A good little way to decide wether or not a band is "underground" or not- If you can purchase their merchandise at Hot Topic, they're not underground.
No it doesn't. Mainstream is music that conforms to the stupidity of the listeners. The underground has intelligence conforming to the music. The mainstream is where the music conforms. As long as the heart stays in the music and it is always true to the heart without molding the music so that your fans like it it is underground. Facebook. "Underground over Mainstream" Join that shit...I FEEL MOVEMENT!
i wuldnt say there exactly mainstream...i havnt heard much radio play from them and havnt seen ther music videos on fuse or other channels...which is one sign of main stream
I never really considered any of these bands to be underground, i listen to ADTR and Emmure, but i think they are getting to be mainstream metal. still amazing.
Otep is pretty underground, I think. They're not mainstream popular is what they mean. Compare Otep to actual mainstream artists. You can't. Otep is an amazing band and they deserve what ever radio play they can get!
I think Otep is pretty damn mainstream, I hear them on the radio all the time. Emmure sucks. And ADTR is awesome, but they are more than underground, but less than mainstream.
i think this means. the current mainstream is over, which is all that rap, hip hop bullshit. if metal/screamo takes over as mainstream, it'll be way better than what it is now.
I doubt jonas bros miley cyrus katty perry all time low taylor swift etc are even the slightest bit hip hop if you don't know what the word means don't use it if your idea of hip hop is souja boi, akon, or Justin Bieber then you don't know what hip hop is.
So those bands in that commercial aren't mainstream? That's why I heard Otep on the radio more than a few times. Same with ADTR. Both are most likely on MTV. And Emmure just blows.
Victory records has never been that underground, but all the people calling ADTR mainstream don't know mainstream. And if they were it wouldn't matter because they're not sellouts. They've put in their due diligence over the last 7 years touring often over 300 days a year. And their music only continues to get better. Fans like me that have been going to their shows for years are the people that got them where they are, and they haven't turned their back on us.
u want underground?....GO SUPPORT YOUR FUCKING LOCAL BANDS. SHIT. THATS THE MOST UNDERGROUND YOUR GUNNA GET. as soon as you sign. you pretty much sell out. unless your music is as good as it was before you signed. and shit guys they do have bills to pay. just because they play shows doesnt mean they get everything free. shit. best band on this? emmure. otep is ehh and adtr is too mainstream of words
its what ever. some times i think a mainstream song is good. sometimes i think a main stream song sucks. but the same goes fro underground. who says you can only like ONE kind? I love music. so much that i don't have a specific fav song or band becuase i like so many different kinds. i can pick just one genre or style. be open minded. :)
ADTR arnt underground lol there constantly played on kerrang and scuzz mainstream aint over so called mainstream bands got there from being the best at what they do dont get me wrong i like alot of the bands signed to companies like victory records that but really all there doing is makin money out of the sad fashion that is going around these days which is to say all main stream is shit and underground is the only music worth listening to its just a sales pitch aimed at the fashion at m
aww man so true joban599. mainstream music is done for the love of money. underground and indy are done for the love of music and trying to get your feelings out there.
im surprised emmure is still alive after the shit that went down with The Acacia Strain. (they plagiarized acacia strain songs and when they called them out on it they wrote "r2 deep throat" as a shot against them, read the lyrics to it and see for yourself)
Because more often than not, bands who get very very famous (see Metallica) start getting greedy and don't care about the music as much as they should, resulting in way weaker albums than those which made them famous.
Victory Records is the best label out there! They are for the fans and for the artists! Support this label and my fellow VST's get out there and promote these bands and the label!!
wow. these people are so dumb your going to tell everyone to support the underground and all thats gonna happen is its going to become gay just like mainstream music! and ADTR in my book is considered mainstream .
Yeah, because Victory is so underground with ADTR, Otep, and that platinum record selling band you may have heard, Hawethorne fucking Heights (I know they left, but that album was released on victory). Underground my ass.
Mainstream is shit. I've been supporting the underground for a while. Juuustt... Some underground bands I listen to end up goin mainstream. =/ I still stick with em though. Most are worth it.
ha adtr faggots? watevs guys and just so u know i like mainstream music. its good. ADTR rock ass and soo does mainstream music and all u underground emos are the fags not me so go jump.
They called ADTR not mainstream AND THEN PLAYED DOWNFALL OF US ALL!! ADTR is gay now. They're mainstream and their music isn't even close to how good it used to be.
Isnt it ironic how you say a "faggot" to remember sucks than say go Otep when Otep's gay? And by the way agree with you i hate a day to remember too, but the fact you said faggot pissed me off
90% of ADTR fans are those who have either seen one of their songs on a mainstream television music channel, or seen the huge advertisement campaigns put out by their record companies.
