Guantanamo Legal Adviser Refuses To Say Iranians Waterboardi

[sahme4]

When the American Government hanged Japanese soldiers in WWII for waterboarding Americans, it was wrong. And when they do it on Muslims, it's alright. Man, if I ever see George Bush and Dick Chaney, I'm going to shoot them and then cut them up into 50 pieces and feed them to my dog.

[DominicMetal1979]

I've never had to say this about an American military man before, but Brigadier General Thomas W. Hartmann is a white nigger.

[cyrushoda]

UHGH..that's awful, i've never seen this before, how horrible we've been reduced to the level to the islamic/banana republic of iran

[Shahidnabibullah]

thats where the republicans took it.

[911insidejob81]

and women and children were raped and beaten in Guantanamo

PLEASE STOP torture and

and many victims of this nazi torture are innocent!!

[AfghansWorld]

these fucking AmeriCUNTs need to be equiped to even answer the easiest and common sense questions LOL

[sheshe670]

terrorists

[konakevin777]

Hartmann's a PUSSY COMMUNIST!

[rr199423]

"Im not equipped"Lol, what a cunt.He sure got owned.

[Darusdei]

hahahahahaaa even american generals are evasive :DDD and when i was in the army that wasnt exactly the way how u were trained to respond to questions :D

[TruthJockey]

The government will save face AT ALL COSTS...even if it means allowing other's to violate the Geneva Convention! These are the lengths that they will go to to perpetuate tyranny -- they've conned Americans into spending $400mil+ PER DAY chasing down men in caves in 3rd world countries, please stop letting them manipulate the collective unconsciousness like this. Is an Iraqi Americana worth losing YOUR liberty & YOUR economy over, PLEASE WAKE UP! This is manipulation, same as type Russia used.

[IgWannA2]

i like how he says torture is illegal in america... what he means is it's ok if you send them to gitmo THEN torture them.

[josesoj]

If this General is that incompetent to not be able to answer a simple question, then that general shouldn't be a general in the first place.

Yes he is a tool of politicians as oliver north was in teh iran contra scandal when the CIA sold drugs to fund the Contras. This is a mirror image of oliver north...

[paniolo]

HAHAHAHAHAAHA someone got owned!

[monkeyman1140]

This is why conservatives hate Linsey Graham. hehehehe

[ScottfromTexas]

No, we hate him because of him waving a white flag to Mexico. For THIS I think he is WONDERFUL! You aren't much of a conservative if you trust government to do crap like this! If you trust them for that, why don't you trust them for healthcare????

[monkeyman1140]

Then support Ron Paul, not Señor McCain or NAFTA-boy Huckabee.

[ScottfromTexas]

I do.

[skeeterou]

Epic win.

[JamiesonKnowlton]

Fucking Owned!!!

[sooperspook]

Heh.

I generally do not use this phrase but I beleive it sums this up nicely.

"Owned"

[hamiltonz]

Congress needs to be handing out a bit more Contempt of Congress to deal with people who won't answer the blasted question!

[kiloboba]

good but it should have been better.

[Joeey]

pwned

[GratefulGroover]

that was the best congressional bitch slap I have ever seen

[AvangionQ]

When a general won't answer a legitimate question, you ask -- why won't you answer the question? Or better yet -- who's authority do you need to answer the question? Then tell the general to wait while you go summon that person -- get all your ducks in a row and *make* them answer your question, or hold them all in contempt of Congress, as is your right to do so.

[Beaker]

I think that "Beneath Contempt" is the operative phrase for this guy.

[braneworld]

What a spineless coward. If this guy is typical of the top brass in our military - we as a nation are doomed.

[randomusername2000]

Not equipped to answer.

I do not recall.

These two statements can get you out of anything!

[nexus2xl]

General got owned

[visualdichotomy]

He's not equipped? Quick, someone equip this man!

[NoobiWan]

I think the general was owned.

[citizen511]

Yeah, and owned by Lindsay Graham, too. How emasculating.

[commanderetardo]

wow. well if he's not equipped the military should find someone to help them out, like a high ranking legal advisor with an expertise in military law. oh wait....

[qwitchabotchins]

Lol not equipped? Like he didn't think that would be a question? Totally caught him with his pants down?

[maisis00]

Busted!!!!

[lakeviewviking]

Hartmann is doing one hell of a Ralph Kramden there:"...hominahominahomina!"

[tamburich]

FRIED

lol not equiped to answeer.

I gotta rember that one

[Tomcatadam]

Sovereign country with a military in uniform, therefor bound by the Geneva conventions.

[MQFahey]

This is just grandstanding by Senator Graham. He should have excoriated General Hartmann given the fact that it is the General's job to know, but he just said, "No further questions."

