pro-choice violence is everywhere. there was one screamed, cursed, and flipped the bird at me and my 19 month old son outside the abortion mill yesterday. so much for being pro-woman. eh, they kill babies for a living, what do they care about women, much less children.
"A woman quite simply owns her body, and when a state, government, Congressmen, or President proclaims that no she does not own it, or has the right to control it, even for nine months, even for just nine minutes, an entire sex has been relegated to second-class, second-best, by virtue of birth."
So if it's her body, then she can do whatever she wants. Who's to say she can't party for a couple of days and leave her baby alone, unfed and unchanged. No government should have the right to make her stay home with her kid, right?
@Karenjadegirl: Yet, I would call the cops on you for using pepper spray on people who aren't really doing anything but voicing their opinions in a free country! :D
@RockyBalboa211 You may voice your opinions all you like in a free country, just don't try forcing your own opinions on me or anyone else. I don't see pro-choicers picketing outside of materinity wards and harassing the patiants.
People hate hearing the truth. I've had many pro choicers say that they did not care to see pictures of abortion. They choose to keep themselves ignorant.
@deadpassive Pro-"life" people have murdered 8 pro-choice people since 1977 according to NAF statistics. 4 of them were killed by 2 different people, and before the murdering of Dr. Tiller last year, the last murder was in 1998.
So, you're stereotyping the pro-life movement as being a bunch of murders based on 6 people committing them, and almost all of which occured a decade ago. Way to be open-minded.
@loner1878 According to the NAF's Violence and Disruption statistics, it also lists cases of pro-life picketing since 1977, which is 148,303. Compared to that number, if pro-lifers were as violent as they are played up to be, I would think there would be way more than 8 murders, 17 attempted murders, 41 bombings, 175 arsons, and 1,429 acts of vandalism (you got the number of vandalism cases wrong).
Very easy to say if you're not the one they're targeting. Four years ago, a clinic I used to escort at was targeted by a pro life fanantic who planned to set off a pipe bomb and then shoot everyone inside. By sheer luck he was arrested before he could carry out his plan, he had both a firearm and the pipe bomb.
@loner1878 That's good he was arrested before he could commit those terrible acts of violence. But, just as you said, he's a fanatic, and stereotyping all pro-lifers as violent fanatics based on just a mere few violent people is very closed minded, for a vast majority of pro-lifers are peaceful. In fact, labeling all pro-lifers as violent discourages women from seeking the services they can provide, such as baby bottles, clothes, food, and even a place to live; things pro-choicers won't provide.
Maybe not all pro lifers can be called fanatics, but I very well remember the reaction to the murder of Dr Tiller. "Pro life" boards literally lit up with cheers and praise for his murderer. Labeling doctors as murderers gives fanatics their reasons to pick up a gun and kill. I do think of many pro life organizations as enablers. We don't need to label your side, your fake clinics where you lie to women to scare them away from an informed decision tend to do that themselves.
@loner1878 ...which makes me question if pro-choicers are really pro-"choice", for if they were, they wouldn't be condemning those services pro-lifers can provide as an alternative to abortion, which makes abortion seem like the "best" or the only option. I suggest you Google "NAF anti-abortion violence", which should take you to the "NAF VIOLENCE AND DISRUPTION STATISTICS." It breaks down every act of violence and disruption to the year. And BTW, this is where I got the vandalism numbers from.
I've talked to many women who were tricked into stepping into those fake clinics. One even reported the people there locked the door and wouldn't let her leave while they told her she was a killer and kept handing her obviously secondhand baby supplies.
You are being intentionally deceitful (no suprise) if you are seriously claiming all pro lifers provide those things. Too many I see outside clinics could clearly care less once the baby is out.
Nice try, but fail. We do not oppose helping pregnant women in need, but doing it through harrassment, misinformation and lies is what we oppose. We oppose women not being told of all their options honeslty and being pushed to one. Counselors at our clinics do not push women to get abortions.
@falkenlaser said "So, you're stereotyping the pro-life movement as being a bunch of murders based on 6 people committing them"
No, "pro-life" people are murderers because they keep trying to shut down Planned Parenthood. PP saves lives with STD testing, cancer screenings - when breast cancer is the #2 killer of women in America, and don't forget that a woman is more than 4 times as likely to die in labor than from an abortion.
