We were talking about Ea right, then why the fuck did you bring Aius, Shirou, Rider and Archer then ? And if you mean the sorta royal rumble between Iskander, Diarmuid and all then yes I remember, after all I know how to read, Ea IS an anti-world NP but you'd have to be dumb to suicide yourself using it, And if Lancelot did encountered Ea he would have simply made it his own, end of the story. I'm done posting here as you can't even accept simple facts such as Nasu's words in Status menu, cya
@MsPandoR - Actually, I'm fairly sure that given Ea's status as both a divine mystery and an EX Ranked Weapon, that he would be unable to take control of with Knight of Honor, which is an A++ Ranked Skill. And Ea is very much a Anti-World weapon at full power. It reveals an absolute truth by splitting the world back into it's constituent chaos. It wouldn't destroy the actual planet, but it would 'reset' it back to when it was incapable of sustaining life.
It has absolutely nothing to do with Berserker's ability ... EX rank defines a power that can't be quantified at the same level as others, it doesn't mean it can't be stole by others. Berserker can pick up chinese chopsticks and fend off Saber with it so I'm pretty darn sure if he gets his hand on Ea he would be able to use it.
@MsPandoR lol, very true, its true Fate Zero berserker, can hold anything as his noble phantasm, if he egst his hands on Ea, who know what might happen????????????? but im not so sure, if he can use Ea with its full potential powers
Yes he can, his NP allows him to fully use everything he grabs, for exemple if he caught Gae Bolg he could have used it's special attack so he COULD use Ea if he got his hands on it. But that would probably result in destroying the planet as his only goal is to kill Saber =S I think he would go so far as that just to kill her.
And Lancelot cannot fit in Archer class no matter what he does, however he could fit Saber class quite well if Saber wasn't bound to be summoned each war
@MsPandoR archer isnt supose to be able to reproduce excalibur nor avalon. shirou proved tha dead wrong....so all logic about him not being to reproduce EA has been trown out of the window.. he just needs time..
Archer can reproduce Excalibur, he stated it himself during the UBW route of the VN, read it and Shirou managed to project Avalon because it was inside of him at that time, not because of his skill, just so you know.
And about Ea no he CAN'T, Ea was created with materials not existing on Gaia, Archer can't even read it's basic structure end of story.
The next time you want to look like your smart on the internet, bring some facts with proofs because you're completely wrong here. Have a look at Extra>Status>Saber>Noble Phantasms, the VN CLEARLY says about Excalibur "It is a weapon forged by the planet"
Nice try but you failed.
Planet = Gaia nice try but you probably haven't read it aha
So from what I gather here, you rather believe a WIKIA which can be modified by any dumbass in the world than the official VN written by Nasu himself ? That's the most retarded way to try to prove your point you could ever found dude. Also, please, don't spray bullshit on fairies because you look like you know nothing about them, spare us your ignorance. The VN clearly state you are wrong, no need to talk back, Excalibur was forged by the Planet, end of story.
As I thought you know nothing of fairires, at least have the decency to look up some infos about them before replying ...
Infos on the Type-Moon wikis are for most true because most of it comes from the "Character Material" Books which I have too BUT there are some huge bullshit there like Ea power is 4000 prana unit and Excalibur 200, ridiculous and pure invention. But whatever, if you trust wikias like it's the Absolute truth then so be it, you're beyong help.
Saber normal took direct hits and didn't die, reason is Excalibur repelled a part of the attack and Saber Alter's Excalibur>>>Saber normal's ... Rider's Noble Phantasm has an increased protection because of the blessing of the divine beast, this + Aius and it IS capable of holding back Excalibur ,and I don't think Ea could break through Rho Aius either, the curse of Lancer's Gae Bolg negated the Shield protection, it didn't break through it py pure strength alone.
@MsPandoR Oh and for the record, your wrong about something. Ea in unlimited bladeworks did easily smash through a seven layer Rio Aias.
And aren't you contriciting yourself? Remeber the Fate'/stay night route? Normal Excalibur defeated Rider's NP easily. if Saber's Alter's Excalibur is stronger than a normal Excalibur, why didn't it break through it along with an incomplete Rio Aias.
Gil's EA completely smashed a 7 layer flower while Shiro was only able to do 4.
What the fuck are you talking about, when did that happen ? The only time I remember Gil using Ea is when he was in the reality Marble and got his arm ripped of the moment he tried.
@MsPandoR Unlimited Bladeworks day 16th circuit overload part 2 and day 16 Match undecided unlimited bladeworks (part 1 of 2) It's on youtube.
It doesn't look like Shiro projected Rio Aias, but after Shiro regains consious and Gil starts thinking, he realizes that it was Rho Aias along with Shiro's own sword of seperation.
But even than a light hit from Ea was enough to smash through both weapons instantly.
AH remember it now, and no it wasn't Shirou but Archer who is acting without any of the two noticing, and you know ... Archer was like without a master for almost 2 entire days, he fought multiple times and got skewered severly so I doubt his Rho Aius was at Full power seeing as it takes 3 times as much Magical Energy to project it than a normal projection.
@MsPandoR Yeah, but Shiro's own Rho Aius is only half complete, excluding the one he uses later after that attack. The one in HF it only has four layers, so it's not much better.
And besides, even if he didn't notice the Rho Aius, he still had 6 other noble phantasms with him, and his strongest blade the sword of seperation didn't even slow it down. It had taken two complete noble phantasm to keep him alive, and even then it was only barely.
Shirou's projection isn't even the same quality as Archer's whose projections are already reduced by 1 rank in power so it doesn't really mean anything that he destroyed those 6 copies. And you know, re-reading it, I have the feeling that Rho Aius did stop entirely Ea, I see it like this, Shirou projected the sword of separation to protect himself but got overwhelmed and was starting to be tore apart and only THEN Archer used Rho Aius, protecting him from the rest of the attack
@MsPandoR No it didn't fully stop Ea, remember what Gil said afterwards. He said that he was holding back, because it would be a disgrace to kill Shirou with that sword.
He won't be able to face Saber if he did so himself.
He was holding back in general but he never said the use of Ea wasn't full power, he said he couldn't sully his weapon to use it against Saber, so I rather think he used it to end the match instantly, thus using it Max. And pls don't bring the "in F/HA it wipped a planet" bullshit, F/HA isn't canon, it's fanservice. The "swords that splits Heaven and Earth" doesn't mean it can destroy a planet, the name come from the spinning effect the weapon has when charging, no more no less.
@MsPandoR Remember the conversation afterwards? Gil didn't take the sword out to kill Shirou, he merely wanted to mock and laugh at Shiro stating that this is a sword that truly belongs to him, and that it can't be copied.
