Thank you for this video! I have been questioning about tithing for sometime now. I don't have a job so I don't make any money but I see giving my time and heart to the Lord is what he wants from me and to serve Him. I believe that Jesus wanted us to be like Him and to help those who are needy and to help heal the sick.
What you say doc? UH-OH! What you say?? lol....look out now. I agree with you on that. If you got it, give. If not, don't worry about it.....but really we can all give something even if its not money: time, talent, possessions.....something to meet a need. We can all do something.
churches do make you feel quilty, and i have come to the conclution , that they know and don't carehow the money comes, through quilt or not , just as long as they get it , I love my pastor and I feel bad when he says that someone thought less of him throuogh how much they gave him . Why is every service gIVE , BRING ME , BRING IT UP HERE , EVERY SERVICE , THERE 5 PEOPLE THAT CAN BRING 500.00 BUT THEY KEEP GOING ON TO THEY GET 20 PEOPLE TO BRING 500.00 , I THOUGHT THE ''YOU SAID WAS FIVE ''
that is a lie THERE IS NO CURSE THAT CAN COME ON YOU IF YOU UNDER THE BLOOD OF YAHUSHUA. Money is not a tithe tithe is time, prayer, also a tenth of what you can. The storehouse is for the people. Not just strangers but the children.
People that would argue against this is a victom of the law of first truths, and that is what ever they was taught they will believe even if someone later on reveals the truth to them, ministerjohnareese@gmail.com
Again please email me ministerjohnareese@gmail.com you are spreading the truth, I believe that God's obligated to give you the blessing tied to that promise , but there is NO CURSE to believers who does not tithe , they will argue that tithing is before the law which is true, but as for the law of first metions where abraham gave a tenth to melchezedek , I can kill them with this ,yes abraham gave a tenth but of the spoils of war and not what he has, people are a victom of the law of 1st truths
I agree with you. The practice of "tithing" existed prior to the law; however, Abram's tithed, was not a "holy tithe." In other words, it was not a commandment from God. Actually, the bible does not say WHY Abram gave a tithe.
Many people say they tithe because Abram tithed, but here is my question: how far do we take Abram's example? Abram also gave the remaining portion of the spoils back to the King of Sodom (someone who represented a pagan/satanic empire).
Should we give 10% to God, and give the remaining portion to satan, as Abram did? Again, if we are going to follow Abram's example, then how far do we take it?
Any amount of money you wish to any cause you choose. Just be a cheerful giver!
The problem I have with the word "tithe" which means tenth is that people do look at the law and how the tithe was mandated for Israel, and try to make it the same case for Christians. It is also taught in churches today in error that you will be cursed if you do not tithe, and this is a false teaching based on a misunderstanding of Mal 3. Give what God puts on your heart if one, ten, or 100 percent to his glory.
I also agree that giving is indeed seen in the new covenant, and we as Christians should give... HOWEVER it may not mean you give to your church in the offering, you may need to give to the family who needs their rent paid, or the homeless man on the street.
I tithe to live and live because I tithe! Because I tithe, my family is Blessed and I give because I'm Blessed to give. Some say I can't afford to give but honestly I can't afford not to give. My church gives because of the tithes collected and by no means pockets any of it! It goes to the up keep of the church and the community. But to each is own.
I agree with you 100% tithing is not a New Testament teaching. We must shift our attention to the teaches of this greed-based teaching the men and women that teach this deception should be closely watched. In order to deceive people you must have a deceiving spirit. I'm 64 years old and not also have been brought up in the church and of experience so much deception is directly what made it with a Falls Church. Be aware
that was a flawless teaching on giving!!!, 99% of tithers either give to avoid the "curse" or because they think God is gonna make them rich and prosperous and all the other foolish idealogies of this false doctrine of prosperity...we should give only to give and because our love toward people compels us to meet the needs of others around us, in fact the upkeep of a building has hindered us the body of Christ to the true gospel of charity!!
@ladylovelylocs..I too give a % of my pay 2 ministry DESPITE HAVING STUDIED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT TITHING. but I was not able 2 have this freedom until I Learned the truth. CHURCHES PURPOSELY DON'T TEACH THE TRUTH BECAUSE THEY DON'T TRUST THE HEARTS OF THEIR MEMBERS or they are greedy...Everything I'm about 2 write ABOUT TITHING is IN THE BIBLE. .....tithing was 1st required by the theocracy ..money was never tithed...the poor NEVER tithed they reaped tithes, tithe was for SIN, levites, poor ppl
First of all, because we live under grace and not the law I believe that we can give what ever amount we want too, but we need to make sure that what ever we give it is given from a cheerful heart. The word tithing means10% of our income. But even before the law was given to Moses people were already giving a portion of their income to the Lord, just look at Abraham and even Cain and Abel. Also, you will never ever be under a curse becasue you don't tithe/offering. We live under grace.
I agree with you 100%. I belong to a large church and my pastor lives in excess million dollar home and Bentley. I see that and I wonder where the money for those things come from.
God says to seek after eternal things. Paying your utilities but not giving to God is putting things that perish before God. I believe in putting God first, and paying the tithe (a tenth) then He will supply our every need.