He said it with a condescending tone, to be sure, but it was letting Hartmann off the hook all the same.

[feb10TorontoSci]

Hypocrisy of equality at its best.

[thelaw1026]

Way to go Sen. Graham!

[guy5099]

BURNED!!!!!!!!

[mjh189]

lol nice.

[spellbinderlord]

Its kinda funny how americans think the attacks of 9/11 were just to kill some people in the towers. That event was to piss off americans and make them do somthing half cocked and stupid to make the world hate them, and it worked well.

I mean the state of the world now, with all the usa has done, now you have americans who hate the usa so much they are flattening tires and doing other things to solders at home. The world wasnt like that before, but now its so fucked up the enemy could be anyone

[altiplano1066]

Gen. Thomas Hartman: You are a COWARD!!!

[lordironwulf]

Why is he a legal counselor if he doesn't know the answers to the questions? That's his job.

[slikind]

ah, corruption, its great.

[JohnnyStorm08]

Nice to see a republican do something good for a change.

[rivalius13]

He's one of those Republicans pretending to be a democrat that Ron Paul talked about. HE'S EVIL!

[venomouSjS]

lol blakemontie must be george "the worst president in history" w. bush in disguise

[laiseri]

"We are at war with an enemy who wants to kill us, not just soldiers, us."

What the hell are you on blakemontie? There hasn't been a single terrorist attack on the US for 7 years!?

[wholenote]

And our administration even knew about that one 7 years ago months in advance! meaning, they absolutely absolutely COULDVE stopped it!!!! hmm, wonder why they didnt? .................. YUP, BROKEN RECORD AGAIN BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE!

[HairyPotter2006]

and all the attacks in the past were inside job.

[TantrooM]

That's a republican asking that question? You know it's going to be a long day for the general.

[chrislawless]

so why didnt general hartman use that excuse?

[raleel]

Yes, I would be against that. The reason? Because the waterboarding would not stop the future attacks. It does nothing to increase security. Indeed, "America tortures Middle Eastern people" would be the best battle cry that Al-Qaida could come up with shy of Shaitan actually standing next to our President. The ends don't justify the means, because that means others can use those means on us

[gdickinsense]

FUCK!!!! 911? GO AHEAD AND TORTURE THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS! GODDAMNIT 911 IS SO SCARY. FUCK!!! HERE TAKE MY RIGHTS WHILE YOUR AT IT.

Honestly though, this is some messed up shit.Oh, and yeah 2 + 2 = 5.

[feet77]

The fundamental mistakes in logic / intelligence you make are these.

1) You assume that torturing 50 people would have prevented 9/11. That's bullshit.

2) You haven't read the constitution of the United States of America. Just like Fundamentalist muslims are ready to die for their religion, you're supposed to be ready to die for your constitution. Instead you've proposed tearing it up, because you're scared. Shame on you, blake montie.

[lightsandcolors]

Blake's thought process: hmmm I can't post something and not look like a complete dumb ass if I don't agree with what this congressman is trying to say....WAIT I know I will bring up 9/11 like all my other fear mongering heroes. YEAH!! I am such a patriot.

[sseguin]

torture doesn't work and is inhumane. however, beating the crap out of someone `cause they piss you off is all too human.

[ZeroMXI]

South Carolina, as much as I hate them...I respect 'em for their convictions of personal freedoms.

Senator Lindsey Graham an actual Republican...KUDOS to this man. He served in the military and obviously doesn't want this double standard to go on so, as he said, our downed airmen don't have to go through waterboarding (read: torture).

This general is not a general...He's a criminal and gives a bad name to servicemen and women.

[despondentisthmus]

If you know the military code of conduct, general, then you know the answer. If not, then turn in your stripes! You are not worthy of them, and you are not worthy of command.

[dddaaavvveeeddd]

all you anti-torture fools are fucking pathetic - so a terrorist plots and executes a plan to crash planes into the twin towers yet rather than condemn him, you look uot for videos like this and condemn the type of people who are trying to do good for the USA? If they need information out of a terrorist - i'm all for torturing if the terrorist doesn't agree to give them any information. A terrorist doesn't have human rights in my eyes

[showmethevideos000]

You're the idiot here. You lower yourself to their level and call those with a moral code that doesn't change with the ruling political party pathetic?

Do us a favor and go fight in Iraq you brave soul.