And okay how about Fate/Zero?
Remember the battle with Rider Zero? The author even went so far as to describe that it is a true anti-planetary weapon. If you use Fate/Zero's saber as a full power canon, then you have to accept this.
Anyway there is no point in debating, with "if's" there wouldn't be a stronger Servant, Caster could accumulate infinite Magical Energy then eradicate the other servants, Berserker if not to shield Iliya with his own body might have won against Gil, Lancer could just use Gae Bolg and kill everyone except Saber and Fake Assassin (Luck factor), etc that's what I like in F/SN there isn't really any stronger servant, but shit happens, and they die
The only servant we are aware of so far that IS recognized as somewhat invincible is Fate/Zero Berserker as everything he touches becomes his noble Phantasm, he even throws a fucking F-15 as a NP lol, and for one, he beat Gilgamesh fairly easily by reflecting his swords back at him with even more power, He even have better Stats than ... He only lost because his Master didn't have enough Magical Energy to maintain him and he WANTED to die to avoid killing his King, Arthuria.
@MsPandoR lol, if Lancelot was in an Archer class, he would have won the war, or else he would not go mad, and his master would have difficulty controlling him, Lancelot will defninitely be my choice to pick if i was in the holy grail war
@Stormraider821 Excalibur has the power similar to 'death eye of perception' Excalibur itself has the power to blow up the world, but it never reached it full potential to cause massive destruction due to no user of the sword able to unleash it, Arthuria herself only unleash 1/3 of it power
@Arrakhis I don't recall that Excalibur has the power o death eye of perception.
Mind telling me where u got that detail from?
Because I heard in the visual novels and from the forums and wiki that Excalibur itself only has 5% the true power of EA.
And there was proof to back it up.
Besides you said she only uses 1/3 it's power, but even if you tripled that power she normally uses, at most it can only cleave mountains, not planets.
It is not a weapon made by man, but a divine armament forged by the planet. It sits at the top of the category of holy swords. It is a Last Phantasm, the ultimate fantasy, crystallized inside the planet from the collective wishes of mankind, as the crystallization of the prayer named glory. It was under the control of the spirits of the planet.
To a third party viewer, it looks like a huge band of light, though in practice, only the tip is what can hit, and the light is a result of the "dislocation" of everything that this "ultimate killing technique" goes through. The tip of the attack also holds heat, making it a wave of light that can mow through the surface of the Earth. as for 1/3 its mntioned in Type-moon special book, i forgot what it called, pretty expensive one
@Stormraider821 1/3 is the max power that Arthuria unleashed due to her own limit, it doesnt mean she is unlimited, or unbeatable, the weapon is freaking strong, however the user is not strong enough to unleash its power
Lol'd ... hard. Fanwank at it's best. YOU should read the visual novel, go to status and read attentively it says "It has equal or superior output to Saber's Excalibur ...". No where it is stated that 5% EA >>>>Excalibur.
Stop pulling shit out of your ass. It is people like you who make Gilgamesh look bad. Yes he is powerfull, but he is not nearly as good as people make him seem to be, deal with it.
Even a dumbass can edit the wikia, it has no value dude. I only trust Nasu's words and the VN itself, and it is said that, whereas Ea is indeed superior to Excalibur, it is NOT as overpowering as fanboys/girls make it seem to be. Ea = STRx20 + sometimes MGI values, Excalibur = Magical Energy of the user directly transformed into attack power, that is why with an infinite Magical energy supply such as Saber Alter's, Excalibur>Ea
First off, Rin already mentioned that just because someone has infinite magical power and supply doesn't mean they can utilize it to the maximum. Take a look at Sakura vs Rin for example.
Sakura has infinate magical energy, but she can only use a tiny portion.
Same case here.
If Saber's Alter's Excalibur was really that strong, explain to me why a combination of Rider's noble phantasm and Rio Aias was capable of beating it.
@MsPandoR Hah you said I pull shit out of my ass, I admit I may have been wrong about the power since I got it from Wikia, but no way did I do that.
If anything, you were the one pulling shit out of your ass.
You claim to trust the VN? Well if you really knew the VN so well, then you should already knew that those two points u pointed out were moot because Rin already destroyed those two points when she was kicking Sakura's ass while explaining about power and control.
Ye but it depends on the skill of the user, Sakura who isn't even a proper magus can't use it to the fullest, but Saber whose existence alone surpass by far the capacity of an expert magus CAN, and I repeat, Excalibur transforms directly magical energy into the attack, meaning she can use it indefinitely. And Rho Aius is special, Lancer could beat it not (only) because of his powers but because of the curse bestowed upon the Lance that contradicted the protection of the shield.
Ye but it depends on the skill of the user, Sakura who isn't even a proper magus can't use it to the fullest, but Saber whose existence alone surpass by far the capacity of an expert magus CAN, and I repeat, Excalibur transforms directly magical energy into the attack, meaning she can use it indefinitely. And Rho Aius is special, Lancer could beat it not (only) because of his powers but because of the curse bestowed upon the Lance that contradicted the protection of the shield.
Ye but it depends on the skill of the user, Sakura who isn't even a proper magus can't use it to the fullest, but Saber whose existence alone surpass by far the capacity of an expert magus CAN, and I repeat, Excalibur transforms directly magical energy into the attack, meaning she can use it indefinitely. And Rho Aius is special, Lancer could beat it not (only) because of his powers but because of the curse bestowed upon the Lance that contradicted the protection of the shield.
And yes you pull shit out of your ass just fucking read the Status menus and you will CLEARLY read "In straightforward attack power, she is the strongest" Gilgamesh included, just deal with it, he is over-rated, in fact the only servant he kills in a fair match is ... well Lancer maybe but he was fighting him in a crampled place so ...
@MsPandoR I didn't pull no shit out my ass, I simply copied other's words. You were the one pulling shit out of your ass.
Have u forgotten Unlimited Bladeworks path? Even Saber admitted that in a head on fight, she doesn't stand a chance against Gilgamesh, and she Rin for Master, so her potential is fully utilize!
And even Rin agrees that Gilgamesh can only be defeated by UBW.
Oh and I got this from the VN which you so love. So what are you going to do now? Change the topic?
Change the topic ? you did it already .. We were talking about Saber Alter, not Normal Saber, lrn2read. There is huge difference between the two, heck Saber Alter could afford to take direct hits of Ea and just wait a few seconds to heal because of the infinite mana pool Sakura brings to her. Gilg fanboys are even worse than Sephiroth's ... Oh and just so you know even if Rin is an outstanding magus, she still can't allow Saber to use her full abilities, Kiritsugu could, look up
@MsPandoR Oh and for the record, I'm not a Gil fanboy, but I am a guy who knows facts when I see it.