The fact that someone even had to ask wether or not to take care of their family or pay tithes shows the extent to which these pulpit pimps have brainwashed people. I actually had a dear friend of mine, a grown man, ask me if I thought it was okay to disagree with the pastor. That is another example of brainwashing. An otherwise intelligent man scared to disagree with another man just because he has the title of pastor. I'm glad I don't go to church anymore. Most are just 501 (c) 3 businesses.
...for the sake of maintaining or attaining a certain lifestyle, mock the word of God by tying the yoke of tithing around their congregants neck. That is a stench in the nostrils of the Lord. Also, the whole notion of tithing being required rivals what the Word says about generosity. The tithe mandate facilitates compulsory giving, but if a person tithe because they fell like it, not because they are being told they need to in order to wart of curses, is generosity.
Cont'd, Part 3: ...aside a portion of their salary. He didn’t want unnecessary time taking up taking up a collection then. The people also wanted to give and so to make the effort more organized or efficient, he instructed them to do it that way, but he never echoed this same directive in his other letters to the other churches, which shows that it was not a “church wide” mandate. I don’t see anything wrong with a person wanting to give a tithe, but my problem is when preachers, ...
It was instituted to make provision for the poor. This is what the text in Malachi 3 is getting at. While the religious leaders were being selfish and not fulfilling their requirement to tithe so that there would be meat in the house of God, the poor were suffering. While tithing is biblical, it is not Christian. When the 1st century saints gave, they did so because there was an imminent need, not because it was law. This goes back to Paul telling the Galatians to set...
I have studied the subject and I cannot express the magnitude of liberation I felt when I found out the truth about the tithe as we know it in the New Testament. The thing is, there is no mandate given unto the church in the New Testament for a tithe and what Paul told the Galatians to do does not constitute a systemic mandate that the body of Christ was/is to adhere to. Historically speaking, the tithe was instituted by God in the OT to serve as the nation of Israel's taxation system.
Let me try and shed some light on this subject about tithing. First tithing came about long before the law was given. Abraham gave a portion of what he had to the Lord, even Cain and Abel did the same thing. But if we really look at what the New Testament says, Jesus said that we are to sell everything we have and give it away, so I would rather pay 10% then 100%. Secondly, because we live under grace their is no curse upon us. We don't liver under the law.
@panasonic4me, Abraham, Able, and even Cain gave b/c they wanted to give, not because there was a mandate to give. The reason why Cain was uptight is because the Lord accepted his brother's and not his. Why? Because Cain's motives were off. As a matter of fact,Cain exhibited, initially, the same attitude the IC system has when it comes to tithing... religious. Though tithing as a requirement came about under the Levitical Law as a forshadow of the offering that would be spilled out in Jesus,
@panasonic4me the requirement is not Christian... In other words, there is NO MANDATE set before the church telling us to set aside a portion of our salery perpetually. When saints took up offerings in the 1st cent, it was b/c there was an imminent need. Also, you cannot use Jesus command to the 'rich young ruler' as a mandate before the church to tithe b/c "in context," Jesus was explaining to him that salvation is under grace not the Law. Remember he asked him before he told him to sell...
...everything, if he had kept the Law. The young man told him yes he did and even from his youth. However, Jesus told him there was one thing he lacked... "sell all you have, GIVE TO THE POOR and COME FOLLOW ME. Jesus was getting at the matter of the young man's heart... See, he had obeyed the Law with his hands, i.e. "doing," supposing he was truly worshiping the Lord, but remember, GOD IS SPIRIT AND THOSE WHO WORSHIP MUST DO SO IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH.The Law will not...
....allow you to do this because the Law cannot change the heart, but grace through faith by the power of the Holy Spirit can.
In reality, when tithes are collected in most churches, the MAJORITY of the money does not even go towards feeding the orphan and widow of the fellowship, but rather it goes towards keeping the system functioning, i.e. the pastor and musicians' saleries, overhead,and extra's for the pastor and church building.However, the origin of the...
... was set up to take care of the poor--smh.Why do you think Jesus was upset and said in the temple as he saw the dignitaries bringing their "gifts" to the alter and the widow who only had a mite to give, gave her last?hose wicked leaders in the temple who should have figured out by the time the Lord arrived on the scene what the tithes and offering was about, made it about ritual and the poor widow ended up giving her last rather than being provided for by the leaders.
This question is easy for me. The answer for me is found in 1 Timothy 5:8; I will take care of my household and family needs before I allot any money towards an ecclesiastical institution. THEN, I will give what I have purposeth in my heart after my expenses are paid. What kind of God would want me to give money to a church or pastor before I take care of my family?
Look up the meaning of tithe. It means a tenth. Did you really think God was someone to use a word trivially or mistakenly? Give cheerfully remembering that you are not doing this for Christ because He does not need it. We, on the other hand, need his blessing. The money we have is a blessing from Him. We need to Tithe before we do anything else with the money because it becomes more difficult once we have done other things with it. Give God what is RIGHT, not what is LEFT.