I bet only about 10% of the people who still listen to ADTR are those who have listened to them and supported them all the way. I've got all their albums, including their first EP, and saw them live last year, before Homesick came out.
Dude, all three bands are pretty mainstream depending on where you live, I recently moved schools, and at one school everyone knew ADTR and Emmure but not OTEP, but at my current school, everyone knows OTEP and quite possibly Emmure, but only a few people know ADTR...
this fails on so many levels
MrJayylen 6 months ago
I HATE ANY MUSIC THAT ANYONE ELSE HAS HEARD OF! GOD, WHY MUST PEOPLE LIKE THE MUSIC I LIKE???
Tmanstext 11 months ago
1.ADTR is infact mainstream
2.the fact that they made a commerical, is a disgrace to the supposed music scene they are in.
3.they suck
lockness48 11 months ago
right....victory records saying to support the underground with bands like Atreyu, ADTR and Emmure on their label....LMFAO.
MelodicHollier 1 year ago
Every band on Victory needs to switch labels.
AskMitchJackson 1 year ago
WTF ADTR IS MAINSTREAM AND I LOVE IT!
EpiphoneLPJrGuitar 1 year ago
I swear victory's management has no original members in it anymore. What happened to the 90's victory?
jackbarnett101 1 year ago
adtr went mainstream.
LetsxMakexThisxOurs 1 year ago
I hate mainstream music. It's mostly baphomet music.
derrickjenkins 1 year ago
nope...this is mainstream...it sounds like every other rebellious metalhead...
AKAsheldon 1 year ago
A good little way to decide wether or not a band is "underground" or not- If you can purchase their merchandise at Hot Topic, they're not underground.
MetallicKid007 1 year ago
Otep, A DAY TO REMEMBER, Emmure? You consider this shit underground?
Longcattttt 1 year ago
No it doesn't. Mainstream is music that conforms to the stupidity of the listeners. The underground has intelligence conforming to the music. The mainstream is where the music conforms. As long as the heart stays in the music and it is always true to the heart without molding the music so that your fans like it it is underground. Facebook. "Underground over Mainstream" Join that shit...I FEEL MOVEMENT!
thecasualinfluence37 1 year ago
ADTR is just becoming mainstream. they are not full blown yet
Duffy370 2 years ago
this is stupid adtr is mainstream
BassPlayingRichy 2 years ago
i wuldnt say there exactly mainstream...i havnt heard much radio play from them and havnt seen ther music videos on fuse or other channels...which is one sign of main stream
insidethefire1 2 years ago
Its funny the first band dosnt sound underground at all
bigman148495 2 years ago
Jesus christ that OTEP sounds like a pile of shit. HUURR RESIST THE MACHINE DUURR. Cool, you're rebeling, good for you, TRY TO GET MORE DEPTH ON IT
d00kienation 2 years ago
i hate them
insidethefire1 2 years ago
it doesn't matter if the music is mainstream or underground idiots!!!
as long as the music is good, who cares???
limoncello182 2 years ago
mainstream is over but yet i just heard a day to remember on the radio?
iamsirpat 2 years ago
where? what song? i cant think of one song they could play on the radio...except a slow one.
philster08 2 years ago
downfall
iamsirpat 2 years ago
btw it was on 105.9 the x in pittsburgh
iamsirpat 2 years ago
was it like on at 1 in the morning? they always do that. i dont necessarily think that counts
philster08 2 years ago
ehh.. id say roughly 7:30 am like the day i posted that comment. but yeah.. i knew that homesick would be their mainstream album
iamsirpat 2 years ago
what? what station?
michelerulezd00d 2 years ago
105.9 the x in pittsburgh
iamsirpat 2 years ago
who actually likes Otep
RCScorch 2 years ago
I never really considered any of these bands to be underground, i listen to ADTR and Emmure, but i think they are getting to be mainstream metal. still amazing.
Gromlich666 2 years ago
Otep is pretty underground, I think. They're not mainstream popular is what they mean. Compare Otep to actual mainstream artists. You can't. Otep is an amazing band and they deserve what ever radio play they can get!
Isis4211 2 years ago
To add to that, I think Victory Records is just really good at getting really good bands noticed... by putting them on the radio.
Isis4211 2 years ago
I think Otep is pretty damn mainstream, I hear them on the radio all the time. Emmure sucks. And ADTR is awesome, but they are more than underground, but less than mainstream.