Saber Alter Cannot take a direct hit from EA, when she was knocked down for the count, she admitted that she needed minutes to recover from Rider's NP. Which is why Shiro didn't need any special abilities and could just stab her.
Okay what's your next complaint just take out your damn complaints and issues already. If you hate Gil just say so, no need to go making things up
I'm not making things up, as opposed to you I check things even before posting them as it takes approximatively 5 seconds to launch the VN, and no I don't hate Gilgamesh he is a very interesting character personality-wise and i'm not a Saber Alter fan either, my favorite is Lancer, and the so called "facts" you see are wikia's like the Ea 5% >>> Excalibur ? then lol dude
@MsPandoR So you admit that you got many facts wrong? Like Saber Alter not being able to take a direct hit from Ea? Dark Excalibur's power isn't infinite? Saber not being able to take him head on? Oh and by the way, you made a mistake. Rin was capable of pulling Saber's full power out, Shiro stated so.
As for 5% Ea? That maybe true in a sense, I got it from a wikia, but seeing Ea's full power in hollow ataraxia, where it literally split a planet apart, I can easily bring myself to believe it
In the Heaven's Feel route in the visual novel. She is corrupted by Sakura's shadow and made her servant. She fights Rider and Shirou and is eventually killed by Shirou.
i tihnk saber alter its strong but not enough to beat shiro or saber (shiro kill her wihout use his nine blades woks, that for sure own dark saber fast)
Not to mention that Alter Saber's mana supply is infinite, meaning she can spam X5 Excali-beams infinitely (theoretically), where Saber can not.
Also, with her X3 magic level increase she`s plenty times stronger due to the fact that Saber`s strength comes from her skill Prana Burst, which increases her speed, defense and attack.
However, Saber can potentially use Avalon, which is pure hax, capable of nullifying EX noble phantasms, which are off the charts.
In a saber vs saber battle, saber would win. Disregarding the unlimited prana backup from Sakura(which is overpowered), I believe that Saber-Alter is not an ideal servant, why? The Saber class was made to be balanced in every stat, not excelling, but doing pretty damn good in every feat, she may have A STR, but Berserker has higher STR, she loses AGI, Luck is debatable, and her noble phantasm shouldn't have increased in power, it just became unlimited. I think?
Saber Alter loses AGI ranks when partnered up with Sakura, and loses her ability to mount most things(which I'm sure played a very important role in fate/zero, though it barely mattered in F/SN). That's why she couldn't even really do anything to Rider when Rider got serious, is extra strength really worth it when you're a saber? I think not. Sakura was a terrible m aster, only her mana pool made her better.Rin on the other hand, was a worthy master of Saber. But she's effing Rin so...
Saber Alter has a crazy amount of magical energy. The difference between Gilgamesh and Saber was mainly the magic supply. Gilgamesh has enough while Saber barely. So if we connect Saber to the almost unlimited supply of the Grail I think Gilgamesh's Ea no mach for hers. The only thing he can do to prevent her using it with keeping the distance and cornering her constantly with his Gate of Babylon. If he manages to weaken Saber's concentration then maybe he have a chance. my vote on dark saber.
Sorry but you need to get your facts checked. While it's true that Saber wasn't at her 100% with Shirou as her master, the unlimited prana backup from Dark Sakura won't make her Exca anywhere NEAR Ea level. Excalibur has a max cap in damage that is several tens of times lower then EA's. When EA is charged enough it can rip apart reality and potentially destroy the world (As seen in F/HA). Excailbur = Blow up the city. Also EA takes no mana to use, and Saber loses agi ranks. Thus Gil>Saber Alter.
Actually that's pretty accurate. Archer Arm Shirou in the HF route is a match for Saber Alter. In fact if it weren't for some circumstances he'd have scored a total victory.
Yes Gil is by far the strongest servant there is if he uses Ea to its full potential. Unluckily he is too proud to use it on any1 except saber or some1 else he admires.
Does that mean Gilgamesh is capable of doing the second true magic? (cutting through dimensions and space). I'm pretty sure cutting apart reality is different than that, but it still sounds like the second magic.
No, it's just the side effect of the amount of power he's drawing. Kaleidoscope is based on operation of parallel universes, not just damaging the reality of one universe (much like what happens throughout Umineko and Higurashi where we're shown alternate scenarios).
My question wasn't answered. And isn't a Magus just a club of Magi that dedicate their life to studying magecraft? I don't think being a magus has much to do with magecraft, rather than how much you study it.
No, that would be a Magi. A magi is someone capable of magecraft, actually let me check to see if I'm right...
A magus is a magi that studies and pactices magecraft in order to perfect it. There doesn't seem to be a difference between magi and magus's besides the fact that a magus has a respective title towards their name (aka anyone using gradation air, projection, has the title of faker, Emiya also has the title of spellcaster.) But you could be right.
"Faker" isn't a title. It's just what Gilgamesh called Archer and Shirou since he viewed their Projection as merely copying his treasury. Which it technically was. And even you do consider it a title for that projection, only Shirou/Archer could ever have it, since their projection is unique.
@MUGENanaya I'm pretty certain that's the japanese name, not the english. Plus it's Saber Alter, not Alter Saber. The English name is simply Dark Saber.
The Second Magic is 'Operation of Parallel Worlds', meaning that a Second Magic User can do more than one thing with alternate realities. The Jewelled Sword is just one single aspect of Second Magic after all, so its obvious Zeltrech can do more than just open portals. Ea's Space/Time ripping is quickly repaired/corrected as evidenced by the lack of a gigantic hole in reality for every time he uses it. So its closer to a Reality Marble.
DArk Saber...she not only has more skill but got a BITCH of a power up...and well I don't doubt that there is Dark Sakurax Alter Saber fanart outhere anyway....DARK CALIBUR! I want to see a Dark Saber vs Saber Lily fight!
I have the visual novel too. And I also checked right after I posted that so I apologize lately for not returning here and saying my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out though.
Let's not forget now that Sabers stats increase a fair bit with all other masters, when Rin in turn becomes the partner of Saber her stats rose a fair deal, same goes for Sakura , that may be the reason Saber alter was able to deal with Berserker.
...........you obviously don't know what a spoiler is do you? I didn't say it FOR A REASON. I mean seriously, What the fuck? What do you mean, "Lol play the game is it that hard?"? Isn't it dead obvious I ALREADY HAVE? I mean for crying out loud look at my profile! Please delete your comment, as you are spoiling it for people who have not played F/SN yet.
