Nancy Grace:Sept 16 Casey Anthony, Incest Victim?

[jafajax]

well we all know lee is not the father now

[winehouselove]

*Typos.....i hate them:( correction c0-workers not cow-workers what is a cow-worker? my keyboard plays tricks on me sorry and also i ment to say casey would always speak to her co workers but she suddendly stoped and her stomach was visibly large to the point they asked her was she ok but she ignored them so thats when they asked cindy is casey pregnant? cindy replyed ''No that is what blew my mind i was speechless after i read that and hearing cindys own brother say the same thing

[AMTACM]

I know!! It's seriously weird to me! I might try to hide it if my daughter was 15 or 16 but Casey was a GROWN woman! Thousands of women at Casey's age have babies, married or not! In this day and age it's perfectly normal!! So...the question remains...Why did Cindy lie about Casey's pregnancy??? especially from her own family???

[winehouselove]

AMTACM....and not only was casey visibly pregnant in everyones elses mind but cindy and george(according to cindys brother) i read cindy anthonys cow-workers statements in the police reports and according to police reports casey would come in alot to cindys job and see her well she would always seek but during her pregnacy she she would come in and hold her head down she ignored everyone and looked visibly pregnant so they told cindy she responded ''Casey said no shes not pregnant

[luvgosselin]

how can she be caseys brother's child also, i mean if it was true she wouldnt have made it past birth or she would have died in the womb. there is a lot of health problems like m.s mental delays and such, it that was to happen. dont say that unless u have proof.

[AMTACM]

Cindy created ALOT of suspicion by telling her own family (brother, parents) that Casey WAS NOT pregnant. The brother said the Anthony family came to a wedding at his house and Casey was clearly pregnant (like 8 months), yet they still denied it. I don't get WHY Cindy would lie and deny that her grown daughter was pregnant! Cindy herself sets the image in peoples minds that Lee could be the father. That would account for all the secrecy behind a grown woman's pregnancy??

[AMTACM]

There can be problems but not always. How do we know for sure that Lee is George's child? I don't believe Lee is the father but again, why hide a grown woman's pregnancy from your own family??? To weird for me!

[gnrhutch]

Zordon whats our mission? ROTFL

[premedlove3]

I think you should question the family's health history too. Match it to disorders related to incest

[thepiper420]

you people are so sexually repressed that you twist a murder case into some perverted fantasy! Of course Casey is fucking her brother, it wouldn't be an american story without a little incest, get a life.

[blueguise23]

The Countless Paternity Lies given by Sociopaths Cindy and Casey Anthony (both Serial Liars):

1) The father was someone Casey went to hihg school with.

2) The father is deceased and died in a car accident.

3) (Apparently raised from the dead) Cindy then tells us the father is a "married man" who wanted no parts of fatherhood.

4) Then still "raised from the dead" we are told that the father was one of Casey's "one night stands".

5) the father is poor Jesse Grund - NOT.

Lee = father.

[AMTACM]

Casey obviously named Caylee after her and Lee so maybe he is the real father. Maybe this is why the family tried hiding the pregnancy from the world??

[Dapruex]

Something is wrong and it seems that CASEY has something over her Parents heads, because they let her BOSS them around!... in one JailHouse Video George even says to Casey":) ......":Ok honey you are the BOSS, we don't want you to get upset!.)....... that speaks volumes!!" ... (Jd)Canada

[Suzywriter]

Many parents have named a child after one of the parent's siblings. That is called "being named after your aunt/uncle". It is done as a kindness, and has never been an implication of incest.

[blueguise23]

Lee Anthony is the father and uncle of the murdered child. Casey Anthony is a "Somatic Narcissist"/ Sociopath. They use "sex" as a means of manipulation and total control

They sleep with anyone they seek to control. Casey was more than likely sleeping with her puppet brother Lee Anthony.

Cindy Anthony is a "Cerebral Narcissist"/ Sociopath. They use their "brains" to control & manipulate others. Cindy's "grief" is nothing more than a "performance".

Cindy & Casey are MONSTERS.

[graciedector]

I feel pain for Casey and Caylee, they could be so happy mother and daughter,grandparents and uncle, but some issues perhaps money issues, a financial crisis at home, could be the s

[AmericaTops]

It is NOT "sick" to consider the possibility of incest in the family. It is just an idea, a possibility. It can and probably will be TESTED scientifically, and determined to be or not be Lee or George. So don't worry about it! This is a CRIMINAL case. Very interesting video, albatross! I had never seen this one previously! Did you see the eight part Dr. Phil 9/22/08 series on Caylee Anthony? Pretty good.. see what lawyer Nejame admits about the grandparents raising Caylee "as their own!"

[Linzhoops]

I can't believe that people will post such sick videos without any just cause. Is there any DNA evidence to support that George abused Casey, and that Caylee is his daughter, through incest? Eh no! There seems to be plenty of evidence to suggest that Casey has an anti - social personality disorder though.  Also, evidence supports that Casey partied after her baby went missing, she failed to report it for 31 days, and has shown no remorse.

