandering resources fighting nature, that we more readily ADAPT to the natural pop growth that may soon prove quite unstoppable anyway.
Somebody has to warn the people about side effects of shoddy contraceptive potions and poisons. Somebody has to defend the responsible naturally-big families
Neither one. Why would you think that? My username, Pronatalist, shows my persuasion and emphasis already. So I am no troll, but I already favor the natural increase, consistent with my prolife beliefs. Not "retarded" either. I'm very highly educated, I do much reading and thinking, and I've given much thought to my beliefs and how to promote them.
Not all of nature was meant to be "controlled," and allowing humanity to spread naturally, allows far more people to experience life.
"Controlled" growing, probably means something like "Zero Pop Growth," which is TYRANNY, not individual freedom at all. You must ask the embarrassing questions the evil NWO doesn't want you asking. Such as "Well who then will be doing the 'controlling'?"
It's still under some sort of "control" but then God's control, or in man's terms, free to grow "wild." It takes time to grow, and I find that sufficient "control" for my purposes, allowing mankind ample time to prepare and ADAPT.
The poverty of India is not caused by large families, but poverty does encourage more families to grow large. But there are better reasons to grow large, than just distractions from being poor.
Ever hear of the Utilitarian Principle? Says that often the best thing to do is that which most benefits the most people. I am not alone in noticing that implies pop GROWTH, for some website also remarked about that implication. When pop is allowed to expand, more people benefit from whatever
Of course, another cool benefit of "uncontrolled" growing, is that no means of "birth control" is needed, nor is there any use for deception or coercion to try to curb the natural family size. It's far more simple and elegant, to welcome babies to happen as they happen, as worked so well for our ancestors.
A more pronatalist society, does not occur in a vacuum, and so it's likely to be a lot more family-friendly, and it will "crowd out" things bad for families, such as high taxes.
@pronatalist lol everything you say is bullshit. As i said, we can't grow forever. There MUST be control sooner or later, its not about tyranny or freedom its about having common sense. The world is a small place for us all, and people cant have unlimited freedom either. You also confuse freedom to Libertine. You have freedom althoug it is limited as you can't do anything that is harmful for a vas majority of people. Is stealing good? is selling drugs good? is killing good? no.
So why don't you believe me? We can't grow forever? Then we CAN grow well into the foreseeable future. Or would you tell Adam and Eve they can't have any children, because eventually they would multiply into the billions?
The world is a small place? Your opinion. I say the world is a huge place.
Do we, or do we not, have rights as individuals? Or are you owned by the state? Parents do in fact, have a right to have "unlimited" children, and also the duty to love and provide for them
People can't have unlimited freedom? We can't allow things that are supposedly harmful for a majority of people? Oh really? How do I know that you aren't a threat to society? You have able-bodied hands? How do I know you won't pick up a rock and hurt somebody? Maybe we had better lock you up in a cage? See how ridiculous that sounds? And yet a guy is going to damage the world with his blunt penis, by impregnating his eager wife? Why won't you respect their rights and leave them be?
What part aren't you understanding? So the world is "small" in your view? That doesn't prove at all, that billions more couldn't somehow fit. Parents have a very long list of great and compelling reasons to have as many children as they do. Denying that right, would be very harmful, to a "vast majority of people." We can find or make plenty of places for more people, by allowing the world to naturally populate denser and denser.
Contraceptives had side effects that damage people.
Who's promoting the selling of harmful drugs? I criticize Big Pharma for pushing too many pills, especially for pushing their shoddy unnatural contraceptive potions and poisons
Family size was mostly thought "uncontrollable" and uncontrolled, before "the pill" of 1960. Sure, world pop has more than doubled since then, but so what? We ADAPTED. People weren't expected to use contraceptives, they have "choice" to refuse to tamper with their fertility, did they not? We still have rights
If there must be control sooner or later, that only proves that we are near the biblical endtimes then.
We can't grow forever? Yeah, the baby inside the womb, a few days or weeks away from being born, might think that too? Womb used to be so spacious, now he or she can hardly move, having grown so big. But the baby so big for the womb, about to outgrow it, is still quite small for surviving outside the womb. Fortunately, the baby has no choice really-his or her growth is unstoppable
What's this I see? You are losing the debate, so in frustration, you resort to calling me unjustified names?
I'm no "troll," I'm a devout believer. Should it surprise you, that on an "Overpop" thread, that people would comment, that they oppose both pop "control" of humans, and have issues against the unnatural contraceptives?
I do not believe India and China have "too many" people, for some countries need to have very high pop, in order that 7 billion+ people can live.
The most overpopulated regions are the rich ones as the multiplication of consumption per capita and population are the priority factors for impact on the planet. 7 billion is too many, the best way to reach a sustainable population is education of the problem and the solution which is free voluntary contraception to all, rich and poor alike.
Watch "overconsumpulation" or "one planet one child "for more info.
