That guy shouldn't have gone nutty and hit him but Christian's shouldn't be harassing people in public either.
If people want to hear people preach they can go to church or other Christian organizations. Just leave everyone else alone....please, we just want to enjoy our day without being emotionally manipulated into your religion
Witness to family and friends today with results. Remember Only the pure in heart will see God, those who seek Him with their whole heart. /watch?v=L_XQQyuCHlE
It was very telling when the young woman they spoke to in the street said, "Jesus, I thought I wasn't that bad a person." Until Ray Comfort and friends convinced her she was wrong. Doesn't anyone else find this offensive? Why do these people believe they have the right to threat us with Hell and call us sinners? It is purely revolting! In this age of knowledge and scientific understanding, it is amazing people hold on to belief from an age when nothing was understood.
@BelieveandtrustJesus No they don't teach that. You obviously know little about their ministry. If you're a Christian, then why is it you're attacking other Christians and trying to promote your own video?
CynicalSkeptic1 I think the point he ment is not that you have to be unintelligent, but that you deal more with a person's conscious, than with their arguments. Many well known Chrisitans are very intelligent; such as scientists - Faraday, Newton, Kepler, Galileo - men whose scientific studies found the basic laws upon which much of our science is built.. BTW. Even Darwin referred to God as the creator for he was an Anglican clergyman.
Sorry, but contrary to popular belief, Science does not support evolution. Evolution is a philospoical premise or 'theory', more so than a scientific one. The idea that any number of 'scientists' believe in something does not make it scientifc, nor true. Without the use of the scientific method to prove a theory, it remains but a theory, even if millions of brilliant people believe otherwise.
"And I've tried to look at the so-called "fallacies and contradictions" with an open mind, but they always end up being misinterpretations."
There are so many...there is NO WAY to rationalize them all. Living in a whale's belly for three days (BE SERIOUS), blowing horns to knock down walls (COME ON), talking donkeys and talking snakes and unicorns, a woman turning into salt, Tower of Babel, Noah's Ark, parting of the Red Sea, walking on water, water into wine, and on and on and on...
@CynicalSkeptic1 Typical "former Christian now atheist" playing dumb. Nowhere does it say that blowing horns knocked down walls. There are documented stories of people being swallowed by whales and living. The rest you mentioned are supernatural events. Uh, that's part of beveling in God. We do believe he has power beyond human comprehension. But you make it clear you are not atheist, just a disgruntled former servant. If you didn't believe, you wouldn't spend so much time and energy on here.
@eflint1 Also "Typical "former Christian now atheist" playing dumb. Nowhere does it say that blowing horns knocked down walls."
So the people shouted, and the trumpets were blown. As soon as the people heard the sound of the trumpet, the people shouted a great shout, and the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they captured the city.
So, either horns or people shouting...take your pick. They are equally ridiculous.
@eflint1 You also said "There are documented stories of people being swallowed by whales and living."
You seriously attempt to validate this story? I have never heard of someone being swallowed by a whale and live...but it doesn't matter. NO ONE HAS EVER SURVIVED IN A WHALE'S BELLY FOR THREE DAYS. PERIOD. END OF STORY.
@eflint1 You also said "But you make it clear you are not atheist, just a disgruntled former servant. If you didn't believe, you wouldn't spend so much time and energy on here."
No, Sir. I attempt to curtail ignorance where it rears it's ugly head. I am sorry that you didn't care for my factual information. Obviously I struck a chord with you. But you are the one who asked me to continue.
@eflint1 As I said before....I truly don't care what you believe...my posts aren't meant for 'your conversion'. They are meant for open-minded people who might be 'on the fence'. Hopefully they will read BOTH of our collective comments and they can come to an objective and rational conclusion. I feel completely confident in my posts.
@eflint1 By the way...how deluded can you be? I posted more than twenty comments with specific and detailed information...and you respond by telling me that I'm not an Atheist?
You said "If you didn't believe, you wouldn't spend so much time and energy on here."
That is beyond ridiculous. How could you possibly read all of my comments and come to that conclusion?
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOUR GOD EXISTS. Is that clear enough?
(From 2001) 47 of the last 50 Nobel Prize winning scientists (in life sciences) had utilized evolutionary theory for their predictions and hypotheses. 47 out of 50!!! Google it.
On a side note: Religiosity and intellect are inversely related. There have been many studies done and the higher your intelligence then the less likely you will gravitate towards any type of religion. Even if you Google "Least likely to believe in God" then the predominant response is "Intelligent people".
Be sure to utilize any scientific discoveries and conveniences which are so prevalent in modern society including computers, flat screen television sets, microwave ovens, cellular phones, MANY medical advances,etc.
But reject evolution even though it is supported by many of the same scientists (480,000+) which brought you these inventions. It is also UTILIZED DAILY in Molecular Biology, Genetics, and other medical sciences. Creation is supported by less than 900 scientists. Support Creation!
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Sorry, but contrary to popular belief, Science does not support evolution. Evolution is a philospoical premise or 'theory', more so than a scientific one. The idea that any number of 'scientists' believe in something does not make it scientifc, nor true. Without the use of the scientific method to prove a theory, it remains but a theory, even if millions of brilliant people believe otherwise.
@KypMatt had the brilliant minds of the past had access to the information available in modern times, many of them would not have been religious adherents.
@KypMatt A little education in the sciences would clear things up for you.
A Scientific Theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena. Scientists don't "believe" in the Theory of Evolution, Gravity, Electromagnetism, etc.
Faith is a belief in something despite there being no logical verification and/or absence of evidence.
@KypMatt I am sorry but you are completely incorrect. Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. Evolution is agreed upon by the vast majority of relevant scientists (completely dwarfing any contradictory viewpoint)....but it is ALSO FREQUENTLY UTILIZED in numerous fields of scientific study. I will post a few (and I have many more) examples of exactly how evolution is ONLY rejected when it conflicts with religious bias.
@KypMatt In fact, EVOLUTION is being put to practical use in industry and widely used on a DAILY basis by researchers in medicine, biochemistry, molecular biology, and genetics to both formulate hypotheses about biological systems for the purposes of experimental design, as well as to rationalize observed data and prepare applications.
@KypMatt Belief in creationism is inversely correlated to education; only 22% of those with post-graduate degrees believe in strict creationism. In 2006, New Scientist reported that almost 2/3 of Americans believe they share less than half their genes with "monkeys", when in fact the figure is between 95--99% depending on the primate.
@KypMatt The level of support for creationism among relevant scientists is minimal. Only 700 out of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists gave credence to creationism in 1987,[21] representing about 0.146% of relevant scientists. Darwin Dissenters represent about 0.0157% of the US biologists that existed in 1999.
@KypMatt Many Creationists prefer to state that Micro-evolution is valid and Macro-evolution is not. The only reason that Micro-E is accepted by Creationists is because it has been proven repeatedly under controlled conditions and there are many examples of Micro-E that we can view in everyday life. Macro-E is not accepted since it would then be confirming that Creation was inaccurate. (cont)
@KypMatt "Micro-evolution" and "Macro-evolution" are not recognized as sub-groups of evolution by the biological scientific community...there is only "evolution". PubMed(dot)gov reports that there are 179 publications on "Macro-E", 341 publications on "Micro-E" and 247,308 publications on "evolution". Even the "platypus" has 414 publications...so there are more articles about one animal than Micro-E or Macro-E.
@KypMatt We cannot possibly 'prove' what is considered Macro-E because these changes take place over tens or hundreds of thousands of years. Yet, there is no mechanism which limits genetic change over time. What the two categories truly signify is the limits of any particular human's *belief*. This would be considered a non-existent division between 'believable' and 'unbelievable' based on religious 'faith' from a 2,000 year old holy book.
@KypMatt Atomic Theory, Theory of Matter and Energy, Cell Theory, Germ Theory, Theory of Plate Tectonics, Theory of Evolution, Theory of Quantum Mechanics, Theory of Relativity, Theory of Light Energy, Theory of Electromagnetism, Theory of Radioactivity, Theory of Molecular Bonds, Theory of Homeostasis, Theory of Gravity, etc..
These are all theories also...but only evolution and the Big Bang are disputed. The reason is because they conflict with a 2,000 year old holy book.
@KypMatt OUTSIDE OF SCIENCE, 'theory' means speculation or 'unproven conjecture'. The definition for 'theory' in a scientific context is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate FACTS and LAWS and tested hypotheses"; 'true in fact and theory'." (cont)
@KypMatt Here is another example: "a logical, systematic set of principles or explanation that has undergone testing or validation from careful observations and HAS STOOD UP AGAINST ATTEMPTS TO PROVE IT FALSE. A scientific theory can be used to make a variety of predictions of what will happen under different circumstances."
@KypMatt As you can see, theory is defined differently in science. It doesn't go FROM a THEORY and get 'promoted' TO a LAW. You cannot say "It's ONLY a theory" when you are speaking of the scientific meaning. I have a large amount of additional evidence that I can post if you would still like to continue debating the validity of evolution. Evolution is a fact...there is no way to dispute it. Let me know if you would like more detailed information with specific sources.