It's not your right to make your own ethical decisions + mine too.
@falkenlaser said "So, you're stereotyping the pro-life movement as being a bunch of murders based on 6 people committing them"
No, "pro-life" people are murderers because they keep trying to shut down Planned Parenthood, who save lives with STD testing, cancer screenings - when breast cancer is the 2nd killer of women in America, and don't forget that a woman is more than 4 times as likely to die in labor than from an abortion.
It's not your right to make your own ethical decisions & mine too.
@dimefeet Are you saying it’s a better idea for a woman to abort than to give birth because there’s less risk? Does Planned Parenthood provide services that can cure STD symptoms and breast cancer, or can they only identify the symptoms? That is you interesting you mentioned breast cancer. Google abortionbreastcancer (and go to the website with that name) . I’m not 100% convinced yet that abortion can cause it (can’t be too sure in controversial cases like this), but I like to keep an open mind.
@falkenlaser said "Does Planned Parenthood provide services that can cure STD symptoms and breast cancer, or can they only identify the symptoms? "
Early detection greatly increases the rate of success at treating cancer. Planned Parenthood provides the screenings that many can't afford otherwise, thereby reducing cancer-related deaths.
"... a better idea for a woman to abort than to give birth because there’s less risk?"
I'm saying that forcing pregnant women to give birth kills some women.
@dimefeet It's interesting you mention PP, abortion, and breast cancer. I'm not convinced of it yet fully, but Google abortionbreastcancer, and go to the website of that title. All I can say is, IF abortion can cause breast cancer, then it can, and there's no escaping that fact. And the longer it goes unacknowledged by pro-choicers, the bigger the lawsuits will be. Heck, pro-lifers may not even need to shut down PP. If it's found PP knew about it all along, they may get sewed out of existence.
@dimefeet Woman dying in childbirth is actually quite rare. Giving birth is a natural process, so woman's bodies are made to do it. But, the more it is said that child birth kills women, or is hard on her body, or she is more likely to survive an abortion, the more women will fear childbirth, and will be more willing to get an abortion; even though the gloom and doom of childbirth is mostly hype.
And BTW, woman can get tested for breast cancer and STD's at hospitals. PP isn't the only place.
@iTsJuStMe44 Being Pro-life has nothing to do with religion . It has to do with believing that babies should not be murdered based what the mother feels like doing with it. I'm catholic but that's how I view it.
pro-choice violence is everywhere. there was one screamed, cursed, and flipped the bird at me and my 19 month old son outside the abortion mill yesterday. so much for being pro-woman. eh, they kill babies for a living, what do they care about women, much less children.
crawfordroses 8 months ago
"A woman quite simply owns her body, and when a state, government, Congressmen, or President proclaims that no she does not own it, or has the right to control it, even for nine months, even for just nine minutes, an entire sex has been relegated to second-class, second-best, by virtue of birth."
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So if it's her body, then she can do whatever she wants. Who's to say she can't party for a couple of days and leave her baby alone, unfed and unchanged. No government should have the right to make her stay home with her kid, right?
93xfan 3 months ago
Those thugs deserve worse than slaps.
loner1878 1 year ago
Allright! I'd have slapped them too if they'd tried to harass and intimidate me like that! Better yet, I'd have had a can of pepper spray!
Karenjadegirl 1 year ago
@Karenjadegirl: Yet, I would call the cops on you for using pepper spray on people who aren't really doing anything but voicing their opinions in a free country! :D
RockyBalboa211 1 year ago
@RockyBalboa211 You may voice your opinions all you like in a free country, just don't try forcing your own opinions on me or anyone else. I don't see pro-choicers picketing outside of materinity wards and harassing the patiants.
Karenjadegirl 1 year ago
Why do people dismiss this. If that was a man hitting a woman he would have gone to jail. People also act like this with female child molesters.
Her butt should go to jail or should be handle lawfully.
ladyEulaelie 2 years ago
Now that is the feminist I am looking to marry.
