Today, leaders from the House and Senate are meeting with White House officials behind closed doors to finalize healthcare legislation, but C-SPAN and all of us are shut out.
@gennnica Hahahhaa you have more excuses than carter has peanuts. You just face the fact that this president doesn't want anything made public until it is too late. His agenda is remaking of america, look at who he has around him. A bunch of socialist, marxist, etc... from fan jones to dictator lovers as obama has said he likes the way cuba is and others. You are part of a loosing base and a very small segment of america Why don't you just wake up and feel the love.
@gennnica your funny the repubs are repubs in name only they are not conservative U must be living in a cave 2010 vconservatism is on the rise socialism is on the failure u are a crack smoking lib whore
even if you pigeonhole it that way, conservatives are 6% or less of the population, so even if they grew by 1%, they pose no threat to the success of America.
@gennnica You must be a politician, you love to switch things around. Are you even looking at the polls, but keep lieing to yourself. 65% of americans say they are conservative. Not liberal, socialist, marxist or any of the other social experiments gone wrong. And you have it wrong again of course... its 25% identify as liberal. You are getting funnier everysecond this goes on. You are a very typical lib/socialist. The only thing you can do is lie.
65%? WOW... where are these people? maybe if the poll was taken at a catholic church on sunday morning, but overall, they are around 6% of the voting population.
I'm a moderate... find out what you are here:
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until you post your results, this will be my last email to you.
@gennnica This is based on conservative not repubs. I am a conservative first. Smaller Government. I have screamed at the TV when the repubs where getting into bed with the dems for bigger spending, drug and other big government ideas. These republicans where just as screwed up as the dems are now. Except, they are cowards and won't stand up to anyone. We don't need universal health care. It does need tobe fixed. I program and work with many doctors throughout the us. They aren't maki
@gennnica money like everyone thinks. There is no competition within the industry at all. Thanks again to big government. I find it hard to believe that you are a moderate. You writings suggest for lib/socialist. We need lower tax's across the board, we need smaller government. Calif is a perfect example on why government doing anything just makes things worse. I still don't understand how you can support obama when their are facts out there which shows that he is more of a radical than
Instances where reporters actually attempt to report are quite rare these days, but one popped up at the White House when Robert Gibbs was asked about Obama's broken promise on transparency with the healthcare debate. Obama had promised every negotiation would be on C-SPAN. That hasn't happened. Glenn goes to the weather room for the report on the Scattered Showers of Journalism
Instances where reporters actually attempt to report are quite rare these days, but one popped up at the White House when Robert Gibbs was asked about Obama's broken promise on transparency with the healthcare debate. Obama had promised every negotiation would be on C-SPAN. That hasn't happened. It is also on line, again, obama lied our freedom will die
@gennnica again wrong on another issue, cspan sent letter asking to do it, however, dems locked them out along with the Repubs. Boy are you behind a closed door, or stuck in a closet somewhere
As candidate, President Obama promised us that healthcare negotiations would be covered by C-SPAN "so that the American people can see what the choices are."
So much for promises. As Speaker Pelosi laughingly responded this week when asked about the President's C-SPAN promise: "There are a number of things he was for on the campaign trail."
Today, leaders from the House and Senate are meeting with White House officials behind closed doors to finalize healthcare legislation, but C-SPAN and all of us are shut out.
No, there will be no taxes for the new plan, it actually puts about 44 cents more in your pocket from the savings each year... but since you don't like "facts"... it's funny to watch you make a fool of yourself.
NO, many of the benefits happen in a few months, things like "no denial of coverage", children up to age 26 under their parents plan, the end of stopping care if you get sick and many others happen in 2010!
Why are you SO against a HEALTHY America for a lower cost than we have now?
@gennnica are you kidding me. Even pelosi was against the new bill from the senate because it raised tax's on everyone. Didn'tyou get that memo
And still why isn't this open to the public why isn't cspan able to broadcast the meetings. why because if the truth ever cam out, more americans would be against it.
You last comment is wrong again. When has the government lowered anything? You are on a dream island somewhere.
It is up to each individual to live their life the way they want to.
@gennnica and besides everyone can go to the hospital NOW to get help. They can't be turned away. Unlike the countries which already have government health care. I don't want this nore should u Why do you want to destroy this country and why do you want everything for free. Why don't you have all the proper information about the health care bill senate or house, why it isn't being released to the public yet.
@gennnica It can't be, they haven';t put it together yet. And what is this missing, appears to be alot. It is just what they want you to see. Heck, even the top dem didn't know what was in it.
@macindrew again, you are following people who lie. He swore he'd broadcast the health care hearings on C-SPAN. Now, he's keeping them secret. He ripped McCain's plan to tax insurance plans. Now, he's gonna do it!
Bottom line, this President is spending more money then any president has. This president will take away your personal rights. Making you purchase Health insurance, raise your tax's. The patriot act, why aren't you raising hell, like alot of you did with bush.
You could care less about the lies this president has said and is doing, you will follow him to the corners of the earth no matter what. You will also go down just like him and all the other dems
@tnoyy34rt Hu, you don't have purchase health insurance. As far as tax's go, what you didn't get the memo from good ole nancy, she is upset because the tax's will be raised on loser income. What you didn't see that on MSNBC. Maybe you should look a little deeper and closer.
Obama has spent more than and he is headed the same way a Carter. Failure Fraud and liar.
