What he says is purely logical and based on his chordal approach. He says D dorian - the C scale starting on D and guided by Dm7 chord tones. And all is simple as that, this rules applies on anything you play. That is why is the master of teaching. You can study Ted Greene etc. but what Jimmy says is to play jazz right from the spot, just with basic knowledge of chords and major scale. Badass! :-)
If you say you can your right and if you say you can't your right. I get what Bruno is conveying. If by now you already managed to learn a multitude of pictures branching off from other scales and shapes your already there. This would be a efficient way for someone to finally get out of pentatonic riffs and new fingerings, new scales and sounds. Sseems easy to modify the major scale. The fancy fingerings is optional once you get your feet wet then I think it get even more interesting.
I've yet to observe a plug for this dvd so I will. It's full of usable content for any player. The chapters are well laid out and the instruction section has this fabulous feature where it allows you to play his instruction at slow speed, not just visually but sonically too...in pitch. After buying 7-8 guitar instruction dvds this was the first one that I completely understood and began playing scales, chords immediately. I highly recommend it! DVD-Jimmy Bruno No Nonsense Jazz Guitar. Good luck!
@theriffmill you're never too old to begin. I didn't begin until later than that. The only time that matters is now. Drop the story of you wish you'd have begun whenever, and begin where you are. Dig in and get busy. And most of all enjoy yourself!
@theriffmill you're never to old to begin. I didn't begin until later than that. The only time that matters is now. Drop the story of you wish you'd have begun whenever, and begin where you are. Dig in and get busy. And most of all enjoy yourself!
I have been taught to be able to play (and read notes on a staff (not tab) a major scale beginning on each finger in any postion so there is really only 4 major scales fingerings.
Does anyone here have 'The Advancing Guitarist'? Some of the scale procedures detailed there and in William Levitt's books seem to be very complex, perhaps for the reasons some of you have cited? Certainly scales on 1 string can help to learn pitches on the fretboard, but all of the crazy fingerings seem to be a bit much; does any other instrument put that much time into the fingering of the same melodic material (that's a real question, because I don't know of one).
i like the way he pokes fun at certain methods.some not all teachers especially in music schools like to make things as complicated as possible.the more classes u take and the more trouble u have the more money and credibility goes to them.as far as fingerings go,some seem to work better for classical guitar. its different when u play with just fingers.i new a guy at college who couldnt play at all.he had everybody doing all these weird methods to cover up the fact that he couldnt play.
@rafapak It's from the DVD: Jimmy Bruno No Nonsense Jazz Guitar. Jimmy is he real deal. The entire dvd is chocked full of musical morsels. Jimmy has a gift for teaching. He had me playing up and down the fretboard the first hour, and I'm a piano player.
You won't learn everything in music and guitar existence but this video tutorial is a great insight and Jimmy has the right attitude. I actually learned quite a bit from this. Its all subjective to what you've been exposed to on your musical journey.
jammriffer, its not just for beginners no! They have a huge selection on MYGUITARGURU (dot) INFO , that will suit all stages from beginner up to more experienced who are looking to hone their skillz. Go check it out, you will ove it.
Perhaps I am missing something because I have never spent time considering fingerings, at least that I am aware of, I know various scales/modes/arpeggios/triads all over the neck and let them run up and down the fretboard, vertically and horizontally. What concept am i missing here? (I'm seriously asking not being sarcastic).
@HendrixcommaMartin - It's often like that with people who are very good at something. Michael Jordan would probably be a lousy basketball teacher, because the things he would assume you should be able to do would only apply to him, Kobe, and Lebron James.
Well said. I don't remember anyone in my formative years telling me that. Lots of modes over chords etc.. But it clicked when a sax player on a gig told me that same thing. Thanks zinnington.
Funny, All while I was studying music,, I learned alot from sax players and piano players too. Bruno is a monsters monster. Great player. Nice to converse with you.
i believe allan holdsworth would disagree. i'd say jazz improv is all based around chords and all chords have a scale/mode counterpart be it e-7b9 phygrian, g13 mixolydian. even c7#9 Hungarian major.
Alan Holdsworth is part of that whole fusion bunch, in my opinion are just trying to prove they're intelectualls through their playing. Knowing modes though helps. Another tool, but, all those Dom7 alterations are just alternate voicings that come out of the given key. E-7b5 = a C7 alt dominate chord coming out of the key of F and all the chords that key generates. Look at Stella by Starlight. Opening changes are basicall C7 blues resolving to Eb finally to Bb. You know your stuff.
yeah, im aware of the alternate voicings and inversions of chords, but just for the sake of simplicity, applying the mixolydian scale to dominate chords is the simplest way to approach it. just like there are alternate voicings, substitutes and inversions there are an almost infinite amount of names you can call large chord extensions, the same way there are an infinite amount of scales with a maj3 and min7. i'm currently studying contemporary music, thanks :)
I'll never argue with simplicity. Sooner or later, you have to play ideas using the harmony. I see alot of jazz players, especially that come out of the schools,, that just play the right scale at the right time and place and basically have no soul or originality. All this is great stuff isn't it?
yes, you do see that alot, but you cant blame them. it's not like theyre doing anything wrong. i however do not believe in soul or "feeling" soul and feelin is i believe portrayed through expressive techniques, be it in jazz approach notes, swing time, use of legato, vibrato ect ect, i believe "feeling" and emotional expression can be tought in music just as much as a normal maj scale. influnenced by indian classical raga's
Ok, but the greats are naturals there are alot of players especially guitarists, who are more technicans than artists. You have to study, but you got have the street in you too. Look at Wes Montgomrey. Barney Kessel. All had that litte extra something.
my guitar instructor taught me 6 scale positions - 2 for major, 2 for minor, 2 for pentatonic. from there i transpose, alter, add or take away notes to play any scale. i guess this guy makes sense, he's just not very good at teaching it to other people. he's not really good at all. if you live in Columbus, oh hit me up for lessons!
cdbboyce said, " ... i guess this guy makes sense, he's just not very good at teaching it to other people. he's not really good at all ... "
Of course he makes sense.
