Your test is very interesting, you seem to have stumbled on a severe openoffice performance bug indeed. Have you tried opening the file with openoffice in Windows? How does it compare? Have you waited for the file to finish opening?
I've tried your file on my Ubuntu 11.10 desktop (Athlon II 640) and it also took a long time to open in openoffice. However, most of the time I use gnumeric for such tasks, and I took a chance on it. Guess what: it took only 25 seconds to open your file!
My test. Core2Duo 2.4ghz 4mbyte shared cache. 3gbyte ram, nvidia 9600gt 512ram 256-mbit bus. Linux Ubuntu 11.10 with newest libre office. Windows: Windows 7 with office 2010. each 5 columns with 500,000 rows with 2 columns product function formula.
I tried this on newest libre calc in ubuntu 11.10 and it took me 1 minute and half to paste to 500,000 rows with formulas with 5 columns. I closed it and opened it and it took 1 minute and 40 minutes in ods file format. In windows 7 excel 2010 it took me 3 seconds to paste to 500,000 cells with formulas and 5 columns, 4 seconds to save. and 5 seconds to open it.
But Ubuntu 11.10, libre office used 100% cpu resources 500Mbyte and froze while excel 2010 used 5% cpu and 125Mbyte ram.
@dalexandruz Open Office is slow and a resource hog due to the java dependency. Java will always be slow to execute AND eat a lot of resources (never liked Java). No point using that infernal crap, even updating that shit is useless since they expect you to download a 150 MB package every time. Soon there will be a new alternative to both Libre and Open Office written for compatability and speed.
@lienucksfails2 On Mint that is, not Linux. Linux is just the Kernel much as the NTkernel is just the Windows kernel. You should really try out some other distro one of these days. It's getting slow as you can see. However, BSD owns everything. ;)
The desperation of the Windows user to eliminate Linux is amazing. Here we find a video comparing Excel, a MS product made 4 a MS product to an open source product that`s included with Linux, then proudly proclaims victory. Really, Really ? Is that the best you can do? Here is a challenge. Compare real Linux components to MS equals. I would make suggestions, but i know it will Never
Ever happen, but the effort is truly comical. Meanwhile i will remain a Linux user. ?
@Cameron9242008 This video proves that Open Source products are vastly inferior in quality and performance, mainly due to the limited funded that usually comes with such projects.
The funding dries up and you're left with a semi-working (half assed) off suit such as Open Office in this case that struggles to open up a file that Excel opens up in mere seconds.
Kdenlive/Openshot/Cinderall (video editors) are the same thing = useless. What is stopping you from using MS Office (for free)?
Linux is trying... still trying to be a good OS for personal computers. It will take a while though... What linux shines at are servers. Server market share for Linux is about 60%. So... You may not like linux as your personal computer's OS, but seriously, do not want Google to use Windows...
Do not expect the "linux for admins, windows for users" rule to break any time soon.
Now store these 500,000 rows in a database (like any sensible person would) and see which platform is faster. Mysql running on linux or MS Sql Sever running on windows.
Interesting video. As a linux fan, I have to admit that Openoffice and Libreoffice are experiencing difficulties while working with .xlsx format. However, still it is not the default format that they use ;).
WHAT the fuck is XLSX????! You are supposed to open OpenOffice or LibreOffice spreadsheet, not Excel on Linux machine!
You could test opening OpenOffice/LibreOffice document on Windows machine with same "success". Oh, wait, it does not open at all, it fails. Speaking about IEEE document interchange standard - ODF. Windows - fail.
@xyz98742 The problem occurs whether you attempt to open the sheet in linux or windows. The application is at fault here, not the OS. Though from looking at the comments here I realize that this one will be ignored as well and/or removed. Such is the way with those who show only cowardice in the face of reason.
@xyz98742@xyz98742 The Wine application DB shows it with a Bronze rating, indicating that it does work, albeit not to the standards one would expect from the platform it was intended. Also, crossover is expecting to support it within the year. Certainly these types of applications do not function as well as they would on their native platform, but it is amazing none-the-less that they work at all given that they were never written to work on the Linux platform.
@heavyal Wrong again. That's the 32-bit version of Office 2010. I bought and use the 64-bit version, which is rated garbage on Wine, direct quote from their website:
"Garbage as the Installation crashes just before the installation could begin"
In this video, I use the x64 version of MS Office.
Nonetheless, the x32 version of Office 2010, still crashes and runs buggy on Wine.
@xyz98742 My mistake, I didn't notice that you were comparing the 64 bit versions. So yes, if someone really needs the 64 bit version of Office 2010 they would be better off using Windows. Either that or install it in a virtual machine which is what I do for applications that simply won't run under Linux. Being a multi-platform programmer myself, I actually use several virtual machines, a Win7, WinXP, and a Win2000 box for legacy apps.
@xyz98742 Haha, tell my company that. We've been trying to get them to upgrade from XP for over a year now! Tonight they lost a document due to user error - I would have given my left arm to have had Windows 7's built in document recovery features!
owned again... Yes, linux can and will run windows programs.. Sorry, but maybe you could do some research before writing something stupid. For someone who runs linux , you don't know a damn thing about it.
@xyz98742 What I said above still applies, Linux sucks in the PC market share, but in other markets Linux is dominant.
"ANNNDD... how many people do you think are going to end up using a super computer" Well, not a lot, but who is going to connect to websites such as Google and Amazon, whose servers run Linux. :)
wow, the lamer deleted my video response. What a looser. Linux doesn't fail but the user LIEnucksfails2 is. What a tool haha. It's okay, my video is still up. You are still wrong. And you are doing all this for nothing. Linux is used more widely then windows is.
@pyropres Who cares. Millions use it for free. That's probably the worst excuse that you could come up to not use it. No one's stopping you, you know :)
LiENucks = Free = Windows
Nope. MS Office gives you 30 day trial (legal). Then you can just renew by reinstalling Windows :)
Legal and free :)
Oh, LOL, you are seriously an incompetent fool. Never heard of MSE? Best free anti-virus around (by Microsoft). Owned.
@xyz98742 Windows 7 is not Free. but you can "Steal it" and deal with the failing update system after you crack it. MS office is also not free. But you can also "STEAL" that. As for anti virus, lets just slap in something else that slows the computer down and take up space. You spoke of "The success of and OS" like it meant something. Every time windows is "Stolen" MS looses $. That doesn't sound too successful to me. Linux is free. And it is a complete success to what it was meant to be.
@MrSataGYPSYpitiful what market? The home computer market? What about business computing market. Linux is on 95% of all main frames. It's on most mobile phones. It's on hdtv's. It's on routers. The server YouTube is on is Linux. Your using it right now. There are probably 5 times more devices in this world that use Linux then Windows. Period. Not to mention Linux is not about making money, and Linus started writing it out of necessity and just for fun. I'd say its pretty successful.
@dr07828 *Sigh*... LiEnucks has a 1% market share on the personal computer market. Anything else = user doesn't interact with. LiEnucks is a good work horse I suppose, but not something that you wanted to work on.
Try editing a professional level movie on LiEnucks. Oh what is that? No software? Yup, thought as much. Try playing the latest games flawlessly and natively? Oh what is that? No games. Thought as much.
