I have heard a lot of good stuff about protools. Let me see Steve Vai, a Navy Vet at a computer store who worked there as a computer sales/person techie and I think Roger McGuinn has that in his arsenal on his Apple and or Dell PC's in his home studio as well. It sounds and looks good, and I have some of it in Avid Studio but,..I can't afford a Neuman. */laughs,..so, I ask what do you think about Behringers C1U, M-1 apogee, Samson and other new usb mikes for recording guitar in layers like this?
@TooleralusAEnima i assume your micing the amp, i go to a vocational school for this and we have done that. we get very good results using the 57. If we don't use that we would use an Audix D-6. great mic. cost is around $200
@gyeomusic To a degree, but the problem with a chorus effect is that it sounds like a chorus effect. This is a much more natural sounding way to do it.
Good video guys. I just got my AT-4040 Condenser Mic to do a little home recording of my Martin HD-28. The First thing I noticed was this great Mic is so sensitive it picks up my breathing. Since I can't hold my breath for 3-4 min..LOL I have already hit the Low Pass filter on the Mic and made my own POP Filter but the breathing still comes through. The guitarist at church said something about getting rid of it after recording?? I have PT 9.0 MP Suggestions, Thank's in advance.
Breathing is a natural part of singing. Why would you try to remove it? If you're still hell bent on removing breaths, you can gate the vocals, and set the threshold to where when the vocal dies off, it'll flip the gate.
Why would you tap your feet while recording acoustic guitar? An acoustic mic can pick up the slightest of sounds. Your track will be cluttered with noise. FAIL
Interesting... I didn't hear ONE SINGLE NOISE that came from his foot in the source tracks, on my Bose headphones, nor in my studio monitors... So yeah, your point is???
"Why would you tap your feet while recording acoustic guitar? An acoustic mic can pick up the slightest of sounds. Your track *will be* cluttered with noise. FAIL"
So, you asked WHY someone would do that, and then told them that 'your track will be cluttered with noise. FAIL.'
BUT.... That guy DID do it, and it DIDN'T clutter his track with noise. See what I did there?
well you could set up a whole other track. Or why not just take what he played on the first track duplicate it to the other and then pan them l/r wouldn't that be easier then having the guitarist try to imitate the part over again?
The slight variations in performance are what give it the 'space' that you hear. If you just double it, it'll sound weird, and only boost the signal of the source. If it's 100% identical, and you pan L/R, it is still centered, because it's playing equally in each speaker. Double takes make it *wide*... I suggest you try it yourself and you'll see very quickly why doubling tracks is a far better way to get width.
Not being rude, but is that it? Your beginners guide to recording an acoustic guitar is: point mic at guitar and press record.
I think we could have all figured that out for ourselves. What about finding the sweet spot, explaining why you record 2 mono tracks instead of one stereo?
Like I said, not being rude, just think this could have been thought through a bit better.
Am I the only one who figured out this guys not playing the guitar live? lol.. First I noticed he's lightly stomping his left foot and it wasn't getting picked up by the mic, 2nd there's a tapping out of no where at 1:08, third, both video clips of him playing is the same clip reused.
So can I know what microphone did you used to record your voice in this video when you are showing us the equalizer thingy? Or does anybody know what he uses based on what you hear?
@marlo916 yea it's a little mixer for the guitar player. In this setup the room where he is actually playing is separate from the room that the computer is in. Normally you would just plug your headphones into the mixer or preamp you're using but since it's in another room, they use these... Basically it's just to show that their studio has reached ballet status. Haha
@Uebervater All the techniques we are demonstrating here can be replicated with cheaper mics and whatever software you may prefer. Even if you have a mic worth 5k, placing it in the wrong spot will make it sound bad.
@SignatureSoundStudio placing it in the wrong spot will make sound it bad, that's the truth. but a 5k (even a 1k) will deliver good sound at a standard position, and superior sound, if you will experiment a bit. experimentig with cheap mics will bring experience in positioning usw, but you will get stuck on the crappy sound and abusing eqs etc. todays special offers are mostly crap
Not completely true. A superior mic will pick up EVERY flaw in whatever source you're recording. Hence why good singers sound AWESOME in high-end mics, and bad singers sound TERRIBLE at it. It's like good monitors: They show you everything wrong with your mix. You don't *listen* to music on good monitors; you *judge* it... LOL
Lower end mics have a lot of 'color' and 'hype' that can help tame bad sounds. Sometimes an SM57/58 is all it takes... ;-)
@TrochezCovers It works well to mic in stereo, but it is a different sound. Your idea is an excellent solution for a guitar part that is difficult to double accurately. But when its possible to track it twice, think of it this way; With guitar miked in stereo you are hearing six strings spread out in stereo (often quite nice), double tracking, you are hearing twelve strings, so it is more lush. Furthermore, less chance of phase problems if you dont mic carefully with two mics.