He understands this very well, he is extremely intelligent, and he invented a method to impart it to others simply and in a manner that could be understood.
thechallengeresponse said, "This lesson makes perfect sense to me! Very easy to understand"
That's what I think also.
Jimmy is excellent at targeting the important aspects of jazz guitar technique and theory and cutting the waste, similar to Bruce Lee breaking things down to their most important aspects, then forming an effective method of Martial Arts and approach to training and Martial Arts eduction.
But on a side note, if all these fingerings weren't obvious to you when you learned the scale you need to be learning more about playing and less about theory..
FROM WBUILD: I'm glad there's so much discussion, I put this video up to both hear your comments and offer up something that gave me new insight awhile ago. Take what you need from Bruno, Carlton, McLaughlin, Dimeola, and Youtubers... all in an effort to find your own "voice". Hope it helped someone, out there.
Symmetrical in tone, still uses the same notes. I don't see why he calls it a different "position" because he's starting on a different note, that was really confusing even to someone who has no trouble with scales at all.
No offense but I don't find all these problems with other fingerings like he does, maybe this is a good lesson for people with small stubby hands like him? I don't know but I didn't find much in here. :-\
How did I ever "diss" his playing or fingers? I said they were small/stubby, nothing bad there, just an observation.
I implied that he wasn't a very good teacher (in my opinion) but I didn't even say that directly. why are you getting so defensive because someone has an opinion that differs from yours?
If anyone is "diss"ing someone, it's you. Grow up, SON.
Because I really care about a bearded old man taking me seriously. Are you joking? I've been playing for 2 years, I'd love to think Bruno was this good when he was 10 (saying he started at age 8) but I seriously doubt he was.
And good teachers are all opinions. People learn differently. It really astonishes me how immature you are "Johnny".
So this would be the end of me schooling an ignorant old man, but on a final note, stop dick riding. Seriously, your ass is spewing Bruno's cum right now.
I wish you could see my face over the internet because then you'd see how much this is tearing me up inside. I'm going to go cry in a corner now k sambo?
Jimmy is trying to teach guitar the way he figured it out.
The best thing you can do is figure it out for yourself. Study your theory and modes, and figure out songs by ear, and you'll be making the same kind of discoveries for yourself.
You're completely right. Sight-reading is also really important. It IS harder for a guitar player in terms of the treble clef but do-able with practice.
You don't have to read like a session ace but it communicates a lot of information in which your ear or tab might not always pick up. Even the best ear-players do miss the occasional thing. The best educational stuff is almost always in notation anyway.
I don't know how good a teacher Jimmy Bruno is, but I can tell you that he is probably the best technical jazz guitarist I have ever come across. I can't say whether or not his system works, but check out his albums "Burnin" and "Sleight of Hand" if you want to really hear him in action.
excellent tutor ... he gives you some great practical tools in the full video and cuts past all that bull you find in a lots of instruction booklets. scales, modes , chords, picking etc.
highly recommend it.
he's played with tony bennett, sinatra, streisand and many others.
If you consider scales, modes, chords, picking, (did you want to include arpeggios as well?) to be "bull", then I'm not exactly sure what you would be left with in terms of actually playing jazz guitar. Jimmy does provide some practical tools but, guess what, his suggestions are all based on scales, modes, chords, arpeggios, and picking etc.
sorry. i wasnt clear. what i meant was jimmy shows you how to reach all those scales modes etc in clear language. many books shows strange fingerings where jimmy gives you the basics.
Yes, indeed I can. I have played jazz professionally for 30 years and I have been a full time jazz faculty member at a local College for 25 years where I teach jazz guitar as well as all of the jazz Improv courses.
I disagree. Show me any fingering and I guarantee it will be found within the 7 fingerings. This includes any shifting or single string scales or open string scales as well. Any and every shifting fingering that can be conceived of will be a combination of two or more of the 7 fingerings. It's not as complicated as some may think. I've been teaching College level jazz guitar for 25 years and in that time I have helped hundrends of students simplify the whole major scale/modes/arpeggios concept.
Dear Jimmy, There most certainly are not "9 zillion" major scale fingerings but rather, a total of 7, within which one will find any and every possible combination. While your fingerings are very useful, they do not cover the entire finger board in a way that allows the player to have no grey areas. Within these same 7 fingerings are all of the 7 major scale modes in all of their possible fingerings. It's a matter of applying a bit of theory which has been around for centuries. Too academic?
I'm actually with you there. I agreed with him when he said there's no shortcuts for learning the major scale. He proceeded to provide us with a bit of a shortcut. I prefer to learn the seven big patterns and then learn one octave fingerings for all seven modes. Gives you a little bit more inside out knowledge.
I dont know if I like this guys Method.... seems limited. You should be able to play any scale at any position wherever you are on the guitar, in my opinion.
