«αυτός δε ήκεν εις Αθήνας, και τον των Παναθηναίων αγώνα επετέλει, εν ω ο Μίνωος παις Ανδρόγεως ενίκησε πάντας. τούτον Αιγεύς επί τόν Μαραθώνιον έπεμψε ταύρον, υφ ου διεφθάρη μετ ου πολώ δε θαλασσοκρατών επολέμησε στολω τας Αθήνας» (Απολλόδωρος Γ 15. 7 και 8)
sadly for you friend minoans were as greeks as the rest peoples of the mainland and the rest of islands..
1.
a. evans in his excavations in crete he found grammic incriptions that have 17 similar or exactly the same symbols in comparison with the symbols of the 24 letters of greek alphabet
2.
grammic a&b were found also in mycines,thebes.. and also in the coasts of danube along with other foundings of greek origin of that period
There is either no or limited scientific proof to the anthropological & cultural connections of the "Minoans" with the "Greeks".
Nevertheless, it is a fact that Myceneans & later Dorians "colonised" Crete & the "Minoans" eventually blended into the melting pot of what we now call the Greeks.
We are aware of history & although we cannot be sure that "Minoans" were "Greeks", it is a safe assumption that at least part of them became the "Greeks"
file mou i kriti den eksellinistike apo tous axaious i tous dorieis.. den yparhei stoiheio eksellinismou i afomiosis i metakiniseis poleon apo polemous i kapsimo i otidipote ola eginan eirinika mono i elite allaze opos as poume stin sparti yparhei i epohi ton atreidon meta i epohi ton irakleidon..
Laistigonas, i agree with you that there are no clues of hellenization of minoan crete.
Unfortunately, we can neither argue safely that minoans were Greeks nor can we argue that they weren't.
There can be heated debate about the matter, but not certainty beyond doubt.
One think is for sure and beyond doubt; Minoans and later Eteocretans are part of the same mold that made the "classical Greeks" (if one can put all the Greeks in one as city states have not been very amicable or neighborly)
Ουκούν ούτοι, οι Κρήτες, παλαιοτάτοις νόμοις χρώνται των Ελλήνων» Σωκράτηs
Laistrigonas 2 years ago
«Πολυκράτης γαρ εστί πρώτος των ημεις ίδμεν Ελλήνων ος θαλασσοκρατέειν επενοήθη, πάρεξ Μίνω τε Κνωσσίου και ει δη τις άλλος πότερος τουτου ήρξε της Θαλάσσης.» (Ηρόδοτος Γ 121)
vince give this quotes in your finish university teachers to explain to you and then explain them to us..
Laistrigonas 2 years ago
Δευκαλίων δ εμέ τίκτε και Ιδομενήα άνακτα (Οδύσσεια, τ 178 183),
"ένθ᾽ η τοι Μίνωα ίδον, Διός αγλαόν υἱόν,
χρύσεον σκήπτρον έχοντα, θεμιστεύοντα νέκυσσιν,
ήμενον, οι δε μιν αμφί δίκας είροντο άνακτα, (οδύσσεια λ 568)
vince here is your homework 100% original quotes to get start..
next lesson after you bring your homework here!
Laistrigonas 2 years ago
«αυτός δε ήκεν εις Αθήνας, και τον των Παναθηναίων αγώνα επετέλει, εν ω ο Μίνωος παις Ανδρόγεως ενίκησε πάντας. τούτον Αιγεύς επί τόν Μαραθώνιον έπεμψε ταύρον, υφ ου διεφθάρη μετ ου πολώ δε θαλασσοκρατών επολέμησε στολω τας Αθήνας» (Απολλόδωρος Γ 15. 7 και 8)
Laistrigonas 2 years ago
shut the fuck up
Wolverines137 2 years ago
oh my god!!
sadly for you friend minoans were as greeks as the rest peoples of the mainland and the rest of islands..
1.
a. evans in his excavations in crete he found grammic incriptions that have 17 similar or exactly the same symbols in comparison with the symbols of the 24 letters of greek alphabet
2.
grammic a&b were found also in mycines,thebes.. and also in the coasts of danube along with other foundings of greek origin of that period
Laistrigonas 2 years ago
vonVince you have an axe to grind...
There is either no or limited scientific proof to the anthropological & cultural connections of the "Minoans" with the "Greeks".
Nevertheless, it is a fact that Myceneans & later Dorians "colonised" Crete & the "Minoans" eventually blended into the melting pot of what we now call the Greeks.
We are aware of history & although we cannot be sure that "Minoans" were "Greeks", it is a safe assumption that at least part of them became the "Greeks"
dmitry0808 2 years ago
file mou i kriti den eksellinistike apo tous axaious i tous dorieis.. den yparhei stoiheio eksellinismou i afomiosis i metakiniseis poleon apo polemous i kapsimo i otidipote ola eginan eirinika mono i elite allaze opos as poume stin sparti yparhei i epohi ton atreidon meta i epohi ton irakleidon..
Laistrigonas 2 years ago
Laistigonas, i agree with you that there are no clues of hellenization of minoan crete.
Unfortunately, we can neither argue safely that minoans were Greeks nor can we argue that they weren't.
There can be heated debate about the matter, but not certainty beyond doubt.
One think is for sure and beyond doubt; Minoans and later Eteocretans are part of the same mold that made the "classical Greeks" (if one can put all the Greeks in one as city states have not been very amicable or neighborly)
dmitry0808 2 years ago
That's linear A, sorry. But surely any study of Greek history should begin with the Minoans? I am speaking of Greece solely as a geographical entity.
Palearch 2 years ago
I know. I even mentioned that their script, linear B, has not been deciphered.
Palearch 2 years ago