i agree that kirby's final smash sucks cuz any character can just do sheild+down right before he clangs his spoons to avoid the final smash. but kirby's still one of my main characters
I wonder how long it will take people to figure out that I specifically said in the vid that I DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MY OWN SUCKING AT PULLING OFF DK'S FS. What I DID take into account was crappy power, range, and fairly easily dodged.
In your own video you almost killed that other kirby when it had NO DAMAGE. Not anyone can dodge it in the 1st place, but add other characters trying to kill u, with items, and stage hazzards doing god knows what, and tell me if u can dodge it every time. I guess you're too bad to play as a character that needs SOME SKILL to play as. I'm not arguing with a retard any more.
If anyone sucked in has ANY damage, it has good enough knock back. Items don't suck, some are crap, but most r easy to kill some1 with, AND if they have damage, they won't b able to get the items b 4 u can. If the person knows how to dodge it, then play mind games with them. Not only will they not directly attack and run away, but u can attack them as much as u want without using ur fs. If people r fighting, try using it when they're too busy fighting, so they have a lesser chance of dodgein.
thats not true u can dodge kirby's special if u roll right when he pulls everything in but it requires perfect timing i dodge it like 1 out of every 5 times
Go be gay somewhere else. How does kirby's final smash suck? Items, EASY TO KILL SOME 1 WITH, easy to kill some1 if they survive, and good enpugh knockback to use the items that come out before your opponents recover. Does that suck? I don't think so.
I stopped reading after Items. Then I kept reading. Then I decided to inform you how completely retarded you are.
What part of the fact taht:
1. No it is not easy to kill with. You have to either go to the very top of the freaking stage, or UNDERNEATH the stage, and still hook them in to ever have a prayer of killing them.
2. you do realize Kirby lags for about 3 seconds after the damn thing is over. Anyone can easily get back under control before you're back in the game.
3. Good enough knockback? It has no knockback. His Forward Smash has more knockback. WITHOUT A CHARGE.
4. Items suck, and anyone can easily use the items you get from the pot against you
5. IT IS PAINFULLY EASY TO DODGE. EVEN IF YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF RANGE, 1 sidestep, 1 FRICKIN SIDESTEP, and not only have you dodged the FS, you have a perfect scenario to completely exploit it, and the Kirby who dared use his shitty FS is now completely fucked.
ZSS Was alright...it had a big knock back damage and could kill if the oppenent was at 40% or more and MKs was1 of the best in my opinion cuz if there over 50 - 60% Then its a 1 hit kill
The attack is EASY AS HECK to dodge, even if he gets 1 person, the other 2 can easily dodge it, plus, the person he traps is very unlikely to die unless they are at about 70%.
Perspective: SuperSonic can kill around 50%. Link and Toon Link can kill at pretty much any percent. Even JIGGS can kill more easily than MK, because her FS sets her up to Wall of Pain people. MK's is virtually useless other than adding 40% to their total.
i think pikachu's final smash was terribly thought out...since when was volt tackle a flying move?and its blue...pikachu's volt tackle final smash should be like ganon's he should be have like a super saiyan aura going and a speedy dash like marth's.
pikachus final smash would of been sick and make a lot more sense if he does numerous lightnings (about 7 in random places but near opponent) then shell do one somewhat big thunder in the middle of the stage that will electrocute the whole ground meaning if you was on the ground and the thunder hit the ground you get paralyzed for a few seconds maybe 3 or 4 seconds. now anybody out there that read this comment tell me that wouldnt be nice, well i know its better than the fuc$ing blue ball =D
It traps people. It kills people. It racks up a crapload of damage. You can still use normal attacks while it is active. You are invincible. Need I say more?
You say that meta knight has bad range but in fact its great. Even if you hit only one person it hits EVERYONE that is in the match. Not only that but the cape actually has a fair range you just have to use it properly.
i agree with all except meta knight. it is actually very easy to hit with, and hitting one person hits everybody else. i dont think its one of the best, but it isnt one of the worst
I actually agree in most cases, except King Dedede, his Final Smash is actually on of the games better, it reaches the entire stage, can force enemies off the stage, is impossible to avoid, and even if you survive you're still dead, as Dedede is such a raw chunk of power he can knock any character out with ease.