@MrSataGYPSYpitiful okay that's nice. I'm not a student. Also, when you download Windows and use it for 30 days, that's not free. That's a trial. Hardly convinent. I can down load Linux when ever I want, and I can use it for as long as I want. How many troll screen names do you have? You said you had 8 certs? Heh, only certs you have are the ones with retsin. And they still arn't helping your bad breath. Your stinking up YouTube.
@dr07828 What do you use LiEnucks for as a personal computing OS? Surfing the web? Thought as much. It's not for work, editing content, or gaming. It sucks.
I never said I have 8 certs you moron. Stop confusing me with your mom. LOL.
Also, I don't know about "LIEnucks" but Linux is a success. Most people running Windows. Can't even watch this video or read these comments because they get so many pop UPS they get a blue screen before the page loads.Linux on the other hand will not get a blue screen and is not vulnerable to malicious software that plagues Windows. Not to mention all the down time for defrag and patching. My win 7 machine never stops updating. I have to re boot it several times a day for updates.
@dr07828 A failure. 20 years and still at a 1% market share. I am using Windows 7 now on Chrome 12, no virus since I got it, haven't rebooted in a month or so, works flawlessly and amazing.
Have you tried Shitbuntu 11.04 with that bug ridden fucked up Unity Interface? Yup, that's what I am talking about: half assed bug ridden piece of shit SOFTWARE that doesn't work at all.
@xyz98742 Its not an issue of OS's its an issue with not only open office, but the file as well check the reply video. I hold 8 certifications. dumbass.
@xyz98742 Check the video response for you by dr07828. I hold 8 certifications, so i'm pretty confident that i'm not a dumbass and know a little bit more about this than you.
Yes and so you prove my point. Because ext3 or ext4 writes continuously it will be slower then NTFS. My main point is you are comparing apples to oranges when you should be comparing apples to apples. Mount an NTFS file system in Linux. Sure you don't know how. I can message you with how too. You will see then that Linux can write faster then Windows 7 on NTFS. I has a Linux server that has been going for 3 years and it is less then 3 percent fragmented. So why do I need a defrag tool?
I see you will not approve the video response. I don't blame you. Shows how much of a lie your video(s) is/are. You can just go ahead and take these down now. And you can close all of the fake accounts you have going. LOOSER lol.
I happen to know linux writes faster then windows on NTFS. I have in the past had NTFS mounted on linux, but you wouldn't begin to even know how to do that because you are an end user with a hard on to put down linux for some reason. As for your comment about getting windows 7 for free, Sure you can Download it, but that is stealing. You don't have to steal to get linux for free. As well you don't have to worry about microsoft genuine advantage, or updating issue.
@dr07828 Or you can get Windows 7 Home Premium for $29, or professional for $69 (students). Sure beats the heck out of getting a "free" garbage OS that nothing works on: gaming, software, hardware, etc.
Why doesn't LiEnucks still support iPods, iPhones, etc natively? 1% market share forever.
All of your videos are Bias and set up for linux to fail. they are not fair tests as well I do not see the machine(s) you are running the systems on. For all any one knows its 2 different machines. "Great stories". but you have no real proof. I am going to post some video responses. Lets see if you allow them. This video only proves one thing ,that Open office has an issue. Not linux. I have an older linux box running slackware that opens just fine ;)
@dr07828 LOL. Are you blind or something? My system specification are shown on other videos (StarCraft II) for example, open up your eyes and watch them.
All of the videos are 100% accurate and repeatable. I use the scientific method.
won't open on my windows 7 machine with a dual core. I see your other vids. They are stupid lol. You are comparing read and write speeds, when the file systems are completely different. ext3 writes contiguously and windows file systems like NTFS and fat write where ever the head is. So yeah, on a windows file system its going to go faster, but you have less fragmentation on ext3 with linux. stupid. If you run linux on NTFS it will be faster.
LiEnucks does get fragmented (to a lesser extent). But do you know what the problem is with LiEnucks? There is no online defragmentation tool. LOL. How pathetic and sad.
LoL FAIL. My 64-bit windows machine running windows 7 cannot open it. Either in works spread sheet or excel lol. So much for what you are preaching lol. You go ahead with your crusade man, its a worthless waste of time. Just one thing please. name one reason you would need to have a spread sheet with 5 million rows? lol
@dr07828 ...How ironic. You're making yourself look stupid by being in denial. You do realize that anyone reading your comment can download the spreadsheet too and find out that it's just a clean file?
This isn't Linux vs. Windows; it's OpenOffice vs. Excel.
Just out of curiosity, why is the Linux system using ~50% CPU before the test even starts? (For that matter why is the Windows system using ~30% CPU before the test even starts?) If these tests are to be meaningful, they should be done without extra stuff going on in the background.
@xyz98742 Ah, you'd do well to mention the screencasting overhead in the video description. The lack of an Excel port for Linux does not magically make the test fair. ("So there!" ;-P) The fact that different office suites were used introduces a whole slew of variables that are completely unrelated to the underlying OS. If you want a semi-objective comparison of Windows and Linux, the logical course would be to use OO on Linux and OO on Windows.
@nonoitall LOL, excuse me. I didn't know that you were brainless. Do you lack common sense? How did you think the video was recorded, with such clarity, dumbass?
The lack of an Excel port for LiEnucks proves one point: no one uses it for office productivity.
Gaming? No games for LiEnucks. Multimedia? No iPod/iPhone/iPad + gaming accessories (logitech wheels) + poor Flash 10/HD video platform.
@xyz98742 Since you're now resorting to name-calling, ignoring facts and logical fallacies, I must conclude that you are not truly interested in an objective comparison. As such, I'll leave you to your trolling. Peace.
@nonoitall LOL. Good riddens. A dumbass like you who did not even have the common sense to realize that this video was screencasted belongs in a mental asylum. So long, fucktard.
Just curiosity. I don't see how open office sucking at opening a spreadsheet means Linux fails. Open office fails for sure. It is apparent to me that if what you need from a computer is to be able to open excel spread sheets with over 5 million rows Linux is out. I'm sure if some one wrote some kind of support package for this sort of thing the problem would be solved. As it is Linux is a super powerful os that has more then 1 use and far exceeds Windows as a server.
@xyz98742 I am not going to waste my time watching your bias video's. I have seen plenty of real life proof of linux being a superior OS in many ways. not to mention plenty of videos on youtube of linux beating windows 7 at a lot of things. 1. you use one distro of linux. 2. I don't see the physical machine or any proof it's the same machine. 3. who knows how you compiled the kernel. Change a few things and yes it will suck at a lot of things. 4.you have it out for linux for some reason.
Did you even read the video description? If you really think that this test wasn't done on the same machine, or that the LiEnucks kernel was re-compiled or whatever, then just download the spreadsheet yourself (link is in the description) and try it out yourself.
What is there to lose?
I am offering you complete transparency. Download the file and test it out by yourself. Cool?
@xyz98742 Let me ask you. What kind of phone do you have? Droid? Iphone, both based off of linux. Droid is linux, iphone, and Mac of that matter are both built on BSD linux. Don't have a smart phone? chances are what ever phone you have is a *nix. How bout digital cable, satellite or a Tivo? How bout your HDTV? All running some form of embeded *nix. What kind of router are you using? most run a *nix, in fact, most of the networks in the world have routers and switches running *nix's.
