Lamar Alexander to President Obama: Premiums Will Rise Under Democratic Health Bill

[superman1113215]

okay since no one has asked this ill ask it

WHY THE FUCK IS HIS NAME LAMAR

[Nashoba07]

they have gone UP this is a fact

[BastardJack]

Nice that they cut off obama, I hate this network

[aviles1323]

the c.b.o made it clear that rates would go up is obama really that stupid. Lamar Alexander gave him a spanking.

it seems obamas stupidity has no limits

[HeisenbergSleptHere]

@aviles1323

Obonehead not stupid. Just dishonest.

[aviles1323]

@HeisenbergSleptHere

dishonest,stupid,liar, and the list goes on

[TAMARLANE]

Today, the WH warned against going to Drudge. Ostensibly because Drudge is the source of viruses there.

You know what, I think this is the year when violence on the streets actually breaks out.

[Mage13246]

@aviles1323

let me do that list for you:

Stupid, Inexperienced, liar, dishonest, backstabbing, kaniving, racist, Socialist (or Communist), disloyal, ignorant, arrogant, foolish, insane, idiot, moron, sneak, snake, worse than Carter, thief, lunatic, crazy, oblivious, dangerous, not worth counting as a human being. :)

That's right! Obama supports partial birth abortion and was the ONLY Senator to vote on a bill that allowed leaving a newborn child on the table to die (a form of abortion).

[salbella50]

@Mage13246 ..THATS BULLSHIT...THATS WHAT THE WHITE MOTHERFUCKERS IN CONGREES WANT YOU TO THINK...AND YOUR COMMENTS ABOVE THIS ...STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR BITCH ASS MOTHER..REDNECK...

[Mage13246]

@salbella50

Ahahahaha. Thanks for proving that you libs can't even have a semi-civil debate at the very least with anybody. You have no way to back up your argument, and therefore all you can do is call me names and use profanity.

[salbella50]

@Mage13246 ....DEBATE!!!! DEBATE!!!! I DON'T GIVE RESPECT TO RACIST PEOPLE....WE HAVE A RACSIT ASS CONGRESS ON THE RIGHT AND YOU WANT TO DEBATE.....I CALL THEM AS I SEE THEM...THEY AND YOU DON'T NEED TO BE RESPECTED...ARE YOU KIDDING ME....AND I DIDN'T NEED TO BACK UP MY ARGUMENTS.... HERE'S THE LIST OF BULLSHIT.... BIRTHERS...SOCAILISM, HE'S WEAK, LETS DEFUND PRESIDENT'S OBAMA HEALTHCARE...AND YOU WANT TO DEBATE.......

[Vetwolf13]

LA is the insurance lobby's nigger!

[Seekthetruth2010]

Everbody here should check out the Guy by the name of Frank Marhshall Davis he was obamas mentor, that will explain a few things about obamas core beleifs in communism

[NotEasilyRegimented]

Well, that is where you are wrong. It DOES increase premiums.

[yerallmorons]

No, it doesn't. Again, you're a fool.

[NotEasilyRegimented]

You epitomize what my father warned me about as a child. No lying was allowed. And never call anyone a fool until you have walked a mile in his shoes. If I were inclined to call anyone a fool, you would certainly be a candidate.

[yerallmorons]

If you say you grew up with the morals of "no lying", you certainly can't give any evidence as to what you're claiming...thus making me feel you are LYING. Either that, or you are heavily misinformed. I would like to think its the latter of the two because you do seem genuine...albeit naive to what your rightwing media is doing to your thought process, but at least you are genuine.

[NotEasilyRegimented]

You are beyond hopeless dude. Obonehead is a liar. He lies, he has lied, and he will lie. Until you recognize that fact it is pointless for us to debate.

On this particular video, with Obonehead lying, he lies about whether premiums will rise if the democrat"s health care bill is enacted.

[yerallmorons]

Ok, since you're so wise to what he's lying about here at this summit, please, elaborate on what he's lying about. Help me see the light since you seem to have the lowdown.

[NotEasilyRegimented]

If you cannot admit Obonehead is a liar, lies, has lied, and will lie, there is no basis to go forward here is there?

[yerallmorons]

ah, so what you're saying here is you have NOTHING to go on. Gotcha.