@gennnica First find one, second 8 times he said that the health care and all dealings will NOT be behind closed doors. so far nana, and you still believe this liar. I feel so sorry for your ignorance
Nonsense, they never sent any letter, don't be absurd, the doors were always open, it's just CSPAN didn't feel it was important enough, so you can't blame Obama, he did his part, CSPAN failed.
@gennnica You must be living in a cave, Hell, even msnbc asked pelosi about the letter and she, in her arogant manner, said that the president just made some political promisses he really shouldn't have. Everyone knows about the letter but you, how sad. Again you should watch more fox, hannity or even oreily. Then you won't be in the dark.
yeah, but if you actually watch the clip, it's clear she was kidding, so don't read too much into it. yes, she's a powerful and smart woman, and she's done a lot for our country so give her a break.
@gennnica Free loaders hmmm good choice of words. However the vote wasn't even close to being that, it was about spending and not listening to the voters. You know we the people. Obama has spent and will continue to spend. We are broke and the Feds has no MONEY. The free loaders, hmmmm, the ones not paying tax's I would say. U
they actually saved money over the old plan. the voters hired Obama to fix healthcare, it was the top priority of his first term. so they listened and formed a pretty good bill, you will like it once it's in place, but for now, you haven't taken the time to understand it.
You are so funny and delusional at the same time. You haven't even seen this bill yet. Actually no one has, people are being paid off to vote for it. A vast majority of the americans do NOT want it. they are ramming something down our throats which will not work, we can't afford and cut medicare by 500 billion. and yet you still believe a liar. go figure, you are so out of step with reality, you really need to see a doctor
@gennnica No again, you distort the facts. 65% where hoping for no corruption, change and to fix health care not destroy it. The current pols show that now, I love it when libs try to show the facts by not showing everything and then trying to rewrite it. Sorry dude you fail again. Again, socialism isn't going to work in this country. It doesn't in any other.
and there was no corruption, so what is your point?
the healthcare bill fixes a lot of things, sure, we didn't get a public option, but that can be added later, the bottom line is we moved our country forward.
who are these "libs" you keep talking about? all political persuasions were for healthcare reform.
not sure why you want America to fail, it just seems odd.
Well, it ends preexisting conditions, that's a fix. It allows parents to keep their kids on their own plan until age 26, so that's a fix. It ends the ability of the healthcare cartel to stop coverage if you get sick, that's a fix.
It vastly lowers the cost of insuring workers by business owners, that's a fix. It focuses healthcare towards preventive instead of "sick care", so that's a fix. There are about 8 more, but you get the idea.
@gennnica Healthy society, what? So you want the governent to tell you what to eat, how to live? are you insane. There are NO fix's in this bill, why the bill hasn't really been created yet and no one has seen it except for a very few reid is one. You are going by what msnbc is telling you which isn't even close. Why know do you trust your LIFE with the government, when on all accounts obama lies. You are living in a fantasy world and why should everyone else pay for your health care.
Where is there a single example of our Gov "telling" you want to eat / live... you are a sad human, you HATE PROSPERITY.
Yes, we need to add the public option, that's one way to cover more people for less money, we need to allow canadian drugs to be imported, certainly you agree with that!
I've never even seen msnbc, so you clearly are a liar.
Where has "anyone" trusted their life to Gov except for defense? see, you can't name a single time. The insuree pays for healthcare NOT the Gov! Geesh!
@gennnica when is it my responsibility or anyone else to pay for something you are responsible for. Quite living off the government get a job and get an education, then maybe you can move up from mcdonalds.
@gennnica Government controlled health care (how do you think they are going to lower the cost) You want health care for everyone, supposedly everyone making less than 250 k will be taxed (which is a lie) so, how am I and others not paying for anyone else. What are confused. Your last part not even going to anser, you know it is just bs question. Why do you want this country to be like europe with 12% uneployment. Why do you want death panels or the government telling you /
@gennnica doctor if you can have that procedure or not. Medicare denies more than the private insurance. I don't want socialism it will destroy this county. Why do you want it, why do you want bigger government and more spending. Why do yuou trust a liar so much (obama is ratical socialist) He wants to spend everyone elses money, why doesn't he start with his own first.
the same with private insurance, so what is your point? if you want a slightly less chance private insurance won't cover you, then pay the private price, nothing changes there.
where has ANYONE suggested socialism for healthcare? NOBODY has... so you are being insane.
no gov expansion, no increase in gov spending with the new plan, so why are you complaining?
@gennnica What part of it won't fix squat, what government ran anything actually works???? Besides, you can NOT force anyone to purchase this health care. The entire thing is unconstitutional. There is gov exapansion there is gov spending there is more taxs. Heck, china is even asking why, how can you afford this. Obama said, he wants government controlled health care, how long after this nightmare, which won't start for another 3 - 4 yrs, will it be before the government takes it complete
@gennnica penalty, funny it is a mandate by the socialist on what we must do. This is a take over of 1 6th the economy. This is socialism and that is what they want. They Obama and the bunch have said all along. It is also unconstitutional as well. This will never see the light of day So take your socialist attitude and your communist loving friends and move out of the Great Country. Move to cuba, they may actually like your kind. And you still won't answer. Obama is hiding behind
@gennnica Again, the private insurance and your thought process is totally bogus. He wants universal health care, along with many dems who have said so. This is a con job, This president has lied throughout his career and you keep fallig for it. All you have to do is listen to what he says when he thinks no one is recording. But thats ok, 2010, will be the end of dems and dems can thank obama, he is destroyig within. The polls show. 65% do NOT want this health care.
sure, EVERYONE wants universal care, that's a no brainer! and we all want it to be 100% handled by the private sector... so why are you against people being healthy and productive, you don't make any sense.
where has Obama ever lied? bet you can't name a single time, you're just a hate filled fringe element, so your opinion means nothing.