I'll Never tithes again BC I've learned tithes were never money but crops/livestock we R not under the law of tithes but 2give2 the Ministry poor fatherless widows I grew up N church2 I've been robbed many yrs when I found out I put a stop on the check but funny thing I spoke 2them N they said they never received it. It was given (funny) I've heard this yrs ago but never investigated. tithes could only B given 2the levites & they gave 2the priest. BTW I'm gonna suing my pastor 4my back tithes
by the way this is a great video on giving.just like you said you can give what ever you feel to give in mark 12:41-44 the poor widow felt to give all she had and jesus commended her.acts 4:34-37 people was selling their lands and homes to give.under the new testament like you said we can give 5%,10%,20% even a 100% if you feel moved by the SPIRIT.you are a great teacher my sister in christ.GOD BLESS
first,tithing is not for the church.i know pastors always scaring people if you don't tithe you will be curse.tithing was never money if you read leviticus 27:30-34,matthew 23:23.just like the verses ladylovelylocs was reading we give according to 2 corin 9:6-7.tithe become a law,galatians 3:13 jesus redeemed us from the curse of the law and being made a curse for us.this is just a little info on this subject.GOD BLESS
Some of those that tithe, pass the poor hungry man on the street and give him nothing. Some pastors want no part of the torah law except the part about tithing. If you do not live in Israel, there is no temple, there is no Levitical priests, there is no tithe. Yeshua said to feed and clothe the poor. The pastors who are buying the jets and wearing the diamonds should open their church doors, there should be no government welfare programs, the church should take care of the needy.
The church should actually be helping the young woman who asked the question. My pastor does not live in excess but our church has tens of thousands set aside for a new church building. There is some Sundays we had 30 people in church total. Why do we need a new building. We live in a poverty stricken community and we do nothing. My opinion falls on death ears. I can't leave because my husband wants to stay. I can only pray.
wow! U just clarified what so many people tip toe around. What you said not only makes sense. It lines up with the word of God. Now people can have peace in their hearts knowing that if were unable to give 10%, were not cursed. God looks at the heart. I was blessed by this! God bless you woman of god
well said.These churches put it's congregation back under the levitical preisthood and paul taught not to do that to gentiles.Not only that but that was something GOD set up for Israel at the solomons temple.If we as a church take on this Levital tithe we might aswell get circumsised aswel.You cant take one without the other. tihes was a lesson to the ISRAELITES to look after there own people with the wealth they have, a lesson that this church needs to learn, by helping the poor pay their bills
Those who seek the true shall find it. Too many believers just go to church and take the Pastor word for it, instead of reading the word. This was a great response to the question. Also many people may think this is a way of getting out of paying tithes. But we should still be givers.
Woman of God, you just set me free and I've been preaching and leading for upwards of 10 years in the church! God bless and keep you for your willingness to share the captive-freeing, true Gospel of Jesus Christ!
Woman of God, this is so very good. Thank you so much. By far, this is one of the greatest areas of bondage in the church, yet much of what is taught is not at all in compliance with the word of God. I thank God for you. I love to see people get free! AMEN.
It is important for us to have a personal relationship with the Lord to know for ourselves what the Word says; otherwise, people will begin to impose their "truths" on you and not the Truth of the Lord. There are other ways to give besides monetarily. You can give of your time, commitment to Christ, evangelism to teach & spread the Gospel, and so on. Like you were saying, if you have it to give, give it with sincerity and don't regret it later. He wants you to give unto Him all of your cares.
The church does this for our benefit not theirs. they are required to keep a record for governmental purposes (taxes, 501C3, etc). For instance people who want to file their "charitable" giving on their tax returns need to have an itemized list from the church if those gifts are over a certain amount. So the church has to keep a record of that.
I wish there were more BOLD SOLDIERS like u. Too many pastors r leading their members blind. And God is going to hold them responsible. And not only the pastor but members too. U better grow up and smell the roses b4 it's too late.
The Holy Spirit will ALWAYS guide us in all truth. The Tithe was for the Hebrew people. That was the law given to THEM. The Gentiles who are now grafted in, are not bound under that law. Christ already came, which the law was a witness for. The law was a school master keeping us in check until Christ was revealed. Giving should not be forced, and manipulated by anyone. We should give freely and CHEERFULLY!...But nothing is wrong with tithing, if a believe so PURPOSED in his heart to give that.
If you read the book of Leviticus and Dueteronomy, you will see that there is ONE law for the Israelite & the stranger. Not two different ones. However, the tithe was specifically for the Levites since they had no inheritance among the rest of the tribes. It was tithe on AGRICULTURAL increase and literally MEAT, not coins & dollars. Today's pastors are not Levitical priests & we don't live in Israel, so Pay yer bills since u owe em & yes, give cheerfully. Otherwise tithe 4 the poor & fatherless
you sound ignorant to biblical, spiritual and natural truth. i'm sorry if u have been hurt by false ministers and the religious order but you need the lord heal your heart
They largely do that b/c many tithers itemize their income taxes and need that info to get write-offs. My pastor offers us our info for taxes but I never take it cuz for some reason my tax man keeps saying I'd get more on my return if I didn't itemize adn took the time to show me my return itemized vs a standard return. Hope that helps.
1 Corinthians 16:2 is NOT speaking about money. Scriptures teaches that we are to give to the poor the widowed and orphaned. Is the pastor of the church a widow? Is the pastor of the church poor? Is the pastor of the church an orphan. No? Then the pastor does not deserve your money! Tithing in the Scriptures was grain NEVER money. So the next time a pastor asks for a tithe, bring him a loaf of bread! Shalom!