[tears4per]

No wonder that cunt Cindy hates Caysee so much. Cindy looks downright evil to me. I bet she knew that Caysee and George were at ut. You can see Cindy is a horribly jealous vicious cow.

[showmethehoneydamnit]

well i heard you say something abt this a while ago... but now i could see where you have a point. It will be very interesting to see how this ALL pans out. R.I.P. Caylee, babydoll...

burn in hell Casey... YOU BITCH!

[MRPABLOESCOBAR]

Incest.........wow...never crossed my mind....when you think about, it sounds like it can be the answer

[ElectricValkyrie]

Everything about Casey's behaviour seems very much like she is a victim of incest. If you look up information about victim's of incest and their behaviour as adults, she acts like a classic case.

[grainne62]

Yep i would not completely rule anything out when it comes to this family.The issue of the father really comes into question here.Its a question that no member of that family is comfortable with.They are also tip toeing around Casey like she may have something over their head.JMO.

[heavenstruck77]

That is so frickin sick to even think something sick as this!!! i dont think soo

[tiparker119]

Since I have followed this story, I have always thought that the father of this child, Caylee, is Casey brother, Lee..!! She has lied from the beginning about the father, stating that he died in an auto accident, yet she cannot produce an obituary..!! Why was the child named..CayLee...(Casey/Lee)..?­?

[daytodaylife]

I am just now tuning in to this story. Could be that Casey just wanted to name her baby after her two favorite people..herself & her brother whom she probably felt closer to than anyone else. What's up with this incest stuff? Come on that's how so much gossip gets put out there. Who are you albatross and how do you know so much about this case?

[KaraWoman]

This is interesting. Never crossed my mind.

[brandeaux55]

so you think casey is a victim of incest and caylee is a product of casey and lee? so casey is a product of george and his sister??

[albatross234]

Under the circumstances, I think that possibility needs to be eliminated, don't you? Or should the police be urged to not consider it--and just trust the principals?

[littlequeen64]

No,not in this case...........

[albatross234]

/watch?v=-0vFUavy9iU This interview with Greta Van Sestern is the most manipulative interview given by Grandmother Cindy. I would have loved to have heard Greta's off-camera impression of Cindy. Dodging any questions dealing with the case (George doing it also) and just harps on "finding" Caylee.

'm convinced both Cindy And George are performing together---deflecting any and all questions about about the baby's death--which the anthony's knew the first time they went to pick up the car

[repelghosts]

Incest in this matter...please...never happened,will never be entered into evidence...focus, and lets get the slut on death row,A.S.A.P.

[albatross234]

It's clear that Caylee ceased to be loved by her mother, and was just a ball & chain, in her desperate search for a man--Susan Smith, cut from the same cloth, and same motives.

Did you know that Susan Smith was a victim of incest? And it certainly came out in the court--prob. saved her from the death penalty, which she probably would have received. But I think that it came out in sentencing hearing, and not the main trial.

[albatross234]

Jesse's family correctly urged him to take the paternity test, and Casey was furious.....after all her work to set him up, too.

Just what sex partner(s) of Casey's would she be ashamed of? It's too difficult to imagine her wanting to "protect" anyone other than herself. No, it would have to be someone everyone would know, and would stigmatize her as well and the babydaddy. It's just a swab on the cheek, isn't it?. Maybe the lie detector test wasn't the only test the Anthonys refuse to take.

[sukirue]

This is pointless, it causes vicious rumors.

There's no reason to suspect incest, it's just a sick twist people want to throw into the case.

Casey is just nuts, it happens.

Tired of people turning this case into a circus.

[albatross234]

Easily proved/disproved. Caylee looked more like the male Amthonys than her mother, grandmother. Simple paternity test solves it all.

[sukirue]

But why even question it, based on what?? Because the child LOOKS like her own granfather?

That's ridiculous.

Just because someone is messed up mentally doesn't mean they are having sex with a family member.

BTW paternity tests have been done to rule out Jesse, they haven't had a reason to suspect a family memeber.

[stok3d99]

Based on whay, you say? Based on the fact that 'incest' was searched for along with terms like chloroform and neck-breaking. Additionally, male paternity has never been extablished for Caylee. When asked about it in one particular interview, Cindy stuttered and paused before claiming he was now deceased.

Lee or George is the father, I'd bet my ass.

[albatross234]

You'll never win your Miss Marple hat with logic like that, let alone solve a crime!

[sukirue]

Who said I was trying to solve a crime?

At least I don't invent sick theories.

[albatross234]

Would Casey be watching what people are saying about her on yb?

[albatross234]

Incest, whether with Lee oir George, continues to be on the table, regardless of the fake daddy baby recently put on their website.

Instead of staying inside the house avoiding contact, as Casey and Lee do, parents insist on engaging with protesters, egging them on, possibly to gain sympathy. Likely these protesters have been doing what the Anthony's don't do, that is, spent days with search parties, and at least they care. Sidewalks, streets, they're on public property.

[NifterMedia]

You make some good points and there is no question in my mind that Cindy and George know who Caylee's father is, or at least know who Casey told them it is. I also agree that police are taking their time to not only cross the t's and dot the i's in this case, but because there is more to it, meaning that someone else is involved. I have maintained from the start that Lee is in this up to his neck; his behaviour speaks volumes. Incest is certainly a possibility, but may not matter in the end.

