its good. one of my favs from Sin & Sacrifice, tho honestly all theyre stuff was good, its his Solo Career post-Gitane that has been hit & miss, but mostly hit. and im a diehard Rozz supporter, but Valor's got masterpieces of his own.
Its ALL GOOD!!!! - this whole Valor / Rozz Crap is so stupid...both geniuses in their own right. Alot of those Batcavers, Deathrockers , and Goths of the 70+s and 80's all bleached their hairs blonde and wore fringe after they figured out that the CULT were not deathrock....stupid...anyway, its really about the words. So enjoy it, and wear black, purple, red, and have vampire teeth if you want. But if you want to be real , and gothtastic...read a Mary Shelley book, or look up icahbod cane!
So Valor is some kind of biblical prophet condemning the hedonistic society he suddenly finds himself surrounded by? That's a pretty hard sell, although he does display great "valor" in fighting off those bespectacled dorks who shamelessly try to fondle Gitane's boobies. Nice going there sir!
And, hey, is that Maitri who interrupts Valor's solo at 2:54 for what I can only assume is a longing for his (un)holy cock???
I tell you, this video is riddled with symbolism. Scholars take note...
Although Rozz was a very talented chap, this is my opinion, too. Valor is a musical and conceptual genius! The militant Rozz "fans" seem to forget that he's all over "Ashes", one of their favourite albums, and that Rozz would have opted for the name Pompeii 99 or Daucus Korota from 1983 onwards if it hadn't been for Valor and Yann Farcey.
@jazminekill Rubbish. And, why insult Valor with homophobic language when Rozz was bisexual? Moreover, the criticism that "it's all metal" is ridiculous. Valor plays everything from classical to pop, from punk to electronic, from metal to goth. I, for one, am glad they are not just "death rock". A friend of mine, who'd never heard CD before, recently remarked that they're the most diverse band she's come across. Boundaries are for the narrow-minded. Long live Valor and his ground-breaking art!
Not seen that edit before, thanks for posting it. Love this song. Valor's guitar is cool as well, looks like a chopped-up Strat? Wonder if he's still got it/plays it?
everyone complains this guy ruined the band, well they had to get SOMEONE to sing didnt they ? and no not the same guy of course, but pretty damn good
This used to be a legendary deathrock/gothic band. Once Rozz died everything changed though. And still it wasn't that bad, but no they aren't even deathrock anymore... more like heavy metal... gah. RIP Rozz. Fuck Valor for ruining this band.
Rozz's whole game of coming back in the 90s and saying "wait, I left the band after Catastrophe Ballet, but no, despite several good albums by Valor, I AM THE REAL Christian Death" was pathetic, as was his creative output at this time. If Rozz had lived, he would have continued to churn out this sub-standard tripe. Yeah everything changed when whiner died, somewhat for the better.
Look, I'm not saying that Valor isn't a good musician. I just think he really disowned the fans wioth the way he took this band. Rozz was much more of a genius and artist than Valor would ever be.
rozz's lyrics were not hokey, they were just as poetic as valor's it was the music that that valor was producing back then that grabbed me. rozz's music was great too, take a song like will o the whip totally different sound in bass, drums & guitars never heard back then. rozz's sound always kinda lived in the shadow of bauhaus sad to say & sounded awful live. actually the only good live album i can remember with rozz was the decomposition of violets & that was with the help of valor.
roz & valor both had a great & unique sounds in 80's & early 90's. speacialy valor's early stuff. u can not deny ashes or atrocities two of the most powerful, well defined & unique goth rock albums of all time & do i dare say better then only theatre of pain... yes. but valor truly sucks now, ever since pornographic messiah they have went down hill. valor's pathetic attempt to be hardcore has brought the band to shame. christian death will never b the same.