Abashi76 2 years ago
I guess the hateful bigots got what they deserved. ^_^
eljagg01 2 years ago
hmm...those pro-choicers get so violent .......tsk tsk tsk...
I guess the truth that abortion is murder just gets to them!
AmieLynn16 2 years ago
People hate hearing the truth. I've had many pro choicers say that they did not care to see pictures of abortion. They choose to keep themselves ignorant.
kcballintyp 2 years ago
I'm an atheist, and I'm pro life too. I'd have knocked that bitch the fuck out if she tried that slapping shit on me.
superbear720i 3 years ago 3
I would have whipped her ass!
madandmel15 3 years ago 2
ur pro-life? im not trying to offend u or anything but i've never really heard of a pro-life athiest. good for you!
iTsJuStMe44 3 years ago
You'd be surprised of how many of them are out there. Many people think all pro life people are a bunch of religious nuts
kcballintyp 2 years ago
This is because the vast majority are.
I love how you people are getting so up in arms about a little slap, yet "pro-lifers" seem to love murdering people.
deadpassive 2 years ago 2
I'm pro life and I have never murdered anyone.
kcballintyp 2 years ago 4
I'm pro choice and I've never slapped anyone.
deadpassive 2 years ago
@deadpassive Pro-"life" people have murdered 8 pro-choice people since 1977 according to NAF statistics. 4 of them were killed by 2 different people, and before the murdering of Dr. Tiller last year, the last murder was in 1998.
So, you're stereotyping the pro-life movement as being a bunch of murders based on 6 people committing them, and almost all of which occured a decade ago. Way to be open-minded.
falkenlaser 1 year ago 6
@falkenlaser
The 30-year campaign of anti-choice violence has already resulted in:
8 murders
17 ATTEMPTED murders
41 bombings
175 arsons
406 death threats
5,800 acts of vandalism
13,995 harassing phone calls and hate-mail incidents
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 According to the NAF's Violence and Disruption statistics, it also lists cases of pro-life picketing since 1977, which is 148,303. Compared to that number, if pro-lifers were as violent as they are played up to be, I would think there would be way more than 8 murders, 17 attempted murders, 41 bombings, 175 arsons, and 1,429 acts of vandalism (you got the number of vandalism cases wrong).
falkenlaser 1 year ago
@falkenlaser
Very easy to say if you're not the one they're targeting. Four years ago, a clinic I used to escort at was targeted by a pro life fanantic who planned to set off a pipe bomb and then shoot everyone inside. By sheer luck he was arrested before he could carry out his plan, he had both a firearm and the pipe bomb.
YOU got the vandalism numbers wrong.
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 That's good he was arrested before he could commit those terrible acts of violence. But, just as you said, he's a fanatic, and stereotyping all pro-lifers as violent fanatics based on just a mere few violent people is very closed minded, for a vast majority of pro-lifers are peaceful. In fact, labeling all pro-lifers as violent discourages women from seeking the services they can provide, such as baby bottles, clothes, food, and even a place to live; things pro-choicers won't provide.
falkenlaser 1 year ago
@falkenlaser
Maybe not all pro lifers can be called fanatics, but I very well remember the reaction to the murder of Dr Tiller. "Pro life" boards literally lit up with cheers and praise for his murderer. Labeling doctors as murderers gives fanatics their reasons to pick up a gun and kill. I do think of many pro life organizations as enablers. We don't need to label your side, your fake clinics where you lie to women to scare them away from an informed decision tend to do that themselves.
loner1878 1 year ago 2
@loner1878 ...which makes me question if pro-choicers are really pro-"choice", for if they were, they wouldn't be condemning those services pro-lifers can provide as an alternative to abortion, which makes abortion seem like the "best" or the only option. I suggest you Google "NAF anti-abortion violence", which should take you to the "NAF VIOLENCE AND DISRUPTION STATISTICS." It breaks down every act of violence and disruption to the year. And BTW, this is where I got the vandalism numbers from.
falkenlaser 1 year ago
@falkenlaser
I've talked to many women who were tricked into stepping into those fake clinics. One even reported the people there locked the door and wouldn't let her leave while they told her she was a killer and kept handing her obviously secondhand baby supplies.