[NotEasilyRegimented]

Sorry dude I'm from a generation where lying was THE Cardinal sin. Ever hear of the Honor Code. Our military academies live by the honor code.

No lying. '

No cheating.

No stealing.

No tolerance for anyone who does (lie, cheat or steal).

That is all I have. It is more than nothing.

[yerallmorons]

Nope, thats pretty much not saying a damn thing. You haven't come up with a single shred of evidence (a quote, a sentence, anything) that Obama lied at all in this video. Again, saying someone is a liar and not having anything to indicate said person actually lied only proves you are a troll without a shred of intelligence. Good for you.

[NotEasilyRegimented]

I will repeat it for you once. Obonehead lied when he said this health insurance plan would not increase premiums.

Beyond that, I can't help you.

[yerallmorons]

Have you listened at all to what was being said at this summit other than this 54 second clip????? Even the CBO stated that premiums will go down...by even 20%! Are you mentally ill?

[NotEasilyRegimented]

I actually watched the entire thing on Fox News.I don't get CSPAN 3 so I felt lucky to watch it on Fox (The only network to air it by the way). There are many hidden charges with this bill that the CBO can not score. The whole thing is disingenuous as hell , it is bullshit, and it is a lie. I doubt that you will ever know that, and I am sure if you ever discover truth you would not admit it to me.

All of your profanity is funny though.

[yerallmorons]

I actually get cspan....and how you get fox and not cspan makes me giggle. You talk about hidden charges, yet you have no idea what you're talking about. You cannot come up with any. You really have no idea what you're talking about. The healthcare bill IS going to pass by the way, and there's nothing your little repubby's can do anything about it...except do everything they can to lie about it, like calling reconciliation the nuclear option. So pathetic.

[NotEasilyRegimented]

I get CSPAN, but locally it was on CSPAN3 which I don't get.

You are wrong about so many things. You think I am a Republican? Not. Not since Goldwater. Independent voter here. Supported Perot. Supported Forbes. Supported Bush too. Absolutely detest Kerry and Gore..I voted for Bush because he was what was running against Kerry. I would have voted for a warthog before that poseur Kerry.

[yerallmorons]

I could care less WHO you voted for. What does concern me is your total ignorance, or should I say stupidity (ignorance would indicate that you don't have access to information) in the matter of healthcare. Do you even believe that we need healthcare reform?

[NotEasilyRegimented]

Why would you care what an ignorant person thinks?

We definitely need to fix our health care system. It is rife with corruption and inefficiencies. The Doctors steal from their practices. The nurses, seeing this, steal from the doctors. The hospitals steal from the doctors and the patients. The insurance companies steal from their customers.. The lawyers steal from all of them if they can. The system is broken. Government run heath care would be much worse.

[yerallmorons]

No one is saying your healthcare is going to be run by the government. Again, I didnt call you ignorant, I called you stupid. I care, simply because I care about the integrity and intelligence of this country. What you see on foxnews is nothing but right wing propaganda, and it is embarrassing that you can't admit that. You do realize there already IS government run healthcare out there? But, no one is saying you need to enroll in it. Why is it a problem for you if some wish to do so?

[NotEasilyRegimented]

Already about 1/2 of all health care is provided by government. The VA. Medicare. and Medicaid. All three are running in the red and they give very poor service. I am a vet, go to the 3rd best VA hospital in the country. It sucks. Doctors start at about $100K per year and it is a revolving door for doctors. You think I am a republican and I only watch Fox news. That is your problem. Not mine. You think I am uninformed, when it is YOU who is totally uninformed.

[yerallmorons]

I am not uninformed at all. I've challenged you to answer questions, and you can't come up with a single one. Its simple. I've been to two VA hospitals and well, one of them realllllly sucked. The other was quite nice. Great staff, and it was very orderly. And no, its not half of all healthcare thats run by gov. Its about 27%.

[NotEasilyRegimented]

The CNO scores what it is presented with. Taking what they are told as the truth, and the whole truth. Well, the Doctor Fix isn't part of the CBO score. The double dealing accounting of monies isn't dealt with by the CBO. There are many little things hidden away from the CBO to insure a good review, a deficit neutral , review.