But WHY should you be able to do that? Doing it for the sake of doing it is meaningless. The point is not to know a zillioin different scale patterns. The point is to make music. There are only 12 notes. There are endless scales, but only 12 notes. How you get to those notes is not as important as what notes you play.
Joe Pass said "CAGED is everything". Bruno also uses CAGED. however, he "tunes up" the fingering a bit for the sake of efficiency in jazz & pop melodic, musical settings. like equal temperment tuning for the piano. if not for equal temperment, no octave would would be tune with the next. i use CAGED to remember and organize my playing (especially inversions) but Bruno's fingerings are very efficient (and CAGED) allowing melodic phrases to "lie well" without pivoting or shifting the hand so much.
once youve got a few major scale modes down on at least 2 sets of strings, you can pretty much call it a day and just transcribe. from what i understand hes just trying to take the ball ache out of people who practice scales more than they practice music. actually doing gigs and jamming will get your scales down in a more practical sense.
Hmm. I was thinking of getting his book, but he seems so close-minded about the possibilites of guitar fingering that I think I'm going to pass on this. He claims he couldn't play fast with some of those scales he showed, but I know that John McLaughlin can play faster than him, and the scale he demonstrated as "bad" is one John McLaughlin uses frequently, as do I. In fact, I stopped using the scales Bruno teaches in favor of faster, more spread out scales (which he condemns).
i have the book i think youre talking about, and its really good, i stopped practicing scales a long time ago because of the same reason that jimmy bruno mentions, theres too many; but the point here and in the book is to focus on one fingering for each type of scale and maybe thats what mclaughlin does. besides its prob one of the cheapest books ive ever bought, give it a shot
also, >75% of jazz & pop tunes only use the harmonized major scale and 2m7-57-1M7 anyway. throw in the ii Dorian, V Mixolydian, and I Major modes which are within the same fingering patterns as the major scale and we're ready for the road. chord voicings, inversions, arpeggios, substitutions... learn the above extremely well and end up at... "How do you get to Carnegie Hall? practice!, practice!, practice!, ...
Bruno is saying - know a handful of fingerings REALLY WELL. or be old and gray, before you get to play! it's ok to experiment with others - if you have the time. "so much to learn, so little time". Bruno chooses fingerings that lay well within chords, scales, and arpeggios and allow you to stay melodic (in the old sense, where if you can't whistle it, it's not a melody), smooth voice leading, staying in position... if you play 75% single notes, then there are better fingerings, yes.
Full of knowledge and ability. Great insight. That's why he's one of the top US jazz guitar instructors. Only moronic wankers would critize Jimmy Bruno.
does he really?? Bruno doesn't even compare with those dudes. come on now. They're out of this world. They Miles Davis' desciples and he blessed them. Bruno is good and all, very good actually, but as far as being an innovative musician, and a genius...I wouldn't go that far. I would go that far with both Herbie and Chick
My tale is true, but it's possible that it was just humor in poor taste. Problem is, I've seen him walk out in disgust from great musicians' performances, so I'm not giving him as much leeway as I'd give most people.
bruno is a big band jazz guitarist. they only play what is called for. overplaying is ridiculed. disciplined as there's a lot going on. big band guys always say fusion musicians overplay. they prefer to play a bit part in a large ensemble. Sinatra's band leader would have to be a leading proponent of that. Sinatra used the best pianists/arrangers - says a lot for Bruno. i think he enjoys being a practical tradesman rather than playing 100 KB/s, not that there's anything wrong with that either.
yeah, he shares valuable insight. the rest is simply the harmonic mechanics of playing guitar, which is the art of playing guitar and will be accrued slowly by everyone anyway. but he can save most guitarists a lot of time if they choose to follow his path through the forest.
this guy is full of shit...! plus he has a bad attitude! it's very hard to play music with him because he plays too much! Music is made also of pause and soul!!
he has the jaded attitude of a lounge guitarist. like a wiseguy from Philly or NYC. but don't let it fool you, its probably just street patter. he certainly gives you your money's worth in teaching guitar. i think he plays a lot at the start of his DVD, because he wants you to see how it all fits together. but the DVD is 2 hours long. that's 4 times what others give. cheers!
All players eventually reach their own intuitive way of seeing the tools they use, meaning the scale and note choices. It's such a personal thing to create music from this stuff, so, yes Metal Method uses similar fingerings...c'mon guys...as long as the guitar tuning is not radically changed or humans start growing fingers in different places, I think the fingering options are pretty much based on logic and comfort.
This is from his DVD "No Nonsense Jazz". 6 scales that will cover major diatonics all the modes, minors, harmonic minors and melodic. And cut them down for pentatonocs and add a flat-5 for the Blues Scales. The best scale DVD (and how to solo with them)you can buy. I know, I've seen most of them as a guitar teacher.
i'm glad to hear that you recommend it. i picked up his Mel Bay book "six essential fingerings for the jazz guitarist" $13.95 at Steve's Music Store in Toronto. it goes great with his no-nonsense DVD. it gives all the fingerings he speaks about. i like what he says about assigning the same scale interval to the same finger (paralleling) like the saxophone players. if someone starting out goes along with this idea and these fingerings, they will avoid a lot of wasted time. cheers!
i like it. i bought mine at Long & McQuade in Toronto, Canada. he has good ideas on fingerboard visualization, fingering, and managing scales, arpeggios and chords while playing. go to amazon
jimmy bruno no nonsense jazz guitar, 120 minutes, $24.95 U.S.
yep. check him out at Wikipedia and also his own site.