CHINAS IS STILL GROWING THERES NO STOPPING POP EVEN WITH ONE CHILD POLICY, THEY ARE NOW 1,3 BILLION CHINA AND INDIA SPECIALLY SHOULD START NOT HAVING CHILDREN OR FACE CONSEQUENCES OF FAMINE AN DEATH ITS AS SIMPLE AS IT, LOGIC AND NATURE SAY SO
How stupid can Indians be to actually celebrate their one billionth person in their population. Surely they are setting themselves up for the worlds largest pandemic. I will shed no tears for them when it happens. Any pop. that does little more than brreed and eat is worse than animals. I forgot, breed, steal and eat. That sums it up
ASIANS AND INDIANS MUST BE DESEXED BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW STUPID THEY ARE, THE ONLY WAY THESE 3RD WORLD TRASH WILL STOP BREEDING IS IF THEY HAD THERE BALLS CHOPPED OFF
sent me a very disturbing private message this morning. please view it on my profile hes a disgusting child predator who fools no one at all. are my children safe? are yours? when will the authorities do something about him what wait for him to actually abuse a child?, its a fucking disgrace people like this live with us.
sent me a very disturbing private message this morning. please view it on my profile hes a disgusting child predator who fools no one at all. are my children safe? are yours? when will the authorities do something about him what wait for him to actually abuse a child?, its a fucking disgrace people like this live with us
@limoboss6242 shut up idiot, atleast we dont over breed and spill over to other peoples countries, ok u wanna over breed thats fine, but stay in ur overpopulated country
@limoboss6242 yeh ur country is full rite? u have no toilets so u discusting people shit on the streets, to many people = food shortage= lack of water well as u know in here (australia) we dont like u people, so take ur dick and shove it up ur ass u over breeding stupid twit
@the124Lscania - We don't shit on the streets! I am not inclined to stick my dick up my ass, it's big enough
I'll admit to reach there, however I would much rather have intercourse and let my sperm flow freely
so as to create human life, the ultimate of human purpose. Why are you so angry at people who naturally
procreate? You better get used to it, because world population is growing, we are breeding like rabbits and we are spreading out, Australia needs more people, we will help you!!
@the124Lscania - We don't shit on the streets! I am not inclined to stick my dick up my ass, it's big enough
I'll admit to reach there, however I would much rather have intercourse and let my sperm flow freely
so as to create human life, the ultimate of human purpose. Why are you so angry at people who naturally
procreate? You better get used to it, because world population is growing, we are breeding like rabbits and we are spreading out, Australia needs more people, we will help you!!
China is too big to be overpopulation, hell, it all propaganda BS , cuz look, the human density status shows that China is only in the mid-high range. Simply China is just too big.
Yes, the problem is China will add another 250 million to it's population by 2030, before stabilizing. Because there are so many more women in the child-bearing years, 1-child per family is like the US have 4 or 5 children per family. Figure about 300 million (or our population) of Chinese women in the reproductive years. We have about a quarter of that.
@roar007, and that 250 is only in china. The Chinese who leave china pro-create at a much higher rate than their brothers and sisters in their homeland so that 250 is just a tip of the iceberg. India and China are criminal in their population numbers and should learn to control their breeding.
India and China? Please... Here are some population growth rate stats from a UN report, (also available on wikipedia): China, 0.58%, India, 1.69%, both of which are not far from US rate of 0.97%, while African countries, 2.5 - 4.5%. At these rates, it takes 45 and 125 years for India and China to double in population, while only between 15 - 30 years for African countries.
here is the solution. stop fucking making so many babies!
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Weren't you a baby, not so long ago?
That's no solution, for if people had fewer babies, there would be less people alive to benefit.
Even liberals say "You can't stop people from having sex." But what happens when the people misled by the rampant contraceptive pushing, wisen up and find either practical or "religious" objections to use of any means of "birth control?" And yet we still want our "unlimited" sex? Obviously, so many families are going to grow BIG.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist I don't need to be einstein to know how to fix that problem, I think every human being knows a way , because we're not stupid. so sometimes one needs to go to the extremes, rather that then war. and I think many would agree, however there's probably a lot better ways of solving the problem ,just that people are ego and only think about themselfs. they rather want a baby and let war begin then to wait until it's calmed down alittle, or make a rule like only 2 kids / family.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
It's not just people thinking of themselves, but surely parents reproduce, also for the good of their children, who can then also enjoy existing.
Birthing babies is just as proper and natural, as the beating heart, or breathing. It's a natural life process.
Parents don't need to wait until pop growth "calms" down a little, but rather, baby booms tend to be "contagious," awakening yearnings in ever more people, to procreate babies.
Build stuff to hold more people.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist people are just gotta keep growing in population and to let it keep on happening, wont solve any problems, will probably just lead to war. because people will start taking land because they dont have enough of their own.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
I'm glad you think people will keep on growing in pop. I sure hope so. I really do hope people are wise enough to reject the rampant contraceptives pushing and find their practical or "religious" objections to "birth control."
What land will they take? Underutilized land wasted on wildlife refuges and other unproductive uses? I already advocate more places with lots of people and fewer places far from lots of people. We need a denser planet to make place for all.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
The common people aren't the ones who make the wars. It's now the New World Order criminal elites, who manipulate the economies against the poor, spread poverty, and then scheme to murder the poor for the "sin" of being poor.
Think about it. Most people don't want to take their neighbor's land. They just want their own little place. But evil govs deny people any claim to land, and bulldoze their shanties. Without land rights, how can they build way out of poverty?
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist I'm not pointing any fingers, and just saying that if there is a crisis then by all means, make some useful laws then to start a war because that is what is going to happen if not. isn't that obvious? if you dont have enough land for your people, there will be war and they will take land with force (war)
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
I thought you said that people just gotta keep on growing in pop. If so, then doesn't that suggest that pop is "out of control" or "beyond control," or at least "meant to grow" by God? I have long advocated large families worldwide, for even people in "crowded" conditions want to live and come alive and be born. So "birth control" is no solution to "overcrowding" for life is far more important than open space.
Free up land for human habitation, let pop spread freely
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
It is wrong to blame people for having babies, when having babies is natural, and poverty is caused by corrupt govs and their fiat paper currency dishonest money, not caused by natural large families.
Hitler was wrong. Countries don't need lebensraum (living space) to grow pop, for world pop has tripled since WW2 without adding more land. Countries instead grew denser.