Other then that you have some valid points, but forgot some details.
G&W has a very powerful, comboable, and large FS. The only efficient way to avoid it is to jump on and off of the edges until it ends. The big flaw, though, is its tendency to cause suicide, since you may THINK it flies, until you die because 2 jumps don't save you.
Konga Beat is inaccurate and it IS weak. But it has a good range. You just mashed the buttons. That doesn't do any crap. Not that I disagree with you, or want to spam you. I do agree with the items you put up there though.
Well, I did most certainly factor that I suck at using the FS into my decision. I went by its inaccuracy, its lack of kill power most of the time, and the fact that, unless you put yourself in the VERY center of a stage, with really small stages being an exception, you aren't going to hit the whole stage.
Kirby: range is dependent on their damage. Also, you have to get them to a much higher damage to kill them with the FS than you do a C-sticked Fsmash. And pulling a C-Stick FSmash successfully is easier.
DK: it may be easy to use, but if you look at some of my other posts, you'll know why I think it blows. Ease of input is one of the least important factors of using an FS.
And yes, I know MK is the best character in the game.
It isn't hard. Easy Input doesn't make a FS good. Everyone knows how to sidestep and dodge it, and you don't even need to if you can RUN. The only saving grace of Kirby's FS is to activate it at the top of the screen.
really? I suppose you haven't looked in a mirror, dumbass. "Most fucking idiot?" just how stupid are you? You are what gives Brawl players a bad name.
ok kirby's smash does not suck one bit. 1. IT LOOKS COOL. 2. pretty much u get near kirby when he uses it ur in the pot. 3. yaa it may have bad damage but if you have damaged the opponents enough beforehand like 60%, YOU CAN GET A KILL. 4. Replaces all items near it. 5. can do damage and kill multiple opponents at one time.
1. It looks like shit. 2. It's called a sidestep, 3. You have to have over 100 to get a kill if the opponent is remotely competent at DI. 4. Sometimes they backfire, sometimes the opponent gets them because they DODGED. 5. Again, it's called a sidestep.
You quite clearly don't know what you're talking about.
well he maynot, but i do while i agree that it does look stupid, u can get kils prety easily with it if u know how (mostly for 4 at a time matches and on small stages) 1. either distract ur opponents or get them into the air 2. get up as high as u can in the center of the stage and press b, if it sucks ANYONE up u have an incredible chance of killing them, i think this goes well with kirby because hes an air machine,
I agree with them exept for DK's, u gotta tap a when he hits the drums, go on to training and try his final smash (put the speed on 1/4) and u will see this small target appear, when that shrinks, hit a, don't go mad like u did in the movie lol
Well, I really wasn't going by my ability to do that, I realize it is very powerful, I was ranking it by its crap range and the level of difficulty in controlling it to the best of its potential. When I filmed this, I didn't know you hit the a button right after the green shockwaves appear, I thought you had to hit in conjunction, which either requires button-mashing, or psychic powers. =(
okay i'm sorry, but that is just wrong, i do agree that all the kirby characters suck, but dk and samus's are good, and not trying to go against what you said in the description, but you clearly just can't do dk's...i would put instead of those two, game and watch, and probably luigi or lucas(mainly because i don't like him ^_^)...again, just saying...
Well, Kirby's has a HUGE range and it's VERY easy to get at least 2 or 1 brawlers in the pot. I even use him and he is awesome! DK's you need to go with the music. ZZS is good becayse it lets you become samus again! Meta knight's is good (unless you are a good dodger). Kibg Dedede's is hard to avoid (unless it is in a huge stage)
I can see your point in some aspects. However, a few things I think are worth mentioning:-
1. Kirby's final smash can be devastating if done right, try flying UNDER the stage and executing it = instant kill.
2. Zero Suit's isn't great but it's more of a way to get back to being Samus than anything.
3. DK's FS is much more effective if you TIME your A presses to the beat instead of hammering it, on a medium sized stage it can be difficult to avoid.