**Standing and clapping for your words** You surprised me this time LLL, I really expected you to be one sided on this issue (begging your pardon, because I know I don't know you). I'm glad to see that you've interpreted the word in a way that is rational and practical in our everyday needs. This is another great vid. Guilt can weigh heavy on a person, even run them away from the church, but this is a great perspective. Thanks again.
Unfortunately the church that I attend has a BAD history with money. I give to people that I know are in need. I go with money in hand and see if God has someone specific for me to give to, if not, I just give it as I see the need. We are there because we are over the youth ministry because none of the ministers wanted to fool with them. The pastor makes about $900+ a week with only about 50 members. Most of which are in a lower economic bracket and in need.
I am so glad I stumbled upon your channel those months ago! You speak truth! Our generation needs the people of God to stand up and fit in where the leadership slips.Amen! Let them know! ..LOL
This is my response or should I say testimony. I was once laid off from work and making very little money on unemployment. I am a single parent and during this time I was struggling, I mean really struggling. I found that paying tithes gave me an increased faith and took me to a place of peace. The 10% wont be enough to pay the light bill anyway. Through tithing I found that GOD blessed me in other areas and provided everything I needed -including making creditors work with me more than usual.
My mother and I, have the same testimony of God's goodness to us while we were trying to be obedient to Him. God Blesses a cheerful giver and he honors obedience more than sacrifice. We did tithe based on what we thought we had to do, but when we came into the Truth of God's words, giving came straight from our hearts and not out of a duty or impending curse. thanks for commenting!
exactly - I felt it was the right thing to do and I was rewarded - even though my giving was not to receive and my giving was not out of fear - just pure love;-)
Beautiful! Thank you sis. This was well taught. I agree maturity causes us to want to support the body of Christ. I will continue to give. Thanks for helping me rightly divide and understand the word of God on this matter. Thank God for scripture. be Blessed and thanks again for your time. Oh yea I like what you said that if the ppl teach their ppl the word of God they will be glad to give.
Thank you for this video! I have been questioning about tithing for sometime now. I don't have a job so I don't make any money but I see giving my time and heart to the Lord is what he wants from me and to serve Him. I believe that Jesus wanted us to be like Him and to help those who are needy and to help heal the sick.
LaDivaBonita4 2 weeks ago
What you say doc? UH-OH! What you say?? lol....look out now. I agree with you on that. If you got it, give. If not, don't worry about it.....but really we can all give something even if its not money: time, talent, possessions.....something to meet a need. We can all do something.
KingB2K8 2 weeks ago
the bible straight says 10 % NOT 1 % ,
PEB979 1 month ago
churches do make you feel quilty, and i have come to the conclution , that they know and don't carehow the money comes, through quilt or not , just as long as they get it , I love my pastor and I feel bad when he says that someone thought less of him throuogh how much they gave him . Why is every service gIVE , BRING ME , BRING IT UP HERE , EVERY SERVICE , THERE 5 PEOPLE THAT CAN BRING 500.00 BUT THEY KEEP GOING ON TO THEY GET 20 PEOPLE TO BRING 500.00 , I THOUGHT THE ''YOU SAID WAS FIVE ''
PEB979 1 month ago
Let the redeemed say so!
AgeofReason209 2 months ago
I agree sister...
LevittzLivingH20 3 months ago
Good video with good points.
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Aloha, amen sis.. Love dis video...God bless you...A hui hou
MsSanoe 7 months ago
that is a lie THERE IS NO CURSE THAT CAN COME ON YOU IF YOU UNDER THE BLOOD OF YAHUSHUA. Money is not a tithe tithe is time, prayer, also a tenth of what you can. The storehouse is for the people. Not just strangers but the children.
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apostlereese 10 months ago
Again please email me ministerjohnareese@gmail.com you are spreading the truth, I believe that God's obligated to give you the blessing tied to that promise , but there is NO CURSE to believers who does not tithe , they will argue that tithing is before the law which is true, but as for the law of first metions where abraham gave a tenth to melchezedek , I can kill them with this ,yes abraham gave a tenth but of the spoils of war and not what he has, people are a victom of the law of 1st truths
apostlereese 10 months ago
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I agree with you. The practice of "tithing" existed prior to the law; however, Abram's tithed, was not a "holy tithe." In other words, it was not a commandment from God. Actually, the bible does not say WHY Abram gave a tithe.
Many people say they tithe because Abram tithed, but here is my question: how far do we take Abram's example? Abram also gave the remaining portion of the spoils back to the King of Sodom (someone who represented a pagan/satanic empire).
suaved 9 months ago
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Should we give 10% to God, and give the remaining portion to satan, as Abram did? Again, if we are going to follow Abram's example, then how far do we take it?
suaved 9 months ago
Girl you killed them with that 1st timothy, that was case close on the issue then, I'm a minister of music I been preaching this for years
apostlereese 10 months ago
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apostlereese 10 months ago
Any amount of money you wish to any cause you choose. Just be a cheerful giver!