Why don't you listen to American Inquisition before you say Valor sucks now! It's the most powerful album since ashes or atrocities in my opinion! Seriously give it a listen first!
plus -- Valor had a huge volume of work - which Rozz.. very little.. hence Valor has some unimpressive stuff in there -
But ill take This is Heresy / Sick of Love / Lachrima Christi / Wretched Mankind / and many others over the couple decent songs (namely spiritual cramp and Romeo's Distress.. the only worth mentioning) by Rozz..all that his legacy has been living on..
i have listened to american inquisition, it was worse then born again antichrist. it sucked, nowhere near as good as ashes or atrocities. actually it's probably the bands worst album.
so the age old rozz vs. valor war goes on to eternity.
rozz was alright.. and had his own style and all - but Valors lyrics were incredible - unlike Rozz's hokey 'ereht si on ytic fo dog'.. silly 60 iq satanist 'if you say stuff backwards its scary' viewpoint -
Valor is/was brilliant - and could play practically every instrument - and his music had substance... which is exactly why he loses in the debate.. true substance is always ignored over the mediocre
maybee it was unfair that he didnt change the name, back in the 80's... but it is so stupid of arguing about valor und what an idiot he is, nobody cares how fucking true you want to be. valor was involved since the third CD record, to that time rozz chose to work with him and in my opinion everything he did to the point of the "sex,drugs and jesus christ" is fucking awesome. you have to give him credit to all those great records!
You must be including the Deathwish EP at #2, although I'm not so sure it came out before Catastrophe Ballet as they are both from 1984.
Hmmmm...
And although I practically WORSHIP Rozz, I do like a good amount of Valor's post-Rozz CD material. Poor guy gets a bad rap, though perhaps deservedly so.
well i admit rozz is amzing and valour isn't on par but keep in mind ROZZ HIMESElF SOLD THE RIGHTS TO CHRISTIAN DEATH so it's not worth complaing about anymore because, because he would have to hate and truly dispise his band to do something like that and ROZZ is Dead :,(
Gitane Demone looks like Madonna, but I like it, I like this typicaly image of 80's bitcy grils: blondies all dressed in black, with lace and this jacket...
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its good. one of my favs from Sin & Sacrifice, tho honestly all theyre stuff was good, its his Solo Career post-Gitane that has been hit & miss, but mostly hit. and im a diehard Rozz supporter, but Valor's got masterpieces of his own.
hashfromplan9 3 months ago
please , post the original " the nascent virion" version.
merci.
interval999 5 months ago
is there any link from which I could download the song?
XBodomBastard 10 months ago
Valor looks so cool in this video!
Stahlgewitter777 11 months ago
Its ALL GOOD!!!! - this whole Valor / Rozz Crap is so stupid...both geniuses in their own right. Alot of those Batcavers, Deathrockers , and Goths of the 70+s and 80's all bleached their hairs blonde and wore fringe after they figured out that the CULT were not deathrock....stupid...anyway, its really about the words. So enjoy it, and wear black, purple, red, and have vampire teeth if you want. But if you want to be real , and gothtastic...read a Mary Shelley book, or look up icahbod cane!
Hermes4Apollo 1 year ago
So Valor is some kind of biblical prophet condemning the hedonistic society he suddenly finds himself surrounded by? That's a pretty hard sell, although he does display great "valor" in fighting off those bespectacled dorks who shamelessly try to fondle Gitane's boobies. Nice going there sir!
And, hey, is that Maitri who interrupts Valor's solo at 2:54 for what I can only assume is a longing for his (un)holy cock???
I tell you, this video is riddled with symbolism. Scholars take note...
ral1334 1 year ago
Gitane used to be quite a hell of a chick
zammammaro 2 years ago
GAYlor killed Christian Death, It's nothing how they used to be, not Deathrock anymore, now it's all metal. Rozz is so much better.
jazminekill 2 years ago
@jazminekill I agree...it's not deathrock.
oramikleepunk 1 year ago
@jazminekill Valor Kand is still infinitely superior to Rozz, in every conceivable way.