[dddaaavvveeeddd]

Stop trying to make logic out of it, its fucking pathetic. If I had a terrorist captive and he had more information about upcoming terrorist threats i'd waterboard him without hesitation - hell i'd probably do much worse than that - until I got my information

[feet77]

Yeah, because every single peer-reviewed study on torture has shown that torture is an effective interrogation tool. Oh wait sorry, no they've shown the opposite. There is a former Mossad agent in Israel who is able to break down any captive within less than 48 hours - he has never failed. The remarkable thing is he never touches the suspects. He knows for a fact that torture doesn't work. What you say to that?

[BiggggieS]

State your sources. According to me everything you just said is made up.

[Ab4kus]

Get with the picture man, they're not doing this to figure out who crashed those planes in the building. They shipped a whole airplane of possible suspects to their home country while the rest of the country was unable to board a plane.

You're being VERY naive if you still think they're doing this to save anyone and not out of corporate and imperial intereset.

[dddaaavvveeeddd]

What would they gain from torturing people who didnt know anything?

[Ab4kus]

A confession to fool people like you into believing they're actually terrorists.

[John4Ron]

If I didn't have any information, and someone threatened me with torture, I would maker something up. Torture doesn't furnish good information, and it lowers the moral standing of the US. The idea that anything is permissible in the name of fighting terror is the road to fascism. Americans are not immune to human nature, and our government is not immune to the perils of corruption and lawlessness. There will be a price to pay. You're all for this .. you pay it.

[ichormosquito]

PWNED.

[paulypants]

Iran would NEVER waterboard any American, that would be torture! They would just chop off their head, that's OK though.

[PaulRayIsMe]

Senator Lindsay Graham deserves to be applauded for putting that in terms that anyone can understand and in a way that General Hartmann couldn't wiggle out of without implicating himself as being complicit in the act of torture. Thank You Sen. Graham!

[tehsimo]

Owned

[ChickenBot]

These idiots provide enough information without even answering the question.

Wateboarding is WRONG plain and simple, imagine doing it to your 4 year old son because he spilled his soup or your teenager because he got an F in Algebra.

Even if you do it to the most vicious criminal, it is still torture and stands against everything we claim to be fighting for, don't kid yourselves.

You may be the next one.

Note: Notice how he says it is "illegal" in the U.S. (meaning they do it but not here)

[operationuranus]

evil iranians, they are waterboarding ze americanzs... nuke them

[swiftysmithuk]

I have an idea how Sen. Graham could get Gen. Hartmann to answer the question!

[Hellbacon]

Wow. Owned.

[wimmer6]

great that europe does not want to be part of those american crimes. its time the world community stops that torturing and illegal activities of the usa.

[thelixir715]

All I can say is owned!

[anon902503]

Woooooow...

[archangelhunter]

This is really pathetic.

[collodiallofi]

america has strayed from the path

[Hageeisanass]

I personally visited the Tuol Sleng Khmer Rouge museum in Phnom Penh. The Khmer Rouge used waterboarding on Cambodians. They all thought it was torture.

Folks, Americans are doing nothing less than what the Khmer Rouge did - torture.

[jtjathomps]

Umm, the Geneva convention does not apply to ununiformed personell. Therefore the Geneva convention does apply to our downed airman. It does not apply to a ununiformed terrorist.

[takennamey]

The Geneva convention distinguishes between combatants and civilians only. If you say an un-uniformed personnel engages in combat, then you are saying terrorists are combatants-thus protected by the conventions.

[snottlebocket]

You can't call these people terrorists, they haven't been convicted of anything.

These people don't enjoy the protection of the geneva convention since America refuses to treat them as enemy combatants. And they don't receive civil rights such as a fair trial either.

Effectively America is granting these people zero rights. Which is criminal whichever way you look at it.

[Snowspot]

So ur saying the iranians can feel free to torture Americans then? Does that also mean you can torture civilians because they don't wear uniforms? Are you retarded?

[gooble69]

Umm, yes it does.

The Geneva Conventions (note the 's') consist of 4 articles, the 4th of which is dedicated to civilians & POWs.

[jtjathomps]

You guys aren't very bright. In WWII When Germans soldiers were caught out of uniform, they were hanged - legally. They also could have been executed on sight. The Geneva conventions were set up this way to keep the cowards from hiding in the populace, which puts innocents at risk. These animals don't care. Torture is legal for them.

[FocherAU]

I think it's great that Senator Graham nailed him on the point, but I would put the same question to Graham. If the answer is yes, that it would be torture and a violation of the Geneva Convention then is George Bush guilty of a war crime? Many of us think he is, and for a standing Senator to support anything short of calling for the impeachment of a war criminal sitting as President seems shocking. That goes for the others, too.

[papajohn5656]

Lindsey Graham is a terrible congressman, this one plus does not make up for his history of negatives.

[Geekcognito]

Sooooo true. I am ashamed to say that I voted for him last time but never again!

