Pastor Tony Smith: The LORD said unto My Lord

[RealDeal3839]

The bible says jesus is the son of god. If you have a son would your son be you or your son. He would be you and your son. Its not that hard to figure out. The son of god was on the cross praying to his father God...

[RealDeal3839]

Man is the head of women-Jesus is the head of man-God is the head of jesus... Right?

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 Now if U could please go back and address the other Questions of Scripture I brought up! Plus U did not explain waht U meant when U said the Key word is 'FORM"! What does that mean? What are U trying to say? U have to explain the whole verse becuz just U saying "the Key word is FORM" is not explaining anything! Lest deal with what I presented first than we can go on to your Questions! BE FAIR OK!

[RealDeal3839]

@redman4853 I'm still waiting for you to tell me whom jesus was praying to on the cross...

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 I did give U the answer, I said Jesus the Flesh in which is the Son of God prayed to the Father/ABBA! Why is Abba used here? Father & Son just as Prophecied in Prov 30:4-U have YET to refute it!

Right-No Man has seen God, God is a SPIRIT which dwell in FLESH-How can a MAN be Born of a virgin but yet say he has SEEN Abtaham & MUSA? How can a man be born & yet be the ROOT & OFFSPRING of DAVID? How is Jesus called the SAVIOUR & Alpha & Omega? Either YHWH is a LIAR or JEsus is GOD!

[jamjr1972]

@redman4853 "ALL PRAISES TO THE MOST HOLY SHIB'BO'LETH!"; AND "GLORY TO MY KING JE'SUS! YE"IS"US! YES'US!" "ALL BLESSINGS TO YOU YAC'OB!" "ALL BLESSINGS TO MY KING'S OTHER FLOCK";"CHRISTIANS FOR THE CHRIST!" "YHWH IS EPHRAIM'S YID'ISH!" "I SEE RIGHT THROUGH "THE JUDAH'ISH "ADOPTED" STATE!" REVELATION 1:6-8 "YAH'O'VEH'S WIT'NESSES" SAY "THE EGYPTIANS gODD" OF "EPHRAIM" IS "THE AWE MIGHTY!" (THEY SAY LET'S STICK TO SCRIPTURES) "I POLISH MY MASTER'S CROWN WITH:" ZECHARIAH 14:5 "THE MO'SHI'YAC!"

[redman4853]

@jamjr1972 I am sorry my friend, but I have no Idea what U are talking about! Are U bashing me or teaching me or what? I saw what U wrote on the YT video "Peace Deception" & I just want to say, what is your POINT? I understand the preaching but for what? OK U say the Cross is false but I would like to say-NOONE WORSHIPS THE CROSS! We Worship God & God alone! What is your Mission here? U say Praise to YHWH & Blessings to King for Christians for CHrist & on the other hand U use egyptian god, WHY?

[jamjr1972]

@redman4853 "MY DEAR BROTHER" "YOU SPEAK AS AN ISRAELITE!" "I SUPPORT YOU!" "I'M NOT TEACH'N NOR BASH'N!" "I AM SHARE'N "THE LION'S MEAT I GOT FROM MY MASTER'S TABLE WITH YOU!";"MY BROTHER!" "YOU SPEAK WITH THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST";"MY MY POINT?" "TO CONFESS WITH MY MOUTH AND LIFT UP YAC'OB!";"THE HOUSE OF JESUS CHRIST!" "NO'ONE WORSHIP THE CROSS?" "ESAU DOETH!" ISAIAH 46:7 "I DON'T PRAISE YHWH" "THAT'S A HID'N CURSE OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE!" "I GIVE MY PRAISES TO "SHIB'BO'LETH!" JUDGES 12:4-6

[redman4853]

@jamjr1972 OK, I gotcha (smiles)!

Sahlom

[jamjr1972]

@redman4853 "SHALOM" IS "YID'ISH!" "EPHRAIM-(SADUCEES)THE JUDAH'ISH/ZION'IST MAD SCIENTIST(OLD ISRAEL) AMOS 5:26 ,EZEKIEL 35 RIGHT ALONG "WITH" "THE OTHER FALSE PROPHETS ESAU-(SCRIBES)/ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH ISAIAH 46:7, ISHMAEL-(PHARISEES)/ISLAM HABAKKUK 2:11. "BROTHA LOOK AND SEE!";"JUDGE RELIGION BY IT'S FRUITS!" LEVITICUS 26:1 "SERACH THE BASKETS OF RELIGION!" JESUS IS THE UN'LEAVEN'D BREAD!" "RELIGION IS THE BREAD THAT LEAVEN'D THE WHOLE WORLD!"; "RELIGION IS JACOB'S FOUR HORNS!" BE BLESS'D!

