Raccoon Adorability, Nazi Propaganda & False Gods

[osheaad]

It is a STRAW-MAN ARGUMENT to say that 'Nationalism IS national supremacy'.

NATIONALISM IS HELPING THE COUNTRY, NOT SELLING IT TO FOREIGNERS!!

[osheaad]

Nationalism IS NOT national supremacy.

Nationalism IS NOT LETTING foreigners run the country.

Nationalism IS NOT BETRAYING the country for another.

[robactor]

There is simply nothing wrong with insulting and criticizing religious institutions and people of blind faith! Too long have those of us, who have always seen through the illusion of religion, been ridiculed and terrorized by the tyranny of priests and their religious lemmings! Payback time!

[derman077]

Ironically, my value system must be distorted in the same way as those kids, because I would like to see the Christians fed to lions also. lmao

[elcid2012]

Great Post Dianoir!!! Love it!!! 2012 will bring the new group of earth citizens forward to do much of what Jacque is talking about. Thanks for the post

[Syoles]

It is not "Nature vs Nurture" but nature AND nurture.

[TheVenusProjectInfo]

@Syoles "Nature via nurture" - Peter Joseph

[Eliezer18]

In Zeitgeist Addendum, Fresco refers to & idolizes technology from start to finish as a panacea & premise for human civilization. This view, evidenced BY even recent history, is dangerously flawed. Indeed, technology is the basis for the rapidly unfolding NWO total surveilence society wherein all curren(t)cy, whether of food, labor or money, is totally controlled by pathocrats. Fresco mocks & insults those with whom he disagrees & due to a malicious ignorance, he misrepresents Biblical precepts.

[Dianoir]

So, what then? Should we eliminate technology? As if tyranny did not precede the modern conveniences we take for granted! Once again, technology is nothing more than a tool! A hammer, which is typically used for carpentry, can also be used to bash someone's head in! Should we go back to living in straw huts? What is YOUR proposed solution? The Alex Jones method?...

[Syoles]

Alex Jones, as a matter of fact, had a lengthly, onesided discussion with Peter Joseph. Alex was critiquing all of what Peter Joseph had to say. Constantly interrupting him. Now, we see a documentary entitled "The obama deception". He's trying to be an anti-system celebrity. The guy is a fake, period. He frustrates the hell out of me. I'm sure you'll agree.

[Dianoir]

Shakes fist at evil Bilderburg attendees screaming "god will stop your illuminati plans!" (while raking in the cash from DVD sales, like your typical TV evangelist preacher!)

If you don't like Fresco and his proposed solutions, stop wasting your time detracting him on videos that obviously support his ideas, and go think up some of your own! Or at least back up your claims with substantial evidence!

[Eliezer18]

I didn't infer a "dislike of Fresno." In fact, I've never met the man. He does seem a fine fellow. His ideas have been submitted to the public domain, so, dissenting views are valid. The evidence of his unkind stance towards those with whom he disagrees are evident in Zeitgeist Addendum. No further "backup" is required. A false premise a proof does not make. I never suggested technology be "eliminated," only that it not be misconstrued or defined as a basis of or arbitor for human civilization.

[Zamboro]

@Eliezer18

Your post is that of a closeted theocrat who demonizes the whole idea of humanity uniting under anything other than Christianity as a fictional "new world order", as evidenced by claims that it's liberal, socialist, pro gay, godless, feminist and every other minority/sexuality/way of thought that Christian authoritarians, in their heart of hearts, long to stamp out. Rolling all of those up into a sinister sounding conspiratorial organization is how you'll justify the first strike.

[T00LIZATION]

@Eliezer18 technology and its growth doesnt hurt civilization.. people do. like the old saying "guns dont kill people. people kill people." guns are just a more advanced way of killing. if we outlawed guns tomorrow the killing statisitics wouldnt change by much cause people would just pick up sticks and frying pans to bash each others heads in with.. so should we outlaw sticks and frying pans? no cause then you are sacrificing our advancment for your own illusion of security.

[T00LIZATION]

@Eliezer18 and thats the same with survelliance cameras. should we out law those too? before we had technology back in the day of the egyptians there were dictators and tyrannts. id say your policies are flawed not frescos.. and denying the right of the people to advance, just because youre scared someone will use the technology against you, is a fasict notion itself.

[Dianoir]

The weights and measures of products are consistently misrepresented to effect higher profit. Morality is a complete illusion, where our governments and corporations engage in increasingly amoral and even maniacal behaviors. Our healthy sexual constitution is perverted and exploited so consistently and ever pervasively by media and advertising in an effort to sell us shit we don't need!

[Eliezer18]

Technology does not = civilization. Human civilization is predicated upon honest weights & measures & a moral & healthy sexual constitution. While many of the ideas put forth by Fresco may be useful, his major premise is flawed. This should be evident in the "advanced" scientific & technological underpinnings of Nazi society. Indeed, both Russia & the US scambled to absorbe Nazi scientists & technology into their respective spheres of influence & power. Nazi tech was a component OF the cold war.

[Dianoir]

Nowhere does Jacque claim Technology = Civilization! Technology does however, significantly enhance civilization. If civilization is predicated on what you put forth, what we have is something grossly misrepresentative of an actual civilization.

[Dianoir]

Jacque himself states his plans are not perfect, but his ideas would be a marked improvement. His observation that the current system generates behavior that is detrimental to a positive society is quite accurate in my opinion.

[Dianoir]

Naturally technology will be put to negative uses, such as war, and far more awfully disgusting ends. Technology is just a tool, like fire it can be used to cook food or burn flesh! It is up to us how we put our tools to work! His point is if you remove the motivation to use these tools in abhorrent ways, we can drastically improve society.

[Ali3970]

@Dianoir i agree with you! EXACTLY!!!!!!!

[FoieGras]

@Eliezer18 True, but ALL things are science, whether it's modeling the cash flow in an economy, building a luxury car, or even making a pair of sneakers. His stance is that we can direct science in a direction to benefit people, not destroy people - move science in a direction to improve general welfare rather than build weapons of mass destruction (or do things in which he thinks are 'useless' like abstract particle physics). That's a very realistic view, in my opinion.

[FoieGras]

The problem is that there is disconnect between money and resources that actually MATTER like food, so while technology is supposed to make things better (and as things are, there's no reason why it can't be accessed by the majority), fewer and fewer people can afford it