Trochez, if you record two tracks at the same time, then all will have two tracks of the same signal. By law, this only increases the amplitude as the waves are combined. A second, unique performance will produce a second track of completely different wave forms, widening the characteristics of the track. Or "fattening" it, in lamens.
Only if you want a wet/dry thing going on, for example, using the second duplicate track to be heavily compressed with delay and reverb or other modulations and/or effects, whilst preserving the original track to be highlighted, sure, I guess you could use it for some interesting creativity in mixing. But you will never achieve stereo with a duplicate signal.
@TrochezCovers doubling guitars with two performances is the ONLY way to get the sound most powerful. It's the tiny little differences in the two signals that create this huge span of sound when you pan them. You will never get a sound as powerful as with real doubling. Just try out, you'll understand ;)
@TrochezCovers Recording with 2 mics at the same time and panning hard left/right won't sound as 'wide' or 'big' as recording 2 separate takes. But every situation needs different techniques.
@TrochezCovers FWIW, the magic of the doubling comes from the inconsistencies between the two performances. Even if the doubled track is a "tight" performance, there's going to be all kinds of differences between the two, and that's what makes the doubled part sound full. If you record the single mic onto two tracks in one pass and hard pan them, that's identical to recording in mono and leaving it center-panned. The only difference would be a level difference based on your DAW's pan law.
That looked like a U87 to me. *shrug* And, the faders are normally post-tape, so moving them shouldn't affect the recording level, only playback level. Unless your session is set up differently.
@cheeseforheathens No no, this is a U67 which is no longer made. One would cost more like $8000 if you find one for sale. I have excellent luck with a modern Neumann M147 which is sort of a transformerless version of the equally expensive U47. The M147 is more around the price you mentioned;) Maybe a tad more. The modern transformerless version of the U67 (I think called the M167) is about $6000.
hi! thank u so much for the info but I have a problem ... when I connect my mic and start to record there's a sound like air and its always in the background ... what do i have to do? thanks thanks thanks from Peru :D
@blankita1525 I didn't post this video but I know what you are talking about. If you are receiving a lot of airy/static type noise it is probably because you are running your mic straight into the computer without letting it pass through a preamp or audio interface, thus making you raise the volume of the recorded track in the mix. When you do that it maximizes those sort of sounds. Try picking up a preamp and running it through that. If you have been using one then I suppose it is a dif problem
0:18 brain freeze
Skepseis05 5 hours ago
The guitarist is so high right now.
fatcatbuzz 14 hours ago
Micing the soundhole? Never seen that done in any studio before. 12h fret or bridge but never soundhole.
musiccalgary 14 hours ago
oh yeah part 2
hgtaw 4 days ago
and then what?
hgtaw 4 days ago
thx :) thats very usefull for beginners!
sdmcafj 5 days ago
I have heard a lot of good stuff about protools. Let me see Steve Vai, a Navy Vet at a computer store who worked there as a computer sales/person techie and I think Roger McGuinn has that in his arsenal on his Apple and or Dell PC's in his home studio as well. It sounds and looks good, and I have some of it in Avid Studio but,..I can't afford a Neuman. */laughs,..so, I ask what do you think about Behringers C1U, M-1 apogee, Samson and other new usb mikes for recording guitar in layers like this?
LoveIsNotNotLove 1 week ago
I only have a SM57 that I use for electric guitar. Is it a good mic for acoustics or do you recomend getting another one? Thanks.
Aristowi 1 week ago
Do you have any recommendations for a PC based recording software? How about the shure sm57 for recording an electric guitar?