2010 is looking great for the Dems, the number of Republicans giving up is HUGE, then you throw in the tea party and you have 90% wins for the Dems in 2010.
@gennnica This is an oxi moron, 2010, what news agency are you watching.. The dems are quiting in droves. conservatives will when in 2010 and the socialist will be out
@gennnica You are so funny, thats ok, just keep thinking that. The repubs quiting are the ones which are libs, their day is also numbered. True Conservatives will when in 2010 and all the want to be will be out. Smaller government lower tax's. is the way to go. Remove allot of the regs which are hurting the private sector.
It is so simple unless you want a larger government and more spending. when will it stop. I know 2010
rasmusen is just one poll, you have to use all polls on average to get an accurate number. the final and "official" poll was 60% for, 40% against, so America won!
@gennnica You still don't get it, reform yes not a complete take over by the government. What about allowing insurances across state lines, tort reform and the list goes on. NOT government controlled. Boy you still don't get it.
what haven't i got? i study this, and have been accurate every time.
there is ZERO government takeover, none! it's just a better way for more people to be insured by the private sector for lower cost... why are you not understanding that?
yes, i'm all for interstate health commerce, but several things have to change first before it makes sense. currently if we allow it, the insurance cartel would cherry pick, leaving most out of coverage. tort reform won't save much, so that's not a solution.
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More from the intellectually vapid. After years of serving bank and corporate interests (as this org does) getting rid of regulations and rules to safeguard the system the same thieves bring the system to self destructing.
So after following right-wing ideology leading to teh edge of total ruin these clowns say do nothing!? Doing nothing would have dominoed into a far worse crash you buffoons. Listening to the advice of this corporate front group is insane. Wake up!!
FOX News is nothing but lies to try and entice poor people to buy soap and beer. Australians shouldn't be trying to brainwash Americans... it's one twisted channel, that's for sure.
You really don't have a clue, this country is being taken over by abunch of marxist,socialist and you dont' want to see the truth. Or you agree and are a closeted socialist
That's strange, no marxists or socialist are in power, so how could they take over? I think you don't keep up with politics. There hasn't been a socialist in congress for decades, so you are clearly incorrect.
Are you kidding me, what about van jones, thats right he left, however, he still has the presidents year. You are such a dumb ass...... Shouldn't you check your facts out before you open that pie hole
You are so stupid, he was just one out of many inthe white house. You don't care, however, if no one cared then why did he leave in the middle of the night. Nice try, but again you fail. Racist, wow, that is a good one. How am I a racist, please let your liberal anger spout through your anger filled heart. cold heart. wow, you libs sure have the same things to say. I am amazed that you can actually get off of your sofa without help from big government. Keep doing coke then maybe your
world will keep spinning around you. The lies just don't stop, but thats ok, this president will be stopped, palosi, reid and all the other crooks. Socialist, marxist and so on will be stopped. You are a minority and the majority will regain this country from nuts like you.
By the way, if you really want to see the truth I dare you to at least watch Glenn Beck if you dare. Or you are a socialist, marxist? In that case, you will fail
You don't know what moderate is. Beck Idoubt you have ever watched him. You can't argue with the facts he presents and you can't dismiss him as well. but thats ok just keep believing in your mesia and one day your world will come crumbling down
i watched him on cnn, before he went insane on fox...
he is just there to stir up the uneducated, he rarely says anything accurate, just hate filled racism to get ratings so he can sell more soap and gold.
@tnoyy34rt So basically you haven't watched him and have no clue. Go ahead stick to your lies and keep calling people names. Thats all you people know how todo. You don't have a common sense bone anywhere in your body. I said to show where he has lied what he has said is wrong. You can't because when he shows something, he backs it up with fact. Thats ok, you keep calling people names and yet, dems are quitting left and right. The left is failing again
No, I said I watched him on CNN, he was there longer than Fox... but when he started going insane by talking about an Apocalypse, Rapture, etc... that's when everyone agreed he was crazy, and was pushed down to Fox to be used as a clown.
Here is a nice list of his lies, enjoy...
politifact. com /truth-o-meter/personalities/glenn-beck/
so it's clear he can't get anything right... he's only there for people that have no education.
@tnoyy34rt sorry I already looked at the list, and each one have been prove wrong on so many levels. The problems with libs is they think that what they believe is gospel. However, I rely on facts to come to conclusions. I had to do the while in the military or my men would surely suffer. And this has followed me in life as well. I always verify, the left leaning politifact is nothing more than a left wing media matters (to know one) group. Sorry, but try some real facts
no, that's the official list so it's as accurate as you can be.
wrong! i'm not a lib! i'm a moderate, and even most conservatives completely laugh at Beck, he's not "believable"... surely you agree with that.
people in the mainstream only use FACTS, there is never room to question educated people, that's why Beck has been seen as such a clown. he NEVER checks facts.
ah, politifact is non-political, so you forgot to check facts!
you're just bitter since EVERYONE is against your absurd views.