@KypMatt If your God actually does exist (and I would NEVER say with 100% certainty that he doesn't) then he most certainly utilized evolution in his creation. If you don't care to debate then I understand (no offense meant)...but ignoring the information doesn't make it disappear...it is just as relevant and just as accurate.
@CynicalSkeptic1 Could you please give me evidence tangible evidence of the Big Bang theory or evidence for Macro Evolution? I'd appreciate it if you kept the insults, and lists of scientific terms that explain nothing or offer actual proof. I'd like evidence please thank you!
@badpanda84 Thank you for your response, however as I assumed there would be an insult or sarcasm of some sort. Why does that always seem to permeate the responses of atheists? I did what you asked by googling transitional fossils. I went to both the main page, and the list and what I found was a bit troubling.
Respond to this video... The transitions within species is agreed upon by all. From one to another is the problem and that was very shoddy. a snake a lizard have commonalities does this mean they were each other? One could even argue this too would classify as transition within. The same was done with the other creatures. I live in San Antonio is there a specific Museum you recommend? Secondly there is no evidence given for the BIG BANG...I await thank you!
@christologist "... The transitions within species is agreed upon by all"
Here is the problem though. even when we do find transitional fossils ( and we have) creationist just turn around as say -- that's not transitional its a entirely new speices.
Admittly the Big Bang is just a theory -- I'll let someone with a bit more knowledge on that explain that ( but unforntaely there will probably be scientific terms)
@christologist Asking someone to give evidence for evoultion without using scientific terms is a bit like asking someone to prove christainity without using the bible.. give me some tangible evidence that chirstainity is true..
OH wait you can't ( even God by definition isnt tangible)-- at least with evoultion we have the fossils
@badpanda84 This is not what I said. Atheists/Evolutionists seem to be satisfied to rattle of a list of scientific terms without explaining how the offer proof. if yo asked me prove that there is no morality without God and i said, objective truth, internal moral compass, 10 commandments, etc. would that be sufficient or would you want both explanation of terms and/or how that proves anything? See my point. Big Bang evidence as well please. Thank you!
@christologist Sir, as I said in my prior posts...the biological scientific community doesn't recognize "Micro-evolution" or "Macro-evolution". There is only evolution. Simply do an internet search and you can confirm everything that I have posted.
@CynicalSkeptic1 I don't know if you can speak for the entire scientific community but your position is well taken. All support is within species and not from one to another. Unfortunately the only evidence is within species. I also ask you how did intelligence come into existence? How does your beliefs explain such things?
@christologist I apologize for the delayed response but apparently your comment went in my junk email folder. If you insist on stating inaccurate beliefs such as "All support is within species and not from one to another" then there is no reason to continue. It is ridiculous to attempt to supplant scientific knowledge with beliefs which originate from a 2,000 year old holy book. You can believe whatever you wish. Good luck to you.
Don't forget to utilize Kirk Cameron's method of "Circumnavigating the Intellect". This would appear to be a useful procedure for acquiring (and maintaining) religious belief.
Boy I love these two brothers, their way of witnessing is so simple but effective because it clearly shows why we need Jesus. Jesus IS the key ... without repentance your eternal destination is a dreadful place.
I urge you - consider the message, accept what Jesus did for YOU on the cross. Jesis is real. Jesus is Lord and He's coming back -
Get right with God! Tell Him you're sorry for your sins and mean it. Time is so short, you can't afford to delay any longer.
@MrNexus8 They convinced me that I should now live my life for Christ. I will begin by murdering anyone I see who is working on the Sabbath (Home Depot and Lowes for starters). If my children are unruly then I will take them to the edge of town and stone them to death (you don't want the stench of decaying offspring in the MIDDLE of town). Also, I am going to submit the 'biblical leprosy cleansing' procedure to science since I am certain that they have failed to recognize it's validity.
We have rights? You don't have the right to hit the servents of God Almighty for trying to show you the way, the truth, and the life. You don't have a right to hit anyone at all actually, unless it's in self defence or defence of others. Free exercise thereof is in the constitution, being a perverted crossdressing homosexual is not.
John 3:7 You Must Be Born Again, originalwriting.ie Use this book to share the gospel to unbelievers. Contains prophecy related topics concerning Israel and Christ. This book also speaks about spirit mediums and the false teaching of purgatory. Also covered are the scientific facts discovered in the bible long before modern science. This book, God willing, will help you win souls.
It's funny watching Ray and Kurt get harrassed and they should be. I don't stand on the corner of the street shouting my atheist views at people, trying to make them feel guilty. Accept my views and you won't burn in hell for all of eternity. Some loving God. I am going to give you free will but if you chose wrong you'll suffer forever in hell
You might be able to get away with harrassing people in the streets in America but I'm with 'Billy the transvesitite' (Wow theres a sentence I never thought Id hear myself say. We have rights in our countries). If you dont want to get abused in Jeruselem dont force your opinions on others have some respect for other human beings you self righteous jerks.
This is the only episode I like--epic! Not that iIcondone assault, but...aw fuck it, this rocks! On a side note, I always felt some creepiness about bananaman and crocoduck's relationship. I get the feeling there may be some weird homo stuff going on in the name of the cumming of the lord...there's just something weird about their dynamic & how they look at each other.
Anyway, if you wanna see some real violence look at Christians during town hall rallies, pro-life rallies, anti-abortion terrorism, & the like. And let's not forget the glorious history of christian violence.
But that's OK bc these ppl have every right to step up to people, invade their private space, & impose themselves on them to let them know that if they don't believe what they tell them to believe they are evil & are going straight to hell, deserving of eternal torment forever. Yup. makes perfect sense. Yup, anger is an inappropriate response to such fear, guilt, & bullying tactics. That's right, praise the lord.
I love their message. Please everyone, pass this video along to your loved ones. Heck even to people who you may not even get along with very well! This is a message of forgiveness. Also I kind of want to fuck Kurt Cameron in the mouth with my penis. Is that bad?
@infinitemika: It is sad that that happens. Just shows how many Christian's do not have true saving faith. I question the "christians" who live like the world
I find it amazing that some people don't understand "God's Will" and or the freedom of choice that God gave to all of us...making our individual sins our own responsibility and our responsibility to seek God's forgiveness / Salvation.
"people hate you becouse you pull dum-ass stunts like crokoduck and bananaman "
yaaawn
no, u hate him, & all other "atheists" & "cute little evos" cause he battled ur religion with common sense that makes you mad...cause u cannot escape the fact of God....il pray for ya man
"but believing that a man was sent on a suicide mission to clear us of our sins then flew up to heaven is irrational and idiotic."
coming from a true scholar...obviuosly u have a compete & serious understanding of the bible,& life of jesus. Wow, if I could only be able to make opnions on things w/out knowledge like u....can u direct me to all the 4 min utube vids, zeigist, &A & E bible specials youve watched to become such a great scholar?
Lord Jesus Said if you wont COnfess Me Before Men i will feel shame on you Before my Father in Heaven.. COme On Born again Believers CONFESS Lord JESUS Before me especially with you friends Read Romans 10 .. DOnt Fear Men who cannot destroy soul Rather Fear GOD who is able to Destroy Both soul and Body.. GOD IS LOVE.. HE PAID THE GREAT PRICE FOR YOUR SINS WAKE UP WAKE UP.. Speak about LORD JESUS ANd HIM ALONE HE IS MIGHTY GLORY TO HIM HALLELUJAH. PRAISE JESUS KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS!
Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishiness with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their own craftiness", "The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile."
Jesus died and paid for your sins? How can this be a viable moral system? What kind of religion has an innocent person take on the wrongdoing of someone else and then hold it up as and accomplishment? Take responsiblity for your own acts. That's morality. Christian moral responsiblity is like putting Jeffrey Dahmer on trial, convicting him and then sending his father to prison. Jeff; your off the hook.
You have a wrong doctrine. Jesus willingly came to die for the sins of man. When you accept Jesus Christ into your heart, you are taking complete responsibility for your sins. You have to humble yourself and say, God I have sinned against you, please forgive me. That is taking on the responsibility for your sin. God then turns from justice to mercy to forgive you of your sins. It's amazing.
but I dont get it. When you become born again dont you get to do anything you want from that time forth. Rape, kill, steal, lie, use drugs, etc. and were still forgiven? I want to be born again so I can do these things and not have to repent. Can someone help me become born again? Being born again really sounds pretty good to me. I've been suckered trying to live my life in tune with the bible for all these years. It time to get saved so I can start sinning.
marcopolo8765: being saved does not mean that you get a license to sin. To truly be born again means that you REPENT(turn away from) of all sin to God and trust in His Son, Jesus, as your only means of salvation. After this, God will give you a new heart and a new mind to follow Him. You won't want to sin afterwards.
hummm. If that were true then why is that every born again I know. Even when I was one. Are the biggest con men.Biggest liars, and most out for themselve people I have ever met. If God somehow changed them. I would hate to see what there life was like before. My own uncle a BA pastor for 30 years. Has sexual relations outside of wedlock. Im tired of seeing people I know become BA and then shorty afterwards O.D on drugs. And its all accepted. the hipocracy goes only so far. You still want to sin?