TheLeatherNunn 1 year ago
@TheLeatherNunn
Although Rozz was a very talented chap, this is my opinion, too. Valor is a musical and conceptual genius! The militant Rozz "fans" seem to forget that he's all over "Ashes", one of their favourite albums, and that Rozz would have opted for the name Pompeii 99 or Daucus Korota from 1983 onwards if it hadn't been for Valor and Yann Farcey.
Stahlgewitter777 11 months ago
@jazminekill Rubbish. And, why insult Valor with homophobic language when Rozz was bisexual? Moreover, the criticism that "it's all metal" is ridiculous. Valor plays everything from classical to pop, from punk to electronic, from metal to goth. I, for one, am glad they are not just "death rock". A friend of mine, who'd never heard CD before, recently remarked that they're the most diverse band she's come across. Boundaries are for the narrow-minded. Long live Valor and his ground-breaking art!
Stahlgewitter777 11 months ago
rabble rabble rabble!
Darthklint666 2 years ago
does anyone have the lyrics for this??? thanks
gerryevil 2 years ago
there's a rozz school, there's a valor school -- it's all good.
bigbronzespider 2 years ago 11
Not seen that edit before, thanks for posting it. Love this song. Valor's guitar is cool as well, looks like a chopped-up Strat? Wonder if he's still got it/plays it?
thesightofglass 2 years ago
i love valor just as much as rozz! gitane demone rocks too!
depechemodesam 2 years ago 2
everyone complains this guy ruined the band, well they had to get SOMEONE to sing didnt they ? and no not the same guy of course, but pretty damn good
rizanater 2 years ago 3
Valor is so sexy!*___________*
bloodybitch111 2 years ago
This used to be a legendary deathrock/gothic band. Once Rozz died everything changed though. And still it wasn't that bad, but no they aren't even deathrock anymore... more like heavy metal... gah. RIP Rozz. Fuck Valor for ruining this band.
7Row7enn7 3 years ago
Rozz's whole game of coming back in the 90s and saying "wait, I left the band after Catastrophe Ballet, but no, despite several good albums by Valor, I AM THE REAL Christian Death" was pathetic, as was his creative output at this time. If Rozz had lived, he would have continued to churn out this sub-standard tripe. Yeah everything changed when whiner died, somewhat for the better.
RoseCrossVato 2 years ago
Look, I'm not saying that Valor isn't a good musician. I just think he really disowned the fans wioth the way he took this band. Rozz was much more of a genius and artist than Valor would ever be.
7Row7enn7 2 years ago
chale ese guey tiene risos perfectos :S
punkpachas 3 years ago
That isn't Eva O is it?? who is this chack???
anyone? anyone?
romeodigital 3 years ago
It's Gitane Demone
Lobotomyu 3 years ago 2
It's Gitane Demone.
lupton79 3 years ago
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do people really listen to this shit.!!!!!!!!!
jointops99 3 years ago
yes, there are people who are different from you, get used to it. douche
voltagejunkie666 2 years ago
douche,,,big word for you,,
jointops99 2 years ago
rozz's lyrics were not hokey, they were just as poetic as valor's it was the music that that valor was producing back then that grabbed me. rozz's music was great too, take a song like will o the whip totally different sound in bass, drums & guitars never heard back then. rozz's sound always kinda lived in the shadow of bauhaus sad to say & sounded awful live. actually the only good live album i can remember with rozz was the decomposition of violets & that was with the help of valor.
deathailsatan 3 years ago 3
roz & valor both had a great & unique sounds in 80's & early 90's. speacialy valor's early stuff. u can not deny ashes or atrocities two of the most powerful, well defined & unique goth rock albums of all time & do i dare say better then only theatre of pain... yes. but valor truly sucks now, ever since pornographic messiah they have went down hill. valor's pathetic attempt to be hardcore has brought the band to shame. christian death will never b the same.
deathailsatan 3 years ago
Why don't you listen to American Inquisition before you say Valor sucks now! It's the most powerful album since ashes or atrocities in my opinion! Seriously give it a listen first!