Also, I can see where you're coming from about Dedede, but bear in mind that it's one of those Smashes that is based on luck, i.e one turn it can be useless and the next get a couple of kills. It just depends on how it hits and where your opponent's standing, like Lucas'. Try and use it as a battering ram more than damage inducer, like Piplup, force your opponents off the edge. Oh, and with all due respect how can Peach's not be on the list? Worst...Final Smash...ever.
Yeah, but with Peach's, you can hit people with it when they are over the death zone, and helplessly kill them. Problem with your Kirby theory: it is very easy to time the dodge right, then you, being Kirby, will die. ZSS is better than regular Samus.
I see the theory of what you're suggesting with Peach but in practice I've never actually seen it happen. A fair few recent matches with her and another come to mind, each time she hit it the other character was off the stage and it simply didn't affect them, I think you either have to be on the ground or really unlucky with the timing, it's more effective on ground. I've seen about a 90% success ration with Kirby's in general but meh. As a fighter ZSS pwns Samus but the latter's Smash is better
Meta Knight as #2? Meta Knight's is better than ZSS's.
Also, Mr. Game and Watch NEEDS to be on this list. Lucario's isn't that great, either. Nor are Ness or Lucas's. (I just noticed, both Mother characters names' end with 's' `-`)
And some final smashes are very situational. Like DeDeDe's. His Final Smash owns in 4-player brawls.
I was thinking about putting G&W on there, but when I tested it out knowing how to use it, it was really good due to the difficulty of avoiding it and its power. Ness and Lucas are all about luck. Sometimes, their FS will massacre people by comboing them, other times, it is painfully easy to dodge. Lucario has good kill power as long as they are at moderate damage and like every other one of his attacks, grows more powerful the more damage he takes.
If you get hit by ZSS FS, you are in for a WORLD of hurt. Also, when I faced
sonicboom457 online once, the only times he EVER hit me with his FS as Metaknight were when the cape hit me, and he specifically went after me! Seriously, just aerial dodge repeatedly and you'll be fine if the cape didn't hit you, but it hit someone else. Dedede, no. Just no. It is too fucking random, too fucking weak, and WAY too fucking gay. (see BRAWL TAUNTS)
Well,I think King Dedede's is very good cause you dont need to aim or anything,just activate.and to use DK's final u need to push the A button(or watever controller your using) at the right time for HUGE shockwaves.
peach's can do 40 damage, let u restore 60 and put them 2 sleep
amazinawesome 4 months ago
jiggly puff's is the worst couldn't do a thing to me at 287%
amazinawesome 4 months ago
i agree that kirby's final smash sucks cuz any character can just do sheild+down right before he clangs his spoons to avoid the final smash. but kirby's still one of my main characters
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belfastboy15 1 year ago
I wonder how long it will take people to figure out that I specifically said in the vid that I DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MY OWN SUCKING AT PULLING OFF DK'S FS. What I DID take into account was crappy power, range, and fairly easily dodged.
attackofthekirby 2 years ago
dk fs is not that hard to pull off. you just need to press a to the rythym of the beat
i admit it is kinda hard but not really
yodasahil 2 years ago
think it should be like fighter kirby with a killer combo.
kirbyhugger1 2 years ago
D:
I main Kirby! You just don't know what you're talking about.
attackofthekirby 2 years ago
no, zach does. here my top five worst FS:
1. Peach
2. Ness/Lucas
3. R.O.B
4. Ice Climbers
5. Jigglelypuff
AdpBalla 2 years ago
R.O.B?!
timson622222 2 years ago 2
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In your own video you almost killed that other kirby when it had NO DAMAGE. Not anyone can dodge it in the 1st place, but add other characters trying to kill u, with items, and stage hazzards doing god knows what, and tell me if u can dodge it every time. I guess you're too bad to play as a character that needs SOME SKILL to play as. I'm not arguing with a retard any more.
zeeke3392 2 years ago
@zeeke3392 Umm no, that other Kirby had like 60% damage... 65, I think.