Your arugement is weak. It you reflect on your life in the past week and are honest, you have enough hypocrisy in your own life let alone having to look at other people. When a person experiences a true born again experience, God give a new heart that has new desires. Instead of wanting to please ourselves (all the sin we can eat) there is a new desire to please God. Not perfection.
Yeah but I dont know any born agains that are not severely corrupt. See I have been resisting sin and following the teachings of the holy bible for most of my life. And all my born again friends do drugs, steal, cheat, lie, have sex outside of their marriage. And will do just about anything to con people out of money. And they still get the same reward I get! I have been Con-ed. I should have become born again years ago so I can be free to do as I please. That new heart doesn't seem to lastlong
Unforunatly, they are the product of a man-centered Gospel that lacks REPENTANCE. Repentance requires that we turn away from all known sin and towards God. If there is no transformation I would question the authenticity of their so-called "born-again" experience.
Well i spent 2 years in Windsor Crossing the st louis areas leading Evangelical Christian church. With services held tues-sunday. Every 2 hours. It took a production crew of over 30 people to run the show. Thats just behind the scenes. I also spent about a year in a little local non denominational Christian chruch with only about 50 members. I can not say that in 3 years I found 2 people that were not extremely corrupt. Do as I say not as I do types. Maybe its different where your at but i think
I would encourage you to consider Romans chapters 6-8. Paul speaks of the freedom we have been given in Christ and not to use it as a reason to sin. He talks about the on-going struggle to resist temptation and the war that wages in us all. And he speaks in chapter 8 about how to walk in the Spirit and NOT in the flesh. I would encourage you to read Pagan Chrisitanity by Frank Viola. It will open your eyes to the reality of the modern chruch and how far we have fallen away from God's plan.
I am aware of far we have fallen away. Thats why I joined a church that follows the bible almost to a T. Not just talking about it but actually practicing the things contained within the holy bible. The LDS church is the closest thing I have found to God. Never had the spirit in my life for as long as I have been a practicing LDS. I know its because we follow the holy bible.
if someone claimed to be born again and still wanted to do these evil things, then they should doubt their salvation. If they truly had an encounter with Jesus Christ, their life would be radically changed. You will know them by their fruit!
Exactly, Thats why i became a latter day saint. the only church in the world that actually follows the bible and has serious penalties for when you break commandments. And lets face it the fruits of the latter day saint church are undeniably far better than any other. Great point. I don't feel so bad about following the gospel now thanks for the advice.
Did you know the Bible is written by murderers, adulturers, backsliders, and that Jesus' own disciple denied him three times (Peter)?
I dont know where you meet these corrupt people who call themselves Christian, but YOU CANT FAULT A RELIGION BY ITS HERITICS!!!
Thats a logical fallacy, and its besides the point. Someones worldview does NOT become "truer" the nicer that person gets, and I wont accept your gospel because you have a nicer smile. My faith is based on objective evidence!
Yea and theres also some pretty great people who wrote in it as well. Moses, Abraham, Isaiah. You have to take the good with the bad and try not to lose the overall message the bible presents. Many born again new age churches are doing away with the old testament all together. If this is the case in your church. Im very sorry. Objective evidence you base a belief inGod upon? shouldn't you be basing your belief in God upon a relationship with your God? Personal knowledge, experiences etc?
And yes, personal knowledge and experiences are part of the evidence im talking about. Im with you on that.
The problem I have is when people consider themselves better than other people. That is irrelevant. The Bible says we are ALL SINNERS before God.
Am I bearing good fruit? I do my best with Gods help. Hes given me a new heart & new desires. Im not comparing myself to other people, but to JESUS CHRIST. Im a sinner saved by grace! I dont deserve Heaven!
Humm, well who have you talked to that considers themself better than you? Ego and pride are things that are definitely not of God. God asks us to come to him with a broken heart and a contrite spirit. When you follow God and his commandments, and obey the laws of repentance. Ego and pride really have use in that area. Usually in my experience when someone is acting as if they are better than you. Its usually because they are trying to hide there faults instead of faceing them.
If you truly feel that you do not deserve heaven then why would you want to go somewhere where you don't think you belong? Jesus died for us so that we can have eternal life. If it wasn't for the atonement that he made we would all be lost. As Jesus arose and in his final words on this earth he said. I know go to prepare a place for you in my fathers kingdom. Well doesn't that kind of tell you that, Thats where we belong? If we believe in him Yes we are saved. Without a doubt. Its his promise.
It seems kirk and ray have lost all touch with human emotions. They seem like robots.
If you guys want to believe thats cool, but think if me and james randi stopped and hassled you in the street. Talking about how there is no god and your being a harmfull self centered propagandist.
Would you be angry? Of course, because it is not my place to randomly hassle you and demand you believe what i do.
But they do this and seem shocked they recieve a poor reaction.
Complete failure...? what kind of man gives his life for his friends. I guess not a failure. Your ignorance is only exceeded by your pride.
I know courageous men and women of honor, your understanding of honor, courage is squat! How could you say failure? You mock the very air you breath. God is truly merciful. God offers you life and you spit into the wind... I'd say repent that means to stop turn around and change your ways and beg, Yes beg God for mercy! You have no other hope. Listen!
You should of read the reply from the guy I wrote it too, you are much more generous... but I know he read it... if you have any questions about the christian faith... feel free to ask.
Your argument breaks down at a crucial point. You say love; for sure! For the analogy to be correct YOU with intent drove into the iceberg after clear instruction on how not to and still are offered a seat on the lifeboat and the fact that there is even a lifeboat... is kind.
While a straw man argument may work as a rhetorical technique—and succeed in persuading people—it carries little or no real evidential weight, since the actual argument has not been refuted. From Wikipedia.
The devil was created by God, not mankind. That's what the iceberg represented. There was no reason to deliberately create what God knew would wreak such havoc, yet God apparently does so anyway (???). We did not "with intent" drive into the icberg, it blindsided us.
Also, what sense does it make to tell something, that is in all honestly incapable of telling the difference between right & wrong, not to do a certain thing -- because it's wrong?
The Devil and his angles had choice & you have the same. All Angles are not evil. You can choose as did the one you serve.
I'll not compare God's miracles versus Satan's lies-the issue is not God's kingdom and Satan's lair. The real comparison is the condition of your soul & the condition of mine. We know now; choose Good! My friend, one day they're coming for you those spirits will lay claim to the rights they own to your soul. Then what? I believe..! No! Find the life boat now!
Well, I could go into how free will doesn't exist in the eyes of an omniscient being but, whatever.
You can call whatever you want good if it so pleases you. I however, know that if I were a parent, absolutely NOTHING could ever make me destroy my own children with a lake of fire. I'd find some other way.
People suck, yeah. But there are others out there that love far more than the God I'm getting from you. I'll take "God of infinite love & forgiveness" to it's full definition, thank you.
Huh. Saul torturing & killing xtians just for having different beliefs sounds horrible to these guys, yet when their Yahweh does the exact same thing to Bhuddists, Atheists, Hindus, New Agers, Taoists, & Wiccans, they praise him for it and call him loving...
Does anyone else find anything weird with this? /:|
Oh, that's just a shorthand way of writing "Christians" because an X is a "cris"-cross, thus you get the whole "Chris" sound only with one letter rather than four. It just saves space is all.
So basically you feel ok to judge the Judge, but if He judges, then not so good. I hope you could consider that the Yahweh is the same as Jesus.
That Saul, he did what he understood in blind zeal yet when his eyes opened - he was a new man. That is why Saul became Paul and then followed in the Way. I don't expect it to make sense because you may think you're a good person, just like Saul, I use too, but by my standard and Saul's are not the Judges. See that's what matters.
"...consider that the Yahweh is the same as Jesus."
If you were on the Titanic, & the Captain Himself selflessly gave you His seat on the lifeboat, you would call that a loving act, yes?
But what if He had magically created that iceberg in the first place, foresaw the hour & coordinates of the collision, could have EASILY steered the ship clear & averted the whole fiasco -- yet for some reason, didn't. Then He blames us for what happened. Would you call him a loving Captain?
@Vampiro413 John 7:7 (KJV) "The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil." the world hates God because He is true, and the only reason Christians get rejected when they share the gospel to the lost is because it's true, the world is a dark place my friend, and when i say that, i don't mean anyone in particular is "bad" we're all sinners, it's in our nature to sin, but thank the Lord he sent His only begotten son to die on the cross for us.
@IAmForgiven92 [1/2] No IAmForgiven92, that is actually incorrect. I am a solitary Wiccan, and I'd like to explain the real reason why you guys are rejected all the time. The world doesn't hate God or Jesus -- it hates arrogance, blatant irrationality, willful ignorance, and sabotaged consciences. According to the bible, a serial rapist/murderer will be admitted into Paradise for *belief* in what is basically a fairytale, while a kind-hearted & harmless guy who doesn't will be tortured forever.
@IAmForgiven92 [2/2] What father does that??? That is not justice -- that system is absolute insanity and pure evil. This is why the world screams at you IAmForgiven92. You assert, without evidence, that the bible is true. That alone is extremely arrogant. What's worse is the holocaust it extols, which you actually maintain is just. The gospel is a putrid, depraved, anti-human, morally bankrupt theology, and the hostility it receives is the world testifying to the fact that the gospel is evil.