Jimmy Bruno, 55, American jazz guitarist, born in Philly, playing since 7 yrs old, began professionally at 19 yrs old touring with Buddy Rich, only guitarist to lead Frank Sinatra's band, played many yrs in L.A., influenced by Johnny Smith, Garland, Pass, Farlow, Montgomery, Roberts, Hall, Martino. anyone leading Sinatra's band has to be good, real good. this fact alone got me listening to his work and buying his book and DVD.
is he tiny or is the guitar huge?? looks like a damn upright bass played on the lap lol
burnsometrashcans 4 months ago
@burnsometrashcans
Both...
venatorivs 4 months ago
What he says is purely logical and based on his chordal approach. He says D dorian - the C scale starting on D and guided by Dm7 chord tones. And all is simple as that, this rules applies on anything you play. That is why is the master of teaching. You can study Ted Greene etc. but what Jimmy says is to play jazz right from the spot, just with basic knowledge of chords and major scale. Badass! :-)
TheBonneMaman 6 months ago
jimmy bruno has some pretty teeny hands, he's still awesome though
biochemisttriple9 8 months ago
so all these scales are in F?
limbslikehatchets 10 months ago
@limbslikehatchets no mate.. watch the root notes
Flamencanta 6 months ago
If you say you can your right and if you say you can't your right. I get what Bruno is conveying. If by now you already managed to learn a multitude of pictures branching off from other scales and shapes your already there. This would be a efficient way for someone to finally get out of pentatonic riffs and new fingerings, new scales and sounds. Sseems easy to modify the major scale. The fancy fingerings is optional once you get your feet wet then I think it get even more interesting.
GameLevelEditor 1 year ago
@theriffmill
Sadly, if you are asking this question it's probably too late : (
Don't bother about ageing. Music is the only thing that matters! Play!
messerJ4H 1 year ago
Is there a part two?
jtone20 1 year ago
100% efficient. The six fingerings are the best!
railcar123 1 year ago
I've yet to observe a plug for this dvd so I will. It's full of usable content for any player. The chapters are well laid out and the instruction section has this fabulous feature where it allows you to play his instruction at slow speed, not just visually but sonically too...in pitch. After buying 7-8 guitar instruction dvds this was the first one that I completely understood and began playing scales, chords immediately. I highly recommend it! DVD-Jimmy Bruno No Nonsense Jazz Guitar. Good luck!
gregoryusa1 1 year ago
@theriffmill you're never too old to begin. I didn't begin until later than that. The only time that matters is now. Drop the story of you wish you'd have begun whenever, and begin where you are. Dig in and get busy. And most of all enjoy yourself!
gregoryusa1 1 year ago
@theriffmill you're never to old to begin. I didn't begin until later than that. The only time that matters is now. Drop the story of you wish you'd have begun whenever, and begin where you are. Dig in and get busy. And most of all enjoy yourself!
gregoryusa1 1 year ago
To many things to remember to play a scale here.
I have been taught to be able to play (and read notes on a staff (not tab) a major scale beginning on each finger in any postion so there is really only 4 major scales fingerings.
gannonb4u 1 year ago
Does anyone here have 'The Advancing Guitarist'? Some of the scale procedures detailed there and in William Levitt's books seem to be very complex, perhaps for the reasons some of you have cited? Certainly scales on 1 string can help to learn pitches on the fretboard, but all of the crazy fingerings seem to be a bit much; does any other instrument put that much time into the fingering of the same melodic material (that's a real question, because I don't know of one).
ChristopherC32392 1 year ago
i like the way he pokes fun at certain methods.some not all teachers especially in music schools like to make things as complicated as possible.the more classes u take and the more trouble u have the more money and credibility goes to them.as far as fingerings go,some seem to work better for classical guitar. its different when u play with just fingers.i new a guy at college who couldnt play at all.he had everybody doing all these weird methods to cover up the fact that he couldnt play.
diagreen 1 year ago
6:10 you can hear the harmonics ringing on the other strings, but they sound beautiful.
kabustard 1 year ago
what dvd does this clip come from?
rafapak 1 year ago
@rafapak It's from the DVD: Jimmy Bruno No Nonsense Jazz Guitar. Jimmy is he real deal. The entire dvd is chocked full of musical morsels. Jimmy has a gift for teaching. He had me playing up and down the fretboard the first hour, and I'm a piano player.
gregoryusa1 1 year ago
It did from the Segovia Scale Book, Waste of time. Worse Scale method of all.
roge69charger 1 year ago
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roge69charger 1 year ago
VERY GOOD!!!!!!!!!
fastjazzguitar 1 year ago
CAGED, bitches! Learn it. Know it. Live it!
Hoopermazing 1 year ago
You won't learn everything in music and guitar existence but this video tutorial is a great insight and Jimmy has the right attitude. I actually learned quite a bit from this. Its all subjective to what you've been exposed to on your musical journey.
pissballs 2 years ago 7
jammriffer, its not just for beginners no! They have a huge selection on MYGUITARGURU (dot) INFO , that will suit all stages from beginner up to more experienced who are looking to hone their skillz. Go check it out, you will ove it.