[yerallmorons]

You keep saying there are "many little things hidden away"..but you can't name ONE. So, when you say those things, it makes you look like a fool. You are the one who can't come up with any evidence, proof, or truth to your rantings. I see you as someone with a good heart, and you mean well, but you have this mentality that the government is out to get you, which is sad. If you feel our nations leaders hate you, then why not just leave the country?

[HeisenbergSleptHere]

I named one. You must have missed it. Me leave the country if my government hates me? HAHAHA I have been here much longer than they have. Maybe they should leave the country.

[yerallmorons]

Missed it? Well, this is the first post you left on this board, so yeah, must've missed it, unless you are going by another alias. Even if that were the case, there still isn't a legitimate answer to my question. You fail. How old are you? You'v been here longer than the US government? What a whacko.

[FlaminglyGayCanadian]

Did you think heisenberg said he was older than the US government? I didn't think he said that. I thought he said he was older than the current administration. Do you have nightmares? Are you on medication>? For what? Are you just troll? When did you stop beating your wife. What is wrong with you? Why are you alive? Do you know who your daddy is?

[yerallmorons]

Maybe you need to learn how to read? He didnt mention this current administration at all. He only mentioned "my government". Maybe you need to go back to school.Nightmares? I am on no medication...well, I smoke the herb sometimes. Im not a troll, and never really started beating my wife (maybe I smack her ass in the bedroom sometimes). Cant find much wrong with myself..I wish my arms were a bit bigger. Im alive because I haven't been killed yet. Yes, I know who my father is. Any more questions?

[HeisenbergSleptHere]

@yerallmorons

You wish your arms were bigger? That is funny dude.

[yerallmorons]

LOL, yeah, it just seems that no matter how much I lift and no matter what routine I do, They just don't want to get bigger. They don't match my trunk! Im gonna get arm jobs, put boobs in my arms!

[GreatSatan1]

@yerallmorons

There is the Doctor Fix for one thing. Hidden away.

[mpage47]

Wow, FOX is completely wrong on this. Utterly dispicable and irresponsible news reporting.

[Blairtim69]

Wow!

Fox is truly shameless. They edited the discussion and repeated Alexanders lie as truth.

The rates won't go up. people will find their insurance cheaper, and will likely buy better more expensive insurance.

That is what the CBO said

Can't they at least try to argue honestly?

[yerallmorons]

yet you can't go into ANY detail as to what he was lying about...interesting.

[NotEasilyRegimented]

haha

Just google Obama lies and read it all there. See you in about a month.

[yerallmorons]

Still waiting for proof from you.....tick tock tick tock tick tock.

[HollyTNUSA]

Mr Alexander

I personally called and emailed you about the direction we were going a year ago. As a Republican in your state, you need to understand that we do not need ANY government take over of healthcare! The only hope we have of saving this nation is to have core conservatives stand up and do anything it takes to stop this. Act like Mr Smith goes to Washington and insist on reading the whole bill!

[mpage47]

And keep paying $100 for a Tylenol in a hospital? And get dropped when you have a catastrophic illness?  And keep America #37 in the world in medical care? Are you saying you want Medicare, VA benefits and Medicaid to go away too? I think the elderly and soldiers need those services.

Wake up!

Lamar wants to keep the medical companies contributing to his campaign. He doesn't care about you. This is corporate welfare in disguise.

[TheRenstarmusic]

Republicans absolutely want this president to fail...how would it look if we have one of the most intelligent president in history to bring this country out of the worst economic period. Thanks to the republicans 8 years of no leadership, what is another 4 years to them all they have to do is drag there feet and fight this president on every issue until 2012....and then try to blame him for lack of progress, the oldest trick in the book. BUT WE ARE ON TO YOU Shame on the Republicans.

[gareof]

Stupid "affirmative action" prez - Community Organizer & Chief - obama is so full of himself he can't even put a sentence together if anyone questions him instead of affirming him...funny I haven't seen his "apology" anywhere on the "news" - - - thanks Fox, youtube, Drudge, et al

[Squoshua17]

For a man with a law degree, Obama isn't much for letting the opposition present their case...

[oneofonex1]

kinda funny how lamar put this on youtube as if its some accomplishment, the president made you look dumb. Leave it to a news station to twist facts

[TAMARLANE]

Obonehead lies again. This is not news, it is old news. Everyone already knows what a liar Obama is.