The problem I have with the word "tithe" which means tenth is that people do look at the law and how the tithe was mandated for Israel, and try to make it the same case for Christians. It is also taught in churches today in error that you will be cursed if you do not tithe, and this is a false teaching based on a misunderstanding of Mal 3. Give what God puts on your heart if one, ten, or 100 percent to his glory.
divinelynaptural 10 months ago
I also agree that giving is indeed seen in the new covenant, and we as Christians should give... HOWEVER it may not mean you give to your church in the offering, you may need to give to the family who needs their rent paid, or the homeless man on the street.
divinelynaptural 10 months ago
I tithe to live and live because I tithe! Because I tithe, my family is Blessed and I give because I'm Blessed to give. Some say I can't afford to give but honestly I can't afford not to give. My church gives because of the tithes collected and by no means pockets any of it! It goes to the up keep of the church and the community. But to each is own.
belovedtwilight41 11 months ago
I agree with you 100% tithing is not a New Testament teaching. We must shift our attention to the teaches of this greed-based teaching the men and women that teach this deception should be closely watched. In order to deceive people you must have a deceiving spirit. I'm 64 years old and not also have been brought up in the church and of experience so much deception is directly what made it with a Falls Church. Be aware
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Sturm0190 11 months ago
Pay your bills and keep some for your children. If you want to help your pastor to have a new Bentley that your fucking problem.
H2JKAY 1 year ago
I agree with you LovelyladyLocs
steventhr 1 year ago
Mr Creflo Dollr and thr rest of the prosperity bunch need to hear this! Preach it Sister!
skinnyharum 1 year ago
that was a flawless teaching on giving!!!, 99% of tithers either give to avoid the "curse" or because they think God is gonna make them rich and prosperous and all the other foolish idealogies of this false doctrine of prosperity...we should give only to give and because our love toward people compels us to meet the needs of others around us, in fact the upkeep of a building has hindered us the body of Christ to the true gospel of charity!!
allblacksaint 1 year ago
@ladylovelylocs..I too give a % of my pay 2 ministry DESPITE HAVING STUDIED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT TITHING. but I was not able 2 have this freedom until I Learned the truth. CHURCHES PURPOSELY DON'T TEACH THE TRUTH BECAUSE THEY DON'T TRUST THE HEARTS OF THEIR MEMBERS or they are greedy...Everything I'm about 2 write ABOUT TITHING is IN THE BIBLE. .....tithing was 1st required by the theocracy ..money was never tithed...the poor NEVER tithed they reaped tithes, tithe was for SIN, levites, poor ppl
messejproduction 1 year ago
I do Agree with you sister ,A lot of Pastors are fakes
68Captain1 1 year ago
My concern is that the Church does not teach the Biblical Tithe, which was ALWAYS food.
I would not give one penny to a Church that teaches LIES.
blueskunk12 1 year ago
Sister you are on POINT !!!! God Bless you!!!
Rainy5062002 1 year ago
First of all, because we live under grace and not the law I believe that we can give what ever amount we want too, but we need to make sure that what ever we give it is given from a cheerful heart. The word tithing means10% of our income. But even before the law was given to Moses people were already giving a portion of their income to the Lord, just look at Abraham and even Cain and Abel. Also, you will never ever be under a curse becasue you don't tithe/offering. We live under grace.
panasonic4me 1 year ago
I agree with you 100%. I belong to a large church and my pastor lives in excess million dollar home and Bentley. I see that and I wonder where the money for those things come from.
What is IMHO?
TheTomidu 1 year ago
@TheTomidu IMHO= In my humble opinion
LadyLovelyLocs 1 year ago
God says to seek after eternal things. Paying your utilities but not giving to God is putting things that perish before God. I believe in putting God first, and paying the tithe (a tenth) then He will supply our every need.
tearsdontfall032 1 year ago
The fact that someone even had to ask wether or not to take care of their family or pay tithes shows the extent to which these pulpit pimps have brainwashed people. I actually had a dear friend of mine, a grown man, ask me if I thought it was okay to disagree with the pastor. That is another example of brainwashing. An otherwise intelligent man scared to disagree with another man just because he has the title of pastor. I'm glad I don't go to church anymore. Most are just 501 (c) 3 businesses.
Taaron313 1 year ago
Good video :)
Really enjoyed this. I wish TY would allot more character space for commenting. Sorry for all the comment notifications.
Blessings :)
EnChristosEime4life 1 year ago
Cont'd Part 4:
...for the sake of maintaining or attaining a certain lifestyle, mock the word of God by tying the yoke of tithing around their congregants neck. That is a stench in the nostrils of the Lord. Also, the whole notion of tithing being required rivals what the Word says about generosity. The tithe mandate facilitates compulsory giving, but if a person tithe because they fell like it, not because they are being told they need to in order to wart of curses, is generosity.
EnChristosEime4life 1 year ago
Cont'd, Part 3: ...aside a portion of their salary. He didn’t want unnecessary time taking up taking up a collection then. The people also wanted to give and so to make the effort more organized or efficient, he instructed them to do it that way, but he never echoed this same directive in his other letters to the other churches, which shows that it was not a “church wide” mandate. I don’t see anything wrong with a person wanting to give a tithe, but my problem is when preachers, ...