[RealDeal3839]

@redman4853 you lack understanding about the father and his son...

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 U have yet to show any PROOF what so ever that I am in ERROR! In fact please explain the Father Son concept with none of your assertions! U say I lack understanding of Son & Father, please what do U have to say? Where am I in Error? If U have no answers from scripture than U are to bow before YAHSHUA & REPENT!!!!!!!!!!

[RealDeal3839]

@redman4853 You better repent for saying jusus is God. Dont forget the messages you have left on here. Go back and read what you left and look at how you changed what you wrote. If jesus was God he wouldnt say the way to my father is threw me. i've already corrected you with scripture. All praise belongs to God. God is the head of jesus. Dont try to tell people anything different. I've kept my same position the whole time read what i left...

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 I clearly showed U God can be in Heaven & on Earth at same time Gen 19:24! Go to the HEBREW if U want but I need to To try to REFUTE something! OK

[jamjr1972]

@RealDeal3839 "ALL PRAISES TO THE MOST HOLY SHIB'BO'LETH!"; AND "GLORY TO MY KING JE'SUS! YE"IS"US! YES'US!" "A'MAN!" (JESUS ONLY!)

[TmlnDiaz]

just like we function in 3 body, soul and spirit we are a trinity in one flesh. God is The Father The Son and The Holy Spirit The Holy Trinity But one God! But because he is God he can do ALL things "He is the Creator", Any more questions?

[IntomeC]

If Jesus is God, than who was he talking to on the cross when he said, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do."? Was he talking to him self?

[redman4853]

IntomeC, YES! Please explain WHAT IS GOING ON=as YHWH was creating the Earth in Gen WHO was God speaking too: Gen 1:3 And God said!,6 And God said etc! Also=Let US make man in OUR image, Who IS he TALKING TOO? It can not be the angles becuz Isaiah 37:16 say God was ALONE when He created the heaven & earth! Now lets go a bit deeper=GEN 19:24 it seems God is on earth & in heaven at same time! Back up to Gen 18:1-10, YHWH is ON EARTH IN PHYSICAL BODY! Please explain this than we can go further!

[IntomeC]

redman4853

That's what I'm trying to figure out??? If Jesus is God All Mighty because, Jesus said if you've seen me than you've seen the Father right??

[redman4853]

IntoeC, YEs Jesus is YHWH in FLESH! Gen 19:24 is the Key verses that explain God as being in heaven & walking on earth at the same time! No one can deny it, for it is written in the HEBREW writings NOT EVEN A JEW! Isaih 9:6 even make claim of YHWH being born as a Child & John 5:3 JEsus even say for in the SCRIPTURES (OT) they TESTIFY of ME! In Num 23:19 it clearly say God can not be a man THAT LIE or son of man that would REPENT? So DID JESUS LIE & REPENT? NO! He is God in flesh!

[RealDeal3839]

@redman4853 If jesus is GOD whom was jesus praying to when he was on the cross? Himself orGOD?

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 OK, we no the Bible is CLEAR, the "WORD" has many titles to fufill prophecy, but to answer your Q, it is the Father! If we go to Prov 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

SO WHO IS GODS SONS NAME?

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 Also to give U More UNDERSTANDING:

Phil 2:5-8 CHRIST JESUS...being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

1 John 3:16 "Hereby perceive we the love of GOD, because he LAID DOWN HIS LIFE for us...

[RealDeal3839]

@redman4853 The book says jesus being in the form of God..  Key word FORM...

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 Also Phil 2:5-8 ...CHRIST JESUS...being in the FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." Now what are THOSE BEFORE U & ME saying here about JESUS & GOD?

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 Now I want to ask U another thing, What is Jesus saying from his own mouth John 8:56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Now what are the JEWS Claiming Jesus is saying in John 8:57 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

ARe they saying JESUS is making the claim to have SEEN ABRAHAM? if so When did Jesus visit Abraham becuz he is ONLY 50 yrs old & Abraham is DEAD! So as I answer your Q U need to answer mine

[RealDeal3839]

@redman4853 Has any human ever seen god? Has god ever died? Would god need to be baptized by man? If jesus is God you would he have any thought of being equal with god if he is god?

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 OK, U have YET to answer my Questions, first things first! Stop acting like a Muslim!

U did bother to address one of them-Jesus being in the Form of God. OK, If U read the Verse, Jesus said HE MADE HIMSELF took upon the servant! Jesus also is said to HUMBLE HIMSELF! How can a MAN do this? He say Being in the FORM of GOD! This form was BEFORE God/Word became FLESH. So The WORd thought it not ROBBERY to be like the father in Heaven so he HIMSELF made HIMSELF as a SERVANT!