@LordBazaar There are 4 acts in the game as you already know. Each act usually starts after somesort of final Boss. Like Act 1's last boss is Choas. Most of the time it is pretty easy to tell the last boss of an act by the BGM. I can give you a list of the last bosses for every act if you want. Act 4 has many bosses though so it's hard to tell their. Hope this helped.
I don't know why but I think her angry face is hot.
OathkeeperXIII 2 months ago
you know what I always thought was funny was how little an impact Alter had on the game, Saber didn't take notice of her.
colonel24567 2 months ago
For the Longest Time...
I thought Dark Saber was Morrigan La Fay...I think thats makes more sense in a way ^.^;
lionheart1013 4 months ago
Dark Saber is so popular
Cornholio8787 4 months ago
We were talking about Ea right, then why the fuck did you bring Aius, Shirou, Rider and Archer then ? And if you mean the sorta royal rumble between Iskander, Diarmuid and all then yes I remember, after all I know how to read, Ea IS an anti-world NP but you'd have to be dumb to suicide yourself using it, And if Lancelot did encountered Ea he would have simply made it his own, end of the story. I'm done posting here as you can't even accept simple facts such as Nasu's words in Status menu, cya
MsPandoR 5 months ago
@MsPandoR - Actually, I'm fairly sure that given Ea's status as both a divine mystery and an EX Ranked Weapon, that he would be unable to take control of with Knight of Honor, which is an A++ Ranked Skill. And Ea is very much a Anti-World weapon at full power. It reveals an absolute truth by splitting the world back into it's constituent chaos. It wouldn't destroy the actual planet, but it would 'reset' it back to when it was incapable of sustaining life.
IchimonjiGiri 3 months ago
@IchimonjiGiri
It has absolutely nothing to do with Berserker's ability ... EX rank defines a power that can't be quantified at the same level as others, it doesn't mean it can't be stole by others. Berserker can pick up chinese chopsticks and fend off Saber with it so I'm pretty darn sure if he gets his hand on Ea he would be able to use it.
MsPandoR 3 months ago
@MsPandoR lol, very true, its true Fate Zero berserker, can hold anything as his noble phantasm, if he egst his hands on Ea, who know what might happen????????????? but im not so sure, if he can use Ea with its full potential powers
vergilheartnet 3 months ago
@vergilheartnet
Yes he can, his NP allows him to fully use everything he grabs, for exemple if he caught Gae Bolg he could have used it's special attack so he COULD use Ea if he got his hands on it. But that would probably result in destroying the planet as his only goal is to kill Saber =S I think he would go so far as that just to kill her.
And Lancelot cannot fit in Archer class no matter what he does, however he could fit Saber class quite well if Saber wasn't bound to be summoned each war
MsPandoR 3 months ago
@MsPandoR Uh... if you're talking about Shirou tracing stuff, he specifically says that he can't trace Ea.
Admittedly, that was in UBW.
RavensNestStudios 3 months ago
@RavensNestStudios
Where did I say that ? I know that neither him nor Archer can reproduce Ea because the materials that were used to make it don't exist on Gaia.
MsPandoR 3 months ago
@MsPandoR OH you're talking about Lancelot, shit. My bad.
RavensNestStudios 2 months ago
@RavensNestStudios
No problem it happens to all of us at leats once =)
MsPandoR 2 months ago
@MsPandoR archer isnt supose to be able to reproduce excalibur nor avalon. shirou proved tha dead wrong....so all logic about him not being to reproduce EA has been trown out of the window.. he just needs time..
henryhenriquez 2 months ago
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@henryhenriquez
Archer can reproduce Excalibur, he stated it himself during the UBW route of the VN, read it and Shirou managed to project Avalon because it was inside of him at that time, not because of his skill, just so you know.
And about Ea no he CAN'T, Ea was created with materials not existing on Gaia, Archer can't even read it's basic structure end of story.
MsPandoR 2 months ago
@MsPandoR and contradictions...
excalibur also was made with materials not present in gaia... so CONTRADICTION.
ive read it, far more then you.. and i have found allot of contradictions.
henryhenriquez 2 months ago
@henryhenriquez
The next time you want to look like your smart on the internet, bring some facts with proofs because you're completely wrong here. Have a look at Extra>Status>Saber>Noble Phantasms, the VN CLEARLY says about Excalibur "It is a weapon forged by the planet"
Nice try but you failed.
Planet = Gaia nice try but you probably haven't read it aha
MsPandoR 2 months ago
@MsPandoR have a look at nasu interview.
it was forge by FAIRY.not from this world.. so you fail.
go read the wiki of type moon please
henryhenriquez 2 months ago
@henryhenriquez
So from what I gather here, you rather believe a WIKIA which can be modified by any dumbass in the world than the official VN written by Nasu himself ? That's the most retarded way to try to prove your point you could ever found dude. Also, please, don't spray bullshit on fairies because you look like you know nothing about them, spare us your ignorance. The VN clearly state you are wrong, no need to talk back, Excalibur was forged by the Planet, end of story.
MsPandoR 2 months ago
@MsPandoR fairies are elementals... so meh.. and all info on wiki has its source cited.. so please herp derp/...
henryhenriquez 2 months ago
@henryhenriquez
As I thought you know nothing of fairires, at least have the decency to look up some infos about them before replying ...
Infos on the Type-Moon wikis are for most true because most of it comes from the "Character Material" Books which I have too BUT there are some huge bullshit there like Ea power is 4000 prana unit and Excalibur 200, ridiculous and pure invention. But whatever, if you trust wikias like it's the Absolute truth then so be it, you're beyong help.
MsPandoR 2 months ago
@Stormraider821
Saber normal took direct hits and didn't die, reason is Excalibur repelled a part of the attack and Saber Alter's Excalibur>>>Saber normal's ... Rider's Noble Phantasm has an increased protection because of the blessing of the divine beast, this + Aius and it IS capable of holding back Excalibur ,and I don't think Ea could break through Rho Aius either, the curse of Lancer's Gae Bolg negated the Shield protection, it didn't break through it py pure strength alone.
MsPandoR 5 months ago
@MsPandoR Oh and for the record, your wrong about something. Ea in unlimited bladeworks did easily smash through a seven layer Rio Aias.
And aren't you contriciting yourself? Remeber the Fate'/stay night route? Normal Excalibur defeated Rider's NP easily. if Saber's Alter's Excalibur is stronger than a normal Excalibur, why didn't it break through it along with an incomplete Rio Aias.
Gil's EA completely smashed a 7 layer flower while Shiro was only able to do 4.
Stormraider821 5 months ago
@Stormraider821
What the fuck are you talking about, when did that happen ? The only time I remember Gil using Ea is when he was in the reality Marble and got his arm ripped of the moment he tried.