@Vampiro413 2Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith; not by sight) I don't expect anyone who is not a Christian to understand what I believe, and yes the bible is anti-human, it's the very word's of God, written by man, who obeyed Him, not everything in the bible seems all fun and games, it's often dark and even depressing sometimes, but it's something I study and learn from to grow and mature, and God the Father, is just and merciful, it's not if anyone's been "good or bad" its a matter of faith
@IAmForgiven92 I do know what you believe; I was once a born again xtian myself . I understand your theology's story arc. I just want to make sure you understand my points too. I don't believe in bible, but I don't have to in order to assess its content. A father who throws his own children into a lake of fire, to be tortured forever, because they didn't believe he existed, after he hid himself from all sight, is a sick, twisted, demented, evil monster.
@Vampiro413 "A father who throws his own children into a lake of fire, to be tortured forever, because they didn't believe he existed, after he hid himself from all sight, is a sick, twisted, demented, evil monster" Those who violate their consciences are NOT "his children". God does not throw his children into hell. Even an atheist has a conscience. It was placed their by God.
@IAmForgiven92 And yet, that's what xtians assert is perfectly loving, just, wise, and holy. There is no justice in rewarding/punishing people over something as trivial and arbitrary as faith. A god that does that is evil & that's why it angers people.
I'm sure you're a very nice person IAmForgiven92, and I'm not trying to be mean (I apologize if I sound it), but I'm just trying to explain why xtians are rejected without sacrificing clarity or severity. I hope you understand.
@Vampiro413 Who says he punishes them over "faith". He will punish them for SIN, for violating their own conscience. You have violated your conscience. THAT is what you'll be punished for unless you repent on HIS terms.
@Vampiro413 God has made a way for all of those people you listed , and for YOU to escape his wrath. If you reject that escape, then it is your fault. HE calls the shots, not us. He is the only true, HOLY, and just being in existence. So you'd better find out what's in YOUR life that will incur his wrath and repent of it. Sorry, but I'm not going to tell you, "Jesus loves you" and all that jazz. Yes, he loves you more than you see, but until you understand his wrath, you'll not accept his love
@eflint1 Your comment was filled with a vast quantity of effluvium...perhaps you should offer a disclaimer in your next one.
You said "He (God) is the only true, HOLY, and just being in existence."
The biblical God is anything but just....a mass murderer and a child rapist can accept Jesus on their death beds and they will end up in exactly the same place as Mother Theresa. If this is your concept of a 'just' God then I submit that your interpretation of justice is severely flawed.
@CynicalSkeptic1 Why didn't you just ask to begin with about deathbed salivations? Truthfully, the "child rapist" you described would probably be an atheist, agnostic, satanist to begin with. He has no fear of God if he raped a child. He has a seared conscience and wouldn't even be thinking of Christ on his deathbed.
@eflint1 Sir, what you stated is completely ridiculous. The vast majority of violent criminals are religious. Atheists represent approximately 8% to 16% of the United States population but are sorely lacking from the prison populace where they are only 0.21% of the inmates. So, what you espouse is COMPLETELY contradictory to actual fact. Atheists are FAR LESS LIKELY to commit violent crimes than religious people. Do an internet search.
@CynicalSkeptic1 I was not implying that atheists were more like ly to kill someone. My point was that any such person as you described (child rapists) would be devoid of God in his thinking at death and would not have a "deathbed salvation" anyway. However, you do seem to be trying to build some ridiculous case that religous people are all murderers.. True, some are. Islam even condones it. But neither Ray Comfort nor I are pushing "religion". We're preaching "changed hearts" through Christ
@eflint1 I simply indicated factual evidence that religious people appear to be more likely to commit violent crimes. So, your hypothesis that child rapists wouldn't have 'deathbed salvations' is immaterial. Most violent criminals ARE religious. That is a fact. So, these violent criminals don't need to have deathbed salvations....most are ALREADY religious and have already 'given their lives to Christ'.
@eflint1 Leading a philanthropic life has never been a contingency for admission to heaven. The deeds that you perform in your lifetime (good or bad) are truly inconsequential in God's eyes. The only actions with which God is concerned is 'asking forgiveness' for your sins and accepting him as your savior....that's it. So God's primary all-encompassing demand is acceptance...and has absolutely nothing to do with your 'sins'.
Anyone know if there is a full witnessing clip with the lady @ 2:50?,
if there is please send me the link,
God Bless
shpikieboy1 1 week ago
That guy shouldn't have gone nutty and hit him but Christian's shouldn't be harassing people in public either.
If people want to hear people preach they can go to church or other Christian organizations. Just leave everyone else alone....please, we just want to enjoy our day without being emotionally manipulated into your religion
LadyAmaltheaUnicorn 3 months ago
Omg I wad wondering if it was the right show at the beginning lol. Eff long intros
bellacinderellakk 3 months ago
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MMr7777 4 months ago
It was very telling when the young woman they spoke to in the street said, "Jesus, I thought I wasn't that bad a person." Until Ray Comfort and friends convinced her she was wrong. Doesn't anyone else find this offensive? Why do these people believe they have the right to threat us with Hell and call us sinners? It is purely revolting! In this age of knowledge and scientific understanding, it is amazing people hold on to belief from an age when nothing was understood.
bboots100 4 months ago
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not really..everyone needs to see where they really are in life. Most people think we are WAY better than we really are. That's prideful.
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bboots100 4 months ago
@BelieveandtrustJesus No they don't teach that. You obviously know little about their ministry. If you're a Christian, then why is it you're attacking other Christians and trying to promote your own video?
cobyjak 6 months ago
A real boxing ring
kraqore79 7 months ago
staged i think it would be all over papers news and media if this happened
johndebbra 9 months ago
CynicalSkeptic1 I think the point he ment is not that you have to be unintelligent, but that you deal more with a person's conscious, than with their arguments. Many well known Chrisitans are very intelligent; such as scientists - Faraday, Newton, Kepler, Galileo - men whose scientific studies found the basic laws upon which much of our science is built.. BTW. Even Darwin referred to God as the creator for he was an Anglican clergyman.
KypMatt 10 months ago
Sorry, but contrary to popular belief, Science does not support evolution. Evolution is a philospoical premise or 'theory', more so than a scientific one. The idea that any number of 'scientists' believe in something does not make it scientifc, nor true. Without the use of the scientific method to prove a theory, it remains but a theory, even if millions of brilliant people believe otherwise.
KypMatt 10 months ago
"And I've tried to look at the so-called "fallacies and contradictions" with an open mind, but they always end up being misinterpretations."
There are so many...there is NO WAY to rationalize them all. Living in a whale's belly for three days (BE SERIOUS), blowing horns to knock down walls (COME ON), talking donkeys and talking snakes and unicorns, a woman turning into salt, Tower of Babel, Noah's Ark, parting of the Red Sea, walking on water, water into wine, and on and on and on...
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@CynicalSkeptic1 Typical "former Christian now atheist" playing dumb. Nowhere does it say that blowing horns knocked down walls. There are documented stories of people being swallowed by whales and living. The rest you mentioned are supernatural events. Uh, that's part of beveling in God. We do believe he has power beyond human comprehension. But you make it clear you are not atheist, just a disgruntled former servant. If you didn't believe, you wouldn't spend so much time and energy on here.
eflint1 10 months ago
@eflint1 Also "Typical "former Christian now atheist" playing dumb. Nowhere does it say that blowing horns knocked down walls."
So the people shouted, and the trumpets were blown. As soon as the people heard the sound of the trumpet, the people shouted a great shout, and the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they captured the city.
So, either horns or people shouting...take your pick. They are equally ridiculous.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@eflint1 You also said "There are documented stories of people being swallowed by whales and living."
You seriously attempt to validate this story? I have never heard of someone being swallowed by a whale and live...but it doesn't matter. NO ONE HAS EVER SURVIVED IN A WHALE'S BELLY FOR THREE DAYS. PERIOD. END OF STORY.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@eflint1 You also said "But you make it clear you are not atheist, just a disgruntled former servant. If you didn't believe, you wouldn't spend so much time and energy on here."
No, Sir. I attempt to curtail ignorance where it rears it's ugly head. I am sorry that you didn't care for my factual information. Obviously I struck a chord with you. But you are the one who asked me to continue.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@eflint1 As I said before....I truly don't care what you believe...my posts aren't meant for 'your conversion'. They are meant for open-minded people who might be 'on the fence'. Hopefully they will read BOTH of our collective comments and they can come to an objective and rational conclusion. I feel completely confident in my posts.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@eflint1 Just to confirm...there are NUMEROUS ATROCITIES in the Bible...ignoring them doesn't make them disappear.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@eflint1 By the way...how deluded can you be? I posted more than twenty comments with specific and detailed information...and you respond by telling me that I'm not an Atheist?
You said "If you didn't believe, you wouldn't spend so much time and energy on here."
That is beyond ridiculous. How could you possibly read all of my comments and come to that conclusion?
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOUR GOD EXISTS. Is that clear enough?
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
(From 2001) 47 of the last 50 Nobel Prize winning scientists (in life sciences) had utilized evolutionary theory for their predictions and hypotheses. 47 out of 50!!! Google it.
