being the argentinian girl that I am, I think that sometimes argentinian men (like Marcelo) are very open about what they feel for a woman, they tend to fight for her and insist in a way that some women may find irresistible. may be that was the case: tarja found a man who told her exactly the things she wanted to hear from a man and she fell in love with all that "latin male" stuff. nevertheless, I prefer Tuomas forever, but they might be too perfect to be together
Oh, come on! "Forever Yours"?! "Untold Love" ?! How are you so sure about this untold love, and how are you able to talk in name of them? "Forever yours"?!
Now I'm pissed.
Yeah, they have pictures together, so? what? they are deeply in love with each other, sharing a feeling like that between Romeo&Juliet?!
Wake the hell up! they have been in the SAME band for 9 YEARS! They saw each other every single bloody day (well, except holidays and stuff like that )!
calm down no one knows what the fuck happen bettewen them but what i care is that whatever happen end up with tarja being fire and humillate by her " friends"
Tuomas loved Tarja,but Tarja didn't love Tuomas that way he wasn't her type,Tarja loves Marcelo he is the love of her life,accept it now,I met Marcelo and i understand Tarja,he's a sweet,nice man,so stop the romancescene between Tuomas and Tarja that is never gonna happen,she is very happy with MARCELO.....
I really think Tuomas loved Tarja but maybe he felt sad that Tarja married Marcelo, and that Tarja changed a lot when Marcelo came. Tuomas felt bad and maybe fired Taja because of it. But Tuomas and Tarja made a perfect couple!
que triste carajo!!! eso no tendria que haber pasado, es una de esas cosas que no cierrran. LA cantante esta nueva...bueno. podria despacharme largo rato sobre lo vaga, haragana que es para cantar y su actitud nwe roker tipo Garbage. Simplemente no llena el lugar para Nightwish. Pero no hablo de llenar el lugar de Tarja, es imposible, pero ni siquiera llena el de ella misma. No da lo mejor de si y eso se nota, y la banda deberia reemplazarla ya. La piba esta que se dedique al rock adolescente
yo misma he pensado exactamente en lo mismo, posiblemente si las cosas hubieran sucedido asi todavia tendriamos a la banda junta. No digo que Anette sea mala cantante ni nada por el estilo, si no que simplemente no es lo mismo
The video is great. And I think... we all know that Tarja and Toumas aren't together. So I think we don't have to argue. Nightwish with Tarja was great! And now it's great, too, but different...
oh! since i started to listen to nightwish I always thought that some lyrics of nightwish songs made by tuomas are referred to tarja in a "romantic"way,maybe a "courtly love"??????
My second try^^... In my first comment I only wrote shit.
I thought the same. But since I've seen their website, I knew that they aren't and weren't together.I've read that Tarja is married and I was really shocked.^^
i know tarja is married but i still think that this fact inspired tuomas to write such lyrics even more,the feeling that you have when you love a girl and this girl loves another man,not you........
my thoughts exactly... which i think constituted even more for kicker her out when she began using the band to advert her solo career... thats losing the woman you love to another man and then getting stabbed in the back too... in my opinion it was tuomas' only course of action there... and thus Bye Bye Beautiful was written!
Toumas stated numerous times that the lyrics and music he wrote where not for Tarja..so please stop making nightwish a imposible love story cause its not...toumas is a great artist and just like Tarja, he has a life outside this band
Oh yes! it would have been perfect if Tarja had loved Tuomas...
Tarja would still be with NW, NW would still be this magic band (they lost their magic with her departure) and Tuomas would be a happier chap. Wishful thinking that was never meant to be...
You can't force somone to love a person. I actually find they don't make a credible couple. She looks older and more sophisticatated than him.(not that her ugly husb
I'm latin too, even when I'm not feel that, I'm from Chile, and I say that Tuomas is a normal guy, with a lot of talent,... but we don't know him well
buaaaaa...I think this is so touching, I mean....aaaaaaaggghhhh PERKELE!!!!!!...That Marcelo son of a B*** somebody should erase him from the map, as I've always said since the rapture between Tuomas [and so, Nightwish] and Tarja...HE IS THE ONLY GUILTY IN THIS MESS...F**K YOU MARCELO CABULI!!!
I don't understand how these two didn't end up together. There are so many pic's of the two of them, even they must of thought they made a fine looking couple. No ofence to marcello but oh well the irony of it all.