You are being intentionally deceitful (no suprise) if you are seriously claiming all pro lifers provide those things. Too many I see outside clinics could clearly care less once the baby is out.
loner1878 1 year ago 4
@falkenlaser
Nice try, but fail. We do not oppose helping pregnant women in need, but doing it through harrassment, misinformation and lies is what we oppose. We oppose women not being told of all their options honeslty and being pushed to one. Counselors at our clinics do not push women to get abortions.
loner1878 1 year ago 3
@falkenlaser said "So, you're stereotyping the pro-life movement as being a bunch of murders based on 6 people committing them"
No, "pro-life" people are murderers because they keep trying to shut down Planned Parenthood. PP saves lives with STD testing, cancer screenings - when breast cancer is the #2 killer of women in America, and don't forget that a woman is more than 4 times as likely to die in labor than from an abortion.
It's not your right to make your own ethical decisions + mine too.
dimefeet 5 months ago
@falkenlaser said "So, you're stereotyping the pro-life movement as being a bunch of murders based on 6 people committing them"
No, "pro-life" people are murderers because they keep trying to shut down Planned Parenthood, who save lives with STD testing, cancer screenings - when breast cancer is the 2nd killer of women in America, and don't forget that a woman is more than 4 times as likely to die in labor than from an abortion.
It's not your right to make your own ethical decisions & mine too.
dimefeet 5 months ago
@dimefeet Are you saying it’s a better idea for a woman to abort than to give birth because there’s less risk? Does Planned Parenthood provide services that can cure STD symptoms and breast cancer, or can they only identify the symptoms? That is you interesting you mentioned breast cancer. Google abortionbreastcancer (and go to the website with that name) . I’m not 100% convinced yet that abortion can cause it (can’t be too sure in controversial cases like this), but I like to keep an open mind.
falkenlaser 5 months ago
@falkenlaser said "Does Planned Parenthood provide services that can cure STD symptoms and breast cancer, or can they only identify the symptoms? "
Early detection greatly increases the rate of success at treating cancer. Planned Parenthood provides the screenings that many can't afford otherwise, thereby reducing cancer-related deaths.
"... a better idea for a woman to abort than to give birth because there’s less risk?"
I'm saying that forcing pregnant women to give birth kills some women.
dimefeet 5 months ago
@dimefeet It's interesting you mention PP, abortion, and breast cancer. I'm not convinced of it yet fully, but Google abortionbreastcancer, and go to the website of that title. All I can say is, IF abortion can cause breast cancer, then it can, and there's no escaping that fact. And the longer it goes unacknowledged by pro-choicers, the bigger the lawsuits will be. Heck, pro-lifers may not even need to shut down PP. If it's found PP knew about it all along, they may get sewed out of existence.
falkenlaser 4 months ago
@dimefeet Woman dying in childbirth is actually quite rare. Giving birth is a natural process, so woman's bodies are made to do it. But, the more it is said that child birth kills women, or is hard on her body, or she is more likely to survive an abortion, the more women will fear childbirth, and will be more willing to get an abortion; even though the gloom and doom of childbirth is mostly hype.
And BTW, woman can get tested for breast cancer and STD's at hospitals. PP isn't the only place.
falkenlaser 4 months ago
@falkenlaser
shut up bitch. Be on notice. Your bigoted views will no longer be tolerated. Stop or face the deadly consequences of your evil.
TFYFWYA 3 weeks ago
@falkenlaser
People aren't interested in truth. They want stereotyping and generalization to fit there needs as they see fit.
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shut up bitch. Be on notice. Your bigoted views will no longer be tolerated. Stop or face the deadly consequences of your evil.
TFYFWYA 3 weeks ago
@iTsJuStMe44 Being Pro-life has nothing to do with religion . It has to do with believing that babies should not be murdered based what the mother feels like doing with it. I'm catholic but that's how I view it.
EmmaEmazing 1 year ago 2
Thank you! It is fact that abortion murders a baby not religion.
detachedlegs 2 years ago
LOL!!!
Abashi76 3 years ago
Good!
Pro-Life all the way.
And I am an ATHEIST!
obesewoman 4 years ago