@xyz98742 How much does windows 7 cost? how about linux? Hum.... You know what, I like linux, but I also like windows, and I like mac. Every one of those OS has their pro's and cons. Yo, most of the web servers in the world run linux. you must work for microsoft or something. have fun. your wrong.
Windows 7 is free (millions torrent it, what is stopping you). You can't really use "how much does it cost" argument for a software (torrenting is always an option).
But then again, I got my Windows 7 Home Premium for $29. LOL. Sure beats getting a "Free" bug ridden junk that nothing works on.
@z0m813p4n1c LOL. I love it when fanboys like you sink into denial. Guess what though? Link to download the spreadsheet tested in this video is in the description.
Have fun trying it out yourself (and realizing that you were in denial). :)
And what communication between Linux and Windows in it? Any. It Openoffice vs MS Office. But here on many parameters against both editors wins Libreoffice
The both have their pros and cons. You can not base you OS/Application choice on one point. When you move to the Enterprise Networks, you will see the the majority of servers are Linux OS, but Windows has the Enterprise Desktop. The Reason that Linux servers are used over windows is that they are more reliable in mission critical networks, where as a Windows Server 2008 R2 is prone to more crashes. IMO I use Linux because it makes my job as a network engineer easier.
Look in the thread "Rape Sandwich". Some apple fanboy talks about how macs are good. Then some linux kid talks how it's good, then admits he uses windows.
I still prefer Linux over windows because I feel way less stressed about the Drm issue lol. Software more free and , I can download the Os on as many computers As I want. now I cant really defend the open spread sheet. I never used it lol. their are alot of trade offs from picking Linux over Windows. I never had a problem converting Open office to word office at school before. I am just speaking out of personal experience here that varies for person to person.
@wooka64 What DRM issues are you talking about? You can install Windows as many times as you want on the same computer or a different computer (just need to deactivate it on the previous computer).
If you mean: why can't I install a single copy of Windows on multiple computers: buy more licences (discounted heavily).
Since I am a student, I got my Windows 7 x64 Home Premium for $29. Certainly beats getting garbage "free" software that fails at everything.
I never had any problems with open office that alot of people seem to have. A word document program is a word document program who cares. I prefer open office because I don't have to agree with the stupid license. for all those that hate on open source, I hope your not praising Python the programing language at the same time LOL. I don't care if the products are open or close as long as I am not being forced to use a drm program. I thank God for open source because now I have a choice.
I never had any problems using open office that some people seem to have. it works just fine. for all those that say open source sucks they Python the programing language must suck because its open source lol. I personal don't have a problem with windows ,but I like I said before I rather be Drm Free then use windows drm plaged stuff. In the end, If I want some thing really cool for linux I got to learn to make it myself. that's not a problem that's kind of cool.
@wooka64 DRM is not Windows related, you ignorant fool. Also, OO sucks, check all the videos on my channel, including the one in which OO is slower at opening up its own file format ODS than excel:
watch?v=iz3ki4_i-AM
And OO has ZERO backward compatibility with XLS/XLSX
@LiEnucksFAILS Ok I checked some of your videos I have two question for you. are you actually running Linux or are you emulation it? of Course Flash is going to work better for windows because its logical. If you pay someone money to do a job, you end up with a better product. like I said before, I don't agree with the Drm policy of the company making the software. I personally think windows the Os would be better, if I could install it as many times as I want on my machine.
....Have you paid attention to the videos? Both Operating systems have a base amount of RAM of 3 GB, hence, proving that LiEnucks is not emulated, it runs natively. Way to go and make a fool out of yourself.
Of course, that's the whole point: free stuff sucks *cough cough* LiEnucks.
@LiEnucksFAILS I know that I can run open-source programs on windows believe me I do run them on my windows xp machine :). according to your data and I believe it, that windows is a more efficient Os. That is if you the user can keep the system clean of viruses. That not always an easy task because of hackers. I lost two windows machines due to hackers and later I put Linux on them. Personally I glade your making the videos because the Linux has a monopoly of the Linux vs windows.
I like what your doing, and agree. However, this test is a bit skewed, is there an .ods of that spreadsheet available? Would be interesting to see native format vs. native format.
I like what your doing, and agree. However, this test is a bit skewed. is there an .ods of that spreadsheet available. Would be interesting to see native format vs. native format.
I like what your doing, and agree. However, this test is a bit skewed. is there an .ods of that spreadsheet available. Would be interesting to see native format vs. native format.
@LiEnucksFAILS any of these comparisons are sort of redundant seeing as how this video illustrates "failure" on the part of open office which has nothing to do with Linux. it's merely a CROSS PLATFORM open source project (which by the way is being abandoned and replaced by libreoffice).
And secondly, and MORE importantly, it shows that LiEnucks does not RUN good software (Office 2010 x64 does not run on LiENucks, neither does a multitude of other programs: AutoCAD, Photoshop, Sony Vegas, Final Cut, iTunes, etc).
@LiEnucksFAILS you are aware of course that every operating system REQUIRES open source code to run including Microsoft Windows. and yes linux can run all of those programs utilizing WINE
@miasmablk I knew that you'd show your ignorance to the world by mentioning WINE. That is the SAME excuse that all LiEnucks fanboys use as a last resort for any argument. But I hate to break it to ya: you ARE wrong.
Office 2010 x64, Photoshop CS5 x64, AutoCAD 2011 x64, and most games such as GTA IV, WOW, etc
DO NOT RUN ON LiENUCKS (whether it be the shitty bug ridden WiNE as you mentioned or anything else).
oh excuse me i must have missed the x64 tag on your ridiculous loaded premise. the fact is that wine does support these programs in x86, additionally why should the owness be on linux to support proprietary software such as ms office thats like some one complaining that garage band doesn't work on windows.
@miasmablk Haha, you make me laugh. Your Wine is nothing but a joke: the most bug ridden obsolete piece of shit ever. First, as I had indicated, it does not run x64 (which are faster by the way), and 2nd, even if it did run the 32 variants, they will: 1) run slower due to the severe performance penalties 2) exhibit a multitude of bugs and problems.
From a professional point of view, neither is acceptable. Thus, your LiEnucks' 1% market share in a free market. Free market does not lie.
@miasmablk Why MS Office? Check the video description: 85%+ market share (used everywhere), which means it is the DE FACTO industry standard, and on top, as you've seen in this video, and watch?v=iz3ki4_i-AM, and watch?v=6XYzonem1nQ, MS Office is much superior than any "open source" GARBAGE.
OMG! I've tried open the file in Fedora 16 and gone crazy :S
BogusCandyman 2 days ago
Your test is very interesting, you seem to have stumbled on a severe openoffice performance bug indeed. Have you tried opening the file with openoffice in Windows? How does it compare? Have you waited for the file to finish opening?
I've tried your file on my Ubuntu 11.10 desktop (Athlon II 640) and it also took a long time to open in openoffice. However, most of the time I use gnumeric for such tasks, and I took a chance on it. Guess what: it took only 25 seconds to open your file!
patola123 2 weeks ago
@patola123 Gnumeric is really bad though, it'll render your Excel file useless.
watch?v=6XYzonem1nQ
That's why all businesses use MS Office.
xyz98742 2 weeks ago
Song?