We can increase numbers by allowing people live and procreate in closer proximity on global scale
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Look at the evidence. Crowded conditions do not send people to war. People continue to multiply in crowded conditions, for babies were conceived on the Mayflower and in concentration camps, no matter that there was nowhere to be alone for marital relations (sex). Wars are now caused by New World Order criminal elitists, who have a clearly documented depop agenda.
3 perceptional dimensions yet to grow into: Outwards, inwards, upwards. Ample room to keep on growing.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Why isn't it more obvious, that to oppose people without sufficient cause, is wrong? If pop growth is taking hold across the planet, then let it. Sometimes nature has to take its course, but I disagree that that means something "bad" for people.
Let cities fill up with people, build more cities, let the new cities fill up, and build yet more suburbs upon suburbs, and build still more cities. People need the jobs anyway
If pops grow too dense, design for denser pops
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist the planet wont get bigger cause we keep growing in size.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
I know the planet isn't getting any bigger, so that's a reason I have been so long harping to allow world pop to grow denser and denser. By allowing world pop density to rise, we can find, or make, ample room for everybody and their progeny, and people can go on enjoying their precious darling babies, and families can go on growing naturally, as large as ever.
Let people live most anywhere they want. Where can we put more billions? Where we always have, in between
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Where can we put more billions? Where we always have, in between all the people already living.
How can parents enjoy having their precious darling babies, in a world of so many people already? Simple. There can come to be more places with lots of people and fewer places far from lots of people.
Use technology and development to make way for lots more people.
We may only be talking a few more billions, but if more come, we can ADAPT to that too.
Let babies happen
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist technology can go screw itself, just making ourselfs more useless the more we have.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Technology is a tool, that can be used for good or bad. Certainly, to make way for growing human pops, is one of the most ideal uses for technology, and I have long thought that pop growth is a big factor in driving forward technology. So technology would seem to be among natural pop self-accomodation factors.
How long can we keep growing in size? For as long as God allows. How long can Eve's pregnant belly keep growing? If 1st pregnancy in the world, who knows?
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
You don't like technology? What? Are you Amish? And yet you are using a computer?
Who do you think it should be, barging into people's bedrooms, to make sure they don't procreate "too many" babies? You? Me? Gov? Gov can't be trusted to do much of anything right. "Gov governs best which governs least." Didn't Thomas Jefferson say that?
I'm not going to make any effort to convince people to have smaller families, for I like BIG families.
I don't think you want to.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
I don't believe humans were designed to use any method of "birth control." Why do we have such a bewildering array of nasty contraceptives? Because every method is shoddy, so they invent yet another shoddy method?
God didn't design people to use contraceptives, but to Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. I agree with encouraging families everywhere, to let their babies push out unhindered, without using any means of "birth control."
But then let pop grow.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist I don't think god created this imperfect universe, I think that's the other one who did that. I'm not religious or an atheist, im a truthist. I don't really have time to explain all that but, there's plenty of information about that out there if you're interested.
I still stick with what I've said, cause that makes alot of sense to me. However you do what you want, everyone does, even if it's crazy.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Why do we have crazy videos, calling for worldwide "birth control," when we have buildings and obelisks shaped to be phallic symbols? Seems a little inconsistent, don't you think?
The icon for the video, the overcrowded train, can be explained. It's not really a symbol of "overpop" at all, but what happens when gov hinders the economy. I heard somewhere, if private business buses were allowed to compete with gov, and charge a little more for uncrowded buses ...
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
, ... buses wouldn't be so crowded. I presume that could apply to trains too. If they would just run more buses and trains.
What "other one?" The devil was created by God. So why would the devil create the universe? The Bible says it is God, or Jesus, who created the world. The earth is the Lord's (Psalm 24: 1).
You are a "truthist?" Define? I haven't heard that term? Or do you mean a "truther?" Truthers say that 9-11 was an inside job, or official gov story is lie
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist truthist. just re-search about the goverment with and open mind and you'll be able to see through their lies, cause when you come that far, you start seing different versions coming from the same people of the same groups, and it's kinda hard to not see the truth then. there's so much cover-ups going on with aliens and the goverment. basic truth would be truthism(dot)com after that follow the links below and this is just the basics and it's ALOT (dont forget the links below after!)
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Website is indeed crap. What? A hollow earth? Center of gravity only 400 miles down? If you were on the inside shell, "upside down," where would the gravity be? Summing up gravity from all "above shell" points by calculus, would pretty much cancel out gravity, in there was no earth "further down." Well unless they lied to us also, about the nature of gravity, and gravity diminishes even faster than the inverse square of the distance?
Humans created by aliens? False.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist gravity can be used to bend time and space, just that the masses are completely unaware of this, because they already decided that they "know" the truth and wont accept this real raw truth, because they've been brainwashed their entire lifes to believe in lies. the so called "real world" that people calls this, is totally anti-truth.
because that's how it's all setup before we even got here. ppl are getting brainwashed right before your eyes, and amazingly most dont see it.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@pronatalist illusions is also a big part of it, to keep us in anti-truth. there's far greater things that exists than most could even imagen going on out there, truth is stranger than fiction.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Oh, come on, gov is probably hiding technology we could use right now, but gov doesn't have "technology from future aliens." Bend time and space? What is that? Star Trek "warp drive?"
World is ruled by a very small and dangerous minority, not by the voters as we are led to believe.