MarioMan658 1 year ago
If anyone sucked in has ANY damage, it has good enough knock back. Items don't suck, some are crap, but most r easy to kill some1 with, AND if they have damage, they won't b able to get the items b 4 u can. If the person knows how to dodge it, then play mind games with them. Not only will they not directly attack and run away, but u can attack them as much as u want without using ur fs. If people r fighting, try using it when they're too busy fighting, so they have a lesser chance of dodgein.
zeeke3392 2 years ago
thats not true u can dodge kirby's special if u roll right when he pulls everything in but it requires perfect timing i dodge it like 1 out of every 5 times
jmastermo 2 years ago
Go be gay somewhere else. How does kirby's final smash suck? Items, EASY TO KILL SOME 1 WITH, easy to kill some1 if they survive, and good enpugh knockback to use the items that come out before your opponents recover. Does that suck? I don't think so.
zeeke3392 2 years ago
I stopped reading after Items. Then I kept reading. Then I decided to inform you how completely retarded you are.
What part of the fact taht:
1. No it is not easy to kill with. You have to either go to the very top of the freaking stage, or UNDERNEATH the stage, and still hook them in to ever have a prayer of killing them.
2. you do realize Kirby lags for about 3 seconds after the damn thing is over. Anyone can easily get back under control before you're back in the game.
to be continued..
attackofthekirby 2 years ago
3. Good enough knockback? It has no knockback. His Forward Smash has more knockback. WITHOUT A CHARGE.
4. Items suck, and anyone can easily use the items you get from the pot against you
5. IT IS PAINFULLY EASY TO DODGE. EVEN IF YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF RANGE, 1 sidestep, 1 FRICKIN SIDESTEP, and not only have you dodged the FS, you have a perfect scenario to completely exploit it, and the Kirby who dared use his shitty FS is now completely fucked.
now go away, you freaking n00b.
attackofthekirby 2 years ago
oh sry i saw that u said it was possible and i agree with u on that it is a rly good fs
jmastermo 2 years ago
ZSS Was alright...it had a big knock back damage and could kill if the oppenent was at 40% or more and MKs was1 of the best in my opinion cuz if there over 50 - 60% Then its a 1 hit kill
CarmageddonHero 2 years ago
what i mean is that if u caught 1 person but missed every body else it still hits them
13stephenS 2 years ago
The reason why that doesn't make it suck less:
The attack is EASY AS HECK to dodge, even if he gets 1 person, the other 2 can easily dodge it, plus, the person he traps is very unlikely to die unless they are at about 70%.
Perspective: SuperSonic can kill around 50%. Link and Toon Link can kill at pretty much any percent. Even JIGGS can kill more easily than MK, because her FS sets her up to Wall of Pain people. MK's is virtually useless other than adding 40% to their total.
attackofthekirby 2 years ago
wat do you say about Captain Falcon FS?
it's almost the same thing as MK: bad range, bad knockback, easy to dodge and does low damage (around 35 or 40 i think).
MarioMan658 1 year ago
i disagree on metanight if u have more than 1 player or cpu it hits all of them
13stephenS 2 years ago
i think pikachu's final smash was terribly thought out...since when was volt tackle a flying move?and its blue...pikachu's volt tackle final smash should be like ganon's he should be have like a super saiyan aura going and a speedy dash like marth's.
megazelda2 2 years ago
pikachus final smash would of been sick and make a lot more sense if he does numerous lightnings (about 7 in random places but near opponent) then shell do one somewhat big thunder in the middle of the stage that will electrocute the whole ground meaning if you was on the ground and the thunder hit the ground you get paralyzed for a few seconds maybe 3 or 4 seconds. now anybody out there that read this comment tell me that wouldnt be nice, well i know its better than the fuc$ing blue ball =D
killerxzero 2 years ago
thank you!someone understands my friends say pika's fm is good iam saying when the hell did pika fly?!
megazelda2 2 years ago
hell yeah youre right
VeryBigLama 2 years ago
what no jiggly puff? that is the most useless
Devngel 2 years ago
I TOTALLY agree with the smashes. Nice job :-)
jonathon2goals 2 years ago
No disrespect but why wasnt ROB no.1 let alone ON the list?
CapcomClassic619 2 years ago
It traps people. It kills people. It racks up a crapload of damage. You can still use normal attacks while it is active. You are invincible. Need I say more?
attackofthekirby 2 years ago
Thank you.
mafatu32 2 years ago
you know what's weird, kirby can cook poke balls and bombs.
iluvmypuddycat 3 years ago
What The loody Fucin hell? i like kirby , and all other from pinkie's universe!