Microfights 1 month ago
@Microfights Flaming June - BT
lienucksfails2 1 month ago
ferrari. I hate ferrari.
Streetking412 1 month ago
My test. Core2Duo 2.4ghz 4mbyte shared cache. 3gbyte ram, nvidia 9600gt 512ram 256-mbit bus. Linux Ubuntu 11.10 with newest libre office. Windows: Windows 7 with office 2010. each 5 columns with 500,000 rows with 2 columns product function formula.
calc paste took 1m 40 sec, excel 2010 paste 15 sec
cacl save took 1m 54 sec, excel 2010 save took 7 sec
calc open took 1m 30 sec, excel 2010 open took 10 sec
calc cpu usage 100% ram 500Mbyte, excel cpu usage 15% ram 125Mbyte
dalexandruz 3 months ago
I tried this on newest libre calc in ubuntu 11.10 and it took me 1 minute and half to paste to 500,000 rows with formulas with 5 columns. I closed it and opened it and it took 1 minute and 40 minutes in ods file format. In windows 7 excel 2010 it took me 3 seconds to paste to 500,000 cells with formulas and 5 columns, 4 seconds to save. and 5 seconds to open it.
But Ubuntu 11.10, libre office used 100% cpu resources 500Mbyte and froze while excel 2010 used 5% cpu and 125Mbyte ram.
dalexandruz 3 months ago
@dalexandruz Open Office is slow and a resource hog due to the java dependency. Java will always be slow to execute AND eat a lot of resources (never liked Java). No point using that infernal crap, even updating that shit is useless since they expect you to download a 150 MB package every time. Soon there will be a new alternative to both Libre and Open Office written for compatability and speed.
MDxm3000 1 month ago
@MDxm3000 Well said.
lienucksfails2 1 month ago
@MDxm3000 Java is also a lot slower on Lunix than Windows, check out my new video:
watch?v=pXOMw9bQoPU
lienucksfails2 1 month ago
@lienucksfails2 Oracle/Sun Java is slow on Linux yes, Openjava can (if set up correct) perform as good as their version on the other hand.
MDxm3000 1 month ago
@MDxm3000 I set up Openjava correctly and it's even slower on my system than Sun Java.
Java is just horrendous on Lunix, in general.
lienucksfails2 1 month ago
@lienucksfails2 On Mint that is, not Linux. Linux is just the Kernel much as the NTkernel is just the Windows kernel. You should really try out some other distro one of these days. It's getting slow as you can see. However, BSD owns everything. ;)
MDxm3000 1 month ago
The desperation of the Windows user to eliminate Linux is amazing. Here we find a video comparing Excel, a MS product made 4 a MS product to an open source product that`s included with Linux, then proudly proclaims victory. Really, Really ? Is that the best you can do? Here is a challenge. Compare real Linux components to MS equals. I would make suggestions, but i know it will Never
Ever happen, but the effort is truly comical. Meanwhile i will remain a Linux user. ?
Cameron9242008 3 months ago
@Cameron9242008 This video proves that Open Source products are vastly inferior in quality and performance, mainly due to the limited funded that usually comes with such projects.
The funding dries up and you're left with a semi-working (half assed) off suit such as Open Office in this case that struggles to open up a file that Excel opens up in mere seconds.
Kdenlive/Openshot/Cinderall (video editors) are the same thing = useless. What is stopping you from using MS Office (for free)?
xyz98742 3 months ago
what about open office and microsoft office on the same windows computer?
TheEgg185 4 months ago
@TheEgg185
watch?v=iz3ki4_i-AM
lienucksfails2 4 months ago
Linux is trying... still trying to be a good OS for personal computers. It will take a while though... What linux shines at are servers. Server market share for Linux is about 60%. So... You may not like linux as your personal computer's OS, but seriously, do not want Google to use Windows...
Do not expect the "linux for admins, windows for users" rule to break any time soon.
Dolkarr 4 months ago
Now store these 500,000 rows in a database (like any sensible person would) and see which platform is faster. Mysql running on linux or MS Sql Sever running on windows.
FeinesFabi 5 months ago
@FeinesFabi Nah, retard. The point of this video: open source free spreadsheet programs are a pile of worthless garbage.
Even opening up a sheet with 10,000 rows would take 10x more time on LiEnucks.
xyz98742 5 months ago
oh my god. you are playing my favorite artist of all time to this video, BT!!! BRIAN FREAKIN TRANSEAU!!!!!! I FREAKING LOVE YOU!!!!
milkysounds109 6 months ago
@milkysounds109 Thanks :D
lienucksfails2 6 months ago
oh my god. you are playing my favorite artist of all time to this video, BT!!! BRIAN FREAKIN TRANSEAU!!!!!! I FREAKING LOVE YOU!!!!
milkysounds109 6 months ago
Noob test - he plays with linux and use all efects while it was loading and with windows he only watch to open. And format - BIG FAIL!
pe1eterek 7 months ago
@pe1eterek Dumb animal. Download the file yourself and test it. Many have tried, but all failed.
Oh, and by the way, the XLS/XLSX format is the global format. 85%+ market share. Read the video description, get a clue, ignorant fool.
xyz98742 7 months ago
@xyz98742 you so just owned him! props =)
milkysounds109 6 months ago
Interesting video. As a linux fan, I have to admit that Openoffice and Libreoffice are experiencing difficulties while working with .xlsx format. However, still it is not the default format that they use ;).
SvGny 7 months ago
@SvGny Excel is faster at opening Openoffice and Libreoffice's own formats. Owned.
xyz98742 7 months ago
WHAT the fuck is XLSX????! You are supposed to open OpenOffice or LibreOffice spreadsheet, not Excel on Linux machine!
You could test opening OpenOffice/LibreOffice document on Windows machine with same "success". Oh, wait, it does not open at all, it fails. Speaking about IEEE document interchange standard - ODF. Windows - fail.
lin545 7 months ago
@lin545 If you don't know what XLSX is, then you're the most retarded fool around here. Get a clue.
MS Office: 85% market share.
xyz98742 7 months ago
before u say anything stupid, i mean the commenters y not try it urself?
VBEducation1 7 months ago
go windows! Yyyyyeeeaaahhh!
VBEducation1 7 months ago
What's the song name?
jakash3 8 months ago
@heavyal Read the video description. This is a problem with LiEnucks.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 The problem occurs whether you attempt to open the sheet in linux or windows. The application is at fault here, not the OS. Though from looking at the comments here I realize that this one will be ignored as well and/or removed. Such is the way with those who show only cowardice in the face of reason.
heavyal 8 months ago
@heavyal The problem is with LiEnucks: doesn't run software. For example: Office 2010.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 @xyz98742 The Wine application DB shows it with a Bronze rating, indicating that it does work, albeit not to the standards one would expect from the platform it was intended. Also, crossover is expecting to support it within the year. Certainly these types of applications do not function as well as they would on their native platform, but it is amazing none-the-less that they work at all given that they were never written to work on the Linux platform.
heavyal 8 months ago
@heavyal Wrong again. That's the 32-bit version of Office 2010. I bought and use the 64-bit version, which is rated garbage on Wine, direct quote from their website:
"Garbage as the Installation crashes just before the installation could begin"
In this video, I use the x64 version of MS Office.
