The Matrix - Joseph Campbell Monomyth

[Minky2488]

Like this if your Kaplan University Instructor sent you here

[melisse1123]

After watching Finding Joe, the movie based on Joseph Campbell's philosophies, I now see the hero's journey in everything! It's insane how right someone can be. I'm researching him now, and that guy was a genius!!! bitly .com/syDsZQ

[TheNoGoodnick]

@melisse1123 I just followed your link but felt like you could've sent us to the actual website for Finding Joe: findi ngjoethemovi e.c om | We can't really watch the movie on youtube but we can watch it on the website.

[Samm1807]

Kal Bashir's material at youtube channel clickokdotcodotuk is a better interpretation.

[link352809]

they got most of Ghost in shell ideas to make the Matrix

[filmactscom]

check out filmacts.com for examples of hero's journey in films!!

[nostolgia]

John Allegro also has some good stuff if anyones interested.

[Ditrix]

referring to the matrix for scientific or spiritual beliefs is really grats, grats bro

[Leandrocaproni8]

Hummm, agora faz sentido.

[brunofujii]

Jesus?

[zexgogeta]

The end is hilarious!

[frannyc28]

@cropatia the flight at the end of the movie also referes to the 17 stages of JC Campbell's Monomyth:

The Magic Flight

Sometimes the hero must escape with the boon, if it is something that the gods have been jealously guarding. It can be just as adventurous and dangerous returning from the journey as it was to go on it.

Campbell: "If the hero in his triumph wins the blessing of the goddess or the god and is then explicitly commissioned to return to the world with some elixir for the restorat

[NinjaBearFighter]

This also helps explain why the other two werent a good. You can't have a trilogy when the arc of the journey is completed fully in the first movie.

[raezing16]

@NinjaBearFighter Not necessarily true, after all, if you think about it, the original Star Wars movie was a full hero's journey arc as well as the beginning of an overarching arc over the next two movies. Likewise, every Harry Potter book features a complete hero's journey, but it gains much more meaning in the larger hero's journey that Harry travels over the seven books.

[TMinix72]

@NinjaBearFighter The "Monomyth" is cyclical; meaning that it continues in circles. It will never stop. I agree that the last two Matrix's weren't as good as the first, but it's not for that reason at all.

[JulianS1993]

@NinjaBearFighter also explains why the Star Wars prequels seemed incoherent and confusing. But maybe that's just me.

[DigitalCinema100]

Does anyone know when the movie Beheading Buddha is coming out?

[jesusisbling]

Stage *8 where the hero has to go through some kind of ordeal, some kind of test that may involve facing death.

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Except you can leave out the word may.....

[cropatia]

matrix was so big.it's crazy how much it effected the visual design of our world. I still see roots in every cell phone and razor commercial.

lol..i remember being really turned off by the last scene of neo flying away (maybe content, maybe the shot). it threw me with the movie because it's been the most awesome movie i've ever seen.

[getstoried]

Story Mash-up: The Matrix Meets Joseph Campbell

[JeffZHigs1]

...or else it's a total waste of time.

[rcmontecalvo]

heinrich zimmer and joseph campbell: a must-read for everyone

[tubeuseryou101]

The Matrix is one of my favorite movies. I would like someone to edit out all the superfluous characters, contrived melodramatic action and plot complicating tangents from the second and third movies (2 and 3 had much fat to trim). Edit out a little of the first one too. Focus on the love story of trin and neo on their journey. The result would be a great movie. Re-release it in theaters and watch the profits pile in. Their only investment is editing, distribution and advertising.

[RandomUsername010]

@tubeuseryou101 Or of course u could edit the movie urself & watch it in the privacy of ur own residence, thus, sparing the rest of us ur ridiculous, inane, idiotic ideas. Good day, sir :)

[Gunt78]

@tubeuseryou101 its already been done search for it online

[TheTTBT]

Anyone into Joseph Campbell should also check out Marshall McLuhan. His media observations add a spectacular layer not just to the Matrix, but to the evolution of metaphor and mythology in general.

[Editor02Channel]

we had to watch this @ school ;-)

[trakkaton]

Is there a second movie for which this paraphasing works?