You fat bastard
SonicArena1 3 years ago
1. there is not 1 sentence there with proper grammatical structure.
2. you gave absolutely no reasons, and you flamed my vid, READ THE DESCRIPTION, B1TCH.
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
i love how you button mash on DK final smash. you're supposed to hit A in pattern of the beat.
wtfmandudeguy 3 years ago
How many freaking times must I explain that I did not factor my own incompetence at using the FS at the time of the production of this vid!?
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
I respect your opinion but I don't think Meta Knight should be up there.
zinamaspana 3 years ago
You say that meta knight has bad range but in fact its great. Even if you hit only one person it hits EVERYONE that is in the match. Not only that but the cape actually has a fair range you just have to use it properly.
Shuruto3 3 years ago
you apparently dont like kirby characters cause meta knights is awsome.
flashkirby1 3 years ago 3
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zinamaspana 3 years ago
kirbys final smash rox, meta knights too
sparkrange 3 years ago 5
i agree with all except meta knight. it is actually very easy to hit with, and hitting one person hits everybody else. i dont think its one of the best, but it isnt one of the worst
ericm6 3 years ago
Meta Knight's final smash is pretty good. I like it. The best final smash is Lucario's
ninjan7ckmaniac 3 years ago
I actually agree in most cases, except King Dedede, his Final Smash is actually on of the games better, it reaches the entire stage, can force enemies off the stage, is impossible to avoid, and even if you survive you're still dead, as Dedede is such a raw chunk of power he can knock any character out with ease.
Other then that you have some valid points, but forgot some details.
DarthiPanda 3 years ago
Remember the ability CRASH?? That should of been the final smash of Kirby
CrashvsWWE 3 years ago 3
Now that is a pretty good idea. I was thinking that it should have been Paint insted.
By the way, to me, Kirby's Final smash actually has a pretty good range and at least some knockback in it.
cinosybrick 3 years ago
poor kirby:( they never give him good final smashes when hes so good!
ednash123 3 years ago
KingBrenn 3 years ago
G&W has a very powerful, comboable, and large FS. The only efficient way to avoid it is to jump on and off of the edges until it ends. The big flaw, though, is its tendency to cause suicide, since you may THINK it flies, until you die because 2 jumps don't save you.
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
OK...
Konga Beat is inaccurate and it IS weak. But it has a good range. You just mashed the buttons. That doesn't do any crap. Not that I disagree with you, or want to spam you. I do agree with the items you put up there though.
timson622222 3 years ago
Well, I did most certainly factor that I suck at using the FS into my decision. I went by its inaccuracy, its lack of kill power most of the time, and the fact that, unless you put yourself in the VERY center of a stage, with really small stages being an exception, you aren't going to hit the whole stage.
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
well...dk isnt THE BEST, but its up there. sonic's is the best fs
keneke45 3 years ago
wow...
here's why I think you're wrong on some of them
kirby-useful for grabbing nearby enemies without much input
zss-I agree
dk-one of THE BEST fs's. all you have to do it hit a when he hits his drum-simple
metanight- what do you expect from the strongest character in the game? it balances him out(ps, he's number 1 top tier if you didnt know)
ddd-I agree, but it gets annoying for the other players.
oddly enough, I agree with you on some points, but on the other characters...no.
keneke45 3 years ago
Here's where I disagree:
Kirby: range is dependent on their damage. Also, you have to get them to a much higher damage to kill them with the FS than you do a C-sticked Fsmash. And pulling a C-Stick FSmash successfully is easier.
DK: it may be easy to use, but if you look at some of my other posts, you'll know why I think it blows. Ease of input is one of the least important factors of using an FS.
And yes, I know MK is the best character in the game.
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
dk is light input. how hard is it to press a on the beat?
yes kirby's fs is weak, but it easily traps nearby enemies if they dont know to side step and dodge
keneke45 3 years ago
It isn't hard. Easy Input doesn't make a FS good. Everyone knows how to sidestep and dodge it, and you don't even need to if you can RUN. The only saving grace of Kirby's FS is to activate it at the top of the screen.