Nonetheless, the x32 version of Office 2010, still crashes and runs buggy on Wine.
Wine = Joke
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 My mistake, I didn't notice that you were comparing the 64 bit versions. So yes, if someone really needs the 64 bit version of Office 2010 they would be better off using Windows. Either that or install it in a virtual machine which is what I do for applications that simply won't run under Linux. Being a multi-platform programmer myself, I actually use several virtual machines, a Win7, WinXP, and a Win2000 box for legacy apps.
heavyal 8 months ago
@heavyal Cool. The rest of the world will stick to Windows 7: everything works.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 Haha, tell my company that. We've been trying to get them to upgrade from XP for over a year now! Tonight they lost a document due to user error - I would have given my left arm to have had Windows 7's built in document recovery features!
heavyal 8 months ago
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luckyglasspig 8 months ago
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luckyglasspig 8 months ago
watch?v=VahSA0frPp8
owned again... Yes, linux can and will run windows programs.. Sorry, but maybe you could do some research before writing something stupid. For someone who runs linux , you don't know a damn thing about it.
luckyglasspig 8 months ago
@xyz98742 No, its the program. Openoffice for windows doesn't open up the spread sheet either. So, does that mean windows 7 sucks?
luckyglasspig 8 months ago
@luckyglasspig It just means one thing: LiEnucks sucks. It doesn't run MS Office 2010 x64.
FUCKEDduckLOL 8 months ago
Linux is only good is all you do is edit basic text files.
Aside from that no user should ever use it.
livinglegend1187 8 months ago
@livinglegend1187 LOL. That's 100% true. LiEnucks is a useless piece of shit.
watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 Well thats strange, considering I'm running peppermint os on my laptop right now.
MultiJamala 8 months ago
@MultiJamala Nope.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@pyropres LOOOOL NERD
xyz98742 8 months ago
@duckISaRETARD Lol, its the opposite for me - only Ubuntu and other ubuntu-based distro support my wireless card :(.
MultiJamala 8 months ago
@MultiJamala LOL. You must be suffering some sort of a delusion. Only Windows supports all WiFi cards.
Learn to handle valid criticism of LiEnucks.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 What I said above still applies, Linux sucks in the PC market share, but in other markets Linux is dominant.
"ANNNDD... how many people do you think are going to end up using a super computer" Well, not a lot, but who is going to connect to websites such as Google and Amazon, whose servers run Linux. :)
Cool videos by the way.
MultiJamala 8 months ago
@MultiJamala Epic videos are epic. As for Linux, I've tried Ubuntu 10.10 but my WiFi didn't work out of the box. I have a broadcom card.
duckISaRETARD 8 months ago
@xzy98742 Yes, 1% market share on the desktop, correct.
Servers? Amazon, Google etc servers run linux.
Super computers? I think its 7/10 of supercomputers run linux.
Mobile devices? Android anybody?
just saying :)
MultiJamala 8 months ago
@MultiJamala ANNNDD...how many people do you think are ever going to end up using a super computer, etc? Just saying. Not that many.
Personal computers is what EVERYONE uses: and Windows dominates it. In other words: anyone using a computer 9/10 times will be on Windows. :)
xyz98742 8 months ago
@pyropres Haha, dumb nerd. So you've only had a one month experience with LiEnucks? Use it for 2-3 years, then you'll realize how wrong you were.
You'll realize that you just wasted your time trying out LiEnucks. Nothing works on it.
MrSataGYPSYpitiful 8 months ago
wow, the lamer deleted my video response. What a looser. Linux doesn't fail but the user LIEnucksfails2 is. What a tool haha. It's okay, my video is still up. You are still wrong. And you are doing all this for nothing. Linux is used more widely then windows is.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 I've evaluated your "video response" and had to label it as a "nerd raging". It did not qualify.
MrSataGYPSYpitiful 8 months ago
@pyropres LOL. Why are you so afraid? Download Windows 7 for free and try it out for yourself.
MS Office 30 day trial is good enough to experience its superiority. But then again, you're just a dumb nerd.
FRANKIEtheFAG 8 months ago
@pyropres Who cares. Millions use it for free. That's probably the worst excuse that you could come up to not use it. No one's stopping you, you know :)
LiENucks = Free = Windows
Nope. MS Office gives you 30 day trial (legal). Then you can just renew by reinstalling Windows :)
Legal and free :)
Oh, LOL, you are seriously an incompetent fool. Never heard of MSE? Best free anti-virus around (by Microsoft). Owned.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@pyropres
Windows is free.
Antivirus is free.
MS Office is free.
What is stopping you now?
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 Windows 7 is not Free. but you can "Steal it" and deal with the failing update system after you crack it. MS office is also not free. But you can also "STEAL" that. As for anti virus, lets just slap in something else that slows the computer down and take up space. You spoke of "The success of and OS" like it meant something. Every time windows is "Stolen" MS looses $. That doesn't sound too successful to me. Linux is free. And it is a complete success to what it was meant to be.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 LiEnucks is a success? LOL. 1% market share after 20 years. Pathetic.
As for "pirating" Windows 7, as long as you do it to try it out for a month or something, buy it if you like it.
Not expensive: $29 for Home Premium *must be a student though* LOL.
MrSataGYPSYpitiful 8 months ago
@MrSataGYPSYpitiful what market? The home computer market? What about business computing market. Linux is on 95% of all main frames. It's on most mobile phones. It's on hdtv's. It's on routers. The server YouTube is on is Linux. Your using it right now. There are probably 5 times more devices in this world that use Linux then Windows. Period. Not to mention Linux is not about making money, and Linus started writing it out of necessity and just for fun. I'd say its pretty successful.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 *Sigh*... LiEnucks has a 1% market share on the personal computer market. Anything else = user doesn't interact with. LiEnucks is a good work horse I suppose, but not something that you wanted to work on.
Try editing a professional level movie on LiEnucks. Oh what is that? No software? Yup, thought as much. Try playing the latest games flawlessly and natively? Oh what is that? No games. Thought as much.
1% market share after 20 years. 1991-2011.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@MrSataGYPSYpitiful okay that's nice. I'm not a student. Also, when you download Windows and use it for 30 days, that's not free. That's a trial. Hardly convinent. I can down load Linux when ever I want, and I can use it for as long as I want. How many troll screen names do you have? You said you had 8 certs? Heh, only certs you have are the ones with retsin. And they still arn't helping your bad breath. Your stinking up YouTube.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 What do you use LiEnucks for as a personal computing OS? Surfing the web? Thought as much. It's not for work, editing content, or gaming. It sucks.
I never said I have 8 certs you moron. Stop confusing me with your mom. LOL.
xyz98742 8 months ago
Also, I don't know about "LIEnucks" but Linux is a success. Most people running Windows. Can't even watch this video or read these comments because they get so many pop UPS they get a blue screen before the page loads.Linux on the other hand will not get a blue screen and is not vulnerable to malicious software that plagues Windows. Not to mention all the down time for defrag and patching. My win 7 machine never stops updating. I have to re boot it several times a day for updates.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 A failure. 20 years and still at a 1% market share. I am using Windows 7 now on Chrome 12, no virus since I got it, haven't rebooted in a month or so, works flawlessly and amazing.