No, it's not right in my opinion. Everyone knows that Tuomas did love her. Okay, he didn't admit it, but still there are so many proofs, like the songs he started wirting at century child album (at that time Tarja got married), the end of an era dvd where he cries and looks at her in a very strange way, and so on. Of course, no-one can be 100% sure but that's what I think. Also I want to remind you of Marcelo's letter in which he said that Tuomas told him that he loves Tarja.
You mean the the Husband Marcelo who made sure she would spend as little time as possible with the band? Sorry but he has lost all his credibility in my eyes. Marcelo saw the money-train in Nightwish and was more than happy to jump in. I don't want to insult you, but don't ask me to beleive this two-faced creature Marcel... I beleive in the Spirit of Nightwish and it's Mastermind Tuomas Holopainen, not in a money intended Guy who married himself into this
You mean the the Husband Marcelo who made sure she would spend as little time as possible with the band? Sorry but he has lost all his credibility in my eyes. Marcelo saw the money-train in Nightwish and was more than happy to jump in. I don't want to insult you, but don't ask me to beleive this two-faced creature Marcel... I beleive in the Spirit of Nightwish and it's Mastermind Tuomas Holopainen, not in a money intended Guy who married himself into this
What is the picture @1:08 from?
maybekrazi 5 months ago
being the argentinian girl that I am, I think that sometimes argentinian men (like Marcelo) are very open about what they feel for a woman, they tend to fight for her and insist in a way that some women may find irresistible. may be that was the case: tarja found a man who told her exactly the things she wanted to hear from a man and she fell in love with all that "latin male" stuff. nevertheless, I prefer Tuomas forever, but they might be too perfect to be together
TheQueenoftheforest 1 year ago
i think that they did love each other and they couldnt show it till now
snightstalker09 1 year ago
Oh, come on! "Forever Yours"?! "Untold Love" ?! How are you so sure about this untold love, and how are you able to talk in name of them? "Forever yours"?!
Now I'm pissed.
Yeah, they have pictures together, so? what? they are deeply in love with each other, sharing a feeling like that between Romeo&Juliet?!
Wake the hell up! they have been in the SAME band for 9 YEARS! They saw each other every single bloody day (well, except holidays and stuff like that )!
Fuck off.
This makes me sick.
WkaXD 2 years ago
@Wka, dude Tarja's husband said that Tuomas was in love with Tarja. IT might be a bullshit but it's not just pure fantasy
MoonInScorpio82 2 years ago
calm down no one knows what the fuck happen bettewen them but what i care is that whatever happen end up with tarja being fire and humillate by her " friends"
mariaepbj 2 years ago
Hey, take it easy! :S you are getting sick needlessly
yep, they were together through 9 years & it's natural to see them in a lot of pictures I agree, it doesn't mean they had a secret love story
but,come on! they're just personal opinions, & your comment will not change it
maybe they're wrong
or you could be wrong
No one knows
this is only speculation...there's no absolute truth
Relax man, just listen to Nightwish and enjoy
LadyPohl 1 year ago
Tuomas loved Tarja,but Tarja didn't love Tuomas that way he wasn't her type,Tarja loves Marcelo he is the love of her life,accept it now,I met Marcelo and i understand Tarja,he's a sweet,nice man,so stop the romancescene between Tuomas and Tarja that is never gonna happen,she is very happy with MARCELO.....
lekkertoetje37 2 years ago 4
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lekkertoetje37 2 years ago
I really think Tuomas loved Tarja but maybe he felt sad that Tarja married Marcelo, and that Tarja changed a lot when Marcelo came. Tuomas felt bad and maybe fired Taja because of it. But Tuomas and Tarja made a perfect couple!
fantasyminas 2 years ago
que triste carajo!!! eso no tendria que haber pasado, es una de esas cosas que no cierrran. LA cantante esta nueva...bueno. podria despacharme largo rato sobre lo vaga, haragana que es para cantar y su actitud nwe roker tipo Garbage. Simplemente no llena el lugar para Nightwish. Pero no hablo de llenar el lugar de Tarja, es imposible, pero ni siquiera llena el de ella misma. No da lo mejor de si y eso se nota, y la banda deberia reemplazarla ya. La piba esta que se dedique al rock adolescente
gabrielnakalo 2 years ago
yo misma he pensado exactamente en lo mismo, posiblemente si las cosas hubieran sucedido asi todavia tendriamos a la banda junta. No digo que Anette sea mala cantante ni nada por el estilo, si no que simplemente no es lo mismo
hellgirl84 2 years ago
soo many beautiful pictures in it! Good Work!