[salvin2]

@trakkaton there are more movies that follow this pattern than movies that don't. Star Wars is probably the easiest one to see, but pretty much any movie having to do with an adventure is going to follow this pattern. Some others movies off the top of my head: Back to the Future, Willow, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Avatar (aka Pocahontas in Space), Wizard of Oz, E.T., Tenacious D: POD, etc. This pattern has been around as long as storytelling itself.

[angusharris]

Butterfly,

The refusal of the call makes complete sense and the writer/director stated he used Campbell as a guide. He did NOT state he worshiped him. The refusal "moment" is seen in many myths. Whether it be described as a moment of "panic", etc. I suggest you take Campbell's advice and take a look at your own life. I bet you'll find moments of refusal all over the place.

[SigersonLTD]

I love randomly clicking on a Saturday, you find such gems. Like this....

[dunecigar]

Thank you, but I don't need the Hero's Journey explained to me.

[WackoJakko1331]

then dont watch it you stupid fuck. why the fuck would you even look at this if you didnt need it explained to you? you are a moron shoot yourself

[Elcore]

@dunecigar Oooo aren't you smart!!!

[Editor02Channel]

@dunecigar its a good thing you watched the video then!

[UrbanMage79]

So the Matrix (part one) clearly follows the guiding structure of the monomyth to the letter. Guess they took the scaffolding down to make Reloaded and Revolutions. Well at least we now have a concrete explanation for how shit the sequels were.

[butterf1yz]

the refusal of the call is not a part of the adventure. it's an occasional alternative to the rest of the adventure. He probably didn't even read campbell's  book past the table of contents.

[UrbanMage79]

No. It's a part of it. Apparently you didn't make it past the contents. :)

[butterf1yz]

Chapter 2-refusal of the call.

"Not infrequently in the myths and popular tales, we encouter the dull case of the call unanswered. (...) Refusal of the summons converts the adventure into its negative. Walled in boredom, the subject loses the power" etc.

Chapter 3-supernatural aid

"For those who have NOT REFUSED the call, th first encounter of the journey is with a protective figure (...)"

-The Hero With a Thousand Faces, Joseph Campbell

Buy the book, learn how to read, and THEN comment :)

[UrbanMage79]

So redemption is not a pivotal theme?

Anyway we're at cross purposes here; I wasn't saying the refusal was a part of Campbell's identified process, I was saying it is part of the "Adventure", which if you have read the book (and not just indexed the pdf ;) I'm sure you will agree that, aside from Campbells explicit explanation of the specified stages, there is also an implication that fall and redemption plays a major part in the overall adventure; be it a narrative one, or in life itself.

[butterf1yz]

The refusal of the call is not a part of the hero's adventure. I obviously don't care about your overall analysis of a book you haven't read: if you can find a quote in campbell's work that supports what this guy says at 0:49, and dirrectly contradicts the ones I shared, tell it to us. Otherwise, recognize you are absolutely wrong about a very simple matter.

[UrbanMage79]

lol if you delete anymore posts there isn't going to be much space left for anyone else to write. Though it was probably wise to get rid of your "rude" and "Illiterate" accusations... why illiterate? And as for "rude", what did I say that you didn't? It was a lighthearted quip with a smiley following it. I suggest you get some thicker skin if you're gonna post here.

In response, (and very briefly, because this is tiresome) you referred to the "adventure" NOT the monomyth.

[butterf1yz]

Your attempt at getting out of your complete blunder by sounding deep and vague with nothing to back it up was pathetic, know that. Now getting advice on thick skin in an Internet argument from a man with no face is just risible. Keep smiling.

[UrbanMage79]

lol, dude, get over it.

[JoshuaMonjin]

Amazing how faithfully the matrix follows the pattern

[TomMSTie]

Looking at Lord Raglan's PATH OF THE HERO, Neo should be resurrected or reborn in the Matrix.

[TomMSTie]

D'oh! Stupid me! I forgot about Neo dying and coming back at the end of the first movie.

[culturaleyes]

I didn't know there was a Joseph Campbell analysis of the Matrix!!  That's too awesome!!

[Jaz906]

If you look on the special features, look for a red bean ( Which is the pill it just looks like a bean)

[41jimmyp]

I liked his journey better on Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.... "Put them in the Iron Maiden... dude Iron Maiden.... air guitar... whoa dude... etc. I am be the one person on the earth that hates the Matrix... but Joesph Campbell is a genius

[seebistoo]

I'm walking the path of NEO.. I'm NEO.. haha SYKE.. LOVE THIS...

