I actually like that Canonical is developing their own user interface for Ubuntu. This way it can give it its own original look and feel. And if someone wants to use Ubuntu. but doesn't like Unity, they can install XFCE 4 which can be easily customized to look identical to Gnome 2, which is what you refer to as Ubuntu Classic.
@the0real0realitykid Canonical is a business. So, they will do what they need to do for profits. And have no problem with that. With that said, their new UI is a move backward compare to Gnome 2. The same goes for Gnome 3.
ubuntu 11.04 will be the last ubuntu i use because it still has gnome 2. only reason i upgraded was to get the latest kernel and packages. but i'm planning to move to something else, like linux mint or something
realisticly you're acting like ubuntu users and not linux users, there are plenty of different ways you can have ubuntu: xubuntu / lubuntu / kubuntu, you're not restricted to ubuntu btw >,> ubuntu is linux for newbs and ease of use, there's no need to kick your bottle out your pram just cause they're trying to help the next range of newbs.. time to grow up and go find the linux that's right for you. and if you think looks are what makes a distro, then go learn something about window managers ffs
@oOJINxOo1 Dude, unless you can write code from scratch like Richard Stallman, you are still a "newbs" or just another CPP (copy and paste pro) user like the rest of us.
Linux wasn't meant to be difficult to use, it's early stage made it look like so. But Linux is not in it early stage anymore.
@alexthehaitian That's besides the point, configuring a wm isnt hard. if it is then unity is for you.
linux is linux, ubuntu makes it easy yes, and unity is for people that don't wish to have to tinker. is it unity you're not happy with or a lack of willingness to take a step and tailor other WMs to your needs?
@alexthehaitian (sry for 2nd post, i'll stop after this ;3) gnome/kde are slow but shiny, open/flux/blackbox are WMs aimed towards devs, and that's what linux wants still, more devs. And yes i can code a little, tinker'd with python for afew years now, learnt bits and pieces of other languages but is just a hobby for me, so yeah i'm a coding newb x3 everyone has to start somewhere
also sorry for being a douche with my opinion, it's just the way i see things tho, linux is about learning.
@oOJINxOo1 There is nothing wrong at being a CPP. I am a philomath myself. You are welcome to post as my comments you want. It's ok to have an little intelligent discussion going on with anyone who can keep up.
@alexthehaitian it's the negative coverage that gets me recently i guess xD there's alot of people hating on unity and 2bf i'd not use it myself (probably will test it soon tho..next you'll hear from me will be a long winded appology probably xD), if it's inviting to mac and windows users then i see this as a positive thing. tho after watching your vid again i can relate to what you're saying about inviting new users. (continued in next post)
@alexthehaitian but this has been a trouble for along time i think. my first linux was slackware, if i were to invite someone to try linux today i'd still be split between throwing them in the deep end with something like arch or having them start the latest ubu with unity..
(p.s i like your desktop, little bright for my personal tastes/eyes but very nice :3)
@novelldesktop There is nothing wrong about making money. It would be nice to see Ubuntu on all new PCs out of the box. The issues are they are trying to eradicate GUI that work well for a slow unproductive restricted graphical user interface. Ubuntu can't design.
ubuntu is finished. I left ubuntu and switched to linuxmint debian xfce. somebody should sue ubuntu for using this unity junk under the ubuntu name. this is not ubuntu! Its a brand new linux disto that is cashing in on the Ubuntu name we once new. Im not afraid to be politically correct myself. the truth of the matter is unity is JUNK, JUNK, JUNK! I have never seen such a out cry of dissatisfaction in linux and I'm totally amazed as this takes place shuttleworth still has his back turned
@TheLinuxminded I may go straight to the source and start using Debian. But, Debian take so long to update to new apps version.
Or, I may use Ubuntu Server, and compile everything else. It would take so long to compile all the programs I used. Plus, It's not something I can recommend to my friends that are new to Linux.
@alexthehaitian do not worry, my friend, linuxmint debian xfce edition is nothing like what debian used to be! no more long waits for apps! Thats a thing of the past. Mints future is very very bright now. they are no longer a frozen release like ubuntu is, they are updating now continuously. Also after downloading and installing gnome 3 on 11.04y, gnome 3 does not support compiz any longer! they have there own built in version and that it!
I totally agree with what u r saying! I rolled back to ubuntu 10.04 LTS after the 11.04 unity release, i was pretty annoyed that the gnome +compiz setup i had was not being supported. Like u say, it works fine! Why change it? I may be searching for another linux ditribution if it doesn't improve, i dont like KDE , Gnome i like . unity was like an ipad, my pc isnt an ipad!
I actually like that Canonical is developing their own user interface for Ubuntu. This way it can give it its own original look and feel. And if someone wants to use Ubuntu. but doesn't like Unity, they can install XFCE 4 which can be easily customized to look identical to Gnome 2, which is what you refer to as Ubuntu Classic.
I'm starting to get used to Unity.
the0real0realitykid 4 months ago
@the0real0realitykid Canonical is a business. So, they will do what they need to do for profits. And have no problem with that. With that said, their new UI is a move backward compare to Gnome 2. The same goes for Gnome 3.
alexthehaitian 4 months ago
ubuntu 11.04 will be the last ubuntu i use because it still has gnome 2. only reason i upgraded was to get the latest kernel and packages. but i'm planning to move to something else, like linux mint or something
johnhurt888 9 months ago
@johnhurt888 Wont you try the Ubuntu Server first with whatever UI Iike on top of it?
alexthehaitian 9 months ago
Fador 14 will come with GNOME 3 and it is way better than Unity .