@tnoyy34rt People in the main stream, don't make me laugh. They support obama without ever asking any questions like they did with bush. You are not moderate you are lib and most americans agree with beck. He is gaining ratings by leaps and bounds. Wake up to your liberal roots and open your eyes. Facts, beck always check facts. Politifact is political, just like msnbc and the others. They are far left leaning lieing creatons
hogwash, people question Obama just as much as Bush, it's just Obama tends to make highly informed decisions, so there isn't as much to discuss.
no, i'm very much a moderate, i see all sides, that's why i can tell you live on the hate filled fringe, not a fact checker like me.
the only thing Beck got right was the birth certificate farce, and no, politifact is non-partisan, if you disagree, that just means you're out of touch with the reality.
@tnoyy34rt What fantasy world are you living in. Thats ok just keep the dream. This nightmare and the lies will end in 2010. You don't see all sides you are just trying to make your idiology feel good, knowing you are going to be on the wrong side of history again
God I never thought I'd say this, but Fox News is necessary now. Attention must be brought to the federal government's rationing of our children's futures by literally bankrupting them.
There is so much pork in the bill that it's dripping bar-bee-cue sauce!
It's funny how much Dems bring up the war in Iraq I guess they wanted us to go to Afganistan and get Bin Laden. Because one: The Russians had such GREAT SUCCESS there right?? and two: That Bin Laden was so easy to get. So if that's true why didnt Pres. Clinton get him in the 90's??? Just asking... The American people should not be allowed to waste money. THAT'S CONGRESS'S JOB!!!!
Three traitorous Republican senators broke ranks to back Obama, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Majority Leader Harry Reid, and the Democrats. . Traitor . Double agent . Deserter . Turncoat . Collaborator . Conspirator . Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine.
Of course we knew there were weak and vulnerable Senators' in congress. Now we know who some of them are. And their State residence need to take action against their term.
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and again obama lies
Today, leaders from the House and Senate are meeting with White House officials behind closed doors to finalize healthcare legislation, but C-SPAN and all of us are shut out.
daveh69 2 years ago
poor baby, CSPAN didn't have the budget to cover a meeting, so you end up blaming Obama for CSPAN's disinterest.
How typical, you never check facts...
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica Hahahhaa you have more excuses than carter has peanuts. You just face the fact that this president doesn't want anything made public until it is too late. His agenda is remaking of america, look at who he has around him. A bunch of socialist, marxist, etc... from fan jones to dictator lovers as obama has said he likes the way cuba is and others. You are part of a loosing base and a very small segment of america Why don't you just wake up and feel the love.
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica Conservatism is on the rise and dodd and others can feel it
daveh69 2 years ago
what? dodd retired dumbass... and more republicans are leaving then dems, so conservatism is shrinking, not rising.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica your funny the repubs are repubs in name only they are not conservative U must be living in a cave 2010 vconservatism is on the rise socialism is on the failure u are a crack smoking lib whore
daveh69 2 years ago
even if you pigeonhole it that way, conservatives are 6% or less of the population, so even if they grew by 1%, they pose no threat to the success of America.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica You must be a politician, you love to switch things around. Are you even looking at the polls, but keep lieing to yourself. 65% of americans say they are conservative. Not liberal, socialist, marxist or any of the other social experiments gone wrong. And you have it wrong again of course... its 25% identify as liberal. You are getting funnier everysecond this goes on. You are a very typical lib/socialist. The only thing you can do is lie.
daveh69 2 years ago
65%? WOW... where are these people? maybe if the poll was taken at a catholic church on sunday morning, but overall, they are around 6% of the voting population.
I'm a moderate... find out what you are here:
okcupid. com /politics
i end up being a centrist / with a slight libertarian bent :)
until you post your results, this will be my last email to you.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica This is based on conservative not repubs. I am a conservative first. Smaller Government. I have screamed at the TV when the repubs where getting into bed with the dems for bigger spending, drug and other big government ideas. These republicans where just as screwed up as the dems are now. Except, they are cowards and won't stand up to anyone. We don't need universal health care. It does need tobe fixed. I program and work with many doctors throughout the us. They aren't maki
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica money like everyone thinks. There is no competition within the industry at all. Thanks again to big government. I find it hard to believe that you are a moderate. You writings suggest for lib/socialist. We need lower tax's across the board, we need smaller government. Calif is a perfect example on why government doing anything just makes things worse. I still don't understand how you can support obama when their are facts out there which shows that he is more of a radical than
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica anything else. Plus a liar
daveh69 2 years ago
again your liar in chief
Instances where reporters actually attempt to report are quite rare these days, but one popped up at the White House when Robert Gibbs was asked about Obama's broken promise on transparency with the healthcare debate. Obama had promised every negotiation would be on C-SPAN. That hasn't happened. Glenn goes to the weather room for the report on the Scattered Showers of Journalism
daveh69 2 years ago
but Obama never lied about healthcare transparency, he was fully open, CSPAN was not, so you can't blame Obama for that.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica Here read this again.....
Instances where reporters actually attempt to report are quite rare these days, but one popped up at the White House when Robert Gibbs was asked about Obama's broken promise on transparency with the healthcare debate. Obama had promised every negotiation would be on C-SPAN. That hasn't happened. It is also on line, again, obama lied our freedom will die
daveh69 2 years ago
but that was 100% up to CSPAN, Obama, nor anyone ever blocked them.
