So basically, if someone has a criminal record, from then on, for however long they continue to grace this earth, their life is worthless and can be taken casually (and with pleasure) by the authorities<-- and it's all justified. Seriously, as soon as you have a record, you're not even a second class citizen. Your a cockroach scum waiting for obliteration.
I am disgusted by the fact that race has been brought into this case. I live in san francisco and my neighbor was a former BART police officer. The BART police officers receive 8 hours and sometimes less training. I think that bringing race into this issue is pulling America back. Race should not be a factor in this. The officer pulled his gun instead of his taser and made a mistake. Involuntary Manslaughter was the right decision.
@ladondaruler If you don't condone violence, why do you assume what the cop did was murder? Only a person with a savage mind would pass judgement on someone without trial.
@cdaparic I don't know if you're just racist or plain stupid. I've seen the video and have further looked into the case. For instant, cops are trained to hold a taser with their left hand and their pistol with both hand. He held his weapon with both hands which leads me to believe he knew what he was doing. Also his taser is on his left side and his pistol on his right. And last but not least, there was no reason to tase Grant if he was faced down with another officer assisting him.
@cdaparic Also the fact that I don't condone violence is more of a reason for me to speak out against this act of murder. Didn't Gandhi and Martin Luther King speak out against violence. And a person with a savage mind could care less if this was murder or not. What is wrong with you mindset. Are you that anti african american that you are trying to rewrite definitions and come up with your own interpretations. Yea Im a savage behind a keyboard. I might flip out and rip it apart while typing
@cdaparic You have been attacking me over and over for absolutely no reason. Your opinion is bias and you do not seek justice whatsoever. You want the cop to be set free regardless if he's guilty or not. People like you make our society a sad and dark place to live in. This world of ours seem so hopeless because we have people like you who don't care about others, only your selfish agenda. Sad, but people like you live forever and the good die young.
@cdaparic Keep on attacking me racist. You don't know me and never will. You are the evil one roaming the face of the earth and continue to vent and lash out against people who haven't done you anything. You said there were two types of black people but its clear you only believe in one. Because I haven't given you a reason to say anything bad about me yet you continue to lash out for no reason. You're a flat out racist and you know it.
@ladondaruler Some of my best friends are black. I just liked getting a rise out of you. I don't give a crap about all this. The face of the world will change, but will always stay the same.
@cdaparic The most common defense,"I have black friends". Yet you get on youtube and disrespect black people by calling us savages. You're a liar and racist. And of course you're trying to get a rise out of me, your racist mindset leads you to do this. You could have responded to me like a man and not like a child. See children try to get a rise out of people, men don't find this kind of behavior entertaining at all. So you also have a alot of growing up to do.
@ladondaruler If you saw how Oakland responded yesterday, I don't think you would call that a peaceful protest. And most of the "protesters" were black. I could go forever with this but I'll be the bigger man and walk away. Have a nice day.
@cdaparic Of course most of them were black, the issue revolves around a black person being murdered in cold blood. What, you expect asians,mexicans, etc. to be fired up and riot. Do you see Americans rioting for Greece's financial woes? Common sense, its a majority black city with an unjust verdict. Im not saying its right, but rioting goes on all over the world. Not just in Oakland. And its usually the result of grave injustice. Get off your high horse and find a cure for your racial sickness
Typical!!! Let's defend a known criminal with bad record. And how can you judge the police officer? When you are in a tense situation youre not thinking about the weight of your gun, taser, or otherwise.
@cdaparic Well you don't need to be a police officer. THINKING is part of your job. And regardless of Oscar Grant's past, doesn't merit death. And Im glad you feel this way about the weight of a gun vs. a taser because you or someone you love can be the next victim.
@ladondaruler You're just another person that thinks they know everything about everything. If it were the other way around, Grant shooting the cop in the back, you wouldn't give a shit.
@cdaparic Don't try and act like you know me. You don't know anything about me. And regardless if it was the cop doing the shooting or the other way around it's still wrong. Your problem is closet racism at the very least. All blacks are this way and the cops should always be allowed to use deadly force when dealing with minorities. But the tables are turning and soon karma will do what it do best.