CoreySemmons 2 years ago
Perhaps I am missing something because I have never spent time considering fingerings, at least that I am aware of, I know various scales/modes/arpeggios/triads all over the neck and let them run up and down the fretboard, vertically and horizontally. What concept am i missing here? (I'm seriously asking not being sarcastic).
f1sk8mm 2 years ago
A bit off topic...does anyone know the model/brand of this guitar? It's sounds stellar.
asplashofcitrus 2 years ago
Pretty sure he plays Benedetto guitars. They are stellar if you think they're worth the price.
mouthofacowboy 2 years ago
He has his own Sadowsky model
mikedoveguitar 2 years ago
looks like a gretch but i dont think it is one....
longination 2 years ago
one of my goals in life is to learn jazz guitar but it just seems too complicated...
surrealsound 2 years ago
It is. And if you really want to learn, don't try by watching Jimmy's videos. Great guitarist, horrible teacher.
HendrixcommaMartin 2 years ago
@HendrixcommaMartin - It's often like that with people who are very good at something. Michael Jordan would probably be a lousy basketball teacher, because the things he would assume you should be able to do would only apply to him, Kobe, and Lebron James.
Hoopermazing 1 year ago
@HendrixcommaMartin H,M who do you recommend. Thanks.
lhurien 1 year ago
It isn't with the right instruction, don't give up on your goal.
f1sk8mm 2 years ago 2
Interesting lesson. I just joined his online site and it is great! Good value for the money, lots of lessons and great teacher!
thechallengeresponse 2 years ago
i know he's a good player - i was just saying he could do much better at RELAYING and TEACHING the information. thats all!
cdbboyce 2 years ago
Nice to see Jimmy saying this...i never could think modes...but it's easy to remember a certain major scale for a given chord
sgtmaj7 2 years ago
modes have really very little to do with jazz improv. It's all about keys.
zinnington 2 years ago
Well said. I don't remember anyone in my formative years telling me that. Lots of modes over chords etc.. But it clicked when a sax player on a gig told me that same thing. Thanks zinnington.
sgtmaj7 2 years ago
Funny, All while I was studying music,, I learned alot from sax players and piano players too. Bruno is a monsters monster. Great player. Nice to converse with you.
zinnington 2 years ago
????
88naka 2 years ago
i believe allan holdsworth would disagree. i'd say jazz improv is all based around chords and all chords have a scale/mode counterpart be it e-7b9 phygrian, g13 mixolydian. even c7#9 Hungarian major.
nihility666 2 years ago
Alan Holdsworth is part of that whole fusion bunch, in my opinion are just trying to prove they're intelectualls through their playing. Knowing modes though helps. Another tool, but, all those Dom7 alterations are just alternate voicings that come out of the given key. E-7b5 = a C7 alt dominate chord coming out of the key of F and all the chords that key generates. Look at Stella by Starlight. Opening changes are basicall C7 blues resolving to Eb finally to Bb. You know your stuff.
zinnington 2 years ago
yeah, im aware of the alternate voicings and inversions of chords, but just for the sake of simplicity, applying the mixolydian scale to dominate chords is the simplest way to approach it. just like there are alternate voicings, substitutes and inversions there are an almost infinite amount of names you can call large chord extensions, the same way there are an infinite amount of scales with a maj3 and min7. i'm currently studying contemporary music, thanks :)
nihility666 2 years ago
I'll never argue with simplicity. Sooner or later, you have to play ideas using the harmony. I see alot of jazz players, especially that come out of the schools,, that just play the right scale at the right time and place and basically have no soul or originality. All this is great stuff isn't it?
zinnington 2 years ago
yes, you do see that alot, but you cant blame them. it's not like theyre doing anything wrong. i however do not believe in soul or "feeling" soul and feelin is i believe portrayed through expressive techniques, be it in jazz approach notes, swing time, use of legato, vibrato ect ect, i believe "feeling" and emotional expression can be tought in music just as much as a normal maj scale. influnenced by indian classical raga's
nihility666 2 years ago
i believe feeling and emotional expression can be tought doesnt have to come through experience * correction
nihility666 2 years ago
Ok, but the greats are naturals there are alot of players especially guitarists, who are more technicans than artists. You have to study, but you got have the street in you too. Look at Wes Montgomrey. Barney Kessel. All had that litte extra something.
zinnington 2 years ago 2
my guitar instructor taught me 6 scale positions - 2 for major, 2 for minor, 2 for pentatonic. from there i transpose, alter, add or take away notes to play any scale. i guess this guy makes sense, he's just not very good at teaching it to other people. he's not really good at all. if you live in Columbus, oh hit me up for lessons!
cdbboyce 2 years ago
cdbboyce said, " ... i guess this guy makes sense, he's just not very good at teaching it to other people. he's not really good at all ... "
Of course he makes sense.
He understands this very well, he is extremely intelligent, and he invented a method to impart it to others simply and in a manner that could be understood.
He trims the fat and leaves the meat.
Not very good at teaching it to other people?
That's not what I've seen.
Bruno is among the best.
WilliamHW 2 years ago 2
This lesson makes perfect sense to me! Very easy to understand.
thechallengeresponse 2 years ago
thechallengeresponse said, "This lesson makes perfect sense to me! Very easy to understand"
That's what I think also.
Jimmy is excellent at targeting the important aspects of jazz guitar technique and theory and cutting the waste, similar to Bruce Lee breaking things down to their most important aspects, then forming an effective method of Martial Arts and approach to training and Martial Arts eduction.
WilliamHW 2 years ago
"this guy" ? Wow if Jimmy Bruno is just "this guy" to you , your instructor must be who?