On a side note: Religiosity and intellect are inversely related. There have been many studies done and the higher your intelligence then the less likely you will gravitate towards any type of religion. Even if you Google "Least likely to believe in God" then the predominant response is "Intelligent people".
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
Be sure to utilize any scientific discoveries and conveniences which are so prevalent in modern society including computers, flat screen television sets, microwave ovens, cellular phones, MANY medical advances,etc.
But reject evolution even though it is supported by many of the same scientists (480,000+) which brought you these inventions. It is also UTILIZED DAILY in Molecular Biology, Genetics, and other medical sciences. Creation is supported by less than 900 scientists. Support Creation!
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Sorry, but contrary to popular belief, Science does not support evolution. Evolution is a philospoical premise or 'theory', more so than a scientific one. The idea that any number of 'scientists' believe in something does not make it scientifc, nor true. Without the use of the scientific method to prove a theory, it remains but a theory, even if millions of brilliant people believe otherwise.
KypMatt 10 months ago
@KypMatt had the brilliant minds of the past had access to the information available in modern times, many of them would not have been religious adherents.
cruciphile 9 months ago
@KypMatt A little education in the sciences would clear things up for you.
A Scientific Theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena. Scientists don't "believe" in the Theory of Evolution, Gravity, Electromagnetism, etc.
Faith is a belief in something despite there being no logical verification and/or absence of evidence.
jknengr796 9 months ago
@KypMatt I am sorry but you are completely incorrect. Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. Evolution is agreed upon by the vast majority of relevant scientists (completely dwarfing any contradictory viewpoint)....but it is ALSO FREQUENTLY UTILIZED in numerous fields of scientific study. I will post a few (and I have many more) examples of exactly how evolution is ONLY rejected when it conflicts with religious bias.
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@KypMatt In fact, EVOLUTION is being put to practical use in industry and widely used on a DAILY basis by researchers in medicine, biochemistry, molecular biology, and genetics to both formulate hypotheses about biological systems for the purposes of experimental design, as well as to rationalize observed data and prepare applications.
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@KypMatt Belief in creationism is inversely correlated to education; only 22% of those with post-graduate degrees believe in strict creationism. In 2006, New Scientist reported that almost 2/3 of Americans believe they share less than half their genes with "monkeys", when in fact the figure is between 95--99% depending on the primate.
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@KypMatt The level of support for creationism among relevant scientists is minimal. Only 700 out of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists gave credence to creationism in 1987,[21] representing about 0.146% of relevant scientists. Darwin Dissenters represent about 0.0157% of the US biologists that existed in 1999.
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@KypMatt Many Creationists prefer to state that Micro-evolution is valid and Macro-evolution is not. The only reason that Micro-E is accepted by Creationists is because it has been proven repeatedly under controlled conditions and there are many examples of Micro-E that we can view in everyday life. Macro-E is not accepted since it would then be confirming that Creation was inaccurate. (cont)
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@KypMatt "Micro-evolution" and "Macro-evolution" are not recognized as sub-groups of evolution by the biological scientific community...there is only "evolution". PubMed(dot)gov reports that there are 179 publications on "Macro-E", 341 publications on "Micro-E" and 247,308 publications on "evolution". Even the "platypus" has 414 publications...so there are more articles about one animal than Micro-E or Macro-E.
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@KypMatt We cannot possibly 'prove' what is considered Macro-E because these changes take place over tens or hundreds of thousands of years. Yet, there is no mechanism which limits genetic change over time. What the two categories truly signify is the limits of any particular human's *belief*. This would be considered a non-existent division between 'believable' and 'unbelievable' based on religious 'faith' from a 2,000 year old holy book.
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@KypMatt Atomic Theory, Theory of Matter and Energy, Cell Theory, Germ Theory, Theory of Plate Tectonics, Theory of Evolution, Theory of Quantum Mechanics, Theory of Relativity, Theory of Light Energy, Theory of Electromagnetism, Theory of Radioactivity, Theory of Molecular Bonds, Theory of Homeostasis, Theory of Gravity, etc..
These are all theories also...but only evolution and the Big Bang are disputed. The reason is because they conflict with a 2,000 year old holy book.
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@KypMatt OUTSIDE OF SCIENCE, 'theory' means speculation or 'unproven conjecture'. The definition for 'theory' in a scientific context is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate FACTS and LAWS and tested hypotheses"; 'true in fact and theory'." (cont)
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@KypMatt Here is another example: "a logical, systematic set of principles or explanation that has undergone testing or validation from careful observations and HAS STOOD UP AGAINST ATTEMPTS TO PROVE IT FALSE. A scientific theory can be used to make a variety of predictions of what will happen under different circumstances."
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@KypMatt As you can see, theory is defined differently in science. It doesn't go FROM a THEORY and get 'promoted' TO a LAW. You cannot say "It's ONLY a theory" when you are speaking of the scientific meaning. I have a large amount of additional evidence that I can post if you would still like to continue debating the validity of evolution. Evolution is a fact...there is no way to dispute it. Let me know if you would like more detailed information with specific sources.
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
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timhoward5 5 months ago
@KypMatt If your God actually does exist (and I would NEVER say with 100% certainty that he doesn't) then he most certainly utilized evolution in his creation. If you don't care to debate then I understand (no offense meant)...but ignoring the information doesn't make it disappear...it is just as relevant and just as accurate.
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@CynicalSkeptic1 What does Evolution have to do with microwaves?
RocknForJesus 9 months ago
@RocknForJesus I have no idea what you are talking about....perhaps you could be more specific?
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@CynicalSkeptic1 Could you please give me evidence tangible evidence of the Big Bang theory or evidence for Macro Evolution? I'd appreciate it if you kept the insults, and lists of scientific terms that explain nothing or offer actual proof. I'd like evidence please thank you!
christologist 9 months ago
@christologist If you actual want physical evidence all you need to do is go to a museum ( and no the creation musuem dosent count)
Or if that isnt an option just look up transitional fossils on wiki -- there are thousands of them.
Of course we can't give you tangible evidence of evoultion over the internet -- its not like we can send an attachment of a fossil
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84 Thank you for your response, however as I assumed there would be an insult or sarcasm of some sort. Why does that always seem to permeate the responses of atheists? I did what you asked by googling transitional fossils. I went to both the main page, and the list and what I found was a bit troubling.
christologist 9 months ago
Respond to this video... The transitions within species is agreed upon by all. From one to another is the problem and that was very shoddy. a snake a lizard have commonalities does this mean they were each other? One could even argue this too would classify as transition within. The same was done with the other creatures. I live in San Antonio is there a specific Museum you recommend? Secondly there is no evidence given for the BIG BANG...I await thank you!
christologist 9 months ago
@christologist "... The transitions within species is agreed upon by all"
Here is the problem though. even when we do find transitional fossils ( and we have) creationist just turn around as say -- that's not transitional its a entirely new speices.
Admittly the Big Bang is just a theory -- I'll let someone with a bit more knowledge on that explain that ( but unforntaely there will probably be scientific terms)
badpanda84 9 months ago
@christologist " The transitions within species is agreed upon by all"
Not this marco and mirco crap -- there is no such thing -- marcoevoultion is merely the accumaltion of many "mirco" changes
Of course it depends on how you define species ( which is a scientific term)
badpanda84 9 months ago
@christologist Also its not a coicidence that our DNA is 98% the same as chimpaneeses.
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84 the DNA of a cloud is about 98% the same a watermelon...check it out
christologist 9 months ago
@christologist Asking someone to give evidence for evoultion without using scientific terms is a bit like asking someone to prove christainity without using the bible.. give me some tangible evidence that chirstainity is true..
OH wait you can't ( even God by definition isnt tangible)-- at least with evoultion we have the fossils
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84 This is not what I said. Atheists/Evolutionists seem to be satisfied to rattle of a list of scientific terms without explaining how the offer proof. if yo asked me prove that there is no morality without God and i said, objective truth, internal moral compass, 10 commandments, etc. would that be sufficient or would you want both explanation of terms and/or how that proves anything? See my point. Big Bang evidence as well please. Thank you!
christologist 9 months ago
@christologist Sir, as I said in my prior posts...the biological scientific community doesn't recognize "Micro-evolution" or "Macro-evolution". There is only evolution. Simply do an internet search and you can confirm everything that I have posted.
CynicalSkeptic1 9 months ago
@CynicalSkeptic1 I don't know if you can speak for the entire scientific community but your position is well taken. All support is within species and not from one to another. Unfortunately the only evidence is within species. I also ask you how did intelligence come into existence? How does your beliefs explain such things?
christologist 9 months ago
@christologist Define species please.
scrap222666 7 months ago
@christologist I apologize for the delayed response but apparently your comment went in my junk email folder. If you insist on stating inaccurate beliefs such as "All support is within species and not from one to another" then there is no reason to continue. It is ridiculous to attempt to supplant scientific knowledge with beliefs which originate from a 2,000 year old holy book. You can believe whatever you wish. Good luck to you.