[yerallmorons]

So what's he "lying" about here?

[63litenin1]

Prove it if you "actually' can. Put your brain in gear and set it down in black and white......I'll wait...............lol

[dtaijo174]

God the dems sucked it up. I bet they never try that again.

[63litenin1]

HUH? LOL Bet the pubs won't show up again to be... again...trounced!!

[jimistreets]

...What they elected was a smooth-talking hustler, a novice in governing, that has left this country in a shambles. He has done absolutely NOTHING to work with Republicans, left the heavy lifting to two of the most inept and hateful people ever to serve in Congress, Pelosi and Reid, all while talking "down his nose", literally, to all of us while he plays us for FOOLS! Fools may describe those that support this man, but foolED again will not describe Americans when BO's one term is over...

[jimistreets]

Used to be we had a mainstream media that would dig and find these things out then report them. Not any more. This fraud was elected by and large without his supporters (MSM consumers) knowing NOTHING about this man. The media gave Bush an investigative enema when he ran, even going so far as to invent past "scandals", report them, then never retract them when disproved. Barry then fooled enough sincere people into thinking that he was a post partisan, post racial uniter. (cont'd)

[IslandSpiceDreamin]

@jimistreets Did you see the vid of Biden saying "20th Century"? OMG .... again with the "if it were Bush" orrrr, imagine if it were McCain!!?? Not so much defending them as that i am soooo angry about the criminally complicit media that NEVER vetted this junior "leader" we have ... who is best at swaggering and posturing. Anyway, what did the media do when Joe made his latest blunder? Well, the AP actually COVERED for him ..COVERED FOR HIM! .. & changed the century number in their text!

[KinglyNumbaOne]

Obama is such a liar. I think he is the most flimsily dishonest presidents in American history. Sure, we've had other lying presidents like Clinton and Nixon, but they lied to cover up big scandals. Obama just lies over every little thing for the sole purpose of scoring cheap partisan points. It is really childish and irritating.

[IslandSpiceDreamin]

@KinglyNumbaOne ... it's called pathological (and narcissistic) lying ... and it's much more dangerous and ominous than 'childish or irritating'. It's repulsive and, like i said, dangerous .. for us and for our country. "By any means" ... including, but certainly not limited to, lying. I know what you mean, though :/

[63litenin1]

Yup...PRESIDENT OBAMA...lied us into a war or 2......yup W and Darth never lied...give me a freakin break. And you are childish and obnoxiously irritating. Get your facts strait...

[KinglyNumbaOne]

Typical illiterate liberal. Go to school.

Thanks and goodbye. ;-)

[63litenin1]

What's the matter little feller...want to hit and run? Illiterate liberal? Most would say libs have way too much schooling...LOL Get it right...we are elitists.

But you'll have that with the profound idiots who call libs illiterate. Grow up Numba none....

[KinglyNumbaOne]

I bet you haven't even graduated high school. Run along, buffoon.

[WilliamHCarney]

High school. That's funny. My grandfather, who is 86, never went to high school, and managed to buy his home out right. Owned two successful businesses, held a credit rating above 720, and retired young. My wife neer finished high school, and is very well off. "Imagination is better than knowledge." Albert Einstein. One can educate themselves by just reading to understand, and reading history.

[63litenin1]

Ohhhhhh.. you hurt me to the quick. Buffoon? LOL.. Is that all you have? Your "literacy" is showing....along with your hate....... Your sideways anger at having a black President is obvious.. But do rail on at libs....we can take it.... ;-]

[KinglyNumbaOne]

Get off YouTube and go and get a GED.

[63litenin1]

Oh darn....I've gone and broken my own vow. I normally NEVER argue with someone of lesser intelligence. My mistake.....End of conversation!! ;-]

[KinglyNumbaOne]

@63litenin1

Not only am I more educated then you, but I am also more intelligent than you.

Now run along, buffoon.

[63litenin1]

Limited vocabulary there little guy. How many times did the "weekly reader" suggest you use the word "buffoon"? Gotta love 6th graders who try to post  on utube....LOL

[KinglyNumbaOne]

@63litenin1

It's not because I have a limited vocabulary, it is just because that is the word that is most apt for you. If it isn't broken, why fix it?