EnChristosEime4life 1 year ago
Cont't, Part 2:
It was instituted to make provision for the poor. This is what the text in Malachi 3 is getting at. While the religious leaders were being selfish and not fulfilling their requirement to tithe so that there would be meat in the house of God, the poor were suffering. While tithing is biblical, it is not Christian. When the 1st century saints gave, they did so because there was an imminent need, not because it was law. This goes back to Paul telling the Galatians to set...
EnChristosEime4life 1 year ago
PT1:
I have studied the subject and I cannot express the magnitude of liberation I felt when I found out the truth about the tithe as we know it in the New Testament. The thing is, there is no mandate given unto the church in the New Testament for a tithe and what Paul told the Galatians to do does not constitute a systemic mandate that the body of Christ was/is to adhere to. Historically speaking, the tithe was instituted by God in the OT to serve as the nation of Israel's taxation system.
EnChristosEime4life 1 year ago
@EnChristosEime4life
Let me try and shed some light on this subject about tithing. First tithing came about long before the law was given. Abraham gave a portion of what he had to the Lord, even Cain and Abel did the same thing. But if we really look at what the New Testament says, Jesus said that we are to sell everything we have and give it away, so I would rather pay 10% then 100%. Secondly, because we live under grace their is no curse upon us. We don't liver under the law.
panasonic4me 1 year ago
@panasonic4me, Abraham, Able, and even Cain gave b/c they wanted to give, not because there was a mandate to give. The reason why Cain was uptight is because the Lord accepted his brother's and not his. Why? Because Cain's motives were off. As a matter of fact,Cain exhibited, initially, the same attitude the IC system has when it comes to tithing... religious. Though tithing as a requirement came about under the Levitical Law as a forshadow of the offering that would be spilled out in Jesus,
EnChristosEime4life 1 year ago
@panasonic4me the requirement is not Christian... In other words, there is NO MANDATE set before the church telling us to set aside a portion of our salery perpetually. When saints took up offerings in the 1st cent, it was b/c there was an imminent need. Also, you cannot use Jesus command to the 'rich young ruler' as a mandate before the church to tithe b/c "in context," Jesus was explaining to him that salvation is under grace not the Law. Remember he asked him before he told him to sell...
EnChristosEime4life 1 year ago
@panasonic4me ...cont'd
...everything, if he had kept the Law. The young man told him yes he did and even from his youth. However, Jesus told him there was one thing he lacked... "sell all you have, GIVE TO THE POOR and COME FOLLOW ME. Jesus was getting at the matter of the young man's heart... See, he had obeyed the Law with his hands, i.e. "doing," supposing he was truly worshiping the Lord, but remember, GOD IS SPIRIT AND THOSE WHO WORSHIP MUST DO SO IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH.The Law will not...
EnChristosEime4life 1 year ago
@panasonic4me ...cont'd
....allow you to do this because the Law cannot change the heart, but grace through faith by the power of the Holy Spirit can.
In reality, when tithes are collected in most churches, the MAJORITY of the money does not even go towards feeding the orphan and widow of the fellowship, but rather it goes towards keeping the system functioning, i.e. the pastor and musicians' saleries, overhead,and extra's for the pastor and church building.However, the origin of the...
EnChristosEime4life 1 year ago
@panaso ....cont'd
... was set up to take care of the poor--smh.Why do you think Jesus was upset and said in the temple as he saw the dignitaries bringing their "gifts" to the alter and the widow who only had a mite to give, gave her last?hose wicked leaders in the temple who should have figured out by the time the Lord arrived on the scene what the tithes and offering was about, made it about ritual and the poor widow ended up giving her last rather than being provided for by the leaders.
EnChristosEime4life 1 year ago
This question is easy for me. The answer for me is found in 1 Timothy 5:8; I will take care of my household and family needs before I allot any money towards an ecclesiastical institution. THEN, I will give what I have purposeth in my heart after my expenses are paid. What kind of God would want me to give money to a church or pastor before I take care of my family?
suaved 1 year ago
Look up the meaning of tithe. It means a tenth. Did you really think God was someone to use a word trivially or mistakenly? Give cheerfully remembering that you are not doing this for Christ because He does not need it. We, on the other hand, need his blessing. The money we have is a blessing from Him. We need to Tithe before we do anything else with the money because it becomes more difficult once we have done other things with it. Give God what is RIGHT, not what is LEFT.
themichiganmom77 2 years ago
powerful...you read verses that you rarely hear in church.
Thanks for sharing. God bless
cherrimichelle 2 years ago
The church is suppose to help the poor.