[KHRaccoon]

Such a great movie to demonstrate the Monomyth.

[russellspasm]

Check out the arabian nights edited by Campbell

[mlporart]

thanks for posting this

[MaoWantsYutube]

Joseph Campell - Power of the myth.

another fascinating must see.

[chopin65]

I have it on DVD. It's wonderful.

[shinzu4001]

Also, his (Campbell's)  Mythos series 1 and 2 are not to be missed.

[lazrul]

exploitation

[alchemistra]

Oh, man, I still love these...Joe was a hero, now his journey is complete.

Love ya, Joe, RIP

[misshim09]

I'm getting this. I think who ever read these books have to potential to do great things... AWSOME...

[WhaleManMatt]

Thank You So much for posting this

I really needed this kind of video

thank you (:

[seebistoo]

Awsome Very good stuff... I would not mind getting a philosophy major...

[misshim09]

I'm actually getting this.. Its coming in to focus...

[slicknickverbs]

A GREAT Joseph Campbell DVD is Sukhavati - I think that's how it's spelled. I saw it on PBS late at night and I was like YES! YES! It's very well done. Very entertaining yet very zen and mind blowing in scope and wisdom.

Great background music over great mythical sybolic stories being told by Joseph Cambell. Wait till you actually hear this stuff from the Professor himself. just awesome

[seebistoo]

What the best book to start out with? Ive read JUNG first 100 pages. I stopped to boreing. I wish there was a book that was short sweet and to the point. Sorry If Ive offended anyone. What benefits does reading this book have. Excuse my ignorance about the book. Ill read it some time in the near furture..

[jenyfur4884]

Just look for Bill Moyer's interview with Joseph Campbell. It might be on YouTube or Google. I found it on DVD at a local movie rental place. Should be called "The Power of Myth".

[misshim09]

Hey Thanks JEN.. ILL check it out and get back to you....

[fntime]

Also try some of Joseph Campbells

tapes. He is a brillant generalist, he

is comfortable with quantum physics

and is on the cutting edge of all learning

He explains things easily, his passion

for the subject is contagious.

Give Campbell a try!!!

[seebistoo]

Thanks....

[lightofdamon]

loved reading about the stages

Love Joseph Campbell

thanks for making this

[KR1963]

The entire trilogy portrays more truth then maybe the Wachkowski brothers ever envisioned. LOTR & Star Wars also portray this adventure quite accurately as well.

Ultimately the sacrifice of ones self for the greater good opens the door to salvation & a rising of the condition of the group. In the end SERVICE to ones fellow man is the highest motivation one can obtain.

[InfiniteTrinityII]

Glad u liked this

[DarkCode]

Yes there is a Villain Cycle. Mainly its based on succumbing to dark emotions and giving in to the dark feelings to the point of living in the negative realm, being consumed by it, and becoming the very thing you thought was Evil, or wrong, or unjust before and embracing it as what things should be like and how you should be the new leader of this dark way or a main participant. It is all over. For example my X girlfriend who was cheated on so much she became the very evil Cheater herself.

[northenSky73]

At what stage are you? and have you got the balls to go on?

[CosmosPrivateer]

I good explanation of events but the Matrix has much more hidden knowledge than just this.

[amaxamon]

Campbell is nonsense - try G.S. Kirk for the real deal.

[bignube]

campbell is genius.

[anthonyromeo]

No wonder The Matrix is one of my favorite movies. I'm just starting to read Campbell's works. Very enlightening, indeed! Thanks for the post!

[DefaultPosition]

George Lucas also used Campbell's work to inspire the story lines for the Star Wars films.

[Sanguiluna]

Has any mythologist ever tried to codify a "Villain Cycle"? IS there even a common pattern tend to follow like the hero, or is the concept of the Villain far too complex to narrow into a single thread?

[bernardojts]

the Villain is a mirror of the hero

[Tsentralnaya]

Thanks for proving my point about how uneccesary it is that this exists.

The people that can't apply it to their lives aren't the type of people who read this type of shit. People who can't think critically probably aren't gonna walk into a chapters.