[RealDeal3839]

@redman4853 Simple common sense question you did'nt answer. Who was on the cross Jesus or God? And whom was that person praying to himself or whom? answer that...

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 Simple common sense question you did'nt answer. Who was on the cross Jesu...!

If U do not believe God can be in more than one place at one time than U are REJECTING the OT my friend- Gen 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; Here we have a YWHW in Heaven & one on EARTH but there is ONE GOD!!! This YHWH on Earth is the same one in Gen 18:1-8 that came down AS A MAN!!!!

SO I DID ANSWER, U HAVE YET TO REFUTE IT!

[RealDeal3839]

@redman4853 Read john 3:16 threw 18 The book tells you whom God sent and whom he is. The father the son and the holy spirit are one. You have to understand what that means. God says Jesus is his son you should praise that.

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 Right Jesus has a Title of Gods son becuz it was PROPHESIED IN OT=Prov 30:4Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? Isiah 9:6 the Baby is called ELGEBOOR, EVER LASTING FATHER=who is it? See, again I have to repeat myself & yet U have yet TO REFUTE ANY SCRIPTURE to MY SCRIPTURE!

[RealDeal3839]

@redman4853 Your acting like something worse than a muslim. God wont have to question or think about being like himself he is God...

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 U say "God wont have to question or think about being like himself he is God", So U are speaking for YHWH? Show me God can not do this if God wants too? The bible is CLEAR & I want Scripture to REFUTE it= 1 Tim 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the FLESH...", 1 John 3:16 "Hereby perceive we the love of GOD, because he LAID DOWN HIS LIFE for us... CAN U TELL ME WHO THIS IS?

[RealDeal3839]

@redman4 OK lets cutt to the chase you show me in the bible where it says Jesus is not the son of God and i'll show you where it says he is the son of god...

[redman4853]

@RealDeal3839 Listen, Jesus has MANY titles to fufill Prophecy-He was the LAMB, KING, MESSIAH, Son of MAN, Son of GOD, PROPHET, SAVIOUR, ALPHA & OMEGA, the I AM that I AM, CREATOR of UNIV, the WORD ect. SO JESUS IS THE SON of GOD, remember Prov 30:4, so there is no argument here my friend! Let me ask U-WHo is the Alpah & Omega, The only Saviour, Creator of the UNIV, Judge the World, Redeemer, Forgives Sin, WHO IS THIS? Sound like God RIGHT well IT IS YAHSHUA! Please refute it with Scripture

[RealDeal3839]

redman; You think jesus is God people have laid eyes on jesus . Lets see what the book says. 1john4:12 No man hath seen God at anytime. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 1timothy6:16 Who only hath immortality. Dwelling in the light, whom no human being has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and everlasting rule! amen. john1:18 No man seen God at any time the only regotten son' which is in bosom of the father. REFUTE that with scripture???

[jamjr1972]

@RealDeal3839 @redman4853 "I LAY AT MY MASTER'S FEET AND WHILE I LAY AT THE BOTTOM IN THIS OPPRESSION" "I STILL POLISH MY MASTER'S CROWN!" REVELATION 1:6 "A'MAN! (JESUS CHRIST!) ZECHARIAH 14:5 "A'MAN!" (JESUS CHRIST!) ISAIAH 45:15 "A'MAN!" (JESUS CHRIST!) EXODUS 23:20-24 "A'MAN!" (JESUS CHRIST!) ISAIAH 45:11 (GOTTA LIST'N CLOSE TO THE WORDS!) "A'MAN!" (JESUS CHRIST!)

[kandiburbslammed]

@redman4853 You miss read the verse. It's not saying The Most High is alone. I say that he alone created everything. The Messiah (Christ) was the first of thing John 1:1-14. Talking about Christ he the only begotten because he was created first.

[rpierre777]

@kandiburbslammed Actually, Jesus is the only-begotten because He is the only Son of God begotten, or born, of a woman. Many people us Prv 8:22 to make the claims that Jesus was the first "thing" created. Unfortunately, they don't read the entire chapter to help them understand the point.

[kandiburbslammed]

@rpierre777 I know he is the only begotten son of the father. What is your point?

[rpierre777]

@kandiburbslammed My point is: Being the first begotten has nothing to do with being the first created. Christ did not receive life from the Father. He IS the eternal life from the Father. (1 Jn 5:20) Christ was not created, He is the creator. (Jn 1:3)

[kandiburbslammed]

@rpierre777 I know all that. My statement was typed very very wrong.

[MUN7001]

@IntomeC yeah, because Jesus and God are one in the same