[Incongruent]

Damn Graham. Give it to him.

[sandbags80]

pwned! justice 1 fascism 1,000,000.

Well, its a start I guess.

[dannieboii]

damn that senator raped him. love the disdainful mic slap at the end

[starkreality]

BOOYAH!

[noctillion]

That guy doesn't make me proud of my armed forces.

[MuslimGhost]

Waterboard Cheney. Its not torture.

[ultimatedumbass]

Smackdown!

[SpitfirePisces]

We need more leaders like Sen. Lindsey Graham. He is one of the top members of Congress, IMO. That was some hardcore pwnage.

[wilsonacerSC]

well I'll say this...if you got lindsey graham on your side if you're a senator...you got some rep to pass the proposed bill you come up with.

[murrayrothstein]

How about answering this one: Is the napalming and machine gunning of sailors in lifeboats fleeing a naval ship in distress a violation of the Geneva Conventions?

[ryu481]

Yes, napalm the hell out of lifeboats, in the middle of the fucking ocean. Pure genius.

[Powerfacemaster]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooowned

that's a brutal smackdown cspan style

[logrusmage]

It's torture in both cases. I don't understand why he wouldn't say that...

[spartan2600]

because if iran used torture by waterboarding, then the U.S. is torturing by waterboarding, thereby breaking the law.

[crissullivan]

Fantastic work by Graham. Why can't all our elected officials care about truth and justice?

[koaftder]

Because they don't have a spine. It's nice to see a republican doing the right thing for once.

[camarokidaj]

I am not a republican but I respect anyone who calls people on their bullshot!

[ajonessn]

I have no doubt that the rest of the world is going to be accusing America and our president of war crimes against humanity before this is all said and done. The military leaders actions just prove that they are pawns in the game. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, hell, I'm a Republican, and I think that the atrocities that are taking place are despicable and that those in leadership should be held accountable.

[camarokidaj]

I agree but I just wanted to add that every United States president in history could be tried for war crimes. The United States makes the rules and then disregards them when applying the rules to themselves. No universality, just like all Us foreign policy.

[aimhelix]

US do it - No. Iran do it - Yes. Is that so hard to understand? (sarcasm)

[jimbo92107]

This country has no further use for that general.

[androidd]

it boils my blood that people let these jackasses get away with cop-outs like this all the time. it's bullshit and everyone knows it, even them.

[sil3nfsnip3r]

What, do you guys seriously think that other countries don't torture our own soldiers or spies? Or even American contractors working in Iraq? Stop being so damn liberal and actually think about what's going on. Damnit.

[newgtguy]

So ignore the Geneva Conventions?

[sovietmonkeytaco]

no just treat them like bush treats the constitution

[cme884]

Just because other countries are doing it doesn't mean we should. Other countries do a lot of horrible things that we don't do because we as a country have deemed it morally reprehensible. Torture is one of those things. It's a pretty cut and dry issue.

[mkhwgajwkcwy]

Whatever others may do, what separates us from them are our values and actions, if we do the same things that our "enemies" do, how are we so different from what they are?

[wowthungsten]

I'd say the biggest difference would have to be that most of 'them' don't claim to be the world's conscious while at the same time being so stupendously hypocritical as to do unto others what the world has agreed to is torture and then be too chickenshit to just call it like it is.

The way this administration and its representatives have been dancing around the issue is shameful to the core. The US has openly lost the moral high ground.

[nekedemus]

Why do you think America is loosing allies on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

I can tell you.

because we don´t torture.

My country left Iraq because of Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib.

And if America don`t behave in Afghanistan we will soon be gone.

[kraznadar]

So do it because they're doing it? Things would go to hell pretty quickly with that logic...

It's called moral high-ground, and if you're looking for it, it's above you.

[PenguinInNaples]

I never thought of it that way. I like it

[sil3nfsnip3r]

suck my fat cock faggot

[ferrell]

What a fucking piece of shit.

[williest1]

The word is 'Extraordinary rendition'... terms used to describe the apprehension and extrajudicial transfer of a person from one area to another. The U.S. govt. practices rendition. Which is why all of the Bush-ies (including Mit Romney) can emphatically say 'The United States does NOT torture!'

[cooljj82]

Exactly, we don't torture them IN the U.S.A. ;-) ...we take them to GUANTANAMO!!

[Theologist]

Also the fact that the government does Torture...but not in the united states. They contract it out to other areas of the world. Lol.

[tdylan2]

This video really needs to include the long glare that Graham gives Hartmann at the end.

[crazymadbird]

"Torture is illegal in the United States," but the United States isn't prepared to define what torture is.