HairNailsBeautytips 2 years ago
I'll Never tithes again BC I've learned tithes were never money but crops/livestock we R not under the law of tithes but 2give2 the Ministry poor fatherless widows I grew up N church2 I've been robbed many yrs when I found out I put a stop on the check but funny thing I spoke 2them N they said they never received it. It was given (funny) I've heard this yrs ago but never investigated. tithes could only B given 2the levites & they gave 2the priest. BTW I'm gonna suing my pastor 4my back tithes
SINGUNTO 2 years ago
by the way this is a great video on giving.just like you said you can give what ever you feel to give in mark 12:41-44 the poor widow felt to give all she had and jesus commended her.acts 4:34-37 people was selling their lands and homes to give.under the new testament like you said we can give 5%,10%,20% even a 100% if you feel moved by the SPIRIT.you are a great teacher my sister in christ.GOD BLESS
elohimthegods33 2 years ago
first,tithing is not for the church.i know pastors always scaring people if you don't tithe you will be curse.tithing was never money if you read leviticus 27:30-34,matthew 23:23.just like the verses ladylovelylocs was reading we give according to 2 corin 9:6-7.tithe become a law,galatians 3:13 jesus redeemed us from the curse of the law and being made a curse for us.this is just a little info on this subject.GOD BLESS
elohimthegods33 2 years ago
Some of those that tithe, pass the poor hungry man on the street and give him nothing. Some pastors want no part of the torah law except the part about tithing. If you do not live in Israel, there is no temple, there is no Levitical priests, there is no tithe. Yeshua said to feed and clothe the poor. The pastors who are buying the jets and wearing the diamonds should open their church doors, there should be no government welfare programs, the church should take care of the needy.
wheatandtares 2 years ago 12
Well said and well done Sista!
Good solid teaching about tithing. Keep speaking the TRUTH.
Thanks for posting.
YourTitheExpert 2 years ago
The church should actually be helping the young woman who asked the question. My pastor does not live in excess but our church has tens of thousands set aside for a new church building. There is some Sundays we had 30 people in church total. Why do we need a new building. We live in a poverty stricken community and we do nothing. My opinion falls on death ears. I can't leave because my husband wants to stay. I can only pray.
rosettegarbanz 2 years ago 4
WOW!! Tens of thousands set aside for a new church with 30 people in church. IMHO, that's a shame!!!
LadyLovelyLocs 2 years ago
@rosettegarbanz
The sad thing here is that the Church is saving money to build a new building while ignoring the TRUE Church, the people in the building.
The Church is not a pile of wood and stone, it is a living thing - the people who follow Jesus.
Even sadder is that the Church is deaf to the truth. They believe they are following God, when really they don't even know Him.
Keep speaking the truth even if no one listens! You're in good company - most people didn't listen to Jesus, either.
blueskunk12 1 year ago
thats good stuff!
MRsaxuallyactive 2 years ago
wow! U just clarified what so many people tip toe around. What you said not only makes sense. It lines up with the word of God. Now people can have peace in their hearts knowing that if were unable to give 10%, were not cursed. God looks at the heart. I was blessed by this! God bless you woman of god
Noturavgchick1 2 years ago
well said.These churches put it's congregation back under the levitical preisthood and paul taught not to do that to gentiles.Not only that but that was something GOD set up for Israel at the solomons temple.If we as a church take on this Levital tithe we might aswell get circumsised aswel.You cant take one without the other. tihes was a lesson to the ISRAELITES to look after there own people with the wealth they have, a lesson that this church needs to learn, by helping the poor pay their bills
Rep2keep33 2 years ago
Those who seek the true shall find it. Too many believers just go to church and take the Pastor word for it, instead of reading the word. This was a great response to the question. Also many people may think this is a way of getting out of paying tithes. But we should still be givers.
trabalo1 2 years ago
Woman of God, you just set me free and I've been preaching and leading for upwards of 10 years in the church! God bless and keep you for your willingness to share the captive-freeing, true Gospel of Jesus Christ!
carnivaltriumph86 2 years ago
God bless you. I love you for your love of God. thank you
ManiSimone 2 years ago
Woman of God, this is so very good. Thank you so much. By far, this is one of the greatest areas of bondage in the church, yet much of what is taught is not at all in compliance with the word of God. I thank God for you. I love to see people get free! AMEN.
ProphetessJoy 2 years ago
It is important for us to have a personal relationship with the Lord to know for ourselves what the Word says; otherwise, people will begin to impose their "truths" on you and not the Truth of the Lord. There are other ways to give besides monetarily. You can give of your time, commitment to Christ, evangelism to teach & spread the Gospel, and so on. Like you were saying, if you have it to give, give it with sincerity and don't regret it later. He wants you to give unto Him all of your cares.
lovewater1 2 years ago
The church does this for our benefit not theirs. they are required to keep a record for governmental purposes (taxes, 501C3, etc). For instance people who want to file their "charitable" giving on their tax returns need to have an itemized list from the church if those gifts are over a certain amount. So the church has to keep a record of that.
luvmenaturally 2 years ago
I wish there were more BOLD SOLDIERS like u. Too many pastors r leading their members blind. And God is going to hold them responsible. And not only the pastor but members too. U better grow up and smell the roses b4 it's too late.
Godsend01989 2 years ago
The Holy Spirit will ALWAYS guide us in all truth. The Tithe was for the Hebrew people. That was the law given to THEM. The Gentiles who are now grafted in, are not bound under that law. Christ already came, which the law was a witness for. The law was a school master keeping us in check until Christ was revealed. Giving should not be forced, and manipulated by anyone. We should give freely and CHEERFULLY!...But nothing is wrong with tithing, if a believe so PURPOSED in his heart to give that.
keeshaweesha2 2 years ago 2
If you read the book of Leviticus and Dueteronomy, you will see that there is ONE law for the Israelite & the stranger. Not two different ones. However, the tithe was specifically for the Levites since they had no inheritance among the rest of the tribes. It was tithe on AGRICULTURAL increase and literally MEAT, not coins & dollars. Today's pastors are not Levitical priests & we don't live in Israel, so Pay yer bills since u owe em & yes, give cheerfully. Otherwise tithe 4 the poor & fatherless
WONDAWOMAN 2 years ago 2
you sound ignorant to biblical, spiritual and natural truth. i'm sorry if u have been hurt by false ministers and the religious order but you need the lord heal your heart
osaluese 2 years ago
thank you for this video and for the bible references and clarity.
flidflaz 2 years ago
Amen.