88naka 2 years ago
If I were a fish I'd SCREAM SCREAM SCREAM!
lessavyfav712712 2 years ago
But on a side note, if all these fingerings weren't obvious to you when you learned the scale you need to be learning more about playing and less about theory..
PilotDoofy 2 years ago
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gettinguponthe1 2 years ago
FROM WBUILD: I'm glad there's so much discussion, I put this video up to both hear your comments and offer up something that gave me new insight awhile ago. Take what you need from Bruno, Carlton, McLaughlin, Dimeola, and Youtubers... all in an effort to find your own "voice". Hope it helped someone, out there.
realjimsmith 2 years ago
Well that was confusing. The original video probably came with a book with diagrams.
I don't get the bit about "symmetrical" at all. He doesn't use the same finger for the roots.
jazzmunky 2 years ago 2
Symmetrical in tone, still uses the same notes. I don't see why he calls it a different "position" because he's starting on a different note, that was really confusing even to someone who has no trouble with scales at all.
No offense but I don't find all these problems with other fingerings like he does, maybe this is a good lesson for people with small stubby hands like him? I don't know but I didn't find much in here. :-\
PilotDoofy 2 years ago
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johnnyguitarcarson 2 years ago
How did I ever "diss" his playing or fingers? I said they were small/stubby, nothing bad there, just an observation.
I implied that he wasn't a very good teacher (in my opinion) but I didn't even say that directly. why are you getting so defensive because someone has an opinion that differs from yours?
If anyone is "diss"ing someone, it's you. Grow up, SON.
PilotDoofy 2 years ago
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johnnyguitarcarson 2 years ago
Because I really care about a bearded old man taking me seriously. Are you joking? I've been playing for 2 years, I'd love to think Bruno was this good when he was 10 (saying he started at age 8) but I seriously doubt he was.
And good teachers are all opinions. People learn differently. It really astonishes me how immature you are "Johnny".
So this would be the end of me schooling an ignorant old man, but on a final note, stop dick riding. Seriously, your ass is spewing Bruno's cum right now.
PilotDoofy 2 years ago
PilotDoofy
I knew you would show your real face and attitude,
Good Luck with that !
Johnny
johnnyguitarcarson 2 years ago
I wish you could see my face over the internet because then you'd see how much this is tearing me up inside. I'm going to go cry in a corner now k sambo?
PilotDoofy 2 years ago
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johnnyguitarcarson 2 years ago
Does anyone know who made that guitar?
HendrixcommaMartin 2 years ago
Looks like a Benedetto guitar.
vecernicek2 2 years ago
A problem is that the guitar has no Frames simbols. Also it is very difficult to explain examples with this guitar
Korsaro1 2 years ago
Perhaps for someone who doesn't know the neck. Fret markers aren't really nessecary with practice.
JederLacht1 2 years ago
stop talking shit just play
boyzycamacho 2 years ago
Jimmy is trying to teach guitar the way he figured it out.
The best thing you can do is figure it out for yourself. Study your theory and modes, and figure out songs by ear, and you'll be making the same kind of discoveries for yourself.
bobmcgarity 2 years ago 2
You're completely right. Sight-reading is also really important. It IS harder for a guitar player in terms of the treble clef but do-able with practice.
You don't have to read like a session ace but it communicates a lot of information in which your ear or tab might not always pick up. Even the best ear-players do miss the occasional thing. The best educational stuff is almost always in notation anyway.
JederLacht1 2 years ago
too much bullshit.....
jucamo007 2 years ago
I teach guitar for a living a local academy and I provide more logical instruction than this, shit maybe I should make a video.
Uhavdogbreath 2 years ago
If you make it they will come to it........:)
Tototwice 2 years ago
As soon as you can put "leader of Frank Sinatra's band" on your resume, you should get right to work on that video, schmuck!
Hoopermazing 2 years ago
lol, yea hes trying to take credit for inventing the 'caged' method for scales, and doing it in the most boring way possible.
guitarguy84 2 years ago 2
he plays the lydian mode in ex. 3
frankafru 2 years ago
Hey this is great. Where is the rest?
Yoruboy 3 years ago
'you'd have to live to be 400 years old to get em all'
maniccomp 3 years ago
I don't know how good a teacher Jimmy Bruno is, but I can tell you that he is probably the best technical jazz guitarist I have ever come across. I can't say whether or not his system works, but check out his albums "Burnin" and "Sleight of Hand" if you want to really hear him in action.
HendrixcommaMartin 3 years ago
So what's wrong with the CAGED system? I can see the use in 3 note-per-string fingerings, but this guy actually seems to be complicating the issue.
stratman06 3 years ago
excellent tutor ... he gives you some great practical tools in the full video and cuts past all that bull you find in a lots of instruction booklets. scales, modes , chords, picking etc.
highly recommend it.
he's played with tony bennett, sinatra, streisand and many others.
zaqmlp1234 3 years ago
If you consider scales, modes, chords, picking, (did you want to include arpeggios as well?) to be "bull", then I'm not exactly sure what you would be left with in terms of actually playing jazz guitar. Jimmy does provide some practical tools but, guess what, his suggestions are all based on scales, modes, chords, arpeggios, and picking etc.
tonyjazzman 3 years ago
sorry. i wasnt clear. what i meant was jimmy shows you how to reach all those scales modes etc in clear language. many books shows strange fingerings where jimmy gives you the basics.
zaqmlp1234 3 years ago
can any of you fuckwits actually play?
pdblower 3 years ago
Yes, indeed I can. I have played jazz professionally for 30 years and I have been a full time jazz faculty member at a local College for 25 years where I teach jazz guitar as well as all of the jazz Improv courses.
tonyjazzman 3 years ago
I disagree. Show me any fingering and I guarantee it will be found within the 7 fingerings. This includes any shifting or single string scales or open string scales as well. Any and every shifting fingering that can be conceived of will be a combination of two or more of the 7 fingerings. It's not as complicated as some may think. I've been teaching College level jazz guitar for 25 years and in that time I have helped hundrends of students simplify the whole major scale/modes/arpeggios concept.