So Obama never lied, CSPAN simply failed.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica again wrong on another issue, cspan sent letter asking to do it, however, dems locked them out along with the Repubs. Boy are you behind a closed door, or stuck in a closet somewhere
daveh69 2 years ago
where is this letter? I bet you can't produce it...
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica and again
David,
As candidate, President Obama promised us that healthcare negotiations would be covered by C-SPAN "so that the American people can see what the choices are."
So much for promises. As Speaker Pelosi laughingly responded this week when asked about the President's C-SPAN promise: "There are a number of things he was for on the campaign trail."
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica and 2
Today, leaders from the House and Senate are meeting with White House officials behind closed doors to finalize healthcare legislation, but C-SPAN and all of us are shut out.
daveh69 2 years ago
You will be taxed first 3yrs then you won't see the benefit until 2012 or 13. so how is it a good thing?
daveh69 2 years ago
No, there will be no taxes for the new plan, it actually puts about 44 cents more in your pocket from the savings each year... but since you don't like "facts"... it's funny to watch you make a fool of yourself.
NO, many of the benefits happen in a few months, things like "no denial of coverage", children up to age 26 under their parents plan, the end of stopping care if you get sick and many others happen in 2010!
Why are you SO against a HEALTHY America for a lower cost than we have now?
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica are you kidding me. Even pelosi was against the new bill from the senate because it raised tax's on everyone. Didn'tyou get that memo
And still why isn't this open to the public why isn't cspan able to broadcast the meetings. why because if the truth ever cam out, more americans would be against it.
You last comment is wrong again. When has the government lowered anything? You are on a dream island somewhere.
It is up to each individual to live their life the way they want to.
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica and besides everyone can go to the hospital NOW to get help. They can't be turned away. Unlike the countries which already have government health care. I don't want this nore should u Why do you want to destroy this country and why do you want everything for free. Why don't you have all the proper information about the health care bill senate or house, why it isn't being released to the public yet.
daveh69 2 years ago
YES! but it's hugely expensive! And you & I end up PAYING for it, since most are UNINSURED!
Don't you even understand one of the most fundamental problems the new healthcare plan fixes?
The new healthcare plan makes the PATIENT pay for it... no more free loaders on the system... Why do you want to pay more?
The healthcare bill is right here in plain sight, go to:
opencongress . org
don't you understand how to work a URL?
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica It can't be, they haven';t put it together yet. And what is this missing, appears to be alot. It is just what they want you to see. Heck, even the top dem didn't know what was in it.
daveh69 2 years ago
Gennica is right, there won't be any tax increase under the new plan. It's fully paid by the people that join it.
So if you stay with one of those expense private plans, you will see no differnce, it's jsut you'll pay more since they aren't competitive.
macindrew 2 years ago
@macindrew again, you are following people who lie. He swore he'd broadcast the health care hearings on C-SPAN. Now, he's keeping them secret. He ripped McCain's plan to tax insurance plans. Now, he's gonna do it!
daveh69 2 years ago
Bottom line, this President is spending more money then any president has. This president will take away your personal rights. Making you purchase Health insurance, raise your tax's. The patriot act, why aren't you raising hell, like alot of you did with bush.
You could care less about the lies this president has said and is doing, you will follow him to the corners of the earth no matter what. You will also go down just like him and all the other dems
daveh69 2 years ago
not true, he hasn't spent much so far, certainly not as much as Bush did, Obama is a fiscal conservative don't forget.
and no, there is no plans to take away any freedoms, that's total BS. you have to purchase health insurance anyway, so what's the problem?
no taxes will be raised on anyone making under $250k, so quit lying.
if you're not a terrorist, the patriot act doesn't concern you.
he hasn't lied yet, and it's doubtful he will since he has a such a high moral standard.
tnoyy34rt 2 years ago
@tnoyy34rt Hu, you don't have purchase health insurance. As far as tax's go, what you didn't get the memo from good ole nancy, she is upset because the tax's will be raised on loser income. What you didn't see that on MSNBC. Maybe you should look a little deeper and closer.
Obama has spent more than and he is headed the same way a Carter. Failure Fraud and liar.
daveh69 2 years ago
you do now! the american people rose up and decided to end all the freeloaders on our system.
no taxes will be raised, that's a promise.
nah, Obama hasn't spent much and so far, Obama is the best president we've had in our lifetimes.
you just don't like intelligent people.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica First find one, second 8 times he said that the health care and all dealings will NOT be behind closed doors. so far nana, and you still believe this liar. I feel so sorry for your ignorance
daveh69 2 years ago
that was up to CSPAN, not Obama
gennnica 2 years ago
Hu, CSPAN has asked obama to allow, he refuses, where on earth are you getting your information??? Pixie dust,no thats right obama media.. figures
daveh69 2 years ago
no, Obama has specifically said "it's up to them"... so obviously you are wrong.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica Are you kidding, They sent him a letter wanting to do it, but they will not open the doors. Man you are so dense
daveh69 2 years ago
Nonsense, they never sent any letter, don't be absurd, the doors were always open, it's just CSPAN didn't feel it was important enough, so you can't blame Obama, he did his part, CSPAN failed.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica You must be living in a cave, Hell, even msnbc asked pelosi about the letter and she, in her arogant manner, said that the president just made some political promisses he really shouldn't have. Everyone knows about the letter but you, how sad. Again you should watch more fox, hannity or even oreily. Then you won't be in the dark.