Other night, on Coast To Coast radio, they were talking fascinating "free energy" stuff, right around the corner. Piezo effect chips on microscopic scale - cellphones never need charging
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist yeah, ofc they are, who knows how far they've come with technology, but it's from the help of aliens that they have the advanced technolgy, the trade with em. and these aliens they are trading with are not the "good guys" really.
movies is a form of brainwashing too, so I see why I brought that up. people watch too much movies and television these days. listen to the media and accept it as truth, it's why people stay in ignorance, because they think they already know the answers.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@pronatalist oh, I didn't know that "coast to coast radio". however we do have telepathic abilties that needs to be awakened, then we wouldnt need a phone. and we'd be free to commuicate with anyone anywhere, even on the astral planes with the speed of thought.
human beings aren't really that smart actually, since alot of animals already communicate with telepathy as collective conciousness, just that humans need to bring this out in the open and find someone who can teach it.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Imagine cars that run continuously for 6 months, on a replaceable component that cost $30.
Powers that be, do not want us having "free energy" without cost, unmetered, because it levels the playing field. Without them manufacturing phony scarcity, how do they stay in control?
I long suspected such technology IS possible, but how much it has been invented and explored, is still not well known to public. So how are they planning to shut it down? Too many people know?
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist check this one out with bob lazar and his car: watch?v=LOGgUe72XHI
not sure really, re-search it. my eyes are starting to shut down and seing things cloudy, it's 00:43 here and I gotta sleep now, but it was nice talking to you :), to be continued later if you want.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Imagine the poor, being able to drive for as far as they want, without having to buy fuel. Think that might change things? Come to think of it, could that be a reason evil politicians have been toying with idea of taxing us by GPS mile in addition to fuel taxes?
It's not alien technology. Some of the technology is probably coming from fallen angels, demons, helping evil people to invent ever more ways to kill people.
Problem with TV, people watch too passively.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist fast answer here, since your comment just popped up when I finished mine. ever thought, that aliens are angels and demons, it's a possibility, shouldn't let your physical eyes tell you what's beneath.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
I told you "Coast to Coast," because you probably can find a podcast website, if you want to hear it.
What evidence is there of telepathy? If so, that's after the resurrection, some spiritual thing. What I suspect people may have that's now dormant, is a "compass" in their brain. Don't animals navigate by built-in compass, and probably memory too? People didn't long have great maps and GPS, so people may have been able to "sense" direction a whole lot better in past
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist lol popped up agian ok, but now I really gotta go after this ^^.
well, once you've experianced psychic abilities, you won't doubt it anymore.
learn-psychic-powers(dot)com is a nice little site to start with, to get some understanding on how it works, just small part, try astral projecting and clairvoyance to begin with and psyhic self-defense for incoming negative emotions/thoughts and other forms of energys.
cya later.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Okay, I just watched your video link. Interesting. I have usually scoffed at hydrogen, because it's not an ideal fuel, we can't drill for it, nor store it easily. And it's usually presented as an alternative to the oil drilling we so much need. But if enough technical issues are solved, then it could be a real answer to foreign oil monopoly and our own unwillingness to liberate our own oil resource.
Most "running my car on hydrogen device" videos are crap.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
One of the reasons why "green" or "renewable" energy of solar, is such crap, is because not only is solar too expensive, but it can't produce the energy when it is needed, and storing the energy has been near impossible.
A daydream, but because I am not an engineer nor a tinkerer, how can I possibly build it? What if your harder-working-in-summer solar panels, worked all summer, working whenever the sun shines, manufacturing propane for winter when there's less sun?
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
What can't you run on propane? Heat, air conditioning, camper refrigerator. Even generators can run on propane.
I figure you'd need more fuel oil, for your oil furnace, or more propane, during the winter when it's so cold. The ant in the children's fable, worked hard all summer to get ready for winter, while the lazy grasshopper played. Why can't a machine work for you throughout summer?
Propane is merely hydrocarbons. Hydrogen from water. Carbon, from where? Air?
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
So what's the missing component to artificially synthesize propane? How about ENERGY. If we have all summer to fill that big propane tank, to last all winter, then the solar panels might actually have time to gather enough energy to do the work, and the machine "sleeps" at night and on cloudy days, due to lack of input energy. The weaknesses of the 2 technologies, combine to form a useful strength. Providing handy storage for variable energy gathering from nature.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist oh and if you wanna keep talking send me a private message instead as answer :) will be easier to follow up, then to make 20 comments in a row :) since amount of letters are so limited here. have a nice day, I'll talk to you later I guess then :)
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
TV watching just sucks the intelligence out of you. People watch too passively, making TV all the easier, a communist brainwashing tool. Proper way to watch TV, is don't watch too much, and be more selective what you watch. Don't watch passively, but talk to the TV, argue with it, call it a liar, because it is a liar. News gets more and more outrageous, people who seek truth and pay attention, know sometimes when story is too bizarre to happened as they claim.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist Kill your god, kill your tv :) I don't know where remember that line from but I think it was from a song, it is true, I agree with you, people watch movies and see aliens for an example and suddenly they dont think aliens cant be real, cause they same em in a movie.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Oh, I believe a lot of the conspiracy theories, but they need stories and evidence that make sense, not just some old legend false religion crap.
The human moon landings were probably faked. Look at the documentaries and see the classic signs of gov coverup.
Gov may already have "free energy" and flying saucers they are hiding from us. And then they crush our economy under runaway taxes and "environmental" regulations, when they are hiding the better technologies?
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist truthism is not a religion, it's just truth, it doesn't have a name really. it's just what it is.
yeah I do agre the moon landing looked very faked.
they do have space travelling vehicles they've had that since around 1970's if I remember it correctly.
don't look at the government as friends, they keep this from us, that makes them the opposite of friends. they dont care about us, so dont expect to get anything from them, gotta use your own mind and re-search, and never quit.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Many problems with the moon landing account, can be easily explained away. Flag blowing in wind, is due to momentum of the flag placement, without air to dampen movement, or so claimed Mythbusters. They also did "footprint" experiment in vacuum" with dust similar to moon dust. Water moisture is not needed to hold footprint.