@ladondaruler I know you better than you think. Just like most blacks in Oakland you wouldn't want anything less than the death sentence for the cop. If he doesn't get it, than you're all gonna start with the violence again. You think if they wanted peace they would behave like savages?
@cdaparic So I guess I should assume that all whites think like you. Trying to place all blacks in one category is pure stupidity. How well do you know yourself. Because you sound like you need to do some soul searching while you trying to judge other people.
@ladondaruler i'm not white. And, i don't put all black people in one category. It's more like two categories: 1) Dirt bag thugs, gangsters, thieves, rapists, etc. 2) Honest working citizens that deal with problems civilized, not rioting on the streets and taking the advantage to committ crimes.
@cdaparic Well with that being said how can you claim you know me. Have I made any remarks toward rioting of any sorts. But you claim you know me better than I think, but you don't know which category to place me in. You just made an assumption that I condone violence without first talking to me. That right there leads me to believe you are racist, whether you're white or not. How about you ask me my views first. I already said killing is wrong no matter what. So do you really know me.
Citizens can do their little riot, which they call "their form of justice". But they're ONLY harming innocent shop owners and people who are trying to drive down the street. Anarchists are the ones taking advantage of this. Do they HONESTLY care about Mr. Grant? No, most of these "protesters" care about destroying the government.
Just because it was him, a human being, who pulled the trigger, doesn't mean it's murder. What matters is what his state of mind was at the time - did he do it on purpose? Testimonies don't point to that. The rest of the evidence doesn't point to that. That's not an opinion, that's the LAW.
This officer is NOT guilty of murder. Anyone who thinks so is blind. Under California Penal Code Section 192, voluntary manslaughter is, "any unintentional killing that results from lawful or unlawful actions" and involuntary manslaughter is, "any killing that results from a sudden fight or quarrel". It's clear that either manslaughter variant is what Mehserle is guilty of.
@DawnPatrol21 A fight or quarrel. This was neither. This was an execution. He reached for his weapon,stood up and fired. He had time to think. That is murder. Close your eyes to the facts and try to misinterpret the law all you want. But this is clear as day.
@ladondaruler: Fine then. Call it "murder". That's what a lot of the public thinks anyway. We'll see what the judge AND jury says when they're through. Because it is their decision that actually matters.
the police are wrong, the bart videos not work? taking away cameras from the people and then saying they were blank? the system is polluted and must be cleansed. Either the cops do it which they wont or many people will which they will. My comments are the obvious and I support the right thing being done, which it inevitably will. Sociopath police lost their heart. People Be Safe.
@bessiedoralee bringing up the past is a strategy lawyers use all the time to sway a jury and it could possibly happen in this trial. It will depend on how much the judge allows.
MAN U REALLY SHOULD DO YOUR RESEARCH. "JURY SELECTION IN THE JOHANNES MESERLE CASE IN THE KILLING OF OSCAR GRANT" THIS AINT HIS TRIAL THIS IS ABOUT JUSTICE FOR OSCAR GRANT. I CAN ALREADY TELL THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER FUCKD UP SCENARIO THE SELECTED AN ALL WHITE JURY WHEN THE VICITIM IS BLACK. LA'S JUSTICE SYSTEM IS WACK
Ass rape the mothafucka in prison every day on principle alone. Stupid cocksucka shouldn't be aloud to live.
spagandtuna 1 year ago
So basically, if someone has a criminal record, from then on, for however long they continue to grace this earth, their life is worthless and can be taken casually (and with pleasure) by the authorities<-- and it's all justified. Seriously, as soon as you have a record, you're not even a second class citizen. Your a cockroach scum waiting for obliteration.
cymonebreathe 1 year ago
Streetgangs ?!!..Who are your shareholders the New World Order ? (Rome).....Ps, What's in a name right ?....Peace remember....
freedombiteback 1 year ago
I am disgusted by the fact that race has been brought into this case. I live in san francisco and my neighbor was a former BART police officer. The BART police officers receive 8 hours and sometimes less training. I think that bringing race into this issue is pulling America back. Race should not be a factor in this. The officer pulled his gun instead of his taser and made a mistake. Involuntary Manslaughter was the right decision.