Have you tried Shitbuntu 11.04 with that bug ridden fucked up Unity Interface? Yup, that's what I am talking about: half assed bug ridden piece of shit SOFTWARE that doesn't work at all.
xyz98742 8 months ago
Calligra-Table does not open this file. Good work, now I can send them a bug report to fix this! :D
MDxm3000 8 months ago
@MDxm3000 LOL. Nice. Um, try LibreOffice.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 Its not an issue of OS's its an issue with not only open office, but the file as well check the reply video. I hold 8 certifications. dumbass.
z0m813p4n1c 8 months ago
Ha, you've been proven as a fake. Go play with your UAC and virus scanners. :)
z0m813p4n1c 8 months ago
@z0m813p4n1c LOL, can't handle the truth, dumbass?
If you must remain in denial, at least try downloading the file yourself and try it out. You'll see that MS Office is much, much faster :)
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 Check the video response for you by dr07828. I hold 8 certifications, so i'm pretty confident that i'm not a dumbass and know a little bit more about this than you.
z0m813p4n1c 8 months ago
@z0m813p4n1c LOL. The fail video? The idiot didn't even have MS Office running on Windows 7.
All he did: rant about OO sucking on Windows (and LiEnucks).
The only difference here is: software availability. Good software runs on Windows, doesn't on LiEnucks.
That's why Offices/Businesses use Windows. LiEnucks's 1% market share forever.
xyz98742 8 months ago
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z0m813p4n1c 8 months ago
Yes and so you prove my point. Because ext3 or ext4 writes continuously it will be slower then NTFS. My main point is you are comparing apples to oranges when you should be comparing apples to apples. Mount an NTFS file system in Linux. Sure you don't know how. I can message you with how too. You will see then that Linux can write faster then Windows 7 on NTFS. I has a Linux server that has been going for 3 years and it is less then 3 percent fragmented. So why do I need a defrag tool?
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 LOL?
Are you living under a rock or something?
watch?v=j_0gf_fsvLo
LiEnucks is not for WORK.
Oh, fragmentation? Guess what? LiEnucks can get FRAGMENTED VERY HEAVILY, check it out for yourself:
"The random write test show us that, in a heavy environment, all these Linux filesytems can become very fragmented."
Link: bit . ly / dGrrd1
xyz98742 8 months ago
@dr07828 Retard. I am not online 24/7, I'll be away tmr. So chillax.
xyz98742 8 months ago
I see you will not approve the video response. I don't blame you. Shows how much of a lie your video(s) is/are. You can just go ahead and take these down now. And you can close all of the fake accounts you have going. LOOSER lol.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 LOL, moron. I was away.
xyz98742 8 months ago
HEY EVERYONE
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dr07828 8 months ago
I happen to know linux writes faster then windows on NTFS. I have in the past had NTFS mounted on linux, but you wouldn't begin to even know how to do that because you are an end user with a hard on to put down linux for some reason. As for your comment about getting windows 7 for free, Sure you can Download it, but that is stealing. You don't have to steal to get linux for free. As well you don't have to worry about microsoft genuine advantage, or updating issue.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 Or you can get Windows 7 Home Premium for $29, or professional for $69 (students). Sure beats the heck out of getting a "free" garbage OS that nothing works on: gaming, software, hardware, etc.
Why doesn't LiEnucks still support iPods, iPhones, etc natively? 1% market share forever.
xyz98742 8 months ago
All of your videos are Bias and set up for linux to fail. they are not fair tests as well I do not see the machine(s) you are running the systems on. For all any one knows its 2 different machines. "Great stories". but you have no real proof. I am going to post some video responses. Lets see if you allow them. This video only proves one thing ,that Open office has an issue. Not linux. I have an older linux box running slackware that opens just fine ;)
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 LOL. Are you blind or something? My system specification are shown on other videos (StarCraft II) for example, open up your eyes and watch them.
All of the videos are 100% accurate and repeatable. I use the scientific method.
xyz98742 8 months ago
won't open on my windows 7 machine with a dual core. I see your other vids. They are stupid lol. You are comparing read and write speeds, when the file systems are completely different. ext3 writes contiguously and windows file systems like NTFS and fat write where ever the head is. So yeah, on a windows file system its going to go faster, but you have less fragmentation on ext3 with linux. stupid. If you run linux on NTFS it will be faster.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 LOL. Ext4, not Ext3. NTFS is faster.
LiEnucks does get fragmented (to a lesser extent). But do you know what the problem is with LiEnucks? There is no online defragmentation tool. LOL. How pathetic and sad.
xyz98742 8 months ago
LoL FAIL. My 64-bit windows machine running windows 7 cannot open it. Either in works spread sheet or excel lol. So much for what you are preaching lol. You go ahead with your crusade man, its a worthless waste of time. Just one thing please. name one reason you would need to have a spread sheet with 5 million rows? lol
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 LOL, cool story. Excel opens it in 15 seconds as shown in this video on 64-bit Windows 7.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@dr07828
5 million? LOL, 500000...... learn to read numbers, retard.
xyz98742 8 months ago
Gonna download it and look for a macro hidden in it..... I'm not stupid.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 ...How ironic. You're making yourself look stupid by being in denial. You do realize that anyone reading your comment can download the spreadsheet too and find out that it's just a clean file?
Why are you in so much denial anyway?
xyz98742 8 months ago
This isn't Linux vs. Windows; it's OpenOffice vs. Excel.
Just out of curiosity, why is the Linux system using ~50% CPU before the test even starts? (For that matter why is the Windows system using ~30% CPU before the test even starts?) If these tests are to be meaningful, they should be done without extra stuff going on in the background.
nonoitall 8 months ago
@nonoitall
*Sigh*....First of fall: Excel 2010 x64 doesn't run on LiEnucks. So there. That makes it a Windows vs. LiEnucks comparison.
Second, LiEnucks was using 50% CPU ( that's actually ~25%: dual cores) because...AHH..guess what? THE SCREEN was being recorded.
Look up what screencasting means on the internet.
So: LiEnucks using 25% because of screencasting, Windows using 30% for the same reason.
Advantage? LiEnucks. And yet it failed so miserably.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 Ah, you'd do well to mention the screencasting overhead in the video description. The lack of an Excel port for Linux does not magically make the test fair. ("So there!" ;-P) The fact that different office suites were used introduces a whole slew of variables that are completely unrelated to the underlying OS. If you want a semi-objective comparison of Windows and Linux, the logical course would be to use OO on Linux and OO on Windows.
nonoitall 8 months ago
@nonoitall LOL, excuse me. I didn't know that you were brainless. Do you lack common sense? How did you think the video was recorded, with such clarity, dumbass?
The lack of an Excel port for LiEnucks proves one point: no one uses it for office productivity.
Gaming? No games for LiEnucks. Multimedia? No iPod/iPhone/iPad + gaming accessories (logitech wheels) + poor Flash 10/HD video platform.
LiEnucks => garbage.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 Since you're now resorting to name-calling, ignoring facts and logical fallacies, I must conclude that you are not truly interested in an objective comparison. As such, I'll leave you to your trolling. Peace.
nonoitall 8 months ago
@nonoitall LOL. Good riddens. A dumbass like you who did not even have the common sense to realize that this video was screencasted belongs in a mental asylum. So long, fucktard.
xyz98742 8 months ago
Just curiosity. I don't see how open office sucking at opening a spreadsheet means Linux fails. Open office fails for sure. It is apparent to me that if what you need from a computer is to be able to open excel spread sheets with over 5 million rows Linux is out. I'm sure if some one wrote some kind of support package for this sort of thing the problem would be solved. As it is Linux is a super powerful os that has more then 1 use and far exceeds Windows as a server.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 ....500,000 is 5 million to you? *facepalm*.....