128032000 3 years ago
The previous "I disagree" reply is actually from tonyjazzman...I sent it from a friends computer. Cheers.
tonyjazzman 3 years ago
Dear Jimmy, There most certainly are not "9 zillion" major scale fingerings but rather, a total of 7, within which one will find any and every possible combination. While your fingerings are very useful, they do not cover the entire finger board in a way that allows the player to have no grey areas. Within these same 7 fingerings are all of the 7 major scale modes in all of their possible fingerings. It's a matter of applying a bit of theory which has been around for centuries. Too academic?
tonyjazzman 3 years ago
I'm actually with you there. I agreed with him when he said there's no shortcuts for learning the major scale. He proceeded to provide us with a bit of a shortcut. I prefer to learn the seven big patterns and then learn one octave fingerings for all seven modes. Gives you a little bit more inside out knowledge.
JazzGeetar213 3 years ago 2
I dont know if I like this guys Method.... seems limited. You should be able to play any scale at any position wherever you are on the guitar, in my opinion.
VAhlene 3 years ago
yeah depending on the key of the song your playing over but im guessing your on about guitar in general so your right
barrybollocks 3 years ago
But WHY should you be able to do that? Doing it for the sake of doing it is meaningless. The point is not to know a zillioin different scale patterns. The point is to make music. There are only 12 notes. There are endless scales, but only 12 notes. How you get to those notes is not as important as what notes you play.
InformedMisery 3 years ago
Jimmy knows his guitar. Excellent instruction.
robbourassaguitarist 3 years ago
jesus that guitar us huge!!! maybe he just small?
LANEY80 3 years ago
is this the guy from the supranos tv show?
oOoACFREEMANoOo 3 years ago
These fingerings are gay and make me want to puke on his face
psycho969 3 years ago
The way he lays out the fingerings, makes it much much
easier to VISUALIZE the scales away from the guitar too
The hideous fingerings are Berklee .
cowlipz 3 years ago
why in his art of picking book he says not to pic for om the wrist, and to pick from the elbow? it looks like he is picking from the wrist.
stevieVantanna 3 years ago
what about something like harmonic minor?
stevieVantanna 3 years ago 2
he covers it in his book that goes with the video.
CTrane88 3 years ago
I find the CAGED system much simpler to use for remembering scale patterns. Each to their own I suppose.
czgibson 3 years ago
This IS based on the caged system. The first one he goes over is the "E" shape-deriving scale.
hotrodius 3 years ago
Joe Pass said "CAGED is everything". Bruno also uses CAGED. however, he "tunes up" the fingering a bit for the sake of efficiency in jazz & pop melodic, musical settings. like equal temperment tuning for the piano. if not for equal temperment, no octave would would be tune with the next. i use CAGED to remember and organize my playing (especially inversions) but Bruno's fingerings are very efficient (and CAGED) allowing melodic phrases to "lie well" without pivoting or shifting the hand so much.
CrackerJackLee 3 years ago
once youve got a few major scale modes down on at least 2 sets of strings, you can pretty much call it a day and just transcribe. from what i understand hes just trying to take the ball ache out of people who practice scales more than they practice music. actually doing gigs and jamming will get your scales down in a more practical sense.
elnombre2 3 years ago
Hmm. I was thinking of getting his book, but he seems so close-minded about the possibilites of guitar fingering that I think I'm going to pass on this. He claims he couldn't play fast with some of those scales he showed, but I know that John McLaughlin can play faster than him, and the scale he demonstrated as "bad" is one John McLaughlin uses frequently, as do I. In fact, I stopped using the scales Bruno teaches in favor of faster, more spread out scales (which he condemns).
ZamzarBob 3 years ago
i have the book i think youre talking about, and its really good, i stopped practicing scales a long time ago because of the same reason that jimmy bruno mentions, theres too many; but the point here and in the book is to focus on one fingering for each type of scale and maybe thats what mclaughlin does. besides its prob one of the cheapest books ive ever bought, give it a shot
CTrane88 3 years ago
also, >75% of jazz & pop tunes only use the harmonized major scale and 2m7-57-1M7 anyway. throw in the ii Dorian, V Mixolydian, and I Major modes which are within the same fingering patterns as the major scale and we're ready for the road. chord voicings, inversions, arpeggios, substitutions... learn the above extremely well and end up at... "How do you get to Carnegie Hall? practice!, practice!, practice!, ...
CrackerJackLee 3 years ago
Bruno is saying - know a handful of fingerings REALLY WELL. or be old and gray, before you get to play! it's ok to experiment with others - if you have the time. "so much to learn, so little time". Bruno chooses fingerings that lay well within chords, scales, and arpeggios and allow you to stay melodic (in the old sense, where if you can't whistle it, it's not a melody), smooth voice leading, staying in position... if you play 75% single notes, then there are better fingerings, yes.