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
glad ROB wasnt #1 worst, thank you
mafatu32 3 years ago
Hi Michael
Sasquatch324 3 years ago
you have to be the most fucking idiot ive ever seen
dirk12345666 3 years ago
really? I suppose you haven't looked in a mirror, dumbass. "Most fucking idiot?" just how stupid are you? You are what gives Brawl players a bad name.
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
dude you suck so bad you even suck your moms dick
dirk12345666 3 years ago
you have to be the most fucking dumbass ive ever heard.
mechwarrior42b 3 years ago
ok kirby's smash does not suck one bit. 1. IT LOOKS COOL. 2. pretty much u get near kirby when he uses it ur in the pot. 3. yaa it may have bad damage but if you have damaged the opponents enough beforehand like 60%, YOU CAN GET A KILL. 4. Replaces all items near it. 5. can do damage and kill multiple opponents at one time.
ALostHo 3 years ago
1. It looks like shit. 2. It's called a sidestep, 3. You have to have over 100 to get a kill if the opponent is remotely competent at DI. 4. Sometimes they backfire, sometimes the opponent gets them because they DODGED. 5. Again, it's called a sidestep.
You quite clearly don't know what you're talking about.
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
well he maynot, but i do while i agree that it does look stupid, u can get kils prety easily with it if u know how (mostly for 4 at a time matches and on small stages) 1. either distract ur opponents or get them into the air 2. get up as high as u can in the center of the stage and press b, if it sucks ANYONE up u have an incredible chance of killing them, i think this goes well with kirby because hes an air machine,
5 jumps with aerials in between
makes for the perfect air machine
lol it rymes
ihave2cows 3 years ago
DK's is pretty good. it's just the timing you need
sekretguy777 3 years ago
ddd's is whack
redsox8333 3 years ago
ZSS's sucks because it turns you into Samus, insantly making you worse.
E123Brawler 3 years ago
ever think about hitting your opponents afterward? just a thought...
gameboyX 3 years ago
Metaknights FS can ko at 40% so its gd. King dededes is...wierd but also funny :P DK's u need timin.
pichu2k7 3 years ago
DIing can save your ass at almost any percentage under 200%. With proper DI, it really can't kill you unless you were at 60%
Plus, it also matters where you use it, close to the top, or down at the bottom?
(I've survived into the 150s as Kirby against Ike with DI)!!!
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
I agree with them exept for DK's, u gotta tap a when he hits the drums, go on to training and try his final smash (put the speed on 1/4) and u will see this small target appear, when that shrinks, hit a, don't go mad like u did in the movie lol
jettling 3 years ago
Well, I really wasn't going by my ability to do that, I realize it is very powerful, I was ranking it by its crap range and the level of difficulty in controlling it to the best of its potential. When I filmed this, I didn't know you hit the a button right after the green shockwaves appear, I thought you had to hit in conjunction, which either requires button-mashing, or psychic powers. =(
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
okay i'm sorry, but that is just wrong, i do agree that all the kirby characters suck, but dk and samus's are good, and not trying to go against what you said in the description, but you clearly just can't do dk's...i would put instead of those two, game and watch, and probably luigi or lucas(mainly because i don't like him ^_^)...again, just saying...
Mochtroid127 3 years ago
I would disagree.
How would D3 or Kirby's FS be worse than Luigi's? His requires you to be in a small vicinity, does no damage, and is easy to escape from.
other than that, good list.
dilpickle31 3 years ago
Most of the potential outcomes of Luigi's FS leave the opponent immobile or close to it. That sets up perfectly with his B Up.