TheEIements 1 year ago
@ladondaruler If you don't condone violence, why do you assume what the cop did was murder? Only a person with a savage mind would pass judgement on someone without trial.
cdaparic 1 year ago
@cdaparic I don't know if you're just racist or plain stupid. I've seen the video and have further looked into the case. For instant, cops are trained to hold a taser with their left hand and their pistol with both hand. He held his weapon with both hands which leads me to believe he knew what he was doing. Also his taser is on his left side and his pistol on his right. And last but not least, there was no reason to tase Grant if he was faced down with another officer assisting him.
ladondaruler 1 year ago
@cdaparic Also the fact that I don't condone violence is more of a reason for me to speak out against this act of murder. Didn't Gandhi and Martin Luther King speak out against violence. And a person with a savage mind could care less if this was murder or not. What is wrong with you mindset. Are you that anti african american that you are trying to rewrite definitions and come up with your own interpretations. Yea Im a savage behind a keyboard. I might flip out and rip it apart while typing
ladondaruler 1 year ago
@cdaparic You have been attacking me over and over for absolutely no reason. Your opinion is bias and you do not seek justice whatsoever. You want the cop to be set free regardless if he's guilty or not. People like you make our society a sad and dark place to live in. This world of ours seem so hopeless because we have people like you who don't care about others, only your selfish agenda. Sad, but people like you live forever and the good die young.
ladondaruler 1 year ago
@ladondaruler Society will always be sad and dark because of all types of reason's and all type's of people, including you.
cdaparic 1 year ago
@cdaparic Keep on attacking me racist. You don't know me and never will. You are the evil one roaming the face of the earth and continue to vent and lash out against people who haven't done you anything. You said there were two types of black people but its clear you only believe in one. Because I haven't given you a reason to say anything bad about me yet you continue to lash out for no reason. You're a flat out racist and you know it.
ladondaruler 1 year ago
@ladondaruler Some of my best friends are black. I just liked getting a rise out of you. I don't give a crap about all this. The face of the world will change, but will always stay the same.
cdaparic 1 year ago
@cdaparic The most common defense,"I have black friends". Yet you get on youtube and disrespect black people by calling us savages. You're a liar and racist. And of course you're trying to get a rise out of me, your racist mindset leads you to do this. You could have responded to me like a man and not like a child. See children try to get a rise out of people, men don't find this kind of behavior entertaining at all. So you also have a alot of growing up to do.
ladondaruler 1 year ago
@ladondaruler If you saw how Oakland responded yesterday, I don't think you would call that a peaceful protest. And most of the "protesters" were black. I could go forever with this but I'll be the bigger man and walk away. Have a nice day.
cdaparic 1 year ago
@cdaparic Of course most of them were black, the issue revolves around a black person being murdered in cold blood. What, you expect asians,mexicans, etc. to be fired up and riot. Do you see Americans rioting for Greece's financial woes? Common sense, its a majority black city with an unjust verdict. Im not saying its right, but rioting goes on all over the world. Not just in Oakland. And its usually the result of grave injustice. Get off your high horse and find a cure for your racial sickness
ladondaruler 1 year ago
@ladondaruler: Verdict just came in - involuntary manslaughter. Not voluntary, but involuntary. Also know as negligent homicide.
DawnPatrol21 1 year ago
Typical!!! Let's defend a known criminal with bad record. And how can you judge the police officer? When you are in a tense situation youre not thinking about the weight of your gun, taser, or otherwise.
cdaparic 1 year ago
@cdaparic Well you don't need to be a police officer. THINKING is part of your job. And regardless of Oscar Grant's past, doesn't merit death. And Im glad you feel this way about the weight of a gun vs. a taser because you or someone you love can be the next victim.
ladondaruler 1 year ago
@ladondaruler You're just another person that thinks they know everything about everything. If it were the other way around, Grant shooting the cop in the back, you wouldn't give a shit.
cdaparic 1 year ago
@cdaparic Don't try and act like you know me. You don't know anything about me. And regardless if it was the cop doing the shooting or the other way around it's still wrong. Your problem is closet racism at the very least. All blacks are this way and the cops should always be allowed to use deadly force when dealing with minorities. But the tables are turning and soon karma will do what it do best.