But they did not have 6-foot lead shield against Van Allen belt radiation. Moon temperature extremes would have destroyed camera film.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Problems were found with the lighting of the set, and shadows that go in different directions.
Why is the astronaut so well lit up, in the shadow of the lunar lander? Maybe that can be explained, by light reflected from moon surface, which would not reflect at the right angle, to light up shadows on the moon's surface.
Political expediency explains landing fakery motive. JFK may truly not have known, that scientists were nowhere near prepared to send people to moon
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist I think there's actually a video here on youtube about the faked moonlanding so, I think I saw it here before, must of been a year ago atleast but I think it's still up.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Watch some of the great videos about HAARP and chem-trails (Chemtrails What in the world are they spraying?), then tell me how many "natural disasters," bad weather, and "acts of God" might actually be man's mischief or "false flags" or acts of war against other countries? What are they doing to our (GMO) food?
Watched a video about the Great Deluge (Noah's Ark), got ideas they had more technology than we have been told, and maybe man cracked earth, released waters?
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist user "humanswin" got some nice videos that I think you might be interested in, unless I've mentioned that last time. I myself am a truthist and I agree with every bit of what truthism(dot)com explain when it comes to where we are and who we are. there's links below that too, that leads you to more information, if you're interested in reading about it ofcourse.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
I can't prove that theory. Just put some pieces of the puzzle together, and the picture that emerges, may differ strangely from the revised his-story propaganda that we have been taught all our lives.
So maybe such a major "act of God," wasn't done by God, but God knew it was coming, let it happened, and warned well-in-advance his faithful followers, Noah and his family?
Don't just read about Noah in Genesis. The account in the Book of Jasher is so much more vivid.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
One of the dangers of "Coast To Coast," is that they talk too much about aliens, and UFO crap. But it's worth listening to, because they are into all that weird crap, they get into conspiracy theory stuff too, which is well worth hearing. Often very good experts and authors, who say things that deviate from the official lies of gov.
Psychic and similar topics, are pretty much forbidden in the Bible, so dabbling in the occult could be a dangerous snare. Seek truth.
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist yeah, I agree I can sit for hours and listen to people discuss about aliens and ufos, aspecially hidden technology from the masses and aliens, doesn't get much more interesting than that. I never listend to "coast to coast" so I do not know, I'll have to look that one up today when I get home from work, if I remember it. psychic abilities are natrual, it's the negative energy that can be used for evil like mind control. however you can use it to make people feel good as well.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@pronatalist oh and I do believe the spirit is energy and emotions power the energy, the stronger the emotion the more powerful spirit. however you might not agree on this, but we're really just exchanging knowledge so, even though my english is alittle rusty :) I hope you manage ^^. after all we're not in grammar class ^^. you wrote so much now that I won't even have time to reply to all of it right now. but it's interesting what you had to say about "propane" It sounds correct to me.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
No, spirit is not simply energy. Computers have energy, but no spirit.
God breathed life into Adam, and he became a living soul. He didn't receive a soul, but he was a living soul.
Babies don't "receive" a soul, on some magic day long after their conception. No, I think right from moment of conception, the soul "energy" or whatever you want to call it, SPREADS. This could be profound reason for Onan, or for all people, to not spill their seed, but let life happen!
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
I don't consider myself "better" than my children, so I should not create obstacles to their conception. Of course, I would expect for children to do their chores, especially in "uncontrolled" natural large families, and help the parents out to run the family for the good of all. I want my children to know just how much they are wanted, in knowing that their parents do not practice any form of "birth control," because more children are always welcome,should God allow
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
Did you get my PM to you? But the pop issue, I wish to discuss in public, so that anybody can read, or jump in and say something, if they have anything to contribute.
I don't advocate that people procreate willy-nilly, giving it no thought, nor being careless. Obviously, the natural human reproduction is a potent mighty force of nature, able even to change the ecology of the planet. But used wisely and morally, and using technology for denser pops, it's a GOOD force
pronatalist 1 month ago
@TheEXpothead
People just don't seem to understand that human pop growth is self-sustaining. Most all jobs somehow alter nature to better support more people, for most all productive jobs serve people in some way. That's a practical reason I do not believe in either imposing pop "control" upon people, nor use of any means of "birth control." World pop has grown so "huge," because that's what it was DESIGNED to do
We should respect our reproductive rhythms,by letting babies happen
pronatalist 1 month ago
@pronatalist oh and, you can always build boats and put em in the see, how long can we keep growing in size? not long, am I the only realizing this as something completely obvious.
TheEXpothead 1 month ago
Wow. This pronatalist is pretty unintelligent...
theonlyfrankito 2 months ago
India is the world's dirtiest country!
People with as much garbage.
YangChaoFan0204 3 months ago
I wonder why people are so against the one child policy, but they don`t care about starvation and poverty in the world !
vitor2009ization 4 months ago
We're not running out of space for people. We have plenty of space and resources. We just need to learn how to better organize the race and share. Which is entirely impossible without world domination by a GOOD power. Our race is too greedy and will not be aloud to move on to start travel. We have already lost the chances.