MsPandoR 5 months ago
@MsPandoR Unlimited Bladeworks day 16th circuit overload part 2 and day 16 Match undecided unlimited bladeworks (part 1 of 2) It's on youtube.
It doesn't look like Shiro projected Rio Aias, but after Shiro regains consious and Gil starts thinking, he realizes that it was Rho Aias along with Shiro's own sword of seperation.
But even than a light hit from Ea was enough to smash through both weapons instantly.
Stormraider821 5 months ago
@Stormraider821
AH remember it now, and no it wasn't Shirou but Archer who is acting without any of the two noticing, and you know ... Archer was like without a master for almost 2 entire days, he fought multiple times and got skewered severly so I doubt his Rho Aius was at Full power seeing as it takes 3 times as much Magical Energy to project it than a normal projection.
MsPandoR 5 months ago
@MsPandoR Yeah, but Shiro's own Rho Aius is only half complete, excluding the one he uses later after that attack. The one in HF it only has four layers, so it's not much better.
And besides, even if he didn't notice the Rho Aius, he still had 6 other noble phantasms with him, and his strongest blade the sword of seperation didn't even slow it down. It had taken two complete noble phantasm to keep him alive, and even then it was only barely.
Stormraider821 5 months ago
@Stormraider821
Shirou's projection isn't even the same quality as Archer's whose projections are already reduced by 1 rank in power so it doesn't really mean anything that he destroyed those 6 copies. And you know, re-reading it, I have the feeling that Rho Aius did stop entirely Ea, I see it like this, Shirou projected the sword of separation to protect himself but got overwhelmed and was starting to be tore apart and only THEN Archer used Rho Aius, protecting him from the rest of the attack
MsPandoR 5 months ago
@MsPandoR No it didn't fully stop Ea, remember what Gil said afterwards. He said that he was holding back, because it would be a disgrace to kill Shirou with that sword.
He won't be able to face Saber if he did so himself.
Stormraider821 5 months ago
@Stormraider821
He was holding back in general but he never said the use of Ea wasn't full power, he said he couldn't sully his weapon to use it against Saber, so I rather think he used it to end the match instantly, thus using it Max. And pls don't bring the "in F/HA it wipped a planet" bullshit, F/HA isn't canon, it's fanservice. The "swords that splits Heaven and Earth" doesn't mean it can destroy a planet, the name come from the spinning effect the weapon has when charging, no more no less.
MsPandoR 5 months ago
@MsPandoR Remember the conversation afterwards? Gil didn't take the sword out to kill Shirou, he merely wanted to mock and laugh at Shiro stating that this is a sword that truly belongs to him, and that it can't be copied.
And okay how about Fate/Zero?
Remember the battle with Rider Zero? The author even went so far as to describe that it is a true anti-planetary weapon. If you use Fate/Zero's saber as a full power canon, then you have to accept this.
Otherwise your a hypocrite.
Stormraider821 5 months ago
@Stormraider821
Anyway there is no point in debating, with "if's" there wouldn't be a stronger Servant, Caster could accumulate infinite Magical Energy then eradicate the other servants, Berserker if not to shield Iliya with his own body might have won against Gil, Lancer could just use Gae Bolg and kill everyone except Saber and Fake Assassin (Luck factor), etc that's what I like in F/SN there isn't really any stronger servant, but shit happens, and they die
MsPandoR 5 months ago
@Stormraider821
The only servant we are aware of so far that IS recognized as somewhat invincible is Fate/Zero Berserker as everything he touches becomes his noble Phantasm, he even throws a fucking F-15 as a NP lol, and for one, he beat Gilgamesh fairly easily by reflecting his swords back at him with even more power, He even have better Stats than ... He only lost because his Master didn't have enough Magical Energy to maintain him and he WANTED to die to avoid killing his King, Arthuria.
MsPandoR 5 months ago
@MsPandoR Fate/Zero's berserker never encountered Ea in the first place.
This tpoic was about Ea's power in the first place, don't change the subject to another character.
Stormraider821 5 months ago
@MsPandoR lol, if Lancelot was in an Archer class, he would have won the war, or else he would not go mad, and his master would have difficulty controlling him, Lancelot will defninitely be my choice to pick if i was in the holy grail war
vergilheartnet 3 months ago
The Techno version is SO epic ;p
Elzebub666 8 months ago
Ea is overpowered. Case closed, brohams.
Minumer 9 months ago
Or Saber Alter can just Spam Excalibur like there is no tomorrow remember
Infinite Mana lol
OmegaChosen0 10 months ago
@OmegaChosen0 Spamming excalibur is useless against an attack that blow up the world.
Stormraider821 9 months ago
@Stormraider821 Excalibur has the power similar to 'death eye of perception' Excalibur itself has the power to blow up the world, but it never reached it full potential to cause massive destruction due to no user of the sword able to unleash it, Arthuria herself only unleash 1/3 of it power
Arrakhis 9 months ago
@Arrakhis I don't recall that Excalibur has the power o death eye of perception.
Mind telling me where u got that detail from?
Because I heard in the visual novels and from the forums and wiki that Excalibur itself only has 5% the true power of EA.
And there was proof to back it up.
Besides you said she only uses 1/3 it's power, but even if you tripled that power she normally uses, at most it can only cleave mountains, not planets.
Stormraider821 9 months ago
@Stormraider821 It is and
It is not a weapon made by man, but a divine armament forged by the planet. It sits at the top of the category of holy swords. It is a Last Phantasm, the ultimate fantasy, crystallized inside the planet from the collective wishes of mankind, as the crystallization of the prayer named glory. It was under the control of the spirits of the planet.
Arrakhis 9 months ago
@Stormraider821
To a third party viewer, it looks like a huge band of light, though in practice, only the tip is what can hit, and the light is a result of the "dislocation" of everything that this "ultimate killing technique" goes through. The tip of the attack also holds heat, making it a wave of light that can mow through the surface of the Earth. as for 1/3 its mntioned in Type-moon special book, i forgot what it called, pretty expensive one
Arrakhis 9 months ago
@Stormraider821 1/3 is the max power that Arthuria unleashed due to her own limit, it doesnt mean she is unlimited, or unbeatable, the weapon is freaking strong, however the user is not strong enough to unleash its power
Arrakhis 9 months ago
@Stormraider821 Excalibur Build Up is faster than Ea's if it is.....
OmegaChosen0 9 months ago
@OmegaChosen0 An in complete EA at only 5% it's true power is already enough to overpower Excalbur.
Have u forgotten the anime and visual novels? Even if it's incomplete it can still easily overpower it,
Stormraider821 9 months ago
@Stormraider821
Lol'd ... hard. Fanwank at it's best. YOU should read the visual novel, go to status and read attentively it says "It has equal or superior output to Saber's Excalibur ...". No where it is stated that 5% EA >>>>Excalibur.