CynicalSkeptic1 4 months ago
Don't forget to utilize Kirk Cameron's method of "Circumnavigating the Intellect". This would appear to be a useful procedure for acquiring (and maintaining) religious belief.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago 12
Boy I love these two brothers, their way of witnessing is so simple but effective because it clearly shows why we need Jesus. Jesus IS the key ... without repentance your eternal destination is a dreadful place.
I urge you - consider the message, accept what Jesus did for YOU on the cross. Jesis is real. Jesus is Lord and He's coming back -
Get right with God! Tell Him you're sorry for your sins and mean it. Time is so short, you can't afford to delay any longer.
God bless.
MrNexus8 10 months ago
@MrNexus8 They convinced me that I should now live my life for Christ. I will begin by murdering anyone I see who is working on the Sabbath (Home Depot and Lowes for starters). If my children are unruly then I will take them to the edge of town and stone them to death (you don't want the stench of decaying offspring in the MIDDLE of town). Also, I am going to submit the 'biblical leprosy cleansing' procedure to science since I am certain that they have failed to recognize it's validity.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
We have rights? You don't have the right to hit the servents of God Almighty for trying to show you the way, the truth, and the life. You don't have a right to hit anyone at all actually, unless it's in self defence or defence of others. Free exercise thereof is in the constitution, being a perverted crossdressing homosexual is not.
bigbenusa45 11 months ago
Great show, it's kinda like the "pickup artist" for Christians!
iamspid3rman 11 months ago
Ban religion!!!!
benaberry 1 year ago 2
What happened to turn the other cheek, that guy was supposed to let the tranny choke him. LMFAO
bringonthewrath 1 year ago
If I was in a boxing ring with Kirk Cameron I would pound his skinny ass into next week
bringonthewrath 1 year ago
rats... i was jonesin for kirk and ray to fight to the death.
PowerfulSplicer 1 year ago
dumb and dumber do the way of the masterbator
doobon 1 year ago
3:03 the punisher see's all
xxxxkimoxxxx 1 year ago
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YouMustBeBornAgain1 1 year ago
Banana man in action.
Sgagnot 1 year ago
that older guy's cute!
scottymacgray 1 year ago
It's funny watching Ray and Kurt get harrassed and they should be. I don't stand on the corner of the street shouting my atheist views at people, trying to make them feel guilty. Accept my views and you won't burn in hell for all of eternity. Some loving God. I am going to give you free will but if you chose wrong you'll suffer forever in hell
Jshect 1 year ago
Shameless manipulators. For shame.
ar904 1 year ago
is there any official channel on you tube for the way of the master ?
TheLebanesepride 1 year ago
saul became paul and repented Vampiro.
godstrong8209 1 year ago
You might be able to get away with harrassing people in the streets in America but I'm with 'Billy the transvesitite' (Wow theres a sentence I never thought Id hear myself say. We have rights in our countries). If you dont want to get abused in Jeruselem dont force your opinions on others have some respect for other human beings you self righteous jerks.
84eisoj 1 year ago
anyone who is willing to accept Jesus should try meth or ecstasy first as they are both healthier alternatives
bretthetroll 1 year ago
I've got a question Hi2A2j, How do you sleep at night knowing you prey on children and the emotionally weak?
These bozos are your champions? The banana man and bad child actor?
Go directly to hell, do not pass go, do not collect $200
RaHaHaMen 1 year ago
These guys believe in ancient mythological book that was written 2,000 yrs ago hahaha!
jakethegent 1 year ago
This is the only episode I like--epic! Not that iIcondone assault, but...aw fuck it, this rocks! On a side note, I always felt some creepiness about bananaman and crocoduck's relationship. I get the feeling there may be some weird homo stuff going on in the name of the cumming of the lord...there's just something weird about their dynamic & how they look at each other.
iiwatcher 1 year ago
Anyway, if you wanna see some real violence look at Christians during town hall rallies, pro-life rallies, anti-abortion terrorism, & the like. And let's not forget the glorious history of christian violence.
iiwatcher 1 year ago
But that's OK bc these ppl have every right to step up to people, invade their private space, & impose themselves on them to let them know that if they don't believe what they tell them to believe they are evil & are going straight to hell, deserving of eternal torment forever. Yup. makes perfect sense. Yup, anger is an inappropriate response to such fear, guilt, & bullying tactics. That's right, praise the lord.
iiwatcher 1 year ago
God Bless these guys...
DivineNewsNetwork 1 year ago
I love their message. Please everyone, pass this video along to your loved ones. Heck even to people who you may not even get along with very well! This is a message of forgiveness. Also I kind of want to fuck Kurt Cameron in the mouth with my penis. Is that bad?
mofinn 1 year ago
They should show segments where it's the Christians who get upset and cuss, spit, punch or walk away. This happens just as often.
Somehow, it's OK to tell people they're going to Hell, but it's not Ok to tell someone to go to Hell?
You have the right to tell people about your beliefs, and in return, they have the right to tell you what they think of those beliefs.
Retro272 1 year ago
"They should show segments where it's the Christians who get upset and cuss, spit, punch or walk away. This happens just as often."
why dont you show me this? U have obviuosly seen this over and over again?? LOL....cant wait! good luck btw.
infinitemika 1 year ago
@infinitemika: It is sad that that happens. Just shows how many Christian's do not have true saving faith. I question the "christians" who live like the world
IbanezIsAll 1 year ago
I find it amazing that some people don't understand "God's Will" and or the freedom of choice that God gave to all of us...making our individual sins our own responsibility and our responsibility to seek God's forgiveness / Salvation.
BarbMomof3 1 year ago
6:49 " If that happened to me, I'd be discouraged" LOL I bet you would be you asshole
alfster24 1 year ago
people hate you becouse you pull dum-ass stunts like crokoduck and bananaman
Triple888DD2 1 year ago
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"people hate you becouse you pull dum-ass stunts like crokoduck and bananaman "
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no, u hate him, & all other "atheists" & "cute little evos" cause he battled ur religion with common sense that makes you mad...cause u cannot escape the fact of God....il pray for ya man
infinitemika 1 year ago
Religious idiocy at its best. Believing in God is ok
but believing that a man was sent on a suicide mission to clear us of our sins then flew up to heaven is irrational and idiotic.
sambomatic 2 years ago
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"but believing that a man was sent on a suicide mission to clear us of our sins then flew up to heaven is irrational and idiotic."
coming from a true scholar...obviuosly u have a compete & serious understanding of the bible,& life of jesus. Wow, if I could only be able to make opnions on things w/out knowledge like u....can u direct me to all the 4 min utube vids, zeigist, &A & E bible specials youve watched to become such a great scholar?
Religious idiocy at its best
wow,so eloquent
infinitemika 1 year ago
Lord Jesus Said if you wont COnfess Me Before Men i will feel shame on you Before my Father in Heaven.. COme On Born again Believers CONFESS Lord JESUS Before me especially with you friends Read Romans 10 .. DOnt Fear Men who cannot destroy soul Rather Fear GOD who is able to Destroy Both soul and Body.. GOD IS LOVE.. HE PAID THE GREAT PRICE FOR YOUR SINS WAKE UP WAKE UP.. Speak about LORD JESUS ANd HIM ALONE HE IS MIGHTY GLORY TO HIM HALLELUJAH. PRAISE JESUS KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS!
kannabhais 2 years ago
Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishiness with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their own craftiness", "The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile."
jacquigui 2 years ago
Jesus died and paid for your sins? How can this be a viable moral system? What kind of religion has an innocent person take on the wrongdoing of someone else and then hold it up as and accomplishment? Take responsiblity for your own acts. That's morality. Christian moral responsiblity is like putting Jeffrey Dahmer on trial, convicting him and then sending his father to prison. Jeff; your off the hook.
camlynn50 2 years ago
think what you want,, but its still the one and only way your sins can be forgivin
John146Jesus 2 years ago
You have a wrong doctrine. Jesus willingly came to die for the sins of man. When you accept Jesus Christ into your heart, you are taking complete responsibility for your sins. You have to humble yourself and say, God I have sinned against you, please forgive me. That is taking on the responsibility for your sin. God then turns from justice to mercy to forgive you of your sins. It's amazing.
tkoch25 2 years ago
@camlynn50 he was put on this earth by god to save you so YOU wouldnt have to go to hell and be saved
akagregoryaka 1 year ago
At the beginning, they went out and converted people by, as usual, telling them about sin and Hell.
They invent the problem and the sell the solution.
bttsstewart 2 years ago
The only things that went wrong was that some people actually listened to Ray and Kirk's bullshit, and nobody landed a good punch.
trueleroix 2 years ago
Awsome!!
TipoftheSlung 2 years ago
You Wrestle against your own stupidity Kirk. These hacks are just a couple of Sharletons....
hangthebastard 2 years ago
but I dont get it. When you become born again dont you get to do anything you want from that time forth. Rape, kill, steal, lie, use drugs, etc. and were still forgiven? I want to be born again so I can do these things and not have to repent. Can someone help me become born again? Being born again really sounds pretty good to me. I've been suckered trying to live my life in tune with the bible for all these years. It time to get saved so I can start sinning.