LadyLovelyLocs 2 years ago
Thank God someone knows the difference between forced religion and spiritual living in the Lord!
scarletrose17 2 years ago
AMEN! Thank GOD for revealing TRUTH!
LadyLovelyLocs 2 years ago
Thank you for your passion and love in sharing the practical of giving.
benitaleabrady 3 years ago
They largely do that b/c many tithers itemize their income taxes and need that info to get write-offs. My pastor offers us our info for taxes but I never take it cuz for some reason my tax man keeps saying I'd get more on my return if I didn't itemize adn took the time to show me my return itemized vs a standard return. Hope that helps.
DeFinedInteriors 3 years ago
Amen! I love watching your videos. This was a blessing for me. Continue to let God use you. You will be exceedingly, abundantly blessed.
summbodee 3 years ago
1 Corinthians 16:2 is NOT speaking about money. Scriptures teaches that we are to give to the poor the widowed and orphaned. Is the pastor of the church a widow? Is the pastor of the church poor? Is the pastor of the church an orphan. No? Then the pastor does not deserve your money! Tithing in the Scriptures was grain NEVER money. So the next time a pastor asks for a tithe, bring him a loaf of bread! Shalom!
Yahsgirl66 3 years ago 6
Thankyou so much for posting this video. It has been a tremendous help :O)
Thanks Again
Peace and Blessings
BubbleGumDreamz 3 years ago
THANK YOU
f66048 3 years ago
**Standing and clapping for your words** You surprised me this time LLL, I really expected you to be one sided on this issue (begging your pardon, because I know I don't know you). I'm glad to see that you've interpreted the word in a way that is rational and practical in our everyday needs. This is another great vid. Guilt can weigh heavy on a person, even run them away from the church, but this is a great perspective. Thanks again.
hoodgyno 3 years ago
Unfortunately the church that I attend has a BAD history with money. I give to people that I know are in need. I go with money in hand and see if God has someone specific for me to give to, if not, I just give it as I see the need. We are there because we are over the youth ministry because none of the ministers wanted to fool with them. The pastor makes about $900+ a week with only about 50 members. Most of which are in a lower economic bracket and in need.
mrsbroom1 3 years ago
Very well said!!
DLP1962 3 years ago
Praise God! Thanks you for commenting!
LadyLovelyLocs 3 years ago
I am so glad I stumbled upon your channel those months ago! You speak truth! Our generation needs the people of God to stand up and fit in where the leadership slips.Amen! Let them know! ..LOL
cjagsubr 3 years ago
Praise God!...Old folks say....if I can HELP somebody....anybody....Lord send me!
LadyLovelyLocs 3 years ago
This is my response or should I say testimony. I was once laid off from work and making very little money on unemployment. I am a single parent and during this time I was struggling, I mean really struggling. I found that paying tithes gave me an increased faith and took me to a place of peace. The 10% wont be enough to pay the light bill anyway. Through tithing I found that GOD blessed me in other areas and provided everything I needed -including making creditors work with me more than usual.
curlmebella 3 years ago
My mother and I, have the same testimony of God's goodness to us while we were trying to be obedient to Him. God Blesses a cheerful giver and he honors obedience more than sacrifice. We did tithe based on what we thought we had to do, but when we came into the Truth of God's words, giving came straight from our hearts and not out of a duty or impending curse. thanks for commenting!
LadyLovelyLocs 3 years ago
exactly - I felt it was the right thing to do and I was rewarded - even though my giving was not to receive and my giving was not out of fear - just pure love;-)
curlmebella 3 years ago
well well go head and preach
PK4Christ 3 years ago
Praise God!
LadyLovelyLocs 3 years ago
Oh you are speaking a WORD mother!!!! WOW!!! I totally agree. GREAT video!!!
CreeBee 3 years ago
Praise God!
LadyLovelyLocs 3 years ago
I like how you tackle controversial topics and HELP others in the body of Christ. That is loving.
God is not concerned with money. He wants you to submit to Him and to give by the Spirit. To be Spirit led not by pressures of ignorant people.
Yes 1 Timothy 5:8!
I can't stand when people use Malachi out of context! You can give without the concept of tithing also.
VersatileMind4Christ 3 years ago
Amen Sis, i agree. I think the same of ur vids!
LadyLovelyLocs 3 years ago
Beautiful! Thank you sis. This was well taught. I agree maturity causes us to want to support the body of Christ. I will continue to give. Thanks for helping me rightly divide and understand the word of God on this matter. Thank God for scripture. be Blessed and thanks again for your time. Oh yea I like what you said that if the ppl teach their ppl the word of God they will be glad to give.
livinmybestlife 3 years ago
Thank u Sis!
LadyLovelyLocs 3 years ago