The only people who will even sit down long enough to listen to someone talk about this shit or crack a book on it is already capable of all that's been said.

So the fact remains that it's nothing more than literary smut, unwarranted existence.

[tonypeters69]

Tsentralnaya -

Five dried grams in silent darkness will show you way beyond language

[Tsentralnaya]

This is nothing more than literary pornography. Joseph Cambell decided to write down what everyone already was perfectly aware of and he's treated like some hero of the English language. Fucking joke. Like that bullshit spewed in the Educated Imagination.

People understand the journey of a hero, they don't need to dig any deeper into it. The only thing you get by digging deeper, is dirty. You ruin it.

This kinda bullshit is the biggest problem with English today.

[pocrocaa]

is this how you really feel?

[Tsentralnaya]

Absolutely.

[livebyreason]

what everyone already was perfectly aware of = the obvious..thing is though, its not obvious to everyone. Most ppl are blind to the what seems obvious to some. I seriously doubt that more than 1 in 50 ppl are actually capable of critical thinking at any respectable level.

Anyway, I think I will go watch some prime time TV, so I can be told what to buy and why I should want it.

[thejm808]

Certainly everyone knows it in their subconscious, but they can't apply it to their lives so it hurts society. They can't work through or deal with their life hardships so they feel like they have to steal or commit crimes. Campbell has much to say beyond the journey of the hero.

[Eldritchard]

Even Odin had to hang from Yggdrasil for 9 nights and 9 days after giving up his RIGHT eye to gain the knowledge of the runes for mankind and himself.

You look into all myths modern or acient the pretty similar. The really popular monomyth is The Star Wars Trilogy, i say trilogy becuase the prequels where crap and unneeded.

Fascinating stuff, can you study Comparative Mythology without a massive bank account??

[RaelWander]

Yup, you can. Actually, I am. We're discussing Campbell in our mythology class, and were asked to write a paper about a modern myth that fits in with Campbell's monomyth. Just finished it, from SCRATCH, and only now looked up this vid. Haha, I didn't realise that the makers were directly influenced by him. So I guess I reinvented a god damn wheel! But that's okay, I severly enjoyed the exercise :P. At least now, I know I'm right!

-Rael

[Sanguiluna]

Hell yeah. In fact, George Lucas was like a "disciple" of Campbell, having spoken with him and learned much of what he knows about myth.

I'd say the prequels can also constitute as the "hero quest" for Anakin Skywalker, and the original trilogy is like the "belly of the whale" for him, in which Anakin is trapped, until the very end when he breaks free and conquers his enemy, much like how Christ broke free of the tomb and conquered death.

[DanielofDoria]

if U want more knowlege or truth one must tread new ground and go into the unknown for it is in this journey and place the truth resides.

[eliotreader]

The speaker doesnt know what he is talking about.....

[amazonman54]

There's something you don't know, and you don't know you don't know it, and that is that the speaker does actually know what he is talking about, has written a book about it, and so has Joseph Campbell, and most Hollywood movies follow this pattern whether you don't know it or not.

[notarecordplayer]

ya just because you cant understand it doesnt mean it doesnt mean something.

[seebistoo]

SO how can books from joesph cambell inpact your life..??

[itsbensiegel]

By reading them.

[nighthawk006]

Nice find! *****

[Romani1969]

After studying Campbell, I don't see movies the same way; in a ways it bad, because I can't enjoy the story as it is, and I always end up analyzing it. On the other hand, it's fun trying to figure out all the hero steps as the movie go on.

[eggory]

It's cool to try and make a big story that takes something from sort of being the big modern example of the way all the great old stories are written, which seems what he initially describes. But that kind of fomula is also a really cheap way to make art. I guess what he's describing probably works best as a legend formula specifically, and seems more justified that way. But listening to someone talk about the scientific list of things needed to make great art is always a bit uninspiring for me.

[hubbardproductions]

it should be more inspiring because it gives you more tools to make better art. you can try to make art without any skills, but a list or map of tried and tested rules should not be sniffed at. at some point you may have writers block or people who don't appreciate what you are trying, these lessons could help.