daveh69 2 years ago
yeah, but if you actually watch the clip, it's clear she was kidding, so don't read too much into it. yes, she's a powerful and smart woman, and she's done a lot for our country so give her a break.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica Free loaders hmmm good choice of words. However the vote wasn't even close to being that, it was about spending and not listening to the voters. You know we the people. Obama has spent and will continue to spend. We are broke and the Feds has no MONEY. The free loaders, hmmmm, the ones not paying tax's I would say. U
daveh69 2 years ago
they actually saved money over the old plan. the voters hired Obama to fix healthcare, it was the top priority of his first term. so they listened and formed a pretty good bill, you will like it once it's in place, but for now, you haven't taken the time to understand it.
gennnica 2 years ago
You are so funny and delusional at the same time. You haven't even seen this bill yet. Actually no one has, people are being paid off to vote for it. A vast majority of the americans do NOT want it. they are ramming something down our throats which will not work, we can't afford and cut medicare by 500 billion. and yet you still believe a liar. go figure, you are so out of step with reality, you really need to see a doctor
daveh69 2 years ago
sure I have, it's always online at:
opencongress . org
ha ha, you don't check facts.
around 65% on average (throughout the process) wanted it. it's the primary reason Obama was elected, so yes, the majority wanted it.
it took 65 years to pass, so it certainly wasn't rammed down anyone's throat.
we aren't cutting that much, plus if you want private insurance, you can have it, so why are you complainning?
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica No again, you distort the facts. 65% where hoping for no corruption, change and to fix health care not destroy it. The current pols show that now, I love it when libs try to show the facts by not showing everything and then trying to rewrite it. Sorry dude you fail again. Again, socialism isn't going to work in this country. It doesn't in any other.
daveh69 2 years ago
and there was no corruption, so what is your point?
the healthcare bill fixes a lot of things, sure, we didn't get a public option, but that can be added later, the bottom line is we moved our country forward.
who are these "libs" you keep talking about? all political persuasions were for healthcare reform.
not sure why you want America to fail, it just seems odd.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica Health care fixs nothing, again more insance comments from someone who has NO CLUE!
daveh69 2 years ago
Well, it ends preexisting conditions, that's a fix. It allows parents to keep their kids on their own plan until age 26, so that's a fix. It ends the ability of the healthcare cartel to stop coverage if you get sick, that's a fix.
It vastly lowers the cost of insuring workers by business owners, that's a fix. It focuses healthcare towards preventive instead of "sick care", so that's a fix. There are about 8 more, but you get the idea.
Why are you SO against a healthy society?
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica America to fail, it is with this president. We need to get this country back on track and get rid of intrusive government.
daveh69 2 years ago
Where has Gov intruded? We now have more freedom in healthcare, so why are you SO against MORE freedom?
Are you poorly educated or something?
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica Healthy society, what? So you want the governent to tell you what to eat, how to live? are you insane. There are NO fix's in this bill, why the bill hasn't really been created yet and no one has seen it except for a very few reid is one. You are going by what msnbc is telling you which isn't even close. Why know do you trust your LIFE with the government, when on all accounts obama lies. You are living in a fantasy world and why should everyone else pay for your health care.
daveh69 2 years ago
Where is there a single example of our Gov "telling" you want to eat / live... you are a sad human, you HATE PROSPERITY.
Yes, we need to add the public option, that's one way to cover more people for less money, we need to allow canadian drugs to be imported, certainly you agree with that!
I've never even seen msnbc, so you clearly are a liar.
Where has "anyone" trusted their life to Gov except for defense? see, you can't name a single time. The insuree pays for healthcare NOT the Gov! Geesh!
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica The bigger cities and trans fat? and the list goes on
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica when is it my responsibility or anyone else to pay for something you are responsible for. Quite living off the government get a job and get an education, then maybe you can move up from mcdonalds.
daveh69 2 years ago
Where is there an example where you'd have to PAY for someone else? That's never been true and you KNOW IT!
is that where you got TOTALLY confused???????
Nobody but the "insured" pay for healthcare, no taxes are increased, you pay for YOUR healthcare... just like always.
You are so focused on bringing down our country it isn't even laughable.
WHY do you hate America? You still haven't explained WHY!
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica Government controlled health care (how do you think they are going to lower the cost) You want health care for everyone, supposedly everyone making less than 250 k will be taxed (which is a lie) so, how am I and others not paying for anyone else. What are confused. Your last part not even going to anser, you know it is just bs question. Why do you want this country to be like europe with 12% uneployment. Why do you want death panels or the government telling you /
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica doctor if you can have that procedure or not. Medicare denies more than the private insurance. I don't want socialism it will destroy this county. Why do you want it, why do you want bigger government and more spending. Why do yuou trust a liar so much (obama is ratical socialist) He wants to spend everyone elses money, why doesn't he start with his own first.