CrackerJackLee 3 years ago
You guys don't know anything about improvisation
! When you do not understand something, doesn't mean that is shit!
You are ignorants I am afraid!!!
eddiehoffmann 3 years ago
i guess you're trying to say that these guys know "fuck nothing!" and that you know "fuck all!"
CrackerJackLee 3 years ago
i'm one of the few it seems that aggree with him. maybe becuz i play my scales in a similar way..simple and to the point.
geeterman98 3 years ago 2
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full of shit and with a bad attitude! I Agree !
zarolhovski 4 years ago
Full of knowledge and ability. Great insight. That's why he's one of the top US jazz guitar instructors. Only moronic wankers would critize Jimmy Bruno.
kewlfonz 4 years ago
What do you call Jimmy then who criticizes the likes of Chick "Gonorrhea", Herbie "Handjob" etc?
Kragnorak 3 years ago
Insightful and not spiteful - now excuse me I gotta have ma tea...
kewlfonz 3 years ago 2
does he really?? Bruno doesn't even compare with those dudes. come on now. They're out of this world. They Miles Davis' desciples and he blessed them. Bruno is good and all, very good actually, but as far as being an innovative musician, and a genius...I wouldn't go that far. I would go that far with both Herbie and Chick
bradley1107 3 years ago
My tale is true, but it's possible that it was just humor in poor taste. Problem is, I've seen him walk out in disgust from great musicians' performances, so I'm not giving him as much leeway as I'd give most people.
Kragnorak 3 years ago
bruno is a big band jazz guitarist. they only play what is called for. overplaying is ridiculed. disciplined as there's a lot going on. big band guys always say fusion musicians overplay. they prefer to play a bit part in a large ensemble. Sinatra's band leader would have to be a leading proponent of that. Sinatra used the best pianists/arrangers - says a lot for Bruno. i think he enjoys being a practical tradesman rather than playing 100 KB/s, not that there's anything wrong with that either.
CrackerJackLee 3 years ago
yeah, he shares valuable insight. the rest is simply the harmonic mechanics of playing guitar, which is the art of playing guitar and will be accrued slowly by everyone anyway. but he can save most guitarists a lot of time if they choose to follow his path through the forest.
CrackerJackLee 3 years ago
this guy is full of shit...! plus he has a bad attitude! it's very hard to play music with him because he plays too much! Music is made also of pause and soul!!
rullanti 4 years ago
he has the jaded attitude of a lounge guitarist. like a wiseguy from Philly or NYC. but don't let it fool you, its probably just street patter. he certainly gives you your money's worth in teaching guitar. i think he plays a lot at the start of his DVD, because he wants you to see how it all fits together. but the DVD is 2 hours long. that's 4 times what others give. cheers!
CrackerJackLee 3 years ago
All players eventually reach their own intuitive way of seeing the tools they use, meaning the scale and note choices. It's such a personal thing to create music from this stuff, so, yes Metal Method uses similar fingerings...c'mon guys...as long as the guitar tuning is not radically changed or humans start growing fingers in different places, I think the fingering options are pretty much based on logic and comfort.
Chromatype 4 years ago 4
This is from his DVD "No Nonsense Jazz". 6 scales that will cover major diatonics all the modes, minors, harmonic minors and melodic. And cut them down for pentatonocs and add a flat-5 for the Blues Scales. The best scale DVD (and how to solo with them)you can buy. I know, I've seen most of them as a guitar teacher.
christheteacher 4 years ago
i'm glad to hear that you recommend it. i picked up his Mel Bay book "six essential fingerings for the jazz guitarist" $13.95 at Steve's Music Store in Toronto. it goes great with his no-nonsense DVD. it gives all the fingerings he speaks about. i like what he says about assigning the same scale interval to the same finger (paralleling) like the saxophone players. if someone starting out goes along with this idea and these fingerings, they will avoid a lot of wasted time. cheers!
CrackerJackLee 3 years ago
i need this were can you buy this guys videos?!!!
cwall2006 4 years ago
It looks like a Chordmelody product.Google for this
sonsdad 4 years ago
i like it. i bought mine at Long & McQuade in Toronto, Canada. he has good ideas on fingerboard visualization, fingering, and managing scales, arpeggios and chords while playing. go to amazon
jimmy bruno no nonsense jazz guitar, 120 minutes, $24.95 U.S.
CrackerJackLee 3 years ago
Jimmy rocks, great player and teacher!!
MusiciansQuarters 4 years ago
yep. check him out at Wikipedia and also his own site.
Jimmy Bruno, 55, American jazz guitarist, born in Philly, playing since 7 yrs old, began professionally at 19 yrs old touring with Buddy Rich, only guitarist to lead Frank Sinatra's band, played many yrs in L.A., influenced by Johnny Smith, Garland, Pass, Farlow, Montgomery, Roberts, Hall, Martino. anyone leading Sinatra's band has to be good, real good. this fact alone got me listening to his work and buying his book and DVD.
CrackerJackLee 3 years ago
its like he trys to make modes his own idea. HAHAHA
beejay222 4 years ago
Hey! That's Metal Method! Haha!
greasykid 4 years ago
the first scale is the one ted greene uses in chord chemistry i believe. please flame me if i am wrong
Tangerinemustang 4 years ago
this guy is really smart
bassist12345 4 years ago 3