[cdee12120]

I have believed incest was a possibility from the go...Cindy is the bread winner in that house..the father is a retired homicide detective...wonder about his past in Ohio... Caylee might be a product of incest..She won't reveal the father or his family...just that he is dead...

[albatross234]

Is Casey a victim of incest, or is she the instigator of incest?

She is highly seductive, gathering men like charms on a charm bracelet. Somewhere along the line she has learned the easiest way to get what she wants was thru men.

Did she seduce her brother, her father, 2 cops? Using them all as objects? Having forbidden sex could be much easier than working,

Did she get rid of her daughter to spite her mother who had just ordered her out of the house?

This case has many aspects to it.

[albatross234]

Tonight's show, had several seconds of George Anthony in it.

What is/was the most noticable feature of Caylee?

*eyes"

Investigators, if you're following, how about a forensic artist opinion?

[bunnyswann77]

this is a vicious rumor. so if a father pays his daughters bills you would think he sleeps with her? that's a nasty thought. disgusting

[albatross234]

I can understand your anger, but it looks like, now with chloroform evidence, someone killed a small toddler. That is more disgusting than incest, agreed?

No tears by anyone (casey cried in courtroom. courtroom tears? Not for the victim. for themselves.)

Using the birthday check present from her grandparents, Tots-mom copied the check routing on a forged check to raid their nursing home funds.

Emptied friends checking account, stole her car (? unclear on that).

(continued)

[albatross234]

No one in that family ever joined in any physical search, yet provoke unnecessarily volunteers that did search. (You can be very sure the volunteers are noticing and resenting their absence.j)

The parents, at the announcment of the DNA, evid. of body, realizing they couldn't refute this, instead started blaming officials as a dodge.

Unloveable Casey's crimes didn't just start recently--hard core crime, using a birthday present to swindle one's aged gdrandparents??? She's blackmailing???

[bunnyswann77]

i think she was taken advantage of in one of those clubs... that's very common. and the girls usually stay quiet in shame because they blame themselves for being there and being drunk and or high and hanging with the wrong crowd

[bunnyswann77]

cindy cried on the 911 initial recording.

i'm not suspecting the family.

i am suspecting one of her new friends.

it has to be someone she cares about a great deal BECAUSE she is protecting someone. it can't be her family ""no one in my whole family is on my side...all they care about is caylee"" i believe her family loved caylee and would not dispose of her like yesterdays trash. it has to be someone disconnected to caylee or she paid some crack head with all the money she stole to help her

[albatross234]

Casey has been stealing, doing petty crimes for a long time. Even when she didn't need money she would scam friends, family.

Who has been picking up the tab?

[rubi6z]

I had thought the same thing, I believe she may have been a victim of rape, or molestation from a famliy member or someone that her parents are to blame for, for not be there for her.

[albatross234]

According to Pedilla (Bounty Hunter) observations, there was no attempt to question Tot-mom by grandparents--she'd just go to her room and get on her computer. Unless they knew everything, they could easily write messages on paper to avoid bugs.

I hope the police don't give up and go for a MS case--there is more here than meets the eye. Tot mom is not the sort to clean up her own messes, like body-burial, dispos;al, but would con someone to do it. Yet she has no criminal record????

[exdiva69]

ive been thru that stuff and had a very dysfunctional family, MUCH worse then hers, and turned out the total opposite of her, its no excuse, people chose the way they live despite any tragedies that befall them. its impossible for me to feel sorry for her in any way!

[666dam63]

What about the US Marine guy she allegedly talked to the night before her arrest. Leonard Padillia (sp?) the first bondsman reported recently, I believe the marines first name is Mark. Anyhow, Leonard said that he is wondering what if anything this guy had to do with her. Maybe it was just a quick blow job, or maybe he helped her dispose of her daughter. Think of the ocean and how dumping the poor little girl there. If done properly, the police could never find her.

[bunnyswann77]

i thought and said in another comment that maybe casey was "taken advantage of" while she was drunk in one of those whore houses i mean clubs ... but being taken advantage of by a family member is a new thought. i never and still don't believe the baby's father is "dead" ... she just might not know who the father is... she definetely is not well mentally. who are you suggesting took advantage of her? it's sad because she is very pretty and that's what "they" look for.

[albatross234]

I don't think the father is dead either. It's just a convenient dodge. She is so much the con, it's easier to picture her being the predator, than the one being taken advantage of, she is so cunning. But incest frequently is a competition against the mother. See wikipedia under "covert incest."

[rpnf1424]

I didn't want to say this, but I am coming to the same conclusion. Like you said, if there is a "family secret" that would explain why the grandparents have offered carte blanche to Casey, because they don't want Casey to talk. Also, I'm thinking that is why Casey was adamant not to give custody to Cindy. It's so tragic, I'm trying not to judge anymore.  Maybe after Casey was thrown out, Caylee was crying to go back to Grandma which made Casey upset.......

[albatross234]

Often in incest households, the girl begins to realize and use her power over her father, and her mother is relegated to 2nd place.