Why do you hate this country so much
daveh69 2 years ago
the same with private insurance, so what is your point? if you want a slightly less chance private insurance won't cover you, then pay the private price, nothing changes there.
where has ANYONE suggested socialism for healthcare? NOBODY has... so you are being insane.
no gov expansion, no increase in gov spending with the new plan, so why are you complaining?
you're just uninformed.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica What part of it won't fix squat, what government ran anything actually works???? Besides, you can NOT force anyone to purchase this health care. The entire thing is unconstitutional. There is gov exapansion there is gov spending there is more taxs. Heck, china is even asking why, how can you afford this. Obama said, he wants government controlled health care, how long after this nightmare, which won't start for another 3 - 4 yrs, will it be before the government takes it complete
daveh69 2 years ago
You can always pay the 2% penalty based on income, so nobody is "forcing" you to be healthy.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica penalty, funny it is a mandate by the socialist on what we must do. This is a take over of 1 6th the economy. This is socialism and that is what they want. They Obama and the bunch have said all along. It is also unconstitutional as well. This will never see the light of day So take your socialist attitude and your communist loving friends and move out of the Great Country. Move to cuba, they may actually like your kind. And you still won't answer. Obama is hiding behind
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica Closed doors why. I have proved enough proof to choke any liberal
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica Over because of little minded people like you.
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica That is what you said about bush, hmmm, that is my question.
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica Again, the private insurance and your thought process is totally bogus. He wants universal health care, along with many dems who have said so. This is a con job, This president has lied throughout his career and you keep fallig for it. All you have to do is listen to what he says when he thinks no one is recording. But thats ok, 2010, will be the end of dems and dems can thank obama, he is destroyig within. The polls show. 65% do NOT want this health care.
daveh69 2 years ago
sure, EVERYONE wants universal care, that's a no brainer! and we all want it to be 100% handled by the private sector... so why are you against people being healthy and productive, you don't make any sense.
where has Obama ever lied? bet you can't name a single time, you're just a hate filled fringe element, so your opinion means nothing.
2010 is looking great for the Dems, the number of Republicans giving up is HUGE, then you throw in the tea party and you have 90% wins for the Dems in 2010.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica This is an oxi moron, 2010, what news agency are you watching.. The dems are quiting in droves. conservatives will when in 2010 and the socialist will be out
daveh69 2 years ago
we all agree you don't like america, but why are you still fighting to tear our country down? it's over... the american people WON on healthcare.
actually, more Republicans are quitting than Democrats, (look at the facts) so it shows a huge win for Dems in 2010.
Americans are moving away from Republicans don't forget!
We don't have any Socialists in our government, do we? There are a few Independents but no Socialists.
So why are you so AGAINST checking facts?
I easily burn you every time!
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica You are so funny, thats ok, just keep thinking that. The repubs quiting are the ones which are libs, their day is also numbered. True Conservatives will when in 2010 and all the want to be will be out. Smaller government lower tax's. is the way to go. Remove allot of the regs which are hurting the private sector.
It is so simple unless you want a larger government and more spending. when will it stop. I know 2010
daveh69 2 years ago
@gennnica What is so hard about that. The polls are out there, rasmusen?
daveh69 2 years ago
rasmusen is just one poll, you have to use all polls on average to get an accurate number. the final and "official" poll was 60% for, 40% against, so America won!
get over it already...
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica You still don't get it, reform yes not a complete take over by the government. What about allowing insurances across state lines, tort reform and the list goes on. NOT government controlled. Boy you still don't get it.
daveh69 2 years ago
what haven't i got? i study this, and have been accurate every time.
there is ZERO government takeover, none! it's just a better way for more people to be insured by the private sector for lower cost... why are you not understanding that?
yes, i'm all for interstate health commerce, but several things have to change first before it makes sense. currently if we allow it, the insurance cartel would cherry pick, leaving most out of coverage. tort reform won't save much, so that's not a solution.
gennnica 2 years ago
@gennnica Its is government take over, that is what this is all about. Even obama has said that. Your not paying to much attention are u
daveh69 2 years ago
Tell Congress you don't want to Have Healthcare
You Morons Are Creating Smokescreens of Communism that O'l Nixon Used Back In My Day.And A Few Days Later The Classic "i Am Not A Crook"
zeldazackman 2 years ago
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JaysXKE 2 years ago
More from the intellectually vapid. After years of serving bank and corporate interests (as this org does) getting rid of regulations and rules to safeguard the system the same thieves bring the system to self destructing.
So after following right-wing ideology leading to teh edge of total ruin these clowns say do nothing!? Doing nothing would have dominoed into a far worse crash you buffoons. Listening to the advice of this corporate front group is insane. Wake up!!
Navywxman 2 years ago
FOX News is nothing but lies to try and entice poor people to buy soap and beer. Australians shouldn't be trying to brainwash Americans... it's one twisted channel, that's for sure.
gennnica 2 years ago
You really don't have a clue, this country is being taken over by abunch of marxist,socialist and you dont' want to see the truth. Or you agree and are a closeted socialist
daveh69 2 years ago
That's strange, no marxists or socialist are in power, so how could they take over? I think you don't keep up with politics. There hasn't been a socialist in congress for decades, so you are clearly incorrect.