Deadguy56 2 years ago
Goodbye to the Gallows was their only good record
ChadWellTheMan 2 years ago
i think this means. the current mainstream is over, which is all that rap, hip hop bullshit. if metal/screamo takes over as mainstream, it'll be way better than what it is now.
xxXMusickXx 2 years ago
I doubt jonas bros miley cyrus katty perry all time low taylor swift etc are even the slightest bit hip hop if you don't know what the word means don't use it if your idea of hip hop is souja boi, akon, or Justin Bieber then you don't know what hip hop is.
WaffleJesus 2 years ago
Well said.
Isis4211 2 years ago
this is a contradictory video it is made of lies and shitty mainstream "metal"
josh0disaster 2 years ago
if mainstream music is over.. then doesnt that make the underground mainstream?
OFFTHEHEEZAY944 2 years ago
So those bands in that commercial aren't mainstream? That's why I heard Otep on the radio more than a few times. Same with ADTR. Both are most likely on MTV. And Emmure just blows.
InsertKnifeX 2 years ago
Victory records has never been that underground, but all the people calling ADTR mainstream don't know mainstream. And if they were it wouldn't matter because they're not sellouts. They've put in their due diligence over the last 7 years touring often over 300 days a year. And their music only continues to get better. Fans like me that have been going to their shows for years are the people that got them where they are, and they haven't turned their back on us.
depthandhumor 2 years ago
ADTR is BECOMING mainstream. I heard samples of their music on mtv and heard them on a local radio station for the first time a little bit ago.
emmure is garbage. goodbye to the gallows was their best
Joban599 2 years ago
ADTR FUCK YEAH! They are from Ocala which is where I'm from.. This Video was shot there at the skatepark.
lethalforce 2 years ago
how can you tell? emmure has...2 seconds on this video while otep and adtr have what...like 15-30 seconds? fucking cmon,
GuyNamedAbe 2 years ago
u want underground?....GO SUPPORT YOUR FUCKING LOCAL BANDS. SHIT. THATS THE MOST UNDERGROUND YOUR GUNNA GET. as soon as you sign. you pretty much sell out. unless your music is as good as it was before you signed. and shit guys they do have bills to pay. just because they play shows doesnt mean they get everything free. shit. best band on this? emmure. otep is ehh and adtr is too mainstream of words
GuyNamedAbe 2 years ago
its what ever. some times i think a mainstream song is good. sometimes i think a main stream song sucks. but the same goes fro underground. who says you can only like ONE kind? I love music. so much that i don't have a specific fav song or band becuase i like so many different kinds. i can pick just one genre or style. be open minded. :)
xXDarkestOfDarkXx 2 years ago 2
and now reading other comments i realize i just repeated what everyone else was saying hooray
PostalHarry 2 years ago
supporting underground music will turn it into mainstream music
forget the labels, listen to what is good.
PostalHarry 2 years ago
ADTR arnt underground lol there constantly played on kerrang and scuzz mainstream aint over so called mainstream bands got there from being the best at what they do dont get me wrong i like alot of the bands signed to companies like victory records that but really all there doing is makin money out of the sad fashion that is going around these days which is to say all main stream is shit and underground is the only music worth listening to its just a sales pitch aimed at the fashion at m
mosher2k8 2 years ago
main stream music isnt over listen to all that remains this underground crap sucks
tamakit123 2 years ago
support the "underground" mainstream. hahaha
theawesomekidz21 2 years ago 4
Like Adtr isnt mainstream wtf???????????
djangobaby 2 years ago 11
@djangobaby they don't play on the radio but yeah everyone knows who they are
Sh4tteredinfinity 10 months ago
aww man so true joban599. mainstream music is done for the love of money. underground and indy are done for the love of music and trying to get your feelings out there.
FUCK MAINSTREAM!
footyguy92 2 years ago 2
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riffnest 2 years ago
if mainstream is over........and everyone supports the underground......doesn't that make the underground mainstream?
sad. mainstream ruins music
Joban599 2 years ago 18
Exactly.. so then the message should say.. don't support the underground so we can keep it the underground.. so it doesn't go mainstream. Lol
TornadoesNMusic 2 years ago 3
@Joban599 That doesn't make sense. Even if more people like it, it doesn't make it different. its still the same song. WTF? Sigh, hipsters...
Tmanstext 11 months ago
@Tmanstext I know. I was making fun of hipsters. I hate it when people do that too.
Tmanstext 10 months ago
Emmure sucks ass
StickyClick 2 years ago
victory...you are fucking retards
dylansconcertvids 2 years ago
damn it.....
eduardorox0694 2 years ago
this isnt underground fucking idiots this is as mainstream as little wayne
maximum512 2 years ago
Underground? You've got to be fucking kidding me with this shit.