TooleralusAEnima 1 week ago
@TooleralusAEnima i assume your micing the amp, i go to a vocational school for this and we have done that. we get very good results using the 57. If we don't use that we would use an Audix D-6. great mic. cost is around $200
mastermaster10123 1 week ago
@mastermaster10123 And yes, we know its a kick drum mic...
mastermaster10123 1 week ago
hmm i thought this effect can be done by just using the 'chorus' effect?
gyeomusic 1 week ago
@gyeomusic To a degree, but the problem with a chorus effect is that it sounds like a chorus effect. This is a much more natural sounding way to do it.
kayamar 1 week ago
@kayamar thanks for the explanation ... :D
gyeomusic 1 week ago
No, I'm not singing. LOL Don't want the Mic to explode. LOL Just playing the guitar :-)
hawg427 2 weeks ago
Good video guys. I just got my AT-4040 Condenser Mic to do a little home recording of my Martin HD-28. The First thing I noticed was this great Mic is so sensitive it picks up my breathing. Since I can't hold my breath for 3-4 min..LOL I have already hit the Low Pass filter on the Mic and made my own POP Filter but the breathing still comes through. The guitarist at church said something about getting rid of it after recording?? I have PT 9.0 MP Suggestions, Thank's in advance.
hawg427 2 weeks ago
@hawg427
Breathing is a natural part of singing. Why would you try to remove it? If you're still hell bent on removing breaths, you can gate the vocals, and set the threshold to where when the vocal dies off, it'll flip the gate.
jrhager84 2 weeks ago
Why would you tap your feet while recording acoustic guitar? An acoustic mic can pick up the slightest of sounds. Your track will be cluttered with noise. FAIL
MrAmbidex1 2 weeks ago
@MrAmbidex1
Wrong. You can put dampeners on the mic stand that will absorb the thump...
jrhager84 2 weeks ago
@jrhager84 Is there a dampener on his mic stand... NO... FAIL
MrAmbidex1 2 weeks ago
@MrAmbidex1
Interesting... I didn't hear ONE SINGLE NOISE that came from his foot in the source tracks, on my Bose headphones, nor in my studio monitors... So yeah, your point is???
jrhager84 2 weeks ago
@jrhager84 I'm glad you learned the dynamics of a recording studio. Now you need to learn how to read.
MrAmbidex1 2 weeks ago
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@MrAmbidex1
Excellent suggestion. Let's break this down:
"Why would you tap your feet while recording acoustic guitar? An acoustic mic can pick up the slightest of sounds. Your track *will be* cluttered with noise. FAIL"
So, you asked WHY someone would do that, and then told them that 'your track will be cluttered with noise. FAIL.'
BUT.... That guy DID do it, and it DIDN'T clutter his track with noise. See what I did there?
Checkmate.
jrhager84 2 weeks ago
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great sound!
2PlayGuitarNow 2 weeks ago in playlist Audio Recording Techniques
What Amp Did You Guys Used on the Mic ?
hollifiel18 2 weeks ago
well you could set up a whole other track. Or why not just take what he played on the first track duplicate it to the other and then pan them l/r wouldn't that be easier then having the guitarist try to imitate the part over again?
custommade21 3 weeks ago
@custommade21
The slight variations in performance are what give it the 'space' that you hear. If you just double it, it'll sound weird, and only boost the signal of the source. If it's 100% identical, and you pan L/R, it is still centered, because it's playing equally in each speaker. Double takes make it *wide*... I suggest you try it yourself and you'll see very quickly why doubling tracks is a far better way to get width.
jrhager84 2 weeks ago
Set the recording level using the PT channel fader?
giabgr 3 weeks ago
Do they have to be "Protools" tracks? J/k. That's a great sounding mic, guitar, and musician.
jawsrock1 3 weeks ago
That's a lot of hair!
guitarslim56 3 weeks ago
I always put the mic on the 12 fret to get more tones and less bass
SjurHermanzg 4 weeks ago
uh come on! everyone who has a U67 knows how to record a guitar!
WorkflowBeats 4 weeks ago
@WorkflowBeats
You'd be surprised. Some don't. lol
jrhager84 2 weeks ago
Not being rude, but is that it? Your beginners guide to recording an acoustic guitar is: point mic at guitar and press record.
I think we could have all figured that out for ourselves. What about finding the sweet spot, explaining why you record 2 mono tracks instead of one stereo?
Like I said, not being rude, just think this could have been thought through a bit better.
anthonylanemusic 1 month ago
Hi! can you tell me something about those blue or grey panels? If this is off topic, I apologize. Just let me know where can I get info about them.
Thanks
dortola 1 month ago
Am I the only one who figured out this guys not playing the guitar live? lol.. First I noticed he's lightly stomping his left foot and it wasn't getting picked up by the mic, 2nd there's a tapping out of no where at 1:08, third, both video clips of him playing is the same clip reused.
TechJunkie198 1 month ago
The word is "and". Must you really say "eeeeeyund"?
donepearce 1 month ago
OMG!!! That guitarist is very high 0:20
rccbatv 1 month ago
Hi, Tnx for your videos. Can you please explain all that you are using ?? Mic pre? Compressor? Eq? Is that flat?