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
marcopolo8765: being saved does not mean that you get a license to sin. To truly be born again means that you REPENT(turn away from) of all sin to God and trust in His Son, Jesus, as your only means of salvation. After this, God will give you a new heart and a new mind to follow Him. You won't want to sin afterwards.
boughtwithblood7 2 years ago
hummm. If that were true then why is that every born again I know. Even when I was one. Are the biggest con men.Biggest liars, and most out for themselve people I have ever met. If God somehow changed them. I would hate to see what there life was like before. My own uncle a BA pastor for 30 years. Has sexual relations outside of wedlock. Im tired of seeing people I know become BA and then shorty afterwards O.D on drugs. And its all accepted. the hipocracy goes only so far. You still want to sin?
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
Your arugement is weak. It you reflect on your life in the past week and are honest, you have enough hypocrisy in your own life let alone having to look at other people. When a person experiences a true born again experience, God give a new heart that has new desires. Instead of wanting to please ourselves (all the sin we can eat) there is a new desire to please God. Not perfection.
sphereofinfluence247 2 years ago
Yeah but I dont know any born agains that are not severely corrupt. See I have been resisting sin and following the teachings of the holy bible for most of my life. And all my born again friends do drugs, steal, cheat, lie, have sex outside of their marriage. And will do just about anything to con people out of money. And they still get the same reward I get! I have been Con-ed. I should have become born again years ago so I can be free to do as I please. That new heart doesn't seem to lastlong
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
Unforunatly, they are the product of a man-centered Gospel that lacks REPENTANCE. Repentance requires that we turn away from all known sin and towards God. If there is no transformation I would question the authenticity of their so-called "born-again" experience.
sphereofinfluence247 2 years ago
Well i spent 2 years in Windsor Crossing the st louis areas leading Evangelical Christian church. With services held tues-sunday. Every 2 hours. It took a production crew of over 30 people to run the show. Thats just behind the scenes. I also spent about a year in a little local non denominational Christian chruch with only about 50 members. I can not say that in 3 years I found 2 people that were not extremely corrupt. Do as I say not as I do types. Maybe its different where your at but i think
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
I would encourage you to consider Romans chapters 6-8. Paul speaks of the freedom we have been given in Christ and not to use it as a reason to sin. He talks about the on-going struggle to resist temptation and the war that wages in us all. And he speaks in chapter 8 about how to walk in the Spirit and NOT in the flesh. I would encourage you to read Pagan Chrisitanity by Frank Viola. It will open your eyes to the reality of the modern chruch and how far we have fallen away from God's plan.
sphereofinfluence247 2 years ago
I am aware of far we have fallen away. Thats why I joined a church that follows the bible almost to a T. Not just talking about it but actually practicing the things contained within the holy bible. The LDS church is the closest thing I have found to God. Never had the spirit in my life for as long as I have been a practicing LDS. I know its because we follow the holy bible.
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
if someone claimed to be born again and still wanted to do these evil things, then they should doubt their salvation. If they truly had an encounter with Jesus Christ, their life would be radically changed. You will know them by their fruit!
mattea19841984 2 years ago
Exactly, Thats why i became a latter day saint. the only church in the world that actually follows the bible and has serious penalties for when you break commandments. And lets face it the fruits of the latter day saint church are undeniably far better than any other. Great point. I don't feel so bad about following the gospel now thanks for the advice.
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
Did you know the Bible is written by murderers, adulturers, backsliders, and that Jesus' own disciple denied him three times (Peter)?
I dont know where you meet these corrupt people who call themselves Christian, but YOU CANT FAULT A RELIGION BY ITS HERITICS!!!
Thats a logical fallacy, and its besides the point. Someones worldview does NOT become "truer" the nicer that person gets, and I wont accept your gospel because you have a nicer smile. My faith is based on objective evidence!
mattea19841984 2 years ago
Yea and theres also some pretty great people who wrote in it as well. Moses, Abraham, Isaiah. You have to take the good with the bad and try not to lose the overall message the bible presents. Many born again new age churches are doing away with the old testament all together. If this is the case in your church. Im very sorry. Objective evidence you base a belief inGod upon? shouldn't you be basing your belief in God upon a relationship with your God? Personal knowledge, experiences etc?
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
I read/study the entire Bible!
And yes, personal knowledge and experiences are part of the evidence im talking about. Im with you on that.
The problem I have is when people consider themselves better than other people. That is irrelevant. The Bible says we are ALL SINNERS before God.
Am I bearing good fruit? I do my best with Gods help. Hes given me a new heart & new desires. Im not comparing myself to other people, but to JESUS CHRIST. Im a sinner saved by grace! I dont deserve Heaven!
mattea19841984 2 years ago
Humm, well who have you talked to that considers themself better than you? Ego and pride are things that are definitely not of God. God asks us to come to him with a broken heart and a contrite spirit. When you follow God and his commandments, and obey the laws of repentance. Ego and pride really have use in that area. Usually in my experience when someone is acting as if they are better than you. Its usually because they are trying to hide there faults instead of faceing them.
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
Objective evidence, good one. lol
trueleroix 2 years ago
If you truly feel that you do not deserve heaven then why would you want to go somewhere where you don't think you belong? Jesus died for us so that we can have eternal life. If it wasn't for the atonement that he made we would all be lost. As Jesus arose and in his final words on this earth he said. I know go to prepare a place for you in my fathers kingdom. Well doesn't that kind of tell you that, Thats where we belong? If we believe in him Yes we are saved. Without a doubt. Its his promise.
marcopolo8765 2 years ago
I DONT deserve it (its a GIFT and NOT OF WORKS lest any man should boast).
I now belong there because Jesus Christ paid for my sins when he hung on that cross!
I never said I dont belong in Heaven! Only that I dont deserve it. I deserve the wrath of God, but because of his grace, I have been forgiven!
God became a man and paid my penalty for sin :)
In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word WAS God. ...ANd the word became flesh and dwelt among us!
mattea19841984 2 years ago
Encounter with Jesus, lol
trueleroix 2 years ago
It seems kirk and ray have lost all touch with human emotions. They seem like robots.
If you guys want to believe thats cool, but think if me and james randi stopped and hassled you in the street. Talking about how there is no god and your being a harmfull self centered propagandist.
Would you be angry? Of course, because it is not my place to randomly hassle you and demand you believe what i do.
But they do this and seem shocked they recieve a poor reaction.
sadhattersreturn 2 years ago
The problem with people like this is people hate to admit when a christian gets a lot of power and influence, THIS HAPPENS.
Never fail, once they have a little weight to swing around they go insane in some way shape or form.
sadhattersreturn 2 years ago
I hate these two queers, if they weren't so stupid, I'd feel bad for them.
LuciferTheEvilOne 2 years ago
lol these two clowns go to jew capitol, preaching about jesus, and they're shocked by the results?! let's see them do the same in Iran.
LedusZeppelinus 2 years ago
I'd like to beat these two up a little. They are such fucking pussies. Jesus was a fucking loser and christianity is a sick joke.
finalprophet10 2 years ago
These guys annoy me to no end. Preaching through fear. My opinion is, that as soon as you try to sell religion it becomes defunct.
mar8les 2 years ago
right on dude. I hate these losers.
finalprophet10 2 years ago
The Bible clearly says all who work at Jiffylube are damned to hell.
renhoek3 2 years ago
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It says those that work for Little Caesars pizza will also go to hell for working at a place named after the man responsible for Jesus' crucifixion.
finalprophet10 2 years ago
These guys are awesome, Ray and Kirk are the best :) Imma do this one day
1989dman 2 years ago
Man you guys are awesome!
USNavyman09 2 years ago
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holy shit these guys with gloves on just accentuate their complete failure as men, and humans. they are such gaywads.LOLOLOLOLOL
Bockatadi 2 years ago
Complete failure...? what kind of man gives his life for his friends. I guess not a failure. Your ignorance is only exceeded by your pride.
I know courageous men and women of honor, your understanding of honor, courage is squat! How could you say failure? You mock the very air you breath. God is truly merciful. God offers you life and you spit into the wind... I'd say repent that means to stop turn around and change your ways and beg, Yes beg God for mercy! You have no other hope. Listen!
Hi2A2j 2 years ago
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Totally gay.
CeraSeptem 2 years ago
You should of read the reply from the guy I wrote it too, you are much more generous... but I know he read it... if you have any questions about the christian faith... feel free to ask.
Hi2A2j 2 years ago 2
Your argument breaks down at a crucial point. You say love; for sure! For the analogy to be correct YOU with intent drove into the iceberg after clear instruction on how not to and still are offered a seat on the lifeboat and the fact that there is even a lifeboat... is kind.
While a straw man argument may work as a rhetorical technique—and succeed in persuading people—it carries little or no real evidential weight, since the actual argument has not been refuted. From Wikipedia.
Hi2A2j 2 years ago
I don't think that was a straw man, friend.
The devil was created by God, not mankind. That's what the iceberg represented. There was no reason to deliberately create what God knew would wreak such havoc, yet God apparently does so anyway (???). We did not "with intent" drive into the icberg, it blindsided us.
Also, what sense does it make to tell something, that is in all honestly incapable of telling the difference between right & wrong, not to do a certain thing -- because it's wrong?