IDIOT!
tnoyy34rt 2 years ago
Are you kidding me, what about van jones, thats right he left, however, he still has the presidents year. You are such a dumb ass...... Shouldn't you check your facts out before you open that pie hole
daveh69 2 years ago
van jones? nobody cares...
you are just a hate filled racist...
tnoyy34rt 2 years ago
You are so stupid, he was just one out of many inthe white house. You don't care, however, if no one cared then why did he leave in the middle of the night. Nice try, but again you fail. Racist, wow, that is a good one. How am I a racist, please let your liberal anger spout through your anger filled heart. cold heart. wow, you libs sure have the same things to say. I am amazed that you can actually get off of your sofa without help from big government. Keep doing coke then maybe your
daveh69 2 years ago
world will keep spinning around you. The lies just don't stop, but thats ok, this president will be stopped, palosi, reid and all the other crooks. Socialist, marxist and so on will be stopped. You are a minority and the majority will regain this country from nuts like you.
daveh69 2 years ago
By the way, if you really want to see the truth I dare you to at least watch Glenn Beck if you dare. Or you are a socialist, marxist? In that case, you will fail
daveh69 2 years ago
i've watched Beck for years, and he's increasingly just an ignorant clown. The guy is clearly uninformed.
I'm a moderate like Obama.
tnoyy34rt 2 years ago
You don't know what moderate is. Beck Idoubt you have ever watched him. You can't argue with the facts he presents and you can't dismiss him as well. but thats ok just keep believing in your mesia and one day your world will come crumbling down
daveh69 2 years ago
i watched him on cnn, before he went insane on fox...
he is just there to stir up the uneducated, he rarely says anything accurate, just hate filled racism to get ratings so he can sell more soap and gold.
he's a sick cookie.
tnoyy34rt 2 years ago
@tnoyy34rt So basically you haven't watched him and have no clue. Go ahead stick to your lies and keep calling people names. Thats all you people know how todo. You don't have a common sense bone anywhere in your body. I said to show where he has lied what he has said is wrong. You can't because when he shows something, he backs it up with fact. Thats ok, you keep calling people names and yet, dems are quitting left and right. The left is failing again
daveh69 2 years ago
No, I said I watched him on CNN, he was there longer than Fox... but when he started going insane by talking about an Apocalypse, Rapture, etc... that's when everyone agreed he was crazy, and was pushed down to Fox to be used as a clown.
Here is a nice list of his lies, enjoy...
politifact. com /truth-o-meter/personalities/glenn-beck/
so it's clear he can't get anything right... he's only there for people that have no education.
tnoyy34rt 2 years ago
@tnoyy34rt sorry I already looked at the list, and each one have been prove wrong on so many levels. The problems with libs is they think that what they believe is gospel. However, I rely on facts to come to conclusions. I had to do the while in the military or my men would surely suffer. And this has followed me in life as well. I always verify, the left leaning politifact is nothing more than a left wing media matters (to know one) group. Sorry, but try some real facts
daveh69 2 years ago
no, that's the official list so it's as accurate as you can be.
wrong! i'm not a lib! i'm a moderate, and even most conservatives completely laugh at Beck, he's not "believable"... surely you agree with that.
people in the mainstream only use FACTS, there is never room to question educated people, that's why Beck has been seen as such a clown. he NEVER checks facts.
ah, politifact is non-political, so you forgot to check facts!
you're just bitter since EVERYONE is against your absurd views.
tnoyy34rt 2 years ago
@tnoyy34rt People in the main stream, don't make me laugh. They support obama without ever asking any questions like they did with bush. You are not moderate you are lib and most americans agree with beck. He is gaining ratings by leaps and bounds. Wake up to your liberal roots and open your eyes. Facts, beck always check facts. Politifact is political, just like msnbc and the others. They are far left leaning lieing creatons
daveh69 2 years ago
hogwash, people question Obama just as much as Bush, it's just Obama tends to make highly informed decisions, so there isn't as much to discuss.
no, i'm very much a moderate, i see all sides, that's why i can tell you live on the hate filled fringe, not a fact checker like me.
the only thing Beck got right was the birth certificate farce, and no, politifact is non-partisan, if you disagree, that just means you're out of touch with the reality.
check it out...
politifact . com
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tnoyy34rt 2 years ago
@tnoyy34rt What fantasy world are you living in. Thats ok just keep the dream. This nightmare and the lies will end in 2010. You don't see all sides you are just trying to make your idiology feel good, knowing you are going to be on the wrong side of history again
daveh69 2 years ago
God I never thought I'd say this, but Fox News is necessary now. Attention must be brought to the federal government's rationing of our children's futures by literally bankrupting them.
This is generational theft, clean and simple.
FreedomLiberty21 2 years ago
Yes they have come a long way in bring us a fair, balanced, and unbiased opinions *if there is such a thing) than other TV stations.
You certainly cannot get this kind of information from NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN,and other station like them.
CruiserCT1 2 years ago
There is so much pork in the bill that it's dripping bar-bee-cue sauce!
It's funny how much Dems bring up the war in Iraq I guess they wanted us to go to Afganistan and get Bin Laden. Because one: The Russians had such GREAT SUCCESS there right?? and two: That Bin Laden was so easy to get. So if that's true why didnt Pres. Clinton get him in the 90's??? Just asking... The American people should not be allowed to waste money. THAT'S CONGRESS'S JOB!!!!
dare2act 2 years ago
So just because Bid Laden is hard to get we should start a war with a country for no reason? That makes sense to you? Seriously?? Really???
fiercejarret 2 years ago
at least we tried :( there was over 400,000 signatures!that just goes to show that some americans still care about their country
swera12 3 years ago
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RampageExtrene1 3 years ago
Of course we knew there were weak and vulnerable Senators' in congress. Now we know who some of them are. And their State residence need to take action against their term.
CruiserCT1 2 years ago 2
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JaysXKE 2 years ago
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