ColeFried81 4 months ago
the indians dont want to ear us about not having kidfs or condoms, dumb fucks their economy will always go down, more people less food less jobs in medium size country, they are fucke and not even a first class world country, they simply dont give shit
ukusapillage 4 months ago
just india has more pop then america and europe together, india 1 billion ppl europe america about 800 million
ukusapillage 4 months ago
people of the poor countries who have 6 and 7 children each couple are obviously at fault and totally insane unsustainable stuff, no matter what people say. India and China alone (not together) have more population than europe and america together. Bangla desh has more population than russia and is like 1000 times smaller. Cmon, just get real
nixxxon18 5 months ago
@nixxxon18
Humans have right and ought to be encouraged to enjoy, the full natural birthrate unrestrained. Nobody is to blame for pop growing so "huge," for it is the nature of people, and of nature, to spread (human) life into most every niche available. The 7th child is worth just as much, is just as precious, as the 1st child. Many people find great and compelling reasons to reject all forms of "birth control," and definitely we should never impose pop "control" upon people. Let babies come!
pronatalist 3 months ago
@pronatalist you are stupid and so is your username.
In a limited world, we can't fucking grow the poupulation in unlimited numbers. FACT. The overpopulation will be the main problem of our planet in this upcoming century. Not enough food or resources for everyone
nixxxon18 3 months ago
@nixxxon18
Oh yes we can allow "huge" human pops to grow naturally in "unlimited" numbers. Families can remain large even in today's populous world.
How can parents enjoy having their precious darling babies, in a world of so many people alive already? Isn't it obvious? Grow denser. Simply let world pop density rise along with our natural increase. Then everybody and their progeny can still all fit. Where can we put more billions? Where we always have. In between all the people already living.
pronatalist 3 months ago
@nixxxon18
Why do you mock my username? Did you really think that in today's populous world of they claim, 7 billion, nobody could possibly still be naturally pronatalist? Of course there's still people who agree with and welcome the natural spread of human life unhindered.
What could be more NATURAL than the natural increase of humanity?
There can simply come to be more places with lots of people, and fewer places far from lots of people.
Plenty of food, resources, but NWO tries to end that
pronatalist 3 months ago
@nixxxon18
So is India and China also similarly "stupid" for letting their pops grow naturally so "huge?" I think not, because more and more people would be glad to live. Having highly populated and dense countries, is doing their part to help the human race spread and the planet to hold more people than ever
What was stupid is the NWO pop "control" creeps who think such a mighty "force of nature" that human reproductions is perhaps fast becoming, can or should be "controlled." Let us grow wild
pronatalist 3 months ago
@nixxxon18
Even if you and I didn't have any children, wouldn't the other billions of people still naturally procreate? So pop would still grow. A more pronatalist attitude helps insure that rather than squandering resources fighting nature, that we more readily ADAPT to the natural pop growth that may soon prove quite unstoppable anyway.
Somebody has to warn the people about side effects of shoddy contraceptive potions and poisons. Somebody has to defend the responsible naturally-big families
pronatalist 3 months ago
@pronatalist not sure if troll or really really retarded
What are the benefits of this uncontrolled growing?? NONE, just shut up and stop acting shamefully, now.
nixxxon18 3 months ago
@nixxxon18
Neither one. Why would you think that? My username, Pronatalist, shows my persuasion and emphasis already. So I am no troll, but I already favor the natural increase, consistent with my prolife beliefs. Not "retarded" either. I'm very highly educated, I do much reading and thinking, and I've given much thought to my beliefs and how to promote them.
Not all of nature was meant to be "controlled," and allowing humanity to spread naturally, allows far more people to experience life.
pronatalist 3 months ago
@nixxxon18
"Controlled" growing, probably means something like "Zero Pop Growth," which is TYRANNY, not individual freedom at all. You must ask the embarrassing questions the evil NWO doesn't want you asking. Such as "Well who then will be doing the 'controlling'?"
It's still under some sort of "control" but then God's control, or in man's terms, free to grow "wild." It takes time to grow, and I find that sufficient "control" for my purposes, allowing mankind ample time to prepare and ADAPT.
pronatalist 3 months ago
@nixxxon18
The poverty of India is not caused by large families, but poverty does encourage more families to grow large. But there are better reasons to grow large, than just distractions from being poor.
Ever hear of the Utilitarian Principle? Says that often the best thing to do is that which most benefits the most people. I am not alone in noticing that implies pop GROWTH, for some website also remarked about that implication. When pop is allowed to expand, more people benefit from whatever
pronatalist 3 months ago
@nixxxon18
Of course, another cool benefit of "uncontrolled" growing, is that no means of "birth control" is needed, nor is there any use for deception or coercion to try to curb the natural family size. It's far more simple and elegant, to welcome babies to happen as they happen, as worked so well for our ancestors.
A more pronatalist society, does not occur in a vacuum, and so it's likely to be a lot more family-friendly, and it will "crowd out" things bad for families, such as high taxes.
pronatalist 3 months ago
@pronatalist lol everything you say is bullshit. As i said, we can't grow forever. There MUST be control sooner or later, its not about tyranny or freedom its about having common sense. The world is a small place for us all, and people cant have unlimited freedom either. You also confuse freedom to Libertine. You have freedom althoug it is limited as you can't do anything that is harmful for a vas majority of people. Is stealing good? is selling drugs good? is killing good? no.
nixxxon18 3 months ago
@nixxxon18
So why don't you believe me? We can't grow forever? Then we CAN grow well into the foreseeable future. Or would you tell Adam and Eve they can't have any children, because eventually they would multiply into the billions?
The world is a small place? Your opinion. I say the world is a huge place.