DRUMLINEASSASSIN 3 years ago 10
plus -- Valor had a huge volume of work - which Rozz.. very little.. hence Valor has some unimpressive stuff in there -
But ill take This is Heresy / Sick of Love / Lachrima Christi / Wretched Mankind / and many others over the couple decent songs (namely spiritual cramp and Romeo's Distress.. the only worth mentioning) by Rozz..all that his legacy has been living on..
xnothingbutthetruth 3 years ago
i have listened to american inquisition, it was worse then born again antichrist. it sucked, nowhere near as good as ashes or atrocities. actually it's probably the bands worst album.
deathailsatan 3 years ago
so the age old rozz vs. valor war goes on to eternity.
rozz was alright.. and had his own style and all - but Valors lyrics were incredible - unlike Rozz's hokey 'ereht si on ytic fo dog'.. silly 60 iq satanist 'if you say stuff backwards its scary' viewpoint -
Valor is/was brilliant - and could play practically every instrument - and his music had substance... which is exactly why he loses in the debate.. true substance is always ignored over the mediocre
xnothingbutthetruth 3 years ago 4
You're right.. I came around.. Valor does have a lot to offer... When I was exposed to Between Youth I came around.. Thanks for the clue..
romeodigital 3 years ago 3
Know Rozz = Know Christian Death
ellonche 3 years ago
No Rozz = no Christian Death
ellonche 3 years ago
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boring boring boring
unbamyotrobam 3 years ago
Valor doesint suck hes just not as good as rozz
Spiritsontonight 3 years ago
cant you just get over it...
so what he did not change the name...
who fuckin cares...
its music...
stop being stupid...
greatest c.d. vid btw..
gothartos 3 years ago
HAHAHAaaaaaaa oh
tatonnement 3 years ago
I HATE THIS GUY..THEIF
hequbiss 3 years ago
"Zero Sex"?! Well VALOR, someone needs to skull-f*ck what little brains you have left right out of that THICK HEAD of yours...
Allan Zane
wyrmallanzane 3 years ago
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This is not Christian Death. This is Valor Kand prancing around and pretending to have talent. No Rozz = no Christian Death.
BlacknWhitesAlright 3 years ago
you are so boring!
hotte138 3 years ago
but so very right!
thesemenincident 3 years ago
maybee it was unfair that he didnt change the name, back in the 80's... but it is so stupid of arguing about valor und what an idiot he is, nobody cares how fucking true you want to be. valor was involved since the third CD record, to that time rozz chose to work with him and in my opinion everything he did to the point of the "sex,drugs and jesus christ" is fucking awesome. you have to give him credit to all those great records!
hotte138 3 years ago 2
You must be including the Deathwish EP at #2, although I'm not so sure it came out before Catastrophe Ballet as they are both from 1984.
Hmmmm...
And although I practically WORSHIP Rozz, I do like a good amount of Valor's post-Rozz CD material. Poor guy gets a bad rap, though perhaps deservedly so.
noinim 3 years ago
well i admit rozz is amzing and valour isn't on par but keep in mind ROZZ HIMESElF SOLD THE RIGHTS TO CHRISTIAN DEATH so it's not worth complaing about anymore because, because he would have to hate and truly dispise his band to do something like that and ROZZ is Dead :,(
TheCureAfterMidnight 3 years ago
Gitane Demone looks like Madonna, but I like it, I like this typicaly image of 80's bitcy grils: blondies all dressed in black, with lace and this jacket...
Selenzero 3 years ago
ashes to ashes lust to lust theres nothing like this sons of earth!!!!!! michael marzana
miykyi 3 years ago
Valor has a scrachy vocie I profore Rozz but Valors not bad just not good.
Enterthedeath 3 years ago
... Though I have to say, despit e the fact that Rozz was always better than Valor... Valor himself is pretty hot... So is Gitane...
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zionistchristians 3 years ago
???
7Row7enn7 3 years ago
Good song.... Valor's not so great though.
7Row7enn7 3 years ago
Hahahahah Look at his face at 1:59-2:00
saintantric 4 years ago
watch the way he dances after that lmao
ihatejuggalos123 3 years ago