CarnivorousFilms 2 years ago 2
great bands
peazlily 2 years ago
im surprised emmure is still alive after the shit that went down with The Acacia Strain. (they plagiarized acacia strain songs and when they called them out on it they wrote "r2 deep throat" as a shot against them, read the lyrics to it and see for yourself)
DerekDahliaMurder 2 years ago
Because more often than not, bands who get very very famous (see Metallica) start getting greedy and don't care about the music as much as they should, resulting in way weaker albums than those which made them famous.
Nergal131 2 years ago
adtr is the best band on victory hands down. otep and emmure suck ass. who else misses the old atreyu. has anyone heard there new stuff... ITS SHIT.
schulty007 2 years ago
you have got to b joking me adtr sounds like some falloutboy bs dude. but hey look on the bright side you made me laugh
nikohyman 2 years ago
i know the chorus is not the best part
snerl69 2 years ago
that was a horrible example of underground
tyleriscool654 2 years ago 3
Otep is really bad
miwolverine94 2 years ago
I saw something about mainstream being over, but then I saw a day to remember in the video.
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johnnyman37 2 years ago
sweet samples!!!!!!!!!!!!
Timmmeh2000 2 years ago
adtr is a mainstream as it can get.
takkunbonk 2 years ago
uh, not really.
StolenEyelids 2 years ago
yes really.
takkunbonk 2 years ago
The irony of this is hilarious.
A Day to Remember? You've got to be fuckin' kidding me.
Homesick was bullshit, For Those who Have Heart was one of the best albums ever. ADTR is TOO mainstream now.
AlesanasDaBomb 2 years ago
ADTR is sOOOOOOO MAinstream!!! WTF
RRMRS 2 years ago 2
hell yeah!!!!!! Victory Records FTmotherfuckinW!!
YourMessiah666 2 years ago
ahh i wanna go see ADTR so bad next week!
TeviiStar 2 years ago
I LOVE VICTORY~!!!!!!
a7xfreakmia89 2 years ago
Good bands, evil label.
Mikedaman0021 2 years ago
OTEP and ADTR are sick!
peazlily 2 years ago
IT REALLY GROWSS ON YOU!!!
SandEasBandG 2 years ago
Victory Records is the best label out there! They are for the fans and for the artists! Support this label and my fellow VST's get out there and promote these bands and the label!!
Keep rockin!
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jscrumpton 2 years ago
thats such a sikk TV spot =P VR Is amazing
CodyProphet 2 years ago
Otep Rocks
They're A Awesome Band & So Are Many Victory Records Bands Are !!!!!!!
ParamoreBarbieGirl19 2 years ago
fuck yeah! Victory Records owns and Emmure kicks asss!!!!
YourMessiah666 2 years ago 2
emmure and ADTR kick ass
fuckin love them
slayer101160 2 years ago
wow. these people are so dumb your going to tell everyone to support the underground and all thats gonna happen is its going to become gay just like mainstream music! and ADTR in my book is considered mainstream .
dirtymungoo 2 years ago
Yeah, because Victory is so underground with ADTR, Otep, and that platinum record selling band you may have heard, Hawethorne fucking Heights (I know they left, but that album was released on victory). Underground my ass.
pronemortalform92 2 years ago
ADTR!!!!!!
skipheartbeats 2 years ago
ADTR!!! heck yes
skipheartbeats 2 years ago
Loving ADTR at the moment!
Looceh 2 years ago
adtr!
xtheaudition 2 years ago
just because they have some popier songs dosnt mean there main stream bahahah
smurfy9409 2 years ago
how is ADTR not mainstream
mking9807 2 years ago
you guys are dead because you signed otep
xBang 2 years ago
Mainstream is shit. I've been supporting the underground for a while. Juuustt... Some underground bands I listen to end up goin mainstream. =/ I still stick with em though. Most are worth it.
XxFeArThEsPoRkXx 2 years ago
mainstream is shit
Ot3p rules!!!!!
andrew6xtreme 2 years ago 2
i wish mainstream died
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iHaveWizardPowers 2 years ago
fucking yes!
JessicaJawdropper 2 years ago
love OTEP!!!!
cyngirl 2 years ago 2
Too bad all three of those bands are mainstream.
ScreamoBBQ 2 years ago
None of them are mainstream dipshit
TheXShadowXSolider 2 years ago
a day to remember is mainstream but not emmure or otep
mayday992 2 years ago
Emmure's Felony is soooo br00tal. and not the good 22 exits away, rusted over wet dreams brutal. but like a hacksaw and pain olympics brutal :/
Flieguy69 2 years ago
wow really underground though i must say that emmure destryes both of those bands
keasaildsslog 2 years ago
ha adtr faggots? watevs guys and just so u know i like mainstream music. its good. ADTR rock ass and soo does mainstream music and all u underground emos are the fags not me so go jump.
