Keith Thompson VS Nadir Ahmed Debate: Is Paul a true apostle? 6/8

[lionabbass]

its amazing that church rose up from jewish temple/synagogue by the hands of the christians. it is in the same strength that baptism rose, too. paul preached a different gospel in many matters including dietary laws. if only this matter is put under the microscope that is enough against paul. but he opposed many disciples including peter who he called hypocrite that you will agree a non eyewitness should have no right over a person who was there, except if he were a prophet of God and paul wasnt

[Taomeano]

Keith, Nadir is below you. You wasted your time debating him, because he made assertions without backing them up. To him, everything is a lie. All churches lied to justify the doctrine of Jesus Christ asserts Nadir, but he does not provide any evidence. Nadir does not know how to debate. You totally defeated him. Yes like you said you smoked Nadir big time.

[CorrosionX3]

To Nadir, the only true Gospel of Jesus must be the one where Jesus claimed to be a muslim and he was just a prophet. And he talks about blind faith...

[blackshadowsnoopy]

Nadir kept using the Ebionites rejection of Paul as evidence that Paul was false, yet he chided you about using Polycarp and others to support Paul. Is this hypocrisy ? I'm wondering what kind of evidence would be sufficient for Nadir to prove Paul was not a heretic ? Is it bad to ask the opponent what kind of evidence actually would suffice for them ? I suspect ultimately, despite the evidence, at the end of the day it is simply a matter of faith.

[followerofjesus1984]

we dont say paul is a prophet, but more a personal representive of Christ

[IslamAyaat]

Why does Nadir's voice keep cutting?

[crekow]

Ireneaus wrote: "It is incumbent to obey the presbyters who are in the Church—those who possess the succession from the apostles; those who, together with the succession of the episcopate, have received the infallible charism of truth, according to the good pleasure of the Father. But it is also incumbent to hold in suspicion others who depart from the primitive succession, and assemble themselves together in any place whatsoever, either as heretics of perverse minds, or as schismatics..."

[crekow]

In 189 AD, Irenaeus wrote: "..since it would be too long to enumerate in such a volume as this the successions of all the churches, we shall confound all those who, in whatever manner, whether through self-satisfaction or vainglory, or through blindness and wicked opinion, assemble other than where it is proper, by pointing out here the successions of the bishops of the greatest and most ancient church known to all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul"

[SonofJaphet]

Its fun to see Muslims scholars debate Christians because with their lies the truth comes more strongly and it glorifies Jesus as the true Messiah yes the more they lie the more they testify that Islam is a false religion

[Demsome333]

Nadir is not presenting the sources of his info. He is just rambling. He isn't quoting anyone or anything. Nor has he refuted Keiths sources. Nadir LOST this debate.

[TheIncredibletruth]

Propaganda usually focuses on showing the main characters, in a heroic and infallible light.

Yet Paul and Apostles expose all their flaws and sins in scripture, even to the extent that it shows that Paul persecuted the Christians. Is there even one piece of propaganda in the world, that shows the sins and flaws of the main heroic characters? There goes your sorry excuse for a case Nadir Achmed.

Christ is Lord!

[footpedaldave]

PRAISE THE LORD JESUS WHO IS RISEN!!!they who are in darkness cannot comprehend the Light.Nadir has no basis for his argument that theres no evidence for Paul being a false prophet. he keeps saying the same thing over and over again.he's clearly out of his league and deceived.he doesn't listen.he doesn't provide any evidence to believe in allah or any other deity.well any way,great job in earnestly contending for the faith.the victory is already ours.HALLELUJAH TO THE LAMB OF GOD!!!

[2007alberto2007]

Excellent Job Keith.

[thegreatonecometh200]

kieth did a horrible job if pauls letters were during jesus time why didnt jesus make him an apostle paul in his own letters calls himself a prophet jesus and the apostles never do

[KeithTruth]

I never claimed his letters were around in Jesus' time. I said that in his letters are early creeds that date back to Jesus' time. sheesh you can't listen very well.

[kaneose]

I know that this does not have to do with the topic, but why there so much fuss over the existence of Jesus and not so much over Plato? Is it because Plato was seen as a son of a deity? Just wondering.

[tuber153]

Now during debate shabir did make a mistake as to say thomas gosple is accepted as MANY to be before Mark...As not MANY accept this althought they do accept certian passages were before Mark.some parrables.

ps the debate i referd to was the bola uni debate. cnt rember whats it called though u had to have been there to say anything on it.

[KeithTruth]

Yes ally did make a blunder and so did you. Some (a few fringe critics) claim Thomas in a few places used the theoretical "q" source. Thats it. But that is refuted with the work that has been done in proving that thomas is reliant on the dietteseron. Which puts it at late 2nd century.

Plus your fellow muslim yahya heydar seymor said White beat shabir.

[musliminshallah]

you did a good job kieth i like the way you show evidence, but this aint shabir ally its nadir ahmed if im correct? thanks for the debate

[LokiTeslar2012]

lmao nadir doesnt know what a debate is.. hasn't really raised anything....

[someguy6481]

Nadir didn't even bother preparing *rolls eyes*, since he keeps saying that "christianity is a religion of 100% pure blind faith" so are all other religions, including his. Furthermore we know little of the Ebionites & the only referances of them are from the Church fathers in polemics against the Ebionites such as Justin Martyr, Irenaeus & Origen. So we have little to go on.

[xchampx]

this guy nadir is a JOKEEE!! Is her SERIOUS? This guy has to reject all history. All and i mean ALL. You smoked him Keith. The truth will always prevail. Jesus is Lord.