Read the video description. OO has a 15-20% market share (and thus is the #1 office suite on LiEnucks). This video exposes how much it sucks.
OK sure, so LiEnucks is not optimal for spreadsheets, how about you watch the other videos?
user/lienucksfails2
LiEnucks sucks at: flash 10, hd videos, html5, file transfer, gaming, java, etc.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 I am not going to waste my time watching your bias video's. I have seen plenty of real life proof of linux being a superior OS in many ways. not to mention plenty of videos on youtube of linux beating windows 7 at a lot of things. 1. you use one distro of linux. 2. I don't see the physical machine or any proof it's the same machine. 3. who knows how you compiled the kernel. Change a few things and yes it will suck at a lot of things. 4.you have it out for linux for some reason.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828
*sigh*....
Did you even read the video description? If you really think that this test wasn't done on the same machine, or that the LiEnucks kernel was re-compiled or whatever, then just download the spreadsheet yourself (link is in the description) and try it out yourself.
What is there to lose?
I am offering you complete transparency. Download the file and test it out by yourself. Cool?
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 Let me ask you. What kind of phone do you have? Droid? Iphone, both based off of linux. Droid is linux, iphone, and Mac of that matter are both built on BSD linux. Don't have a smart phone? chances are what ever phone you have is a *nix. How bout digital cable, satellite or a Tivo? How bout your HDTV? All running some form of embeded *nix. What kind of router are you using? most run a *nix, in fact, most of the networks in the world have routers and switches running *nix's.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828
Phone: Windows Phone 7
Cable: Going to get the Xbox Live TV (coming out soon)
HDTV: Um, not sure.
But neither my phone nor cable have anything to do with LiEnucks. LOL.
xyz98742 8 months ago
@xyz98742 How much does windows 7 cost? how about linux? Hum.... You know what, I like linux, but I also like windows, and I like mac. Every one of those OS has their pro's and cons. Yo, most of the web servers in the world run linux. you must work for microsoft or something. have fun. your wrong.
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828
Windows 7 is free (millions torrent it, what is stopping you). You can't really use "how much does it cost" argument for a software (torrenting is always an option).
But then again, I got my Windows 7 Home Premium for $29. LOL. Sure beats getting a "Free" bug ridden junk that nothing works on.
xyz98742 8 months ago
is this on the same machine ? or 2 different machines?
dr07828 8 months ago
@dr07828 Same machine. Why do you ask?
xyz98742 8 months ago
Fake as hell. Windoze noob.
z0m813p4n1c 9 months ago
@z0m813p4n1c LOL. I love it when fanboys like you sink into denial. Guess what though? Link to download the spreadsheet tested in this video is in the description.
Have fun trying it out yourself (and realizing that you were in denial). :)
LiEnucksFAILS 9 months ago
Wtf are you running Linux on, a commodore 64 ( that's my bet)
Defstryker 9 months ago
@Defstryker LOL, dude, LiEnucks is running on the same computer as Windows 7.
The only difference is that: It sucks at spreadsheets.
Link to download the file is in the video description. Test it out yourself :)
LiEnucksFAILS 9 months ago
"Q: This is bullshit! Why are you comparing MS Office to OpenOffice?
A: Wrong. This is a Windows vs. LiEnucks comparison. "
answer = pure stupidity
sonay1986 9 months ago
@sonay1986
Answer = bit . ly / 2azJMs (remove spaces)
LiEnucksFAILS 9 months ago
And what communication between Linux and Windows in it? Any. It Openoffice vs MS Office. But here on many parameters against both editors wins Libreoffice
ghostdmn 9 months ago
@ghostdmn MS Office 2010 x64 does not run on LiEnucks.
No one uses LibreOffice. OO has 15% market share => people stuck with very slow software.
LiEnucksFAILS 9 months ago
Different files (started in Linux is broken), different text editors... So fake
ghostdmn 9 months ago
@ghostdmn Haha, nothing but a baseless allegation. I'll tell you what though: Link to download the spreadsheet is in the description.
Try it out for yourself: in OpenOffice and MS Office.
LiEnucksFAILS 9 months ago
Fake.
ghostdmn 9 months ago
alright that sucks in linux , but I nver experienced it ;)
belgiumarthur 9 months ago
@belgiumarthur You just experienced it (by watching this video).
LiEnucksFAILS 9 months ago
The both have their pros and cons. You can not base you OS/Application choice on one point. When you move to the Enterprise Networks, you will see the the majority of servers are Linux OS, but Windows has the Enterprise Desktop. The Reason that Linux servers are used over windows is that they are more reliable in mission critical networks, where as a Windows Server 2008 R2 is prone to more crashes. IMO I use Linux because it makes my job as a network engineer easier.
carlosthegreatcom 9 months ago
@carlosthegreatcom LiEnucks sucks you idiot: 1% market share for 20+ years despite being free.
If not, provide a logical explanation as to why it has such a low market share.
LiEnucksFAILS 9 months ago
@LiEnucksFAILS 2% market share!
jonathanmoerman 9 months ago
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jonathanmoerman 9 months ago
Sure, converting from Excel to OpenOffice takes a while. How long does it take to convert an OpenOffice spreadsheet to Excel?
flash3780 10 months ago
@flash3780 Excel is 100x faster at everything. Even at converting OpenOffice spreadsheet as I have shown in my other videos.
Do you understand? Excel is even faster at opening OO's OWN spreadsheet.
Watch for yourself:
watch?v=iz3ki4_i-AM
LiEnucksFAILS 10 months ago
Haha, I posted this on my clan site and this linux moron got butthurt.
HaloSpartanG13 10 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 Haha, good work mate :)
LiEnucksFAILS 10 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 Which website is it by the way?
LiEnucksFAILS 10 months ago
@LiEnucksFAILS Smgclan.com.
Look in the thread "Rape Sandwich". Some apple fanboy talks about how macs are good. Then some linux kid talks how it's good, then admits he uses windows.
Oh, and I left that clan anyway.
HaloSpartanG13 10 months ago
I still prefer Linux over windows because I feel way less stressed about the Drm issue lol. Software more free and , I can download the Os on as many computers As I want. now I cant really defend the open spread sheet. I never used it lol. their are alot of trade offs from picking Linux over Windows. I never had a problem converting Open office to word office at school before. I am just speaking out of personal experience here that varies for person to person.
wooka64 10 months ago
@wooka64 What DRM issues are you talking about? You can install Windows as many times as you want on the same computer or a different computer (just need to deactivate it on the previous computer).
If you mean: why can't I install a single copy of Windows on multiple computers: buy more licences (discounted heavily).
Since I am a student, I got my Windows 7 x64 Home Premium for $29. Certainly beats getting garbage "free" software that fails at everything.
LiEnucksFAILS 10 months ago
@wooka64 By fail I mean: it does not run games, or the software that I work with: MS Office 2010 x64, Photoshop CS5 x64 :) etc.