Do we, or do we not, have rights as individuals? Or are you owned by the state? Parents do in fact, have a right to have "unlimited" children, and also the duty to love and provide for them
pronatalist 2 months ago
@nixxxon18
People can't have unlimited freedom? We can't allow things that are supposedly harmful for a majority of people? Oh really? How do I know that you aren't a threat to society? You have able-bodied hands? How do I know you won't pick up a rock and hurt somebody? Maybe we had better lock you up in a cage? See how ridiculous that sounds? And yet a guy is going to damage the world with his blunt penis, by impregnating his eager wife? Why won't you respect their rights and leave them be?
pronatalist 2 months ago
@nixxxon18
What part aren't you understanding? So the world is "small" in your view? That doesn't prove at all, that billions more couldn't somehow fit. Parents have a very long list of great and compelling reasons to have as many children as they do. Denying that right, would be very harmful, to a "vast majority of people." We can find or make plenty of places for more people, by allowing the world to naturally populate denser and denser.
Contraceptives had side effects that damage people.
pronatalist 2 months ago
@nixxxon18
Who's promoting the selling of harmful drugs? I criticize Big Pharma for pushing too many pills, especially for pushing their shoddy unnatural contraceptive potions and poisons
Family size was mostly thought "uncontrollable" and uncontrolled, before "the pill" of 1960. Sure, world pop has more than doubled since then, but so what? We ADAPTED. People weren't expected to use contraceptives, they have "choice" to refuse to tamper with their fertility, did they not? We still have rights
pronatalist 2 months ago
@nixxxon18
If there must be control sooner or later, that only proves that we are near the biblical endtimes then.
We can't grow forever? Yeah, the baby inside the womb, a few days or weeks away from being born, might think that too? Womb used to be so spacious, now he or she can hardly move, having grown so big. But the baby so big for the womb, about to outgrow it, is still quite small for surviving outside the womb. Fortunately, the baby has no choice really-his or her growth is unstoppable
pronatalist 2 months ago
@pronatalist you're a troll, i should have realised earlier. Wont argue anymore, bye
nixxxon18 2 months ago
@nixxxon18
What's this I see? You are losing the debate, so in frustration, you resort to calling me unjustified names?
I'm no "troll," I'm a devout believer. Should it surprise you, that on an "Overpop" thread, that people would comment, that they oppose both pop "control" of humans, and have issues against the unnatural contraceptives?
I do not believe India and China have "too many" people, for some countries need to have very high pop, in order that 7 billion+ people can live.
pronatalist 2 months ago
@pronatalist im not losing anything, i cancel the debate because im not having a debate with trolls
nixxxon18 2 months ago
there is no population problem, we just need more condoms.
SpicyHam 5 months ago
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If Those asian and muslim idiots continue to grow like termites,we're all going to hell.
"you know China has a onechild policy, it's population is going to decline in 2030 so it's not that big of a problem"
Oh,don't give me that bullshit.
1.Yeah,China MAINLAND has that policy.The rest of them around the world breed like rats.
2. 2030. ? Oh,now I'm relieved,knowing that by the time they reach 2 billion,they're gonna start declining.Whoopdeedoo...
Bonehead.
didi89s 6 months ago
A solution to the overpopulation problem
google
thecircleforhumanity . net , not like chinas 1 child policie
we can be the solution and no longer the problem
flyandbee123 6 months ago
The most overpopulated regions are the rich ones as the multiplication of consumption per capita and population are the priority factors for impact on the planet. 7 billion is too many, the best way to reach a sustainable population is education of the problem and the solution which is free voluntary contraception to all, rich and poor alike.
Watch "overconsumpulation" or "one planet one child "for more info.
phillips78 7 months ago
CHINAS IS STILL GROWING THERES NO STOPPING POP EVEN WITH ONE CHILD POLICY, THEY ARE NOW 1,3 BILLION CHINA AND INDIA SPECIALLY SHOULD START NOT HAVING CHILDREN OR FACE CONSEQUENCES OF FAMINE AN DEATH ITS AS SIMPLE AS IT, LOGIC AND NATURE SAY SO
ukusapillage 7 months ago
@ukusapillage AMEN! BRAVO! YOU ROCK!
mphello 7 months ago
All overpopulation-deniers should be crammed into prison for life, since they LOVE being crowded to death.
mphello 8 months ago
Such hatred- Why can't everyone get along and just f**k!!
limoboss6242 11 months ago 2
@the124lscania- Did you get scared? We may be coming to your country and
start populating it with our kind!! Lots of us breeding like locusts. filling every
empty space with population!!!
limoboss6242 11 months ago
How stupid can Indians be to actually celebrate their one billionth person in their population. Surely they are setting themselves up for the worlds largest pandemic. I will shed no tears for them when it happens. Any pop. that does little more than brreed and eat is worse than animals. I forgot, breed, steal and eat. That sums it up
germaniajim 1 year ago
@germaniajim - We like to breed, don"t you? We will take over one day.
limoboss6242 11 months ago
@limoboss6242 and what will you eat?
germaniajim 11 months ago
ASIANS AND INDIANS MUST BE DESEXED BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ANY IDEA HOW STUPID THEY ARE, THE ONLY WAY THESE 3RD WORLD TRASH WILL STOP BREEDING IS IF THEY HAD THERE BALLS CHOPPED OFF
the124Lscania 1 year ago
@the124Lscania YEAH AND YOU ARE A CUNT
MOHSIN2 1 year ago
@MOHSIN2 YEH? AND I FUCKED UR MUMS SMELLY POOINDAIN PUSSY
the124Lscania 1 year ago
@the124Lscania its disturbing that you like pussys covered in shit but hey whatever floats your bout. oh and f.y.i i am not even asian
MOHSIN2 1 year ago
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@MOHSIN2 ...................The124L scania... .. .................
sent me a very disturbing private message this morning. please view it on my profile hes a disgusting child predator who fools no one at all. are my children safe? are yours? when will the authorities do something about him what wait for him to actually abuse a child?, its a fucking disgrace people like this live with us.