KindDerEwigkeit 2 years ago
its a pity...tarja is the best sing for nightwish
KlariisNightwish 2 years ago 7
sheet happens...
jackiecrab 2 years ago
3.26 <3 XD!!!
sweeeeeeeet!!!
LunaticInsaneMad 2 years ago 2
tarjatuomasNIGHTWISH!!!fuck th rest
miksix76 2 years ago 4
If Tuomas had loved ger, he would never has treated her this way and would never has let the other man rob her.
Herzenschatten 2 years ago 3
They were so beautiful togheter....
Nathalena 2 years ago 6
The video is great. And I think... we all know that Tarja and Toumas aren't together. So I think we don't have to argue. Nightwish with Tarja was great! And now it's great, too, but different...
TVgirlie 3 years ago 5
oh! since i started to listen to nightwish I always thought that some lyrics of nightwish songs made by tuomas are referred to tarja in a "romantic"way,maybe a "courtly love"??????
nicometal88 3 years ago 4
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TVgirlie 3 years ago
My second try^^... In my first comment I only wrote shit.
I thought the same. But since I've seen their website, I knew that they aren't and weren't together.I've read that Tarja is married and I was really shocked.^^
TVgirlie 3 years ago
i know tarja is married but i still think that this fact inspired tuomas to write such lyrics even more,the feeling that you have when you love a girl and this girl loves another man,not you........
nicometal88 3 years ago 23
my thoughts exactly... which i think constituted even more for kicker her out when she began using the band to advert her solo career... thats losing the woman you love to another man and then getting stabbed in the back too... in my opinion it was tuomas' only course of action there... and thus Bye Bye Beautiful was written!
kharntb 2 years ago
Toumas stated numerous times that the lyrics and music he wrote where not for Tarja..so please stop making nightwish a imposible love story cause its not...toumas is a great artist and just like Tarja, he has a life outside this band
poe2000ro 2 years ago 5
Of course they were supposed to be together! *crying*
Lidaria 3 years ago
great video! "an untold love"... hm, it was about time to start saying some truths..aloud! great work!
ProphetCassandra 3 years ago
PoetaOdoris halts Maul -_-
Das Video is toll und fertig..
Laarueh 3 years ago
uuhhh, das video ist vielleicht sogar grossartig, aber die nachricht dahinter ist vielleicht n riisen mist
das ist meine meinung, und da zumindest ICH in einem freien land lebe, darf ich die auch äussern ohne mich gleich beleidigen lassen zu müssen...
btw this is an international page... youre allowed to write in english, so more people can understand you and give you thumbs up!
PoetaOdoris 3 years ago
2:34
This the real Nightwish!
Nightwish Rulez!!
darkitha32 3 years ago 4
Beautiful video ^_^
Any specific location you got the pictures?
LindziBrap 3 years ago
hey, who are you???!!!
who are you that you think you have got the right to make decisions or to make videos about possible things in tuomas/tarjas or whoevers life???
PoetaOdoris 3 years ago
why should not she do so?
FortunesOfHeaven 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
because its stupid and after more than one year anette was chosen people should finally stop discussing all that stuff!!!
and for those romantics who still believe in this tuomas-tarja relationship thing; tarja is married...
PoetaOdoris 3 years ago
so?
ProphetCassandra 3 years ago
so forget all that stuff
let tarja be tarja and let tuomas be tuomas AND let anette be anette
so!
xD
PoetaOdoris 3 years ago 2
i have never been a fan of mediocrity. and i won't start doing this now.
ProphetCassandra 3 years ago
so do i
its just my opinion that the message behind this video is stupid
its like youd affect some other persons life! and i dont like that
of course the video and the song are awesome... but i just say, forget this tuomas tarja thing... -.-
its not on us to make decisions about tuomas life
sorry, maybe i was a little bit harsh, but im just so sick of all these discussions about nightwish, about tuomas, tarja and anette!!!
i love nw and i dont care about other ppls opinion of them!
PoetaOdoris 3 years ago 2
Ooh, what song is this from? It's gorgeous!!!
grace7777 3 years ago
The song is called 'Forever Yours' =)
It's from Nightwish... ;)
FallenNorthernStar 3 years ago
Nightwish-Forever yours-this is the song
xenagabbi 3 years ago
-and looks that sophisticated but he is older than her)
Ozbeach 3 years ago
Oh yes! it would have been perfect if Tarja had loved Tuomas...