Stop pulling shit out of your ass. It is people like you who make Gilgamesh look bad. Yes he is powerfull, but he is not nearly as good as people make him seem to be, deal with it.
MsPandoR 6 months ago
@MsPandoR I got the info from the wikia.
It says an AA+ rank Noble phantasm has an output of 200 units of mana.
And then it says that EA itself has 4000 units of mana.
If u were to look at it statisically, than it would appear that way.
Stormraider821 6 months ago
@Stormraider821
Even a dumbass can edit the wikia, it has no value dude. I only trust Nasu's words and the VN itself, and it is said that, whereas Ea is indeed superior to Excalibur, it is NOT as overpowering as fanboys/girls make it seem to be. Ea = STRx20 + sometimes MGI values, Excalibur = Magical Energy of the user directly transformed into attack power, that is why with an infinite Magical energy supply such as Saber Alter's, Excalibur>Ea
MsPandoR 6 months ago
@MsPandoR And aren't u forgetting something?
First off, Rin already mentioned that just because someone has infinite magical power and supply doesn't mean they can utilize it to the maximum. Take a look at Sakura vs Rin for example.
Sakura has infinate magical energy, but she can only use a tiny portion.
Same case here.
If Saber's Alter's Excalibur was really that strong, explain to me why a combination of Rider's noble phantasm and Rio Aias was capable of beating it.
Stormraider821 6 months ago
@MsPandoR Hah you said I pull shit out of my ass, I admit I may have been wrong about the power since I got it from Wikia, but no way did I do that.
If anything, you were the one pulling shit out of your ass.
You claim to trust the VN? Well if you really knew the VN so well, then you should already knew that those two points u pointed out were moot because Rin already destroyed those two points when she was kicking Sakura's ass while explaining about power and control.
Stormraider821 6 months ago
@Stormraider821
Ye but it depends on the skill of the user, Sakura who isn't even a proper magus can't use it to the fullest, but Saber whose existence alone surpass by far the capacity of an expert magus CAN, and I repeat, Excalibur transforms directly magical energy into the attack, meaning she can use it indefinitely. And Rho Aius is special, Lancer could beat it not (only) because of his powers but because of the curse bestowed upon the Lance that contradicted the protection of the shield.
MsPandoR 6 months ago
@Stormraider821
Ye but it depends on the skill of the user, Sakura who isn't even a proper magus can't use it to the fullest, but Saber whose existence alone surpass by far the capacity of an expert magus CAN, and I repeat, Excalibur transforms directly magical energy into the attack, meaning she can use it indefinitely. And Rho Aius is special, Lancer could beat it not (only) because of his powers but because of the curse bestowed upon the Lance that contradicted the protection of the shield.
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@Stormraider821
Ye but it depends on the skill of the user, Sakura who isn't even a proper magus can't use it to the fullest, but Saber whose existence alone surpass by far the capacity of an expert magus CAN, and I repeat, Excalibur transforms directly magical energy into the attack, meaning she can use it indefinitely. And Rho Aius is special, Lancer could beat it not (only) because of his powers but because of the curse bestowed upon the Lance that contradicted the protection of the shield.
MsPandoR 6 months ago
@Stormraider821
And yes you pull shit out of your ass just fucking read the Status menus and you will CLEARLY read "In straightforward attack power, she is the strongest" Gilgamesh included, just deal with it, he is over-rated, in fact the only servant he kills in a fair match is ... well Lancer maybe but he was fighting him in a crampled place so ...
MsPandoR 6 months ago
@MsPandoR I didn't pull no shit out my ass, I simply copied other's words. You were the one pulling shit out of your ass.
Have u forgotten Unlimited Bladeworks path? Even Saber admitted that in a head on fight, she doesn't stand a chance against Gilgamesh, and she Rin for Master, so her potential is fully utilize!
And even Rin agrees that Gilgamesh can only be defeated by UBW.
Oh and I got this from the VN which you so love. So what are you going to do now? Change the topic?
Stormraider821 5 months ago
@Stormraider821
Change the topic ? you did it already .. We were talking about Saber Alter, not Normal Saber, lrn2read. There is huge difference between the two, heck Saber Alter could afford to take direct hits of Ea and just wait a few seconds to heal because of the infinite mana pool Sakura brings to her. Gilg fanboys are even worse than Sephiroth's ... Oh and just so you know even if Rin is an outstanding magus, she still can't allow Saber to use her full abilities, Kiritsugu could, look up
MsPandoR 5 months ago
@MsPandoR Hello...Saber alter could take a direct hit of Ea? Again your making things up.
Have you forgotten Rider's Noble phantasm? Just one hit from that was enough to put her down for the count.
And that was SABER ALTER THE ONE WITH THE SO CALLED INFINITE MANA POOL FROM SAKURA!!
And for the record, I'm starting to wonder if you actually read the VN.
If you did, explain to me how Saber's Alter Excalibur can beat EA when it can't even beat Rider's Noble phantasm along with Rho Aias.
Stormraider821 5 months ago
@MsPandoR Oh and for the record, I'm not a Gil fanboy, but I am a guy who knows facts when I see it.
Saber Alter Cannot take a direct hit from EA, when she was knocked down for the count, she admitted that she needed minutes to recover from Rider's NP. Which is why Shiro didn't need any special abilities and could just stab her.
Okay what's your next complaint just take out your damn complaints and issues already. If you hate Gil just say so, no need to go making things up
Stormraider821 5 months ago
@Stormraider821
I'm not making things up, as opposed to you I check things even before posting them as it takes approximatively 5 seconds to launch the VN, and no I don't hate Gilgamesh he is a very interesting character personality-wise and i'm not a Saber Alter fan either, my favorite is Lancer, and the so called "facts" you see are wikia's like the Ea 5% >>> Excalibur ? then lol dude
MsPandoR 5 months ago
@MsPandoR So you admit that you got many facts wrong? Like Saber Alter not being able to take a direct hit from Ea? Dark Excalibur's power isn't infinite? Saber not being able to take him head on? Oh and by the way, you made a mistake. Rin was capable of pulling Saber's full power out, Shiro stated so.
As for 5% Ea? That maybe true in a sense, I got it from a wikia, but seeing Ea's full power in hollow ataraxia, where it literally split a planet apart, I can easily bring myself to believe it
Stormraider821 5 months ago
@Stormraider821
And no, Rin couldn't have full-potential Saber as she didn't have Avalon, Kiritsugu gave it to her in the Fourth, so THERE she was at full power.