Tnx
dioburlone 1 month ago
Friggin' Neumann mics. Dayum son.
TheWhisperingCactus 1 month ago in playlist Audio Recording Techniques
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"i love them "beginner's tutorials" using professional (hi-end) equipment and software XD"
LOL. So true. This sounds amazing....think I'll just get a Neumann tomorrow.
guitarguy10000 1 month ago
So can I know what microphone did you used to record your voice in this video when you are showing us the equalizer thingy? Or does anybody know what he uses based on what you hear?
Gunbardo 2 months ago
@marlo916 yea it's a little mixer for the guitar player. In this setup the room where he is actually playing is separate from the room that the computer is in. Normally you would just plug your headphones into the mixer or preamp you're using but since it's in another room, they use these... Basically it's just to show that their studio has reached ballet status. Haha
dmatthews778 2 months ago
i think we skipped a step... that module standing next to the mic. is that a pre-amp?
marlo916 2 months ago
@marlo916 I'm guessing its just a little mixer for the artist's headphone mix so he at least has control over how loud the headphones are.
infectiousfiles 2 months ago
@marlo916 No. That's the headphone amp.
SignatureSoundStudio 1 month ago 11
i love them "beginner's tutorials" using professional (hi-end) equipment and software XD
Uebervater 2 months ago 22
@Uebervater All the techniques we are demonstrating here can be replicated with cheaper mics and whatever software you may prefer. Even if you have a mic worth 5k, placing it in the wrong spot will make it sound bad.
SignatureSoundStudio 1 month ago 22
@SignatureSoundStudio placing it in the wrong spot will make sound it bad, that's the truth. but a 5k (even a 1k) will deliver good sound at a standard position, and superior sound, if you will experiment a bit. experimentig with cheap mics will bring experience in positioning usw, but you will get stuck on the crappy sound and abusing eqs etc. todays special offers are mostly crap
Uebervater 1 month ago
@Uebervater
Not completely true. A superior mic will pick up EVERY flaw in whatever source you're recording. Hence why good singers sound AWESOME in high-end mics, and bad singers sound TERRIBLE at it. It's like good monitors: They show you everything wrong with your mix. You don't *listen* to music on good monitors; you *judge* it... LOL
Lower end mics have a lot of 'color' and 'hype' that can help tame bad sounds. Sometimes an SM57/58 is all it takes... ;-)
jrhager84 2 weeks ago
"Jacksons Taylor"..lol xD
AlexiTheWildchild 2 months ago
it sound out of fase ,and with out ambiance..a setup one mic 30 cm from guitar...and 2 ommi
let say 1 meter from player ..together they give more space..in fase
viceadmiraal61 2 months ago
what do u guys think about the Blue "Spark" Mic??
JRamirezBand 2 months ago
noiman mic! wow woopy fucking doo! protools! wooooowwwww i'm more impressed with that guys hair!
sweetgyy 2 months ago
I used to record acoustic guitars, but then I took and arrow to the knee.
zombiebuttnugett 3 months ago
@zombiebuttnugett Those comments don't belong here. And that made no sense what so ever.
Go comment on a Skyrim video or something.
TuneDeafOfficial 2 months ago
@zombiebuttnugett from recording to guard duty, sucks ass for you
tloztw 2 months ago
In this video he is using a Neumann U67 which is a vintage tube microphone.
SignatureSoundStudio 3 months ago
wat microphone is he using
gullystar 3 months ago
why dont you record 2 tracks at same time, and then split the pan?
TrochezCovers 3 months ago
@TrochezCovers This is just one example, there are many techniques and no hard fast rules. Experiment and use your ears! All the best
SignatureSoundStudio 3 months ago
@TrochezCovers Because you want to double with 2 takes. else it sounds flat and dull.
TheFlyingDanish 2 months ago
@TrochezCovers It works well to mic in stereo, but it is a different sound. Your idea is an excellent solution for a guitar part that is difficult to double accurately. But when its possible to track it twice, think of it this way; With guitar miked in stereo you are hearing six strings spread out in stereo (often quite nice), double tracking, you are hearing twelve strings, so it is more lush. Furthermore, less chance of phase problems if you dont mic carefully with two mics.
TheProgmagog 1 month ago
@TrochezCovers
Trochez, if you record two tracks at the same time, then all will have two tracks of the same signal. By law, this only increases the amplitude as the waves are combined. A second, unique performance will produce a second track of completely different wave forms, widening the characteristics of the track. Or "fattening" it, in lamens.