Tarja would still be with NW, NW would still be this magic band (they lost their magic with her departure) and Tuomas would be a happier chap. Wishful thinking that was never meant to be...
You can't force somone to love a person. I actually find they don't make a credible couple. She looks older and more sophisticatated than him.(not that her ugly husb
Ozbeach 3 years ago 2
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her husband is pretty nice))))
ElenaRuz 2 years ago
If Tuomas really wanted to be with her he had to tell her, and not taking her off of Nightwish just because he was jealous.
I don't see anything wrong with Marcelo, he's latin as I am.
Tuomas discriminates our people, how gay!
GothicShadikal 3 years ago
He doesn't discriminate latin people. You probably didn't understand.
Marcelo had that stupid macho attitude "She's mine" in his answers that really pissed me off. Luckyly not all latin people are like that.
MadSurgeon84 3 years ago 6
No, only the argentins.
LadyPudrete666 3 years ago
you are very stupid.
tuomas are a poet he is the best person with a deeper heart, and marcelo like others latin people want money only cuz in his contry dont have money
musikmood 3 years ago
how can you know that?
we just know his music, maybe he is totally different live
we can't know it, just his friends and family...
after all, he is a mistery
sopotito 3 years ago
well I am from mexico, we are a poor contry and all the latins people too. toumas dont need lie.
but is true the opportunism have a mask and falsehood, but when you look with loving eyes, you never see the true.
musikmood 3 years ago
I'm latin too, even when I'm not feel that, I'm from Chile, and I say that Tuomas is a normal guy, with a lot of talent,... but we don't know him well
sopotito 3 years ago
Well, what I can say. Marceollo is a b*tch. I would kill him for his sins, as tangakki writed. He will burn in hell.
Beltatr 3 years ago
buaaaaa...I think this is so touching, I mean....aaaaaaaggghhhh PERKELE!!!!!!...That Marcelo son of a B*** somebody should erase him from the map, as I've always said since the rapture between Tuomas [and so, Nightwish] and Tarja...HE IS THE ONLY GUILTY IN THIS MESS...F**K YOU MARCELO CABULI!!!
danyDiva 3 years ago
it's so sad!!! they are meant to be.
sparris666 3 years ago 2
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa siso ustaska!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wowarlord 3 years ago
I don't understand how these two didn't end up together. There are so many pic's of the two of them, even they must of thought they made a fine looking couple. No ofence to marcello but oh well the irony of it all.
Thankful101 3 years ago
were those two in love or or just one loved an other?
TearsOfAnAngel6 4 years ago
Nobody loved eachother... only in a platonic way... when asked, Tuomas replied the only love they had toghether was the music
Tangakkai 4 years ago
No, it's not right in my opinion. Everyone knows that Tuomas did love her. Okay, he didn't admit it, but still there are so many proofs, like the songs he started wirting at century child album (at that time Tarja got married), the end of an era dvd where he cries and looks at her in a very strange way, and so on. Of course, no-one can be 100% sure but that's what I think. Also I want to remind you of Marcelo's letter in which he said that Tuomas told him that he loves Tarja.
Kinslayer89 3 years ago 17
You mean the the Husband Marcelo who made sure she would spend as little time as possible with the band? Sorry but he has lost all his credibility in my eyes. Marcelo saw the money-train in Nightwish and was more than happy to jump in. I don't want to insult you, but don't ask me to beleive this two-faced creature Marcel... I beleive in the Spirit of Nightwish and it's Mastermind Tuomas Holopainen, not in a money intended Guy who married himself into this
Tangakkai 3 years ago
You mean the the Husband Marcelo who made sure she would spend as little time as possible with the band? Sorry but he has lost all his credibility in my eyes. Marcelo saw the money-train in Nightwish and was more than happy to jump in. I don't want to insult you, but don't ask me to beleive this two-faced creature Marcel... I beleive in the Spirit of Nightwish and it's Mastermind Tuomas Holopainen, not in a money intended Guy who married himself into this
Tangakkai 3 years ago
Nice work man!!5-stars from me!
RazedAngel 4 years ago 2
i weep...
uncaressedamaranth 4 years ago
Awesome video, thanks for the work, good job
CChurchFan 4 years ago