[eggory]

I just feel that a story that's arbitrarily designed to be emotionally effective to an audience in certain ways is kind of pretentious and hollow. Art should be more than a partly creative application of science. And though going on inspiration alone is really tough, and there would be alot less decent quallity art to fill the world coming from high-production half inspired artists, anyone who does excessively cheat their way through the process of inspiration is worthy of only modest praise.

[hubbardproductions]

i didn't think that artists made art for praise, only they they make art to tell their story and affect their audience, any tool that helps you emotionally affect your audience should be respected above tool of originality that seems to sweep over artist priorities and blur the fact that originality is overrated, the most lauded artists "Tarrantino" "Kanye West" Steal their way into peoples respect

[eggory]

You don't have to be original, you just have to be genuine. You make a good point about kanye and quinten. But their art is still genuine. West hears some of the world's great art and it appeals to him, and he uses it to express himself because other people's art is part of his experience. Quinten imitates and stylizes the ways of 70s cheese films because he has a unique appretiaion for them. It now occurs to me that campbell could be the same.

[eggory]

But your talk about an artist doing what he has to to get the right rise out of his audience is what had me in disagreement, and still does. That's manipulation, and cold and meaningless. Whatever the product, the process that made the art is important. It's supposed to be about an individual with something to express, and heightened ability to do so. Then people relating to it is incidental, and as a result real. How can you draw inspiration from someone who doesn't even feel what they produce?

[widmogames]

eggory, your viewpoint is one shared by many bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad artists

[eggory]

Are you insecure or just lazy? Why do you resort to insulting my person before even trying to deal with my ideas, or before i said anything insulting? Do you care to articulate your thoughts at all, since you bother to share them in any form, or do you just feel righteous trying to piss me off?

[widmogames]

i didn't say you were bad, egg, who's insecure? lazy yes i am lazy

[TramonWalker]

@eggory totally agree

[RODERICKMOLASAR]

One of the most electrifying moments in my entire cinematic experience is the scene in which Neo becomes reborn as a whole new, vastly more powerful and illuminated being. All the other dramatic events in all three movies cannot possibly compare to this one fantastic sequence.

[wahnano]

Joseph Campbell changed my life in 1994 and I'm not the same since.

Brilliant mind indeed, no doubt.

[sonyarose8]

Me, too!!!!!!!! I am not kidding. My teacher introduced Joseph Campbell to me right around that time in my life, too :)

[curmudgeon99]

Joseph Campbell is a God to those of us who write novels. He found a great structure that can be used in a million ways. This is just a fantastic video--every second is of critical importance.

[markusgp]

Hero journey for dummies, is not casual that repeating the same raw formula that star wars give the matrix a similar impact to a new generation....Neo's journey is complete in the first movie, in the other two he is already a hero, almost another superman so hard to identify with...

[ChrisStavros]

I recommend to anyone who got interested in the monomyth to get the original books by Campbell and ignore the dozens of bastardizations and superficial variations of it that various authors and directors spread these days.

[villemar]

Agree 100%, The Hero's Journey and the PBS shows are fine but that's only the very first step. to stay there and always bandy it about is trendy and too easy. I much prefer his later works and his audio lectures where he gets much deeper into monomythic themes.

And a quick word on the Matrix, while its a classic it does present a simplistic, binary view. While trendy to bash the sequels, they went for something beyond that and although parts may not've worked they deserve props for audacity.

[matrixcmitech]

i agree. if the student does not graduate from matrix part.i then the student is unable to fully appreciate part.ii and part.iii

[Georgetownguy]

Joeseph Campbell is an amazing man. Google him, learn about him, watch the PBS videos

[funk2eat]

shut up fag

[Georgetownguy]

You have some issues. I suspect you understand that. The fact you're actually wathing this video is hopeful

[VrtirepkaST]

this is hilarious

[TramonWalker]

@VrtirepkaST how

[funk2eat]

whats wathing

[FunNotNuts]

Joseph Campbell was highly educated, highly read, highly travelled...excellent in most ways...and when it came right down to it, the bottom line for him was... "Follow your bliss". After all that! And he's RIGHT.

[stargate121]

Does the hero's journey usually include two sucky sequels?

[anitapieroni]

incredible tool for every screenwriter. that´s exactly what I needed in order to structure all the stories I write.

[brianpadraic]

Awesome, dude. Twelves steps, like, A.A. Gnarly.

Excellent video.