SIRWARMACHINE 1 year ago
@MOHSIN2 oh shut up !! ur not asian, ur a pooindian !! thats the bottom of the human ladder, a trashy 3rd world race like ewwwwwwwwwwwwww
the124Lscania 1 year ago
@the124Lscania
just travel both countries (china and india) and see the diff
i dont know why some ppl keep bashing china for
ZhangMingXuanIsABabe 1 year ago
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@MOHSIN2 ....................The124Lscania......................
sent me a very disturbing private message this morning. please view it on my profile hes a disgusting child predator who fools no one at all. are my children safe? are yours? when will the authorities do something about him what wait for him to actually abuse a child?, its a fucking disgrace people like this live with us
SIRWARMACHINE 1 year ago
@the124Lscania - Would you like your balls chopped off? I bet not. God gave us our penis and balls to
produce!!
limoboss6242 11 months ago
@limoboss6242 shut up idiot, atleast we dont over breed and spill over to other peoples countries, ok u wanna over breed thats fine, but stay in ur overpopulated country
the124Lscania 11 months ago
@the124Lscania - What is overbreeding? We like to have babies, don't you? Making babies is fun, try it,
you might like it!! My country is getting full, we have to move elsewhere to populate other places!!
limoboss6242 11 months ago 2
@limoboss6242 yeh ur country is full rite? u have no toilets so u discusting people shit on the streets, to many people = food shortage= lack of water well as u know in here (australia) we dont like u people, so take ur dick and shove it up ur ass u over breeding stupid twit
the124Lscania 11 months ago
@the124Lscania - We don't shit on the streets! I am not inclined to stick my dick up my ass, it's big enough
I'll admit to reach there, however I would much rather have intercourse and let my sperm flow freely
so as to create human life, the ultimate of human purpose. Why are you so angry at people who naturally
procreate? You better get used to it, because world population is growing, we are breeding like rabbits and we are spreading out, Australia needs more people, we will help you!!
limoboss6242 11 months ago
@the124Lscania - We don't shit on the streets! I am not inclined to stick my dick up my ass, it's big enough
I'll admit to reach there, however I would much rather have intercourse and let my sperm flow freely
so as to create human life, the ultimate of human purpose. Why are you so angry at people who naturally
procreate? You better get used to it, because world population is growing, we are breeding like rabbits and we are spreading out, Australia needs more people, we will help you!!
limoboss6242 11 months ago
@limoboss6242 look we dont like ur people here, u come we bash, simple! ! ! !
the124Lscania 11 months ago
@the124Lscania - You have such hatred for my people, when you come here we do not bash you.
Many white people come to India and we do not bash you. Why you hate us so much, because we enjoy
sex and like to make lots of babies, we are human and humans reproduce, accept it, maybe your country
should have more sex and make babies and be less hateful!!
limoboss6242 11 months ago
@limoboss6242 hes a fat croat, and only thing he bashed was a bag of crisps he couldn't open lmao.
SIRWARMACHINE 11 months ago
@the124Lscania agreed these indians need to decline dramatically, else there will be wars. nobody likes to much of one thing
besmart78 5 months ago
@limoboss6242 you do understand hes a pedophile yes?.
SIRWARMACHINE 11 months ago
@limoboss6242 he has no balls
SIRWARMACHINE 11 months ago
China is too big to be overpopulation, hell, it all propaganda BS , cuz look, the human density status shows that China is only in the mid-high range. Simply China is just too big.
sohandsome 1 year ago
You should start by lobbing off your own balls you worthless fuck
PrometheanRunGood 1 year ago
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indians always give the impression they are religious and moral people yet they have sex and breed like rabbits.
i think a time will come when a nuclear weapon will be the only solution to india's overpopulation. wipe some of these curry eating smelly people out
allaccess100 1 year ago
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Asia naturally has a bigger population because it has a longer history and more successful and continuous civilizations than the west.
And now the west is telling Asia to do this and do that?
To Asia, the west is just one arrogant little infant.
fartherasia 1 year ago
Even if some miracle technology made it possible to redouble world population another time, will the poor be richer? Will everyday life be any better?
Of course not - how could it? There will be more pollution, there will more strain on natural resources and less freedom and life quality.
Pro-lifers confuse quality with quantity. A hundred intelligent people can build a future. A million idiots will create a slum.
flamifer 2 years ago
Dont worry, we will find the way out of overpopulated. When run out of oil, you can turn the black the indians into oil. Bingo, problem solved.
windboy2007 2 years ago
you know China has a onechild policy, it's population is going to decline in 2030 so it's not that big of a problem.
Powa2 4 years ago
Yes, the problem is China will add another 250 million to it's population by 2030, before stabilizing. Because there are so many more women in the child-bearing years, 1-child per family is like the US have 4 or 5 children per family. Figure about 300 million (or our population) of Chinese women in the reproductive years. We have about a quarter of that.
roar007 3 years ago
@roar007, and that 250 is only in china. The Chinese who leave china pro-create at a much higher rate than their brothers and sisters in their homeland so that 250 is just a tip of the iceberg. India and China are criminal in their population numbers and should learn to control their breeding.
controlpopulation 1 year ago
you're obviously a fuckin idiot.
PaynefulThought 3 years ago
@Powa2, Yes. I agree with paynefulthought. You are an idiot.
controlpopulation 1 year ago
India and China? Please... Here are some population growth rate stats from a UN report, (also available on wikipedia): China, 0.58%, India, 1.69%, both of which are not far from US rate of 0.97%, while African countries, 2.5 - 4.5%. At these rates, it takes 45 and 125 years for India and China to double in population, while only between 15 - 30 years for African countries.
badumchh 4 years ago 2
Good job
shepps1984 5 years ago