ladondaruler 1 year ago
@ladondaruler I know you better than you think. Just like most blacks in Oakland you wouldn't want anything less than the death sentence for the cop. If he doesn't get it, than you're all gonna start with the violence again. You think if they wanted peace they would behave like savages?
cdaparic 1 year ago
@cdaparic So I guess I should assume that all whites think like you. Trying to place all blacks in one category is pure stupidity. How well do you know yourself. Because you sound like you need to do some soul searching while you trying to judge other people.
ladondaruler 1 year ago
@ladondaruler i'm not white. And, i don't put all black people in one category. It's more like two categories: 1) Dirt bag thugs, gangsters, thieves, rapists, etc. 2) Honest working citizens that deal with problems civilized, not rioting on the streets and taking the advantage to committ crimes.
cdaparic 1 year ago
@cdaparic Well with that being said how can you claim you know me. Have I made any remarks toward rioting of any sorts. But you claim you know me better than I think, but you don't know which category to place me in. You just made an assumption that I condone violence without first talking to me. That right there leads me to believe you are racist, whether you're white or not. How about you ask me my views first. I already said killing is wrong no matter what. So do you really know me.
ladondaruler 1 year ago
Citizens can do their little riot, which they call "their form of justice". But they're ONLY harming innocent shop owners and people who are trying to drive down the street. Anarchists are the ones taking advantage of this. Do they HONESTLY care about Mr. Grant? No, most of these "protesters" care about destroying the government.
DawnPatrol21 1 year ago
Just because it was him, a human being, who pulled the trigger, doesn't mean it's murder. What matters is what his state of mind was at the time - did he do it on purpose? Testimonies don't point to that. The rest of the evidence doesn't point to that. That's not an opinion, that's the LAW.
DawnPatrol21 1 year ago
This officer is NOT guilty of murder. Anyone who thinks so is blind. Under California Penal Code Section 192, voluntary manslaughter is, "any unintentional killing that results from lawful or unlawful actions" and involuntary manslaughter is, "any killing that results from a sudden fight or quarrel". It's clear that either manslaughter variant is what Mehserle is guilty of.
DawnPatrol21 1 year ago
@DawnPatrol21 A fight or quarrel. This was neither. This was an execution. He reached for his weapon,stood up and fired. He had time to think. That is murder. Close your eyes to the facts and try to misinterpret the law all you want. But this is clear as day.
ladondaruler 1 year ago
@ladondaruler: Fine then. Call it "murder". That's what a lot of the public thinks anyway. We'll see what the judge AND jury says when they're through. Because it is their decision that actually matters.
DawnPatrol21 1 year ago
the police are wrong, the bart videos not work? taking away cameras from the people and then saying they were blank? the system is polluted and must be cleansed. Either the cops do it which they wont or many people will which they will. My comments are the obvious and I support the right thing being done, which it inevitably will. Sociopath police lost their heart. People Be Safe.
888Kharami 1 year ago
I hope this son of a bitch is found guilty. Make this man an example that cops are not above the law.
draconian45 1 year ago
There's only two Hispanics and an Indian , rest are white! For the jury , Hispanics them selfs are going threw rough times as well
Bigbruhakacreepz 1 year ago
If this cop gets off... You know the RIOT will follow
MrThetruthsucks 1 year ago
@bessiedoralee bringing up the past is a strategy lawyers use all the time to sway a jury and it could possibly happen in this trial. It will depend on how much the judge allows.
streetgangs 1 year ago
@streetgangs can you keep me updated on this story brother
rothel4u 1 year ago
Get ready for a riot when white BART police officer is found NOT GUILTY.
Beatbyawhiteboy 1 year ago
MAN U REALLY SHOULD DO YOUR RESEARCH. "JURY SELECTION IN THE JOHANNES MESERLE CASE IN THE KILLING OF OSCAR GRANT" THIS AINT HIS TRIAL THIS IS ABOUT JUSTICE FOR OSCAR GRANT. I CAN ALREADY TELL THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER FUCKD UP SCENARIO THE SELECTED AN ALL WHITE JURY WHEN THE VICITIM IS BLACK. LA'S JUSTICE SYSTEM IS WACK
tharealtreal 1 year ago
@tharealtreal The jury is almost entirely hispanic.
TruMorbid 1 year ago