Unity is slow , buggy, crap , that is not working....
maw88ify 9 months ago
@maw88ify As long as Gnome 3 is fully customizable with no restriction, I'll use it.
alexthehaitian 9 months ago
realisticly you're acting like ubuntu users and not linux users, there are plenty of different ways you can have ubuntu: xubuntu / lubuntu / kubuntu, you're not restricted to ubuntu btw >,> ubuntu is linux for newbs and ease of use, there's no need to kick your bottle out your pram just cause they're trying to help the next range of newbs.. time to grow up and go find the linux that's right for you. and if you think looks are what makes a distro, then go learn something about window managers ffs
oOJINxOo1 9 months ago
@oOJINxOo1 Dude, unless you can write code from scratch like Richard Stallman, you are still a "newbs" or just another CPP (copy and paste pro) user like the rest of us.
Linux wasn't meant to be difficult to use, it's early stage made it look like so. But Linux is not in it early stage anymore.
alexthehaitian 9 months ago
@alexthehaitian That's besides the point, configuring a wm isnt hard. if it is then unity is for you.
linux is linux, ubuntu makes it easy yes, and unity is for people that don't wish to have to tinker. is it unity you're not happy with or a lack of willingness to take a step and tailor other WMs to your needs?
oOJINxOo1 9 months ago
@oOJINxOo1 Customizing Window and Desktop Manager is taking candy from a baby. You telling me stuff I already know.
alexthehaitian 9 months ago
@alexthehaitian (sry for 2nd post, i'll stop after this ;3) gnome/kde are slow but shiny, open/flux/blackbox are WMs aimed towards devs, and that's what linux wants still, more devs. And yes i can code a little, tinker'd with python for afew years now, learnt bits and pieces of other languages but is just a hobby for me, so yeah i'm a coding newb x3 everyone has to start somewhere
also sorry for being a douche with my opinion, it's just the way i see things tho, linux is about learning.
oOJINxOo1 9 months ago
@oOJINxOo1 There is nothing wrong at being a CPP. I am a philomath myself. You are welcome to post as my comments you want. It's ok to have an little intelligent discussion going on with anyone who can keep up.
Can you keep up? :)
alexthehaitian 9 months ago
@alexthehaitian it's the negative coverage that gets me recently i guess xD there's alot of people hating on unity and 2bf i'd not use it myself (probably will test it soon tho..next you'll hear from me will be a long winded appology probably xD), if it's inviting to mac and windows users then i see this as a positive thing. tho after watching your vid again i can relate to what you're saying about inviting new users. (continued in next post)
oOJINxOo1 9 months ago
@alexthehaitian but this has been a trouble for along time i think. my first linux was slackware, if i were to invite someone to try linux today i'd still be split between throwing them in the deep end with something like arch or having them start the latest ubu with unity..
(p.s i like your desktop, little bright for my personal tastes/eyes but very nice :3)
oOJINxOo1 9 months ago
canonical will need to make money at some stage
i know people who deleted the panel by mistake, the panel is now just indicators like windows and mac thats ok.
i agree that people should not be restricted.
apple is very restricted and so is windows.
novelldesktop 9 months ago
@novelldesktop There is nothing wrong about making money. It would be nice to see Ubuntu on all new PCs out of the box. The issues are they are trying to eradicate GUI that work well for a slow unproductive restricted graphical user interface. Ubuntu can't design.
alexthehaitian 9 months ago
ubuntu is finished. I left ubuntu and switched to linuxmint debian xfce. somebody should sue ubuntu for using this unity junk under the ubuntu name. this is not ubuntu! Its a brand new linux disto that is cashing in on the Ubuntu name we once new. Im not afraid to be politically correct myself. the truth of the matter is unity is JUNK, JUNK, JUNK! I have never seen such a out cry of dissatisfaction in linux and I'm totally amazed as this takes place shuttleworth still has his back turned
TheLinuxminded 9 months ago 2
@TheLinuxminded I may go straight to the source and start using Debian. But, Debian take so long to update to new apps version.
Or, I may use Ubuntu Server, and compile everything else. It would take so long to compile all the programs I used. Plus, It's not something I can recommend to my friends that are new to Linux.
alexthehaitian 9 months ago
@alexthehaitian do not worry, my friend, linuxmint debian xfce edition is nothing like what debian used to be! no more long waits for apps! Thats a thing of the past. Mints future is very very bright now. they are no longer a frozen release like ubuntu is, they are updating now continuously. Also after downloading and installing gnome 3 on 11.04y, gnome 3 does not support compiz any longer! they have there own built in version and that it!
TheLinuxminded 9 months ago
I totally agree with what u r saying! I rolled back to ubuntu 10.04 LTS after the 11.04 unity release, i was pretty annoyed that the gnome +compiz setup i had was not being supported. Like u say, it works fine! Why change it? I may be searching for another linux ditribution if it doesn't improve, i dont like KDE , Gnome i like . unity was like an ipad, my pc isnt an ipad!
Thanks for the video!
GPEART1 9 months ago
@GPEART1 Have you tried Debian? Ubuntu was base on Debian
alexthehaitian 9 months ago