And, buffoon, I bet you can't hold a candle to my education. And I am only 20, while you are 64 years old.

[63litenin1]

Ah...let me give you a word of advice...sonny. "If you are gonna run with the pack you can't piss like a pup!" I knew you were very young.. and very rude...Listen kid..you haven't even begun life yet. Slow down enjoy your youth. Life is too short to be so angry. It's been nice sparring with you...sorta....lol

[KinglyNumbaOne]

You can't spar with me because you don't even possess half of my cerebral power.

I am young, but I am manifestly cleverer than you. I guess finding out you are elderly -- and probably senile -- explains why you are so supportive of the Demoncrats and their health care proposal.

[63litenin1]

Cleverer? Maybe it should read more clever....which is not the case..but there you have it. I rest my case and won't again respond...I may forget where I am in five minutes........LOL

[KinglyNumbaOne]

@63litenin1

If you are 64 years old and don't know that "cleverer" is a word in the English language, then there is absolutely no hope for you. Every post I read from you reduces my IQ, so I am done with you.

[Mooja12]

Not only will insurance premiums go up but taxes will go up along with it. Gotta feed the gubbmint machine!

[rwvalentine]

please stop voting for democrats for at least 6 years.

thank you.

[JimC]

Give 'im heck, Lamar!

[Ecosse57]

pow!! right in tha kissa!!!

that's my best street talk. :-(

[jcruenv]

Obama lied?!?!?!?

Shocka!

I guess I won't be getting my pony now....

[ATT363]

Without his teleprompter, he's a bumbling idiot.

[substormguy]

Siberiandreams...Whatcha been smokin'? The report is clear - the CBO reported there would be an increase in premiums and the POTUS now accepts that, even though he is on video denying it! Epic fail for the administration.

[siberiandreams]

I don't understand why Sen. Alexander wants this video on his Youtube account. He was shown to be completely wrong by the President, who also made it a good example of how the Republicans are making apples vs. oranges comparisons in this debate to try to score political points. Alexander is completely wrong, the cost for the SAME policy, the SAME amount of coverage, would decrease, not increase under the Senate plan in 2016. It is as simple as that.

[citizenintime]

Hussein is a lying wuss.

[nlolinder]

@siberiandreams

Did you even watch the entire blinking 52 second video? Or is your attention span not even that long? The CBO DID predict premiums would rise!

[siberiandreams]

No, I actually watched the entire session. So unlike you, I don't just take a 52 second video with the FOX News snap summary, I watched the entire thing. The costs rise by that 10-13% ONLY IF ONES ASSUMES that the same families buy ADDITIONAL coverage. The SAME policy in 2010 would cost less in 2016 for the SAME amount of coverage. Obviously you are dumb enough to fall for the same trick time and time again.

[IslandSpiceDreamin]

@siberian Umm.. i watched all day too..i saw it ...and i knew he was lying ...AGAIN. I've SEEN the figures for myself, so stop being so condescending (i know it's difficult). Since you enjoy using the word "dumb", let's talk about "dumb" ...did u NOT hear the reporter say that obama has now "embraced" those facts? and confirmed that Sen Alexander was RIGHT?? ROFL..obama is a pathological liar .. shake it off & come to grips with THAT fact. I've been watching (& catching him) lie for over 2 yrs

[jimistreets]

@IslandSpiceDreamin Pathological indeed! This jive huckster lies continually and thinks that he is just so much smarter than everyone else in the world that he can get away with it. Its either that, or this guy is just arrogant enough to actually believe that it is true because he says it is. Cool thing is though, collectively the American people have seen right thru this charlatain and he's not fooling anyone anymore. Anyone with a functional capacity for reason anyway.

[IslandSpiceDreamin]

Amen, jimistreets! hey, didn't you HEAR Val Jarrett? He IS so much smarter! Sooo "smart" that it's a "burden". ROFLMAO. That woman is nutso, too .... dear slumlord princess .. ugh

[gs146]

fool

[flurmflam]

Joe Wilson redux. I wonder when Maureen Dowd hears the word "boy" this time.

[HotepofGaul]

Pointing out Obama's mistakes is racist or something.