MsPandoR 5 months ago
@MsPandoR Sorry I mean an A++ Or was AA+ I forgot the ranking.
But still that's what the wikia told me when I went looking up research, Excalibur an AA+ Noble phantasm has an output of 200 units of mana
While EA has 4000.
Stormraider821 6 months ago
"Start Battle" should've said "Commence the ass-kicking of a lifetime"
AriesByTheStars 1 year ago
what path did saber turn into this in
smashlover9 1 year ago
@smashlover9
In the Heaven's Feel route in the visual novel. She is corrupted by Sakura's shadow and made her servant. She fights Rider and Shirou and is eventually killed by Shirou.
solopy567 1 year ago
Saber looks like she's badshit crazy.
BluePlue 1 year ago
Rin Sabre = Strongest Sabre. She'd smash Alter.
AnimeNikkaJamal 1 year ago
@AnimeNikkaJamal Actually, I'll ret-con my last statement.
Kiritsugu Sabre was faster and had better stamina/riding skill than Rin Sabre but not much luck.
Rin Sabre was physically stronger and had good luck.
Kiritsugu's Sabre was probably superior in all situations except against Gae Bolg, which requires luck to avoid.
They'd both smash Sabre Alter.
AnimeNikkaJamal 1 year ago
Hey look it's a black Getsuga Tensho!
vegeta353658 2 years ago
@vegeta353658
Son, I am disappoint.
lordlee2 1 year ago 17
@lordlee2 EPIC WIN
lolrar 1 year ago
i tihnk saber alter its strong but not enough to beat shiro or saber (shiro kill her wihout use his nine blades woks, that for sure own dark saber fast)
Contreras1991 2 years ago
I disagree. Alter Saber is not weaker than Saber.
Her stats from Shiro to Sakura are the following:
Strength: B->A (40->50)
Endurance: C->A (30->50)
Mana: B->A++ (40->150)
Agility:C->D (30->20)
Luck: B->C (40->30)
Noble Phantasm: C->A++ (30->150)
However Alter Saber can not ride things, and suffers a decrease in Instinct and Magic Resistance (Both A->B)
Cont...
DestAeval 2 years ago
Not to mention that Alter Saber's mana supply is infinite, meaning she can spam X5 Excali-beams infinitely (theoretically), where Saber can not.
Also, with her X3 magic level increase she`s plenty times stronger due to the fact that Saber`s strength comes from her skill Prana Burst, which increases her speed, defense and attack.
However, Saber can potentially use Avalon, which is pure hax, capable of nullifying EX noble phantasms, which are off the charts.
Cont...
DestAeval 2 years ago 6
Shirou managed to kill Alter Saber with a unique/surprise attack, but does not mean Shirou is stronger.
Ex: Shirou defeats Gilgamesh at the end of UBW, but he's not stronger than Gilgamesh.
DestAeval 2 years ago
In a saber vs saber battle, saber would win. Disregarding the unlimited prana backup from Sakura(which is overpowered), I believe that Saber-Alter is not an ideal servant, why? The Saber class was made to be balanced in every stat, not excelling, but doing pretty damn good in every feat, she may have A STR, but Berserker has higher STR, she loses AGI, Luck is debatable, and her noble phantasm shouldn't have increased in power, it just became unlimited. I think?
cronnoponno 2 years ago
I mean saber alter would win, against the real saber(god they need an edit button, I just wasted comment space) :l
cronnoponno 2 years ago
@cronnoponno
An ideal servant depends on what your plans/situation is.
For example, the Saber class would not be ideal if you wanted to use your servant for espionage or information gathering.
But w/o a doubt, the standard Saber is ideal in many cases.
I just looked it up in the game, and both Noble Phantasms appear to be of equal strength.
I guess the Noble Phantasm rank indicates the overall usage of the Noble Phantasms(s).
DestAeval 2 years ago
@DestAeval
As I recall, her stats with Rin are better than either one.
lordlee2 1 year ago
Nine Strikes at Godspeed
Yeah like any haxxor could evade an attack like that
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago 2
Agreed.
lolrar 1 year ago
Saber Alter loses AGI ranks when partnered up with Sakura, and loses her ability to mount most things(which I'm sure played a very important role in fate/zero, though it barely mattered in F/SN). That's why she couldn't even really do anything to Rider when Rider got serious, is extra strength really worth it when you're a saber? I think not. Sakura was a terrible m aster, only her mana pool made her better.Rin on the other hand, was a worthy master of Saber. But she's effing Rin so...
cronnoponno 2 years ago
DARK Sakura was a horrible master, Saber is a hero who can only be matched with divinity and the sword, so she obviously gets nerfed.
DoodDX 2 years ago
Alter Saber by herself is stronger by magic pool
But she had DARK Sakura as master that sure made her gain a heavy status boost!
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arigalia201 2 years ago
"Saber is the strongest Servant...no, there must be someone stronger, but that person is not in this Holy Grail War. Thus, Saber is the strongest."
So Shirou comments on Dark Saber. Perhaps the author's way of putting to mind on Gilgamesh getting owned before he got to do anything lol
NewtypeChild6 2 years ago
Servants consumed by
Dark Sakura not only are converted to mere shadows of their former selves but receive a BITCHING power up as well
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
Saber Alter has a crazy amount of magical energy. The difference between Gilgamesh and Saber was mainly the magic supply. Gilgamesh has enough while Saber barely. So if we connect Saber to the almost unlimited supply of the Grail I think Gilgamesh's Ea no mach for hers. The only thing he can do to prevent her using it with keeping the distance and cornering her constantly with his Gate of Babylon. If he manages to weaken Saber's concentration then maybe he have a chance. my vote on dark saber.
willyvereb 2 years ago
Sorry but you need to get your facts checked. While it's true that Saber wasn't at her 100% with Shirou as her master, the unlimited prana backup from Dark Sakura won't make her Exca anywhere NEAR Ea level. Excalibur has a max cap in damage that is several tens of times lower then EA's. When EA is charged enough it can rip apart reality and potentially destroy the world (As seen in F/HA). Excailbur = Blow up the city. Also EA takes no mana to use, and Saber loses agi ranks. Thus Gil>Saber Alter.
FlameDNA 2 years ago 13
this is true people hes EA own basicly anything
henryhenriquez 2 years ago
hmmmm....
Shiro>Gilgamesh>Dark Saber>Saber....
Shiro>Saber!?!?!?!?!
shoutenry 2 years ago 6
Actually that's pretty accurate. Archer Arm Shirou in the HF route is a match for Saber Alter. In fact if it weren't for some circumstances he'd have scored a total victory.
FlameDNA 2 years ago
That still doesn't make Gilgamesh any less of a flamboyant homo.