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
all the way worst final smashes ever
frogfamily 3 years ago
i meant around 80 damage
chikendinner 3 years ago
Well, Kirby's has a HUGE range and it's VERY easy to get at least 2 or 1 brawlers in the pot. I even use him and he is awesome! DK's you need to go with the music. ZZS is good becayse it lets you become samus again! Meta knight's is good (unless you are a good dodger). Kibg Dedede's is hard to avoid (unless it is in a huge stage)
cinosybrick 3 years ago
hey dude, DK"S FINAL SMASH CAN GET AROUND *@ DAMAGE IF YOU KNOW HOW
chikendinner 3 years ago
I can see your point in some aspects. However, a few things I think are worth mentioning:-
1. Kirby's final smash can be devastating if done right, try flying UNDER the stage and executing it = instant kill.
2. Zero Suit's isn't great but it's more of a way to get back to being Samus than anything.
3. DK's FS is much more effective if you TIME your A presses to the beat instead of hammering it, on a medium sized stage it can be difficult to avoid.
Agree with you on Meta Knight.
Ke2 3 years ago
Also, I can see where you're coming from about Dedede, but bear in mind that it's one of those Smashes that is based on luck, i.e one turn it can be useless and the next get a couple of kills. It just depends on how it hits and where your opponent's standing, like Lucas'. Try and use it as a battering ram more than damage inducer, like Piplup, force your opponents off the edge. Oh, and with all due respect how can Peach's not be on the list? Worst...Final Smash...ever.
Ke2 3 years ago
Yeah, but with Peach's, you can hit people with it when they are over the death zone, and helplessly kill them. Problem with your Kirby theory: it is very easy to time the dodge right, then you, being Kirby, will die. ZSS is better than regular Samus.
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
I see the theory of what you're suggesting with Peach but in practice I've never actually seen it happen. A fair few recent matches with her and another come to mind, each time she hit it the other character was off the stage and it simply didn't affect them, I think you either have to be on the ground or really unlucky with the timing, it's more effective on ground. I've seen about a 90% success ration with Kirby's in general but meh. As a fighter ZSS pwns Samus but the latter's Smash is better
Ke2 3 years ago
I respectfully disagree on dk.
U didnt use dks final smash to its full potential, but it still isint very good.
kirbys, dededes, and dks are not good.
metaknight is actually pretty good cause as long as u get ur opponent to 35% they will die.
tennisfalco40 3 years ago
attackofthekirby your opinions SUCK
cept for dk your right on that one
mechwarrior42b 3 years ago
1. You think I wouldn't know how bad my MAIN's FS is?
2. ZSS = Zero Range, none at all. + you lose ZSS mode.
3. Well you agree with me here
4. Metaknight's is terrible, too little range, nowhere near enough power, low accuracy.
5. WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU KILLED SOMEONE WITH DEDEDE'S WITHOUT ASSISTANCE? (other people).
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
Did you even READ the description?
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
ive killed lots of people with DDDumbass's fs
it funny actually.
mechwarrior42b 3 years ago
Meta Knight as #2? Meta Knight's is better than ZSS's.
Also, Mr. Game and Watch NEEDS to be on this list. Lucario's isn't that great, either. Nor are Ness or Lucas's. (I just noticed, both Mother characters names' end with 's' `-`)
And some final smashes are very situational. Like DeDeDe's. His Final Smash owns in 4-player brawls.
SAX2 3 years ago
I was thinking about putting G&W on there, but when I tested it out knowing how to use it, it was really good due to the difficulty of avoiding it and its power. Ness and Lucas are all about luck. Sometimes, their FS will massacre people by comboing them, other times, it is painfully easy to dodge. Lucario has good kill power as long as they are at moderate damage and like every other one of his attacks, grows more powerful the more damage he takes.
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
If you get hit by ZSS FS, you are in for a WORLD of hurt. Also, when I faced
sonicboom457 online once, the only times he EVER hit me with his FS as Metaknight were when the cape hit me, and he specifically went after me! Seriously, just aerial dodge repeatedly and you'll be fine if the cape didn't hit you, but it hit someone else. Dedede, no. Just no. It is too fucking random, too fucking weak, and WAY too fucking gay. (see BRAWL TAUNTS)
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
Dedede's: I think of it more like, you CAN'T aim it. It is weak and random. Remember, that was a LV. 1 Cpu it failed to kill at 119%.
attackofthekirby 3 years ago
Well,I think King Dedede's is very good cause you dont need to aim or anything,just activate.and to use DK's final u need to push the A button(or watever controller your using) at the right time for HUGE shockwaves.
sonicboom457 3 years ago