Vampiro413 2 years ago
The Devil and his angles had choice & you have the same. All Angles are not evil. You can choose as did the one you serve.
I'll not compare God's miracles versus Satan's lies-the issue is not God's kingdom and Satan's lair. The real comparison is the condition of your soul & the condition of mine. We know now; choose Good! My friend, one day they're coming for you those spirits will lay claim to the rights they own to your soul. Then what? I believe..! No! Find the life boat now!
Hi2A2j 2 years ago
Well, I could go into how free will doesn't exist in the eyes of an omniscient being but, whatever.
You can call whatever you want good if it so pleases you. I however, know that if I were a parent, absolutely NOTHING could ever make me destroy my own children with a lake of fire. I'd find some other way.
People suck, yeah. But there are others out there that love far more than the God I'm getting from you. I'll take "God of infinite love & forgiveness" to it's full definition, thank you.
Vampiro413 2 years ago
Huh. Saul torturing & killing xtians just for having different beliefs sounds horrible to these guys, yet when their Yahweh does the exact same thing to Bhuddists, Atheists, Hindus, New Agers, Taoists, & Wiccans, they praise him for it and call him loving...
Does anyone else find anything weird with this? /:|
Vampiro413 3 years ago 10
xtians what's that?
wfl18 3 years ago
Oh, that's just a shorthand way of writing "Christians" because an X is a "cris"-cross, thus you get the whole "Chris" sound only with one letter rather than four. It just saves space is all.
Vampiro413 3 years ago
that's a stupid lie
wfl18 3 years ago
I'm sorry, what is? The explanation of "xtian" or the other comment?
Vampiro413 3 years ago
So basically you feel ok to judge the Judge, but if He judges, then not so good. I hope you could consider that the Yahweh is the same as Jesus.
That Saul, he did what he understood in blind zeal yet when his eyes opened - he was a new man. That is why Saul became Paul and then followed in the Way. I don't expect it to make sense because you may think you're a good person, just like Saul, I use too, but by my standard and Saul's are not the Judges. See that's what matters.
Hi2A2j 2 years ago
"...consider that the Yahweh is the same as Jesus."
If you were on the Titanic, & the Captain Himself selflessly gave you His seat on the lifeboat, you would call that a loving act, yes?
But what if He had magically created that iceberg in the first place, foresaw the hour & coordinates of the collision, could have EASILY steered the ship clear & averted the whole fiasco -- yet for some reason, didn't. Then He blames us for what happened. Would you call him a loving Captain?
I can't.
Vampiro413 2 years ago
@Vampiro413 When a perfect god does something then we are not to question it.
speedskate2010 1 year ago
@speedskate2010 Why not?
Vampiro413 1 year ago
@Vampiro413 Strawman...
Dejavu12321 1 year ago
@Dejavu12321 In what way?
Vampiro413 1 year ago
@Vampiro413 John 7:7
IAmForgiven92 1 year ago
@IAmForgiven92 "The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify that what it does is evil."
I see... And what do mean when you quote this particular passage?
Vampiro413 1 year ago
@Vampiro413 John 7:7 (KJV) "The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil." the world hates God because He is true, and the only reason Christians get rejected when they share the gospel to the lost is because it's true, the world is a dark place my friend, and when i say that, i don't mean anyone in particular is "bad" we're all sinners, it's in our nature to sin, but thank the Lord he sent His only begotten son to die on the cross for us.
IAmForgiven92 1 year ago
@IAmForgiven92 [1/2] No IAmForgiven92, that is actually incorrect. I am a solitary Wiccan, and I'd like to explain the real reason why you guys are rejected all the time. The world doesn't hate God or Jesus -- it hates arrogance, blatant irrationality, willful ignorance, and sabotaged consciences. According to the bible, a serial rapist/murderer will be admitted into Paradise for *belief* in what is basically a fairytale, while a kind-hearted & harmless guy who doesn't will be tortured forever.
Vampiro413 1 year ago
@IAmForgiven92 [2/2] What father does that??? That is not justice -- that system is absolute insanity and pure evil. This is why the world screams at you IAmForgiven92. You assert, without evidence, that the bible is true. That alone is extremely arrogant. What's worse is the holocaust it extols, which you actually maintain is just. The gospel is a putrid, depraved, anti-human, morally bankrupt theology, and the hostility it receives is the world testifying to the fact that the gospel is evil.
Vampiro413 1 year ago 2
@Vampiro413 2Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith; not by sight) I don't expect anyone who is not a Christian to understand what I believe, and yes the bible is anti-human, it's the very word's of God, written by man, who obeyed Him, not everything in the bible seems all fun and games, it's often dark and even depressing sometimes, but it's something I study and learn from to grow and mature, and God the Father, is just and merciful, it's not if anyone's been "good or bad" its a matter of faith
IAmForgiven92 1 year ago
@IAmForgiven92 I do know what you believe; I was once a born again xtian myself . I understand your theology's story arc. I just want to make sure you understand my points too. I don't believe in bible, but I don't have to in order to assess its content. A father who throws his own children into a lake of fire, to be tortured forever, because they didn't believe he existed, after he hid himself from all sight, is a sick, twisted, demented, evil monster.
Vampiro413 1 year ago
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@Vampiro413 "A father who throws his own children into a lake of fire, to be tortured forever, because they didn't believe he existed, after he hid himself from all sight, is a sick, twisted, demented, evil monster" Those who violate their consciences are NOT "his children". God does not throw his children into hell. Even an atheist has a conscience. It was placed their by God.
eflint1 11 months ago
@IAmForgiven92 And yet, that's what xtians assert is perfectly loving, just, wise, and holy. There is no justice in rewarding/punishing people over something as trivial and arbitrary as faith. A god that does that is evil & that's why it angers people.
I'm sure you're a very nice person IAmForgiven92, and I'm not trying to be mean (I apologize if I sound it), but I'm just trying to explain why xtians are rejected without sacrificing clarity or severity. I hope you understand.
Vampiro413 1 year ago
@Vampiro413 Who says he punishes them over "faith". He will punish them for SIN, for violating their own conscience. You have violated your conscience. THAT is what you'll be punished for unless you repent on HIS terms.
eflint1 11 months ago
@eflint1 Does he *want* to put his wrath on anyone?
Vampiro413 11 months ago
@Vampiro413 God is willing that none should perish but that all should come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9)
eflint1 11 months ago
@eflint1 So, he doesn't want anyone to go to hell?
Vampiro413 11 months ago
@Vampiro413 God has made a way for all of those people you listed , and for YOU to escape his wrath. If you reject that escape, then it is your fault. HE calls the shots, not us. He is the only true, HOLY, and just being in existence. So you'd better find out what's in YOUR life that will incur his wrath and repent of it. Sorry, but I'm not going to tell you, "Jesus loves you" and all that jazz. Yes, he loves you more than you see, but until you understand his wrath, you'll not accept his love
eflint1 11 months ago
@eflint1 Your comment was filled with a vast quantity of effluvium...perhaps you should offer a disclaimer in your next one.
You said "He (God) is the only true, HOLY, and just being in existence."
The biblical God is anything but just....a mass murderer and a child rapist can accept Jesus on their death beds and they will end up in exactly the same place as Mother Theresa. If this is your concept of a 'just' God then I submit that your interpretation of justice is severely flawed.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago 3
@CynicalSkeptic1 Why didn't you just ask to begin with about deathbed salivations? Truthfully, the "child rapist" you described would probably be an atheist, agnostic, satanist to begin with. He has no fear of God if he raped a child. He has a seared conscience and wouldn't even be thinking of Christ on his deathbed.
eflint1 10 months ago
@eflint1 Sir, what you stated is completely ridiculous. The vast majority of violent criminals are religious. Atheists represent approximately 8% to 16% of the United States population but are sorely lacking from the prison populace where they are only 0.21% of the inmates. So, what you espouse is COMPLETELY contradictory to actual fact. Atheists are FAR LESS LIKELY to commit violent crimes than religious people. Do an internet search.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@CynicalSkeptic1 I was not implying that atheists were more like ly to kill someone. My point was that any such person as you described (child rapists) would be devoid of God in his thinking at death and would not have a "deathbed salvation" anyway. However, you do seem to be trying to build some ridiculous case that religous people are all murderers.. True, some are. Islam even condones it. But neither Ray Comfort nor I are pushing "religion". We're preaching "changed hearts" through Christ
eflint1 10 months ago
@eflint1 I simply indicated factual evidence that religious people appear to be more likely to commit violent crimes. So, your hypothesis that child rapists wouldn't have 'deathbed salvations' is immaterial. Most violent criminals ARE religious. That is a fact. So, these violent criminals don't need to have deathbed salvations....most are ALREADY religious and have already 'given their lives to Christ'.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@eflint1 Leading a philanthropic life has never been a contingency for admission to heaven. The deeds that you perform in your lifetime (good or bad) are truly inconsequential in God's eyes. The only actions with which God is concerned is 'asking forgiveness' for your sins and accepting him as your savior....that's it. So God's primary all-encompassing demand is acceptance...and has absolutely nothing to do with your 'sins'.
CynicalSkeptic1 10 months ago
@eflint1 Just the fact that the first four commandm