Prettygooddrummer 2 years ago
emmure and adtr are both mainstream
Lorenzolemon 2 years ago
Yeah, sadly.. i remember when ADTR wasent such a poser magnet.. good days
unfreez 2 years ago
yeah, too many people like them. but idc ill still listen to them. ill just get less excited when i hear that other people like them
ElBocadillo 2 years ago
Hahahahahahahahahah
They called ADTR not mainstream AND THEN PLAYED DOWNFALL OF US ALL!! ADTR is gay now. They're mainstream and their music isn't even close to how good it used to be.
thedanswanson 2 years ago 3
ADTR is mainstream
i heard them on the radio just today
AZNROCKER 2 years ago
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Wow it goes from Otep to ADTR that's like going from awesome music to shit wow
emptybliss2 2 years ago
a faggot to remeber sucks.
go otep!
67mustangreg 2 years ago
Isnt it ironic how you say a "faggot" to remember sucks than say go Otep when Otep's gay? And by the way agree with you i hate a day to remember too, but the fact you said faggot pissed me off
emptybliss2 2 years ago 5
She's a lesbian. Not gay i.e. "faggot"...oh well
67mustangreg 2 years ago
ADTR FUCKIN RULES!!!
HoodlandSk8tr 2 years ago 5
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67mustangreg 2 years ago
Ok i like Otep's music but ADTR is better 4 me
HoodlandSk8tr 2 years ago
1958*
Michisayshi 2 years ago
lol. From Otep to ADTR...Am I the only one who kinda laughed at that transition? ^^;
blindedriku 2 years ago
i keep following
KluKluxKLAM 2 years ago
yeah i live near LA and everyone is obsessed with ADTR, but ive supported then since thier first record came out
redrocker6769 2 years ago
Where I live in LA; A Day To Remember, Otep, and Emmure IS mainstream music.
keymaster2 2 years ago 3
Really? Wow, not like that here
emptybliss2 2 years ago
EMMURE is fucking terrible
redrocker6769 2 years ago
otep is terrible they should stop
miwolverine94 2 years ago
I love ADTR. But they are turning mainstream. I hate to say it.
wohleralex 2 years ago 4
otep is awful
fangs1234 2 years ago
notice how they play five secconds of emmure maybe cause they know emmure fans are disapointed by their new album?
fallenboyproductions 2 years ago
goodbye to the gallows was fucking amazing...
the respect issue sucked as a whole, but it had good tracks...felony kinda sucks...period. hate the whining vocals.
MetalheadMatt2010 2 years ago 3
agreed..
jeffreythedrumma 2 years ago
One good thing is that they seem to be touring more. That means there's a higher chance they'll be visiting your area sometime in the near future.
XaiOPublications 2 years ago
i'm not saying their music isn't great. i love their new album.
I just don't see how Victory can promote them as being 'underground' anymore. They know better than anybody how big they have become.
Just my opinion.
Hate rate & appreciate.
XaiOPublications 2 years ago
90% of ADTR fans are those who have either seen one of their songs on a mainstream television music channel, or seen the huge advertisement campaigns put out by their record companies.
I bet only about 10% of the people who still listen to ADTR are those who have listened to them and supported them all the way. I've got all their albums, including their first EP, and saw them live last year, before Homesick came out.
XaiOPublications 2 years ago 3
Thank you. I hate that all the 9 year old girls and faggot fanboys are all into them.
AHeroWithin 2 years ago
Haha i'm pretty sure all of us do eh ;]
XaiOPublications 2 years ago
I heard of ADTR from good old youtube.
ss3goku24 2 years ago 2
otep has like no good songs
3M0musiq666 2 years ago
A day to remember really is kinda mainstream now...
AHeroWithin 2 years ago 3
Dude, all three bands are pretty mainstream depending on where you live, I recently moved schools, and at one school everyone knew ADTR and Emmure but not OTEP, but at my current school, everyone knows OTEP and quite possibly Emmure, but only a few people know ADTR...
9875a 2 years ago
ADTR! yes.
iiHorizon 2 years ago 6
emmures new stuff sucks.
i dont care wat anyone else thinks.
the whole cd is just effects and shit.
POCGUITAR 2 years ago
ADTR<33333333333
ADTRfan323 2 years ago
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SoWrongItsMarisa 2 years ago