A duplicate track will not achieve stereo.
chuckawobbly 1 month ago
@chuckawobbly yes, i figured it out a while ago. thanks btw.... :D maybe i only double a solo or something really hard to play twice :D
TrochezCovers 1 month ago
@TrochezCovers
Only if you want a wet/dry thing going on, for example, using the second duplicate track to be heavily compressed with delay and reverb or other modulations and/or effects, whilst preserving the original track to be highlighted, sure, I guess you could use it for some interesting creativity in mixing. But you will never achieve stereo with a duplicate signal.
chuckawobbly 1 month ago
@TrochezCovers doubling guitars with two performances is the ONLY way to get the sound most powerful. It's the tiny little differences in the two signals that create this huge span of sound when you pan them. You will never get a sound as powerful as with real doubling. Just try out, you'll understand ;)
simulator94 2 weeks ago
@TrochezCovers Recording with 2 mics at the same time and panning hard left/right won't sound as 'wide' or 'big' as recording 2 separate takes. But every situation needs different techniques.
kayamar 1 week ago
@TrochezCovers FWIW, the magic of the doubling comes from the inconsistencies between the two performances. Even if the doubled track is a "tight" performance, there's going to be all kinds of differences between the two, and that's what makes the doubled part sound full. If you record the single mic onto two tracks in one pass and hard pan them, that's identical to recording in mono and leaving it center-panned. The only difference would be a level difference based on your DAW's pan law.
jpbreeze 1 hour ago
that boy needa haircut and a brace on the foot to stamp out foot smacks (although I hear his name is indeed Footsmacks Mcgillacutty)
MightySaturn5 3 months ago
That looked like a U87 to me. *shrug* And, the faders are normally post-tape, so moving them shouldn't affect the recording level, only playback level. Unless your session is set up differently.
Michael55443 3 months ago
One microphone, yes. If I only had 2,199 dollars..
cheeseforheathens 4 months ago 27
@cheeseforheathens Knock over a few banks. Audio always comes first!
SignatureSoundStudio 4 months ago 39
@cheeseforheathens No no, this is a U67 which is no longer made. One would cost more like $8000 if you find one for sale. I have excellent luck with a modern Neumann M147 which is sort of a transformerless version of the equally expensive U47. The M147 is more around the price you mentioned;) Maybe a tad more. The modern transformerless version of the U67 (I think called the M167) is about $6000.
TheProgmagog 1 month ago
@cheeseforheathens doesn't everybody have a U87?!
skatepark02 1 week ago
TUBE MICROPHONE????? WHAT THE FUCK
jeanpgv 4 months ago
@jeanpgv hey if it sounds good... it is good
metalheadshstylr 4 months ago
@metalheadshstylr by all means, but that is not a tube microphone.
jeanpgv 4 months ago
@jeanpgv
...yes it is.
KB9925512 3 months ago
@KB9925512 my apologies i heard 87
jeanpgv 3 months ago
jackson is baked off this earth.
duncanmccausland 5 months ago
hi! thank u so much for the info but I have a problem ... when I connect my mic and start to record there's a sound like air and its always in the background ... what do i have to do? thanks thanks thanks from Peru :D
blankita1525 7 months ago
@blankita1525 I didn't post this video but I know what you are talking about. If you are receiving a lot of airy/static type noise it is probably because you are running your mic straight into the computer without letting it pass through a preamp or audio interface, thus making you raise the volume of the recorded track in the mix. When you do that it maximizes those sort of sounds. Try picking up a preamp and running it through that. If you have been using one then I suppose it is a dif problem
PEskater101 6 months ago
@blankita1525 que micro usas y que interface usas para grabarlo?
rrubiocastil 5 months ago
@blankita1525 What kind of a mic are you using? How high is your preamp turned up?
BeyondtheEndMetal 5 months ago
@blankita1525 there might be a bad connection somewhere in the cables but you can use some kind of noise reduced in your program
metaknigthmaster 5 months ago
grammar nazi
VVVVVV
diperrimax 7 months ago
You spelt "steel" wrong.
JYUkulele 7 months ago
@JYUkulele Spelled** Spelt is a type of flour.
ilovemydog786 6 months ago 5
@ilovemydog786 LOL yeah i know
JYUkulele 6 months ago
@ilovemydog786 no. It just matters your country, UK/American english. Maybe they are using it wrong if they're american, but who knows?
Cds56 5 months ago