Kite197 2 years ago
Yes Gil is by far the strongest servant there is if he uses Ea to its full potential. Unluckily he is too proud to use it on any1 except saber or some1 else he admires.
Shinekage 2 years ago
Does that mean Gilgamesh is capable of doing the second true magic? (cutting through dimensions and space). I'm pretty sure cutting apart reality is different than that, but it still sounds like the second magic.
cronnoponno 2 years ago
No, it's just the side effect of the amount of power he's drawing. Kaleidoscope is based on operation of parallel universes, not just damaging the reality of one universe (much like what happens throughout Umineko and Higurashi where we're shown alternate scenarios).
SoshiUso 2 years ago 3
Gilgamesh isn't a magus, and what he's doing is closer to a Reality Marble than the Second Magic. So probably not, no.
poggg 2 years ago
@poggg
My question wasn't answered. And isn't a Magus just a club of Magi that dedicate their life to studying magecraft? I don't think being a magus has much to do with magecraft, rather than how much you study it.
cronnoponno 2 years ago
I think a magus is, by definition, someone capable of utilizing magecraft, not just studying it. Not completely sure, though.
poggg 2 years ago
@poggg
No, that would be a Magi. A magi is someone capable of magecraft, actually let me check to see if I'm right...
A magus is a magi that studies and pactices magecraft in order to perfect it. There doesn't seem to be a difference between magi and magus's besides the fact that a magus has a respective title towards their name (aka anyone using gradation air, projection, has the title of faker, Emiya also has the title of spellcaster.) But you could be right.
cronnoponno 2 years ago
"Faker" isn't a title. It's just what Gilgamesh called Archer and Shirou since he viewed their Projection as merely copying his treasury. Which it technically was. And even you do consider it a title for that projection, only Shirou/Archer could ever have it, since their projection is unique.
poggg 2 years ago
@cronnoponno I'm pretty certain Magus is a generic term for anyone who studies magic. Magi is simply the plural version of it.
BoneBeastKimimaro 1 year ago
American name is Alter Saber. Anyways this is F-ing badass. Shows the transformation from a herioic knight to somethign mroe devious.
MUGENanaya 1 year ago
@MUGENanaya I'm pretty certain that's the japanese name, not the english. Plus it's Saber Alter, not Alter Saber. The English name is simply Dark Saber.
BoneBeastKimimaro 1 year ago
The Second Magic is 'Operation of Parallel Worlds', meaning that a Second Magic User can do more than one thing with alternate realities. The Jewelled Sword is just one single aspect of Second Magic after all, so its obvious Zeltrech can do more than just open portals. Ea's Space/Time ripping is quickly repaired/corrected as evidenced by the lack of a gigantic hole in reality for every time he uses it. So its closer to a Reality Marble.
IchimonjiGiri 2 years ago
@cronnoponno
Gilgamesh is only capable of cutting through heterosexuality. Spreading the dreaded homo as he does so.
Kite197 2 years ago
@FlameDNA Yea Ea Blows darkcalibu out of the water lol
IRONiHonakoo 1 year ago
DArk Saber...she not only has more skill but got a BITCH of a power up...and well I don't doubt that there is Dark Sakurax Alter Saber fanart outhere anyway....DARK CALIBUR! I want to see a Dark Saber vs Saber Lily fight!
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
I wonder, i'd vote for Saber Alter.
PhantomEvaXIII 2 years ago
wonder who would win, Gilgamesh or Dark Saber....
Flaketeer 2 years ago
Saber Alter isn't any stronger or weaker than Saber from what I remember. The only thing Saber Alter doesn't have is her riding skills.
BradleyMcCloud 2 years ago 4
No.
Alter is several times stronger than normal Saber, beating Berserker Alter in raw power.
I have the visual novel by my side, I checked.
LordRaikon 2 years ago
I have the visual novel too. And I also checked right after I posted that so I apologize lately for not returning here and saying my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out though.
BradleyMcCloud 2 years ago
Let's not forget now that Sabers stats increase a fair bit with all other masters, when Rin in turn becomes the partner of Saber her stats rose a fair deal, same goes for Sakura , that may be the reason Saber alter was able to deal with Berserker.
Arthion 2 years ago
I checked on Fate/unlimited codes. Dark Saber won, of course (I was playing as her on Arcade difficulty).
DarkAdonisVyers 2 years ago
It looks like Getsuga Tenshou ^.^
Todesbengel 2 years ago
If it was only longer..T_T
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
Who is she again?
A corrupetd Saber infected by the grail..can´t really remember
OmegaChosen0 2 years ago
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Dark Saber, who was absorbed by the Dark shadow used by _______(spoiler, if you wanna know what the filled in name is PM me)
BoneBeastKimimaro 2 years ago
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sakura used that lol play the game is it that hard ?:D
AlllphaAramiss 2 years ago
...........you obviously don't know what a spoiler is do you? I didn't say it FOR A REASON. I mean seriously, What the fuck? What do you mean, "Lol play the game is it that hard?"? Isn't it dead obvious I ALREADY HAVE? I mean for crying out loud look at my profile! Please delete your comment, as you are spoiling it for people who have not played F/SN yet.
BoneBeastKimimaro 2 years ago
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yey yey =)))=)) :)) dude they must know not every1 played the game i will not delete the comment but i will not reveal anymore spoilers :)
AlllphaAramiss 2 years ago
Some warped remix of "The Sword of Promised Victory"
BoneBeastKimimaro 3 years ago 4
Awesome, it sounds so sick... and twisted
KakashiMr 2 years ago 4
o.0 i dont remember darkcalibur being a multi hit move. whered u get that pic for the 1st 30 seconds also how did u get the bgm from the game?
darkzero16 3 years ago
- In act 4 she has a dark calibur map attack, she doesn't have it the first time you fight, but the second time she does.
- The pic is when she is using her map attack.
- I ripped them from the game using Yanepack.
Soulgaine 3 years ago
guess i got lucky cause she didnt use it on me (ive fought her twice)
darkzero16 3 years ago
i only met her ince in real roue and i havent finished super yet but i met her once early
henryhenriquez 3 years ago
@Soulgaine can you please explain to me about the four acts? its getting me confused.
LordBazaar 1 year ago
@LordBazaar There are 4 acts in the game as you already know. Each act usually starts after somesort of final Boss. Like Act 1's last boss is Choas. Most of the time it is pretty easy to tell the last boss of an act by the BGM. I can give you a list of the last bosses for every act if you want. Act 4 has many bosses though so it's hard to tell their. Hope this helped.
DjangoEX 1 year ago
@DjangoEX thanks
LordBazaar 1 year ago