What a failure.
LiEnucksFAILS 10 months ago
I never had any problems with open office that alot of people seem to have. A word document program is a word document program who cares. I prefer open office because I don't have to agree with the stupid license. for all those that hate on open source, I hope your not praising Python the programing language at the same time LOL. I don't care if the products are open or close as long as I am not being forced to use a drm program. I thank God for open source because now I have a choice.
wooka64 10 months ago
I never had any problems using open office that some people seem to have. it works just fine. for all those that say open source sucks they Python the programing language must suck because its open source lol. I personal don't have a problem with windows ,but I like I said before I rather be Drm Free then use windows drm plaged stuff. In the end, If I want some thing really cool for linux I got to learn to make it myself. that's not a problem that's kind of cool.
wooka64 10 months ago
@wooka64 DRM is not Windows related, you ignorant fool. Also, OO sucks, check all the videos on my channel, including the one in which OO is slower at opening up its own file format ODS than excel:
watch?v=iz3ki4_i-AM
And OO has ZERO backward compatibility with XLS/XLSX
watch?v=6XYzonem1nQ
LiEnucksFAILS 10 months ago
@LiEnucksFAILS Ok I checked some of your videos I have two question for you. are you actually running Linux or are you emulation it? of Course Flash is going to work better for windows because its logical. If you pay someone money to do a job, you end up with a better product. like I said before, I don't agree with the Drm policy of the company making the software. I personally think windows the Os would be better, if I could install it as many times as I want on my machine.
wooka64 10 months ago
@wooka64
....Have you paid attention to the videos? Both Operating systems have a base amount of RAM of 3 GB, hence, proving that LiEnucks is not emulated, it runs natively. Way to go and make a fool out of yourself.
Of course, that's the whole point: free stuff sucks *cough cough* LiEnucks.
LiEnucksFAILS 10 months ago
@LiEnucksFAILS I know that I can run open-source programs on windows believe me I do run them on my windows xp machine :). according to your data and I believe it, that windows is a more efficient Os. That is if you the user can keep the system clean of viruses. That not always an easy task because of hackers. I lost two windows machines due to hackers and later I put Linux on them. Personally I glade your making the videos because the Linux has a monopoly of the Linux vs windows.
wooka64 10 months ago
@wooka64 Not only that, Windows is more power efficient, it consumes 65% less power than LiEnucks on netbooks, have a look yourself:
bit . ly/fvBxJk
So what do we have here? An power hungry inferior OS performance-wise. Double trade off.
LiEnucksFAILS 10 months ago
top500.org
Operating system Family Count Share % Rmax Sum (GF) Rpeak Sum (GF) Processor Sum
Linux 459 91.80 % 38587202 58399775 5146933
Windows 5 1.00 % 412590 509350 59072
josedavidforero 10 months ago
@josedavidforero What are you trying to say? You do realize that
1) Crunching numbers 24/7 means nothing
2) Only a handful of people will ever get to use a supercomputer
3) Personal computers is what we can customize, play with, and work with on daily basis. LiEnucks: 1% market share => no one uses it.
LiEnucksFAILS 10 months ago
ooo is a valid competence. is well for me. i don't use 500.000 rows in my work ??? mysql is better for this. linux never hang, no virus, is perfect.
josedavidforero 10 months ago
@josedavidforero You better think again, troll:
watch?v=iz3ki4_i-AM
watch?v=6XYzonem1nQ
OO is piece of shit.
LiEnucksFAILS 10 months ago
w7> the unique antivirus with operating system included.
josedavidforero 10 months ago
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kurrator2 10 months ago
Hey everyone!
Have a look at the FAQ in the video description before commenting!
lienucksfails2 10 months ago
I like what your doing, and agree. However, this test is a bit skewed, is there an .ods of that spreadsheet available? Would be interesting to see native format vs. native format.
P.S. keep up the great work. Subscribed.
RatRob69 11 months ago
@RatRob69 Yup :)
Native format vs. Native format: watch?v=iz3ki4_i-AM
LiEnucksFAILS 11 months ago
I like what your doing, and agree. However, this test is a bit skewed. is there an .ods of that spreadsheet available. Would be interesting to see native format vs. native format.
P.S. keep up the great work. Subscribed.
RatRob69 11 months ago
I like what your doing, and agree. However, this test is a bit skewed. is there an .ods of that spreadsheet available. Would be interesting to see native format vs. native format.
RatRob69 11 months ago
it's not really fair compairison when the spreadsheet you are using is .xlsx which has to be converted by OO to be even read.
miasmablk 11 months ago
@miasmablk Is this a better comparison? watch?v=iz3ki4_i-AM
Excel and OO open up an ODS file (native to OO)
LiEnucksFAILS 11 months ago
@LiEnucksFAILS any of these comparisons are sort of redundant seeing as how this video illustrates "failure" on the part of open office which has nothing to do with Linux. it's merely a CROSS PLATFORM open source project (which by the way is being abandoned and replaced by libreoffice).
miasmablk 11 months ago
@miasmablk Not really, it shows that:
Open source = garbage
LiEnucks = Open source
And secondly, and MORE importantly, it shows that LiEnucks does not RUN good software (Office 2010 x64 does not run on LiENucks, neither does a multitude of other programs: AutoCAD, Photoshop, Sony Vegas, Final Cut, iTunes, etc).
LiEnucks = stick to surfing the web.
LiEnucksFAILS 11 months ago
@LiEnucksFAILS you are aware of course that every operating system REQUIRES open source code to run including Microsoft Windows. and yes linux can run all of those programs utilizing WINE
miasmablk 11 months ago
@miasmablk I knew that you'd show your ignorance to the world by mentioning WINE. That is the SAME excuse that all LiEnucks fanboys use as a last resort for any argument. But I hate to break it to ya: you ARE wrong.
Office 2010 x64, Photoshop CS5 x64, AutoCAD 2011 x64, and most games such as GTA IV, WOW, etc
DO NOT RUN ON LiENUCKS (whether it be the shitty bug ridden WiNE as you mentioned or anything else).
Way to go and make a fool out of yourself, moron.
LiEnucksFAILS 11 months ago
oh excuse me i must have missed the x64 tag on your ridiculous loaded premise. the fact is that wine does support these programs in x86, additionally why should the owness be on linux to support proprietary software such as ms office thats like some one complaining that garage band doesn't work on windows.
miasmablk 11 months ago
@miasmablk Haha, you make me laugh. Your Wine is nothing but a joke: the most bug ridden obsolete piece of shit ever. First, as I had indicated, it does not run x64 (which are faster by the way), and 2nd, even if it did run the 32 variants, they will: 1) run slower due to the severe performance penalties 2) exhibit a multitude of bugs and problems.
From a professional point of view, neither is acceptable. Thus, your LiEnucks' 1% market share in a free market. Free market does not lie.
LiEnucksFAILS 11 months ago
@miasmablk Why MS Office? Check the video description: 85%+ market share (used everywhere), which means it is the DE FACTO industry standard, and on top, as you've seen in this video, and watch?v=iz3ki4_i-AM, and watch?v=6XYzonem1nQ, MS Office is much superior than any "open source" GARBAGE.
LiEnucksFAILS 11 months ago
@LiEnucksFAILS you clearly have no idea what y